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Anti-Idiotarian Rottweiler » Cold Cash Jefferson Goes With The “Monty Python Parrot Defense”
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Just when you think that you’ve heard every “argument” by a defense lawyer asking a judge to toss out a cut ‘n’ dried case, along comes William “Chocolate City’s Ice Cream Man” Jefferson and his comedy writer lawyer come up with one that makes even his namesake’s, Slick Willie of the Bent Dick’s™I did not have sexual relations with that woman, Mizz Blewinski.” defense, seem almost Aristotelian.

ALEXANDRIA, Va. (AP) — A Louisiana congressman caught on tape accepting a $100,000 cash payment…

First off, since his party affiliation wasn’t mentioned within the first three words of the article, we can be assured that he’s NOT a Republican…

…should not have been charged with bribery because technically, such an act is closer to influence peddling than bribery, defense lawyers argued Friday.

Go on and laugh. We’ll wait for you to catch your breath…

Lawyers for Democratic Rep. William Jefferson made no admission that Jefferson engaged in improper conduct. But defense attorney Amy Jackson argued that even if the government’s allegations are true, they do not constitute bribery under federal law.

Uh-huh. And Rep. Jefferson vigorously defended Randy “Duke” Cunningham during his “influencing troubles“, didn’t he?

“We think using influence is not a bribe,” Jackson told U.S. District Judge T.S. Ellis III in seeking to have some of the charges dismissed.

Stop it! You’re KILLING us, here!

“No, no, he’s not dead, he’s, he’s restin’!”

Prosecutors scoffed at the argument, and Ellis seemed skeptical. He offered several hypothetical situations that he likened to the conduct alleged in Jefferson’s case and questioned whether such situations did not amount to bribery.

That’s “judicial politeness” for “You’re out of your fucking MIND if you think I’m going to fall for THAT steaming pile of bovine excrement!

Or, in Pythonese: “Look, matey, I know a dead parrot when I see one, and I’m looking at one right now.”

Jackson maintained that federal law defines bribery as receiving payment for an official act. Congress spells out influence peddling as improper in its ethics rules but specifically neglects to do so under the bribery statute, she said.

If Jefferson had taken money in exchange for sponsoring legislation or voting a particular way on a specific bill, it would be a bribe, Jackson said. But she contended that the misdeeds prosecutors allege - helping to broker business deals in Africa in exchange for hundreds of thousands of dollars in payments - fall outside that definition.

Soooooo, according to her “logic“, as long as a Congresscritter doesn’t sponsor or vote on a bill, he or she can accept any amount of money from anyone in exchange for their “influence” on anything… Where do we sign up for THIS gig?

“We must apply the law as it is written, not as the Department of Justice wants it to be read or …

Funny, that’s not how Cold Cash™’s party treats certain amendments of the Constitution…

not even as a commonsense interpretation of right or wrong might think it should be read,” she said.

Commonsense” and “Louisiana Dhimmicrap” don’t belong in the same galactic quadrant, much less the same courtroom.

Prosecutor Mark Lytle cited several legal precedents that he said differ with the defense interpretation, and said Jefferson’s efforts to secure business deals qualify as abuse of his official duties by helping only those constituents who paid him money.

We’re willing to wager quite a large sum of Imperial sesterti that one of those “precedents that differ with the defense interpretation” was none other than Duke Cunningham’s.

The 16-count indictment alleges 11 separate schemes in which Jefferson is to have used his influence as co-chairman of the congressional Africa Investment and Trade Caucus to broker deals in Nigeria, Ghana, Cameroon and other African nations.

If it comes out that this bastard was helping spammers, even the death penalty is too good for him!

Ellis did not rule on the defense motion to dismiss some of the counts in the indictment,…

He was too busy laughing his ass off and waving his nether regions in the face of defense counsel…

…which alleges Jefferson received more than $500,000 in bribes and demanded millions more between 2000 and 2005.

That’s a whoooole lotta “influence” right there. On the Non-Stoopid Side of the Idiotarian Parallel Universal Divide™ we call that “grift & graft“. In layman’s terms, it’s called “bribery“.

While defense lawyers are challenging large swaths of evidence, they have not sought to suppress the most notorious piece - the videotape of Jefferson taking a $100,000 cash payment from a cooperating witness, followed by a raid on the congressman’s Washington home in which $90,000 of the money was recovered from his freezer.

Not that they didn’t TRY, mind you… They just couldn’t get in anymore of their idiocy with the judge’s spasms of laughter and “Can you BELIEVE this shit?!?!” comments to the prosecutors.

Jefferson, a nine-term congressman, attended Friday’s hearing but did not speak during it and did not comment afterward.

It’s kind of hard for dead parrots to talk.

F.E.T.E.

65 Responses to “Cold Cash Jefferson Goes With The “Monty Python Parrot Defense””
  1. LC Gunsniper Comment by LC Gunsniper

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    I’m hoping that the law kicks WJ’s ass so hard he’s left “pining for the fjords.”

  2. LC Mrs. M-ITT™ Comment by LC Mrs. M-ITT™

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    influence peddling

    Sounds like a hell of alot of back peddling to me.

    So does this mean that all the Repubs that got money from Jack Abramoff can use this defense? Better watch out what you wish for Dems….the same defense YOU use can be used by the other side too. Better to throw Jefferson to the lions than to fall on your own sword right?

  3. Hardclimber54 Comment by Hardclimber54

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    That is what happens when politicians see themselves above the unwashed masses they are supposed to represent! Nothing is sacred, nothing is illegal, nothing is “too nice”, nothing is out of reach.

    Excuse-me for asking, but from what I have been reading on the politics in the U.S., is being a lobotomized, crooked, certified liar, dishonest slimeball, money-grabbing pus-filled scum bag a pre-requisite to be a Democrat??? :em38: I DO realize that many politicians are exactly as described above, regardless of party affiliation, but Sweet Swinging Mama, this seems to go on and on with that bunch!

    The defense attorney’s “arguments” seem so infantile and out of touch with common sense and reality as to being pulled directly out of an episode of Star Trek :em99: Someone, anyone, please keep an eye on this and keep us poor LCs posted on this matter. I, for one, CAN’T wait to see the outcome of this farce :em41:

    By everything that is sacred to me, this just takes the cake!

  4. DJ Allyn,  ITW Comment by DJ Allyn, ITW

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    First off, since his party affiliation wasn’t mentioned within the first three words of the article, we can be assured that he’s NOT a Republican…

    Which is refreshing in the sense that we needed a break from hearing about all of the Republican scandals…

    This is standard arguments on the motions calendar. It is legal attempt to chip away and shake something loose before plea agreement or a trial. Call it jockeying for position.

    All defendants in these types of cases do this. Every now and then a ludicrous argument might actually prevail, and that is the reason why attorneys try such tactics.

    It is all part of putting on a “vigorous defense” which also preserves an issue on record for possible appeal.

    I think Duke Cunningham’s attorney tried to argue the same thing in a preliminary hearing as well — with no success. But it won’t stop future cases from arguing the same thing in hopes of finding a sympathetic judge.

    It won’t happen in this case. Jefferson is toast.

  5. Unregistered Comment by rstephens

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    DJ,

    Which is refreshing in the sense that we needed a break from hearing about all of the Republican scandals…

    Are you really this stupid or do you have to work on it to appear this out of the loop? He was not dening or even trying to imply that there are not Republicans involved in scandals. He was pointing out the bias in the media and how they report such incidents. As others have said, reading for comprehension-you should try it sometime. Or maybe if you would slow down and think instead of going with the knee jerk defend the dems reaction you seem to be so fond of.

  6. B.C., Imperial Torturer™ Comment by B.C., Imperial Torturer™

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    Which is refreshing in the sense that we needed a break from hearing about all of the Republican scandals…

    That’s “all of the accusations of scandal“. Just because the LefTards scream “scandal” when a Republican spits on the grass, it doesn’t mean that it’s an actual “scandal“. And when it comes to “hearing about all of the Republican scandal”, it could easily be argued that the reason you don’t hear as much about Donk scandals is that they’re hand-in-hand co-conspirators with the Lamestream Midiots™, when it comes to political scandal coverage.

    Look, Dave, I believe that corruption in politics is something that you, myself and most of us here can completely agree upon, with a few exceptions. When someone is caught with their hand in the cookie jar, they need to be punished. It’s just that we here see the Left continuously defending their scumbags in each and every instance, no matter how damning the evidence against them. When a Republican is caught red-handed, MOST of us here (there may be a few exceptions) feel that, whatever punishment it is that they get, they deserve, since they betrayed the trust of the people who put them in their position of power.

    That’s the thing that really chaps our asses about the likes of the Pimps o’ Poverty™ and the other defenders of various Donk shitbags around the country. They’ll pile on cops, Republican pols & innocent citizens at the drop of a hat (before any real evidence is presented) and then, after the facts of a case/incident come out, they not only don’t say “We were wrong.“, but they continue demonizing those innocents who’ve they’ve slandered and libeled and let the dirtbags slide without ever uttering a word condemning their false accusations or previous actions leading to the particular “incident” at hand.

    It’s the same thing with the voting shit that’s been around forever. Who in their right mind would consider Donks as “pure as the driven snow” when it comes to voting? If you’re looking for “scandal”, there is no bigger poster child for ballot box stuffing & “influence peddling” (aka “bribery“) than the Democrat party and that’s a long-established fact.

    Hell, we’ve heard for almost seven fucking years about “Every vote must count! Count every vote!” (EXCEPT those pesky overseas military absentee ballots.) They wanted to count every mutilated, folded & spindled ballot from just three heavily-Donk counties in SE Florida, even AFTER the LEGAL statutes required the counting to stop. But now, even as the Moonbats are still frothing over losing a certified election seven years ago, they are throwing out EVERY SINGLE VOTE FROM THEIR OWN PARTY IN FLORIDA, solely on the grounds of some NON-LEGAL, antiquated intra-party “rules”. Can you say “hypocrisy“?

    It’s that kind of blatant, bald-faced hypocrisy that drives us on this side of the aisle to bang our heads on the wall and ask “What color is the sky over the Stoopid Side of the Idiotarian Parallel Universal Divide™?

    It won’t happen in this case. Jefferson is toast.

    That’s what 100% of sentient beings thought about OJ, too.

    :em98:

  7. Unregistered Comment by Ignorant Mensan

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    C’mon folks! Doesn’t it depend on the meaning of the word “is”? That’s been tried before. Too bad for the Clintoon, it didn’t work, except in our “most prestigious deliberative in the world.” Don’t you have any respect for our gubmint? Whassa matta witcha?

    /do I need to?

  8. B.C., Imperial Torturer™ Comment by B.C., Imperial Torturer™

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    /do I need to?

    Most of us wudda gottit, but it never hurts to be doubly-damn sure.

    :em99: :em99: :em99:

  9. B.C., Imperial Torturer™ Comment by B.C., Imperial Torturer™

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    Oh, I almost forgot…

    This is standard arguments on the motions calendar. It is legal attempt to chip away and shake something loose before plea agreement or a trial. Call it jockeying for position.

    All defendants in these types of cases do this. Every now and then a ludicrous argument might actually prevail, and that is the reason why attorneys try such tactics.

    Even so, it doesn’t mean that we can’t (and WON’T) mock & ridicule, with extreme prejudice, such asinine assaults on our collective intelligence. That’s EXACTLY why we’ve been screaming for judicial reform for so long.

    Hell, even Fudgesicle Willie™’s own defense attorney made our case for us with her little gem..

    …not even as a commonsense interpretation of right or wrong might think it should be read…

    Back in a sane time, before activist judges worked hand-in-hand with defense attorneys to twist and manipulate the laws so that even the meaning of the word “is” was up for debate, the people (Read: Juries, judges & legislators) knew and used “common sense” when deciding between right and wrong and acted accordingly.

    These days, even if you’re caught red-handed (and on video) cutting off the heads of a bus-load of toddlers, you can get the right lawyers (with enough cash, mind you) to throw enough shit on the wall and argue “mitigating circumstances” and, if you get the right judge & jury, you have chance of being found “not guilty by reason of such & such” and be “treated” for whatever ails you, instead of being taken out and shot in the back of the head and buried in an unmarked septic tank.

    :em98:

  10. Ten-Ten Comment by Ten-Ten

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    That lawyer would try to turn a sodomy charge into “Following too closely”

    Johnnie Cochran would be proud.

  11. DJ Allyn,  ITW Comment by DJ Allyn, ITW

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    He was pointing out the bias in the media and how they report such incidents.

    You know, it might have made a good argument if they had identified Jefferson in the first paragraph, but they used the first paragraph as the hook.

    Something like this, to capture your attention:

    You know that idiot congressman who was caught stashing almost $100k in his freezer? Well you wouldn’t believe the argument playing out in court…

    See? Now there is another hook that captured your attention. Nowhere in that paragraph did I mention his political affiliation, nor did I even mention his name. But you knew exactly who I was talking about, didn’t you?

    But notice the third word in the second paragraph,just before they identified Jefferson:

    Lawyers for Democratic Rep. William Jefferson

    They didn’t waste any time letting you know this idiot was a Democrat. But first they wanted to tell you what kind of an idiot he was.

    You might call it ‘bias’, but the fact is, it accomplished the same result. You were able to associate the idiot with the fact that he was a democratic idiot.

    Sometimes it is the journey that is more entertaining.

    I don’t think bribery, graft, and corruption is exclusive to one party or another. But it is exclusive to power. If you have the influence and power, you are constantly tempted to cross the line.

    We agree that this particular idiot needs to go away for a very long time.

  12. Hardclimber54 Comment by Hardclimber54

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    DJ

    Sometimes it is the journey that is more entertaining.

    I don’t think bribery, graft, and corruption is exclusive to one party or another. But it is exclusive to power. If you have the influence and power, you are constantly tempted to cross the line.

    That is beautiful DJ. That puddle at my feet is from the tears you put in my eyes, no sarcasm intended…

    Wow, back off a sec here!!! I just agreed with all of your comments! I must have a doctor look into this, that can’t be normal :em99:

  13. B.C., Imperial Torturer™ Comment by B.C., Imperial Torturer™

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    Sometimes it is the journey that is more entertaining.

    We’d settle for “news” instead of “entertainment“, when it comes to our “news sources“.

    If I felt like it, (which I don’t) I could find a veritable cornucopia of articles where Republicans’ party affiliations are mentioned, not only in the headlines, but almost every paragraph in the articles, while finding another cornucopia of articles about Donks where you’d be scratching your head and trying to figure out exactly what their party affiliation is.

    That’s what we like to call “hidden bias“. Hell, many “journalists” might not even know that they’re doing it because their Leftist tendencies have been so deeply ingrained into their psyches that they, themselves, believe that they’re “unbiased“, when it’s plain to any and all outside observers that they’re far from it.

  14. Unregistered Comment by rstephens

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    DJ, What you say makes perfect sense except that is not what the mainstream media does. If it a Republican, they lead with Republican Congressman…, but if a Demo then that reference is buried if it appears at all. There are exceptions when they slip up and do not do it that way but those are rare. Admit it, you blew it.

  15. SoCalOilMan, LC Comment by SoCalOilMan, LC

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    If it comes out that this bastard was helping spammers, even the death penalty is too good for him!

    Well I’m gonna be laughing at you guys when I get my share of the $5.6 million from Mrs. Margaret Menbusa, daughter of a prominent Senigali official who was trapped with his rightfully earned monies.

    Any day now I should be rolling along in my new Corvette on my way to…Hold on, this is odd, my bank just called and I’m overdrawn, and my paycheck went in yeasterday….I’ll get back to you.

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    Anybody notice what Clinton’s first & middle names are?

    William Jefferson.

    Coincidence?

  17. DJ Allyn,  ITW Comment by DJ Allyn, ITW

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    We’d settle for “news” instead of “entertainment“, when it comes to our “news sources“.

    Yeah, well good luck with that. Ever since they put the profit motive into the news, we ended up with infotainment.

    Give me some crusty old guy sitting at a metal desk just telling me what happened today and I will be happy. Just the facts, man, just the facts.

    It would be nice for every network to be required to set aside one hour a day with no commercial interruptions and just tell us the unvarnished news. No glitz, no flash, just the straight news. They could spend 30 seconds on each news item, then move on to the next one. If that isn’t enough for you, then you could go in the internet and do your own reading.

    DJ, What you say makes perfect sense except that is not what the mainstream media does. If it a Republican, they lead with Republican Congressman…, but if a Demo then that reference is buried if it appears at all. There are exceptions when they slip up and do not do it that way but those are rare.

    Do you have some examples? Because I could show you the same kind of examples when Democrats ran the whole show, and were fucking up all over the place.

    Right now there are a rash of Republicans who are being caught with their pants down (figuratively and literal). Luck of the draw when your party is in the driver’s seat. But Democrats have also been in that driver’s seat and have gotten their cocks caught in the vice. When it becomes a pattern it is hard NOT to point out that “yet another Republican/Democrat” scandal has erupted.

    Have patience. These are politicians we are talking about here. Give it some time, and it will be a gaggle of Democrats involved in scandals.

    Admit it, you blew it.

    I don’t think so. Like I said, give it some time.

    BTW: If you have a “murder of crows”, a gaggle of geese, a herd of cows, what is it when you have a group of Republicans or a group of Democrats?

    Go ahead, have some fun with it.

    Some other variations:

    Group of politicians
    Group of Congresscritters
    Group of Senators

  18. Unregistered Comment by rstephens

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    Dj, If you need examples it only shows how biased you are that you haven’t noticed what we are talking about. You blew it again. Just admit it instead of making it worse every time you try to wiggle out of it.

  19. jaybear Comment by jaybear

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    DJ asks:

    BTW: If you have a “murder of crows”, a gaggle of geese, a herd of cows, what is it when you have a group of Republicans or a group of Democrats?

    a bail bondsmans motherlode?

    or howzabout:

    a dungheap of congressmen or a pantload of politicians

  20. B.C., Imperial Torturer™ Comment by B.C., Imperial Torturer™

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    Yeah, well good luck with that. Ever since they put the profit motive into the news, we ended up with infotainment.

    I’m sorry, I didn’t know that newswire services had gone for “infotainment” angle. Are you accusing such Socialist stalwarts as the NYSlimes, LASlimes, Roto Reuters and the Asphyxiated Piss of being “KKKorporate KKKapitalists” with a neo-KKKon, profit-driven agenda?

    Give me some crusty old guy sitting at a metal desk just telling me what happened today and I will be happy. Just the facts, man, just the facts.

    You mean like those Unbiased Bastions of Journaljizm™ such as Walter “Ho Chi Minh’s Best Friend” Cronkite & Dumb Blather?

    Right now there are a rash of Republicans who are being caught with their pants down (figuratively and literal). Luck of the draw when your party is in the driver’s seat. But Democrats have also been in that driver’s seat and have gotten their cocks caught in the vice. When it becomes a pattern it is hard NOT to point out that “yet another Republican/Democrat” scandal has erupted.

    Have patience. These are politicians we are talking about here. Give it some time, and it will be a gaggle of Democrats involved in scandals.

    I agree with you, up to a point, Dave. The only problem with your scenario is that you’ll STILL be hard-pressed to have the Lamestream Midiots™ covering the Donk scandals with the same verve & vigor that they do with Republican scandals.

    Face it, Jouranljizm Skoolz™ are rife with Socialist professors who do their damnedest to instill a hatred of all those who are, even slightly, to the right of Marx & Mao, into the hearts and minds of their students. No amount of spinning will disprove this dirty little fact.

    On a completely OT note, I hope you’re feeling better with each passing day. :em94:
    (That damned Bark isn’t going to fix itself. It’s completely FUBAR when accessed via FireFox.)
    :em98:

  21. Hardclimber54 Comment by Hardclimber54

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    jaybear, at the risk of repeating myself, how’bout:

    lobotomized, crooked, certified liar, dishonest slimeball, money-grabbing pus-filled scum bag

    No, I do not have a very high opinion of politicians, wherever they’re from or what party/political affiliation they’re part of…

    And, I am TRYING to be polite on top of it…

  22. jaybear Comment by jaybear

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    Hardclimber54 sez:

    And, I am TRYING to be polite on top of it…

    I have a sure cure for politeness towards these scum….visualize “murtha”.

    p.s.
    good re-write of the definition for politician.

  23. CiSSnarl5.7 Comment by CiSSnarl5.7

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    BTW: If you have a “murder of crows”, a gaggle of geese, a herd of cows, what is it when you have a group of Republicans or a group of Democrats?

    Hmmmmmmm a Target Rich Environment?

  24. Sir Guido Cabrone, LC, M.o.P. Comment by Sir Guido Cabrone, LC, M.o.P.

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    BTW: If you have a “murder of crows”, a gaggle of geese, a herd of cows, what is it when you have a group of Republicans or a group of Democrats?

    An EPA SuperFund site?

    Fertilizer on the hoof?

    A perfect target for an FAE?

  25. Sir Guido Cabrone, LC, M.o.P. Comment by Sir Guido Cabrone, LC, M.o.P.

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    Awright! What happened to it?

    Akismet again??

  26. Unregistered Comment by bruce

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    i am shocked to here that chocolate city has a corrupt rep. to go with a corrupt mayor,police chief and uncivilised inhabitants.we never should have pumped new orleans out we should have just filled it in and sent the perps looking for real jobs.

  27. Wild-Eyed Charlie Comment by Wild-Eyed Charlie

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    BTW: If you have a “murder of crows”, a gaggle of geese, a herd of cows, what is it when you have a group of Republicans or a group of Democrats?

    A “target” of politicians…

  28. DJ Allyn,  ITW Comment by DJ Allyn, ITW

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    You mean like those Unbiased Bastions of Journaljizm™ such as Walter “Ho Chi Minh’s Best Friend” Cronkite & Dumb Blather?

    I don’t know if you are old enough to remember the broadcasts of Walter Cronkite, Chet Huntley and David Brinkley.

    The Huntley/Brinkley Report was the preeminent news program on NBC throughout the fifties and sixties. Huntley retired in 1970 and died in 1974, and Brinkley went on until he died in 2003.

    Yes, Walter “came out” as a Liberal long after he retired from CBS. In the sixties and into the seventies, you never got the idea that any of the newscasters/reporters were of any particular political affiliation.

    It just wasn’t done that way in those days.

    Dan Rather, on the other hand was one of the first newscasters that you actually got an inkling of where he was coming from, starting back in 1968 during his coverage of the 1968 Democratic Convention. His style of reporting eventually paved the way for other “opinionated” news.

    The only problem with your scenario is that you’ll STILL be hard-pressed to have the Lamestream Midiots™ covering the Donk scandals with the same verve & vigor that they do with Republican scandals.

    Did you just become aware of the media since January 2001? Where were you during the Clinton years, and how the media ran with virtually every little scandal or rumor of scandal there was about Clinton? Everyone connected to the Clintons had cameras and mikes shoved up their asses. The press fell all over themselves to find something new and juicy about the Clintons to report on.

    On a completely OT note, I hope you’re feeling better with each passing day.

    I am able to sit up in the hot tub now. The problem is, I am going to have to hire someone to clear all the grape vines that have covered the hot tub area for the summer.

    Not only that, there are grapes all over the place.

    (That damned Bark isn’t going to fix itself. It’s completely FUBAR when accessed via FireFox.)

    I think I am going to need one of dem dar Havard and Yale sheepskins to fix that. :em99: After all, everyone knows you mesher intelligants by wher yu went ta callage. :em99: My two Bachelors and one Masters came from “inferior” colleges, and therefore I am too stoopit.

    Seriously? I spent the past six hours going through about 20000 lines of code in several plugins before I found the culprit.

    (one stinking little line of bad code)

  29. jaybear Comment by jaybear

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    DJ sez:

    Not only that, there are grapes all over the place.

    Deej, just max out the water temperature..shovel all the grapes in and start selling home made preserves :em93:

    glad you’re getting up and about

  30. DJ Allyn,  ITW Comment by DJ Allyn, ITW

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    Deej, just max out the water temperature..shovel all the grapes in and start selling home made preserves :em93:

    I was thinking of Lucille Ball coming back and stomping grapes for me.

  31. jaybear Comment by jaybear

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    I was thinking of Lucille Ball coming back and stomping grapes for me.

    gonna make a little VitaMeataVegaMin are ye’?

  32. Unregistered Comment by bruce

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    i remember cronkite and blather when they declared the 68 tet offensive A loss for america.i was looking at it from the sharp end of my bayonet and it sure looked like a win to me.we wiped out the viet cong they were rarely heard from after tet.we rolled over the north Vietnamese army had we gone north that would have been the end of the war.i knew that with the democrats in charge it would never happen. they were looking to lose,but i expect that from the party of alger hiss.

  33. LC HOGHEAD II Comment by LC HOGHEAD II

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    Photo Sharing and Video Hosting at Photobucket“>

  34. LC HOGHEAD II Comment by LC HOGHEAD II

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    Sorry DJ but your party REELECTS criminals while the GOP replaces them

  35. LC HJ Caveman82952 Comment by LC HJ Caveman82952

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    I was thinking of Lucille Ball coming back and stomping grapes for me.

    I remember that episode, Dave…..you are correct in your assessment of news broadcasters from back then. I remember them too, very well. I had little idea of Cronkite being liberal until later. Huntley/Brinkley was simply the competition. But along came Rather, and I’m not one bit sorry his career ended the way it did. All the way back to the ‘68 convention. Now things have changed, the Internet providing an exchange of ideas of like minded people, such as this blog. I found a home here and plan on staying…..
    You have a nice looking yard there, Dave……

  36. Unregistered Comment by Lord Spatula I, King & Tyrant

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    I think I am going to need one of dem dar Havard and Yale sheepskins to fix that. After all, everyone knows you mesher intelligants by wher yu went ta callage. My two Bachelors and one Masters came from “inferior” colleges, and therefore I am too stoopit.

    News flash for you, Dr. Dumbfuck: They do measure you by where you got your degrees.

    If you don’t believe me, we can try and find someone with a combination of two bachelor’s/one master’s from Harvard & Yale, have you both apply for the same job and see who gets it.

    You may be okay with code, but that’s about all you’re good for - you’re full of shit otherwise.

  37. thepresenceusmc Comment by thepresenceusmc

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    The hair has been officially split. Last time I checked, selling influence WAS bribery, the difference being academic and legalbeagleease. Either way, draw and quarter the bastard.

  38. LC 0311 crunchie Comment by LC 0311 crunchie

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    Deej, glad yer doing better. Hang in their ya damn librul.

  39. Unregistered Comment by douglasvgibbs

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    The Left doesn’t do anything wrong because if they do they just change the rules and definitions. Works for them everytime.

  40. DJ Allyn,  ITW Comment by DJ Allyn, ITW

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    Sorry DJ but your party REELECTS criminals while the GOP replaces them

    Do you know how silly that sounds?

    You have a nice looking yard there, Dave……

    That’s just outside of my bedroom. There are three acres of woods and a lake behind that.

    News flash for you, Dr. Dumbfuck: They do measure you by where you got your degrees.

    Do tell.

    You’ve been insinuating all this time that intelligence is measured by what degrees you have and where you received them. At least that is your grasp of what intelligence is.

    One of the stupidest people I know has a law degree from Harvard, and one of the most intelligent people I know only has a high school diploma — from 1939. He is worth somewhere in the neighborhood of $180 million that he acquired from scratch.

    If you don’t believe me, we can try and find someone with a combination of two bachelor’s/one master’s from Harvard & Yale, have you both apply for the same job and see who gets it.

    Depending on the position and the company, that might be true. But a lot of times a Harvard or Yale diploma might actually be a liability because a employer might not want to pay what a typical Ivy League degree might demand.

    Secondly, while Harvard and Yale are both known for their medical and law departments, they tend to lag behind other schools when it comes to computer sciences and social sciences, where I hold my degrees in.

    I notice you are awful damn quiet about your book larnin’ Jethro. Not that it really matters to me. Like I said, having a degree isn’t an indication as to how intelligent a person is. Thinking it does is just a sign of ignorance.

    You may be okay with code, but that’s about all you’re good for - you’re full of shit otherwise.

    G’wan, admit it — I am fucking awesome with code, and I am much better at pushing your buttons. :em99:

  41. Unregistered Comment by Sunfish

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    An open sewer of politicians?

    A steaming pile of Republicans?

    An infected pustule of Democrats?

    Dave,
    Empty the hot tub. Throw the grapes in. Mash well, and add yeast. Cover it for a year, and bring a straw when you come back.

    Trust me on this. I am a perfeshunal.

  42. Unregistered Comment by PhantomOfTheOpera

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    BTW: If you have a “murder of crows”, a gaggle of geese, a herd of cows, what is it when you have a group of Republicans or a group of Democrats?

    Hmmm….

    Group of Republicans = Cartel, Conspiracy, Firm or Board

    Group of Democrats = Daycare, Ward, College or Protest

    Okay, let’s see how they play out in practice….

    “A conspiracy of Republican leaders today vowed to hold fast against the Dem’s plan to…” Yeah, that one seems to be okay…

    “Nancy Pelosi and a daycare of her supporters were up in arms today over the….” Yep, that one flies, too.

    *snicker*

    All right now dammit, you woke up the evil side of my brain. I can have WAY too much fun with this….

  43. 1oldleg Comment by 1oldleg

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    OK chilrenses,
    Today, we’re gonna conjagate tha verb ‘to be’
    Ready?

    I be,
    We be,
    She be,

    Dats what dey be teachin’ us.

    OK Chilrenses, who can use this verb in a sentence?

    “Jefferson is a crook, an’ HE BE GUILTY!”

    Bailiff, whack his pee pee!

  44. Unregistered Pingback by William Jefferson attempts Clintonian extraction

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    […] to redefine “bribery” isn’t going to work […]

  45. B.C., Imperial Torturer™ Comment by B.C., Imperial Torturer™

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    Bailiff, whack his pee pee!

    It’s been quite some time since someone used a Cheech & Chong reference here. Congrats, 1oldleg!

    :em99: :em69:

  46. Unregistered Comment by Lord Spatula I, King & Tyrant

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    You’ve been insinuating all this time that intelligence is measured by what degrees you have and where you received them. At least that is your grasp of what intelligence is.

    I’m not insinuating it, dumbass - I’m stating it plain. Unlike you, I happen to live in the Real World™.

    One of the stupidest people I know has a law degree from Harvard,

    Lemme guess - his name would be Bush, wouldn’t it? We already know what your bong-infested mind thinks of the President, fucknead.

    and one of the most intelligent people I know only has a high school diploma — from 1939. He is worth somewhere in the neighborhood of $180 million that he acquired from scratch.

    Good for him. He’s the exception that proves the rule. Do you have a point, other than the one on top of your head?

    Depending on the position and the company, that might be true. But a lot of times a Harvard or Yale diploma might actually be a liability because a employer might not want to pay what a typical Ivy League degree might demand.

    Ah, so what you’re saying is…is…IS THAT IT MATTERS WHERE YOU GET YOUR DEGREE?!?!?!? THAT A HARVARD OR YALE DEGREE IS WORTH MORE?!?!?!?!

    Game, set & match, shit-for-brains.

    I notice you are awful damn quiet about your book larnin’ Jethro.

    45 some-odd hours of college. Mostly JUCO. Amazing that I can still spell rings around your coked-up ass, isn’t it?

    But then again, I’m not the one accusing Bush of being a dim bulb. I’m not the one accusing Limbaugh listeners of being stupid. I’m not the one calling Michelle Malkin an “airhead”, am I?

    (crickets)

    Mm-hm. Thought so.

    So until you get off that high horse, Short Bus, you’re gonna get it thrown in your face every time you question someone’s intelligence.

    As I said before - if you don’t like it, come down here and do something about it.

    G’wan, admit it — I am fucking awesome with code, and I am much better at pushing your buttons

    While hiding behind that ex-cop roomie of yours. Yeah, you’re a regular fuckin’ hero.

  47. sig94 Comment by sig94

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    If you have a “murder of crows”, a gaggle of geese, a herd of cows, what is it when you have a group of Republicans or a group of Democrats?

    A pox of politicians.

  48. Lady Heather Comment by Lady Heather

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    While hiding behind that ex-cop roomie of yours. Yeah, you’re a regular fuckin’ hero.

    Bacon,

    Who do I write the $10 check out to?

  49. B.C., Imperial Torturer™ Comment by B.C., Imperial Torturer™

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    Bacon,

    Who do I write the $10 check out to?

    Heather, it’s Cold Cash only.
    :em99: :em99: :em99:

  50. Unregistered Comment by Special Ed

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    I have little to say and less time these days. But I’m getting almighty tired of the Democrat Party or Democrats being identified as “Democratic“.
    Especially since such a descriptor is wildly inappropriate.

  51. Mike M Comment by Mike M

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    I have little to say and less time these days. But I’m getting almighty tired of the Democrat Party or Democrats being identified as “Democratic“.

    Here it is again, Special Ed:

    Democratic House staffers, who were attending the Bank of America 500 race as part of a fact-finding mission of health and homeland security issues, took the unusual step of getting inoculated against several rare diseases and a sexually transmitted illness.

    The Washington Times is guilty of a grammatical faux pas, but the ‘Rats sink to a new low.

  52. DJ Allyn,  ITW Comment by DJ Allyn, ITW

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    Lemme guess - his name would be Bush, wouldn’t it? We already know what your bong-infested mind thinks of the President, fucknead.

    Bzzzzt! Wrong Bluto. First, I do not know Bush. Secondly, he doesn’t have a Law degree. Perhaps if you had read a little closer, you would have determined that I wasn’t talking about George Bush.

    I’m not insinuating it, dumbass - I’m stating it plain. Unlike you, I happen to live in the Real World™.

    Using your criteria for intelligence, John Kerry — who graduated from Yale, and Bill Clinton who graduated from Georgetown University, won a Rhodes Scholarship to Oxford, and also graduated from Yale are probably held in very high esteem by you, right?

    I will make it easy for you. There are two major “consensus” definitions of intelligence that have been proposed. First, a task force convened by the American Psychological Association in 1995 came out with this definition:

    Individuals differ from one another in their ability to understand complex ideas, to adapt effectively to the environment, to learn from experience, to engage in various forms of reasoning, to overcome obstacles by taking thought. Although these individual differences can be substantial, they are never entirely consistent: a given person’s intellectual performance will vary on different occasions, in different domains, as judged by different criteria. Concepts of “intelligence” are attempts to clarify and organize this complex set of phenomena. Although considerable clarity has been achieved in some areas, no such conceptualization has yet answered all the important questions and none commands universal assent. Indeed, when two dozen prominent theorists were recently asked to define intelligence, they gave two dozen somewhat different definitions.

    This was in response to an opinion piece published in the Wall Street Journal in 1994 which claimed to uphold the findings of the book “The Bell Curve” written by Psychologist Richard Hermstein and Charles Murray of the American Enterprise institute:

    The Meaning and Measurement of Intelligence

    1. Intelligence is a very general mental capability that, among other things, involves the ability to reason, plan, solve problems, think abstractly, comprehend complex ideas, learn quickly and learn from experience. It is not merely book learning, a narrow academic skill, or test-taking smarts. Rather, it reflects a broader and deeper capability for comprehending our surroundings — “catching on,” “making sense” of things, or “figuring out” what to do.
    2. Intelligence, so defined, can be measured, and intelligence tests measure it well. They are among the most accurate (in technical terms, reliable and valid) of all psychological tests and assessments. They do not measure creativity, character, personality, or other important differences among individuals, nor are they intended to.
    3. While there are different types of intelligence tests, they all measure the same intelligence. Some use words or numbers and require specific cultural knowledge (like vocabulary). Others do not, and instead use shapes or designs and require knowledge of only simple, universal concepts (many/few, open/closed, up/down).
    4. The spread of people along the IQ continuum, from low to high, can be represented well by the BELL CURVE (in statistical jargon, the “normal CURVE”). Most people cluster around the average (IQ 100). Few are either very bright or very dull: About 3% of Americans score above IQ 130 (often considered the threshold for “giftedness”), with about the same percentage below IQ 70 (IQ 70-75 often being considered the threshold for mental retardation).
    5. Intelligence tests are not culturally biased against American blacks or other native-born, English-speaking peoples in the U.S. Rather, IQ scores predict equally accurately for all such Americans, regardless of race and social class. Individuals who do not understand English well can be given either a nonverbal test or one in their native language.
    6. The brain processes underlying intelligence are still little understood. Current research looks, for example, at speed of neural transmission, glucose (energy) uptake, and electrical activity of the brain.

    Then there is the layman definition found in The Merriam-Webster Dictionary Online:

    “the ability to learn or understand or to deal with new or trying situations … also : the skilled use of reason”

    Regardless of which definition you want to use, you claim that you can determine intelligence by the school you graduated from is laughable.

    While there are probably hundreds of so-called “IQ Tests” out there, the most widely used and recognized tests are the following:

    Stanford-Binet Intelligence Scales (SB5), Fifth Edition (Ages 2 - 85)

    The test measures five areas:

    1. Fluid Reasoning (includes objects, matrices, verbal absurdities, analogies)
    2. Knowledge (Procedural knowledge, picture absurdities, vocabulary)
    3. Quantitative Reasoning
    4. Visual-Spatial Processing (patterns, position and direction)
    5. Working Memory — ability to compare verbal and nonverbal (delayed response, block span, memory for sentences, last word)

    Notice the lack of reference to Harvard or Yale?

    Wechsler Intelligence Scale for Children (WISC) (Ages 6 - 16)

    The test includes 16 Subtests:

    Verbal
    1. Similarities Multiple Choice (SIMC)
    2. Vocabulary Multiple Choice (VCMC)
    3. Picture Vocabulary Multiple Choice (PVMC)
    4. Comprehension Multiple Choice (COMC)
    5. Information Multiple Choice (INMC)

    Perceptual
    6. Block Design Multiple Choice (BDMC)
    7. Block Design Process Approach (BDPA)

    Memory
    8. Visual Digit Span (VDS)
    9. Spatial Span (SSp)
    10. Letter Span (LS)
    11. Letter-Number Sequencing Process Approach (LNPA)
    12. Arithmetic Process Approach (APRA)
    13. Written Arithmetic (WA)

    Processing Speed
    14. Coding Recall (CDR)
    15. Coding Copy (CDC)

    Executive Function
    16. Elithorn Mazes (EM)

    Nope, no Harvard or Yale there.

    Wechsler Adult Intelligence Scale®—Third Edition (WAIS®–III) (Ages 16 - 89)

    The test includes 14 subtests.

    Verbal (6 Subtests)
    1. Information - Knowledge from school and cultural experience.
    2. Digit Span - Measures short-term memory by requiring recall of increasingly longer strings of numbers.
    3. Vocabulary - Measure of vocabulary.
    4. Arithmetic - Measures mental concentration and computational skills.
    5. Comprehension - Measures practical information and social knowledge.
    6. Similarities - The ability to find and combine verbal relationships.

    Performance (5 Subtests)
    7. Picture Completion - Measures attention to detail and visual recognition of objects.
    8. Picture Arrangement - Arrange pictures to tell a story. Measures nonverbal reasoning & planning.
    9. Block Design - Test taker must reproduce abstract patterns.
    10. Digit Symbol
    11. Object Assembly - Puzzles that form a meaningful whole.

    Matrix Reasoning - Test taker must complete the missing portion of abstract patterns, measuring nonverbal perceptual reasoning.

    Letter-Number Sequencing - Test taker must correctly order letters and numbers presented orally, measuring sequential processing abilities.

    Symbol Search - Measures speed, accuracy & attention.

    Did I miss the Harvard or Yale reference here? I. Don’t. Think. So.

    We’ll just skip the following two tests because I am also fairly certain they don’t mention Harvard, Yale, or McDonalds Hamburger University:

    Wechsler Preschool and Primary Scale of Intelligence™—Third Edition (WPPSI™–III)

    Kaufman Assessment Battery for Children (Kaufman-ABC)

    That is the Real World™, Bluto.

    Good for him. He’s the exception that proves the rule. Do you have a point, other than the one on top of your head?

    Well, it disproves your “rule” that intelligence is based on if and where a person went to college.

    Ah, so what you’re saying is…is…IS THAT IT MATTERS WHERE YOU GET YOUR DEGREE?!?!?!? THAT A HARVARD OR YALE DEGREE IS WORTH MORE?!?!?!?!

    Did I say it was worth more? I did mention the fact that there is a distinct liabilty in having a degree from an Ivy League school.

    I also mentioned that unless your degree was in Business or Law, a Harvard or Yale degree is not as important as say a degree from a whole plethera of other schools.

    Sure, a Harvard Law or Business degree might get you more money in a select few companies, but the majority of companies out there are more likely to hire someone with the same degree from another school because they could afford them. Besides, in many of those cases, the person with the degree from the non-Ivy League school is probably better suited for the job than the Harvard graduate.

    Again, none of this has anything to do with intelligence, Bluto.

    45 some-odd hours of college. Mostly JUCO. Amazing that I can still spell rings around your coked-up ass, isn’t it?

    Wow, using your gauge for intelligence, you are running on fumes in the fuel tank of intelligence. :em99:

    But then again, I’m not the one accusing Bush of being a dim bulb. I’m not the one accusing Limbaugh listeners of being stupid. I’m not the one calling Michelle Malkin an “airhead”, am I?

    Well, Bush is a dim bulb. An educated one, who probably got into the school solely on his family name.

    And yes, anyone who lets Rush do their thinking for them is pretty damn stupid. Malkin is an airhead. You are a blowhard, Bluto.

    (crickets)

    If you are hearing that inside of your head, you really should have that looked at.

    So until you get off that high horse, Short Bus, you’re gonna get it thrown in your face every time you question someone’s intelligence.

    Get what thrown in my face, Bluto? The silly notion that you somehow measure intelligence by the college a person went to and the degree he or she obtained? You of the 45 credit hours of junior college ABE classes?

    As I said before - if you don’t like it, come down here and do something about it.


    “Come say that to my face”

    Would you just listen to yourself, Bluto? You are forty-something and act like you are still in the seventh grade saying, “Meet me behind the gym afer school”

    I could care less about how you feel about any of this. Nothing you say is really all that important to me. This is all good for a laugh, and that’s about it. The more you say something, the funnier it gets.

    While hiding behind that ex-cop roomie of yours. Yeah, you’re a regular fuckin’ hero.

    What, are you afraid of my roommate? :em99: He’s hardly ever here, and when he is, I seldom see him. He is on the opposite side of the house in the other wing.

    Besides, what is there to “hide” from? You? :em99:

    Grow up, Bluto.

    I have little to say and less time these days. But I’m getting almighty tired of the Democrat Party or Democrats being identified as “Democratic“.

    Especially since such a descriptor is wildly inappropriate.

    It has always had “Democratic” in its name — even when it was “The Democratic-Republican Party” that started in the mid-1790s as the “Anti-Federalist” Party. When the National Republican Party broke off in 1825, it became “The Democratic Party”.

    The members of The Democratic Party are referred to as “Democrats”.

  53. Unregistered Comment by Lord Spatula I, King & Tyrant

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    Bzzzzt! Wrong Bluto. First, I do not know Bush. Secondly, he doesn’t have a Law degree. Perhaps if you had read a little closer, you would have determined that I wasn’t talking about George Bush.

    Not that it would matter, douchebag. It’s already been established that you’re nothing but a huge crock of bullshit.

    Using your criteria for intelligence, John Kerry — who graduated from Yale, and Bill Clinton who graduated from Georgetown University, won a Rhodes Scholarship to Oxford, and also graduated from Yale are probably held in very high esteem by you, right?

    Ol’ Lavender Heart? Would that be the Yale chap who wasn’t quite as good a student as ol’ Dubya?

    And this would be the same Bill Clinton who doesn’t even know what the meaning of “is” is? Doesn’t even know the definition of “alone”?

    Wanna quit while you’re behind, dumbfuck?

    I will make it easy for you. There are two major “consensus” definitions of intelligence that have been proposed. First, a task force convened by the American Psychological Association in 1995

    That would be the same American Psychological Association that thinks pedophilia isn’t so bad, right?

    Now do you know why we all think your sources are shit?

    This was in response to an opinion piece published in the Wall Street Journal in 1994 which claimed to uphold the findings of the book “The Bell Curve” written by Psychologist Richard Hermstein and Charles Murray of the American Enterprise institute:

    […]

    Then there is the layman definition found in The Merriam-Webster Dictionary Online:

    Neither definition of which has been shown to be in your possession in abundance, given the preponderance of the evidence which is your bullshit.

    Regardless of which definition you want to use, you claim that you can determine intelligence by the school you graduated from is laughable.

    Because you say so? You’re nothing but a drug-infested, Communist-sympathizing glorified board-op, remember?

    While there are probably hundreds of so-called “IQ Tests” out there, the most widely used and recognized tests are the following:

    […]

    Notice the lack of reference to Harvard or Yale?

    I did happen to notice this:

    11. Letter-Number Sequencing Process Approach (LNPA)

    …at which, as Duke Fenton pointed out some time ago, you fall woefully short.

    Then there’s this one:

    . Comprehension - Measures practical information and social knowledge.

    100,000,000 dead from Communism, and still you support it. Strike two.

    Then there’s this one:

    Letter-Number Sequencing - Test taker must correctly order letters and numbers presented orally, measuring sequential processing abilities.

    Same thing as #1, of course, but it wouldn’t be the first time a batter swung & missed at pitches one & three. Back to the bench with you, Casey.

    We’ll just skip the following two tests because I am also fairly certain they don’t mention Harvard, Yale, or McDonalds Hamburger University:

    You might not want to skip those, fucktard.  You’re passing so few tests now that you need all the help you can get.

    Well, it disproves your “rule” that intelligence is based on if and where a person went to college.

    Again, because you say so? Credibility ain’t exactly your middle name, Dr. Dumbfuck.

    Did I say it was worth more? I did mention the fact that there is a distinct liabilty in having a degree from an Ivy League school.

    Because…let’s go back and see, shall we…?

    because a employer

    A employer, Einstein?

    might not want to pay what a typical Ivy League degree might demand.

    So he’d be willing to pay for a degree from a lesser college/university, is that right?

    Here’s a clue, Bozo: Clinton could parse. You can’t. You’re not really smart enough.

    Wow, using your gauge for intelligence, you are running on fumes in the fuel tank of intelligence.

    Again - and if you’d read a little closer, you might have caught this - I’m not the one questioning anyone else’s intelligence.

    Except yours.

    Well, Bush is a dim bulb.

    You still haven’t produced the Harvard/Yale sheepskins, Dr. Dumbfuck.

    An educated one, who probably got into the school solely on his family name.

    Prove it. Preferably with evidence not made up by Mary Mopes & Dan Blather.

    And yes, anyone who lets Rush do their thinking for them is pretty damn stupid. Malkin is an airhead. You are a blowhard, Bluto.

    And you’re a chickenshit little pussy, Pee Wee.

    Get what thrown in my face, Bluto? The silly notion that you somehow measure intelligence by the college a person went to and the degree he or she obtained? You of the 45 credit hours of junior college ABE classes?

    The fact that you don’t have any grounds for questioning anyone else’s intelligence, shithead. Not to mention the fact that you’re a craven coward who wouldn’t dare say any of this to my face.

    Would you just listen to yourself, Bluto?

    Oh, hey, look - I can post pictures too, pussy:

    I think yours fits you better, don’t you?

    You are forty-something and act like you are still in the seventh grade saying, “Meet me behind the gym afer school”

    So says the Romper Room short-bus reject who calls everyone “dim bulbs” and “airheads”.

    I could care less about how you feel about any of this. Nothing you say is really all that important to me. This is all good for a laugh, and that’s about it. The more you say something, the funnier it gets.

    Well, if you think handing you your ass on a platter and showing everyone what a fucking two-beers-short-of-a-sixpack hypocrite you are is funny, keep it up - there’s more where that came from.

    What, are you afraid of my roommate? He’s hardly ever here, and when he is, I seldom see him. He is on the opposite side of the house in the other wing.

    I fear nothing, nancy-boy. Especially not a Commie-sympathizing pothead with delusions of intelligence.

    Besides, what is there to “hide” from? You?

    Feel free to test that on your way down to Houston, dickweed. If you think you’re such a hot shit and that you can “take [me]” - get off that short bus and let’s see what you got, chumpzilla.

  54. jaybear Comment by jaybear

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    Spats, DJ….

    enough of this back and forth between you two….

    my proposal is simple, meet at a point midway between Washington and Texas and settle it with one of these:

    rockem sockem dudes

    Last ‘bot standing and all that

    nothing like painting a BIIIIG bullseye on myself…..

  55. Unregistered Comment by leoni2, LC

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    Jaybear,

    :em99: :em99: :em99: :em99: :em99:

    That is comedy gold right there man!!!!

  56. sig94 Comment by sig94

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    Jaybear, you even got the Red State/Blue State matchup! Awesome!

  57. Trooper THX1138 Comment by Trooper THX1138

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    I’m with you Jaybear. It’s turning into an amateur version of Hannity and Colmes in here.

    Hannity and Colmes

    Except not anywhere near as entertaining. :em98:

  58. DJ Allyn,  ITW Comment by DJ Allyn, ITW

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    Not that it would matter, douchebag. It’s already been established that you’re nothing but a huge crock of bullshit.

    Ah, but it does matter, Bluto. You can pretend all you want — but you were wrong, and THAT is the only thing that has been “established” here.

    Ol’ Lavender Heart? Would that be the Yale chap who wasn’t quite as good a student as ol’ Dubya?

    The hypocrisy just hangs off of you like the rolls of fat on your gut, doesn’t it? I have never said Kerry was the brightest person, did I? In fact, if anything it kinda proves my point. Just because you graduate from an Ivy League school doesn’t make you more intelligent than anyone else.

    Besides, maybe Kerry didn’t have the connections Bush did when he went to school.

    And this would be the same Bill Clinton who doesn’t even know what the meaning of “is” is? Doesn’t even know the definition of “alone”?

    This would be the same Bill Clinton who was putting forth a legal argument — part of his training — to wiggle out of a bind. Still another item that proves my point, which is exactly why I brought both of them up. You just couldn’t see the reason why I bothered mentioning them.

    Wanna quit while you’re behind, dumbfuck?

    You’re gonna have to turn around — you are facing the wrong direction, because I am the one who is “ahead” here. The goal is over in this direction. :em99:

    That would be the same American Psychological Association that thinks pedophilia isn’t so bad, right?

    That would be the same APA that three years later published another study that refuted the 1998 claim. But the APA as a body never said pedophilia was a good thing. They just published a paper in their journal written by four doctors.

    Perhaps you are unfamiliar with how a professional association Journal works — especially one that publishes material from thousands of its members or groups. Publishing something in their journal doesn’t automatically make them endorse it, it only throws the topic out for others to discuss, debate, — and in this case refute. It is a journal — a fluid magazine where ideas and findings are published so that others can review, accept or refute. They can take pieces of different findings and create new findings or research.

    At no time did the APA change its Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM IV) to conform to this ’study’ made by four doctors who interviewed 50 male college students who had been molested to see if they had “socially adjusted” or not, then published their results in the APA Journal.

    This is hardly a “consensus” of the APA.

    There are other journals that do the same thing. Medical journals, legal journals, scientific journals. They aren’t positions, they are just reports, findings, or thoughts thrown out for discussion or vetting.

    But I am sure all of this is simply lost on someone like you.

    Now do you know why we all think your sources are shit?

    You mean all those little voices in your head? I thought they were crickets.

    Too bad pages 517-534 are missing from the book, otherwise you could look up Dissociative identity disorder (which was formerly known as Multiple personality disorder, but its designation was changed in 1994.)

    (Are “we” amused yet?)

    …at which, as Duke Fenton pointed out some time ago, you fall woefully short.

    Wow, do tell. He was able to do all that from his computer? :em99:

    100,000,000 dead from Communism, and still you support it. Strike two.

    No, Bluto, I don’t “support” it, that is you putting words in my mouth. What I’ve said is that it isn’t OUR business telling another nation what system of government they should have.

    But try this one on for size, idiotstick: How many people have died in the name of their religion? Would you say it was considerably more than 100 million?

    Perspective, Bluto, perspective.

    Same thing as #1, of course, but it wouldn’t be the first time a batter swung & missed at pitches one & three. Back to the bench with you, Casey.

    You are throwing like a girl. The ball isn’t even making it to the plate.

    Again, because you say so? Credibility ain’t exactly your middle name, Dr. Dumbfuck.

    No, Captain Obvious, because you said so. You disproved your own silly notion. I just pointed it out.

    So he’d be willing to pay for a degree from a lesser college/university, is that right?

    Of course. Like I said, unless you are applying for a business or lawyer position, your Yale or Harvard degree is more of a liability than it is a shoe-in. But even if you are trying to get into a law firm, it isn’t all that either. I can tell you that a Gonzaga law degree will get you every bit as much if not more than a Harvard degree.

    Here’s a clue, Bozo: Clinton could parse. You can’t. You’re not really smart enough.

    And apparently you are too dumb to comprehend even the simplest concepts.

    Again - and if you’d read a little closer, you might have caught this - I’m not the one questioning anyone else’s intelligence.

    Except yours. [emphasis mine]

    Which means you are questioning it, and I am using your argument against you. Let’s review, shall we?

    1. You insist that intelligence is based on the college attended and the degree acquired.

    2. Bush went to Harvard and Yale, which means to YOU he is the most intelligent person around.

    3. I tell you that you don’t measure intelligence by what college you went to or the degree you’ve acquired.

    4. I hold two Bachelor degrees and one Masters from UC - Berkley and Seattle University.

    5. You have 45 credit hours at a junior college, probably working towards a certification instead of a degree.

    So, assuming your assertion that you state in number one, and using the criteria from number 2 and my “inferior” education in number 4, I can then only assume that the following two assertions are true:

    Because number 5 is obviously less than number 2, then you aren’t as intelligent as Bush. (but apparently you admit to that already, so that isn’t news)

    But wait for it:

    Because number 5 is obviously less than number 4, and you consider me as dumb as a box of rocks, then it only stands to reason that you are dumber than a box of rocks. :em95:

    Damn, you are easy.

    Remember, I questioned Bush’s intelligence, and you questioned mine. Notice how I haven’t questioned yours?

    Because you can’t judge a person’s intelligence by what their education is! But you can get an inkling by how they talk and carry themselves.

    You still haven’t produced the Harvard/Yale sheepskins, Dr. Dumbfuck.

    … and you appear to be stuck on stupid.

    And you’re a chickenshit little pussy, Pee Wee.

    I know you are, but what am I?

    C’mon, is that the best you can respond with?

    The fact that you don’t have any grounds for questioning anyone else’s intelligence, shithead. Not to mention the fact that you’re a craven coward who wouldn’t dare say any of this to my face.

    Well, I’ll tell you what, you bring the face up here, and I will say whatever I want to it. Since it is YOU who wants everyone to say something to your face, don’t you think that YOU should be the one making the effort to make YOUR face available?

    It’s like a lazy car thief who asks the victim to drive the car over to where he is at so he could steal it.

    I think yours fits you better, don’t you?

    Not as good as yours fits you.

    [And at this point, you’ve crossed the line, Allyn, you fucking little pothead.

    You don’t post pictures of me on this site without my permission, nor am I going to stand by and let you post Mykki Chickenshit’s sycophant suckweasel’s links.

    You’ve proven that you’re a craven little coward, Allyn, you pathetic pussy - and if you ever grow a set and get within five feet of me, you’re gonna learn a very costly lesson.

    For now, if Misha decides to cut my access or privileges for this, fine - so be it. But you don’t have permission to post my pictures here, you never have, and you never will.

    Go fuck yourself, you son-of-a-crack-whore-bitch. -LSI]

  59. jaybear Comment by jaybear

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    sig94 sez:

    Jaybear, you even got the Red State/Blue State matchup! Awesome!

    didja notice which one is getting clocked??? :em99:

  60. Lady Heather Comment by Lady Heather

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    Sire,

    Have you had enough of this now?

  61. Hardclimber54 Comment by Hardclimber54

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    Oh Emperor,

    I’m with Lady Heather here! It is NOT my place to judge anyone, but isn’t this getting a bit heavy on the venom?!? As previously posted, hotly debated differences of opinion are enlightening (thinking of Fanusi and Crunchie), but this is getting somewhat worrisome…

    Everyone on this blog thoroughly enjoys making a point, posting a rant, debating perspectives, offering their point of view, it’s absolutely fantastic, but this…

    Spats, DJ, you are BOTH passionate and, to say the least, obstinate people, and I respect that. Sinking into name calling and threats, well, nothing gets accomplished, and the undertone is disturbing, let it go, please…

  62. jaybear Comment by jaybear

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    count me in with Lady H and Hardclimber……..

    Spats and DJ, at the risk of having the fire turned my way I’ll say this: You both know that I respect the hell out of both of you but you’re looking like total idiots with this stupid exchange. The respect that you’ve both accumulated from the LC’s on this site is diminishing daily while you act out your schoolyard dramatics.

    let it go you guys

  63. Lady Heather Comment by Lady Heather

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    Good comment, Deej, and I still respect you even if I don’t agree with most of the time. ;)

  64. Emperor Misha I Comment by Emperor Misha I

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    Everybody calm now?

    This is getting ridiculous, you know. I think we can all safely conclude now that y’all are never going to agree on anything, which is just fine. But we all get the point, so no need to elaborate.

    If either of you want to go on fighting, fine too. Just do it someplace else. Right now, I think it would be best for all involved if you just ignored each other and no, I’m not going to pick sides in this one. This has been going on for so long that there’d be absolutely no point in bringing up “who started what” and, besides, that would just lead to another interminable round of arguing.

    It’s a crying shame that we don’t all live in the same burgh, because I have a feeling that if the three of us were to sit down together over an obscenely generous amount of beer (I’d supply it, since I can drink the both of you under the table without even trying ;-) ), we’d all decide that it was damn silly to begin with. Right after we got done solving all of the trouble in the world in our inebriated state AND arguing whether Angelina Jolie’s boobs are authentic or not. If nothing else, the conversation would come to a complete stop when I, as I am wont, reached the point where I’d dress up as a pixie and start singing in extremely bad Russian ;-)

    Trust me: As anybody who has witnessed that will testify to, ANYTHING is appropriate to stop THAT! Especially when I start putting lingerie on my head. Grown men have been known to claw their own eyes out to avoid that spectacle.

  65. Emperor Misha I Comment by Emperor Misha I

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    Damn this server is sllloooooowwwwwwww……

    I know. It’s something intermittent right now, but I’ve been doing a general debug with FireBug to see whatever else might be holding up things, and it says that it (other than what I turned off) is mainly the Bark, which is to be expected since whomever wrote it probably didn’t get around to upgrade his code for the new version yet. It IS free icecream, after all. And I can’t very well turn off the Bark or there’d be crowds with pitchforks outside the castle gate in seconds :lol: