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Randi Rhodes Mugged, Tinfoil Liberals Unhinged (UPDATE: Bullshit, and UPDATED AGAIN)
Posted by: Emperor Misha I in Idiotarians10:00 AM
LC Rurik informs us that some scumbag goblin assaulted Randi Rhodes while she was out jogging with her dog. Predictably, the nutroots are convinced that she was the victim of Roaming Right Wing Death Beast Murder Squads™
According to Air America Radio late night host Jon Elliott, Rhodes was beaten up pretty badly, losing several teeth and will probably be off the air for at least the rest of the week. At of late Monday night we have not able to locate any press accounts of the attack and nothing has been posted on the AAR website.
Jon Elliott, expert FBI Profiler, is convinced that Black Helicopters were involved:
Elliott was extremely agitated when he reported on the incident. He opened his show by saying “it is with sadness that tonight I inform you that my Air America colleague Randi Rhodes was assaulted last night while walking her dog near her New York City home.”
Pointing out that Rhodes was wearing a jogging suit and displayed no purse or jewelry, Elliott speculated that “this does not appear to me to be a standard grab the money and run mugging.”
Heavens no! A female jogger mugged? In NEW YORK??? That’s just UNHEARD OF!
“Is this an attempt by the right wing hate machine to silence one of our own,” he asked. “Are we threatening them. Are they afraid that we’re winning. Are they trying to silence intimidate us.”
Yes. Of course “we” (T.I.N.W.) are, Elliott. “We’re” (T.I.N.W.) mortally afraid of the stranglehold you guys have on the talk radio listening demographic. Why, only yesterday Rush Limbaugh informed us members of the Inner NeoconHalliburtonZionistStarChamber Circle™ that he’s only about $45 million away from being reduced to selling poorly made miniature screwdrivers outside 7-11s in order to afford his Ramen Noodles!
And the irony of a lefty nutbag howling about persecution when those same censoring morons have been campaigning tirelessly for years to get conservatives off the air is so bloody thick you could bottle it and sell it.
Some of blog posters also expressed concerns that the attack on Rhodes was hate crime. Other posters warned that we need more facts before any judgements are made.
…only to find themselves tombstoned by the rest of the nutroot community for excessive show of rationality and interference with a Donning of the Thorny Crown Ceremony™, we’re sure.
While the howling Moonbats are nursing their persecution complex, inflating their own importance above and beyond the bounds of sanity, allow us to wish Randi all the best as well as a full and speedy recovery. We may not be able to stand her and her insane rants, but by G-d she has a right to make them, and if it does turn out that the perp or perps were motivated by a desire to beat up a woman over words they didn’t agree with, then it is our most profound hope that they get locked up in the same cell as a sex-starved, muscular linebacker.
Of course, that’s exactly the same thing we wish for if it turns out, much more likely, that she was the victim of one or more run-of-the-mill mugging goblin swine.
A crime is a crime is a crime.
UPDATE: LC Mike M informs us that the whole thing is nothing but a bunch of twits hyperventilating and jumping to conclusions, which certainly would explain why no official statement has been forthcoming from AAR:
Air America radio host Randi Rhodes is temporarily off the air, but claims she was brutally attacked near her Manhattan apartment are bogus, her lawyer and a police source said today.
Fellow host Jon Elliott claimed on the liberal radio network that Rhodes had been mugged while walking her dog, Simon, on Sunday night. Elliot, who said Rhodes lost several teeth in the attack, waxed about a possible conspiracy.
“Is this an attempt by the right-wing, hate machine to silence one of our own?” he asked on the air, according to Talking Radio, a blog. “Are we threatening them? Are they afraid that we’re winning? Are they trying to silence intimidate us?”
A police source said Rhodes never filed a report and never claimed to be the victim of a mugging. Cops from Manhattan’s 17th Precinct called her attorney, who told them Rhodes was not a victim of a crime, the source said.
Rhodes’ lawyer told the Daily News she was injured in a fall while walking her dog. He said she’s not sure what happened, and only knows that she fell down and is in a lot of pain. The lawyer said Rhodes expects to be back on the air Thursday. He stressed there is no indication she was targeted or that she was the victim of a “hate crime.”
We still hope she recovers, but we can’t help it if we’re snickering a bit. Come on, pratfalls are funny, dammit! Still, Randi: Get well. It’s not like His Imperial Majesty has never fallen on his arse and made a spectacle of himself.
We guess that the Nutroots are going to have to keep shopping for an Outrage of the Week™, although we’re not sure that they won’t take the opportunity to claim that it was an employee of Halliburton who placed a banana peel in front of her.
UPDATE the Second: OK, so it wasn’t a banana peel according to a commenter at Gawker.com:
Randi Rhodes was no more assaulted by a right-wing fanatic on Monday than Dick Cheney was. She, in fact, fell down and injured her teeth outside of a Midtown Irish bar at around 6 o’clock Sunday evening after downing about fourteen Ketel One Bloody Marys. She was abusive to the barstaff and generally gross, crass, loud, and pretentious. I genuinely hope she has a speedy recovery. I never would’ve disclosed this (I believe that anyone should feel free to hang out at Irish pubs at any time and not be concerned about someone publishing their behavior) if Air America hadn’t grossly interpreted a drunken indiscretion and allowed it to be morphed into some bullish rhetoric on air. Whatever journalistic integrity the station may have ever had is now completely compromised. The manipulation of the public diminishes any cause, whether just or fabricated.
This incident is now officially cleared for raucous laughter. Oh, and Randi? Ketel One, for crying out loud? Don’t they have REAL Vodka in your neighborhood? At least it wasn’t Everclear. Here, have an Aspirin, dear. 
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Just another consequence of victim-disarmament.
October 16th, 2007 at 10:06 AMUsing
Agreed. But they don’t understand. Like any pampered spoiled brats, or other forms of lazy shit who want what YOU worked for, if they don’t get their way they lie about why it’s not theirs and should be. Shit, they probably beat her up to blame it on us so they can get sympathy.
WTF!
October 16th, 2007 at 10:10 AMUsing
I wonder if, as the..ah, “not-very-lightly-complected” attacker smashed her face in, Randi protested, “but wait–I’m on you’re side!” This is but a preview of what all libs will be experiencing if they get their way and Islam does conquer this country–their last words as they are about to hiked up on cranes attached to hemp neckties–”But wait, I’m on your side!”
October 16th, 2007 at 10:11 AMUsing
BAH!
I hate it when we get blamed for stuff we didn’t even have the joy of doing!!!
October 16th, 2007 at 10:21 AMUsing
Poopstain
Now, just TRY to make this clear to these folks, and good luck to you! They’re so convinced that the world would be a better place once they’re done “equalizing” everyone, as long as THEY are in charge, of course, that no amount of common sense and/or reasoning will ever penetrate their psychological “I know best” defense shields…
That being said, it is my sincere hope that she recovers and the perpetrator apprehended soonest.
October 16th, 2007 at 10:25 AMUsing
Now taking applications for:
The Vast Right Wing Hit Squad
A Division of the VRWC
However, regardless of her views, I too hope that she is OK, and that the vermin who did this is caught and punished appropriately.
October 16th, 2007 at 10:30 AMUsing
Good thing she didn’t have a gun, that mugger/attempted rapist till her saw her face, might have gotten hurt! And we all have the right to feel safe on the job.
October 16th, 2007 at 10:35 AMUsing
I sure hope the dog is okay.
October 16th, 2007 at 10:52 AMUsing
[…] –The Anti-Idiotarian Rottweiler: LC Rurik informs us that some scumbag goblin assaulted Randi Rhodes while she was out jogging with her dog. Predictably, the nutroots are convinced that she was the victim of Roaming Right Wing Death Beast Murder Squads™….. […]
October 16th, 2007 at 10:59 AMUsing
If we had “Hillary-Care” she would be back on the radio in no time. Just imagine, tho, if she was in Britain at the time.
Feeling magnanimous at the moment, I shall pray for her.
Did I leave the koran in the bathroom again?…
*walks off muttering something about the religion of peas.*
October 16th, 2007 at 11:33 AMUsing
All I want for Christmas is my Two Front Teeth
(Sending that out to Crunchie!)
October 16th, 2007 at 11:44 AMUsing
“A conservative is a liberal that’s been mugged.”
Welcome to the Dark Side Ms. Rhodes. Your Ann Coulter doll and your “I Support the Troops” sticker are on the table along with your complimentary subscription to Human Events. Mary K Ham will be your mentor during training.
Again, Welcome to the VRWC
October 16th, 2007 at 11:47 AMUsing
Deej, I think it’s safe to say that comment was very much tongue-in-cheek. At least I hope so.
Anyway, the bottom line is: I don’t care who or why it was. Beating up a lady without provocation is still aggravated assault, and I hope and pray that the perp(s) is brought in for some serious “wall to wall counseling.”
I also understand that Jon Elliott was upset and therefore maybe given to a tad of hysterical overreaction (I’d be pretty pissed off myself), but that never stopped me from mocking anybody in the past and it ain’t going to stop me in the future. I just hope that, when he calms down, he reaches the same conclusion that I have: It doesn’t matter what the motivation was, it’s still wrong, wrong, wrong and the bastard, even if it was because he didn’t like her haircut, needs a damn thorough thrashing.
I don’t like Randi, I can’t stand the bitch, and G-d knows that she’s said things that made me want to punch her in the kisser, but there’s a long, long way from being pissed off and saying “I want to” and to actually doing it, or at least there ought to be. Otherwise, I’d be guilty of several hundred counts of murder because of blind bats cutting in front of me in traffic and damn near causing me to crash.
But none of that matters. What matters is that the goblin gets what’s coming to him, and hopefully soon.
And what a great pity that was, because I’d have loved nothing more than to read in the papers that she’d shoved a .357 Mag in the mouth of the bastard and pulled the trigger, decorating the sidewalk in that ever so charming color known as “hint of goblin brain.”
You’d have loved it too, because it would have led to that most odd of sights: A tribute to Randi Rhodes on the Anti-Idiotarian Rottweiler
October 16th, 2007 at 12:09 PMUsing
Misha, yes it was tongue in cheek.
DJ, your not even worth the time.
October 16th, 2007 at 12:23 PMUsing
From the header of this site:
“An Affiliate of the VRWC”
- Yes tongue in cheek.
October 16th, 2007 at 12:59 PMUsing
Update: The whole thing is bullshit.
October 16th, 2007 at 1:00 PMUsing
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October 16th, 2007 at 1:02 PMUsing
“Rhodes’ lawyer told the Daily News she was injured in a fall while walking her dog. He said she’s not sure what happened, and only knows that she fell down….”
Proving once again, leftards cannot walk the dog and chew gum at the same time…………
October 16th, 2007 at 1:03 PMUsing
DJ: would you mind sharing that email from Mark Green? We seem to have a smoking gun here, seeing that, according to Rhodes’ attorney, she fell down.
Somebody’s a hatemonger here, and it’s not somebody on the Right.
October 16th, 2007 at 1:05 PMUsing
Many families- especially those of the station’s creditors- have been devastated tonight. This is just not right. She did not deserve to be mugged. If someone did this to get back at Bush, then they did so by mugging some dingbat who DID NOT VOTE for him! New York, Rhodes’ neighborhood, and probably even her destination of the 7-11 - these were places that voted AGAINST Bush!
October 16th, 2007 at 1:18 PMUsing
Even given that the story of Randi Rhodes’ “mugging” turned out to be false, Rhodes might still deserve a certain amount of sympathy and comisseration, because so many folks on her side of the political aisle jumped to a false conclusion and started spreading wild and bogus stories about her accident.
In Rhodes’ place, I’d be embarassed as hell.
(This assumes, of course, that the story that Rhodes was mugged didn’t actually originate with Rhodes herself. If she is the one who first lied about this, then Rhodes deserves a good spanking to go with her missing teeth.)
Meanwhile, over at Michelle Malkin’s post on the bogus Rhodes story, commenter “Saintkansas” asks: “If an Air America host falls down and no one is listening, has she been silenced?”
October 16th, 2007 at 1:22 PMUsing
Sorry DJ, I was not intending to praise the goblin that assaulted Randi, I was intending to play off the comedic value of being part of the “VRWC”.
I wish no ill will to Randi and I hope she recovers soon.
And I honestly doubt that if Malkin or Coulter were assaulted that it would take 24 hours for the details of the assault to come to light. Coulter and Malkin both I could see playing off the comedic value of having tripped over their two “right” feet…
I’m not sure why it took so long for the details on Randi to come to light.
October 16th, 2007 at 1:58 PMUsing
One interesting thing you ignore is the fact that there is a history of libtards assaulting Malkin and Coulter. That alone would lend some credibility to any speculation in that case.
October 16th, 2007 at 2:16 PMUsing
Damn shame how low the level of political discourse has become in this country. Not much civility, that I can see.
I refuse to talk politics with anyone these days, including members of my own family. Seems some people take so much affront to even your political party affiliation these days that you are branded a Satan even though you hardly know the person and that person’s not even a politician or activist of any sort.
And that street goes BOTH ways.
October 16th, 2007 at 2:21 PMUsing
this whole thing sounds like a cry for attention…
“see??!?! WE get attacked on the left toooooo… we weeewy dooo!”
she’s fucking afraid to involve the police because she knows she’s making the whole thing up, about someone else being involved.
you got THAT right, Chuck. Where the hell are the “brave” pie throwers when I’mAdinnerJacket comes to town.? Bunch of pussies.
October 16th, 2007 at 2:29 PMUsing
Silly wiberal, Iwish dont dwink VODKA!
October 16th, 2007 at 2:36 PMUsing
Ketel One? What, she can’t afford Stoli? I think Comrade Rhodes needs a visit from her friendly neighborhood commissar..
October 16th, 2007 at 2:45 PMUsing
Since she’s a certified Progressive, I was kinda leaning toward a few too many psilocybin mushrooms in her omelet or maybe an overdose of Mad Dog in her enema, but this makes sense.
October 16th, 2007 at 2:52 PMUsing
Is it too soon to cue the “Yackety Sax” music, punctuated by a few silly “thudd!” and “boing!” noises?
(If this happened to me, I’d expect that.)
October 16th, 2007 at 2:55 PMUsing
I was asking that when you were hailing how communism was good for some countries.
About that email Deej, what’s up with that?
October 16th, 2007 at 3:07 PMUsing
I’d just read about this over at Rachel’s blog. God, what a bunch of leftie idiots. What’s even worst for them is that she’d never claimed she was mugged. Guess one of the posters at Rachels’ blog is right. They never let the truth ruin a good rant.
Guess how long it’ll take before it vanishes? Anyone want to take bets? Anyone? 
Oh my god, she fell down after drinking? Excuse me!
I also wish her a speedy recovery, but the next time she drinks, she better have a designated walker with her so she won’t lose any more teeth! 
October 16th, 2007 at 3:20 PMUsing
Woulda been better if she’d used Everclear in those bloody marys. All vodka and gin drinks should be about 70% Everclear, 30% the traditional likker. That way the drink tastes like a weak version of the original but actually packs a serious wallup–like what knocked lil Randi’s teefes out. I’d respectfully suggest that DeeJ start mixin’ all his drinks by this recipe–some serious chillin’ is prescribed. That or maybe find the reset button. Nuff’s eeenuff.
October 16th, 2007 at 3:24 PMUsing
she’s gonna look like one of the toothless hillbillies she so looks down on!! Ha!
October 16th, 2007 at 3:35 PMUsing
DJ: I understand your embarassment and desire to
polish this turdfinesse this issue, but I would still like to see this Mark Green email in toto. For its historical value, you understand.Where did the gruesome details of the tooth kicking come from? The same place the accusations of “Bush lied and people died” did?
This is a flagrant symptom of the rampant mental illness infecting the Left.
October 16th, 2007 at 3:38 PMUsing
Holy shit! 14? She’s kind of petite, isn’t she?
Now fair’s fair..y’all give this lawyer credit for revealing the truth about this “little matter”.
October 16th, 2007 at 3:41 PMUsing
Yeah, Bluto, Clinton lied about mass graves in Kosovo, but i never heard Lied/Died come out of their foul traps. How many innocent Serbs died?
Perhaps instead of “tooth” the writer meant to say the “Truth”
October 16th, 2007 at 3:42 PMUsing
AyUaxe sez:
pouring Everclear down someone who is Neverclear???
October 16th, 2007 at 3:43 PMUsing
DJ: So you wouldn’t mind sharing the entire text of the email with us?
You know, as a brownshirt in the rightwing hate machine it really makes my sticker peck up to hear about petite women being knocked down and kicked in the mouth - that’s what the Sinistrosphere has been telling me today, anyway.
October 16th, 2007 at 4:05 PMUsing
October 16th, 2007 at 4:07 PM
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You can bet if the major export of Iraq (and Iran) was oil, we wouldn’t even be over there today, either.
But it’s not oil. It’s explosives logistics and ideology, respectively.
Or perhaps I should say it was explosive logistics.
EDIT: Although to be fair, if their second most important export was radishes rather than oil, they wouldn’t have had the money to start up their other endeavors.
October 16th, 2007 at 4:09 PMUsing
I was not refering to threats but actual assaults. We need a reading comprehension smiley for you DJ.
October 16th, 2007 at 4:31 PMUsing
Mark Green is a socialist, gadfly limosine liberal. He ran out of offices to run for, and lose, so now he’s at AAR to attempt to feel relevant. I’ve lost count of how many offices he tried to win (city council, public advocate, even mayor). Anything to prevent falling off the face of Mother Gaia.
Back in 2001 our choice for mayor was uber-RINO Bloomberg, and uber-socialist Mark Green.
October 16th, 2007 at 4:42 PMUsing
Well then, I’m forced to use Lefty logic and conclude that the rest of the email contains sooper sekrit plans for attacking conservatives in reprisal for the Rhodes hit. Maybe a mass attack on Minutemen speaking at Columbia or a pie in the face for Ann Coulter?
Oh wait, you’ve already done that.
October 16th, 2007 at 4:47 PMUsing
Not everyone can find a bottle of Starka…
October 16th, 2007 at 5:20 PMUsing
silencing this hag would be like silencing your local public access cable channel
October 16th, 2007 at 5:48 PMUsing
KPFA in Berkeley has been broadcasting libtardia for many many years more than Scare America. Check it out! They’re having $500 fund raiser RIGHT NOW!!!
COOL, HOLY CRAP, they’re gonna plan the musical soundtrack from the Power to the Peaceful “protest” in san francisco a month ago that ZOMBIETIME photojournaled so well.
Indigo Girls, my favourite!
October 16th, 2007 at 6:07 PMUsing
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October 16th, 2007 at 6:18 PMUsing
Yeah, we do know. You start posting Photoshopped pictures of me here without permission and lying through your teeth about me. (Or did you think I’d gloss over that part about how I supposedly post other people’s personal info/pictures online - eh, you sniveling douchebag?)
Just like the pathetic little pothead pussy you are, Allyn, you son-of-a-bitch.
He’s apparently a helluva (note the correct spelling of the slang term for “hell of a”, asswipe) lot smarter than a board-op with a degree in Pot Growing from Bezerkely and one in Coffee Brewing 101 from Seattle Community College.
Now, how about you STFU - and maybe I will, too. Just as the Emperor had requested.
October 16th, 2007 at 6:38 PMUsing
But DJ, don’t you want to get to the TRUTH of the matter? Who originally relayed the “mugging” story to Mr. Green?… Or did it originate from him?
October 16th, 2007 at 6:42 PMUsing
I guess the “48 Hour Rule” needs to be invoked by someone, so it might as well be me.
If it turns out to really be a drunken pratfall, AAR is going to be MERCILESSLY ridiculed… Well, MORE mercilessly ridiculed.
October 16th, 2007 at 7:12 PMUsing
Yeah, I’d really, really love to see the entire e-mail, since the Left is always bitching and whining about “We DEMAND and HAVE A RIGHT to any and all information, even if it endangers our troops and national security!”
It would appear that DJ does, indeed, have something to hide by his choosing to not post the entire e-mail. Remember folks, “It’s not the actual evidence that he’s hiding that matters. It’s the seriousness of the charges that we’re making of what he’s hiding, that matter.”
Those Mark Green Talking Points™ must have some REALLY juicy slander & libel in ‘em, if Dave’s afraid to post them in their entirety.
October 16th, 2007 at 7:17 PMUsing
Agreed,
We know, per DJ, part of the memo from Mark Green, so if there is no other link in the “mugging” story chain, the buck stops with him.
Did he create the story, or was he yet another dupe?
October 16th, 2007 at 7:37 PMUsing
Pathetic fucking losers. I shook my head and chuckled. And by the way, your alleged mugging victim should have been trained and armed…….now don’t go holding your breath waiting unless you look good in blue.
October 16th, 2007 at 7:49 PMUsing
I love the fact that those clueless tards blamed the evil right wing death beast!
October 16th, 2007 at 8:42 PMUsing
Actually, Bloomy is a Nanny Statist Supreme. Fiscal conservative? What the hell kind of nonsense is that? He’s anti 2nd Amendment, anti transfat, anti personal responsibility. He’s the personification of what is wrong with the Rethuglican party. The epitome of the term RINO. In a word…Wanker!
October 16th, 2007 at 9:00 PMUsing
Well…that explains why she didn’t have a gun.
But behaving like a drunken shrew and getting a face full of sidewalk suits me just fine.
October 16th, 2007 at 9:16 PMUsing
Why is it that everyone is freaking out about trans fats specifically?
October 16th, 2007 at 9:23 PMUsing
Need we say more?
October 16th, 2007 at 10:19 PMUsing
Randi Rhodes…
…falling down drunk.
I wonder how many the dog had?
October 16th, 2007 at 10:35 PMUsing
Thanks!
October 16th, 2007 at 10:46 PMUsing
I guess we’re all guilty in a way for disagreeing with her. In the politically correct universe, that’s a crime worse than murder.
Sadly, I thought she was one fresh face among a “usual suspects” lineup when she started on AAR, but I guess when reality flushes a progressive network down the ratings crapper, all the kids in the pool start circling the drain. This is especially true if they get assaulted by rightwing deathbeasts, their dog, alcohol, or whatever the latest story is…
October 16th, 2007 at 11:19 PMUsing
I can’t quit? I’m not the one who had to make the gratuitous comment about Mark Green and Harvard, am I?
And even now…
And you’ve got the gall to tell me “enough already”?
Quit playing the pooooooooor widdle helpless victim, Allyn. You don’t do it very well.
Put a gott-damn cork in it with the gratuitous references, and I’ll be happy to STFU.
October 17th, 2007 at 12:10 AMUsing
Bloomberg was and is a life-long Democrat who switched his party affiliation so he would only have to buy one election instead of a primary and a general election.
Damn Dj beat me to it. And I agree with him. Everyone watch for news of 747s colliding with pork tommorrow.
And I reserve the right to be too damned lazy to run the spell check most of the time.
October 17th, 2007 at 1:03 AMUsing
So let me get this straight…Every time I got drunk and fell down in/outside/around/somewhere the e-club and got hauled away by the MP’s I can blame the EvilBusHitlerHalliburtionNeoCons?
October 17th, 2007 at 8:07 AMUsing
You betcha. You probably shouldn’t try to make that explanation fly with the Missus, though. They’re way too smart to fall for it.
It’s amazing, though. Used to be when I was young that you had to get all manner of not-quite-legal home “remedies” to achieve that level of paranoid delusions, but apparently nowadays all it takes is a bottle of Ketel One.
Which reminds me: I’ve got some shopping to do.
October 17th, 2007 at 8:17 AMUsing
Deej and BC
Can we say GROSS???? YUCK. I expect that from BC, Dave, but at least YOU gave us a link…but how about some warning next time?
October 17th, 2007 at 8:53 AMUsing
I came back to this thread to see if folks had calmed down and things are looking a little better; however, DeeJ and Spats are still not consuming sufficient amounts of their preferred likkers. I humbly suggest they both come down to NOLA, meet on the patio of Pat O’s and start a drinkin’ and swearin’ contest over triple Long Island Iced Teas (I’m a straight scotch man, but that drink is just damn good–do not fall for the Hurricane hype–streets in da Quawters smell like puke enough without any more help–get a triple in the big go cup and you won’t have to fight the crowd at the bar again for a good while). By the time they’re half through with the drinks they’ll either be guests of NoPD or fast friends again. They can then meander from bar to restaurant to bar for the rest of their natural lives. There’s free wi-fi just about everywhere, so we’ll still get to hear about it. If Randi Rhodes wants to come down and join in, she is welcome, but must build up her tolerance a little. It also helps to recognize that, yes, conservatives (not republicans) do control gravity. So long as folks don’t F with our freedom, we don’t F with their faces.
October 17th, 2007 at 9:55 AMUsing
Dave,
You calling yourself “Fatso”?
October 17th, 2007 at 10:07 AMUsing
But they were in this case, weren’t they, you pathetic little druggie fuck?
“G’wan, admit it”, as you say - “enough already” only applies to me, not the elitist douchebag with the degree in Coffee Brewing 101. “Free speech for me, but not for thee”, eh, asswipe?
Then I’ll continue to point out what a cowardly little drug-infested, Communist-sympathizing pussy you are, fuckhead.
Come say that to my face, chickenshit.
October 17th, 2007 at 10:29 AMUsing
Here we go again!
Gather around folks, round two is about to start! Get your program, grab a seat, canteen is open…
October 17th, 2007 at 11:19 AMUsing
What the hell is going on?
Spats, you didn’t say that, did you?
October 17th, 2007 at 12:23 PMUsing
No, Staci, I didn’t. Our resident tech wizard and coward is deliberately messing with my comments, thinking he can fuck with me with impunity.
I’ve already responded, no worries.
October 17th, 2007 at 12:36 PMUsing
Oh lovely.
Where are Dave’s comments, Spats?
October 17th, 2007 at 12:43 PMUsing
Lord Spatula I, King & Tyrant @ 78
End it and end it now I’ll even let you have the last word. So make it good. You can’t “win” at this, you can only dig a deeper hole.
October 17th, 2007 at 12:43 PMUsing
Dave, it’s one thing to fuck with Spat’s comments but now you fucking with ours. You just did with mine. I haven’t twisted your name around even thought I despise some of the crap that you say. I don’t appreciate you doing it to someone who I personally know and call friend.
I thought that Misha said this wouldn’t be an issue.
October 17th, 2007 at 12:46 PMUsing
Don’t go threatening me, pussy. You jack with me, I jack right back.
I’ve already said that once you STFU, I would, as well. You’re the bastard that keeps pushing & prodding, so you’re gonna get it thrown back at your skanky ass in spades every time you do.
Go fuck yourself if that doesn’t meet with your personal approval. I don’t rightly give a rat’s ass what a chickenshit pothead thinks.
October 17th, 2007 at 12:51 PMUsing
I guess he’s not around.
And whoever is messing with the comments, GROW THE FUCK UP. You’re an embarrassment to this blog.
October 17th, 2007 at 12:58 PMUsing
FOOD FIGHT!!!
October 17th, 2007 at 1:31 PMUsing
It was an experiment, Staci. To see if a script could virtually replace only certain phrases of what he said — as he said it. It works, but it has troubles discriminating who said it — which is why your comments appeared the same way. So obviously it didn’t have the desired effects that I was after. So I removed the script and the comments automatically reverted back to the way they always were. (it was a virtual change)
I am going to let him have his last word. After this I won’t ever respond to him again.
October 17th, 2007 at 1:35 PMUsing
Folks
I am with Lady Heather and LC Staci here (it is NOT the first time we’re dumping on this either!). Mess with each others’ comments all you want but really, is there a NEED to screw with those of the LCs!?!?
Lady Heather, LC Staci, you are right, it is a major ONGOING embarrassment. One is as obstinate as the other… Reminds me of a couple of three year old kids slapping each other. What is gained here? What is the pay off? Who profits? Surely, two American citizens can offer different opinions and debate them to their heart’s content without resorting to nonsense like this. DJ, Spats, if not peace, at least a cease-fire please. And I did ask politely…
October 17th, 2007 at 1:36 PMUsing
I would think you would test that experiment during a low traffic time or somewhere else. When an experiment messes with how I address someone with yours or anyone else’s childish names, I don’t appreicate it one bit.
I guess that is the closest you will come to apologizing and accepting resposiblity to personally changing MY posts so consider this the closest I will come to accecting it.
In the future I will be sure to be careful how I address you because I choose not to worry that you what I say. If I am ever quoted with something controversial that I don’t recognize, I will defer back to this comment.
October 17th, 2007 at 1:46 PMUsing
I won’t.
Cut it out. Right. Fucking. NOW!
October 17th, 2007 at 2:09 PMUsing
Actually, it was a “low traffic time”. Nobody appeared to be online at that moment, and that is why I chose it. You must have come on just as I was removing the script.
And yes, I apologize for the inconvenience it caused all of you. It was never my intention to effect other people’s comments, and it wasn’t my intent at all since the other day to still be involved with any of this.
Since he has demonstrated that he will delete comments HE determines he doesn’t like, I will probably go ahead and delete ALL of my comments, and just go back to staying in the background keeping the site updated and running. You won’t even know I am here.
October 17th, 2007 at 2:19 PMUsing
It was not a mere inconvienence. More of a misrepresentation. Why can’t some people just say they are fricken sorry without excuses and disclaimers.
I don’t care what goes on with you two and what you and Spats do to each other, I just don’t like being thrust in the middle. It’s confusing and lowers the quality of the site even with all the ‘gadgets’ when you read someone’s post and it seems so off the wall you question what they say or if that person is on some major drugs. You do it with trolls, fine. But neither are you are trolls. And all it does is creates a level of mistrust here.
It’s like a child who slugs his sibling and then blames the sibling for his behavior.
Spats would not call himself any more of a coward than you would admit to being conservative. If you don’t like what he’s doing, go to Misha and leave us the hell out of it.
October 17th, 2007 at 3:12 PMUsing
The crowd went home long ago, no contenders to see here….but that means there’s no line at the canteen
dj..spats, it’s YOUR reputations that are being trashed with this stupid exchange of yours…..and I’m very sorry to see it happen. Respect is a hard thing to re-establish.
October 17th, 2007 at 3:19 PMUsing
Um, at the risk of prolonging this, but in all fairness, I don’t think Dave said that, Staci.
If you have read Spats’ comments over the years, this is a phrase he has used often.
I trust Dave is gentleman enough to tell me if I am wrong and he did put that comment up there. I’m not going to stand by and let someone be accused of something he didn’t do, be it a liberal, conservative, moderate, or Barney the Purple Dinosaur.
October 17th, 2007 at 3:26 PMUsing
Heather, that’s what I originally wrote, but David used a script to alter it, plus other things I said, as well as references to me like “Spats”. That’s what she was reacting to.
October 17th, 2007 at 3:41 PMUsing
I didn’t see that, so my apologies to you and Spats.
October 17th, 2007 at 3:48 PMUsing
You couldn’t have seen it. The “change game” was going on. No need for YOU to apolgize.
[Fixed the timestamp. Looked a little weird having Staci’s reply to Heather occuring before Heather’s comment. -The Management™]
October 17th, 2007 at 3:49 PMUsing
It ate a whole post in the process, including the post that explained I was orignally questioning Spat’s calling himself a coward. I know what Spat’s posts typically say, and calling himself a coward is not one of them.
Thanks to the “gentleman”, I just had to spend my time explaining my comments and why I posted them. What a man. It is men like this that made me not use the “L” in my title. And to think, I really didn’t use the “B” in my attitude either.
October 17th, 2007 at 4:12 PMUsing
It looks like Bluto may have figured out what really happened with Randi.
Alternative Theory for R. Rhodes Tragedy
October 17th, 2007 at 4:36 PMUsing
Yes it does, ANY time a person alters or deletes entire comments. The chicken did indeed come before the egg in all of this.
Maybe I should have thrown the whole site into maintenance mode — even though there was nobody on site when I started. It was an honest mistake on my part — I didn’t see anyone online when I started (and I see everyone
What more did you want? For me to pay damages? I apologized, and I am telling you that it isn’t going to happen again. I notice that it is a FAR cry from what the other person has done here.
It did? Strange, because I don’t see any evidence of an errant post or comment in the logs.
Every time this thing blips or bloops, or otherwise melts down, I get a copy of it in my email. There is an error log. The only time I don’t get something is when there is server issue — and there have been a few lately. But there is nothing that indicates there was a post that was “lost”. I’m not saying it didn’t happen — because there have been some errors on the server lately, I am just saying that while the server was up and running, there wasn’t a “lost” post.
Besides, there was nothing in the script that would have physically eaten or altered anything. All the script does is look for a specific word or phrase and replaces that word or phrase. It was supposed to filter according to a specific IP address, but I fat-fingered the code by accident and it looked at EVERY comment.
For that, I apologize.
I didn’t. Just as I never actually went in and changed anyone’s comments. I just put a script in place that was supposed to pick Spat’s IP address and his usual phases and virtually alter them. It wasn’t supposed to alter everyone else who referred to them.
I don’t go in and alter and delete comments that others have made just because I don’t like what they’ve said. I don’t run out of argument and try to shut someone down by removing what they’ve said. I also don’t dare someone to do something, then cry when that person goes and does it.
I think that most of you know that I am more than content just to argue a point in an honest debate, without the need to call anyone out of their name or attempt to dehumanize as a way to break someone down.
I only respond in kind after a long time of constant attack and belittlement, and I am never the one to strike first.
I try to be nice to everyone — even those who respond the opposite way to me. But there is a certain level I’ll go before I decide that enough is enough.
I am through commenting for now. I will stay here in the background keeping things running, and you can go on without worrying about me saying something you don’t want to hear. Because it would probably be taken down or altered anyways, as I suspect THIS comment to be.
October 17th, 2007 at 6:07 PMUsing
Okay, first things first.
Misha, I apologize to you - and only to you - for my actions inside this thread heretofore. My only defense is that I was attempting to defend myself using the only tactic I knew would get David’s attention. However, it went directly contrary to what you specifically told me not to do, and I have no excuse. For that, I do apologize.
Having said that…
After yesterday (during which time I did have a conversation with the Emperor and agreed to go to “my end of the bar” as it were), it was fully my intention to shut up for a while - I have to move at month’s end, and I’m trying to get packed and would have had scant little time to participate anyway.
But then Dave put up that comment about what happens when someone gets the best of him in an argument:
And then he posted the Harvard snark about Mark Green, which was an obvious slam against me, and I’m supposed to ignore all this?
I don’t think so.
So I responded to David Allyn and invited him, as the Emperor had requested here, to cease and desist.
Obviously he didn’t. And just as he posted a Photoshopped picture of me the other night without my permission, this afternoon he installed a script on this blog that altered my comments without my permission, altered y’all’s quoting of me without either my permission or your permission, and even altered some of your comments - again, without your permission. And I strongly suspect he did all of this without Misha’s permission.
After taking this all in, I made a quick decision to get this douchebag’s attention. I went and pulled up his (at the time) most recent 20 comments, and nuked them. And now, he’s sniveling like a little four-year-old about it, after having taken his own liberties with other people’s property.
How very fucking typical of a leftard.
LCs, Misha would have every right to not only yank my advanced access as a member of Management™, but to pull my account completely, and I would not blame him for doing so if he so chose. I knew full well the potential consequences of my actions, but made the decision that I could not allow such an attack upon me to go without response.
However, it is also my opinion that David Allyn should no longer be allowed to maintain and administrate this blog, for this quote:
Now if he’s willing to go to this extent in an attempt to fuck with me, what’s to stop him from doing so again, while he’s “back to staying in the background keeping the site updated and running” and while we “won’t even know [he is t]here”? Moreover, what if he decides he wants to fuck with someone else? BC? DukeFenton? Staci? Someone else?
It is for this reason that I request (knowing full well it will be declined) that David Allyn be removed as “Imperial Tech Wizard” and his account removed from this blog.
Yeah, well, it doesn’t take a rocket scientist - or someone with a coffee-brewing degree from Seattle Community College - to figure out that you altered everyone’s comments before I dumped any of your messages.
And I don’t wanna hear any more of your bitching about the partial deletion of your bullshit the other night. You were wrong to do it, and I have all the backup I need on that.
Or maybe you shouldn’t have done ANY FUCKIN’ THING AT ALL! Did that thought ever cross that drug-hazed mind of yours?
You’ve apologized to every person but the one to whom you owe the biggest apology, dumbfuck. Not that I’m expecting one, given all the sniveling you’re doing at the moment.
And you’re not gonna get an apology, either, asshole. What you got, you fucking had coming.
Lie.
Neither do I, until you post pictures of people without their permission.
And you’re doing what right now? Crying because I told you what I’d do if you tried to fuck with me here, then actually went and did it?
Good Gawd Almighty™, but you’re a fucking whiner!!!
Since you posted unauthorized pictures before I clipped them, and since you did this little kiddie script of yours before I touched those 20 messages of yours, can we add “liar” to everything else you’ve proven yourself to be now?
Yes, please, go away. Feel free to come back when you can keep your gott-damned kiddie scripts to yourself.
October 17th, 2007 at 8:15 PMUsing
October 17th, 2007 at 8:35 PMUsing
Again…
Grow the f**k up. I hate using the f-bomb, but I need it for emphasis.
Keep your kindergarten arguments to yourselves and maybe have a flame war over it via your own blogs.
I don’t give a damn. This is nothing but your own prides being hurt and you know what they say about Pride…
Be man enough to admit your mistakes, and STOP pointing the fingers of blame at each other. I can tell you from a “chick standpoint” that it AIN’T sexy in the least. In fact, I’d ditch you both should you act like this in real life.
So get over it and quit using Misha’s blog to take out your grudges against each other.
Now that you’ve both apologized (and I’m very glad to see that) DROP IT. I don’t give a damn, nor do most of the LCs around here.
Drop a bomb on each other blogs if you cannot walk away from it. And don’t start anything that you damn well know you cannot finish.
Because as an LC, I am sick and tired of it. Especially anyone offering a dissenting opinion around here and being thrown under the bus instead of an honest debate. I’ve had it happen to me on Free Republic, and I what I know about Misha, he wouldn’t want it to have happen here what I experienced at FR.
Now show some respect and you both just STFU about it and quit the whining and calls for respective accounts being tossed.
Deal with it that NO ONE, 100% of the time, will agree with you 100% of the time. Deal with your differences like MEN and not the catty bitches that I have had the displeasure of having to work with over the years.
This is Misha’s blog, but if it were mine, I’d have revoked your “privileges” when this idiocy started going to far. You’re GROWN men for crying out loud.
That will be all I say about the subject. Now start acting your age.
October 17th, 2007 at 8:37 PMUsing
Lady H sez:
Roger that, Spats you would have scored a lot of points in the respect area if you had kept your last post to this:
You’re both management on this site, one hell of an example you’re setting if you ask me…Lady H won’t say it, and up to this point I’ve never used the F word on this site, but grow the fuck up and shut the fuck up….do those things and you’ll be a far better man than you are now.
oh, and if you guys want to continue this, can you do it on a hidden post or on maybe page 100 of this site? just so the rest of us LC’s don’t have to wallow through this shit? You both look like a couple of damned fools right now…..
October 17th, 2007 at 9:46 PMUsing
This will be my last comment for a while. I have contributed enough to the problem here that I feel that I should just stay clear.
If you expect me to have a condescending response to Spats, then you are mistaken. What would be the point?
Honest debate and argument is fun. The moment is ceases to be fun, then it should cease.
Well, it has stopped being fun for me.
I will still be available for all of the updates and problems as they arise here. I just need to focus more on my physical therapy, and other things.
October 18th, 2007 at 12:01 AMUsing
Now can we get on to something reaily important? Specifically, ME. To wit, I continue wondering why, after all these years, I still haven’t been appointed “Imperial Anonymous Source.” Especially since:
(1) I gave his Sithness that neat tip on Sean Penn being a Zionist agent;
(2) after Debbie Schlussel made her demented assuault on blogger Larry Auster (View from the Right), I got him in touch with the Emperor; and
(3) I am practically the only person here who goes by his real name.
Despite all this, I’m still a commoner. I hate having to say it, but I suspect antisemitism.
October 18th, 2007 at 12:40 AMUsing
Same for most of the rest of us.
Guys, I don’t come here to see two people I think of as friends playing “Hand Grenades at 10 Paces.”
For the last several days, this war has infected several threads. I come by, see the flames still rising, the insults (and some of them were quite . . er, over the top, shall we say?) still being hurled, threats still flying,
And promptly leave in disgust.
Enough, already.
Either:
1) Drop it entirely - not another farkin’ word;
2) Choose your weapons; or
3) Shake hands and be a civil.
=========================
This little corner of cyberspace has been my favorite watering hole for a couple of years, now. I come by to have a conversation with people I trust, learn something, and stomp the occasional troll. Neither of you qualify as trolls. Disagreement and debate are healthy, but . . damn, guys!
You both have the other’s e-mail address. Flame each other on your own dime.
=====================
Misha, You have shown admirable restraint. I suspect that had this been MY space and bandwidth they were wasting, I would have tossed both out on their ears a week ago.
And I appologize for wasting your bandwidth to say this.
October 18th, 2007 at 5:41 AMUsing
As a latecomer to this thread, I back tracked to try and follow it, and found that all of DJs posts were gone. Curious. Posts being altered? Bizzarre.A flame war within management? Unlikely on the Rott. Sadly IMHO, it appears to me at least that Spats post is reasonable.
The sad thing about all of this is that the idiots in the MSM (like Oreilly ) use stuff like this to discredit credible Blogs such as this. They did it to Free Republic, lets hope it doesnt reoccur here.
October 18th, 2007 at 9:52 AMUsing
Roger Glass,
Not to put too fine a point on it, but if you use your real name, you can’t be Imperial Anonymous Source because you AREN’T anonymous.
Now, if you wanted to be Imperial Purveyor of Anonymous Sources, you’d have my vote.
October 18th, 2007 at 10:09 AMUsing
OT, but the irony here is just TOOOOO rich not to mention:
http://tinyurl.com/2eyloj
October 18th, 2007 at 10:18 AMUsing
OT, but the irony here is just TOOOOO rich not to mention:
http://tinyurl.com/2eyloj
October 18th, 2007 at 10:19 AMUsing
Oy oy oy.
Skyechild, I stopped crying long enough to write this explanation.
You see, part of the absolutely sidesplitting humor in my brilliant little witticism is that I’m demanding to be appointed the Imperial Anonymous Source, when I’m the only one here who’s not anonymous.
Now please pardon me while I complete my seppuku.
October 19th, 2007 at 12:48 AMUsing
Oy vey, Roger mi khaver, how can I be such a schlemiel?
You’re absolutely right. I can think of none better qualified for the title of LC Roger Glass, Imperial Anonymous Source, so it is yours for the taking. Use it in good health
October 19th, 2007 at 12:59 AMUsing
I’ve lurked here for over a year, maybe longer. I’ve always -trusted- this site not to pull any funny biz with removing comments for anything other than gross violations of TOS. I find this most recent occurance to be higly disturbing.
This is stirring the shit, and I’m not really comfortable doing so. However, I feel having a clear picture of events is more important.
A member of management of this site;
1. installed and ran a script that modified other peoples comments without permisson from the comment owners, -or- the site owner.
2. Said script was installed on the primary site, and run while the site was active.
3. did not archive the comments prior to ‘editing’.
A -second- member of management proceeded to;
1. delete posts out of personal pique as opposed to following site protocol.
2. Engage in a highly public flamewar with the -first- admin.
If this is not a correct summary, please let me know via e-mail.
-If- this is a correct summary, my opinion is as follows.
1. There are channels for this sort of thing. Use them. If they dont exist, make them, and -then- use them. Management does not fight in public.
2. Running a ‘clone’ of this site on a seperate machine, and testing the changes there would be trival to do.
Why use the main site to test such a device?
Furthermore, what is the -purpose- of such a script?
I fail to see any legitimate purpose to it.
Finally, I have questions for Emperor Misha.
Do you intend to take action?
If so, do you intend to inform us?
With Respect,
Roguetek.
October 19th, 2007 at 2:48 AMUsing
Sire. Imperator. My Liege.
At long, long last, I have received, from your very own immaculate hand, a genuine Imperial title, granted by your peerless self.
My life is complete.
And rest assured, if I live long enough to see that glorious Day when you finally lead the Rottweilerian hosts into Armageddon, I will be in the van (no, fellow LCs, not a Dodge), waddling as fast as I can to keep up, chanting “One Beer, Please!” (don’t ask, anyone) in Danish at the top of my voice.
By the way, a thousand thousand pardons for my impertinence in daring to endeavor a correction of your matchless royal perfectionicity, but I think you mean “khaver sheli.” “Mi” in Hebrew is “who.”
With eternal gratitude.
Your Imperial Anonymous Source
October 19th, 2007 at 6:33 AMUsing
Roger Glass, Imperial Anonymous Source, My apologies. It was raining for days here (4, to be exact), so your blinding brilliance wasn’t able to get through the cloud cover.
I stand corrected. Now PUT DOWN THE SWORD!!!
October 19th, 2007 at 9:17 AMUsing
I agree with your assessment in toto.
Also, since this was a first incident and no real harm was done (and tempers were running out of control), the consequences for this time are limited to a stern warning which has been issued.
However, should there be a recurrence, and I trust that there WON’T be, accounts will promptly be inactivated without warning, effective immediately.
This is all about trust, and I want everybody posting here to be able to trust that their trust won’t be abused. This is non-negotiable.
Thatisall.
October 19th, 2007 at 11:45 AMUsing
Misha I
Spoken like an Emperor! Well done Sire…
October 19th, 2007 at 11:52 AMUsing
Thank you for your response. Now that I’ve got more time, expect me to be posting from time to time.
October 19th, 2007 at 12:23 PMUsing
Can I get back to the original intent of this post now?
I just have this followup that I should share with you:
Randi Rhodes was the source of the information Mark Green emailed to everyone. It was a two-lined email sent Sunday night to the AAR network telling them that she thinks she might have been mugged, and that she had lost conscienceness and suffered several broken front teeth.
She explained on her show immediately upon her return that all she remembers was something hitting her from behind, and coming to on the ground sometime later bleeding and then being in a lot of pain.
She also said she almost lost her eye in the incident.
She doesn’t know what happened, the doctors couldn’t find anything that could have caused her to fall.
But that is her public statement for what it is worth.
That said, I will back away from the political yak yak.
October 20th, 2007 at 12:46 AMUsing
She says a little more here. She confirms that she wasn’t out walking her dog, but was spending the day in an Irish pub, just like the commenter at The Gawker said. She’s not sure how she ended up face first into the sidewalk, but suggests that perhaps some “rude” person bumped into her.
Oh yeah, I should add that she couldn’t get through her explanation without taking a cheap shot at Blackwater. It was something to the effect that it couldn’t have been a Blackwater employee that bumped into her because she’d be dead, just ask any Iraqi.
October 20th, 2007 at 1:32 AMUsing
Skyechild, sorry it’s taken me so long to reply, but my mighty intellect wasn’t equal to the task of logging back in. Fortunately the Emperor came to my rescue.
Undoubtedly I’m not the first man you’ve driven to the brink of suicide, though with the others I’m sure the relevant issues were your beauty and unattainability. In any case, since you graciously and mercifully demanded that I abstain, I decided to live. Along with the rest of the Empire, you may now breathe a sigh of relief.
October 20th, 2007 at 3:17 AMUsing
“She doesn’t know what happened, the doctors couldn’t find anything that could have caused her to fall.”
hel-lo. -14- vodka bloody marys? jesus, I way 370 pounds and drink like a fish, and I’d be hesitant to down 14 vodkas and go for a walk. Down 14 vodkas and sit there for a while maybe, but go for a walk? no way, I might… fall down and bust my ass.
Liberal got drunk off her ass, fell down, blamed conservatives.
You know, that pretty much sums up a -lot- about our current situation.
liberal does something stupid, gets hurt, blames a conservative.
October 20th, 2007 at 6:52 AMUsing
So you know how absurd the idea that she drank fourteen bloody marys is, don’t you?
We witnessed the birth of a meme the other day when an anonymous commenter said she had been drinking fourteen vodkas.
a) When you are in a bar or a pub, do you pay attention to the stranger across the room and count how much he or she had to drink?
b) Randi Rhodes weighs maybe 130 lbs fully clothed. There is no way she could have made it to number fourteen — even if she had been there ten hours.
Did you miss the part where the doctors did all sorts of tests and found nothing that could explain her falling down on her own? I am certain that they would have tested her blood/alcohol level — which would have still been extraordiarily high if she had consumed fourteen vodka drinks.
The part you didn’t hear in that recordinig — where it was edited for content — was the part where she had gone to the pub for dinner and to watch the game.
I know it is hard to push a meme when the facts start getting in the way.
“Facts are stupid things” – Ronald Reagan
October 20th, 2007 at 10:17 AMUsing
LC Roger Glass, Imperial Anonymous Source
Congrats on the Imperial Designation,,well earned!
A “Real Man” would never let anyone off so easy as to cash in his own chips!
October 20th, 2007 at 10:31 AMNope.
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Dave:
I have never met Ms. Rhodes, but I once arrested a 30 year old woman about that size for DWI (1981, Fort Polk, LA). Her BAC (.42!) was so high that we took her to the hospital emergency room to have it confirmed medically and admitted for observation.
At the time of her arrest (remember, she had been driving her car), she was walking and talking. She might have gotten a pass if she hadn’t smelled like a brewery.
That would be the approximate BAC for a 130 pound woman after 14 shots of vodka in 4 hours. (A healthy liver burns off about 1 to 1.5 shots of 100 proof per hour. Sober would come about six to eight hours later.)
This is NOT an indictment of Ms. Rhodes, and not intended to be, but it is medically possible. Rare, but possible.
October 20th, 2007 at 12:18 PMUsing
DJ sez:
I disagree sir, at the peak (or valley) of my alcoholism I weighed 175 pounds and could drink 2 fifths of vodka daily and still function (somewhat). I also knew very petite women who could put down at least 14 drinks at a sitting.
Remember, a drink usually consists of a “shot” of liquor, a shot equals 1.5 ounces or 3 tablespoons of alcohol. Late term alcoholics have an enormously high tolerance…and a maintenance alcoholic like me could start first thing in the morning and drink all day, until I exceeded my tolerance and passed out. I’m not qualified to judge whether big mouth rhodes is an alcoholic or not, that’s something she has to do…but the point still stands, she fell down and busted some teeth and before the facts were known, her fellow blow hards at aar were blaming “bushhitlercheneyrovehalliburton right wing death squads”. Like I said a loooong time ago in this post:
paranoia strikes deep
October 20th, 2007 at 12:26 PMUsing
Well, since we’re speaking about “ability to hold liquor”, allow me to chime in based on personal experience, education and observations:
While it’s certainly true that body mass has something to do with your alcohol tolerance, it’s also one of those “everything else being equal” things, and “everything else” hardly ever *is* equal. I’m not exactly the bulkiest guy in the world, far from it, but I’m certainly able to and have been able to outdrink people at least 50% bulkier than my humble self, particularly since I moved to those wonderful shores. It’s genetics and background, that’s all there is to it. Overseas, when I worked as a bartender, we had several regulars of both sexes far “scrawnier” than Ms. Rhodes who most assuredly could hold down 14 Bloody Marys and then some, so pointing to her gender and body mass proves nothing at all. I’d have to know her personally to form a real opinion as to whether it’d be possible or not.
Which brings me to the second point, and Deej is absolutely right about that: None of us *know* her, much less know how much alcohol she’d consumed that day. All we have is one commenter claiming to know and, although it makes for a hilariously funny story, it doesn’t change the fact that it’s a “he said, she said” situation. If I *knew* the commenter in question, I’d be in a position to tell whether he(?) was telling the truth, but I’m not, so I can’t.
Bottom line: We don’t *know* what went on. That shouldn’t keep anybody from theorizing and speculating about it, that’s part of the fun after all and it’s not like we’re the ones most guilty of speculating here.
As long as we keep in mind that we don’t *know*, and we probably never will.
Another bottom line (if that’s even possible, since most times there can be only one line at the bottom of anything): We *know* that it wasn’t a BushHitlerburtonBlackwater conspiracy to Stifle Dissent™, and *that* ridiculous and overhyped assertion, more than anything else, was what turned this non-story into a story in the first place.
I just hope that Randi gets better soon and gets back on the air so I can mock her some more
October 20th, 2007 at 12:53 PMUsing
A mere lightweight in my hymble opinion. Back during my day, that was bare minimum stuff, starvation rations. May have something to do with being a half-Irish Catholic, on my mothers side the descendant of drunken convicts. Proudly half Aussie. I sometimes think I was genetically engineered for it. But as I achieved my status as master alcoholic, as with others here, I could hold phenomenal amounts of alcohol. I always could. A case, 12 fifths) of vodka during the week, maintenance, on weekends I did some serious drinking, usually having to dust off a 1.75 ml to finish my Sunday. But as the doc said when I was taken to the hospital, walking in; my BA .037, actually relatively coherent, I may have a problem. I never fell down face first on a sidewalk though, just a rosebush once. So it is truly amazing what some folks can accomplish with diligent application, repetition and practice. Been sixteen years now….but I see it around me and remember……
October 20th, 2007 at 1:41 PMUsing
Cave sez:
and many more Brudda, One Day at a Time.
-from a fellow twelve stepper-
October 20th, 2007 at 2:02 PMUsing
Not at all. I used to bounce for a living. I’ve seen people drink mind boggling amounts and still function.
Well, let’s get some clarification on that.
If I’m serving them, and they’re an asshole, -and- a public figure, you betcha.
Sorry, that’s just not so.
That, like the claim she was drunk to begin with, is an assumption. We do not -know-.
And what, she has some religious taboo against drinking while eating in a -bar-? The statement that she was there to have dinner and catch a game is meaningless. Those actions are usually done along -with- drinking. To imply that because she was eating and watching the game means that she wasnt drinking means nothing.
Lets look at the facts.
1. subject went to a bar.
2. subject came out of the bar some time later, fell down, and smashed her face.
The -most- probable answer is she fell down. period. end of story.
From what I’ve gathered so far, it is -probable- that she was drunk.
October 20th, 2007 at 2:50 PMUsing
Thank you, Cheapshot. I will try to be worthy of the honor bestowed upon me.
Jaybear, Caveman, my admiration. I’m lucky enough never to have taken up drinking. I love sody pop, and it was hard enough for me to switch to the diet stuff; I don’t think I’d have had the guts to swear off alcohol.
I’m betting that DJ, like me, doesn’t drink. Like DJ, I wouldn’t have believed that one human being could take in 14 drinks in one day. I don’t think I could manage 14 glasses of water. But from what you guys say, I guess it’s possible.
October 20th, 2007 at 5:24 PMUsing
Folks,
Isn’t it just amazing how the story went from the “official” first released version of her being attacked while walking her dog to the actual fact that she drank herself stupid, and no excuses from the leftists “quick to blame” comments were never received! Anything that blemish their “image” isn’t something for them to say “sorry” about, isn’t it!
October 22nd, 2007 at 10:56 AMHypocritical socioshiteaters…
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