LC Brewser (among others) asks us if we’ve seen this display of Idiotarian shitheadedness yet. Well, we have now and we can’t say that our Imperial Blood Pressure has benefitted from it.

Warriors and wusses

At the end of this blather, there is no doubt which class the loathsome bag of festering pus known to the LA Swines as “Joel Stein” belongs to.

I DON’T SUPPORT our troops. This is a particularly difficult opinion to have, especially if you are the kind of person who likes to put bumper stickers on his car. Supporting the troops is a position that even Calvin is unwilling to urinate on.

Well, we don’t know. It seems to us that there are any number of bumper stickers you can stick on your Prius without ever running the risk of being mistaken for a patriot, rational human being or even somebody worth wasting oxygen on. You could always do the same as a large portion of your fellow Idiotarians and slap a “Free Tibet” sticker on there, then go on to do absolutely nothing to bring that joyous event about.

That’s what you loathsome lefties are all about, after all. Talking the talk and not once, under any circumstances, even attempting to walk the walk. In Wussy World, or the “Reality-Based Community” (as in “actually bears no resemblance to whatever it’s based on”, such as 99% of Hollywood filmatizations of books), it doesn’t really matter if you’re actually prepared to do something, as long as you’re able to fold your hands piously and wish for something, something that even liberals can reliably accomplish, which is probably why it’s so popular with them.

“Free Tibet”, they say, then refuse to back anything that might actually bring such a thing about.

I’m sure I’d like the troops. They seem gutsy, young and up for anything. If you’re wandering into a recruiter’s office and signing up for eight years of unknown danger, I want to hang with you in Vegas.

“Who dares wins” is an unknown concept to liberals. Nothing is worth risking anything for, because it’s always up to somebody else to make sure that you have whatever your heart desires. Can’t afford the house you always wanted? Demand that the government rob your neighbor and make him pay for it. Can’t afford health care? Don’t get an extra job, demand that government supplies it to you free of charge. End poverty in the Turd World? Don’t teach them how to earn a living, rob the funds from those who have (and make sure it’s somebody else’s funds), then give it to them. Defeat Islamofascism? Fine and dandy, as long as it doesn’t involve any actual, you know, fighting. Oh, and at the same time they’ll be the first to bitch, kvetch and moan if a lack of response leads to an attack on their neighborhood.

The Way of the Coward.

And I’ve got no problem with other people — the ones who were for the Iraq war — supporting the troops. If you think invading Iraq was a good idea, then by all means, support away. Load up on those patriotic magnets and bracelets and other trinkets the Chinese are making money off of.

So we can count on your support for invading China? Didn’t think so either.

But I’m not for the war. And being against the war and saying you support the troops is one of the wussiest positions the pacifists have ever taken — and they’re wussy by definition.

Finally he says something worthy of mention which, in and of itself, is nothing short of a bloody miracle where journalists are concerned. At least this slimy turd is enough of a man to not try to eat his cake and have it. Oh no, he’s quite up front about being a seditionist shitbird, which has to count for something.

It’s as if the one lesson they took away from Vietnam wasn’t to avoid foreign conflicts with no pressing national interest but to remember to throw a parade afterward.

Blindly lending support to our soldiers, I fear, will keep them overseas longer by giving soft acquiescence to the hawks who sent them there — and who might one day want to send them somewhere else.

Who said anything about “blindly” lending support to our soldiers? We support them because they’re doing a damn fine job, because they’re doing it for all of us and because we believe in their mission. Quite focused, if you ask us. Not that you’d recognize focus if it jumped into your lap, tore open your zipper with its teeth and performed fellatio on your shriveled dick for three weeks straight.

Trust me, a guy who thought 50.7% was a mandate isn’t going to pick up on the subtleties of a parade for just service in an unjust war. He’s going to be looking for funnel cake.

Besides, those little yellow ribbons aren’t really for the troops. They need body armor, shorter stays and a USO show by the cast of “Laguna Beach.”

In short: They need to do anything except the job that they signed up to do. Much like being a journalist, really.

The real purpose of those ribbons is to ease some of the guilt we feel for voting to send them to war and then making absolutely no sacrifices other than enduring two Wolf Blitzer shows a day. Though there should be a ribbon for that.

Quit projecting and assuming that you have any idea what motivates human beings. You’d have to evolve far enough to actually warrant inclusion in the species first, and currently you’re stuck on “journalist.” There are few things more laughably pathetic than a twit asserting that we’re all really against the war, deep down, and that we’re just trying to assuage our guilt by pretending to support the troops.

Of course, for somebodything obviously unable to support anything but itself, that concept is a tough one to grasp.

As to Wolf Blitzer, we agree. Fortunately, we higher beings have discovered something called a “remote control.”

I understand the guilt. We know we’re sending recruits to do our dirty work, and we want to seem grateful.

Using the royal “we” is our shtick. Quit insulting our intelligence by pretending that you know the first thing about what the rest of us think.

After we’ve decided that we made a mistake, we don’t want to blame the soldiers who were ordered to fight. Or even our representatives, who were deceived by false intelligence. And certainly not ourselves, who failed to object to a war we barely understood.

What mistake? What deception? What lack of understanding?

Oh. Yours. You really ought to do something about that tendency to say “we” when you really mean “I.” You might also benefit from not deluding yourself into thinking that what you think is of any relevance to the rest of us or, indeed, the rest of the world.

But blaming the president is a little too easy.

Never seemed to stop you or your fellow travelers at the bottom of the evolutionary ladder in the slightest before, so why all of the heartache now?

The truth is that people who pull triggers are ultimately responsible, whether they’re following orders or not. An army of people making individual moral choices may be inefficient, but an army of people ignoring their morality is horrifying.

And we’ve now established that Joel Stein’s morality (or what he seems to think is one) is the correct one for everybody, so anybody not agreeing with him is not only not agreeing with Joel (a legend in his own diseased mind), they’re ignoring morality as a concept.

Even we can’t reach that level of pompousassity, no matter how many Long Island Iced Teas we throw back.

An army of people ignoring their morality, by the way, is also Jack Abramoff’s pet name for the House of Representatives.

I do sympathize with people who joined up to protect our country, especially after 9/11, and were tricked into fighting in Iraq. I get mad when I’m tricked into clicking on a pop-up ad, so I can only imagine how they feel.

So true. You can only imagine.

Problem is, you suck in truly mindbogglingly suckeriferous ways when imagining, as you do in all of life’s other endeavors, we’re sure.

Joel thinks the troops were “tricked” into fighting, ergo the troops think they were “tricked” into fighting. You may be the first life form we’ve ever encountered that actually holds an opinion of itself higher than that of its maternal unit. Now that’s amazing.

But when you volunteer for the U.S. military, you pretty much know you’re not going to be fending off invasions from Mexico and Canada. So you’re willingly signing up to be a fighting tool of American imperialism, for better or worse.

As evidenced by our vast American Empire and her enormous overseas holdings acquired through war, invasion and bloodshed.

For an allegedly imperialist superpower unmatched by any nation or alliance of nations on the planet, we sure aren’t batting a thousand.

Sometimes you get lucky and get to fight ethnic genocide in Kosovo, but other times it’s Vietnam.

Get stuck in Kosovo for longer than the Viet Nam war lasted without anybody ever as much as breathing the word “quagmire”, now that’s “lucky” for you, right there!

And sometimes, for reasons I don’t understand, you get to just hang out in Germany.

We could try making a list of things that you’re obviously incapable of understanding, but we’d never get done.

I know this is all easy to say for a guy who grew up with money, did well in school and hasn’t so much as served on jury duty for his country.

“Did well in school?” We thought you were a journalist? But thanks for the usual lefty snark about how soldiers are all illiterate high school dropouts without a penny to their name. It proves that you’re not merely an ignorant shitstain on the Speedos of Humanity, you’re also an elitist snob of a shitstain.

Not that we would’ve ever imagined otherwise.

But it’s really not that easy to say because anyone remotely affiliated with the military could easily beat me up, and I’m listed in the phone book.

And, as we all know, the Long Dark Night of Fascism and Right Wing Death Squads descended upon us back in 2000, which is why impotent whiners like you have been screaming, howling and dissenting with impunity ever since.

We’d almost volunteer to beat your worthless carcass into next week if it wasn’t for the fact that it’s obviously what you crave. To be taken seriously rather than being ridiculed and ignored, and we just don’t have it in us to give you that satisfaction. Much better and much more amusing to just watch you writhe while you scream “look at me! LOOK AT MEEEE!”

I’m not advocating that we spit on returning veterans like they did after the Vietnam War, but we shouldn’t be celebrating people for doing something we don’t think was a good idea. All I’m asking is that we give our returning soldiers what they need: hospitals, pensions, mental health and a safe, immediate return. But, please, no parades.

Seriously, the traffic is insufferable.

But there’s always the hope that you’d get caught in the middle of it.

On foot.

(More at the Imperial Firearms Advisor, The Dread Pundit Bluto and Jeff G.)

31 Responses to “Can We Please Start Dumping Asshats Like This One in the Ocean?”
  1. Unregistered Comment by olga UNITED STATES

    what a piece of sh$t!
    The only somewhat positive result of LATimes pubishing this crap is that he showed his and lefties true colors…

  2. Unregistered Comment by GUYK UNITED STATES

    I have always had problems with that “I don’t support the war–but I do support the troops.” position because it is a contradiction at best and a gotdam lie at worst. There is no way one can support the troops and be an anti-war protester at the same time. Every protest, every new paper article that twists the facts, every time a gotdamn congressperson says we cannot win; every gotdam time it is giving comfort and hope to the enemy who figures that the USA will cave in and run just as they did in Vietnam. I call it aiding and abetting and figure that a hell of a lot of it virges on treason. If they don’t support the war then they should just keep their damn mouths shut.

  3. jaybear Comment by jaybear UNITED STATES

    Can We Please Start Dumping Asshats Like This One in the Ocean?

    Personally, I don’t think tossing this traitor in the ocean is worth the time or effort. If you really want to hurt him do this:
    Don’t read or link or acknowledge any of the crap he calls writing….

    let him languish in anonymity and obscurity. It’s what self important little worms like him fear the most. Ya’ can’t be an al quaeda propaganda whore if no one listens to or reads your scribblings.

  4. Unregistered Comment by aelfheld UNITED STATES

    […] something we don’t think was a good idea.

    What’s this ‘we’ shite, white boy?

    I don’t recall giving Stein power of attorney. Just because he’s admitting that ‘hate the war, luv the troops’ is a pantsload doesn’t make him an arbiter of morals. The only thing Stein’s earned by his honesty is the courtesy of a final cigarette before he’s lined up with his fellow seditionists.

  5. LC 0311 crunchie Comment by LC 0311 crunchie UNITED STATES

    You now sumthin’, it’s probably for the best that asshats like this don’t support us (unlike this douchebag, I did serve and can use the collective and inclusive term). A person can be judged by the caliber of his associates and there is no way I would want anyone thinking this jiz guzzler is in any way linked to the good guys.
    :stfu:

  6. Unregistered Comment by Lady Heather GLOR UNITED STATES

    Seriously, the traffic is insufferable.

    Go play in it. :finger:

  7. LC Beaker Comment by LC Beaker UNITED STATES

    I understand the guilt. We know we’re sending recruits to do our dirty work, and we want to seem grateful.

    Wrong, assmunch. We don’t “want to seem grateful.” We are grateful. Those who serve to defend and protect the country are heroes. Period.

    As for the guilt, don’t insult our intelligence. Leftist fucktards disdain the military. The only guilt they feel is when they blow an opportunity to score political points over the number of deaths in Iraq.

    No, true guilt comes from not serving when able, and now being to old to when needed. I know because I live with it everyday. So, I thank the troops whenever I have the good fortune to meet them, I donate to organizations that support them and their families, and I fight like hell to get people elected who will support them while in office.

    Still, it’s not the same as fighting with them. That’s something I deeply regret, and I feel that regret everyday.

    Unfortunately, leftist, terrorist-supporting, bong-smoking, journalist fuckwads never do.

  8. Mike M Comment by Mike M UNITED STATES

    In a way it’s actually sort of refreshing to see a chancre like this drop the phony leftoid “I support the troops” masquerade and admit how he actually feels about our all volunteer military. In fact, I expect to see many more like him follow suit soon. You can only live the lie just so long.

  9. Unregistered Comment by RhiGirl UNITED STATES

    Gotta give him props for beint straightforward and honest, at least. There are two kinds of anti-war Democrats/liberals: the kind that doesn’t like the reasons why we went into Iraq in the first place but think we should stick it out, and the kind that pretends to be a member of the former group but is really in it because he’s a regular ole Bush-hater. Think moral equivalence.

  10. MCPO Airdale Comment by MCPO Airdale UNITED STATES

    He doesn’t support me or my shipmates? Fine. Just keep commenting on your little VH1 specials, write for Time and the LAT. Never contribute to society, just critique it. Look down you nose at the vast majority of Americans that love their country, honor their heros and love their kids.

    Hey Joel, do you require oxygen up there on your mount? Or is it the lack thereof that causes such utterances? Now, would you please :stfu:

  11. Unregistered Comment by LC Godandstarcraft UNITED STATES

    hey buddy, walk into a USO and try to “enlighten the troops that they’ve been duped.”
    When i enlisted in the US Navy, right after high school, i wanted to go to Iraq. I knew why and for what reason i was enlisting. Now granted, i didnt get my chance to play in the sandbox (or in my case, the puddle outside) but the point still remains….I supported the troops so much that i became one.
    Fast forward 2 and a half years and a medical discharge from the Service and i still support the troops…and the mission…and their Commander in Chief….as a matter of fact, the only thing i dont support is the POS seditionists like yourself….go to hell and ride all your friends on the way there! :mad:

  12. Unregistered Comment by Tuning Spork UNITED STATES

    This is buggin’ me so lemme play Liberal’s Advocate here. Let’s say the POTUS and COTUS send our troops to Tibet to help the Chicoms extricate, once and for all, a thorn in their paw, in order to foster better business relations with Bejing. Could the Empire support such a mission? Of course not.

    And if we were getting reports from the front lines that our troops were mowing down innocent freedom-loving men, women and children for no reason other than that it was suspected that maybe the might have considered thinking about being friends with some Tibetan who opposed the communist regime and/or google, would we proclaim that we “support the troops” anyway?

    To “support the troops” implies that you wish them success in their mission even though you do not support the mission. To vaguely say that you only hope that they get back home safely still presumes that they will be successful in their mission, not defeated, and so Liberals say that they want to “support the troops by bringing them home”. If someone told you that you’re free to hate the slaughter of millions of Tibetans but that you shouldn’t protest the mission because that is not “supporting the troops”, you’d wanna lop off his head with a broadsword because any American government that would do such a thing is a traitor to her values.

    So, a Liberal — who for some reason that we can’t fathom is painfully obvious — might believe that deposing a tyranical terrorist and replacing him with liberty is an immoral endeavor, and he cannot “support the troops” in that mission. Him thinking that does not make him a traitor, it only makes him a protester.

    When Joel says that he does not support the troops he is saying that he does not support their mission. My beef with him is that he doesn’t have the guts to come right out and say that he supports their defeat. The wuss.

    I’m just sayin’ is all. :satansmoking:

  13. caveman82952 Comment by caveman82952 UNITED STATES

    Not support the military? Who in the hell does this dipshit think he is? He owes his very right to publish this rot to the military. Funny thing about liberals, in any truly oppressive country they are generally the first ones wiped out. Sometimes I wonder what we could learn from these places……as for the LA Times, I expect nothing else. Being a resident of central Cal I have been forced to innoculate myself against such things. Fuck you Joel, you stinking ingrate! As for the military… :thumbup:

  14. Unregistered Comment by Tuning Spork UNITED STATES

    ER… I shoulda said “Him thinking that does not make him a traitor, it only makes him a protester…in his mind.

    Yeah. That’s better.

  15. michaelcullen Comment by michaelcullen UNITED STATES

    hey misha you did not post anything on the biggest DC rally of the year, no not an anti war rally but the march for life. I’m sure that cnn did almost no coverage on it.

  16. Demosthenes Comment by Demosthenes CANADA

    But don’t you ever dare question his patriotism. /sarcasm

  17. LC Ranger 6 Comment by LC Ranger 6 UNITED STATES

    You guys are giving WAAAAAAYYYYY too much attention to a waste of oxygen.

    Post his home address and move on. He’ll be re-educated by the free speech of his neighbors.

    (I know there are some Americans even in Loose Anus, CA)

  18. Blackiswhite Comment by Blackiswhite UNITED STATES

    The truth is that people who pull triggers are ultimately responsible, whether they’re following orders or not. An army of people making individual moral choices may be inefficient, but an army of people ignoring their morality is horrifying.

    Inciting rebellion against lawful authority? Sound like treason to me.
    For all his talk about deceit, he seems to have missed the fact that if the troops are fighting the nutjobs there, we aren’t fighting them here. Not reporting that fact is a bigger crime against the American people than any ‘pretense’ W used to sell the US Congress, including the Dims, into going to war. Useless pusbag.

  19. B.C., Imperial Torturer™ Comment by B.C., Imperial Torturer™ UNITED STATES

    Damn. I suppose Journaljizm Skool™ WAS a lot more difficult than being an Honor Grad in Arabic from the Defense Language Institute in Monterey AND the USAF follow-on linguist tech school in San Angelo.

    I feel so inferior to this Literary God™, Joel Stein. :whatever:

  20. Unregistered Comment by fanbladesaresharp UNITED STATES

    From Joel’s site:

    I know this is all easy to say for a guy who grew up with money, did well in school and hasn’t so much as served on jury duty for his country. But it’s really not that easy to say because anyone remotely affiliated with the military could easily beat me up, and I’m listed in the phone book.

    I’m not advocating that we spit on returning veterans like they did after the Vietnam War, but we shouldn’t be celebrating people for doing something we don’t think was a good idea. All I’m asking is that we give our returning soldiers what they need: hospitals, pensions, mental health and a safe, immediate return. But, please, no parades.”

    Not only does he have a spine, he has no balls either. In fact, I think he’s a fucking jellyfish.

  21. jaybear Comment by jaybear UNITED STATES

    LC Beaker sez:

    No, true guilt comes from not serving when able, and now being to old to when needed. I know because I live with it everyday. So, I thank the troops whenever I have the good fortune to meet them, I donate to organizations that support them and their families, and I fight like hell to get people elected who will support them while in office.

    Jaybear sez: That one really got to me Beaker, I too did not serve…not that I didn’t have the chance, I got out on a medical due to two knee surgeries 4 months before my draft lottery number was picked in 1972. I won’t mention that I was doing competitive Tae Kwon Do a year later….but that’s beside the point. I too wrestle with that guilt and also the pride whenever I see one of those young kids in uniform, they and the vets everywhere do a job that I didn’t do, so the least I can do is shake their hand, buy them a cup of coffee, and fight like hell to get them the absolute best commander in chief.

    Like I have said before, I didn’t serve, but did work with Army armor for 10 years in training and simulation. I spent time at tank schools like Knox and Graf, and lots of time at Ft. Hood and a week at NTC.

    One of the most gut wrenching moments for me was this. I was down at Ft. Hood on a field data gathering trip during Desert Shield (the buildup in 1990-1991). I spent a lot of time getting dusty with tank crews and infantry guys, and got pretty friendly with them. I was there the day that the 2nd Armored got the call to mobilize. I was standing with a bunch of the soldiers that I was working with and when the order came down we all just looked at one another. I was going off base and home, and they were going to war. What do you say at a time like that? all I could think of was “hey, contact me when you get back O.K.?” I didn’t want to wish them good luck, they were too professional for that and I didn’t want to take the chance of jinxing them. We traded phone numbers and email addys and went our separate ways. I rode back to the main gate in the back of a pickup truck with our sergeant (and group liaison)and neither one of us said a word. I met up with the rest of my co-workers and we caught our planes and went home. I’ll never forget the looks on those guys faces, I’ll never forget much I admired them and how sorry I felt for them, I think I prayed every night for them until they came home again (all of them). 15 years later, I still stay in semi-contact with a couple of those guys. One guy is still serving, the other decided to take his retirement and try the civilian world. Until the day I die, I will never forget those guys in the field….what a fine great bunch of heroes they all are. That’s what elevates me above Joel Steyn, I got the privelege to be in the company of people who make a difference in this damned world, people who are far more honorable than any he knows. I will never be able to call myself a veteran, or to say I served this country, but I’ll say this to those men and women who are fighting to give Steyn the freedoms he so abuses:

    “God bless you all, keep fighting the good fight, us true patriots here at home…..we got your six”

    sorry if I get overly sentimental about this stuff…

  22. Emperor Darth Misha I Comment by Emperor Darth Misha I UNITED STATES

    LCs Beaker and Jaybear:

    If it’s any consolation, having served doesn’t help all that much. I did, but since the Russkies weren’t quite crazy enough (in spite of what we feared) to pull off the Big One, I lucked out. Nothing compared to what our guys over there are facing now, that’s for sure. And I have all the regrets that you who didn’t serve do. I felt, and feel that I didn’t do enough, and I’ll feel that way until I die, in spite of all of the sincere, heartfelt and most welcome assurances that it isn’t so.

    I tried to join up after 9/11 but they wouldn’t have me. Apparently they didn’t need an “ancient” 34-year-old or maybe it’s because I’d done my bit in a foreign Army and they didn’t feel like bringing me up to speed with the U.S. way of doing things. I don’t know, I just know that it hurts.

    Add to the desire to do something the fact that I feel that the Army are my brothers and sisters in spite of the fact that I didn’t wear the same uniform as they. It’s this strange brotherhood thing, I suppose. Just like I’ve met a few former Soviet soldiers since the end of the Cold War that I felt a strange bond with in spite of the fact that we’d been on opposing sides, trained to kill each other.

    So you have the desire to pitch in and not being allowed to, combined with the feeling that you’re letting your friends down.

    I’m sure a lot, if not all, of the other vets around here feel the same way.

  23. LC 0311 crunchie Comment by LC 0311 crunchie UNITED STATES

    This vet does Sire, in spades.

  24. rat patrol Comment by rat patrol UNITED STATES

    Can one be sure that this guy isn’t :poop:Michael:poop:Crook:poop: (of forsake the troops / police infamy) just using a different nom de plume? :thumbdown: :thumbdown: :thumbdown:

  25. Unregistered Comment by LC Theresa UNITED STATES

    I am retired AF and I never deployed to the desert. I was in Turkey during Desert Storm, close, but not “there”. Until the day I die, I will always feel guilty for not doing my part in this GWOT. I have friends who rotate down there regularly. In fact, one of my old OIC’s has been down there for going on 8 months helping to train the Iraqi SF. She is an awesome officer. I pray to God that our next POTUS will show as much sack as our current one in this life or death struggle we are engaged in. I want my grandkids to have the same America I was blessed with in my youth.

  26. Unregistered Comment by Elephant Man UNITED STATES

    Typical waffling liberal asshat.

    He starts with this liberal moonbat “call to arms”:

    I DON’T SUPPORT our troops. This is a particularly difficult opinion to have, especially if you are the kind of person who likes to put bumper stickers on his car. Supporting the troops is a position that even Calvin is unwilling to urinate on.

    Then apparently realizing that he and most of his leftist asshat brethren would end up having their faces, cars, etc. receive er,… (how shall I put this?)…negative feedback from your average “non-moonbatted” American:

    But it’s really not that easy to say because anyone remotely affiliated with the military could easily beat me up, and I’m listed in the phone book.

    He wusses out and ends his bleat with this pathetic whimper:

    I’m not advocating that we spit on returning veterans like they did after the Vietnam War, but we shouldn’t be celebrating people for doing something we don’t think was a good idea. All I’m asking is that we give our returning soldiers what they need: hospitals, pensions, mental health and a safe, immediate return. But, please, no parades.

    Seriously, the traffic is insufferable.

    Hey moonbat, if you can’t show a little courage to back up your convictions, just drink a cup of :stfu:

    Sidenote: How many trees had to die in order to print that idiot’s drivel?

  27. Unregistered Comment by sgtmech UNITED STATES

    Hey guys,
    Well, I finally made it to sandland. I’d post pics if I could figure out how the hell to do it. LOL Anyway, you guys keep up the heat back home, it’s one of the things that keeps me going. God bless you all and stay safe!
    Bill

  28. LC Mike in Chi Comment by LC Mike in Chi UNITED STATES

    I was anguished when my son was sent to Tel Aviv at the start of the move into Iraq. He was on an isolated Patriot site and called me at odd times when he was free.
    I was talking to him on one occasion and kept getting sappy about not being able to do much in the current WoT. After the third time of me trying to explain how much I wanted to do something he stopped me from continuing.
    “Dad, you did do something, you raised me,” he said.
    He joined with his eyes wide open. He used the High School recruiter and was in Ft. Knox boot in September when some goofy A-rabs decided to help us with a little urban renewal. He’s out now. Helping a buddy from his company go thru chemo at Walter Reed. The guy has a young wife still in the Army.
    They were heading my way a few weeks back, hunting and going on a slow roll, visiting family and just having a good time. My son’s buddy started bleeding and had to turn back before I could see them. When they called the young fellow doing chemo says,
    “I’m sorry, I really wanted to meet you, sir.”
    It still chokes me up a bit when I think of that. He’s sick and apologizes to me for it. That’s the stuff men are made of.
    Not this Stein assbite.
    When scuttling around looking for the moral highground they’ll always find it occupied by guys and gals who got pushed there while trying to do the right thing. The Steins of the LLL will always feel crowded out by folks like our Emporer or any of the VRWC bloggers who will not give them an inch or a foot to stand on.
    I sent pizzas, bought stupid car magnets, said something when an asshat puked up the tired memes of socialists and DUmbocrats, went to counter-protests, sent care packages to soldiers and wrote them emails to say how I appreciated their service.
    I still anguish on not being up front and personal. I’ll never get over it and I’ll never stop giving.
    I told my son to take care of his friend and don’t worry about the visit. I said,
    “You know what to do.”
    He’ll do the right thing. I know.
    Because it is what I’d do.

  29. caveman82952 Comment by caveman82952 UNITED STATES

    I’m sure a lot, if not all, of the other vets around here feel the same way.

    As does this one my Liege…if everybody back home was like Jaybear it would be heavenly. For every man on the front line, there are ten backing him up. All play their part, both in the service…and here at home. I too, feel a kinship. I was a squid, a machinist’s mate on a flattop. My best buddy was a grunt, killed in ‘Nam. And yes, I still think about him and give thanks…..not all can serve, but all can support on their own fashion.

    :thumbup:

  30. Michael Comment by Michael UNITED STATES

    Hugh Hewitt Owned Joel stein in this really great interview.

  31. Unregistered Comment by cas UNITED STATES

    hi guyk and tuning spork,

    “I don’t support the war–but I do support the troops.” position because it is a contradiction at best and a gotdam lie at worst. There is no way one can support the troops and be an anti-war protester at the same time

    how then to explain the phenomenon of a soldier who goes to war, follows orders, and privately (or to his fellow soldiers) says that “this war is so fucking illegal”? in other words, does his duty but disagrees with the mission (for whatever reason)?

    to my mind that is the situation a citizen who is not at war also faces. he or she can disagree with the mission or not, but she or he still has a duty to being a citizen. one of those duties is to join in an informed discourse about issues and further rational debate.

    i know the obvious answer to that definition i gave you, and many of you have chuckles, but in the final analysis, when tuning spork gives a fine and thoughtful analysis of the situation, and then says:

    So, a Liberal — who for some reason that we can’t fathom is painfully obvious — might believe that deposing a tyranical terrorist and replacing him with liberty is an immoral endeavor, and he cannot “support the troops” in that mission. Him thinking that does not make him a traitor, it only makes him a protester.

    he sets up the issue in a way that makes liberals roll their eyes (in the same way that TAIR regulars would when faced with a different set-up of the issue sympathetic to the liberal view of things-which i won’t bother rehashing for the #12345123 time).