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That clownshoe just never ceases to make me chuckle and shake my head in wonder. Really, what world does he live in, and what color is the sky there?

Remember, according to The Only Man Who Can Save America™, 9/11 was all America’s fault, and the best response as well as the best defense against the continuing threats from the Religion of Piss, is to run away. You see, if it wasn’t for us Evil Americans, the terrorists wouldn’t harm us at all. Furthermore, killing terrorists, destroying their camps, interdicting their supply routes and working to overthrow their regimes only makes them stronger.

Running like scared chickens, leaving them to do as they please, however, will immediately destroy them.

If only our grandparents had known. Then they could have ignored Hitler and Tojo while they gobbled up much of Europe and Asia, respectively.

Wait, that’s what they did initially, wasn’t it?

Oh well, we’re sure that it will work out wonderfully this time. After all, how can Ron the Messiah be wrong?

Pardon me while I go laugh hysterically…

Meanwhile, go read this message from LC Axeman to a different class of dingbats (well, not so different after all), the Truthers. Great read. I couldn’t possibly have put it better myself!

UPDATE: Well, at least Ron Paul and his nutjob supporters aren’t alone in the world with their view, and that’s without including Osama bin Laden in the count. The BBC is in full agreement with them too. From the BBC’s kids’ section on 9/11:

The way America has got involved in conflicts in regions like the Middle East has made some people very angry, including a group called al-Qaeda - who are widely thought to have been behind the attacks.

So, you know, we asked for it. Just like Ron Paul says. There you have it. Shame on us for making al-Qaeda angry.

UPDATE to the previous UPDATE: LC BobO wrote the BBC, wondering what on Earth possessed them to write something as irresponsibly stupid as that and pass it off as fact. They replied graciously and sincerely:

Dear Mr O’Connell

Thank you for your email to Newsround. The article you are referring to
is an old guide that we thought had been purged from our system.
It is my understanding that it was written on the day of the attacks
back in 2001. I agree that it is inappropriate and it is now being taken
off the site.

In addition to this, I have asked staff to do a thorough search to
ensure the guides that remain online are accurate and objective.

I am genuinely sorry that this article has appeared and that it has
caused offence,

Best wishes,

Sinead Rocks
Newsround Editor

Hold on to your chairs, LCs, because this is something you’re not likely to hear often around here, but credit where credit’s due:

Way to go, BBC!

If only more media outlets were as prompt, courteous and helpful in their self-corrections, then… Well, we wouldn’t have much to write about, would we?

Other than Ron Paul, that is, but he’s an outlier in more than one sense of the word.

Again: thanks!

29 Responses to “Ron “Nutjob” Paul Sees War, Blames America”
  1. LC Wil Comment by LC Wil

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    Ron Paul is a nutjob. Every Presidential Election attracts SOME damn fool.

    Someone Neuter the Paulbots before they breed.

  2. BauerPower Comment by BauerPower

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    Ron Paul was once a doctor, said his campaign. Quack is more like it, since he stressed Al Qaeda as “believed to be responsible” for the 9/11 attacks. 19 of 19 hijackers were radical Islamic extremists. Khaled Sheikh Mohammed was interrogated and debriefed by Pakistan, Egypt, and the US, and he was the mastermind of the attacks. Also, listen to the onflight recordings of the koranimals announcing they have taken planes and killed passengers and flight crew. What more does this idjit want? I am ashamed this jackhole is from Texas…..along with the Dixie Chicks being from Texas also…..

  3. B.C., Imperial Torturer™ Comment by B.C., Imperial Torturer™

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    …including a group called al-Qaeda - who are widely thought to have been behind the attacks.

    :em98:

  4. LC Cheapshot911, Dept. of Redneck Tech Comment by LC Cheapshot911, Dept. of Redneck Tech

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    BauerPower

    along with the Dixie Chicks

    So sad they’re from Texas,
    Reaaally glad they ain’t from Dixie.

  5. BobO Comment by BobO

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    I actually e-mailed the BBC about that page…here’s their response (my original e-mail is below her response)..I’m shocked at the response. Either she is lying…or they really do mean it…but I will follow up to ensure it is changed or removed!

    Dear Mr O’Connell

    Thank you for your email to Newsround. The article you are referring to
    is an old guide that we thought had been purged from our system.
    It is my understanding that it was written on the day of the attacks
    back in 2001. I agree that it is inappropriate and it is now being taken
    off the site.

    In addition to this, I have asked staff to do a thorough search to
    ensure the guides that remain online are accurate and objective.

    I am genuinely sorry that this article has appeared and that it has
    caused offence,

    Best wishes,

    Sinead Rocks
    Newsround Editor

    —–Original Message—–
    From: XXXXXXXXXX
    Sent: 11 September 2007 17:32
    To: Comments
    Subject: Comment on a story

    From: Bob O’Connell
    Comments: As an American, I take offense at your explanation and
    indoctrination of your youth as to why Al-Qaeda attacked us on 9/11.
    Apparently, based on your explanation, you are on the side of the evil
    jihadists and buy in to their logic. Apparently, the attacks on your
    own soil and loss of innocent life isn’t enough to prove to you they are
    evil and want a religious caliphate. It has nothing to do with American
    foreign policy. It has everything to do with an evil man who wants a
    Muslim world. Why don’t you teach your children about the evil of their
    belief rather than try to blame the attack on us? I consider your
    explanation as cowardice. It is sad to think you will brainwash your
    youth this way.
    Accepted Terms: Accepted

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  6. LC Cheapshot911, Dept. of Redneck Tech Comment by LC Cheapshot911, Dept. of Redneck Tech

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    Maybe a general douching of our whole government would be the shortcut to prosperity…
    Comrade Putin believes it’s the answer to his problems,,,

    Can you imagine the decibels the libertards here would make if this was even considered on these shores?

    THIS, if it’s true,, is a major shake up, no, not even a shake up,,,it’s a good ol’ traditional purrrrrge,,and we should pay very close attention to what arises now..

  7. BobO Comment by BobO

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    Well…gotta hand it to them!! Here’s the link to where that page used to be.

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/cbbcnews/hi/newsid_1610000/newsid_1612600/1612653.stm

    They did indeed pull it down! Going with the Emperor on this one..way to go BBC.

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  9. Blackiswhite, Imperial Agent Provocateur Comment by Blackiswhite, Imperial Agent Provocateur

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    The fountainhead of this insanity is the philosophy of pragmatism which, roughly, is ‘do what works today, the hell with the future’, and asinine multicultural sensitivity. That interviewer was simply wrong about the current Afghan government. They may not be the Taliban, but they’re still going to try and kill us - you can ask Abdul Rahman about how ‘reformed’ they are.

    How right you are, Fanusi.

    “Extinction: For Today, For Tomorrow. For the Future.”

    We can get the libatards behind this. Tell them that “It’s for the Chhhillllldddrreeen!!!!!”
    For once, that statement would be uttered in truth.

  10. DJ Allyn,  ITW Comment by DJ Allyn, ITW

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    You just knew I would have something to say, didn’t you? :em99:

    Not being a Ron Paul fan, he is right on a few things.

    You see, if it wasn’t for us Evil Americans, the terrorists wouldn’t harm us at all.

    It isn’t “us Evil Americans”, it is our foreign policies in the region over the past sixty or so years. We’ve been yanking the chains of those people for a long time. Iran, Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria, Libia — you name it. We come in with some short-sighted policy, without looking at the possible consequences in the short or long term, and act surprised when one day it comes to bite us on the ass.

    We created bin Laden and Saddam Hussein. At one time we gave them both money and materiel and they fought our proxy wars.

    When they were no longer useful to us, we turned our backs on them.

    We have this tendency to prop up dictators we like to go after tyrants we don’t. We overthrew a democratically elected government in Iraq and installed a dictator-puppet who would not nationalize their our oil. Iranians have had that in their craw for quite a while until they decided to overthrow the Shah. We’ve been at odds with them since. We support a brutal regime in Saudi Arabia that beheads its ‘criminals’ in the public square every Friday. (Bush even holds hands and hugs one of their Princes) We support another military dictator in Pakistan, who is most likely keeping Osama bin Laden safe and comfortable until those times we need him to release a professional quality video to strike fear into the hearts of the American Sheeple. Boo!

    Don’t get me wrong here, I am NOT making excuses for the likes of bin Laden et al. What they did is inexcusable. What I am saying is that Ron Paul is right — we caused many of the problems that eventually have come back to hit us.

    I know you don’t care “why” they did this to us — and that is part of the problem. You don’t see that maybe we might need to look at our role in things to see if maybe we can prevent shit like this from happening in the future.

    We’ve made some serious mistakes in our foreign policies. We’ve caused some very serious problems to people in the Middle East. It is easy for a lot of you to sit in your comfortable chairs and say that these people should do this or need to do that because you base it on your own life experiences, not theirs.

    Furthermore, killing terrorists, destroying their camps, interdicting their supply routes and working to overthrow their regimes only makes them stronger.

    All the evidence points to our actions are actually increasing the number of terrorists rather than reducing them. While we have killed thousands of terrorists, terrorist attacks have been increasing every years since 2001.

    Our foreign policy of pre-emptive military action is probably the best recruiting tool the terrorists have. We are creating more terrorists than we are killing.

    So what Ron Paul is saying is correct. What he is proposing is probably NOT correct.

    While I, along with the majority of people in this country, would like to see us leave Iraq immediately, the reality is that we will have to be there in some shape or form for at least the next five years. With the exception of Kucinich and Gravel, I don’t think any of the other candidates would go for an immediate or total withdrawal of troops.

    But they would have a change of course as to the rebuilding of Iraq and movement towards leaving Iraq as quick as possible.

    I would like to see all contractors removed immediately, and those jobs turned over to Iraqis. I would also scrap the current government and install a new interim government made up of Iraqis chosen by Iraqis. I would get out of the way and re-deploy along the borders of Iraq, to keep out the unwanted riff-raff. I would let the Iraqis deal with their internal struggles and day-to-day security.

    Also, if the Iraqis want to nationalize their oil — LET THEM. It is theirs.

    If they want to normalize relations with Syria and Iran — LET THEM.

    If they ask us to leave their country — LEAVE.

  11. LC Cheapshot911, Dept. of Redneck Tech Comment by LC Cheapshot911, Dept. of Redneck Tech

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    The fountainhead of this insanity is the philosophy of pragmatism which, roughly, is ‘do what works today, the hell with the future’

    Minor note,,in their minds (yeah, jus’ call me Swami) it’s their only path to the future.

    But from MY perspective,,and apparently many others,,it’s just as you say.

    That, and a fear of departing from their party line is the demon we face.

  12. Mad Insomniac Comment by Mad Insomniac

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    I really did like what Paul had to say when I first heard about him - small constitutional government, less spending, lower taxes, less bureaucratic intrusion, no more blank checks for friendly dictators - but this is the exact thing that was a deal-breaker so far as I was concerned, even though I agreed with him on many other issues.

    This pie-in-the-sky argument that the desert would somehow bloom if only we’d just leave - it’s patent nonsense. How in the hell do people come up with this crap? :em98:

  13. Mad Insomniac Comment by Mad Insomniac

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    I know you don’t care “why” they did this to us — and that is part of the problem.

    Huh?

    We understand very well “why” “they” did this. They did it because they thought that they could get away with it - a fairly logical conclusion given flaccid U. S. policy of the previous 20-odd years - the Tehran embassy takeover, the Beirut marine barracks attack, Somalia, Khobar Towers, the embassy bombings in Tanzania and Kenya, USS Cole.

    The only way to stop it is to make the terrorists scared spitless to strike us - by imparting the certain knowledge that, if they do, (1) their efforts will be futile and (2) they and everything they value will be utterly obliterated - with no-one left alive to pray for the dead. After that knowledge is imparted, we can hold out the olive branch of education, technical assistance, etc. as we did with Germany and Japan 60 years ago.

    Would any sane person argue that the Holocaust was “blowback” from the Treaty of Versailles, or that the Rape of Nanking was caused by U. S. or Chinese trade policies toward Japan in the 1920s and 30s? No, I didn’t think so.

    Evil doesn’t need provocation, only pretext.

  14. jaybear Comment by jaybear

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    DJ,

    We created bin Laden and Saddam Hussein. At one time we gave them both money and materiel and they fought our proxy wars.

    When they were no longer useful to us, we turned our backs on them.

    We didn’t create nor did we support Bin Laden, we supported the tribes that made up the Northern Alliance in Afghanistan. These same tribes wanted nothing to do with the mujahedeen of which Bin Laden was a part. As for Saddam Hussein, he came to power in a coup in the 60’s…unsupported by us eeeevil Americans. We financed and supplied him with missiles and other armaments in his war with Iran in the 80’s. It was a matter of which was the baddest guy in that region. We did not create him either, if you look at his arsenal all of it is Russian made…from tanks to rifles to aircraft…except for the French Mirage jets that he had.

    I know you don’t care “why” they did this to us — and that is part of the problem. You don’t see that maybe we might need to look at our role in things to see if maybe we can prevent shit like this from happening in the future.

    Oh, I know “why” they hit us….they hit us because we are the Great Satan, the purveyor of evil in the world. Why just look at all of the people who are lining up to leave this shit hole country for greener pastures in Cuba and Mexico and….and…….oh wait, that ain’t happening is it?

    Personally Dave, I don’t care WHY they hit us. the fact that they DID hit us is enough for me. But what really galls me is WHO they hit, at least the Japanese had the courtesy to hit a military target on Dec 7th…they didn’t target downtown Honolulu. I find it deeply offensive that women and children are the deliberate targets of these poor victims of our foreign policy. I also find it deeply offensive that the leftists in our country use those innocents as political pawns, they care nothing for the shattered lives or the families left behind…they are only interested in the political points to be scored by stepping on their warm bodies.

    All the evidence points to our actions are actually increasing the number of terrorists rather than reducing them. While we have killed thousands of terrorists, terrorist attacks have been increasing every years since 2001.

    Stats please? are you talking about the attacks in the War Zones? when was the last attack in Europe? or Japan? or America?

    Our foreign policy of pre-emptive military action is probably the best recruiting tool the terrorists have. We are creating more terrorists than we are killing.

    so would you rather we take a reactive military posture? only acting when a city block is burning or a cruise ship is blown up? How many civilian deaths are you willing to accept while the military sits at the ready aiming over there…then over that way…then back over this a way!!!
    :em96:
    I’d rather hit the terrorists first, a reeling opponent is better than a ready opponent.

    I would like to see all contractors removed immediately.

    replaced by whom? all of the graduates of the technical school/madrasas that flourish in that region? teaching engineering and literature and medicine and bomb making?

    I would also scrap the current government and install a new interim government made up of Iraqis chosen by Iraqis

    The Iraqis have had three elections since 2004. I don’t think Diebold had anything to do with the voting over there so I can’t see why you don’t acknowledge their votes….

    Also, if the Iraqis want to nationalize their oil — LET THEM. It is theirs.

    We’re trying, the jihadis keep blowing the pipelines

    If they want to normalize relations with Syria and Iran — LET THEM.

    The everyday Iraqi doesn’t want that, they see Iran and Syria as hostile to their sovereignty

    If they ask us to leave their country — LEAVE.

    The government and the tribes want us to stay, we’ve said that we will leave when they ask us to.

    Dave
    , maybe I’m getting older or grumpier but lately I’ve found it increasingly difficult to accept your views as your own. I respect you so much for your intellect and logic but have found that lacking in your posts lately. Repeating the street protestor talking points like you’ve done lately just doesn’t do your intelligence and fine debating skills justice. You’re smarter than them man, that’s why I miss what you used to bring to the debate.

    sorry if I’m a little harsh in my criticism

  15. LC Cheapshot911, Dept. of Redneck Tech Comment by LC Cheapshot911, Dept. of Redneck Tech

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    ‘Can’t tell if DJ’s just keeping the fire burnin’, or just not engaging the massive strategy gaps, considering what he considers considerations, wily critter him.

    Meanwhile The Governator keeps his constituents from committing mass treason,,vetoing the notion of letting the public demand immediate withdrawal.

    The Iraq war measure, put before the Legislature by Senate President Pro Tem Don Perata, D-Oakland, was intended to make California voters the first in the nation to consider a withdrawal resolution.

    What a propaganda bonanza they would deliver.
    If Ah-nold were to arrange for charges of treason against the bills author,,I’d just have to get up and find a cork to pop.
    Then another cork gets popped when they pull the lever.

  16. hOOt Gibson Comment by hOOt Gibson

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    Ron Paul is a perfect Presidential canidate…for the DNC.

    hOOt

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    Would any sane person argue that the Holocaust was “blowback” from the Treaty of Versailles,

    I thought it was pretty well accepted that one of the major causes behind WWII was that Germany’s population felt mistreated at the ending of WWI. The diplomatic “smackdown” that Germany got after WWI made a good talking point for Hitler in his rise to power. Once Hitler was in office and had support for building up the war machine, against the Treaty or Versailles, the walk down the path to WWII had started which in turn opened up the opportunity for Hitler’s Holocaust.

    I guess I’m insane.

  18. LC Mike in Chi Comment by LC Mike in Chi

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    If only more media outlets were as prompt, courteous and helpful in their self-corrections, then…

    However, true to their socialist nature, they are truth (as in Pravda) incarnate.
    So, LC BobO, here’s a bit of sleuthness from Biassed BBC callin’ ‘em out for their sneaky patronizing apology.

    It is my understanding that it was written on the day of the attacks back in 2001.

    Well Sinead, this statement of yours is flat out wrong, and quite obviously so. The whole ‘guide’ is riddled with contradictions to your assertion (see here and here for the guide’s original content). On the day of the attacks no one knew who was responsible. No one knew there were 19 hijackers. No one knew that one of the hijackers was Mohammed Atta (pictured on the ‘Who did it’ page - see Google cache). The same page also states:

    In May 2006, a man called Zacarias Moussaoui…

    …which was clearly not written before June 2006. Even the page most complained about, the ‘Why did they do it’ page, states:

    When the attacks happened in 2001…

    …so it clearly wasn’t written in 2001. The Last updated: timestamp on that page (which we know is manually set rather than automatically generated, thus enabling BBC stealth edits) baldly states June 20 2007 16:40 GMT! (I’ve added the ‘Last updated’ timestamps to the post below recording the original ‘guide’ content, just so there’s no more argument on this point).

    There is a bit more, of course, w/links and updates…
    Mike H. in Chicago

  19. DJ Allyn,  ITW Comment by DJ Allyn, ITW

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    Personally Dave, I don’t care WHY they hit us.

    I know you don’t, and I said as much. Most of you don’t. It is why you tend to get the reasons all wrong, because you are guessing at them.

    They hate us because we are the “great satan”? They tend to like us, they just don’t like what our government has done to them. They wouldn’t care one way or the other about us if they weren’t being shit on by us.

    We used the people of Afghanistan to fight the Soviet occupation. Do you think we really cared about the people? No, we were more intent on fighting the Soviets, using Afghans as out soldiers. The moment the Soviets left, we hightailed it also, leaving the people of Afghanistan holding nothing but their dicks.

    We supported Iraq in their fight against Iran. We didn’t do the fighting, but we might as well have.

    We currently support one of the most brutal regimes in the Middle East: Saudi Arabia. That is a thought not lost on many — including Osama bin Laden.

    These people don’t hate us, they hate our government’s policies towards them. They don’t hate our freedoms, or our excesses, as long as they aren’t at the expense of them.

    This is what you are not considering. It isn’t something you are told, or that you pay attention to. All you see is the end result, and make rash assumptions as to why it came to this.

    But what really galls me is WHO they hit, at least the Japanese had the courtesy to hit a military target on Dec 7th…they didn’t target downtown Honolulu.

    You are comparing a well-disciplined military with a tiny group of rag-tag misfits? The Japanese was a nation, these nineteen fuckweasles were just that: fuckweasles. They didn’t have the benefit of an army, navy, or air force. They really had no other means of attack at their disposal. There wasn’t a war in the area they could attack our military, so they settled for a target that was sure to draw us to them.

    They knew that they couldn’t just bring us down with four planes into buildings. But the did know that if even ONE plane hit a target, we would moblize our military and go after them.

    The thing is, nobody has ever conquered Afghanistan. Ruled, yes, conquered no. We certainly don’t control much there now.

    They manipulated us into a war on two fronts in the Middle East — it was something they wanted, and Osama knew Bush was the man to do it. (If you spent half the time hearing what he has been saying all these years, you would recognize what he managed to do here)

    Fanusi brought up Sun Tzu and the Art of War. In addition to saying that you either wipe out your enemy completely, or wait until you can do so, he also said:

    If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles. If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat. If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle.

    Part of that knowledge is to know how your enemy thinks, and what drives him to do what he does. You don’t care why these people do what they are doing? Then expect it to continue on and on until you do. If knowledge could prevent a future attack, would you at least entertain it?

    Our own Revolutionary war was fought through what could be described as “terrorism”. Both sides were guilty of it. Same with the war of 1812, and our own Civil War. Then there were the Indian wars.

    All of that was just in our little span of existence.

    You act as if the tactic of Terrorism is something new. As long as there have been wars, there has been terrorist acts.

    Now before you misunderstand what I’ve been saying, I am NOT condoning the actions of OBL or any terrorist. I am merely pointing out what causes these people to act out and how our foreign policies sometimes have unexpected consequences further down the road.

    THIS is what Ron Paul was talking about — and he is right. Much of what we do in the world have consequences we never take into consideration.

    This GWOT is one of them. We are creating more problems than we are solving. It might be a great idea to try and bring on the Rapture for some of you, but for the rest of us who occupy this world, we would rather it would all go away.

    Ron Paul is a perfect Presidential canidate…for the DNC.

    Actually hOOt, if it wasn’t for his stance on the war, he would probably be your perfect candidate. He is waaaaay too Libertarian for the DNC. I know that he has gotten the attention of a lot of Progressives, but only on the issue of the war and our involvment in foreign affairs.

  20. Emperor Misha I Comment by Emperor Misha I

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    I thought it was pretty well accepted that one of the major causes behind WWII was that Germany’s population felt mistreated at the ending of WWI. The diplomatic “smackdown” that Germany got after WWI made a good talking point for Hitler in his rise to power. Once Hitler was in office and had support for building up the war machine, against the Treaty or Versailles, the walk down the path to WWII had started which in turn opened up the opportunity for Hitler’s Holocaust.

    I guess I’m insane.

    No you’re not, because your summary is pretty much spot on.

    The difference is that nobody sane would suggest that the better path to have followed would be to have given the Germans a big wet kiss for causing WWI, let them keep all their territories and not pay a dime in reparations.

    The difference is that nobody sane would excuse Hitler’s actions with the overly harsh terms of Versailles.

    Causation does not imply justification, nor does caving into your enemies’ demands equal victory. That’s commonly known as defeat.

    Also, history shows that caving doesn’t solve problems with aggressive psychopaths, it exacerbates them.

    Exhibit A: The abandonment of the Sudetenland and endless concessions to Hitler. Did those encourage or discourage the Austrian corporal?

    Discuss.

  21. Panzermann403 Comment by Panzermann403

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    Emperor

    The difference is that nobody sane would excuse Hitler’s actions with the overly harsh terms of Versailles.

    That’s pretty much the generally accepted point of view in Germany as well. Versailles and the terms of the peace after 1918 were one of Hitler’s major talking/leverage points in his quest for total political control.

    However, the total and eternal blame for electing that hapless son a bitch to Reichskanzler and handing him a blank check for annihilation lies with Germany alone. It was the political decision of the German people at the time. We take the blame for this. Nobody else. Period.

    This is not to say that the displacements of Germans from the occupied areas after WW2 were not a crime. But that’s a separate discussion.

  22. hOOt Gibson Comment by hOOt Gibson

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    As Ronald Reagan once said…..”To go on hoping that someday, someway, someone will make things right, is to go on feeding the crocodile, hoping he will eat you last….but eat you he will”

    He hit the gutless left, and even more gutless Liberal-atarians like Ron Paul, and his ilk right on the button.

    hOOt

  23. BobO Comment by BobO

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    Mike,

    Thanks for the follow-up..and to the Biassed BBC for their scrutiny. I knew it was too good to be true!!!

  24. jaybear Comment by jaybear

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    DJ sez:

    You are comparing a well-disciplined military with a tiny group of rag-tag misfits? The Japanese was a nation, these nineteen fuckweasles were just that: fuckweasles. They didn’t have the benefit of an army, navy, or air force. They really had no other means of attack at their disposal. There wasn’t a war in the area they could attack our military, so they settled for a target that was sure to draw us to them.

    No Dave, I’m comparing two “societies”, and their methods of going to war. Both attacked us for perceived wrongs. The Japanese wanted raw materials and to create an Asian Pacific sphere of influence, they saw us as an obstacle to that. The Arabs (to use the generic term), see us as the Anti-Mohammed, and going after their oil. What distinguishes the two is that, as atrocious as Japan was, they primarily went after military targets….they did not intentionally blow up marketplaces or schools or groups of civilians as a strategy for success.

    Why so many people on the left cut these animals so much slack is beyond me. They oppose EVERY social “norm” that the left upholds…i.e…they kill homosexuals, they kill women for not covering every inch of their body, they subjugate their women at every turn, they kill drug users, they are the epitome of racists. I’m just appalled that the oh so tolerant left can give these beasts a pass all the time. Talk about hypocrisy.

  25. Mad Insomniac Comment by Mad Insomniac

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    Well well well then - I guess I stirred the pot pretty good. Thank you, Your Imperial Highness, for clarifying my point - I did a fly-by and I wasn’t very specific.

    The terms of the Versailles Treaty were onerous for Germany (thanks a lot, Georges Clemenceau), but this justifies drafting of a “sunset clause” in the postwar period. No sane person would argue that it justifies the slaughter of millions of people.

    I still maintain that the “blowback” principle is a bit like blaming Jamestown for Brian DePalmnut’s “Redacted” movie. After all… the Jamestown colonists landed in America, which eventually led to the founding of the United States, which led to Hollywood, which led to crappy movies… and the whole thing could have been prevented by just staying in England. This is the sort of pseudo-logic we hear from bin Laden and from the militant Left.

  26. Xystus Comment by Xystus

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    M.I’s comment on F.K.’s is similar to what I had in mind:

    I still maintain that the “blowback” principle is a bit like blaming Jamestown for Brian DePalmnut’s “Redacted” movie. After all… the Jamestown colonists landed in America, which eventually led to the founding of the United States, which led to Hollywood, which led to crappy movies… and the whole thing could have been prevented by just staying in England. This is the sort of pseudo-logic we hear from bin Laden and from the militant Left.

    BTW we didn’t fund the Talibandits. They showed up in the mid-90s to pick up the pieces of Selfdesrtuctistan.

  27. psychochick Comment by psychochick

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    This was the weirdest thing. I looked up “fascism” on YouTube and checked out a satirical video mocking people for being so lazy about voting when you could just have F and not be bothered with it. Then when that was done, there were all these promos for Ron Paul videos! I thought it was really odd that they would pop up following a fascist thread. He seems odd to me, but not especially fascist.