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Somebody went digging into the record of The Only Certified Nutcase Who Can Save America™ and found out that he’s not as opposed to pork barreling as he’d like everybody to believe. And not only that, he’s quite clever about it. Loading up bills with pork for himself and then, once he’s sure that the bill will pass, voting against it anyway just to prove his “purity.”

So just where in the Constitution are your $126,102,000 worth of pork justified, Mr. “If It Ain’t In The Constitution, I’m Against It?”

Did we mention that Ron Paul is a lying, hypocritical, certifiable loon?

MUAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

(Link thanks to LC Rurik).

56 Responses to “Gee, We Guess Ron Paulnut Isn’t All That Pure After All”
  1. LC Mrs. M-ITT™ Comment by LC Mrs. M-ITT™

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    Oh the PaulBots heads must be spinning mightily trying to figure a way to get around this. Can we harness the energy to run the Rotty/Rove/Bush/Cheney/Halliburton/Blackwater Mind Ray™ for a few hours? Save us having to pay Mope for more offsets. :em99:

  2. Mad Insomniac Comment by Mad Insomniac

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    “Fried shrimp, grilled shrimp, stewed shrimp, shrimp cocktail, shrimp creole, shrimp pot pie, shrimp chop suey, shrimp spaghetti, shrimp pizza, shrimp ice cream….”

    Kinda appropriate that shrimp appears to be the major industry in his district, and that the whole thing lends itself so easily to a “Forrest Gump” reference. :em01:

  3. MuscleDaddy Comment by MuscleDaddy

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    Lahf is lahk uh box a’ nutjobs…

    …’course, so is a busload of Paulbots - who’ll be choking on their own tongues once this starts making the rounds.

    - MuscleDaddy

  4. B.C., Imperial Torturer™ Comment by B.C., Imperial Torturer™

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    Test.

    Oh Noes!!! We All Gonna Die!!!

    Man, this is gonna come in VERY handy for so many stories in the years to come… MUWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

  5. LC 0311 crunchie I.M.H. Comment by LC 0311 crunchie I.M.H.

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    Time to set the bait for the PaulBots.

    Only Ron Paul can save the country!

    There, that aught a do it. Here ronulan, ronulan, ronulan…

    The pups need some new chew toys.

  6. LC MoMinuteMan Comment by LC MoMinuteMan

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    If I may, I have an Off Topic request…

    A while back, someone posted a couple of links to “What If??” stories. One was “Cold Camp” I believe and I can’t remember the other. If someone has these handy, could you please re-post or email them to me?? My mobo took a dump on me and I had to re-format the H/D, wiping out my copies of the .pdfs… Thanks in advance…

    What, me back up files??? :em41: :em58:

  7. Skul Comment by Skul

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    Heh, B.C. beat me to the “Oh Noes”.
    A note of interest about the “unsung heroes #7″… the Houston Chronical had a very nice write-up about Lt Jackson today.
    I was somewhat surprised. (and pleased) :em69:

  8. Unregistered Comment by jbuist

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    Paulbots - who’ll be choking on their own tongues once this starts making the rounds.

    Err, it’s already made the rounds, that is to say, any supporter of Ron Paul should have known this by now.

    The fact of the matter is a congressman has the job of getting his constituents tax money back into the district. It’s unfortunate, but that’s how things work these days. The federal government over taxes us and our congresscritters have to fight over that pile of money to get the district’s fair share back again.

    I’ll go check some numbers on this.

  9. Kristopher, LC Comment by Kristopher, LC

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    Err, it’s already made the rounds, that is to say, any supporter of Ron Paul should have known this by now.

    Nevertheless … except for the spending on roads and waterways, the rest of his earmarks are completely unconstitutional.

  10. Unregistered Comment by jbuist

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    Oh Lookee here.

    The Citizens Against Waste give Ron Paul a 95% rating on pork spending which puts him in their “Taxpayer Hero” category.

  11. Radical Redneck Comment by Radical Redneck

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    Paul-pots counterfeiting money with their idol’s picture! :shock: :em95: :em38:

  12. LC MoMinuteMan Comment by LC MoMinuteMan

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    Speaking of getting fucked on taxes, here’s a little something that came to my attention during a conversation at the bus garage today…

    The Wrench Bender was talking about how some trucking outfit in the area is being investigated by the .gov for using farm fuel (untaxed) for their road trucks. He then brought up the fuel that we all use for lawnmowers, ATVs, chainsaws, etc., and WHERE we get that fuel from. We are all paying road use taxes for fuel for things that will never see any use on a public road.

    Uncle Gimme has us so reamed out, he can slip in some dicks that we don’t even notice…

  13. DJ Allyn,  ITW Comment by DJ Allyn, ITW

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    Nevertheless … except for the spending on roads and waterways, the rest of his earmarks are completely unconstitutional.

    How so? As jbuist @ #9 points out, that is exactly the reason the people in his district planted his butt in Washington — to get them a piece of the pie. Better the people in his district than the corporate interests that line the pockets of most of the Beltway fucknozzles.

    Personally, I am not a Ron Paul supporter. I know that he has sparked the interest of a few Liberals solely on his war stance, but he is also a racist and anti-semite.

    So just where in the Constitution are your $126,102,000 worth of pork justified, Mr. “If It Ain’t In The Constitution, I’m Against It? ”

    I think that this is another problem I have with people like Ron Paul. I was brought up with the idea that if there wasn’t a law that outlawed something, then it had to be legal. But Ron Paul has a different take on it apparently. He only goes by what is or isn’t “allowed” in the Constitution?

  14. LC HJ Caveman82952 Comment by LC HJ Caveman82952

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    Looks like his supporters won’t know whether to shit or go blind….should be fun to watch.

  15. thepresenceusmc Comment by thepresenceusmc

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    Yawn…

    I guess Red State forgot to source his hit piece. Is this the same Red State that’s banning Ron Paul supporters? Sounds about like the NY Times manufacturing biased news.

    Could be wrong, and I do support Paul (in the interests of disclosure). This isn’t the first time this has been alleged, and I just wonder why this list never has sources whenever it surfaces. Why does Paul’s old opponent despise Paul BECAUSE he doesn’t bring the pork home?

    “He’s definitely an enigma,” said Allen Cumbie, the head of the Democratic Party in Matagorda County, Texas. “I don’t even think he tries to get legislation passed that benefits this district … and yet he continues to be elected year after year. I don’t really know how to explain it.” (Source)

  16. spiffus Comment by spiffus

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    Deej said,

    I think that this is another problem I have with people like Ron Paul. I was brought up with the idea that if there wasn’t a law that outlawed something, then it had to be legal. But Ron Paul has a different take on it apparently. He only goes by what is or isn’t “allowed” in the Constitution?

    I believe that the principle is taken from the Tenth Amendment in the Bill of Rights, which specifically states that powers not delegated to the federal government, nor prohibited to the states, belong to the states and the people. As a bonus, the folks that actually wrote the Constitution, like Madison, seem to agree (see the third paragraph from the bottom).

    I don’t know that Ron Paul adheres to this or not, as I’m not a follower, but it seems to me that the Founders put their intent in words that even us non-lawyers can understand. :) As Madison states, as does the Tenth Amendment, the majority of powers are delegated to the States, not the federal government. In other words, if I have an issue I want addressed, if it isn’t local, I should be headed to Austin, not Washington, for the most part.

    Just my $0.02.

    BTW, Deej, I haven’t been around lately, so I’m a bit behind on the news…how’s your health, if you don’t mind me asking?

  17. NevadaDailySteve Comment by NevadaDailySteve

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    I was brought up with the idea that if there wasn’t a law that outlawed something, then it had to be legal.

    Well, let us see what the Constitution says:
    Amendment IX The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people.

    Amendment X The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the states, are reserved to the states respectively, or to the people.

    Kinda depends on if you’re talking about what a regular citizen can do and what the Congress or Congresscritter can do. Unless of course you believe in the living Constitution crap that some people spout.

    What a Congresscritter means when they say they can bring home more money that their district contributes in taxes is that they are an accomplished thief who can steal money from other districts hard-working taxpayers to fund the lazy bastiches in their own district who aren’t willing to pay for the services they want.

  18. CiSSnarl5.7 Comment by CiSSnarl5.7

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    How so? As jbuist @ #9 points out, that is exactly the reason the people in his district planted his butt in Washington — to get them a piece of the pie.

    How so Deej?

    Well for starters will someone please point me to the part of the consitution or law that defines a politicians right to take a bill for funding of X and insert additional funding for y? While y = a provision that has NOTHING whatsoever to do with the original bill in the first place? Anyone?

    For example Congresscritter Paul reviews a bill for highway spending….he mulls it over and says “BING” “Hey my district needs this new park & community center built and if we add an earmark into page 693 par III Subsection 2 the Federal government pays for it…and by twisting the words like so…We can justify the additional funding”.

    Never mind that planting a copse of trees, building a swing set, (that some ambulance chaser will eventually sue the government over because Johnny cracked his big toe on it..but thats another rant entirely), and a community center for 20 something year old thugs to play basketball at mid night…. has nothing to do with that proposed highway spending.

    Explain to me; how does one go from, lets say, the bridge over the Guadalupe River needs federal funds for maintenance which is certainly a highway related request, to building a park 10 miles away from the nearest highway? Because somewhere a road will eventually lead to it… that some how justifies this 200 million dollar earmark for a park?? Hogwash.

    In the real world such antics especially in regards to finances are called FRAUD. But in “Crapress” it’s all good. You can call it pork, you can call it earmarks, you can call it additional spending,..in the end EARMARKS are FRAUD.

    Understandably, I am not a politician, (thank G-d) and I don’t know half of all the ins and outs of a bill that makes it to the floor for a vote, but what I do know is this sort of pork barrel spending and the twisting of a bill to add ear marks and additional funds for projects not in the orignal bill, or directly related to that bill, is not in the constitution.

    Furthermore, from my view point as a tax payer that statement I just made in regards to not understanding the earmarking processes is what these vultures in DC like Paul, Pelosi, McCain, Hildabeast, et all WANT us to think. They WANT us to think that we couldnt possibly understand the “very complex processes” of these bills. So like stupid sheep we ba-ba our way along right into higher taxes and more government intrusion into our lives. On this point, Ronald Regan said it best; “The scariest words I ever heard were I’m from the federal government and I’m here to help”.

    Watch C-SPAN and listen to the debates; it’s akin to tourture, because nothing really gets said; they pontifcate and bluster, they wail and bitch, they curse the other side, and all the while 100 plus aides are seen scurrying back and forth putting last minute “revisions” AKA Earmarks, into the bill on the floor, and sucking so and so Congresscritters ample ass to change thier nay to a yay…

    In my view earmarks have to stop….I know that at one time earmarks and additional funding requests were used in an effort to streamline the legislative funding process, this was done because the size and scope (directly against the constitution mind you) of the Federal governemnt got bigger, and BIGGER …and BIGGER still…but like anything in DC even if it was meant as an efficent way to govern… it grew into a malignant cancer and it needs to be excised. The pack rats in both the GOP and DNC in DC are killing us with this spending.

    Paul or any other DC weasel wants a park in his/her district built they either raises a temporary levey on the local populace to pay for it or he requests funding from the Federal government via a bill entirely on it’s own.

    I’m reminded here of State Rt 44 in Va Beach Va, it connects the beach to Interstate 64 and gives a direct shot to Downtown Norfolk. To build this road the state of VA put up toll booths. 25 cents for each car, and 10 cents at exits if you got on and off above or below the 25 cent toll. It was a hugh cash cow for not only the City of Va Beach, but as far away as Richmond. Sadly as with any government project eventually the tolls paid for the highway, had paid for it for years, but they left the booths up until such time they got caught with thier grubby paws of the locals pockets and it got very ugly very quick. But thats an example of what I am saying…you want a park, then the local money should pay for it.

    Secondly why are my hard earned tax dollars going to Texas? No Offense to Texans on this blog, but I dont live there, I will never live there most likely, and therefore the theoritical park I just outlined is nothing I will ever enjoy or use. The same applies in reverse, I live in TN, why in G-d’s Green earth should I expect to get money from the taxpayers of TX or the other 49 other states for projects inside my state…it’s f’n madness!!

    If local funding for this park is not feasible it goes onto a separate bill and goes for a vote.

    Pass a law like that and watch the roaches scurry…because then they ARE accountable for every friggin bill they spin up.. it’s all wishfull thinking I know, but it needs to happen… The system in DC is FUBAR, and there is no solution other than some very radical changes ot the way DC does business. Reset Button anyone?

  19. Alan K. Henderson Comment by Alan K. Henderson

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    What is Congressman Keith Ellison (D-Mecca) doing to fight all this Congressional pork?

  20. Unregistered Comment by LC Neokien

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    The Citizens Against Waste give Ron Paul a 95% rating on pork spending which puts him in their “Taxpayer Hero” category.

    Worst. game. ever.

  21. Xystus Comment by Xystus

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    Anyone else notice the mischief potential presented by the head Paul-iwog coin huckster’s name: Bernard von NotHaus?

  22. Sir Guido Cabrone, LC, M.o.P. Comment by Sir Guido Cabrone, LC, M.o.P.

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    MOMinuteMan

    If’n I can find yer email at your blog, I’ll just send them to you.

    I was the one that posted the links.

    Can your mailbox deal with files that size?

  23. Sir Guido Cabrone, LC, M.o.P. Comment by Sir Guido Cabrone, LC, M.o.P.

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    And I can’t find the links anymore… Changed OS’s, and the bookmarks were in the Win-DOZE drive… But I have the files saved on Data…

  24. Emperor Misha I Comment by Emperor Misha I

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    The Citizens Against Waste give Ron Paul a 95% rating on pork spending which puts him in their “Taxpayer Hero” category.

    Of course they do. They rate after yes or no votes on pork barrel laden bills, after all and, as I mentioned, he has this trick where he loads up a bill with pork, makes sure that the votes are there to get it passed, then votes “nay” on it to call himself “pure.”

    Or maybe it’s just because all of the other congress critters feel sorry for him and like him so much that they feel that he should get some pork whether he likes it or not. I suppose it could be possible.

  25. Sir Guido Cabrone, LC, M.o.P. Comment by Sir Guido Cabrone, LC, M.o.P.

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    Or, you could get mine from Emperor Bossman, and I will reply with them as attachments.

  26. DJ Allyn,  ITW Comment by DJ Allyn, ITW

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    Oy, how can what I said be so misunderstood?

    The people ARE the government. “We the People”. I know that we’ve kind of gotten away from that lately, but the Constitution gave US the power, not a handful of men. But I digress.

    I was simply stating that unless there is a law or Constitutional prohibition against something, then it cannot be against the law or Constitution.

    And yes, CiSSnarl5.7, it is perfectly understandable how a district can wind up with more money than the taxpayers of the district put into it. You could go to many of the “flyover” “red states” to see that they have gotten MUCH more money from the Feds than what they paid into it.

    Why?

    Because we are the “UNITED” states, and we like to have seemless infrastructure as we pass from one place to another.

  27. DдrтH бдкфи Comment by DдrтH бдкфи

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    You could go to many of the “flyover” “red states” to see that they have gotten MUCH more money from the Feds than what they paid into it.

    Which ones, please.

    And do they compare to “blue” states’ relative contributions versus benefits? I’d be interested to see where this data comes from.

  28. CiSSnarl5.7 Comment by CiSSnarl5.7

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    And yes, CiSSnarl5.7, it is perfectly understandable how a district can wind up with more money than the taxpayers of the district put into it. You could go to many of the “flyover” “red states” to see that they have gotten MUCH more money from the Feds than what they paid into it.

    Why?

    I think you missed my point Deej, how does one go from funds that are to be used to maintain roads, and the infrastructure of which you speak, to things like earmarks for something like my theroitical park? Or as recently illustrated, in the Dems 50 billion spending bill for the War, that is going to get shot down, which is loaded with things no where near related in any shape or form to the military?

    It’s not the amount or even what state it goes to Deej, that’s not the point, it’s that earmarks and add in spending on these bills that is allowed to happen at all is the point I was trying to make.

  29. LC SkyeChild G.L.O.R. Comment by LC SkyeChild G.L.O.R.

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    You could go to many of the “flyover” “red states” to see that they have gotten MUCH more money from
    the Feds than what they paid into it.

    As I live in one of those “flyover” “red states,” I’m curious as to which ones have gotten MUCH more money from the feds than
    the people put in.

    I was simply stating that unless there is a law or Constitutional prohibition against something, then it cannot
    be against the law or Constitution.

    Does this include the “constitutional” separation of church and state which the libs are always bandying about? Such
    thing does NOT exist, yet it’s accepted as such.

  30. Deathknyte Comment by Deathknyte

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    As I live in one of those “flyover” “red states,” I’m curious as to which ones have gotten MUCH more money from the feds than
    the people put in.

    Arizona for one.

  31. LC Rurik Comment by LC Rurik

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    Just remember, Ronpaul died for our sins. [/snark]

  32. Sir Guido Cabrone, LC, M.o.P. Comment by Sir Guido Cabrone, LC, M.o.P.

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    Does this include the “constitutional” separation of church and state which the libs are always bandying about? Such
    thing does NOT exist, yet it’s accepted as such.

    No. Deej is right in this. (looking around for lightning bolts and falling asteroids, not to mention four horsemen, I am agreeing with Deej here, after all!)

    Our system was always predicated on the basis of “What is not forbidden is permitted”. We have gotten away from that, to where it is now more of a, “What is not permitted is forbidden”, which is completely backwards from what we, as Americans, feel the law should be.

    It is a system which strangles our freedom, our thought, our creativity, our lives.

    And, in the end, it is what I believe will trigger the reset switch.

  33. DJ Allyn,  ITW Comment by DJ Allyn, ITW

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    Does this include the “constitutional” separation of church and state which the libs are always bandying about? Such
    thing does NOT exist, yet it’s accepted as such.

    About as much as it states that this country was founded on the Christian faith as many Conservatives are always tossing out there. The words “God”, “Church”, and “Christian” don’t appear anywhere in the Constitution.

    It was important enough for the original Congress to include in the first amendment to the Constitution the prohibition against the government ESTABLISHING a religion and also against prohibiting the free exercise of any religion.

    The “wall” is the boundary that keeps the government out of religion and is supposed to keep the church out of the government.

    While the words, “separation between church and state” don’t appear in the Constitution, the concept is there with the following:

    Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof;

    Now that shouldn’t be construed as the government can’t TALK about religion, or have nativity scenes in publically owned places. It just means that the government can’t establish, influence, or be influenced by a particular religion or faith. There is no state religion.

    That “wall of separation” keeps the government from promoting Islam or any other religion as well as prohibits it from establishing the Christian faith as its national religion. It doesn’t mean that currently the majority of people in this country practice some form or brand of Christian faith — it’s just that it isnt a government-sponsored religion — and shouldn’t be.

    Our system was always predicated on the basis of “What is not forbidden is permitted”. We have gotten away from that, to where it is now more of a, “What is not permitted is forbidden”, which is completely backwards from what we, as Americans, feel the law should be.

    Thank you — that is exactly what I was saying.

  34. CiSSnarl5.7 Comment by CiSSnarl5.7

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    Personally, I am not a Ron Paul supporter. I know that he has sparked the interest of a few Liberals solely on his war stance, but he is also a racist and anti-semite.

    Where is this coming from? I’m not hammering you Deej, I’m just wondering….I don’t like Paul he’s way to isolationist for my taste, but I haven’t seen any of these charges anywhere ‘cept here.

  35. Unregistered Comment by LC sgtmech

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    Personally, i’m not too thrilled with ANY candidate of either party…

  36. DJ Allyn,  ITW Comment by DJ Allyn, ITW

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    but I haven’t seen any of these charges anywhere ‘cept here.

    I hadn’t heard them either until the other day, so I did a quickie Google Search. There is a lot mentioned about a newsletter from the 1980s where he talked about 95 percent of blacks would be arrested, and that they were “fleet-footed”. He also had things to say about the “evils” of Israel.

    After a bit more reading today, it appears that he says he didn’t write any of that, and that he disavows the “ghost writer” of his newsletter.

    Funny, since it was HIS newsletter and that it took him all the way up until now to disavow?

    He has ties to Larry Pratt and Pat Buchanan and has a 100 percent approval rating from the John Birch Society’s Conservative Index (PDF). Stormfront, a “White Pride” forum has endorsed him also, He may not have asked for such endorsements, but birds of a feather…

  37. Mike M Comment by Mike M

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    [Paul] has a 100 percent approval rating from the John Birch Society’s Conservative Index. Stormfront, a “White Pride” forum has endorsed him also.

    They probably became enamored with him after that Howard Cosell moment when he or his staffer made the “fleet footed” black teenagers remark or when he reportedly said that 95% of the black male population of DC were criminals.

    He may not have asked for such endorsements, but birds of a feather…

    Yep, kinda like when Kerry garnered that much coveted endorsement from the Communist Party USA.

  38. DJ Allyn,  ITW Comment by DJ Allyn, ITW

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    Yep, kinda like when Kerry garnered that much coveted endorsement from the Communist Party USA.

    Of course the Communist Party had to give their endorsement to someone, so picking the lesser of two evils pretty much guaranteed that Bush wasn’t going to get the nod.

    On a side note: My evil plan (and mostly Misha’s desire) has succeeded beyond my wildest dreams. I now have three columns on the front page and can still preserve a single sidebar on the back pages to display the blogads.

    I hope you are happy.

  39. LC SkyeChild G.L.O.R. Comment by LC SkyeChild G.L.O.R.

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    I hope you are happy.

    I, for one, like the fact that I don’t have to scroll back and forth anymore just to read the posts.

  40. DJ Allyn,  ITW Comment by DJ Allyn, ITW

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    I, for one, like the fact that I don’t have to scroll back and forth anymore just to read the posts.

    Uh, what screen resolution are you using?

    You shouldn’t have to scroll back and forth if you are using 1024×768 or higher.

    I am working on an 800×600 resolution version of this theme right now. You will have the option of being able to chose resolutions soon enough.

  41. LC SkyeChild G.L.O.R. Comment by LC SkyeChild G.L.O.R.

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    Deej, I’m using 800×600, and it’s fine today. The past few days, however, I’ve had to scroll to read the posts. If you didn’t do anything, then I can’t explain it.

  42. CiSSnarl5.7 Comment by CiSSnarl5.7

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    LMAO.. :em01:
    This whole thing is a shining example of what happens when the far right and far left get thier selves thier 15 minutes of fame in the poltical arena…and it’s frankley hillarious.

    Again I do not like Paul I think he’s as queer as a football bat…(Obilgatory Disclaimer: “queer” in this case has nothing to do with being homosexual, queer is used in it’s CORRECT contex as “odd” “strange” etc).

    Trotting out the racist card Deej is beneath you, you surpised me on this one.

    With one of the highest if not the highest crime rates in the country, DC based on the fact it is smaller than most large cities in population, and heavily populated with minorities maybe 95% is more of an accuarate number then anyone wants to admit….Is it overly inflated …I’ll conceed that yes it most likely is…. but his basic premise and argument is sound. Google Crime Rates Washington DC and read the stats they speak for themsleves.

    This IMO is one of those cases where the left goes postal anytime you point out that fact of our Nations Capital is mostly a welfare case, unarmed, and a poster child for what happens in most metropolitian areas when the Leftist, GFW, nanny statists try thier hand at stomping the second ammendment and disasterous socialistic projects. But don’t you DARE mention it, or you get the racist card thrown on you.

    That he points out this crime problem and it’s realtionship to the minorites in the community in such a clumsy way does not make him a “racist”.

    NEXT!

    Stormfront’s endorsement is because they are Isolationsit just like any good Nazi’s should be, it’s the whole master race thing, so they’ve jumped on his isolationist rehtoric, which is just as stuck on STOOPID of them as the left is guilty of in this case. Point; the man is a Doctor, a baby doc…he by his own claim has deliverd some 3, 000 babies in Texas which, Ahem, borders Mexico and has a huge hispanic population….LMAO Does Stormfront really think all those babies were members of the “master race”? DUH.

    His comments on the Jewish Lobby..same thing, or are we going to argue about the power of the ADL and other Jewish Lobbying groups in DC? Because he points this out, he’s anti-jew? Provide me with something other than a 20 some odd year old newsletter as proof that they cant even prove he wrote or approved for release, and I’ll rethink it.

    Sorry Deej, none of this passes the bullshit test. It’s borderline hystronics and a smear attack with some very queer (Disclaimer above) elements like the far right Stormfront morons mixed in for “texture”…

    In closing… hey I’m a white 40 something and even worse I call a “redneck state” my home..*GASP* so I couldn’t possible be right in my assement on this issue…isn’t that how it goes these days?

    God forbid anyone simply point out the facts as they are anymore, because then you’re a racist, anti-this, anti that… or your a BADDDDDDD MAN and you hurt people’s feelings…PFFFT!

  43. ohio right wing nut Comment by ohio right wing nut

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    #26 DEEJ

    In The Declartion Of Independence it does state and I quote”WE HOLD THESE TRUTHS TO BE SELF EVIDENT, THAT ALL MEN ARE CREATED EQUAL, THAT THEY ARE ENDOWED BY THEIR CREATOR WITH CERTAIN UNALIENABLE RIGHTS”

    The Constitution does not grant WE THE PEOPLE the power our CREATOR does.

    That to secure these rights,governments are instituted among men,deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed.

    “BUT WHEN A LONG TRAIN OF ABUSES AND USURPATIONS, PURSUING INVARIABLY THE SAME OBJECT ENVINCES A DESIGN TO REDUCE THEM UNDER ABSOLUTE DESPOTISM, IT IS THEIR RIGHT, THEIR DUTY,TO THROW OFF SUCH GOVERNMENT, AND PROVIDE NEW GAURDS FOR THEIR FUTURE SECURITY.”
    :em96: Reset button time? :em96:

  44. LC MoMinuteMan Comment by LC MoMinuteMan

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    Sir Guido, my addy is my handle minus the LC in all lower-case at charter dot net. I can receive fairly large attachments, not sure how big tho. Might be best to send them separately, just to be sure. And thanks. The one about life after Billary’s election kept me spell bound until I forced myself to put it down and go to bed.

    It also prompted me to go out and buy more ammo… too much rang too true…

  45. psychochick Comment by psychochick

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    Snarl
    I thought you presented a good analysis. I didn’t think it was at all racist or evil. (And remember–I’m one of them.)

  46. DJ Allyn,  ITW Comment by DJ Allyn, ITW

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    Deej, I’m using 800×600, and it’s fine today. The past few days, however, I’ve had to scroll to read the posts. If you didn’t do anything, then I can’t explain it.

    Well, I was still in the middle of putting everything together over the past few days. I should be done now — especially since you are telling me its fine.

    800×600? Is there any special reason for such a low resolution? My computer can’t even get that low any more. 1024×768 is the lowest this computer goes, and right now I am at 1280×1024.

    I did make it possible for you to see another version of this site, specifically for those of you with 800×600 resolution. It doesn’t have much there as far as bells, whistles, gimmicks, or lollipops, and it isn’t something I plan on supporting. There are no smilies, no Instant Bark — just the bone, bare minimum. But it is perfect for the older machines that just don’t have the oomph for all the newfangled stuff.

    Trotting out the racist card Deej is beneath you, you surpised me on this one.

    Actually, I am not the one who trotted it out. There has been numerous references all over the place for about a week now. I just happened to run across it myself a day or two ago, and heard it in passing about a week ago. I Googled it earlier today and found a lot of echo chamber stuff on it, with the standard denial and deflection by the Ron Paul camp.

    But I did find the Stormfront forum and the JBS references which indicates some sort of kindred spirits or a meshing of certain attributes, shall we say.

    With one of the highest if not the highest crime rates in the country, DC based on the fact it is smaller than most large cities in population, and heavily populated with minorities maybe 95% is more of an accuarate number then anyone wants to admit….Is it overly inflated …I’ll conceed that yes it most likely is…. but his basic premise and argument is sound. Google Crime Rates Washington DC and read the stats they speak for themsleves.

    I’ve been to DC on numerous occasions and it is hard to tell where the most crooks are: in government or the permanent residents. Truly a swamp of degradation. It reminds me of a third world country in many respects.

    CiSSnarl5.7, I spent only a few moments reading some of the stuff written there. What I did notice was that much of the stuff people are complaining about was written on his newsletter fifteen or twenty years ago. The interesting thing is that

    a) nobody complained about it until recently;
    b) Ron Paul himself didn’t distance himself from the statements he claims were written by a “ghost writer” on HIS newsletter at the time.

    I didn’t bring it up here to tar him with the race brush. I mentioned it because it was something that has been going around.

    I have listened to Ron Paul talk, and there are some things I agree with him on, and many others that I don’t. After spending a little time today reading some of the accusations and commentary on the accusations I am somewhat willing to give him the benefit of the doubt.

    But it doesn’t mean I would ever consider supporting him for President.

    I would support Kucinich (who has as much chance of winning the primary as I do) only because of all the candidates he has had the most consistent record.

    Of course if you really want a winning ticket, why not go with Goldwater/Miller ‘08?

    The Constitution does not grant WE THE PEOPLE the power our CREATOR does.

    The Declaration of Independence is not law. The Constitution does NOT even mention a CREATOR, it specifically gives the power to “WE THE PEOPLE”. The Constitution is the ultimate law of the land, and WE THE PEOPLE are the government.

    This is basic stuff that used to be taught in school civics class. While the majority of people in this country follow one faith or another, out system of government is purposely and deliberately secular.

  47. CiSSnarl5.7 Comment by CiSSnarl5.7

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    I have listened to Ron Paul talk, and there are some things I agree with him on, and many others that I don’t. After spending a little time today reading some of the accusations and commentary on the accusations I am somewhat willing to give him the benefit of the doubt.

    Deej, I was right along with you and even with his anti-war stance, (contrary to popular thought even SOME contractors hate this war, we understand the need for it, but like the old adage says…no one hates war more than a warrior) was until recently really watching his run with a serious eye.

    Ron Paul, despite his stance on the War peaked my interest briefly, and I too am somewhat isolationsit in my views, especially when it comes to such things as sending billions of dollars in aid overseas when our own society has hunger and homlessness to confront.

    But as a centrist / traditionalist American… and as certain issues such as this topic with his earmarking bills start popping up, I’m more forced to look at him with an ever critical eye, and he’s not passing the smell test..but then again NONE of these people are, Ceratinly not COL Klintoon, Krazy Kunich, Oh Boy Obama, G-string Guilani, Rino Romi, Feckless Fred… all of them are starting to stink to high heaven.

    *sigh* If this is the best America can do for a presidential candiate…we are seriously up shits creek and we just tossed the paddle over the side….

  48. Alan K. Henderson Comment by Alan K. Henderson

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    Read these words from the concluding paragraph in the Declaration of Independence:

    We, therefore, the Representatives of the united States of America, in General Congress, Assembled, appealing to the Supreme Judge of the world for the rectitude of our intentions, do, in the Name, and by Authority of the good People of these Colonies, solemnly publish and declare, That these united Colonies are, and of Right ought to be Free and Independent States, that they are Absolved from all Allegiance to the British Crown, and that all political connection between them and the State of Great Britain, is and ought to be totally dissolved; and that as Free and Independent States, they have full Power to levy War, conclude Peace, contract Alliances, establish Commerce, and to do all other Acts and Things which Independent States may of right do.

    The Declaration is law. As a legal document it serves two purposes. First, it establishes the political sovereignty of the thirteen States. Second, it enumerates certain rights retained by the people (borrowing from the wording of the Ninth Amendment), all of which the King of England had violated - such violations being the very reason for this political severance from the British crown. Such as the right to foreign trade (”For cutting off our Trade with all parts of the world”) - let the trade protectionists stick that in their eye. Or the right to trial by jury.

    Of course, our founding legal document says rights come from God (”all men…are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights”).

  49. LC SkyeChild G.L.O.R. Comment by LC SkyeChild G.L.O.R.

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    800×600? Is there any special reason for such a low resolution? My computer can’t even get that low any more. 1024×768 is the lowest this computer goes, and right now I am at 1280×1024.

    Yep. Easier for me to see.

  50. thepresenceusmc Comment by thepresenceusmc

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    What, no interest in sourcing?

    Is Red State going to come forward with his sources? If so, when?

    I read that list before…from a chain email.

  51. SoCalOilMan, LC Comment by SoCalOilMan, LC

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    LC SkyeChild G.L.O.R.

    As I live in one of those “flyover” “red states,” I’m curious as to which ones have gotten MUCH more money from the feds than
    the people put in.

    Here’s some stat by state stats from “The Tax Foundation” on Federal Taxes Paid vs. Federal Spending Received by State, 1981-2005.

    I was surprised at which states got back more than they paid in.

  52. Sir Guido Cabrone, LC, M.o.P. Comment by Sir Guido Cabrone, LC, M.o.P.

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    SoCalOilMan

    Looks to me like states with large a proportion of military/government personnel in relation to their total population rank very highly on that scale.

    I wonder what it would look like if it were to be broken down without those funds included.

  53. ohio right wing nut Comment by ohio right wing nut

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    Deej

    Once again your reading comprehesion is lacking, I never implied The Declaration was the law of the land. I was pointing out how you think a piece of parchment gives us our rights, when it is actually our CREATOR. you may define that as your mom and dad, but most define that as a higher being, God,Allah,or what ever rock or idol or spaceship that you (not you deej) believe in.

  54. ohio right wing nut Comment by ohio right wing nut

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    ALAN K

    I’ll be down in your area in a couple of months we’ll have to get together for a drink.

  55. DJ Allyn,  ITW Comment by DJ Allyn, ITW

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    The Declaration is law.

    Nope. Not so. It is a document that existed before the United States was created. It has no legal standing now. There is not a court in the land that refers to it, and I have never heard anyone say that something is “Declarationable”

    At the most, it is a document that nullifies a rule. Our laws are derived from the US Constitution and not the Declaration of Independence. Not even the Constitition references the Declaration.

    I never implied The Declaration was the law of the land.

    You implied it by mentioning it and as you can see, people like Alan K. actually think it is.

  56. Alan K. Henderson Comment by Alan K. Henderson

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    Nope. Not so. It is a document that existed before the United States was created. It has no legal standing now.

    The document created the United States of America. It still has legal status, because the United States still legally exists.

    There is not a court in the land that refers to it

    Because nobody is challenging in court the USA’s legal right to exist. And (to the best of my knowledge) nobody arguing Ninth Amendment-relevant court cases is clever enough to recognize that the Declaration cites specific rights retained by the people.