Because, quite frankly, it’s beginning to get very, very hard to tell the difference between the Loony Left and, say, Ahmadinejad (via LC & IB Ace):

Thus spake Puffington Host poster Russell “Mahdi” Shaw:

I hope and pray we don’t get hit again, like we did on September 11. Even one life lost to the violence of terrorism is too much.

“Too much”, but obviously not “enough to warrant fighting back”, as has become all too clear from listening to the Fifth Column’s wailing and moaning over the last five years.

If I somehow knew an attack was coming, I wouldn’t pause for a second to report it in order to prevent it from occuring.

You know, the fact that the deranged sickopath even feels that he has to point this out tells us that we’ve got a huge “BUT” coming, a “but” that immediately negates anything he’s said up ’till now. And, sure enough:

But on the other hand, I remind myself that without the ultimate sacrifice paid by 400,000 U.S. soldiers in World War II, tyranny could well have an iron grip on the world, and even on this nation.

Indeed. Of course, those 400,000 died fighting the tyrants, which isn’t what Shaw has in mind. Oh no, he wants innocent civilians to die so that the domestic “tyrants” can be defeated.

We told you he was insane.

If the Nazis had prevailed, tens, if not hundreds of millions more would have been killed.

That realization has led my brain to launch a political calculus 180 degrees removed from my pacifist-inclined leanings. An entirely hypothetical yet realpolitik calculus that is ugly, and cold-hearted but must be posited:

Prepare for liberal meltdown in 5…4…3…2…1…

This is a type of calculus that Pentagon war games planners and political consultants do all the time- a combination of what-if actions and consequences that are unpleasant to consider but are in the realm of plausibility.

Sure they do. They sit around all day long pondering just how many million American civilians they have to murder to defeat Islamofascism or, in your “reality-based world”, how many times they have to bring down the Twin Towers with controlled demolitions while abducting the passengers from the fictional planes and sending them off to be used as guinea pigs by our Alien Illuminati Overlords at Area 51.

At this point in time, it is painfully obvious that the only question a physician needs to ask before prescribing Thorazine is “did you vote Democrat in the last election?”

What if another terror attack just before this fall’s elections could save many thousand-times the lives lost?

I start from the premise that there is already a substantial portion of the electorate that tends to vote GOP because they feel that Bush has “kept us safe,” and that the Republicans do a better job combating terrorism.

“So, clearly, in order to defeat the Adolf Hitlers in the GOP, we have to prove that we’re not any safer, and what better way to do so than to kill off a half a million of our own countrymen?”

If the FBI aren’t already crawling around so far up the ass of this psychotic terrorist wannabe that they qualify as internal organs, then I want the whole sorry lot of them fired on the spot for incompetence.

If an attack occurred just before the elections, I have to think that at least a few of the voters who persist in this “Bush has kept us safe” thinking would realize the fallacy they have been under.

And if the terrorists can’t pull it off themselves (they’re only a “fantasy”, after all, “thought up from whole cloth by the BusHitler Administration”), then perhaps you’re thinking about lending them a hand, perhaps?

Listen, you may very well just be a clinically insane nutball three nervous breakdowns away from selling pencils on the nearest streetcorner while mumbling incoherently about the Freemasons and the Martians controlling your bowel movements, but in this day and age we can’t really afford to take any chances, can we?

And before anybody has a First Amendment Conniption Fit, let me be very clear here: I’m NOT suggesting throwing him in jail for exercising his right to be a vile, psychotic scuzzball in public. What I AM suggesting is that I find his enthusiasm regarding successful terror attacks in order to sway an election sufficiently troubling that I, were I in charge, would most definitely keep a very close eye on him and his activities.

There is nothing more dangerous than the combination of a True Believer, motive and opportunity. Apart, they’re just an annoyance and, at worst, justification for a severe beating if they’re sufficiently obnoxious to spout their bile in the presence of a sane person. But put the three together…

After all, terrorists only have to “get lucky” ONCE.

If 5% of the “he’s kept us safe” revise their thinking enough to vote Democrat, well, then, the Dems could recapture the House and the Senate and be in a position to:

Block the next Supreme Court appointment, one which would surely result in the overturning of Roe and the death of hundreds if not thousands of women from abortion-prohibiting states at the hands of back-alley abortionists;

Nevermind that neither hundreds nor thousands of women died at the hands of back-alley abortionists back when abortion was illegal, but who’s counting? It’s not like it isn’t worth sacrificing a few hundred thousand innocent civilians for, right Mr Shaw?

You disgusting, vile, pus-filled chancre on the scrotum of humanity.

Be in a position to elevate the party’s chances for a regime change in 2008. A regime change that would:

Save hundreds of thousands of American lives by enacting universal health care;

“Terrorism For Universal HillaryCare!”

Go with that slogan, you fat, fetid fuckball, I double-fucking dog dare you.

Save untold numbers of lives by pushing for cleaner air standards that would greatly reduce heart and lung diseases;

“…the men, women and children coughing up, quite literally, their lungs in the radioactive ruins of New York would thank us for it!”

More enthusiastically address the need for mass transit, the greater availability of which would surely cut highway deaths;

“Nuke Los Angeles so we can have public transportation!”

Enact meaningful gun control legislation that would reduce crime and cut fatalities by thousands a year;

Of course, gun control legislation has never done anything of the sort, quite the opposite as a matter of fact, but it’d be worth spreading Ebola in Chicago just to prove the point again, wouldn’t it, Shaw?

Fund stem cell research that could result in cures saving millions of lives;

In spite of the fact that embryonic stem cell research so far has led to absolutely nothing but, what the Hell? Let’s bury Cleveland under a cloud of Sarin just so John Edwards can make the lame walk again!

Boost the minimum wage, helping to cut down on poverty which helps spawn violent crime and the deaths that spring from those acts;

It wouldn’t be necessary. Once your friends the terrorists are done turning a handful of major American cities radioactive, the labor supply will be so low that the minimum wage will automatically go up. Supply and demand and all that. That’s what you learn in the first semester of school. If you attend one, that is, which you obviously never did.

Be less inclined to launch foolish wars, absence of which would save thousands of soldiers’ lives- and quite likely moderate the likelihood of further terror acts.

After all, all of our inactivity prior to 9/11 was quite successful in bringing us — 9/11.

“The best way to defeat terrorism is to let the terrorists win!”

I am not proud of myself for even considering the notion that another terror attack that costs even one American life could ever be considered anything else but evil and hurtful.


And I know that when I weigh the possibility that such an attack- that might, say, kill 100- would prevent hundreds of thousands of Americans from dying who otherwise would- I am exhibiting a calculating cold heart diametrically opposed to everything I stand for as a human being.

You aren’t one, so how can you claim to stand for anything as one?

But I’m glad to know that you’ve now decided that it’ll “only” take the murder of 100 of your fellow citizens to achieve your “noble” goal. Let’s just hope that the terrorists whose success you’re praying for agree with you.

A human being, who, just so you know, is opposed to most wars and to capital punishment.

Unless, of course, we’re talking about wars and deaths bringing about a result that you desperately want, but can’t bring about by democratic means. Then you’re perfectly OK with it.

But in light of the very real potential of the next two American elections to solidify our growing American persona as a warlike, polluter-friendly nation with repressive domestic tendencies and inadequate health care for so many tens of millions, let me ask you this.

We defend ourselves when attacked, we pollute less than almost any other nation on the planet, we have a First Amendment guaranteeing seditionist, treasonous, hate-filled sacks of shit like yourself the right to spew as you want without fear of being arrested and our healthcare is the best on the planet, even for those without medical insurance, and for all of this you want the terrorists to successfully attack us again?

Can we question your patriotism now?

Even if only from the standpoint of a purely intellectual exercise in alternative future history:

Alright. Ask away, you sick, sick bastard.

If you knew us getting hit again would launch a chain of transformative, cascading events that would enable a better nation where millions who would have died will live longer, would such a calculus have any moral validity?

Any at all?

You want an answer, Dr Mengele?

OK. Here goes:

Blindfold or no blindfold?

Oak or pine?

16 Responses to “Can We Question Their Patriotism NOW?”
  1. Unregistered Comment by Azygos UNITED STATES

    Block the next Supreme Court appointment, one which would surely result in the overturning of Roe and the death of hundreds if not thousands of women from abortion-prohibiting states at the hands of back-alley abortionists;

    What about the millions of murdered babies as a result of abortion? Back to holding diametrically opposed ideas at the same time I guess.

  2. LC HJ Caveman82952 Comment by LC HJ Caveman82952 UNITED STATES

    These remain the people I would fight, preferring death to surrender. Preferably theirs……I brook NO compromise on the second amendment. These putrid sucksacks deserve nothing but the hell they would create. Inferior beings, one and all. Brave men prefer death to slavery. But of what possible interest could a conversation between men be to such as these?

  3. Unregistered Pingback by The Real Ugly » Blog Archive » Who is Russel Shaw and what the hell is he thinking? UNITED STATES

    […] Huh? What does a terrorist attack have to do with anything this nutjob just mentioned? Justifiably Right wing blogs are tearing him, the Huffington post, the “netroots” and Democrats in general apart. […]

  4. Xystus Comment by Xystus UNITED STATES

    If you knew us getting hit again would launch a chain of transformative, cascading events that would enable a better nation where millions who would have died will live longer, would such a calculus have any moral validity?

    But no one ever knows such things, rendering his cute little exercise pointless–except as a demonstration of BDS & perhaps other related maladies.

  5. LC HJ Caveman82952 Comment by LC HJ Caveman82952 UNITED STATES

    Just where, oh where, are the lefites calling us idiots for knowing what they were truly all about all along? You mentioned crickets. I have taken parts of these posts, sending them to former scoffers and name callers. Turns out I was right all along. I’m nicer than they are though, I don’t call them idiots, I call them fools.

  6. Unregistered Comment by Lord Spatula I, King & Tyrant UNITED STATES

    What they don’t seem to understand is that, if there’s another attack on this country, never mind when…we’re not gonna blame Bush - we’re gonna blame them.

    Only this  time, it’ll go a little farther than pointing just fingers, if you catch my drift.

  7. Deathknyte Comment by Deathknyte UNITED STATES

    Certainly sounds to me like he is advocating domestic terrorism to bring about the socialist utopia.

  8. Nanashi Comment by Nanashi UNITED STATES

    Oh, I’m certainly not going to question their patriotism. They’re very patriotic…towards the Islamic “Republic” of Iran.

  9. Muzzy Comment by Muzzy UNITED KINGDOM

    As one who self-identifies as liberal may I please interrupt this thread to issue an important public service announcement:

    Hereby let it be known that the Huffington Post blogger known as Russell Shaw, is much less intelligent than a Rhesus monkey that spent its formative years being tested for the effects of black tar heroin on cognitive ability

    If this fool represented even a handful of fringe nutters I’d be very surprised. Please don’t think he’s speaking for anyone other than himself. In fact, to quote a few people from the comments on that article:

    “Russell: Josef Goebells just called. He says he wants his ideology back.”

    “”I Hope And Pray We Don’t Get Hit Again-BUT …..I hope we get hit again”

    It’s like how some people say “I’m not a racist - BUT…” and then say something incredibly racist.”

    “This guy is obviously a plant for the neocons.”

    “There is something horribly wrong with you.”

    “Of course not! What a stupid question. This country will vote Democratic because of morally valid reasons, not because someone has to die first!!”

    It seems the vast majority of posters agreed the guy was a giant douche.

  10. Unregistered Trackback by All Things Beautiful UNITED STATES

    ‘Progressively’ More Crazy…

    Have the so called self styled ‘progressives’ completely lost it? The only ‘progress’ they have made is one of falling into further psychotic ‘Michael Moore clone’ abyss: Russel Shaw of The Huffington Post wishes for another terrorist attack on t…

  11. Brian the sailor Comment by Brian the sailor UNITED STATES


    Thank you.

    Damn, I wish I were eloquent. But if I were, I’d say something along the lines of:

    We’re liberal here. We believe in free speach. We believe in this republic we call the United States. That isn’t jingoism. Hell, I speak with good people every day, who may or may not adhere to my political views. I can say truthfully that I can’t recall meeting anyone who’s salivating over the possibility of another terrorist attack on the U.S.

    Hell, I live in San Diego and even the undocumented aliens aren’t as seditious as this asshole.


  12. Brian the sailor Comment by Brian the sailor UNITED STATES

    I said “hell” twice in that last post.

    Does that mean I’m going there when I die. Or maybe murdering hobos and kittens is enough to get me entrance.

    Maybe I should have a cup of coffee before I post.

    Nah. Prefer the early morning haze.

  13. LC Wil Comment by LC Wil UNITED STATES

    Damn. I REALLY wish I hadn’t seen this.

    The comments on the site mostly go against this sick son of a bitch, but the first one up was a leftist classic:

    Dude you’re crazy. The spin machine is so far ahead of you… Do you not remember that the last one happened on their watch? And they spun that totally out of control. The spin this time would be similar to what Reagan used the Iran hostage crisis for:

    I tried to register to tell this sick son of a bitch that he’s a sick son of a bitch. Guess what - I got a message that I couldn’t register, because I was coming from here. Ain’t that a bitch? I guess even Arianna is running scared of the Rott!

  14. juandos Comment by juandos UNITED STATES

    Shaw yammers on: “Save hundreds of thousands of American lives by enacting universal health care“…

    Funny but did I miss the part where Shaw also said he’d pay for this sort of ridiculous program?

    Apparently Shaw has no problem repeating the completely fisked crap: “unlike Bin Laden’s hosts in Afghanistan, had nothing to do with 9/11.“… Typical lib-tard, long on witless whine and short on facts…

    I’m guessing Shaw didn’t get his chance to get laid by a hippie chick or guy during the Vietnam war protests and this his next, best shot at that little bit of heaven…

    Mr. Keller notes this about the lib-tards: There is absolutely no doubt but that America’s Left-wingers are at war with America itself. They admit it every day, they call their war The Struggle, The Good Fight, The Battle. And why do they wage war on America? Because America is evil. Because they hate what America is: a country running on merit instead of redistribution; a country where there are winners and losers; where it’s possible for one person to have more than another; where the government doesn’t federalize and reallocate money, goods, and services according to the eerie standards of social justice, political correctness, and mathematical cultural sameness….

  15. Unregistered Comment by Kalafan UNITED STATES

    Shaw’s a nutcase, alright, but not too different from his “opponents,” in that he actually believed the bullshit about Nazi Germany being capable of subjugating the entire world, let alone two or more continents. Then again, most present-day libtards would probably be MUCH happier if the Soviets had managed to subjugate the US (could’ve happened if they had stayed out of the Middle East). Regarding the “illegal” spying that the feds are doing (which, if I recall correctly, has been in place since the Carter Administration, funny how they only noticed after about TWO FUCKING DECADES), if they themselves aren’t plotting to blow shit up, what are they bitching about?

    And Mr. Keller’s statement is ack-basswards: America is socialist to the point of embarrassment, and has been so since the 1970s, with the ever-increasing welfare classes, the endless stream of five-year (anti) education plans that make the kids all dumber, being heavily stepped in political correctness with invaluable help from the TV, not to mention Affirmative Action, offering all manner of social services to illegal aliens who don’t get caught at the border, and a mass of youth who are about the most irresponsible, unintelligent and lazy people we’ve had yet. We are one of Cultural Marxism’s two major strongholds in the world, and the opposite of nearly everything that Keller quote says we are.

  16. Unregistered Trackback by Radioactive Liberty UNITED STATES

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