When I wrote about the pernicious myth of the “noble savage” and used the despicable Mayans (still a distant second to the even more pathologically insane and bloodthirsty Aztecs) as an example, I fully expected some of the Usual Nitwits to take offense at my disparaging remarks about their “fascinating” pet cultures and, once again, prove their lack of understanding of the Queen’s English by abusing the term “racist” to describe my remarks.

(An aside: I have absolutely no problems with the Mayan “race”, a race that doesn’t exist, by the way. At least learn basic biology before you start using words that you obviously don’t understand. What I do have a problem with, and what every civilized person ought to have a problem with, is their vile, useless, brutal, bestial and utterly disgusting culture. So call me a “culturist” if you must. If you refuse to do so and insist, instead, on using the more catchy “racist”, you prove nothing but your own massive ignorance.)

And, sure enough, one of them bit:

Yay, bat-shit crazy conservatives! Listening to this blogger’s rant, I can almost hear a famous song from the other Disney movie that deals with Native People: Pocahontas. How does the chorus go? Oh yes, something like, “They’re savages, savages; barely even human. Savages, savages, rotten to the core.” Really, I do love Disney movies.

Anyway, the ideas on display here are just the type I was fearful of. Don’t get me wrong, I’m not trying to claim that the Mayans were “noble savages.” And they definitely weren’t peaceful.

And then she (I’m making a rash assumption about gender here based on the title, since that’s all that I have to go on. Well, other than wading through the cesspool of shallow thought proudly displayed by a cerebrally challenged lower life form that has Dhimmicrappic Underwear on her blogroll, and there are limits to what I’ll go through for you, dear readers) goes on, of course, to do just that by quoting a fawning Wikipedia (motto: We’re like an encyclopedia, only without all of the cumbersome facts) article listing the numerous achievements of the Mayans.

They could write, they knew how to waste massive amounts of resources and whip slaves to death building enormous temples to their imaginary friends, and they could paint. So can my five-year-olds, although they, admittedly, haven’t built any monuments yet. Unless Lego counts.

Color me massively unimpressed, not to mention that it hardly excuses their predilection for cutting people’s hearts out of their living chests and throwing women and children down wells. The Nazis built some pretty impressive monuments too, not to mention that they pretty much invented modern warfare and designed the technology that brought us to the Moon, but, be that as it may, I still find it more than a little bit difficult to forgive them for WWII and the Holocaust.

I suppose I should just let go of my childish grudges and instead marvel at the achievements of the Nazi swine.

Oh, but the idiocy goes on, like an endless cascade of dimwitted drivel designed to drown out rational thought wherever it might be found:

But what I think concerns me the most is the lack of an explanation for the violence felt throughout Mayan kingdoms.

Oh yes, let us explain it all, because surely those noble, wonderful, FABULOUS primitives with their architecture, paintings and doodled clay tablets couldn’t possibly have committed all of those atrocities simply because they and their culture were, in a word, atrocious. Why don’t you just go straight ahead and use the word you’re really looking for here, you terminally tumblefucked titweasel? You want to excuse it. The historical and archaeological facts are irrefutable, so let’s find the “root cause” for all of this brutality so that we may continue to admire the painted beasts in spite of their demonstrable disregard for decency and civilized behavior.

And while we’re at it, let’s explain the atrocities of Genghis Khan, the Huns, Josef Stalin, Adolf Hitler and Pol Pot as well, shall we?

Fuckhead.

From an article on “Maya Warfare, Myth and Reality,” David Freidel says, if you can look “at Maya war in the time of the ninth century collapse as the havoc spun out an imbalanced society. In that crisis, Maya war engendered not a negotiation of contesting powers, but an affliction debilitating all in its path. In the ninth century, there were too many hungry people, too many haughty and demanding elite.

But of course. It was all class warfare. It was all the fault of the rich. Those evil, heartless, murdering rich that have plagued mankind since time immemorial. If only Karl Marx had been born in 60,000 B.C., we wouldn’t have had any problems at all. We’d all be dancing naked in the meadows, singing Kumbaya in perfect harmony while petting our unicorns.

An environment and subsistence technology stretched to the breaking point released the desperate imperatives of survival through forceful appropriation.

Oh, and they raped Gaia too! Which is the real reason for all of the violent rituals and massacres!

What else? Global Wormening? You betcha!:

No one is sure is one is sure about why Mayan civilization suffered such a great collapse, but most believe it can be traced back to class issues, which then can be traced back to specific agricultural, and ecological problems. As the Wikipedia article points out, the theory that rapid climate change and severe drought contributed to the Classic period collapse, is “based on the evidence of the Lake Chichancanab.

So there you have it: The poor, peaceful lambs, the innocent naifs of the Mayan Empire were driven to their institutionalized excesses by rampant capitalism, environmental abuse and global climate change. IT WASN’T THEIR FAULT! THEY WERE MADE TO DO IT!

Feel free to go retch. Or laugh your butts off. Personally, I tend toward the latter.

But we’re not done yet.

You see, for all that the Mayans did, er, were FORCED to do, we’re really no better at all:

Take for example the Massacre of My Lai, in which the Army’s Charlie Company murdered 347 unarmed men, women and children in the Vietnamese village of My Lai.

Or how about THIS one?:

Abu Ghraib, a more recent incident of of U.S. brutality is well known by most Americans.

Don’t you see it? Human sacrifice, torture, mass murder and cannibalism is really no worse than putting panties on the heads of prisoners.

Not to mention that the Moonbat completely fails to make a notice of the somewhat critical fact that the perpetrators at both My Lai and Abu Ghraib acted clearly in violation of the laws of the society to which they belonged and were duly punished for their misdeeds, whereas the orgies of blood-curdling barbarism of the Mayas and Aztecs were wholly approved of and sanctioned by the societies that committed them.

There’s quite the difference there, but of course that flies clear over the head of the imbecilic Moonbat’s pointed little skull.

But why don’t we take a look at some of the deeds that the Mayans were “forced” to do, some of the atrocities that were “no different from Abu Ghraib?” (link thanks to LC Juandos):

First of all, the Maya world was divided into polities, or city-states, that would at times be at peace with each other or under different circumstances fight with each other. The aim of this rather limited warfare was to take prisoners. Low status captives generally wound up as slaves to their captor, but high-status captives were scheduled for ritual sacrifice.

Er, hold it right there… Wasn’t it the Evil Rich People’s fault that all of this human sacrifice stuff happened in the first place? It doesn’t seem logical that they’d target their own for the actual sacrifice while letting the po’ people go.

The deliberate taking of a human life was deemed necessary to sanctify certain ritual occasions, such as the ascendancy to the throne by a new ruler or the dedication of a new building.

One of those marvelous buildings that we’re all supposed to be in awe of, the incredible architecture that somehow washes away all of the innocent blood that they were bathed in.

The usual method of such a sacrifice was decapitation in a public ceremony. Aside from decapitation, the favored method in Postclassic times was a trick acquired from the Mexican cultures to the north, the removal of the heart. Women and children were sacrificed just as often as men The intended victim was stripped and painted blue before being led to a courtyard or temple where the victim would be placed face-up over a convex altar-like stone also painted blue. The arms and legs of the victim were held by specially designated priests while a fourth, called the nacom, would penetrate the victim’s chest with a flint knife just below the left breast. Reaching inside the chest cavity, the nacom would pull out the still beating heart and hand it to another priest, who would then smear the blood on that idol to which the sacrifice had been made.

Which was all the fault of capitalism and global warming, of course.

If the sacrifice had taken place on the top of a pyramid, the corpse would be thrown to the courtyard below where priests of lower rank would skin the victim except for the hands and feet. The skin would then be worn by the officiating priest who would solemnly dance among the spectators.

Charming. Did they turn them into lampshades later?

If the victim had been an especially brave warrior his body might be butchered and eaten by the nobles and other spectators.

And cannibalism too? Even the friggin’ Nazis didn’t stoop that low, and those bastards weren’t exactly known for their reluctance to commit truly atrocious crimes.

A bow and arrow was also used in human sacrifice. The victim was stripped, painted blue and bound to a stake. According to a sixteenth century .account, ” The foul priest in vestments went up and wounded the victims in parts of shame, whether it was a man or woman, and drew blood and came down and anointed the face of the idol with it.”

Dancers, all armed with bows and arrows ” began one after another to shoot at his heart … in this manner they made his whole chest … like a hedgehog of arrows”

First you jam a knife up their genitals, then you play Human Pin Cushion with the bleeding victim.

But don’t forget their wonderful art!

A recently discovered painting at Tikal shows a man who has been bound to a stake and disemboweled.

Maybe they needed the guts for bowstrings? Or perhaps the blood was needed for ink so they could practice their wonderful written language?

The famous Sacred Cenote (a natural well) located at Chichen-Itza was found to contain numerous skeletons of men, women and children who were sacrificial victims. Bishop de Landa, in the sixteenth century reported: “Into this well they have the custom of throwing Men alive as a sacrifice to the gods in times of drought, and they believed they did not die though they never saw them.”

“Throw the Peasant down the well… So my country can be FREE!”

But at least they weren’t as bad as the Aztecs:

As bad as all this sounds the Maya were amateurs when it came to human sacrifice on a massive scale. The Aztecs of Central. Mexico, many years later, once sacrificed twenty thousand people in a single ceremony to commemorate the dedication of a new temple. Then they ate them.

Bon appetit.

“Noble savages”, my aching butt.

27 Responses to “Just As I Expected”
  1. PFC Krondax Comment by PFC Krondax UNITED STATES

    FIRST!

    you know, some how, i have this feeling that they could explain why someone shot their family up, or brutally tortured and murdered their family, and make it seem like it was all something that was good.

    misha, or anyone else, im almost afraid to ask to please prove me right….

  2. PFC Krondax Comment by PFC Krondax UNITED STATES

    and now, after looking at her site, her blog title says it all

    The Enigma of Madam Mim
    Huh? I have no clue what I’m talking about, but if you can figure it out, let me know.

  3. PFC Krondax Comment by PFC Krondax UNITED STATES

    and of course, on her site the posts awate moderation, as such

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    December 5th, 2006 at 10:40 pm

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    December 5th, 2006 at 10:40 pm

    Hrmm. interseting, very intersting, however, i note that you fail to mention anything about the ritual sacrafices that the Mayans did. Perhaps this was left out because it would undermine your arugment that the mayans were an awe inspiring civilization, instead of a civilization that woudl ritually sacrafice men, women and children?

  4. Michael Comment by Michael UNITED STATES

    I still don’t get why people can accept an “encylopedia” that can Be altered or deleted by anyone as fact. There has been cases where on really controvercial topics members of a certain political persuasion(libtards)go in and Use the blog to trash People on the right.

    Yeah that says source. Of course She could have I dunno spent more time researching for things like meauseums or the site that Juandos found. (but that would kill her arguement)

  5. Xystus Comment by Xystus UNITED STATES

    One missing sidelight here to the theme of Meso-American human sacrifice was the Aztecs’ apparently backasswards ecological ideas. Seems they thought they had to kill all those people, you see, to feed the sun.

  6. Lord Nazh Comment by Lord Nazh UNITED STATES

    Maybe one day liberals will understand what personal responsiblity is all about… probably not while I’m alive though. Nice ream Misha.

  7. Unregistered Comment by LC Teufelhundt UNITED STATES

    Oh that was great. I hope this person attempts a response to your cluebatting. I especially want to hear her explain calling you a racist. I am beyond fed up with that word being used by so many fruitcake youngsters and the like.

  8. juandos Comment by juandos UNITED STATES

    Huh? I have no clue what I’m talking about, but if you can figure it out, let me know

    Pretty much tells the tale as Krondax was quick to note…

    Note the nod to the Malthusians (who have repeatedly debunked) and global warming nut jobs Madame Min found in Freidel’s work: “In his eloquent contribution to this book, T. Patrick Culbert looks at Maya war in the time of the ninth century collapse as the havoc spun out an imbalanced society. In that crisis, Maya war engendered not a negotiation of contesting powers, but an affliction debilitating all in its path. In the ninth century, there were too many hungry people, too many haughty and demanding elite. An environment and subsistence technology stretched to the breaking point released the desperate imperatives of survival through forceful appropriation. We who have lived in the twentieth century know those imperatives first hand or proximately in the haunted faces of hungry and anguished refugees staring out of our television screens“…

    Hmmm, didn’t anyone bother to inform these folks that we as a species have moved far beyond ‘subsistence technology‘ but we could fall back to that situation if these braying moonbats have their way?

  9. MasterGuns Comment by MasterGuns UNITED STATES

    Many moons ago I wrote an essay on the “5 Nations of the Longhouse”….aka the Iroquois. Despite the fact that they did indeed accomplish many things(farming, smelting copper, permanent log houses, fortified towns, etc), the fact remains that they waged war on all other Native American Tribes(ok, so I’m being PC…aka Amerinds), for the sole purpose of capturing slaves. Slaves, if they survived the “gauntlet” and other assorted fun little activities, were often adopted into the 5 Nations. These “noble savages” also practiced ritual cannibalism. Explain to me why their culture was somehow superior to any other culture as many leftist loon anthropologists seem to think?

    A culture is like a species…..only the strong tend to survive. Damn, Cultural Darwinism…..what a concept!

    If a culture from the past was so great, it would still be around. There are decendants of the Mayans, Aztecs, and various Amerind groups alive today. Their culture was supplanted by a superior and stronger European based one. Whereas they did indeed accomplish many amazing things, and the ruins(and their culture for that matter), are facinating to study….using the term “Noble Savage” to describe them is idiotic in my opinion. They were no more admirable in most ways than the morons that busily burned witches and cats in Europe. Understandable for their time perhaps…..not worthy of modern consideration except as a truly interesting study topic.

    You’ll have to excuse me now…..I have to strip, paint myself blue, and go worship trees.

    Semper Fi

  10. Unregistered Comment by Aethilgar UNITED STATES

    First, allow me to say that I’m a new and, thus far, infrequent poster on your rather straight shooting blog. A day does not go by when I’m not tuned in here to touch bases with like minded individuals. Being a ‘beltway insider’ type fellow, it does tend to keep the insanity at bay. I thank you for that and the opportunity to participate in your discussions.

    Second, PFC Krondax, I would not hold your breath on having your comments posted over at “Madam Mim’s” site; much as I am sure they would be insightful… or… perhaps… inciteful (if I may butcher the language for the sake of humor), as they case may be!

    You see, something that is common throughout every post on Mim’s site (yes, I did go through every single post… mea maxima culpa); and that’s “No Comments”. 10 posts… none of them with reader comments. It stands to reason that “Mim” is simply another leftist who wants to be listened to but not debated. You see, reason often gets in the way of their thought processes. Proof, documentation, evidence are foes to many leftist positions. Another case of ‘free speech… as long as I’m the only one talking’. And thus Mim tells us quite loudly her worth.

  11. Unregistered Comment by LC Xealot UNITED STATES

    A culture that routinely slaughters it’s own people, or all the conquered peoples, cannot sustain itself for long. It also loses out on innovation and self-improvement. That’s the flaw of most MesoAmerican civilizations. In the ancient Eurasian world, a conqueror typically assimilated the conquered into the new nation, and kept any useful ideas or systems of government from the old one. The West is not a unified culture going down through history, but rather a loose grouping of some of the best traits of many cultures which it came into contact with. As a result of this the “West” was never really “one” nation at any given time with the possible extreme exception of the Roman Empire.

    Rome is a great case-in-point. Rather than slaughter and consume the conquered Greeks, the Romans assimilated much of Greek culture into their own, actually strengthening their own culture. The Greeks had, themselves, done the same thing to the Persian Empire when the Macedonians under Alexander conquered the Persian domains. The West has always practiced this form of cultural transmission, and while it does not always succeed (The Dark Ages were the result of the partial mix of Roman and Barbarian cultures, which was a negative event), it is usually a source of strength for the West. Most other cultures tend to be isolationist (China, Japan), conservative (Islam) or self-destructive (Aztecs, Mayans) and thus lose out on the cultural transmission factor.

    Ironically this is, for the first time, becoming a source of significant weakness for the West. We are trained to respect other cultures’ because we are apt to take the best features from them… and now much of the rest of the world is using that respect against us.

    So in summary it is the rapid ability of the West to accept new ideas.. even when they originate from other cultures.. that has been our strong suit. The ability of MesoAmerican civilizations to wipe out and consume other cultures (literally and figuratively) turned out to be it’s great weakness. So regardless of whether one argues the noble savages point, the culture was ultimately doomed to extinguish itself with little or no external assistance once the supply of enemies wore thin.

  12. Kristopher Comment by Kristopher UNITED STATES

    The dark ages were the result of barbarians conquering Rome.

    Yea … I would call that a “negative event”. The standard of living for the average person went from early Victorian levels down to late neolithic, without the nutritional benefits of being dispersed hunter-gatherers. Just plain nasty … and it took a millennium to come anywhere near recovery.

  13. Unregistered Comment by LC Xealot UNITED STATES

    Very true Kristopher, at least in the western half of the Empire.

    The Eastern Half, of course, continued with varying fortunes and semi-decent civilization all the way into the early Renaissance period. It’s dissolution and conquest at the hands of the Turks caused most of their surviving nobility, scholars and merchants to “respread” culture to the West. Since most of them wound up in Italy, that’s where the Renaissance began.

    That’s about what it took for recovery to really start in earnest. It also bears mentioning that the Romans, believing as we do now, that the Barbarians were worthy of respect… ultimately became their prey. At any time prior to around 450AD, a dedicated ruler could have restored the legions and driven the invaders back with relative ease. The barbarians were fierce fighters, but had no discipline and could be easily defeated by a trained, disciplined and properly led force.

    The same can be said for the West’s current situation. We have the power to eliminate the barbarians at the gates… but we just don’t bother using it. I have to wonder why when history makes it clear what happens when you do nothing.

  14. LC 0311 crunchie Comment by LC 0311 crunchie UNITED STATES

    So there you have it: The poor, peaceful lambs, the innocent naifs of the Mayan Empire were driven to their institutionalized excesses by rampant capitalism, environmental abuse and global climate change. IT WASN’T THEIR FAULT! THEY WERE MADE TO DO IT!

    Haliburton has been around that long? Wow!

    No time to add to the intellectual side of the thread. Besides, I may be a little out of my league after reading Xealot and Kristopher’s comments.

    Aethilgar welcome to the Rott sir!

  15. Unregistered Comment by LC Staci GBOR UNITED STATES

    Xealot, excellent post!

  16. Unregistered Comment by Aethilgar UNITED STATES

    Why, thank you, crunchie!

    It’s good to be here.

  17. Unregistered Comment by Roger Glass UNITED STATES

    A website that you guys may find interesting is Larry Auster’s View from the Right (http://amnation.com/vfr/). LC Zealot in particular might have some interesting debates with Auster.

  18. LC Guido Cabrone Comment by LC Guido Cabrone UNITED STATES

    So call me a “culturist”

    Or, possibly, a “Tribalist”? Although I suppose that the Mayans were a little too widespread to be called a “tribe”.

    On the other hand, considering that the Tutsis cover large areas of Rhodesia, (oh, excuse me, “Zimbabwe”), and they are considered to be a “tribe”…

  19. sig94 Comment by sig94 UNITED STATES

    Gunny saith:

    Whereas they did indeed accomplish many amazing things, and the ruins(and their culture for that matter), are facinating to study….using the term “Noble Savage” to describe them is idiotic in my opinion.

    It’s all rubble. The ancient Egyptians, Greeks, Romans, Mayans, Axtecs … nothing but rubble. You can’t even trapse through the Phoenician rubble of Tyre as Alexander the Great dumped the entire city into the Mediterrean. The EPA would have his ass for that.

    And that’s where we’re headed. They’ll be reading and laughing about us in a few hundred years and poking through the detritus of our civilization and finding old X-Box’s, condons, diapers and enema bags. And the tires. For crying out loud, will someone please figure out a way to get rid of the Goodyears?

  20. AyUaxe Comment by AyUaxe UNITED STATES

    The peculiar tone, like reverence, in the fisked comment is pretty disturbing, yet instructive in just how wack cultural/moral relativists really are. They can respect ancient barbarity as (read with misty lowered voice) “an important part of Mayan culture” and dismiss remarkably similar modern barbarity as important expressions of pisslamic culture or whatever. It’s a bad, bad sickness. What’s needed is a little perspective–we’re talking archaeology and fiction (a nutcase’s fiction at that) here. The mayans did build some cool buildings and I think they made a good calendar or something and sort of discovered calculus, and maybe consorted with space aliens, but it was all lost for reasons not really known or knowable because it was so long ago. I don’t see the point in judging some ancient, barbaric people’s mass psychosis to decide if the people, in general, were noble in any acceptable sense. I suspect that, like people in most cultures and times, a lot of the common people were pretty noble and a lot of the nobility were pretty much assholes. Basically, me versus Ted Kennedy, time tripped from pre-historic Yucatan or some 13th C scotsman versus King Edward (crap, where did that reference come from–oh, yeah, he’s not only an anti-semite, he’s artistically one-trick pony) I can, though, recognize that their acts of violence were inherently evil and in some sense probably or should have led to their destruction. I will exercise discernment in regard to what is going on now and in recorded history, though, ’cause I’d rather not have my blood-line end up like the maya. I can glean from the mayan story that people are capable of almost unimaginably horrible things in service of false beliefs and giant egos. Mohammed gave a refresher course, before anyone knew about the maya. We must call evil in any time what it is–evil, bad, target.

  21. Nanashi Comment by Nanashi UNITED STATES

    Actually, Kristopher, you’d be surprised. Mediaeval archaeology is a relatively new field, but what discoveries have been made hints that the “Dark Ages” were anything but. The sacking of Rome may have been a turning point, but it didn’t throw technology back to neolithic standards. And while the burning of Alexandria was a serious hit, at least a good portion of that work was preserved by the Irish. (Yes, I have to pimp my ancestors yet again)

    The times were as brutish as any other, really. Not any better or any worse than, say, Japan’s Mediaeval period.

  22. Unregistered Comment by Beemer UNITED STATES

    Looks like my post caused a bit of a disturbance here. Well, if you want to read my response look at my new post. Have fun :smile_wp:

  23. Deathknyte Comment by Deathknyte UNITED STATES

    Not much of a disturbance Beemer.

  24. Michael Comment by Michael UNITED STATES

    A disturbance?

    If you call laughing at the retard a disturbance..I guess so.

  25. Unregistered Comment by LC Xealot UNITED STATES

    Nanashi, the standard of living depended greatly on where you were in the Dark Ages. In Visigothic Spain, the Roman system continued more or less intact up into the early 8th century when the Muslims invaded. Also within the original boundaries of the Eastern Empire, the standard of living actually greatly increased due to the immense wealth and population shift flowing to Constantinople.

    However in Britain, the Anglo-Saxon invasion caused a complete collapse of Romano-British civilization, and in Gaul the Franks allowed the whole Roman System to collapse. In Italy, the Gothic Wars of the 6th century (ironically due to a resurgence and attempted reconquest by the East Roman Empire) destroyed the Italian economy. Before any recovery was begun by the Eastern Empire, the Lombards tore the country apart into petty warring dukedoms and remnants of Roman territory. Italy would not even begin to recover from this blow until the 13th century.

    Finally the collapse of the Eastern Empire’s outlying regions due to Muslim invasion in the East and Slav invasion North more or less destroyed any ability of the Roman Empire to re-assert itself. By the 9th century, even though Charlemagne presided over a supposedly revived Empire, little was left of the old Roman world. Peasants were firmly enslaved to their lands, feudalism was well established and the average person lived in what was essentially a mud hut.

    Civilization and high standards of living did continue to exist in some regions, specifically in the remains of the East Roman (Byzantine) Empire and the few parts of Italy to escape Lombard and Frankish domination (Venice and Genoa in particular, but there were others). A few other areas maintained some semi-civilized societies, such as the city-states of Dalmatia (Ragusa, Zara, etc…). And it also bears mentioning that while the AVERAGE standard of living was very low… the standard of living for High Nobility was still decent by comparison to the old Roman World.

  26. Kristopher Comment by Kristopher UNITED STATES

    Exactly.

    Civilization survived where the old Roman/Greek culture survived.

    Where the barbs won completely, Roman Citizens went from being citizens of a nearly modern republic to being serfs wholly owned by violent thugs.

    Does this process seem familiar? It has already happened in Africa … colonial administrations leave … to be replaced by local thugs who steal everything not nailed down and end up en-serfing the people living there to maintain their own high lifestyles once there is nothing left to steal.

  27. Unregistered Comment by LC Xealot UNITED STATES

    The irony is that the Roman Empire always had the ability to crush the barbarian invaders if it just made the decision to do so. This was aply demonstrated when a vastly outnumbered Roman army was led into North Africa by Belisarius during the reign of Justinian. The Vandal kingdom which had sacked Rome so brutally was conquered in a few weeks. The Ostrogoths, who were by this time partly Romanized, were a tougher nut to crack, but they still fell to Justinian’s legions. Both kingdoms were so completely defeated by the Romans that their entire peoples wound up disappearing shortly thereafter.

    We should be taking this lesson to heart in current events, such as Iraq.