Oh G-d. We May Never Stop Laughing Again.
Posted by: Emperor Misha I in Lefty America-Haters7:44 pm
Thanks to LC & IB Jay of Stop the ACLU, we’re now in excruciating pain.
To be more specific, our Imperial Abdomen is locked up in painful cramps from laughing hysterically at the idiocy of the American Communist Lickspittles’ Union who, in yet another of their articles filled with unsubstantiated claims about “abuse” of their little terrorist darling allies, come up with this screaming whopper of Idiotarian Imbecility and Ignorance:
Also included in the documents released today is a heavily redacted memo referring to a December 10, 2002 “SERE INTERROGATION SOP” (Standard Operating Procedure) for Guantánamo. SERE, which stands for “Survival, Evasion, Resistance and Escape,” is a secret military program under which detainees held in U.S. custody abroad are subjected to harsh interrogation techniques. [Emphasis ours — Misha]
BUAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
And those idiots expect anybody with the good sense that G-d gave wet gravel to take anything else they say seriously?
Granted, we’ll be the first to admit that S.E.R.E. and similar programs with which we’re more intimately familiar aren’t exactly a lot of fun (unless you happen to be an instructor), but the facts remain that A) it’s hardly a “secret program” and B) the only ones being “subjected to harsh interrogation techniques” are the trainees, none of whom are enemy combatants. In fact, they tend to wear the same uniform as the instructors. Funny how education works, isn’t it?
The dope-addled bongsuckers of the ACLU might want to try it one day. Education that is. Any sort of education, since they’re obviously not overburdened with an abundance of scholarly teachings.
I’d be happy to introduce them to S.E.R.E. as well. For free.
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Wow- Whatta buncha maroons! Obviously NO ONE in the ACLU (insert pejorative here) has ever been in the military, or even KNOWS someone who has been in the military who would be willing to help them look like they halfway know what they’re talking about. TOO damn funny!
January 12th, 2006 at 7:53 pm[…] I don’t know where they got confused, but Anti Idiotarian Rottweiller calls them on it. Granted, we’ll be the first to admit that S.E.R.E. and similar programs with which we’re more intimately familiar aren’t exactly a lot of fun (unless you happen to be an instructor), but the facts remain that A) it’s hardly a “secret program” and B) the only ones being “subjected to harsh interrogation techniques” are the trainees, none of whom are enemy combatants. In fact, they tend to wear the same uniform as the instructors. Funny how education works, isn’t it? […]
January 12th, 2006 at 8:31 pm1) A member of ACLU in the military. Not possible. Not allowed.
2) A member of ACLU talking to someone in the military or someone who knows someone in the military. Not possible. Not survivable (for ACLU member).
3) A member of ACLU knowing what they are talking about. Not possible. Not enough thorazine in the world.
:cuckoo: :finger: :thumbdown: :whatever:
January 12th, 2006 at 8:39 pmI wish bongs were at the root of their problems- then it would be as simple as taking them away and breaking them.
Unfortunately the pathology is much deeper and more insidious.
January 12th, 2006 at 9:09 pmPerhaps some ACLU members should take the S.E.R.E. training so that they can see how respectful we expect our military to be treated with by their splodeydope friends.
January 12th, 2006 at 9:10 pmFurther reading reveals even more insidious means of torture…such as cleaning out open wounds to prevent infection:
I had better spirit my mother out of the US post-haste, because I have more peroxide and water poured on open wounds than I can recount. Surely I am scarred for life! Perhaps the ACLU would take my case?
January 12th, 2006 at 9:18 pmAt first, I thought that this was utterly retarded as well, until I looked a little further. It seems that interrogators have been using techniques developed at the school on detainees in the ME.
January 12th, 2006 at 9:28 pmDoes anyone else smell bullshit? :poop: :poop: :poop: :poop: :poop:
January 12th, 2006 at 9:38 pmThese jerks wouldn’t know torture if it bit them.
December 9, 2005 (CNN) While interviewing an anonymous US Special Forces soldier, a Reuters News agent asked the soldier what he felt when sniping members of Al Quaeda in Afghanistan. The soldier shrugged and replied, “Recoil.”…:lol:
January 12th, 2006 at 9:38 pmRon, the article at hand is STILL retarded. Your point being? (I’ve been through SERE training, so don’t even TRY to bullshit me.)
BTW, hope the pussy you’re tappin’ by turning into a Leftist is worth it.
:shake:
January 12th, 2006 at 9:41 pmBC, Im just trying to say that there’s more to the allegation than a mere misunderstanding of what we experience as SERE. The allegation itself is still cartainly up for criticism, I just wanted to point out to the Emp that this has a history, that’s all.
Misha is right, though-SERE is torture. I just went through it a month ago. I told them everything even if they didn’t ask after that. :smirk:
January 12th, 2006 at 9:49 pmHere we go again.
<moonbat>How dare you use interrogation techniques on terrorists that you use on elite US service members in training!!! You fascists pigs! The world knows that our elite service members in training can withstand 9 billion times the abuse that the
poor freedom fightersterrorists can!!!!!</moonbat>Give it up ron. Stop sucking the ACLU’s dick. Admit that they are the most dangerous organization inside the US.
STEP AWAY FROM THE KOOLAID!! PUT YOUR IDEALS ON THE GROUND, STEP BACK AND NO ONE WILL GET HURT!!!!
:whatever:
January 12th, 2006 at 9:50 pmI hope you at least got in a few smart-assed remarks to make it worth the “punishment” you’d have gotten anyway.
January 12th, 2006 at 9:51 pmSheesh..I hope the ACLU never learns about the intentional , vicious mental stress required to complete the saintly Adm. Hyman Rickover’s Naval Nuclear Training Program. 72 hours in the classroom weekly AND 20 hours additional supervised weekly study time for any exam scores torture instruction. How fondly I remember those weeks with a TOTAL sack time of 24 hours.
:whatever: :whatever: :whatever: :whatever: :whatever:
January 12th, 2006 at 9:58 pmhmm…rogue html tag… study for exam scores was mandated for less than a 2.8 grade. The saying was two-eight and skate.
January 12th, 2006 at 10:00 pmWikipedia IS NOT a credible source for anything…
For a starting point, its not bad place to start…
Any clown can contribute and mostly clowns with an agenda do contribute to Wikipedia… :whatever:
January 12th, 2006 at 10:00 pmFrom City Journal’s Brian C. Anderson: The Plot to Shush Rush and O’Reilly
January 12th, 2006 at 10:03 pmI-yi-yi, I try to bring a little bit of background that I ran across, and suddenly I’m sucking the ACLU’s dick. Give me a break. All I am suggesting is that it is possible that SERE training is being used in reverse, and that the ACLU is not the only organization claiming this.
January 12th, 2006 at 10:04 pmYou are a lying sack of shit.
I am again calling bullshit on ron as a member of the us military.
I don’t think you could pass basic training, much less SERE.
You are a stealth moonbat and a liar and a pinko faggit.
Prove it prick. Or shut the fuck up.
I for one am tired of seeing your posts of “I’m in the military and just did so and so….blah blah blah” and then some liberal meme floats out.
January 12th, 2006 at 10:09 pmRight, but it does link to a NY Times article, though Im sure your next reply will be that any clown can contribute to them as well. I wonder when this chain of dismissal of sources ends? Until you find one that doesn’t say anything you don’t want to hear?
Wiki’s founder is a libertarian, by the way, and it earmarks entries that it considers to be possibly slanted.
And I didn’t even want to pick a tussle by mentioning what I found. But now that I have, bring it on!!! :cuss:
:smirk:
January 12th, 2006 at 10:12 pmYou are a lying sack of shit.
BWAHAHAHAHA!!!!
Will someone in management please let this asshole know that I ain’t usin’ a Korean IP address because I’m on vacation here?
January 12th, 2006 at 10:14 pmRanger 6, I spent a number of years flying with some guys (and gals) who turned out to be Stealth Moonbats™ of the highest order. The scary part of it is, we were charged with some incredibly sensitive, extremely classified information and collection technology/techniques. (I can’t even divulge the initials of the “sub-classifications” of the stuff, on pain of imprisonment. On the other hand, if I were a Klintoon staffer, I’d only be charged with a misdemeanor and fined a paltry 10K, which my DNC defense fund would gladly pay.)
January 12th, 2006 at 10:26 pmI rest my case coward. No successful candidate of SERE would ever ask someone else to fight their battles for them.
You are a fraud. Plain and simple. I don’t give a fuck where your pink IP a dress comes from.
January 12th, 2006 at 10:27 pmBC, I’m used to the guys that crawled out of the mud bleeding, grinning and ready to kill you if you couldn’t recite the pledge of allegiance fast enough. I have no use or patience for “ron”.
January 12th, 2006 at 10:30 pmHmmm… MOS please Ron. :satansmoking:
January 12th, 2006 at 10:45 pmSgt Slappy,
His MOS is 100B
Or in civilian: 100% Bullshit.
January 12th, 2006 at 10:56 pmLOL!
or how about 92S - laundry boy. cleans the :poop: outta skivvies.
January 12th, 2006 at 11:23 pmOK, OK, OK, alright already.
Ron actually DOES have a point here. Unless SERE training works completely differently over here than what it does where I come from, there’s this implicit “of course, some of the techniques we’re subjecting you to now would never be used by our side. Nudge, nudge, wink, wink” going on all the time.
Just like you can’t teach somebody self-defense without also, deliberately or not, teaching them quite a few nifty offensive techniques and handy tricks. If you’ve been subjected to something that worked wonderfully well in making you co-operate, it’s likely that you’ll remember it if you one day hold one of the other guys and you know that he knows something that you absolutely, positively HAVE to know. It’s just the way it works.
That being said, going through SERE doesn’t turn you into an interrogator, it takes quite a bit more than can be learned through simple osmosis, so suggesting that we’ve trained interrogators simply by letting them flip through SERE SOP is ludicrous at best. We’ve got people trained in interrogation, and they’ve forgotten more about their craft than sixteen field manuals could ever teach them. Unless I’m completely mistaken and the U.S. Armed Forces are the only ones in the world without a real interrogator training program.
Oh, and in case a moonbat slips by and can’t help it but scream “see? SEE? FASCIST TORTURERS AND BUTCHERS!”, I can assure you that none of what I’ve alluded to involves pulling out of fingernails, acid baths, poking out of eyeballs or amputations. That kind of crap belongs in the movies and tinpot dictatorships that don’t know any better. There’s nothing in SERE that you won’t recover from without permanent injury. Pain, sure. Fear, suuuure. Discomfort, absolutely. But at the end of the day you’ll still be in possession of all of your appendages and you’ll get over it. Not that I mind. If getting rougher worked better I wouldn’t shed a tear over some terrorist scumbag being subjected to it, but it doesn’t so why do it? It’s getting the information that it’s all about.
Anyways, that was off on a tangent.
But even though it’s certainly true that you can’t go through SERE without learning something that could be turned around (as with all other kinds of learning), suggesting that we’re training interrogators by letting them leaf through training manuals is ridiculous. We’d be in pretty bad shape if we had to do that to train people.
Besides, that’s not what the ACLU said. They said, and I quote again: “SERE, which stands for “Survival, Evasion, Resistance and Escape,” is a secret military program under which detainees held in U.S. custody abroad are subjected to harsh interrogation techniques.”
That is bullshit, no matter how you spin it, and if they can’t even get a simple fact like that right, something that any twit with Google can check in about 15 seconds, there’s absolutely no reason to take anything else they say seriously.
(Oh, and not only does Ron’s IP originate in Korea, his email addy checks out as well, and I don’t mean as in “it’s a Korean one”, it’s a bit more affirmative than that. Can’t and won’t say more than that since it’s against written-in-stone Rott policy. Just to clear that up).
January 12th, 2006 at 11:42 pm:shiftyeyes:
Is it safe to come out yet, or are the bullets still flying?
January 13th, 2006 at 12:38 amSERE is a “secret” military training program?
Um, when I was in it was easy to tell the guys who went through it. Their noses were squased like tomatoes. And they told you all about it, in living color and graphic detail. (one Sgt ended an interrogation session by deliberately shitting the chair he was lashed to, or so he says.) Misha is right: if they can’t get simple facts like this right, what chances do they have to understand truly complicated military training and protocol?
Such as CAS missions, for example?
All this is irrelevant, of course. Making fun of ACLU idjits is like clubbing baby seals. Too easy.
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That’s better.
January 13th, 2006 at 2:31 amSince when is “Survival, Evasion, Resistance and Escape” secret?
Hell, I’ve seen the TM [or was it an FM?] paperbacks on that at the local gunshows.
I guess someone’d better arrest those rednecks, they somehow got classified information
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While I’m at it, my level of ‘give a fook’ on this subject can be summed up as follows: :whatever:
January 13th, 2006 at 2:35 amOnly a secret to anyone who has never meet a military pilot. A friend of mine’s brother flew B-52’s and when he came home from his training we got the details of all the crap they put him through. Scared the hell out of me.
I went though Hell Week at a frat (ΘΔΧ) with sleep deprivation and mild physical bullshit and watched (the other) guys completely lose it. The mind is a fragile thing and if you push the right buttons for that person, they are toast.
The real difference is someone going through SERE or Hell Week has a fair assumption they will come out the other side. An exercise can only give you an idea of how you’ll react when your life is at stake.
If studying how our guys react to a “controlled ” simulation helps the “Black Op’s” guys get information easier, I’m for it.
January 13th, 2006 at 2:54 amThe Smoking Gun…
The ACLU is on the case at Guantanamo, and now heads will roll:Also included in the documents released today is a heavily redacted memo referring to a December 10, 2002 “SERE INTERROGATION SOP” (Standard Operating Procedure) for Guantánamo. SERE, which…
January 13th, 2006 at 3:06 amI’ll give you that, Misha. For credibility’s sake the least they coulda done is get it straight what SERE is, and THEN tell people there’s another side to the story.
I can’t totally agree, but I can see why one who is familiar with the military and SERE would want to mistrust what they were saying. Erm, aside from the fact that they are the ACLU, that is. I do feel they clutter the courts defending some lame, and sometimes morally offensive behavior in the name of liberty.
January 13th, 2006 at 3:28 amRon Re:#36
This is the organization that wants to interpret what is constitutionally correct, yet blows a simple checking of facts. Sloppy and deceiving work, although not on purpose I’m sure.
January 13th, 2006 at 4:58 amYou mean like them defending NAMBLA? :poop:
January 13th, 2006 at 7:32 amWhat’s the problem with that?
The techniques used by the SERE instructers pale in comparison to the techniques that would be used against our soldiers by enemy combatants.
As Misha pointed out, it’s not like they’re pulling out their fingernails and zapping their ‘nads with a cattleprod. (Having never experienced SERE training, I’m assuming this is true)
At any rate, why should terrorist suspects be exempt from techniques that are used in the training of our own military?
What is “torture” to some, may not be to others.
For example, I would consider sitting through a double feature of “Fried Green Tomatos” and “Steel Magnolias” torture but I’m sure some of the GLORs would have a different opinion.
January 13th, 2006 at 10:01 amDamn straight, I do, E-man.
Both of those movies feature tough Southern “belles”, which are somehow familiar to me.
Mint julep, anyone?
January 13th, 2006 at 10:09 amHell…I was the SRO in my class, and my ‘buddies’ sent information about my private live to the instructors to use during interrogation. How you react to the ‘interviews’ is as important as the information you (fail to) divulge. I know a story about a guy who was being interrogated by a female..he whipped it out and started :whatever: . She was so embarrassed she ran out of the room. Of course, he got his ass kicked, but it was his small victory. A lot of it is mental more than physical…but sometimes it IS the other way around. :satansmoking:
But it is hardly a secret we run training like that.
January 13th, 2006 at 10:12 amokay, if i get these wrong, someone please correct me as i have not served in the military but i do alot of military reading{history}…this program…SERES….sounds like a program that the military teaches to either all of its soldiers or to special units{SEALS, Army Rangers,coomando units, sniper units}…again if im wrong please correct me…but if this is what i think it is all it does is teach American soldiers how to evade capture from enemy units, how to survive out in the wilderness behind enemy lines and how to attempt to escape if captured and imprisioned…i mean, how stupid is the ACLU???..i know, VERY stupid, but if this SERES is what it seems, than this is something that is common knowledge among any soldiers of any nation….i know that among British officers, during WWII, it was thier DUTY to attempt escape, even if it meant death, as the Germans were known to do to escaping POW’s….didnt mean to step on any toes of anyone who has served, im just wanting to make sure i have this right is all…id rather look stupid for a minute than feel stupid later on by not knowing the real deal…thanks to all you guys who have served…guess its why i love this site so much as so many of yus know what youre talking about when it comes down to military information and knowledge…something that the ACLU lacks COMPLETELY
January 13th, 2006 at 10:22 amVery, very, very secret. GoSERE.com
January 13th, 2006 at 12:33 pm[…] Misha over at Anti-Idiotarian Rottweiler corrects the ACLU Granted, we’ll be the first to admit that S.E.R.E. and similar programs with which we’re more intimately familiar aren’t exactly a lot of fun (unless you happen to be an instructor), but the facts remain that A) it’s hardly a “secret program” and B) the only ones being “subjected to harsh interrogation techniques” are the trainees, none of whom are enemy combatants. In fact, they tend to wear the same uniform as the instructors. Funny how education works, isn’t it? […]
January 13th, 2006 at 1:27 pmThanos - you are absolutely correct. Having gone through SERE with the USAF - you pretty much nailed it.
As far as Ron having just gone through it a few weeks back while in Korea - not really sure about that either.
SERE training is for special ops like you mentioned, (pilots, seals, rangers, etc) - essentially anyone who may have an opportunity to be apprehended or caught behind enemy lines.
It’s pretty fun. If Ron told them everything he can think of - then I don’t want him in my Army. I don’t know anyone going through SERE that actually learned the lessons told anyone anything of value. You are specifically taught not to tell anything. You make up stuff…but you don’t tell anything.
You resist - and come home alive - without divulging secrets you may know. If you don’t have a classified mission - then it doesn’t matter what you tell them.
Anyway Thanos - just wanted to reaffirm - you got it right.
January 13th, 2006 at 2:51 pm“What’s the color of the boathouse in Hereford?” - Robert DeNiro “Ronin”
“What’s the name of the mountain in Maine?” - Navy Aircrew SERE School
MCPO Airdale
January 13th, 2006 at 5:09 pmThanos, the one known as BobO knows of what he speaks… We flew together out of Athens, Greece.
UT FIAT LIBERTAS, my fellow Desert Raider™. :satansmoking:
January 13th, 2006 at 8:14 pmI was just kidding, man…
January 13th, 2006 at 9:23 pmOk guys, what makes this SOOOOOO funny is that the ACLU guys don’t even have to know anybody in the military……..ALL THEY HAVE TO IS WATCH THE MOVIE G.I. JANE!!!
Remember? The middle part of the film is the SERE part where Demi and her team get captured and interrogated and Demi and Viggo have that big bloody fight.
They call it SERE training several times.
January 14th, 2006 at 1:01 amFor future reference, Ron, put in one of the cool little “smileys” that our Incredible Imperial TechWiz & Token Liberal™, DJ Allyn, has been so kind to install just above the comment writing window. :smirk:
It MIGHT (Nothing’s guaranteed.) avoid a mistunderstanding that could lead to unnecessary flammáge.
January 14th, 2006 at 9:11 amLord knows that these days I could use the flame retardant smileys around here lately! :shiftyeyes:
It’s strange ground I’m on, BC. I’m still pro-Israel, pro-Christian, but anti-Iraq war/blind military interventionism, and my economics have taken a progressive turn. I don’t sit comfy in either camp anymore. I can’t stand the prattling and hand wringing of moonbats, but I am equally annoyed by delusional wingnut keyboard machismo as well. Sometimes you just lookat it and wonder, can these people be fer fuckin’ real?
I dont trust our president anymore. His embrace of something makes me want to question it. That ain’t BDS- the prez has done this to himself. Misha was right and I was wrong about calling GB a fucktard and voting against him because of it. The guy has piss poor judgment.
January 14th, 2006 at 10:06 amWell, judging from the ass-thumping the goat-fellators have been taking the last 4+ years, I’d have to strongly disagree with your assessment of the President’s judgement.
As I pointed out, in a MiniFisking™, to a braindead pseudo-intellectual Leftist over at C&R recently: (Apologies for eating up the Emperor’s b/w by copy/pasting the thing, but it’ll save time and clickage on the LC’s part.)
You mean because they’ve only had THREE free elections in the last year? Or is it because there are still terrorists and left-over Saddamites that are being systematically eliminated, albeit slower than many would have? (Due to being TOO cautious in blowing shit up and breaking things, due to Leftists whining about the mean ol’ US military blowing shit up and breaking things.)
Soooooo… Let’s just let them do “business as usual” and not work towards ensuring that someone comes to power who won’t encircle an entire city and shell it into rubble?
How utterly racist (culturist?) of you, my dear.
Are you saying that, because a culture has a history of hundreds (or thousands) of years of monarchy/dictatorship, there’s no way a democracy can arise out of that? (Hint: There wasn’t ANY “Western-style freedom and democracy”) until the colonies in N. America decided to throw off the shackles of their historical monarchy in 1776. Even then, it took YEARS for them completely throw off those chains and get around to making into a “working democratic REPUBLIC.”)
Hmmmm… Let’s take a look at the record, shall we?
1. 50,000,000 people given the CHANCE at freedom for the first time in their countries’ history. (Check)
2. Lebanese citizens rising up and forcing Syria to pull out of Lebanon. (Check)
3. Libya VOLUNTARILY giving up its PREVIOUSLY UNKNOWN WMD PROGRAM. (Check)
4. Syrian defectors calling for the end of the despotic regime in Damascus and replacing it with a representative democratic government. (Check)
5. Arab Gulf states actually having *GASP!* ELECTIONS, with some including female candidates.(Check)
6. Saudi Arabians even DISCUSSING the ideas of *GASP!” females being allowed to drive, vote and hold public office. (Subjects that, until recently would have gotten you a free ride to “Chop Chop Square”.) (Check)
There are numerous other examples, but we’ll leave just those for you to ruminate upon. (Don’t wanna overload those little circuits, do we?)
Which is why some people actually see the “Big Picture” and are supporting the ex-patriates from the Middle East in bringing about changes for the better.
Your mindset (and that of your fellow LefTards™) is one that says that it’s better to do nothing, and leave the disease to continue spreading, than to try and treat it and hope for the best. We see how well that worked out on 9/11, don’t we?
F.E.T.E.
I humbly submit that you might want to re-think your position on Chimpy McBusHitler’s “judgement”.
Just sayin’.
January 14th, 2006 at 10:36 amDammit. The blockquotes were supposed to encompass the area from the first quote all the way down to the “F.E.T.E.“. (It showed up in the “Preview“)
The “Your mindset…” was directed towards the Fiskee in the original MiniFisking™, not you, Ron.
January 14th, 2006 at 10:41 amYet you prattle and handwring about Bush and Iraq.
Is everyone who comments on this blog who supports the Iraq war suffering from “delusional wingnut keyboard machismo”?
My, that descriptive term is straight out of the Liberal Moonbat Thesaurus.
Here’s what “I can’t stand” and “equally annoys” me.
A Bush hating liberal who hides behind the guise of being a “moderate”.
P.P. used to do this (much to my irritation) until he finally dropped the pretense (after much prodding) and “outed himself” as a liberal.
As we all know, he wasn’t shunned and the LCs didn’t damn him to the flaming pit of Hell etc. etc. (His stellar technical contributions to this blog helped as well. :smirk:)
The thing is, it’s not your views but the apparent pretense that sparks a visceral reaction towards flaming amongst the LCs.
The “moderate” facade while espousing viewpoints that could be read at The Daily Kos gives an aire of phoniness (warranted or unwarranted) that is readily picked up by the LCs and results in…well…you saw for yourself.
Just sayin’, is all.
(Then again, it could merely be my “delusional wingnut keyboard machismo” kicking in due to lack of coffee. :grin:)
January 14th, 2006 at 11:24 amWell, I’m talking about a certain tone. Shit, maybe I need to work on mine if that’s how I’m coming across.
No. I’m talking about whackjobs like Ranger6 who think everything can be solved by blowing it up. You always seem to find a way to mischaracterize things people say.
Yeah, PP’s a liberal on some stuff and conservative on others. Ive found that I am more comfortable that way too. It’s not a bad word for me anymore.The fringes of both ends are the scary ones.
BZZZT! Try again, E-Man. What am I pretending to be? My politics just got more complicated for me, is all. Like I said, strange ground. I’m off the reservation on a lot of gospel and some people don’t like it. Oh, well.
Fair enough. Call me a liberal if you want. I don’t care. You wanna flame me, go for it. You wanna discuss something, we can do that too. I’m enjoying a bit of the antagonism anyway. If you’ll recall, this site used to be more combative anyway. I think Misha is a great guy and this was my first bloghome. I would love to be friendly with the people here still but if that is not possible, thats cool, I’ll take it somewhere else. I think we may be being misled by the people in power right now. There is a strong independent streak in everyone here-why then, are we continuing to keep faith with and defend those who slap us in the face with their piss-poor decision making? It’s a good topic.
January 14th, 2006 at 9:56 pmThe thing is, leftist positions seem to involve moonbatlike “prattling” and “handwringing”.
Then again, I imagine that Conservative positions come across as “delusional wingnut keyboard machismo” to you.
Point of view, I suppose…
I think Ranger 6 was taken aback by your swerve left off the liberal moonbat cliff concerning Iraq and the Bush administration.
To claim to have conservative views yet espouse the liberal moonbat positions on Iraq and the Bush administration no doubt raised a serious “red flag” with him.
It kinda smacks of “The Manchurian Candidate”
Wait a minute, you’re in Korea and we haven’t heard from you in awhile and suddenly you return and…..
Just kidding. I’m sure you weren’t kidnapped and brainwashed by Kim Jong Il’s North Korean minions… (I hope. :smirk:)
Misha and just about every other LC and GLOR has advocated solving a problem by “blowing it up” at one time or another in an exercise in hyperbole.
Under your criteria, that apparently makes them “whackjobs”.
I merely point out inconsistencies when I see them.
Then again, doing so is defined as “mischaracterization” in the liberal moonbat debate manual so I’m not surprised by your allegation.
Er, PP’s a liberal on just about everything. He’s only conservative on “stuff” where taking the liberal stance would make you look like an utter idiot to all but the most braindead.
I see. Kind of like playing both sides of the street. That’s ok, but being too “open-minded” has the unfortunate tendency of causing one’s ones brains to fall out.
Wasn’t that Liberal Democrat “meme of the week” a couple of months ago?
True, but while conservatives have tendency to distance themselves from their wackos, liberals embrace theirs and give them positions of power in the democrat party.
A poor victim of “whackjobs” with “delusional wingnut keyboard machismo”?
I imagine the “mental gymnastics” required to twist logic so that liberal dogma has credibility can be “complicated”.
Of course people aren’t going to “like it” when you espouse the liberal moonbat line.
What did you expect? This is “The Rott”, after all.
Well, apparently you do care, otherwise you wouldn’t have gotten so defensive as illustrated by the defensive nature of your comment.
Believe me, I will do so unmercifully if you deserve it. So far, that hasn’t been the case.:smirk:
Sounds good, we’ve done that numerous times in the past and when at “loggerheads”, have managed to just “agree to disagree”.
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As do I. The only reason this site isn’t as “combative” as it used to be is because of the lack of moonbats. (To some apparently, you’re seeking to fill that void. At least as far as Bush and Iraq are concerned.)
I agree and this was my first “bloghome” as well.
That’s up to you.
“Bush lied, people died! eh?
Well not all the decision making by the Bush administration er, the “people in power right now” was “piss-poor”.
Did they make mistakes and some “piss poor decisions”?
Sure they did.
So has every other person or group of people in a position of power throughout the history of mindkind.
You’ll also note that Bush has been blasted on this site on a regular basis for some of his decisions.
Just because we don’t lapse into “Bush Derangement Syndrome” over those mistakes doesn’t mean we’re right-wing robots under the mind-control of Karl Rove.
As far as “keeping the faith” goes, we realize that the liberal democrat alternative would be much worse. :smirk:
January 15th, 2006 at 10:06 am[…] Nothing but postulates (actually, “pustulates” might be more accurate in this case) backed up by nothing, just as we’ve come to expect from the Asshat Commie Lickspittle’s Union, the very same organization claiming that S.E.R.E. training is a Sooper Sekrit U.S. Military Torture Program Abusing Little Brown People (Terrorists). Both groups are seeking to have the courts order an immediate end to the program, which the groups say is illegal and unconstitutional. […]
January 17th, 2006 at 10:15 pm