Welcome To The 21st Century, Same As The 7th
Posted by: Emperor Misha I in Blogs and Blogging, Religion of Pus11:31 pm
By all means, don’t miss LC & IB Devil’s Kitchen’s excellent rant from which I’ve shamelessly stolen the link. But I assume that you already know better than to miss out on a dose of ass-kicking from our Ragin’ Scotsman.
Like him, His Majesty at times finds himself wondering if it wouldn’t have been better for us to just build a 60 foot wall around the Religion of Pus-infested countries of the world and just fill ‘em up with water. Or acid, but water’s cheaper.
Weren’t we supposed to help bring those ignorant imbeciles into the 21st century or, failing that, at the very least past the 15th? I mean, wasn’t that the point of going in as opposed to just increasing their background radiation suddenly and dramatically?
Then how to explain this example of medieval, mohammedan malignancy?
An Afghan man who recently admitted he converted to Christianity faces the death penalty under the country’s strict Islamic legal system. The trial is a critical test of Afghanistan’s new constitution and democratic government.
Congratulations, you Kamelhumping Klusterfucks, you failed. Once again you don’t miss an opportunity to show the civilized world what a bunch of clue-deprived, cave-dwelling knuckleheads you are. Test over, culture failed, open the trapdoor and hit the “Reset” button.
The case is attracting widespread attention in Afghanistan, where local media are closely monitoring the landmark proceedings.
Wouldn’t want to miss a beheading, would you?
Abdul Rahman, 40, was arrested last month, accused of converting to Christianity.
And there you have it. There is absolutely NO fucking point in talking about “test case” anymore when an indictment like that can be taken seriously by the “courts” of a country. No, it’s not about Christianity either. I don’t give a pimple on Michael Moore’s abnormally gigantic ass what particular religion the man converted to, the fact remains that this man is in court, facing the death penalty, FOR NOT WANTING TO BE A MUSLIM.
I don’t want any part of a culture like that. I don’t want to tolerate it, try to understand it or even share a fucking planet with it. Game over. End of story.
Under Afghanistan’s new constitution, minority religious rights are protected but Muslims are still subject to strict Islamic laws.
And so, officially, Muslim-born Rahman is charged with rejecting Islam and not for practicing Christianity.
And that’s the new “constitution” that we sacrificed blood and treasure for? Fuck them. Bomb them all to shit, then bomb them again so I can watch the rubble bounce while wiping tears of laughter from my eyes.
And if you think it’s already ridiculous, just wait. It gets worse.
Appearing in court earlier this week Rahman insisted he should not be considered an infidel, but admitted he is a Christian.
He says he still believes in the almighty Allah, but cannot say for sure who God really is. “I am,” he says, “a Christian and I believe in Jesus Christ.”
Rahman reportedly converted more than 16 years ago after spending time working in Germany.
See?
16 fucking years ago, this man decided, while living in Germany, to become a Christian. That would be roughly 12 years before this new “constitution” that the tumblefucked towelheads are currently busy trying to have him murdered according to even existed, by the way.
Officials say his family, who remain observant Muslims, turned him over to the authorities.
Family values, koranimal style. The Nazis and the Commies would approve.
On Thursday the prosecution told the court Rahman has rejected numerous offers to embrace Islam.
Prosecuting attorney Abdul Wasi told the judge that the punishment should fit the crime.
Notwithstanding that there isn’t one, at least not according to any law of an actual civilized nation.
He says Rahman is a traitor to Islam and is like a cancer inside Afghanistan. Under Islamic law and under the Afghan constitution, he says, the defendant should be executed.
There’s a cancer inside Ashcanistan, alright, and we should probably accept full responsibility for the fact. After all, we’re the ones who stupidly decided on surgery rather than radiation therapy. But it’s not too late to have a second go at the tumor.
The court has ordered a delay in the proceedings to give Rahman time to hire an attorney.
How kind of them. In return, we pledge to exterminate them all as quickly and painlessly as we can.
Under Afghan law, once a verdict is given, the case can be appealed twice to higher courts.
This is the first case in which the defendant has admitted to converting and is refusing to back down, even while facing the death penalty.
If convicted, the case could ultimately force President Hamid Karzai’s direct intervention.
The president would have to sign the papers authorizing Rahman’s execution, a move that could jeopardize Mr. Karzai’s standing with human rights groups and Western governments.
So far, President Karzai has not commented on the case.
But political analysts here in Kabul say he will be under significant pressure from the country’s hard-line religious groups to make an example of Rahman.
How about we start making examples of those hard-line adherents to the “Religion of Peace (My Ass)?”
Because I’ve fucking well had it with “respecting” their religion and culture, particularly since it’s pretty damn obvious to anybody with the merest smidgen of human decency and intelligence that there is absolutely nothing, zero, zilch, nada, bopkes to “respect.”
Since they obviously won’t let us drag them out of the caves, we should just roll a few thermonuclear devices in there and roll a huge fucking rock in front of the entrance.
Savage, sadistical, shit-eating, subhuman scum.
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We’ll have to see how it turns out. If he is acquitted or such, I’ll give them a break. It’s not like we haven’t had some pretty f–ked up legal cases in our own country [anything involving the ACLU comes to mind], if the Afghan legal system works like it should, he won’t be harmed.
Otherwise, rolling nuclear bombardment is the only option.
March 20th, 2006 at 12:24 amThe folowing website addresses the problem of Islam very well.
http://www.faithfreedom.org/
It’s run by an apostate Muslim, an Iranian who goes by the pseudonym Ali Sina. His premise is that Islam is a cult that turns good people crazy, and makes them do horrible things. His goal is to make Muslims see that Islam is evil, and to convince them to renounce it, for their sake and ours.
March 20th, 2006 at 12:44 amAn inspired and highly amusing - in a tragic kind of way - fisking, as usual, Your Highness. And cheers for the linkage…
DK
March 20th, 2006 at 5:04 amReligion of Tolerance ™, my ass.
March 20th, 2006 at 7:00 amI wonder if they have a Colosseum with some lions standing around……..?
March 20th, 2006 at 7:36 amDarth Misha….although I completely agree with your assessments and opinions of these 7th century “koranimals”…a point to ponder and debate is this. If we describe ourselves as “Christians”, or “Christian thinking” persons….than I (admittedly unfortunately) cannot agree with the method(s) of extermination you offer up…can’t see it as a “Christian” solution….what do you think?
March 20th, 2006 at 8:39 amCookie, people who describe themselves as Christians still want to live. Christianity is NOT a suicide pact. It is no secret that followers of a certain death cult (islam) have vowed to exterminate infidels. Thus, response with overwhelming force to such a threat is not only fair, it is morally imperative. I am so sick of seeing Western values being used against Westerners by the savage scum who have no values. Western values only apply to civilized human beings. A murderous savage, by definition, has renounced his right to be considered human.
March 20th, 2006 at 8:52 amPrincess Natasha…point VERY well taken…in fact I used to teach Police Recruits in the Academy that when a person intends to kill you (or another human being), he or she has “temporarilly” suspended their “Right to live”…at least for that moment in time….thus justifying the use of Deadly Physical Force.. and I also don’t disagree with what you say regarding their intentions regarding “infidels”…however…the best leaders in this world, and throughout history…led by example…and in this case (with the exception of immediate self protection)…maybe some “restraint” might just be in order…do you see where I am coming from….?
March 20th, 2006 at 9:02 amPope Benedict, God bless him, is apparently trying to rehabilitate the Crusades, after many years of PC treatment by the Church.
Vatican change of heart over ‘barbaric’ Crusades
March 20th, 2006 at 9:06 amIn responce to LibraryGryffon…unfortunately I am not as extremely well versed on this time in history as you obviously are….but I ask this question…in the end…after ALL the Crusades…who won?
March 20th, 2006 at 9:14 amHello….if anyone is still there…I must take my Wolf-Dog for a walk….you don’t say no to a Wolf!! Be back in a bit……
March 20th, 2006 at 9:39 amWell, Cookie, that one is hard to answer.
Technically speaking, of course, the Crusaders lost since the Holy Land was ultimately re-taken by the hordes.
On the other hand many argue, myself included, that the Crusades were hard enough of a kick in the nads to Muhammed’s followers that their conquest of Europe, centuries later, failed. It certainly bought civilization some time and breathing space.
As to your other question: Restraint is something you show when your enemy or part of him shows some promise of being salvagable and redeemable or when lesser means might achieve the necessary goal, thus making his complete destruction unnecessary.
If you start off against a barbaric enemy with showing restraint, all you’ll get is him laughing in your face and ridiculing your “weakness”, which is how such an enemy views kindness.
But even so, you don’t have to wipe out such an enemy to utterly defeat him. What you have to do, however, is to make him understand and know for a fact that you are capable as well as willing to completely and unrestrictedly wipe him out if you decide that you have to.
Example from history: Vlad the Impaler didn’t have to wipe out every muslim soldier in the world to stop them. All he had to do was to impale the ones he caught without exception and the rest suddenly “lost interest.”
Again: Unrestricted warfare is sometimes necessary, although it’s most certainly never desirable.
March 20th, 2006 at 9:47 amCookie wrote (March 20, 2006 @ 8:39 am):
Kudos. I find it very hard to keep the teachings of Christ firmly in mind when I read about the latest outrage committed by members of the “religion of peace”, and I’m grateful that you put in this reminder. I regret to say that I’ll still have fantasies about turning the entire muslim world into one big glass parking lot, however…
As far as Abdul Rahman is concerned, we ought to pray for him as he is facing the sternest possible test of faith, and may well walk the path of martyrs like Saint Stephen, Saint James, Saint Peter, and so many others who were tortured and died for their faith in Christ. May God bless him.
And I can’t resist: this is a difference between Christian martyrs and muslim “martyrs” that I doubt will ever be fully explored by the media: Christians martyrs die for their faith. Muslim “martyrs” believe in taking as many other people as possible with them.
March 20th, 2006 at 9:57 amBack from taking the She-Wolf out….first off…Misha…Count Dracul certainly had the right idea…show your enemy what you are willing and capable of doing…it certainly plays hell with their psychie and the willingness to continue…Could Not agree with you more…..and you VERY correct that “Unrestricted Warfare” is not desired….its a last resort…but lets look the person this debate is all about….he professes Christianity and is NOT blowing himself up or attacking his antagonists….he’s practicing Christianity…not talking about it…doing it. And Docjim505…I also…on a daily bases…wrestle with the “desire” to…as you stated so profoundly…want to turn the entire area into “a glass parkinglot…that is my desire…but my “spirituality” is on the other shoulder whispering in my ear…”no…no…calm down…think this out a little bit… Most of us tell out children “Violence solves nothing”….but do we actually practice it……?
March 20th, 2006 at 10:10 amMisha….just an added thought…as a “Street Cop”…I quickly learned that showing compassion or restraint as I stated earlier…was…more times than not…taken for weakness…but because I was “under-estimated”…I creamed em when the fun began…that was the best part about “restraint”….
March 20th, 2006 at 10:25 amWell Gentlemen…and ladies…in as much as I must prepare for Doctors appointment I will be …..takin my leave I will. I saw this as a good opportunity to sharpen me rusty cutlass, dry out me powder and stretch m’legs in juicy anticipation for our next “raid” on one a them thar liberal-ass Shehan types…..farewell fer now Matey’s…I’ll be catch’n up with yur ships downwind I will…..
March 20th, 2006 at 10:43 amIf showing restraint results, as it almost certainly will, in further provocations and deaths in the West, then “restraint” does, in fact, confer some culpability in those deaths and suffering that could have been averted with an unmistakable show of force.
And no, I’m not a Jesuit.
March 20th, 2006 at 10:47 amI have said many times that freedom as I understand freedom and Islam are not compatable. For that matter freedom and the Christian right wing are not compatable either–recent bills that are up before the Missouri legislature to enforce Christian morality are an example. To be free..truly free one must reject the idea that one must force personal morality on anyone. If the moral standards are that great I suspect the standards will be adopted by most voluntarily and would not have to be forced by law. It is about control and has damn little to do with worship.
March 20th, 2006 at 10:52 amokay, i disagree with you Cookie, bigtime…violence solves nothing, thats alot of bullshit, sorry..maybe not always, but there are times when you meet violence with violence…you say you used to teach police recruits, so im guessing you may have also been a police officer out on the streets..okay, my father, now retired these, oh, 15 years i think, was a County Police Officer for 36 years and he would come home many a nite for supper and would tell his family what happened that day or nite..now in those 36 years he drew his gun many times but only actually had to shoot three{thats 3} criminals as they refused to either halt as ordered or to drop the weapon they held…violence had to be used against violence..it was either my father or the criminal…now, on many other occasions he didnt have time to draw his gun or felt it wasnt needed that my father used his physical strength to wrestle the criminal to the ground and arrest them…again, its violence used against violence…now my father always would yell out for the criminal to stop, put their hands up, lay down, whatever, but MOST, not all, of the criminals he dealt with did not submit easily to the demands of an officer of the law, and we are talking about youre every day, on the street average criminal, be they drug dealers, gang members, muggers, etc…and you can see how hard they will fight…now, go to Afghanistan, Iraq, anywhere in the ME..who and what are we fighting???…terrorists who have some sort of military training{ as sad as it may be compared to training that the Marines, or SEAL units go threw} and are religious fanatics willing to kill infidels as well as die themselves…rather big difference between ordinary street thugs and terrorists isnt it???…I hope you understand what i am trying to say here as my time is short….lol, and to the other AIR’s who mentioned my way of commenting here, i cant remember what you guys told me to use so im very sorry about this blocky comment..if yus could, please remind me next time you see me on the Instant Bark..thanks and once again sorry
March 20th, 2006 at 10:54 amOfficer Cookie sez:
jaybear sez: First off, thanks for all of your street time Cookie, very much appreciated and I’m glad that you came out of it safe and sound.
Secondly, There are a lot of comparisons between the Crusades and the current war on terror. What caused the failure of almost all of the crusades was the squabbling among the parties involved as to who was in charge and what the goals were. Every king who mustered an army for the crusades seemed to have a different goal in mind (once they got out of sight of the Pope who ordered the Crusade). With no unified force or strategy, and no consolidation of forces the muslim armies could usually pick off the armies piecemeal. The Crusaders often adopted the strategy of holing up in fixed fortifications/cities like Acre and Krak de Chevalier(sp), once the had partially achieved their aims, instead of being a mobile fast moving force pursuing the remnants of it’s defeated enemy.
That’s what concerns me about the current war. With obstructionist “allies” like Germany, France, and Russia, and Pakistan etc etc…we’re presenting the radical islamists with the same opportunity to pick us off one by one. We hole up in Afghanistan and Iraq, launching small raids here and there while they chip away at us in our fixed bases. If we, as a civilization, don’t learn from the mistakes of the Crusades, and if we don’t start to take this threat to our existence very seriously, then I fear that all we are doing is engaging in the 7th and doomed (again) Crusade.
We need to remember the lessons of history, and not repeat them
March 20th, 2006 at 11:03 amThe Defendant is a hero. Germany or Canada should offer him asylum, but of course they won’t.
March 20th, 2006 at 11:04 amArrrr…Doctors office called and re-scheduled my appointment….good says I. Now…first off…Mr. Thanos…all the situations you described in regards to your good father….I’ve experienced…with two exceptions….I used my weapon….twice…wasn’t pretty and you don’t get used to it. Justified…absolutely….guilt over it…not a lick..AND…I agree (more or less) with the good Mr. Bluto….but again….I return back to my original points as stated earlier….walk softly…but carry a big stick (Mr. Teddy)….use the force when, and if you must…but set the example of “Christian” thinkin…I know this a hard position to defend (or promote)…but maybe…just maybe…its worth a try…..
March 20th, 2006 at 11:11 am…and Thank You Mr. Jaybear for your kind thought and consideration…
March 20th, 2006 at 11:14 amMr. Jaybear made a point which was lost on me for a few moments…but suddenly hit me. He stated that the “goals” of the Crusader’s became blurred…thus defeat…so true! Now…for the most part…the people in this debate are mostly, somewhat or completely “conservative”…but we are divided as to “method”….maybe not the goals themselves…but the method to achieve our goals….maybe we outta keep an eye on that as well…..what d’y'all think….
March 20th, 2006 at 11:29 amCall me a bigot call me a racist(is Islam a race?), but I stand by what I’ve always said, not one Christian or one US Soldier is worth losing to save these sick twisted sonsofislamic whores from their self appointed fate.
Fuck Em’
hOOt
March 20th, 2006 at 11:52 amMR. Jaybear?…MR. Jaybear?????
Hell, I’m just a poor schoolteacher/contractor Cookie, just call me jaybear my friend and welcome to the Rott.
Regarding your point on method vs. goals. I stated in an earlier thread that I think that the Bush administration has plain lost interest in this endeavor. If you listen to Rumsfeld or Bush or Rice, they spout out the talking points: “No Iraq is not in a civil war”, “Yes, there is progress in Iraq”, “Yes, we will find bin laden”, “terrorists are bad,we are good”, “Saudi Arabia is a valuable ally”….had to throw that last one in, but we get no ideas or plans from them anymore, just the same old tired drivel. If we really are out of ideas, then let’s do something else. I’m all for disabling (or threatening to do so) the oil industry over there, that would dry up the terrorist funds, dry up the Iran nuke funds, and perhaps wake up the rest of the world. If that happened, and we ended up paying 5-7 dollars a gallon…then so be it, ask the Greatest Generation about the sacrifices THEY made 60+ years ago. that kind of sacrifice just might toughen us up a little.
I don’t want to hear any more of that grey area droning from them, I want them to tell me what the hell they plan to do to win this thing, and then implement it…with lots of loud “booms”..not necessarily nuclear. If you polled ME on whether I thought Bush was doing a god job on the WOT, I’d be among the majority that said no. I’d say HELL NO….I support this mission 100%, I have some good friends over there in harms way, I want to see them come home intact and victorious….but I don’t support the way that Bush and co. are carrying out the mission. It puts my friends and their comrades in unnecessary peril. Give them a sound strategy and then cut those heroes loose to do the job Dammit!!
It just seems that whenever a President or his advisors run out of ideas in any military action, i.e. Johnson/Vietnam or Reagan/Lebanon or Clinton/Kosovo or UN/ANYWHERE…they fall back on hunkering down in fixed fortifications and waiting until an idea hits. I think that is what we are falling into now, and that really really concerns me.
better go, I’m gonna be late for school….see y’all later
March 20th, 2006 at 12:00 pmMarch 20th, 2006 at 12:01 pm
Couldn’t agree with ya more “Hoot”…read one of my earlier comments regarding teaching in the police academy or a couple of incidents I had on the street (as a cop)…..and your correct…parts of that verse may have been misinterpreted or misread….all I’m say’n is along the lines of “jaybear”, I think we need to realistically and politically re-think our position(s)…..
March 20th, 2006 at 12:12 pmBingo. Me too.
That’s why I don’t care a wet gopher’s ass about those polls claiming that falling approval ratings are indicative of failing support for the war.
There’s a reason why those useless pollsters never add the follow-up question “do you support the war?”
Yes, I support the war, to the hilt and all the way, no matter what we have to do to win it as long as we win.
NO, I don’t think Bush is doing a good job of it. As a matter of fact, I can’t think of a single fellow cadet way back when I wasn’t a grumpy old fart who couldn’t have done a better job without even trying hard.
I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again: Back in September of ‘01 when Bush got on top of that heap of rubble with a bullhorn, I’d have followed him through Hell and back armed with a pair of tweezers if necessary.
Sadly, he turned out to be a whole fucking lot of talk and precious little walk.
March 20th, 2006 at 12:13 pmOh, and as to my brand of Christianity:
“Do unto others before they do unto you” as well as:
“What would the Templars have done?”
March 20th, 2006 at 12:13 pmYupper Misha….ya took the wurds right outta me mouth ya did….Ditto twice…unfortunately many of the Templars were killed…deceitfully…and the rest went underground…perhaps to England or Scotland…but you hit it right on the head Misha…
March 20th, 2006 at 12:20 pmCookie, I asked someone at church one time regarding this. They led me to read David and compare him to Saul. It was the earnesty and honesty expressed by David that pleased God, not acts as displayed by Saul. Throughout the Bible, the one thing God keeps looking for is faith.
And there are many places throughout the Bible that call for war. People ask me how as a Christian can I believe in the death penalty, especially if such prisoner ‘got saved.’ You can get saved and forgiven by God, but certainly that does not meet you don’t deserve your punishment.
March 20th, 2006 at 12:23 pmThank you “LC”….first a clarification…I was agreeing with Misha regarding Bush’s handling of the war…and I also would have followed him though hell…primarily because of 9/11…I wasn’t agreeing with “do unto others only do it first”…( I still have a t-shirt with that on it)…These people certainly do deserve whatever justice they get…from Allah…God…or whatever Higher Power…but her on earth we should at least set an example…we talk about their savage ways but we shouldn’t emulate their way….AGAIN…yes…kick ass when needed…pull out all the stops…but before this action…demonstrate a Christian approach….
March 20th, 2006 at 12:32 pmI know you were agreeing with Misha. I should have addressed the original post. My bad. I was just relating a similar pondering I had. I come from a pretty long line of military and truly back the war and why we are there.
I would never expect the US to ever emulate their ways. I don’t even think we come close. And the fact we aren’t prosecuting someone for switching religion demonstrate’s a Christian approach. God was a jealous God in the Bible, but His followers did not wipe out every non-follower in his name. There was definitely a co-existence of beliefs back even before Christ that is well documented.
March 20th, 2006 at 12:38 pmGotta walk the Wolf again…her name is Czarina (Wolf/Samoyed mix)…be back shortly…..
March 20th, 2006 at 12:43 pmBack…anyone there….??
March 20th, 2006 at 12:56 pmWe can’t emulate their ways unless we cease to be Christians. We’re taught to love the sinner but hate the sin, and the only justification for eliminating the sinner is if his sin is a threat to others. A real threat. His deeds, not his beliefs. His soul and beliefs are a matter between him and G-d, his deeds are not.
We do not have to fight Islam because of the fact that they’re not Christians, we have to fight them because they will kill us if we don’t. No Christians are calling for a Crusade against Hindus, or did I miss a memo?
I don’t care who or what they believe in, that’s for them to iron out with Him. They don’t believe that Jesus Christ is the son of G-d. So what? Neither do the Jews, and I think it’s pretty well established that I have absolutely no problem whatsoever with our Jewish brothers and sisters.
Or how about homosexuals? Do they harm me or mine? Do they demand that I become a homosexual or have my head lopped off?
Of course they don’t, which is why it doesn’t matter to me how much what they’re doing is a sin according to my beliefs, I still don’t think that we should wage war on them or execute them. Give unto Caesar what is Caesar’s, and the fate of their immortal soul is none of my business.
But Islam isn’t just an issue between the individual and his Maker. Do we Christians call for conversion to our faith or death? Do we prosecute Christians who give up on the faith and convert? Do our laws call for their execution?
Of course not. If we did, I’d denounce my faith in a heartbeat, because I wouldn’t want any part of it.
If Islam would confine itself to the spiritual, if Islam would stop trying to force itself upon others on pain of death, then I’d have no physical problem with it. I’d still disagree with it, but that would be for G-d to deal with. He doesn’t need my help, nor does dealing with it fall inside of my jurisdiction.
I’m calling for a Crusade against the physical manifestations of that murderous “religion”, NOT against the faith itself.
Just as I would shoot an intruder in my home without giving a good damn about his religion.
In order to “emulate Islam”, I’d have to convince myself that his invasion of my home is secondary to his faith, indeed I’d have to shoot him in the back if he chose to flee, purely on “religious” grounds. I’d even have to hunt down his family and friends and kill them as well, just because they happened to share his faith, NOT because of any real threat to me or mine.
In other words, I’d have to become a muslim.
Destroying your enemy before he destroys you, particularly when he’s pointing a weapon at you and declaring his intentions to do so is not “un-Christian”, nor is it “emulating Islam.”
Failing to do so is idiotic.
March 20th, 2006 at 1:43 pmYou’re welcome and thanks too.
I just hope that nobody missed out on your beautiful evisceration of those tosspots.
March 20th, 2006 at 1:50 pmAgreed Emperor. 100%
March 20th, 2006 at 1:51 pmMisha….I see you got the same memo I did…
To: Cookie
From: God
Subject: I don’t need your help…but thanks anyway.
This in referance to your statement; “If Islam would confine itself to the spiritual, if Islam would stop trying to force itself upon others on pain of death, then I’d have no physical problem with it. I’d still disagree with it, but that would be for G-d to deal with. He doesn’t need my help, nor does dealing with it fall inside of my jurisdiction.”
I cannot disagree with your logic and prose….real question…where do you foresee this Iraq mess going from here….any thoughts?
March 20th, 2006 at 2:17 pmI’d like to think it’s going next door,, East or West.
There’s nothing to salvage from the religion of piss.
Vowing bloody vengeance on anyone who would attempt to work for freedom, they can’t be reasoned with.
They won’t be ready for civilization until they love their own children more than they hate the jewish children.
“Savage, sadistical, shit-eating, subhuman scum.”
March 20th, 2006 at 3:56 pmSire, you have severely insulted scum.
‘Spect it’ll grow a reasonable mind sooner than the rop’ers.
One of the problems with any discussion like this is the sweeping assumptions we tend to make when using the labels “Christian” and “Muslim.” We see the deeds of many people who call themselves Christians and say “no way” is that person a Christian. And we see the actions of professed atheists and say “now that’s a Christian thing to do.” Exactly what is a Christian?
Stasi is probably the one who came closest.
First and foremost, God is pleased by faith. We are saved by our faith in a Redeemer. Our actions then should comply with what we believe. And so it is written, Jesus said that if we love Him we will obey Him (Jn 14:15). Our faith and trust is what makes us Christians.
Because of this There are differences in how we react:
1) individually as Christians, and
2) corporately as a nation,
to provocation and threats.
Christians of the first, second and third centuries were very concerned about a good profession when they were martyred. They viewed their death as an act of worship; and so it was. Much was written by contemporary Romans about this and has been preserved for our edification.
The Romans had many gods including the Hebrew God. All nations conquered by the Romans were allowed to keep their religion, as long as they also paid homage to the Roman gods. Their religions were approved and temples were built with state funds; their priests were also allowed to make sacrifices and conduct rituals as they saw fit (for the most part).
The official Roman state religion deemed the emperor a god. Furthermore. it was considered treason, a capital crime, not to worship the emperor. To survive, one must at least pay lip service to the Roman gods.
What tore up the Roman’s togas, was that they considered Christianity merely a sect of Judaism, not a separate religion. They did not understand the theological differences and didn’t care. In many cases, all that was required for a Christian to avoid the death penalty was to take a pinch of incense and throw it into an altar fire. Many, if not most, Christians refused to do this and suffered the consequences of committing treason.
A second century Roman judge complained to a bunch of Christians about to be condemned in his court. He wondered aloud “Aren’t there enough bridges for you to throw yourselves from?” He regarded the whole affair as an elaborate suicide. And as long as many of those being executed were slaves (and many Christians were) not many people cared. Slaves poured in from outlying provinces, so many that their numbers caused great economic hardship for freemen and was one of the causes for “bread and circuses.” Of the roughly one million people who lived in the city of Rome at its height (5 BC), nearly half were salves.
Not until Emperor Constantine I was Christianity a legitimate religion. And even then there were troublesome times for Christians under the rule of some of his successors.
Islam handles Christinas much the same way. Many of the horrors inflicted upon Christians by Roman Emperors are in substance very similiar to Islamic atrocities. Islam views infidels much the same way. We do not obey the Sharia Law, much as Christinas would not obey the Roman gods. The recent events in Afghanistan draw us inexorably to this conclusion.
European nations were once comprised of mostly Christian souls; they resisted Islam as they rightly should. The Crusades were part of that struggle. Contrary to the myth of profiteering, many European nobility lost their entire fortunes in the Holy Land. King Richard the Lion Hearted nearly bankrupted his kingdom to save Jerusalem.
Christianity is no longer a major cultural force in Europe and the inroads by Islam into this formerly Christian bastion are deep.
Less than a hundred years (1683) before the American Revolution, Austria began to reverse the Islamic onslaught by the Ottoman Empire. Three hundred and twenty-two years later Europe is in danger again.
The same thing is happening in America. Unless we recognize these attacks for what they are, we will not muster the national will to resist. Pearl Harbor, the World Trade Center - it is all the same. It was a declaration of war.
March 20th, 2006 at 5:29 pmMisha you said this all so perfectly. I wish I could write like you do but thank God you have a blog and your heart and soul write for me.
You are right also about it is not about “Christian” it is about someone not wanting to be Muslim. People willprobably make a big deal about it because it is about a man turning to Christianity but that is just the icing on the cake. The meat of the problem and vileness is that Muslims, Islam will NEVER change we have to realize that. I do, you do, many others do too.But there is a whole world out there that still wants to refer to it as the religion of peace blah blah blah.
Again I thank you Misha with my whole heart, thank you for all you do.
March 20th, 2006 at 6:32 pmOfficer Cookie sez:
Jaybear sez:
I wouldn’t mind seeing it go west into Syria. I think that Iran would be too tough a nut to crack with a direct land invasion…unless our stated purpose was to occupy the oil fields and terminals and then stop. Any drive on Tehran would be very very costly. However, an internal revolt, properly supported might do the trick.
But to brutally honest, I think we are slowly veering toward another “peace with honor” scenario in Iraq. It seems that Bush and co. don’t have a clearcut strategy for victory. Our heroes over there are doing one hell of a great job, and I’m damned proud of them all. But the war is being lost here at home…this white house has a communication problem, they have never convincingly made the case for war….and the case is so goddamned obvious! The democrat traitors have owned the no WMD argument from the start. The white house never counters their lies nor do they trot out evidence like the recently translated saddam documents or satellite pictures showing trucks lined up at the weapons facilities right before the invasion. They never point to evidence that Hans “ignorance is” Blix got rolled by saddam and played for the fool that he is. They don’t lift a finger to refute the lies and make public the evidence…that convinces me that they have lost their motivation, they are looking to stop the hemorraging before the election, they are trying to stop the traitorous dems from gaining control of both houses and the presidency by blowing sunshine up all of our backsides with their stupid “oh…yes, we are winning” statements…..so tell me W, and Rummy, and Condi…are really winning???
PROVE IT!!!
show me the leveling of towns that are known terrorist strongholds…both in Iraq and any other craphole nation that harbors them. Show me more of…
this
every night, on all of the major networks and on al-jazeera. I want the world to see our eradication of these beasts, blast them to pieces…publicly… until the “moderate muslims” finally rise up and clean out their own gene pool.
I’ve gone to a military funeral for a local Marine killed over there, I have a good friend who was wounded over there. I still have friends over there. All I ask is for George Bush and co. to convince me that their efforts and sacrifice will not be in vain.
No more Vietnams?….goddamned straight, get your ass in gear W., fight it like you mean it.
March 20th, 2006 at 6:55 pmA heartfelt Amen, Jaybear….nothing else need be said.
March 20th, 2006 at 9:27 pmI concur completely Jaybear…I can also relate very personally to Vietnam…..well said Amigo…
March 20th, 2006 at 9:33 pmOfficer Cookie sez:
Christ a’ mighty Cookie, I hope you didn’t get any abuse when you got back. That happened to a friend of mine, he was in the Marines over there and got called a baby killer by a park ranger when he and I were fishing and camping after he got discharged. He restrained ME, I was trying to deck that ranger for saying that. He said that he was used to it and just shrugged it off…I couldn’t and still can’t, and I never want it to happen to our vets ever again.
March 20th, 2006 at 10:02 pmI simply think of a young, proud Marine named Joshua…my grunt friend…..go figure, a grunt and a squid…but we hit it off. When I heard of him being taken out by incoming I sat on deck, my heart in my hands…we used to talk about what kinds of trucks we wanted to get when we got out…….and all I could do was thank him and wonder why it wasn’t me…for he was the better man…..I remember the spitting too…to this day I carry a hatred of such people…I doubt if it will ever subside.
March 20th, 2006 at 10:08 pmHey Caveman,
That’s what will guarantee that kind of abuse never happening again….there’s too many of us who deeply resent that treatment of our vets. Thanks for your service my friend….us civvie types have your six.
March 20th, 2006 at 10:12 pmJaybear…yes…happened to this here Seabee…read my recollections in my post…”I agree with the ACLU…” Some good memories….
March 20th, 2006 at 11:12 pmAfghan Man Found His Brain and Might Loose His Head…
The fact is that this death cult is NOT a religion, it is just that a death cult. It really does not matter that the man turned to Christianity at all. He could have decided to worship at the feet of Mickey Mouse….
March 21st, 2006 at 12:25 amOfficer Cookie sez:
Nice work on that hippie Cookie, well done. There was a kid who graduated from the high school where I teach, he joined the Marines and was killed in Iraq last September. I attended the funeral and there was a rumor of that bastard Phelps and his inbred kin showing up to wave their God hates fags signs. I walked outside with a friend after the service and saw the street lined on both sides for about a hundred yards with members of veterans groups holding flags and saluting as the hearse drove by. They owned the street, phelps wouldn’t have gotten anywhere close. I was talking to a sheriff’s deputy as he waited to direct traffic, I asked him what he would do to me if I flattened one of those inbred bastards. He said (and I misquote)”well, I’d have to cuff you, read you your rights, put you in my car and drive you down the block…where I’d uncuff you, shake your hand and buy you a cup of coffee”.
I really don’t think we’ll see a repeat of the abuse heaped upon returning Vietnam Vets…a lot of people have much longer memories than the drugged out anti-war types of today.
March 21st, 2006 at 11:03 amJaybear…nice hear’n back frum ya…oooops…did it again. First of All….THAT’S MY KIND OF COP!! In fact…I’ve done the same thing myself on an occassion or two. I was primarily a Detective Sergeant in the Criminal Invest. Div….Assistant Crime Lab Director (CSI stuff)….but…toward the end I was a street Sgt….loved it…had alot of discretion and latitude. I had to make sure the statute of limitations were up before I wrote that article :-). Jay…it does my heart good to know that there are people like yourself out there who really support Vets. Being a Disabled Vet I have much contact with other DAV’s…and they often reflect about the apparent/perceived lack of support….keep up the good work Matey…nice hearing from you…my e-mail address is in my profile …if’n ya wants t’drop a line to an old country gentleman…..Cookie
March 21st, 2006 at 11:22 amThanks for the good words Cookie, I’ve bought lunch and coffee for more than one vet when I see them in uniform…just my way of saying thanks. Ya’ see, I have to do something….I never served, but I did work for the DoD and Army armor for 10 years in the 80’s and 90’s though and spent a lot of field time at Ft. Hood and Ft. Knox. Got to know quite a few guys who are still in and have swung through Iraq and Afghanistan a couple of times now. They are doing the heavy lifting, not me, If I can do something to prop them up when they get back….if I can pick up a meal or a drink for them, so they can hold onto some of the little money they get paid (and they are all vastly underpaid)…then that’s what I’ll do, that’s how I can contribute to the mission.
I’ll tell one more story and then I have to head off to school ( to spread my B.S. in there). I was waiting to board a plane to Idaho Falls last winter, and there were about 10 Idaho nat’l Guardsmen waiting for the same plane. They were in their desert camo’s, had just completed their tour in Iraq and were heading home after their cool down period at Ft. Lewis. I walked up, shook their hands and thanked them, then walked away to leave them alone. During the 30 minutes we waited for the plane, there was a steady stream of people coming up and doing the same thing to them…it was so great to see. On the plane ride to Idaho, they were treated like kings by the flight crew, the cockpit crew came out (one by one of course) to talk to them and shake their hands, and they were given free drinks by the flight attendants. Like I said before, there’s too many of us with long memories, the least we can do is to protect our heroes from being spat upon and called baby killers. It seems that a lot of people are already making sure that it doesn’t happen again…..
Hey, I liked that Deer Loaf recipe, I haven’t hunted deer since I was a teenager and forgot how tasty venison is….I’ll be visiting your site often to steal recipes…will also bookmark your email addy.
March 21st, 2006 at 11:47 amJaybear….I don’t know where your thinking is on this subject but….God Bless You!
March 21st, 2006 at 4:34 pmThe savvy staff at Reuters have analyzed this whole affair and have deduced that the West’s response to Abdur Rahman’s plight is virtually a “mirror image” of Islam’s reaction to the Muhammed cartoons imbroglio. They do concede, however, that so far no one in the West has rioted, burned an embassy, boycotted anything or killed anyone in a stampede. They also note that there may be subtle differences between calling for death to anyone who dares to draw a cartoon and calling to spare the life of someone who dares to practice the religion of their choice, but after that, it’s basically the same deal - Western prejudice against Islam.
March 23rd, 2006 at 11:04 am[…] The brilliant analysts at al-Roto-Reuters have looked into the case of the Afghani man facing the death penalty for converting from Islam and concluded that it’s just the same as the Cameljockey Cartoon Clusterfuck. ROME (Reuters) - The strong Western response to a threatened death sentence for an Afghan convert to Christianity looks something like a mirror image of the Muslim reaction to the Prophet Mohammad caricatures printed in the European press. […]
March 23rd, 2006 at 12:09 pm