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Because, thanks to a news bit found by this fine site, we think that it’s about time for some payback against all of the utter bullshite that the Liberal Thought Police™ foist on us. Oh, and while we’re at it, let’s make “one payer system” and “social justice” hate speech as well.

Accusations of racism in a Lee’s Summit high school have lead to suspensions, but now the parents say their kids were unfairly punished.

And how…

(By the way, it’s “have led“, you borderline illiterate, overpaid journaljizzmer asshat. We thought that knowing the English language was a requirement for people making a living writing in it, but obviously we were overly optimistic in our assessments. Again.)

Travis Grigsby loves playing drums, but he and his friend Alex Coday weren’t able to play for two weeks after they were suspended. It started after the band’s performance at a football game. Some kids on the drum line said they were talking about the best knots to use to tie up the drum equipment.

“Someone asked if anybody knew how to tie a noose and Travis did admit he knew how to tie a noose,” Kim Grigsby said.

Travis’ mom said her son is almost an Eagle Scout, he knew how to tie it, but told his friends he wouldn’t because you could get in trouble for that. Later, a black student on the drum line told the teacher he was offended.

Oh NOES. He said “noose” in the presence of a Snotty Brat of Color™!!!

Obviously, there can be only one “socially just” response to that kind of “hate speech:”

“Travis was accused of using a racial slur for saying the word ‘noose.’ Then he was suspended for 10 days,” Kim said.

She said the school district accused the boys of having a racially charged conversation about nooses, but Travis and Alex insist that’s not what happened.

“I don’t feel they let Alex or Travis tell their side of the story,” Kim said.

His Imperial Majesty doesn’t think, as a matter of fact we’ll go as far as to say that we’re 99.9999% certain that they didn’t get to say anything in their own defense. After all, somebody with Absolute Moral Majority™ (because somebody he’d never known had gotten abused by people that the white kids had never known) had spoken, so there is no need for the jury to retire. OFF WITH THEIR HEADS!

Not to put too fine a point on it, but if anybody is wondering just why some people sometimes feel moved to utter actual racially biased nonsense directed at random passers-by based on whatever ethnic group they happen to be associated with, here’s your reason.

It’s called “pushback.” Look it up. Unless it has been outlawed and airbrushed out of the dictionaries already, of course.

Assclowns.

46 Responses to “Can We Make Saying “Progressive” a Hate Crime as Well?”
  1. Mike M Comment by Mike M

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    WTF? The article begins with this:

    There’s apparently been some racial tension in the band at Lee’s Summit West, specifically on the drum line. Students were talked to a couple weeks ago because both the black and white kids were using the “n word” and the band director told them to stop.

    And finishes with this:

    The school district said it can’t comment because of privacy issues, but said no one is aware of any racial tensions at the school. The administrators said they did investigate it thoroughly.

    The incident was investigated thoroughly, but nobody is sure if there are racial tensions or not - except the reporter, that is.

  2. B.C., Imperial Torturer™ Comment by B.C., Imperial Torturer™

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    The Lee’s Summit skool sistum better start blocking access to Stickymedia™ from all of their skool kumpewterz.

    Asshats.

    Oh Noes!!! We All Gonna Die!!!

  3. ACLPoo Comment by ACLPoo

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    It’s as though some blacks actually NEED some kind of boogieman to blame for their dull lives, whether the boogieman is there or not.
    Must our already politically correct children be constantly dragged, prodded, coerced into making apologies for slavery? Didn’t our generation already apologize, change the way we speak, change the way we act, change the direction of so many tax dollars….so they don’t have to?
    Today’s youth don’t owe the black community a thing. How many times are the thin-skinned going to cry wolf before it’s not even possible to teach anyone to give a shit? We’re trying, people, but Rev Jackson and Al Not-Too-Sharpton keep trying to make us hate black people.

  4. Blackiswhite, Imperial Agent Provocateur Comment by Blackiswhite, Imperial Agent Provocateur

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    How’s the ‘victim’ gonna feel when I call him a brown-skinned opportunist race pimp?

  5. LC HJ Caveman82952 Comment by LC HJ Caveman82952

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    That’s when you need to show up at school with your Aryan Brotherhood tee shirt…… This punk will keep pulling this shit until some real racist haters deal with him

  6. LC Gunsniper Comment by LC Gunsniper

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    A friend of mine at work hit it spot on.

    White folks are probably the most emasculated group of people in America today. As soon as someone accuses a white person of being “racist” or “intolerant” they can’t get to their knees and prostrate themselves fast enough. The smart solution is to just say to the accuser “Yeah so?” and then keep on going.
    Way too many folks let the fear of being labeled run their trains of thought. Who really gives a shit if some race-baiting weakling call you racist? Just consider the source.

  7. Radical Redneck Comment by Radical Redneck

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    Hey ACLP, we had the Grey Cup fed in here (at work) tonight.

    Pretty good game - the cornfields of Saskatchewan will be a’rockin’ tonight (as long as the children (of the corn) don’t get all uppity)!

  8. LC Cheapshot911, Dept. of Redneck Tech Comment by LC Cheapshot911, Dept. of Redneck Tech

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    Most movies I ever saw had cowboys swingin’ on em’,,
    That’s a well known anti-cowboy icon.

    (throws hat hard on floor)

    Ah’m so thoroughly offended, on b’half of my cattle herdin’ kin..

  9. LC SkyeChild G.L.O.R. Comment by LC SkyeChild G.L.O.R.

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    Gunsniper,

    White folks are probably the most emasculated group of people in America today. As soon as someone accuses a white person of being “racist” or “intolerant” they can’t get to their knees and prostrate themselves fast enough.

    Luckily for me, I was absolved of my white guilt years ago by Ken “The Black Avenger” Hamblin.

  10. LC 0311 crunchie I.M.H. Comment by LC 0311 crunchie I.M.H.

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    The most racist thing I can think of is to say that a person is so weak and helpless that seeing a noose, or hearing a certain word, causes irreparable harm.

    I’ve been called a lot of really nasty shit in my day. Last time I checked I was still in one piece. We have accepted as a society that races are equal. That all are human beings. Period. But now I am supposed to believe that one class of citizens is so inferior that a mere word or symbol destroys them.

    Well guess what. NIGGER! I said it. A white man said that which shall not be spoken by white men. Anybody writhing in agony on the floor? No? Good, guess ya all are little stronger than the race baiting assholes give ya credit for.

    Wanna call me a racist, go for it. At least I knew you were strong enough to hear a word and not go crying to mommy.

  11. ACLPoo Comment by ACLPoo

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    The last thing you should ever do is apologize. The second Sharpton sees remorse, he goes for the jugular. He is such a vindictive, power-drunk asshole, there is never, EVER a reason for anyone to speak with him. He does the black community such a terrible disservice. He is really, really stupid. While I think Michael Richards deserved whatever he got for the ignorant shit he spewed, his was an exception.
    I don’t tend to use the “N-Word”. I’ve used it whilst yelling at the TV a few times some years ago, but I’ve never called a black person “nigger” in person. Trying to censor a word is the stupidest thing you can do if you don’t want to hear it anymore, but way I see it, it’s just one less word in my vocabulary, and I don’t think it’s too much to ask. No big deal. But, you try to box me in, and I’m going to push back. Don’t punish me for trying to be sensitive to your history.
    Just because some hillbillies put a couple of nooses on a tree as a tasteless gesture, doesn’t mean there’s some kind of humongous undercurrent of racism lurking beneath the surface of every white person.
    I dated a black girl for 3 years (mulato, raised by white parents), and the only people who ever raised the issue where blacks. I would counter sometime with “I’m not black, I’m Irish”. Anyone who knows much about Irish history in America/Canada would see the historical reference, the others, it just shut them up. Instantly the booze jokes would come out, I rolled with the jokes and tried to lead a good example. Call me a “mick” in fun, I’ll laugh. Call me a mick in anger, I’m gonna pick my favorite word describing your race right back at ya, and maybe more.
    I like the fact I can ask a black guy what time it is, and they’ll reply in English. So what if 80% of violent crime in my city (Toronto) is by people of color, who represent only 14% of the population? So what if 75% of that 80% is Jamaican? I’ll stay out of your neighborhoods at night, never say the N word in your presence, and treat you like I would my own. Ask me to apologize for that, don’t expect an answer.

  12. ACLPoo Comment by ACLPoo

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    “I’m not black, I’m Irish”.

    Oops, my line is actually, “I’m not WHITE, I’m Irish”. No trademark, use it at will. It actually works. Black folks kind of search their memories to movies they might have seen, etc…, but I think it kind of hits home eventually. A race of people treated like shit when they got here, who lived in poverty, experienced racism on a grand scale, and despite having the advantage of being white (which I know is an advantage for any immigrant), “we” (not me, get it folks?) pulled ourselves up from close to nothing into somewhat of a respected race of people here in America. Take away the booze and the humongous families, maybe, but it’s not like the Irish are the scourge of society.
    Not that I would go thru Hells Kitchen waving a Union Jack on March 17th, but at least that beats a noose….

  13. ACLPoo Comment by ACLPoo

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    Hey ACLP, we had the Grey Cup fed in here (at work) tonight.

    Pretty good game - the cornfields of Saskatchewan will be a’rockin’ tonight (as long as the children (of the corn) don’t get all uppity)!

    Cool, it’s kind of a big deal here. I wish I were a fan, it would provide a great source of conversation. I used to play hockey until I was 16, I kept getting into fights, didn’t like how they would try to hold a shirt over your head and hit you (I thought it was cowardly), so I joined boxing. Now I’m the only total boxing fanatic in Toronto. I don’t care much for heavyweight, but the rest I’m really into. I used to train at the Cabbagetown Boxing club in the late 80’s/ early 90’s. You may have heard of one of the guys from there, Shawn O’Sullivan?

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    As much as I hate racists, noose is not a racist word, it is a knot. Are we to not say the names of knots know? That to me just seems so weak and pathetic. To al sharpton-find a real job.

  15. Unregistered Pingback by Uhh, wow

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    […] to one school district, saying “noose” around an African-American is now racist. […]

  16. Unregistered Comment by CrazyFool

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    Why does this remind me of one of the old ‘Planet of the apes’ movie where a man is not supposed to ever, ever, ever, say ‘No’ to an ape no matter what?

  17. LC Hardclimber54 Comment by LC Hardclimber54

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    And another fine example of political correctness, mixed in with a generous amount of guilt, resentment and whatever else one group can thrown in against another group for political gain. The school direction seemed some eager to surrender and lay down at a mere WORD as well!?! It is an indication of how far we, as a society, have been shackling ourselves to the guilt philosophies of a few!?!? And they will ride this for all it is worth until some real pusback occurs.

    Now, stop squealing in feigned anguish everytime a word or a picture is shown that MIGHT set off your pre-set guilt trip system and get a f.cking life. If your race’s PAST history is to be constantly used as a weapon in order to excuse your personal shortcomings so that white folks can be blamed, you are doing yourselves a great disservice. Crime rates, whether people like them or not, are REAL, and the percentage of non-whites committing crimes is way out of proportion in any population. Using MY color as an excuse for criminal behaviour does not wash any longer. Reverse racism occurs in such cases. Seems to go like this every time: I’m black, I have every excuse because (insert preferred historial references here), never mind I left school early, don’t have proper parenting, is not making any effort to move ahead, why, when I have guilt-conditionned and weak-kneed PC wussies doing my bidding a the mere whisper of “racism”. Hypocritical perspective, that’s what this is…

    Comprenez-vous..? I can be much, much more explicit if you prefer…

  18. AyUaxe Comment by AyUaxe

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    Push-back, indeed! My great-grandparents were dirt farmers and share-croppers. Their kids were headed barefoot down the same unpaved road, hand picking cotton (try it–it’s torture) and working peanut patches when the oil boom hit south Arkansas and north Louisiana. They scrabbled up the slippery slopes of spewing derricks to build a better life for their descendants (Thanks, Granddads and Grandmothers). So when some AA “race pimp” starts yammering about his “people’s” disadvantaged past, it makes me really sick and pissed off. All the advancement, affirmative action, and forced integration that has taken place has essentially been a giant gift to AAs taken mostly at the expense of poor and working class whites. Where the gift has been accepted graciously and put to good use, the excellent results are thanks enough. Where some continue to beg, bait, pimp and preen about their race, no thanks would be enough. It sets the cause of racial equality back, not just decades, but centuries. I’m glad to see my son with his AA friends yuckin’ it up, swapping epithets, racial and otherwise, back and forth with no concern or offense, because they’re classmates, friends, equals. We don’t apologize for who we are or where we came from and neither should our AA friends and neighbors. Anyone who uses their race to take advantage of another is the worst kind of racist–here that Sharpton and all your ilk?!

  19. MuscleDaddy Comment by MuscleDaddy

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    Frankly, I’m surprised at the half-measures.

    Honestly - if they were serious about creating a Tolerance-Loving-Utopia-of-Diversity™, they should have taken the next obvious steps of sending that misguided lad to a re-education camp sensitivity seminar, to have the knowledge of how to tie a noose forcibly removed er, “encouraged and empowered” out of his head.

    And really - where are the lawsuits against the Source of Instutional Racism BoyScouts, for having taught him how to create such a thing in the first place!

    Come on, people! Dropping the ball, here!

    -MuscleDaddy

  20. LC Hardclimber54 Comment by LC Hardclimber54

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    MuscleDaddy

    And really - where are the lawsuits against the Source of Instutional Racism BoyScouts, for having taught him how to create such a thing in the first place!

    Don’t go and give the leftists fucks any ideas now, they’re bad enough as it is!!!

    Actually, now that you mention it… Yeah, how come the BoyScouts were not relentlessly sued and pursued thru the court system over showing how to, the horror, the horror!, tie knots and encourage comradship!?! Can’t have anything of the sort now, can we. Much better to encourage 11 years old into getting abortions without parents’ consent or knowledge, turn citizens into walking bullseyes and chastised anyone daring to use a proscribed word!

    Now, should I go out and call a black person a “nigger that ought to be strung up by the neck”, I am the one with a serious need to readjust because that would be raw, disgusting racism at its most vile.

    What next. Don’t wear neckties because it might be seen as a symbol!?

    Fuckheads.

  21. Unregistered Comment by Candy

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    The last thing you should ever do is apologize

    This is so true, and sorry, but that’s exactly what’s expected of anyone when called a racist. Had an interesting visit with one of my high-schooler’s teachers last week, to discuss why she kept calling my son a slacker and ignorant, because he challenged her extremely biased views in class. The last straw was when she told him to shut up or she’d send him for a psych consult. During that very non-productive conversation, after she called me a racist because I wouldn’t reprimand him for suggesting that people we fight wars with ARE our enemies, I stood up, walked out, and had him removed from her class. The look of shock on her face when I refused to kowtow to her still makes me laugh!

    In my none too humble opinion, the experiences our kids are suffering through right now are creating more divisiveness, not easing any sort of relations. I think that the liberal idiots will only be satisfied when we all live in separatist enclaves, completely subjugated to the almighty state. Only, I won’t submit to that, and I think the pushback is only going to get worse.

  22. Unregistered Comment by theshaman

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    It certainly appears as though the school’s reaction is, at best, wildly overzealous. So egregious is it, in fact, that I can’t help but suspect there’s more to this story than one can reasonably discern from the article. Note also that the author’s only source is the boy’s mother, who is certainly going to be biased in his favour. The following scenario is certainly not beyond the realm of possibility:

    Teacher: Say, Travis, you’re good with knots. Can you tie a noose?
    Travis: What, a nigger neck tie? Sure I….oh, shit. I didn’t know that black kid was in the room.

    And the ‘No smoke without fire’ principle is generally a solid one. I say we should withhold judgement until we have a better idea about what actually went down.

  23. The Major Comment by The Major

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    I’m sorry, but has there been any white people hung by a noose? I seem to recall seeing several pictures of very dead white folk hanging by a… well, you know… the “N” word around their necks. What about the “L” word - “lynch.” Is that a racist word? More than a few crackers have suffered through a good lynchin’ for the word to be used exclusively for black folk. What about the “B” word (burn) or the “F” word (fire)? The “G” word (Gun)? I mean, if you were looking to be offended or made to feel as if you might piss your pants at the slightest provocation, you could claim that all kinds of seemingly innocuous nouns and verbs are, in reality, evil, dark people-loathing, hate words! **shiver**

    Oh shit! I’ve done it now! I’ve posted a graphic that instructs how to tie a Hangman’s Noose (or “knot”). Hoo boy! In one fell swoop, I’ve managed to scare and/or offend millions! So… WATCH OUT Racialchondriacs™! There are racists in every closet, under every bed, and **gasp** in every high school drum line, patiently waiting to hang the nearest dark person! :em41:

    Bloody looney bin we’re living in…

  24. LC Hardclimber54 Comment by LC Hardclimber54

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    The Major

    Oh shit! I’ve done it now!

    Oh yes you did! :em01: and some “offended minority” asking for your head in 5,4,3,2…

    Wait, you also said the “G” word! That’s it, you are to be burned at the stake!

    Agreed Sir, sad world we live in…

    OT - I’m still waiting for that F-22 to land at the Moncton Airport with a note “special delivery to Hardclimber, from the U.S. Air Force with love, return when thru”…

  25. The Major Comment by The Major

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    Hardclimber - The Raptor is on backorder. Christmas rush and all. Seems every “driver” wants one under the tree this year.

  26. LC Hardclimber54 Comment by LC Hardclimber54

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    The Major

    Roger that… Of course you know the picture is a teaser, don’t ya!?!

    I can just dream of my wife taking me to the airport where a shiny new Raptor is sitting on the tarmac with a big red bow and a sign that says “Merry Christmas, instruction manuals inside, ammunition and batteries included”…

    “And a HeHeHe and a HoHoHo it’s off to blow a mosque we go…”

    I’m bad…

  27. The Major Comment by The Major

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    Another teaser…

    Bet during this hard right, the driver’s ass felt like it weighed as much as Hillary Clinton’s.

  28. Lady Heather Comment by Lady Heather

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    theshaman

    Seems my first impression of you (as smug) was very wrong. For that, I apologize, and dare I say “welcome!” to the Rott.

    :em03:

  29. LC Hardclimber54 Comment by LC Hardclimber54

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    The Major

    Ah, magnificent! A large Prandtl Glauert singularity formed during the manoeuver! Judging by the size and location of the singularity, and not knowing the exact rate of knots on that turn (I’m guessing 250-275 KIAS) he’s pulling about 2 Gs, way below Hillarious’ ass actual weight…

    Any F-22 drivers on this here blog? I’d like to know if my estimate is at least in the ball park…

    Thank you! I really appreciate this!

  30. LC Hardclimber54 Comment by LC Hardclimber54

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    The Major

    My indicated speeds on my #28 should read 650 - 675 KIAS, don’t ask me where I had my head, probably somewhere dark and stinky (and a killer on the back muscles…). And depending on how tight that turn became, the g’s can increase in the 4 to 5 range…

    Should have caught that before I pressed the “submit comment” …

  31. LC SkyeChild G.L.O.R. Comment by LC SkyeChild G.L.O.R.

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    Hardclimber,

    I sure hope you bought some “ho” offsets for that ho, ho, ho.

  32. LC Hardclimber54 Comment by LC Hardclimber54

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    LC SkyeChild G.L.O.R

    I sure hope you bought some “ho” offsets for that ho, ho, ho.

    The last time I bought a “ho” cost me $150 for an hour, and there was no offsets offered… :em01:

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  34. Yochanon Comment by Yochanon

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    I’m a fucking racist bastard! If you’re white and act a fool around me or I know you’re a thief or whatever, you’re ‘trash’ or whatever else I can come up with to degrade your existance. If you’re black, and you’re an asshole or thief or whatever, you’re a ‘nigger’ and anything else I can come up with to degrade your existance. The list goes on for most races. Thing is, if you’re an honest, hard-working, decent person, I couldn’t give a shit what color you are…you have my respect and I’ll show it in words and actions.

    I know black folk who *HATE* “niggers”, which is what they call the scumbag blacks.

    ———
    “There is no room in this country for hyphenated Americanism. When I refer to hyphenated Americans, I do not refer to naturalized Americans. Some of the very best Americans I have ever known were naturalized Americans, Americans born abroad. But a hyphenated American is not an American at all.”

    Theodore Roosevelt

  35. psychochick, LC Comment by psychochick, LC

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    The Major
    Ironically, the hangman’s noose is not the best one for hanging a human; I forget which one is. A lot of people screw up the rope and slowly strangle to death–really not a good way to go, FYI

    I do agree that it’s extreme to have a problem with the use of the word, unless it is directed at you.

    There have definitely been white people lynched in the US, and yes the term “lynched” was used. but clearly more blacks suffered the fate, strangely enough frequently ones who were successful. And there was that lovely substitution of burning in some cases, with people keeping parts of the body as souvenirs. It goes way back in this country–the Pilgrims hung Quakers (not that many, fortunately).

  36. LC SkyeChild G.L.O.R. Comment by LC SkyeChild G.L.O.R.

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    PC opined:

    but clearly more blacks suffered the fate,

    Can you give stats to back this up? If I recall my history correctly (of course, a lot of it came from Westerns :em02: ), people were hanged for killing someone, cattle rustling, treason, sedition, all sorts of things.

    Only recently (well, since the 50’s and 60’s, I suppose) has hanging been preempted by the black community as their own.

  37. Unregistered Comment by theshaman

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    L.C. SkyeChild wrote:

    Can you give stats to back this up? If I recall my history correctly (of course, a lot of it came from Westerns :em02: ), people were hanged for killing someone, cattle rustling, treason, sedition, all sorts of things.

    This site tabulates lynchings by State and race between 1882 & 1968. A summary on this page of the same site states that “From 1882-1968, 4,743 lynchings occurred in the United States. Of these people that were lynched 3,446 were black. The blacks lynched accounted for 72.7% of the people lynched. These numbers seem large, but it is known that not all of the lynchings were ever recorded. Out of the 4,743 people lynched only 1,297 white people were lynched. That is only 27.3%. Many of the whites lynched were lynched for helping the black or being anti lynching and even for domestic crimes.” The numbers were tabulated by the Tuskegee Institute.

    Lady Heather, thanks. I appreciate it. :em03: back atcha :-)

  38. LC SkyeChild G.L.O.R. Comment by LC SkyeChild G.L.O.R.

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    Thanks, theshaman, but is it possible to find a government site? Like the GAO? Sorry, but I don’t fully trust any instutition that is based upon race (like the Tuskegee Institute). I’d also like to see how many were hanged in the “old west,” and the Revolutionary and Civil War, in the Salem witch trials, etc.

    As I said, only recently have the blacks preempted hangings for their own. It’s quite possible (and probable) that more blacks were hanged than any other race. But to say one group has suffered more than any other…I’m a bit of a skeptic.

  39. L.C. Rowane Comment by L.C. Rowane

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    I guess I’m the only REAL racist here, I’ll call a low-down dirty person a nigger what ever color the fool is.

    I have used the dreaded “N-WORD” directly to a black person’s face and dared him to “monky out” as they called it. I have also called white people the same thing.

    I use the word in accord with the definition found in an OED from the early sixties: a dirty or shiftless person.

  40. Unregistered Comment by JonB

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    Ironically, the hangman’s noose is not the best one for hanging a human; I forget which one is. A lot of people screw up the rope and slowly strangle to death–really not a good way to go, FYI

    I see no problem with a deserving individual ending like that. More enjoyable to watch them twitch and squirm. It’s a lot better than a lot of assholes gave their victims (the emerging info in the “Baby Grace” news story comes to mind)

  41. Emperor Misha I Comment by Emperor Misha I

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    Ironically, the hangman’s noose is not the best one for hanging a human; I forget which one is. A lot of people screw up the rope and slowly strangle to death–really not a good way to go, FYI

    That’s because so many people fuck it up, it’s not the noose’s fault.

    It’s quite simple, really:

    1) Knot at back of neck — Strangle to death slowly.

    2) Knot on side of neck — Neck snaps neatly upon drop.

    Of course, that’s assuming that the clowns are aware of the basic fact that clean, quick hangings require a significant drop to begin with. If they don’t know THAT, then they shouldn’t be fooling around with nooses in the first place, since they’re too fucking dumb to use one.

  42. Bill H, Resident Car Guy Comment by Bill H, Resident Car Guy

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    “You shifty Niggah! They said you was hung!!”
    “And they was right.”

    There- now that I have the obligatory Blazing Saddles reference out of the way-
    I came across this site, which has a rather detailed description of how a correct, un-botched hanging is done. Seems the Brits had it down to quite the science.

  43. Unregistered Comment by theshaman

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    Hey Skyechild, I’ve done a bit of googling but haven’t found any statistics from any Government sources yet. My google-fu leaves something to be desired (always takes me ages to find anything) so maybe I’m just not using the right search terms. I’ll check again later ‘cos it’ll be interesting to know. Just didn’t want you to think I was blowing off your request. Laters.

  44. LC SkyeChild G.L.O.R. Comment by LC SkyeChild G.L.O.R.

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    theshaman,

    I appreciate the effort. I’m not saying that PC is wrong, or that your facts are inaccurate, and it’s possible that more blacks have been hanged than any other race (certainly they have been hanged just for being black).

    I just don’t like when one group preempts a cause as their own, just to make a point.

  45. ACLPoo Comment by ACLPoo

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    During that very non-productive conversation, after she called me a racist because I wouldn’t reprimand him for suggesting that people we fight wars with ARE our enemies, I stood up, walked out, and had him removed from her class. The look of shock on her face when I refused to kowtow to her still makes me laugh!

    Am I the only one who thinks that indoctrination like this at the university level is bad enough, but in grade/middle/high schools? It should be grounds for termination, and IMMEDIATE termination. And they wonder why we only look up to maybe 2 or 3 of our dozens of teachers….
    I’ve had teachers feed the “US Evil - Canada Not” to so many assholes in school and they believed it. It’s still somewhat fashionable to “not like Americans” here in this shithole of a country…despite the fact that we are Americans under a different flag. We’re like a cold Puerto Rico with health care. People at my work are well aware of my nasty reactions to any ‘anti-Americanism’ in my presence.
    Don’t like the US? I don’t like self-righteous Canadians who think they’re somehow better. If it weren’t for the US being our military defenders, as superb as our small military is, we’d be fucked in the event of all-out war. If it weren’t for “not being American”, Canadians wouldn’t have any identity at all. Goddamned sanctimonious socialists. Get me out of here. I vow to never have a hyphen anywhere near my national identity. (well, maybe “Republican-American”).

  46. LC Hardclimber54 Comment by LC Hardclimber54

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    ACLPoo

    If it weren’t for “not being American”, Canadians wouldn’t have any identity at all. Goddamned sanctimonious socialists. Get me out of here.

    I’m with you as far as Canadian not having an identity proper, we are just a copy of our southern neighbours, whether we like to admit it or not. We drive their cars, wear their clothes, listen to their music, share the same customs and outlooks in terms of everyday life, and ask any Canadian to describe the “Canadian Identity” and they’ll invariably answer “we’re not Americans”… Meaning, we don’t have an actual national identity except for our flag…

    As far as calling it a shithole, well, I don’t see it that way but I am respecting your view and choice my still-Canadian friend. And yes, way too many blind, indoctrinated hippie-wannabe socialists in this here country. University students and their “professors” come firstly to mind. They read Marx, Engels, the life and times of Che Guevara, the history of communism, and see this as the basis for their “political views”, which is, for the most part, American bashing in a PC cloak of equalitarian nonsense. They do NOT have ANYTHING to offer except more socialism and mindless rhetoric. They convinced themselves that, because they read books on this or that subject, that suddently they are empowered and informed enough to dictate to the masses. They can come and try this with me, I’m such a pleasant disserter… and I have a wicked right hook. But that being said, a good debate will always get me going, you know how passionate I can be on certain subjects… Like you, it hurts me to see my beloved country going to shit in a litter box carried by wussies and whiners who are so eager to hand it to the most vocal minorities for the sake of PC.

    I have a lot of respect for our American ally, and while I might not completely agree with everything they do, it is much better to have them as neighbours than some Euro-winnie pussyfied, PC shackled, socialist country.

    I wish you well my friend.