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Anti-Idiotarian Rottweiler » Hopeful Signs?

No, His Imperial Jadedness hasn’t gone Kumbaya all of a sudden, but developments such as this one (thanks to a tip from LC Joe Dromedary) are exactly the kind of developments that he’s been shouting for for five long years now, so he will not let them passed unnoticed, whether they turn out to be nothing but phantasms or not.

If it turns out to be yet another manifestation of taqiyyah, then we’ll deal with that later. For now, we wish to encourage it, not the opposite.

Dozens of Danish Muslims are joining the network of moderate Muslims, the Demokratiske Muslimer (Democratic Muslims). About 700 Muslims have already become DM members and 2,500 Danes have expressed their will to support the network. The initiative has caused anger among the Danish imams and their leader, Ahmad Abu Laban, who have referred to the moderates as “rats.”

…and anybody called “rats” by that syphilitic sewer rat Ahmad are automatically Friends of the Empire. We can think of few higher honors than to be thusly “insulted” by the diseased dregs of humanity.

The imams feel that they are beginning to lose their control over part of the Muslim population.

…and victory will come when they feel that they’re losing control of their bowels as well, right before the ropes around their scrawny necks choke them to death while laughing children point their fingers at them and dance in the streets.

Moderates such as Kamran Tahmasebi say they have had enough of fanatic Islamism and its intimidation of the Muslim immigrants in Denmark. “It is an irony that I am today living in a European democratic state and have to fight the same religious fanatics that I fled from in Iran many years ago,” Mr Tahmasebi says. He came to Denmark as a refugee in 1989. Today he works as a social consultant and is very grateful for the life Denmark has made it possible for him to have.

Spoken like someone who truly understands what is at stake here. You can either fight and possibly die alongside your new countrymen or you’ll find yourself in the same medieval shithole that you once upon a time managed to escape from in search of a better life.

He says he no longer wants to keep a low profile to avoid attracting the attention of the imams. The cartoon affair was an incentive for him to stand up and warn against the Islamist imams in Denmark, whom he says are damaging the integration process with their misleading criticism of Danish values and norms.

It looks like the cartoon kerfuffle has led to something more than pointing out to everybody except for the wilfully obtuse what this is all about. Finally, some of those former quiescent “moderates” have reached the point where they understand that the train is about to leave the station.

Of course, it is much too soon to plan celebrations yet, but wouldn’t it be ironic if the publication of a dozen drawings managed to become a turning point after years of terrorism? On the other hand, every avalanche begins with a trickle. No matter what, we support Mr. Tahmasebi, because whether or not he and his fellow moderates manage to turn the tide, their attitude is exactly what we’ve been waiting for.

Mr Tahmasebi is one of the people involved in the newly established network of moderate Muslims in Denmark led by Naser Khader, a member of the Danish Parliament. He says he is well aware of the risk he is taking by siding with Mr Khader, who has for a long time been living under police protection. But Mr Tahmasebi feels it is his duty to take part in this debate. “Naser Khader has carried this responsibility for too long. I share his beliefs and now I want to stand up and say so. Apart from that, as a parent I feel a responsibility to fight, so that my children will not have to live under Islamist dogmas. They shall be able to live free in this country.” Mr Tahmasebi adds that he believes the imams are one of the biggest problems Denmark is facing today.

People like Mr. Tahmasebi are the future of Islam.

If it is to have one at all.

13 Responses to “Hopeful Signs?”
  1. Unregistered Comment by JonB UNITED STATES

    This could be interesting. It would certainly show the extremists for who they are if they start to kill members of their own religion because some of them suddenly wake up and recognize that violence is getting them nowhere.

  2. Unregistered Comment by Stephen UNITED STATES

    You know all this still comes down to the will of one man.

    Chimpy McHitlerburton - in ‘01 started making everyone show their cards. Still going strong.

  3. Unregistered Comment by habbs

    Not to be a wet blanket, but maybe he’s just afraid of his people getting kicked out of Europe. The Euros are tolerant to a fault, but they’re not made of stone. If enough people start getting killed, residents without citizenship will be deported to country of origin.

  4. Emperor Darth Misha I Comment by Emperor Darth Misha I UNITED STATES

    Maybe, habbs, and I share your skepticism.

    Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice… You know the rest.

    However, I’ll continue to encourage and welcome hopeful signs.

    But always be prepared for betrayal. And act accordingly in response to it, should it show its ugly face.

    For upright enemies — death.

    For traitors — worse.

  5. Unregistered Comment by fred UNITED STATES

    There are 1.5 billion Muslins. When a thousand turn out in a heavily Muslim country to burn an embassy, it makes me wonder how they are able to leverage that into such power. I suppose it would be wrong to encourage CIA Black Ops against radical Imans.

  6. Unregistered Comment by waltj

    Intimidation, Fred, intimidation. That’s a big part of how the extremist imams gain such power. That, plus better funding from places like Saudi Arabia than the moderates often get. Moderate Muslims generally want to play by the rules of normal society, but the extremists recognize no rules but their own. After all, they think, they’ve been appointed by Allah to impose Islam (their version) upon an unwilling world, so the ends justify the means (where have we heard this before…hmm, oh yeah, thanks, Karl and Vladimir). Through this intimadation and financial strength, the extremists are able to take over mosques and demand that local Muslims toe the line, or face what can be very severe consequences. To counter this, people like MP Khader and Mr. Tahmasebi should be encouraged, given a platform to speak, and, if necessary, protected. Muslims need to hear from them, because this is where the reform of Islam will come from, if it is to happen.

  7. Blackiswhite Comment by Blackiswhite UNITED STATES

    So the enemy of my enemy is my freind?

    Nice if true, but with deception a tenant of ‘the faith’, this will bear much closer scrutiny.

  8. Unregistered Comment by timmareng

    I agree with Mein Imperator - ABOUT FRIGGIN’ TIME!!!

  9. SoCalOilMan Comment by SoCalOilMan UNITED STATES

    “Naser Khader has carried this responsibility for too long. I share his beliefs and now I want to stand up and say so. Apart from that, as a parent I feel a responsibility to fight, so that my children will not have to live under Islamist dogmas. They shall be able to live free in this country.”

    Now we need to see a moderate muslim in this country find their cajones and take the same stand.

    Perhaps they thought CAIR would be their mouthpiece, but they should realize by now that CAIR is the same as the imans. Just mention Islam without bringing up “it’s a peaceful religion” and they are at your throat and threatening lawsuits.

    I applaud Mr. Tahmasebi and hope he lives long enough to inspire others to stand up against the radicals. :thumbup:

  10. THANOS Comment by THANOS UNITED STATES

    :noshake: i dont know, im still doubtfull of any Muslim offer of peace and mutual understanding…it could be nothing more than a carefully thought out ploy to confuse the West even more than we are now….ill believe it when hundreds of thousands of Muslims march in the streets of Britain, Europe and the ME and say that they denounce terrorism and that they DEMAND that the imams shut their filthy mouths and that their “leaders” do the same and than force them to make a lasting peace and denounce IN PUBLIC terrorism and the violent sections of their so called Holy Quran…than and only than will i trust Muslims and put my hate, disgust and scorn for them aside….a dozen, and hundred, means nothing, its NO WAY near good enough….ive said it to Misha before, that if the Muslims can get thousands and thousands together for their little hate marches for the entire world to see, than if the rest of the so called peacefull “moderate” Muslims who are “supposedly” the majority of the Muslims population, can organize a march for peace and denounce the MUSLIM terrorists, maybe, just maybe their is a chance for peace…till than, ill remain very prejudice against Muslims and Islam

  11. maxxdog Comment by maxxdog UNITED STATES

    Thanos, I understand how you feel but we need to offer the hand of friendship to Muslims, especially those in positions of power and influence who speak out against terror and for peace, so their example can be seen by the rest.In the other hand however, should be a loaded weapon!
    Personally, I still think we will have to whack about half the bastards before this is over but that’s just my cynical self.

  12. MegaTroopX Comment by MegaTroopX UNITED STATES

    How much you wanna bet they’re democratic like Democrats are democratic :lol: ?

    I’ll believe they’re not taqqiya :poison: when I see it with consistancy.

    :megaman:

  13. Unregistered Comment by Y2DRAY CANADA

    How can I spell this out with respect to moderate Muslims?

    What is a moderate muslim, IMNSHO?

    Just admit it.Usually, Islam is inherently triumphalist.Dissenting voices would say the same for other faiths.As per usual, most faiths have progressed.Islam is the last to change.Since its followers have access to technology, why not?Maybe there is hope after all.

    Moderate, non-triumphalistic Islam? It’s possible. But it wouldn’t be Islam anymore, would it?

    Then again, I may be very wrong…

    Yankee Two Delta