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Hat Tip to LC Skyechild for a great idea.

Open Threads are always a good thing. The pack, hardly at a loss for words, needs a regular Open Thread to get those gripes, snarks, bitches, complaints, cheap-shots at Teh Management™ and especially for those of faith that may have prayer requests or just good thoughts to share.

With that said, I’ll try to remember to put a regular Sunday “Open Thread” up.

No complaints if I forget, just give me a nudge or a boot, but keep in mind I do have the key to the Imperial Flying Monkey’s Cage and they don’t like missions in cold weather. Besides my driver’s license no longer lists my birth year, just “Pleistocene”.

Here ya’ go-

JB

106 Responses to “Open Thread”
  1. Darth Sheba aka Sithette Comment by Darth Sheba aka Sithette

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    Kinda empty here.

    Everybody watching the ‘Boys/Eagles game? :em93:

  2. The Major Comment by The Major

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    I’m here, but only because I forgot the Cowboys were playing!

    Better go…

  3. Unregistered Comment by Azygos

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    I’m doing both, phbbtt…

  4. Unregistered Comment by LC Elchonon, Imperial Chief of Civil Disobedience

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    hmmm lets see.. I need to be working! I have a headache…

  5. jaybear Comment by jaybear

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    Everybody watching the ‘Boys/Eagles game?

    It’s either that or going to Fox and watching the “NFL”…the National Favreball League. I’ll credit Favre with his Hall of Fame career and the records he’s setting, but do I have to hear nothing but Favre, Favre, Favre everytime the Packers…or ANY other team is on? After, all….there are ten other guys on his team when he’s out there……and what?, some 20 or so other teams???

    besides…..there was another Packer quarterback who makes Favre look like a poser

    take your shots LC Football fans, I have my protective gear on:

    retropacker

  6. Unregistered Comment by Azygos

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    Jaybear,

    It’s not as bad as trying to watch MLB and hearing Barry Bonds name every other word.

  7. Unregistered Comment by Azygos

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    http://www.pompomsnotbombbombs.org/meet.htm Why are so many lefties so damn butt ugly?

  8. Balderdash Comment by Balderdash

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    Watched my Browns play the Bills on a wind whipped muddy field in white-out conditions. This is the way the game was meant to be played, not indoors on a sissy field that looks like a big pool table.

  9. LC SkyeChild G.L.O.R. Comment by LC SkyeChild G.L.O.R.

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    Many thanks to JB for implementing my good idea. I suggested it partly out of selfishness, however, cause I have a prayer request to pass on.

    I am going in tomorrow to have a lesion on my back evaluated. One doc thinks it’s a squamous cell carcinoma. They aren’t usually serious, and they don’t usually spread, but just the word cancer is enough to freak me out. I will be a wreck until all of this gets sorted. So, any prayers, thoughts, good wishes, etc. would be appreciated.

    Thanks.

  10. hilljohnny Comment by hilljohnny

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    SkyeChilde may God bless you and keep you safe in His hands. i hope whatever it is, is quickly and easily resolved. i will pray for you tonight.

  11. LC&IB Vulcanrider Comment by LC&IB Vulcanrider

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    Prayers taken care of, and we’ll be expecting a full update as soon as you know something…
    :em69:

  12. LC SkyeChild G.L.O.R. Comment by LC SkyeChild G.L.O.R.

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    Thanks. I tend to overreact with medical stuff, sometimes, but God knows best what to do about it. 8-)

  13. Unregistered Comment by rstephens

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    I’m not much of a Basketball fan so I am not watching any of the games today.

  14. Unregistered Comment by Azygos

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    Prayers sent.

    Squammous Cell CA is usually of little sonsequence. Almost unheard of that it would metastasize. We take them off in family practice clinic all the time.

  15. Unregistered Comment by Azygos

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    consequence

  16. hilljohnny Comment by hilljohnny

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    btw has anyone heard from of about DJ? is everything okay with him?

  17. Unregistered Comment by Azygos

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    Anyone else read MM’s post on Mitt? If you want guns banned, just vote for Mitt. RINO for sure

  18. Unregistered Comment by Azygos

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    Ok DJ,

    Whats the story with these twilight zone posts?

    Comment by curious

    There never was a palestinian homeland,

    Oh, I know that and you know that, but the Palestinians I was referring to believe this nonsense. They are so ignorant they do not even know their own history.

    When I asked a few questions of these people to illustrate that they don’t know their own history, questions like “when was palestine founded?”, “what was its capital city?”, “name the Presidents of Palestine”, I just got blank stares.

    Since these idiots believe that they have a Palestinian homeland and the only extant part of the old British territory of “Palestine” that Arab countries didn’t grab for themselves is Gaza and the West Bank, I say give the idiots the “right of return” they clamor for and ship them to Gaza.

    May 23rd, 2007 at 6:07 AM
    Using Mozilla Firefox 1.5.0.11 on Windows XP *

  19. LC & IB GuyS Comment by LC & IB GuyS

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    Not watching football today. Our poor excuse for a team, Da Bears, play tomorrow night. It’s a good thing I have to work … so I will be spared the horror of watching it. The 3rd string QB is starting … need I say more.

    Oh, and it appears The Breck Girl’s wife is afraid … really scared of Republicans!!!!
    Must be terrible when you see what real men can do … after all you are but a lesbian by proxy married to the Breck Girl and all. (Oh, darn … did I say that out loud???)

  20. LC HJ Caveman82952 Comment by LC HJ Caveman82952

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    A prayer for you SkyeChild……

  21. Unregistered Comment by irish19

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    Consider yourself prayed for SkyeChilde.
    Hey, GuyS, don’t forget that Orton was the guy who got them to the playoffs two years ago. I think he should have been given a shot long before this.

  22. LC & IB GuyS Comment by LC & IB GuyS

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    irish yes he was. I haven’t forgotten. But it is going to take more then a (potentially) good QB to get the Bears back on anything approaching the right track. They need a good offensive coordinator, a younger (and larger) offensive line, a new defensive coordenator, get rid of Grossman, get rid of Cedric Benson … and that’s just for starters.

    Oh, and because I am only working with five active brain cells… and should have done this on the last comment….will be thinking of you and hoping for the best of possible outcomes to all your evaluations Skychild

  23. jaybear Comment by jaybear

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    Skye, I know what that damned wait is like……my best to you and will make sure to say some words for you……

  24. LC 0311 crunchie I.M.H. Comment by LC 0311 crunchie I.M.H.

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    Skyechild, message inbound to Sky Six for ya. God bless.

    On a personal note, I want to thank all of you Rotties for being such a great family. I am proud and honored to call ya all my friends. I love ya all like my own family. (Yeah, theres a little Budweiser talking there, but so what. It don’t mean I don’t mean it). :em03:

    Also, Deej, if ya read this, let us know you’re still alive or some crap huh buddy? Throw us a bone here. You may be our favorite chew toy, but the emphasis is definitely on favorite.

  25. Radical Redneck Comment by Radical Redneck

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    Yawn to all the mentions of the NFL wannabes. The Super Bowl is much more settled than the Goreacle’s junk science! The boys wearing red, white and blue (great color scheme BTW) in New England will be hoisting the Lombardi high! With the Celtics and Bruins off to fine starts, can you say 4 championship year? Sure you can. :twisted: :em03:

    Good luck Skyechild (and DJ wherever you are)! You are both in my prayers!

    Another thing, surely you agree (especially Crunchie and BC) that a fine necklace certainly enhances a woman’s allure! :em93:

  26. jaybear Comment by jaybear

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    RR,

    that ain’t a necklace…..it’s a mucous ring
    :em38:

  27. L.C. Mope, Imperial Offsetter Comment by L.C. Mope, Imperial Offsetter

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    Thug-ster-

    “Pleistocene”

    Would that be pre-deluvial or post-deluvial?

  28. L.C. Mope, Imperial Offsetter Comment by L.C. Mope, Imperial Offsetter

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    LC SkyeChild G.L.O.R.

    I’ll have a word with “The Boss” for ya.

  29. LC SkyeChild G.L.O.R. Comment by LC SkyeChild G.L.O.R.

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    Thanks for all the prayers and good thoughts, gang. I appreciate it very much. I told Jackboot the other night that I read too much and pretty much scare myself witless over this stuff.

    I’ll post again after my appointment tomorrow. :em69:

  30. LC SkyeChild G.L.O.R. Comment by LC SkyeChild G.L.O.R.

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    Hm…something I just seemed to notice:

    No offense intended to the Rotties whose proclivities lean RIGHT and who live in those states, but the states which seem to be getting most of the really nasty weather seem to be BLUE STATES: Illinois, Wisconsin, Michigan, New York, and the New England states.

    Of course, some of the red states have had snow and ice, as well, but NOTHING like what they are getting out east that I’m aware of.

  31. LC Mrs. M-ITT™ Comment by LC Mrs. M-ITT™

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    Little late to the thread here…but will be keeping you in my thoughts tomorrow Skye. And a prayer has been sent. :em69:

  32. SoCalOilMan, LC Comment by SoCalOilMan, LC

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    Skyechild
    My thoughts and prayers will definitely include you tonight and tomorrow….extended to the time we hear that the tests come back benign.

    Of course this is on top of my normal daily prayers for the denizens of this site.

    You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy.

  33. hilljohnny Comment by hilljohnny

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    SkyeChilde i had always thought the red state/ blue state thing was done so no-one would make the obvious connection of commie red and true blue american. but maybe we could go with red-neck conservative and blue-balled liberal. makes an awful big assumption on the lib side though. how about red-blooded sons of liberty / blue-blood elitist snobs? :em02:

  34. hilljohnny Comment by hilljohnny

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    Crunchie

    I love ya all like my own family.

    aw ya big lug. are you sure that was a bud? i always heard ‘in wine there is truth, in beer only bull :em72::em93:

  35. LC Hardclimber54 Comment by LC Hardclimber54

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    i always heard ‘in wine there is truth, in beer only bull

    hilljohny, crunchie I’ll have a glass of beer then a glass of wine and I’ll let you know what came out… :em99:

    On second thought…

  36. LC JackBoot IC/A-OBR Comment by LC JackBoot IC/A-OBR

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    Mopester #27-

    Would that be pre-deluvial or post-deluvial?

    Carbon dating of the birth certificate was needed, and it’s confirmed pre-deluvial by a million or so years. It took some outstanding scientific research as it was written on a wollly-mammoth skin, poorly tanned as well.

    :em95:

  37. hilljohnny Comment by hilljohnny

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    Hardclimber when i consider the quality of his U.G. posts i might be willing to risk a sip of whatever it is he’s drinking. :em69:

  38. LC SkyeChild G.L.O.R. Comment by LC SkyeChild G.L.O.R.

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    Update: I had the dermatologist check out my lesion. He didn’t say definitively one way or the other (a wise move on his part). He biopsied it, however, and I should know the results in a couple of weeks.

    It was interesting, though…I sensed that he was leaning more toward some sort of allergic reaction to something.l I can live with that.

    I was wondering all along, cause my lesion didn’t look like any of the ones I looked at on the net. If anything, it more resembled a basal cell. We’ll find out shortly.

    Thank you all for the support. You have no idea how much it means to me. I don’t do myself any favors worrying about this stuff, and last night I was having a panic attack. It’s nice to know that there are people who “have my back.” :em93:

  39. LC Hardclimber54 Comment by LC Hardclimber54

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    hilljohnny

    when i consider the quality of his U.G. posts i might be willing to risk a sip of whatever it is he’s drinking.

    Euh, I thought it was crunchie senior that did the U.G…? In any case, I’d risk a sip myself only after I made sure it was NOT diluted rocket fuel, or worse, Tennesse moonshine! :em99:

    In his post, JackBoot talks about the Imperial Flying Monkeys… Reminds me of a story… I once had an instructor teaching us Instrument Flight Rules (military) who said “gentlemen, if your instruments are showing that you’re flying upside down, backwards in a spiral with a monkey dangling from the left wing… guess what? You ARE flying upside down, backwards in a spiral with a fucking monkey dangling from the left wing! Trust your instruments!!!

    Saved my butt a couple of times when flying thru snow and sleet hoping to find the base before the fuel situation went from ” oh damn” to “oh shit…”. (strong and consistant headwinds throughout the mission) Once I contacted Approach and sorted out my flight path after declaring a fuel emergency, I broke through the sleet and snow clouds just in time to see the runway all lit up, waiting for me. Checked speed and glideslope, runway in sight, wheels down, 10 degrees flaps, going, going, everything looked fine till about 60 feet from and above the runway, the engine flamed out (aircraft was a T-33) Great, and I was having SUCH a nice day… Fortunately, I had enough speed and altitude to effect a near perfect touchdown, with all of the necessary invectives towards my engine once I stopped rolling… Makes the day more “interesting” I say…

    LC SkyeChild G.L.O.R. I have every confidence everything will be alright. Promise to keep us posted, please! You have this Canadian’s wishes that all will be fine.

  40. hilljohnny Comment by hilljohnny

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    Hardclimber

    after I made sure it was NOT diluted rocket fuel, or worse, Tennesse moonshine!

    your right there Hc neither one can hold a candle (just not to close please) to Kentucky ’shine.

    Makes the day more “interesting” I say…

    i should think so Hc. did you gat your W.D.A. that day? :em93:

  41. LC Hardclimber54 Comment by LC Hardclimber54

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    hilljohnny

    did you gat your W.D.A. that day?

    Euh, could you translate that from Americanese to Canadianese please !?!?

  42. hilljohnny Comment by hilljohnny

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    Sorry Hc ‘ get your W.D.A.’ comes from early in the carrier program. it’s the Wet Diaper Award. it was frequently given after a pilots first carrier landing. i don’t know if they still do.

  43. LC Hardclimber54 Comment by LC Hardclimber54

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    hilljohnny

    Ah, thank you, now I know… We de-commissioned our last carrier back in ‘65 I think (we had 2 at war’s end). And, gratefully speaking, I never had to land on a carrier. Don’t know how your guys do it, especially at night!!! Probably where adult diapers came from… You know, I once asked a Navy pilot (F-14 driver) about it after an exercise. “Well, it is difficult only if you decide it is” “Oh, I see, and what did you decide” I asked. “It is difficult!” he said… :em99:

    Actually, after I finished swearing to myself after my “interesting” landing, it came to my mind that I came to about 1 minute from having to eject. Always an inconvenience, ejecting. Glad I never had to!

  44. Blackiswhite, Imperial Agent Provocateur Comment by Blackiswhite, Imperial Agent Provocateur

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    Skye,
    Having recently had my own cancer scare myself, I know what that is like. My prayers are on their way.

  45. hilljohnny Comment by hilljohnny

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    no comparision HC, but exciting none the less, i was flying my dads J-3, coming in to land. just as i crossed the fence at the end of the runway the wind did a 180 and i started falling, hit the throttle and ‘POOT’. the engine quit. i fell about 30 feet and bounced three or four times. when i crawled out to check the damage i was surprised to find everything was as it should be. the bungi cord suspension had absorbed all the shock. when i checked the motor the carb heat had slipped it linkage. worst butt-kicking i ever took.

  46. Useful Idiot Comment by Useful Idiot

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    HJ and HC: keep the aviation stuff coming. I’m just a pilot wannabe but I love reading that.

    Skye: Trust your Doc, if he says it’s allergic, then it’s allergic. Quit freaking yourself out by looking at lesions on the internet. If you still want to worry then look at Matthew 6:25 or Luke 12:22.

    Jaybear: Favre and Starr? Both Southern. jus sayin

  47. LC HJ Caveman82952 Comment by LC HJ Caveman82952

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    SkyeChild, I’ve had basal cell carcinomas removed on three different occasions. Aside from keeping an eye on me the doc says no problems. But I did get royally bitched out by his nurse, chewed my ass good, you see it seems after having eight stitches put in my shoulder I somehow felt it incumbent and natural to change the oil in my truck. Yeah, crawling around and such, opening up the wound. Guys are like that, then the wife giving mr the cat ate the canary grin all the way home.

  48. LC & IB GuyS Comment by LC & IB GuyS

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    As long as we is swapping airdale stories….

    When I was stationed at Kevlavic-By-The-Sea, (otherwise known as Iceland) we flew converted DC-3s to all the outlying Air Force sites. You needed an old prop job as the runways were all mud,stone, gravel, and ice. The Navy didn’t have anything else to go in there at the time. (Now I think they us C-130’s) …

    Anyhow, we had a special flight one day. It was a sightseeing tour of the Island and such (one of the prizes given out for charity … I believe it was the Combined Federal Campaign). The weather wasn’t bad, off we flew heading towards one of the active volcano’s (at that time) on the southern coast. About 30 min into the flight we got a *chip light* on one of the engines. This indicates you have metal or metallic substance(s) in your hydrolic fluid and usually is not a good thing (the engine is breaking down internally). The oil pressure and temp were still within limits. But because we had pax onboard, and were not on a major mission, we turned around and headed for home. We also feathered the engine. Not a real big deal as far as pucker factor…and all people on board were a bit excited but not too concerned. Then engine #2 decided to get into the act. Its chip light came on. NOW we had a problem. As the oil pressure was starting to fall and the engine temp was going up (she was going to seize up in short order if not secured). The problem was we were flat out of other healthy engines. So #1 was re-stated, #2 was feathered, and still about 15 minutes out we declared an emergency. Got straight in to the field/no waiting that day. And the rest of the flight/landing were uneventful. After we got the bird back in the barn, we pulled the strainers for both engines. The one we had re-started did have contamination and ultimately needed a jug replaced. The other engine’s strainer had ribbons of metal on/in it (kinda like that long snot..). The whole engine was replaced. But all in all the Goonies were a great bird to work and fly on. Wish they were still in use today. Sorry for the length … but you get old airdale types talking … and we tend to get long winded.

  49. hilljohnny Comment by hilljohnny

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    SkyeChilde great news! allergies can be weird sometimes. hang in there. :em69:

  50. hilljohnny Comment by hilljohnny

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    LC & IB GuyS thats what i call a REAL cardio workout. did you ever find out why the engines crapped out on you?

  51. WayneB Comment by WayneB

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    I’m sure a lot of Rotties here will appreciate this little bit of info:

    There are still areas where the war on Christianity have not penetrated. We went to the dedication of my younger son’s new Middle School tonight. They combined it with their Christmas show (Band and Choir). After the Star Spangled Banner and My Old Kentucky Home, the Band and Choir did God Bless America, followed by a prayer for the new school. And I tend to believe that there won’t be any lawsuits over it.

    ‘Course, y’all know that us hicks in Caintuckee ain’t caught up ta the rest o’ tha world, yet. :em93:

  52. LC Mrs. M-ITT™ Comment by LC Mrs. M-ITT™

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    Sorry for the length … but you get old airdale types talking … and we tend to get long winded.

    Very true Guy. Every time I hear M utter the words “…..there I was…..mach 2, inverted, with my hair on fire….. out of altitude, ammo and ideas…….” I know it’s time to go find the Häagen-Dazs. :em98:

  53. hilljohnny Comment by hilljohnny

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    Mrs M the proper opener is ‘ no shit there i was’ this is the signal to shut down the critical circuits, grab the popcorn and enjoy the show. occasional snorts of restrained laughter are permitted but cries of b’squat and other derisive remarks are reserved for close friends and family. :em93:

  54. LC Hardclimber54 Comment by LC Hardclimber54

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    hilljohnny

    The Piper is a solid bird, that’s the reason why you stayed in one piece! The butt-kicking didn’t come from bouncing on the landing strip, did it… :em99:

    My own worst butt-kicking happened after a low-level attack exercise (flying CF-5) over a wooded area. Some old tank hulks and trucks were dispersed and we were to attack this “ennemy position” with 500 pounders (dummies) and then a quick strafing run to “finish off” the attack. I was second aircraft in the attack run. Drop my ordnance and scored a hit on a couple of trucks near a line of trees. Well, all nice and well, but I had gone down to tree level to get a good line of sight for the strafing run. Turned out that the end of the clearing was sloping upwards and “de facto” put me below tree top level. By the time I finished by strafing run, I saw the fast approaching trees obviously higher than I was (going 250 knots, you cover a lot of ground quickly…). Swore, pull at the stick and as soon as the nose came up firewalled the throtlle.
    I heard a little ripping sound, felt a little jar and the aircraft skewed lightly to the right. Once I regained altitude and joined the rest of the squadron for the return trip one of my colleage asked “what’s that on your right wind hardpoint?”. I looked and lo and behold, branches we jutting out, firmly embedded in the weapons’ hardpoint. Upon returning to base, spruce and maple branches were found stuck in the hardpoint, and even tore some of the wing’s skin back about 8 inches x 3 inches. The tech sergeant looked at the aircraft and asked “were you trying to cut a tree or tear a wing off Sir!?!”. Well, a “request to go and see the squadron commander right fucking now” was soon received and I had the pleasure of receiving a lecture on my ancestors bloodline, the cost of aircrafts, the reason for training, his doubt as whether I had a functionning brain, and if I was trying to kill myself, to “do it on my own time now go and fill the proper reports Lt, and if you want to stay in this squadron, you better buck up snotface!”. As I was taking my leave, he added, “by the way, great attack, you’re the only one that scored anything…”. Go figure!?

    Needless to say, I took extra care in watching my altitude and surrounding terrain afterwards! Lesson well-learned…

  55. LC Hardclimber54 Comment by LC Hardclimber54

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    LC Mrs. M-ITT™

    I know it’s time to go find the Häagen-Dazs.

    It is also expected of you to sit in ectasy while we are recounting our “times and anecdotes” during our flying days. Sitting on the floor, closing your eyes and slightly bending your body backwards to bask in our glory is also a nice touch… :em01:

    LC & IB GuyS

    Those DC-3’s were a breed apart! I still see the odd one still flying today, carrying on humbly the many tasks they can perform. No other aircraft in history can compare as far as strength, ruggedness and sheer endurance under, often, near impossible conditions. Like a living legend, they don’t die, they just fade away in the sunset…

  56. LC SkyeChild G.L.O.R. Comment by LC SkyeChild G.L.O.R.

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    Mrs. M. is spying on us…didja notice her avatar? I prefer Breyer’s to Haagen-Dazs, but the sentiment is the same. 8-)

  57. LC Hardclimber54 Comment by LC Hardclimber54

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    LC SkyeChild G.L.O.R.

    I guess Big Sister is watching! That being said, anybody with eyes like that can watch me all they want…

    Is everything well with you BTW?

  58. LC SkyeChild G.L.O.R. Comment by LC SkyeChild G.L.O.R.

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    So far, HC. I had the biopsy done yesterday. Will take a week or so to get the results. Doc didn’t say anything. I guess if it had been “obvious” he would have said what it was. Thanks for asking.

  59. LC Hardclimber54 Comment by LC Hardclimber54

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    LC SkyeChild G.L.O.R.

    You keep us posted please. You have the whole Rott family pulling for you, that counts for a lot!

    You know, my youngest sister was diagnosed with a brain tumor last year. This last February, we were told to go and see her and not to expect much (I live in New Brunswick, she lives in Quebec, about 10 hours drive away). She was under intensive treatment (name it, she received it) and either the last treatment addressed the tumor and killed it, or it was going to take her away. Needless to say, we waited with dread at the results…

    Now, the tumor has DISAPPEARED, she is recovering nicely (although she needs to eat more!) and will be around to enjoy the Holidays. The treatments, as harsh and difficult as they were, did save her life. The doctors are happy with the overall results. She was diagnosed and treated in time.

    I have absolutely no doubt that you will find everything is OK. You have my best wishes, even if I’m all the way in Canada, being a Rott member means I am right there with you, along with the whole gang. Can’t ask for better support than that!

  60. hilljohnny Comment by hilljohnny

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    Sitting on the floor, closing your eyes and slightly bending your body backwards to bask in our glory is also a nice touch…

    just try to not snore :em95:

    heres a story that needs comment link may want to duct tape your head first.

  61. LC Mrs. M-ITT™ Comment by LC Mrs. M-ITT™

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    Mrs M the proper opener is ‘ no shit there i was’

    sorry hilljohnny, I knew I was leaving something out there. That is indeed the signal to get your waders on because it’s gonna get deep. :em99:

    It is also expected of you to sit in ecstasy while we are recounting our “times and anecdotes” during our flying days.

    Hardclimber, there are some things I will sit in ecstasy for….BS Flying Stories are NOT included. :em95:

    Mrs. M. is spying on us…didja notice her avatar?

    SkyeChild, I’m a nosy beeatch….what can I say? :em01:

    and I normally eat Blue Bell….but you non-Southern types probably wouldn’t know what I was talking about. LOL

    Keep good thoughts on those test results. :em69:

  62. LC Hardclimber54 Comment by LC Hardclimber54

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    hilljohnny

    Thank you for the advice about ducttaping my head… Sweet Swinging Mama, the mooselimes ARE gaining ground! And their attitude that they “can do whatever they want” comes from the very head of that school. Everything is served to them on a silver platter and nobody sees the dominance being established. Where are the angry parents DEMANDING an end to this abomination? If the fucking school administrators are so cowed by the mooseslimes, maybe a good meeting with rightfully angered parents would readjust their pissy attitudes! Then same parents should write the State’s authorities and MAKE IT STOP NOW! Political correctness is a shackle used by the very people who tell us to our faces that they intend to take over and kill us all. And we allowed that shackle to be forged and used by our own so-called dickless leaders. What will it take for them to finally see the danger…

    I, for one, refuse to be sacrificed on the altar of PC. If the mooselimes find offense with this, GOOD! Fuck them, fuck the goat they’re screwing, fuck mohapigfuckingpedophilicmed and pigslam.

    hilljohnny

    How could anyone snore while listening to the enthralling stories of former flyboys!?!?!? Plans for a shrine dedicated to our memories should be made right after the discourse is over! :em99: Heck, there should be a thread dedicated to flyboys’ stories and anecdotes I say!

    Useful Idiot

    keep the aviation stuff coming.

    Careful what you wish for, you just might get it! :em01:

  63. Emperor Misha I Comment by Emperor Misha I

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    Careful what you wish for, you just might get it! :em01:

    I certainly hope so, LC HC. I love aviation stories.

    Having been bitten BAD by the flying bug when I was put behind the controls in a Cessna 172 for an introductory flight lesson (and, much to my surprise, found out that I was good at it), but not having the financial wherewithal to ever follow up on that dream, I’ll settle for enjoying vicariously the thrills of flying through the recollections of others.

  64. LC Hardclimber54 Comment by LC Hardclimber54

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    LC Mrs. M-ITT

    there are some things I will sit in ecstasy for….BS Flying Stories are NOT included.

    I’d be curious to hear about those “things” Milady… :em99: We mean well, but we DO get long-winded, as mentionned before!

    Blue Bell, now you got me curious!!! Could you be so kind as to enlighten this humble Canadian as to what it is. I’m sure my “non-Southern” fellow Rotties would appreciate as well! And thank you!

  65. hilljohnny Comment by hilljohnny

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    Hardclimber

    The butt-kicking didn’t come from bouncing on the landing strip, did it…

    why do you think i had to crawl out of the plane. what with my rectum sucking my tighty whiteys so far up the elastic snapped then pounded home by the impact i didn’t walk right for several days. since there was no damage i did Not feel any need for more more abuse. it took a double dose of ex-lax to recycle my shorts.

  66. Sir Christopher Comment by Sir Christopher

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    Twelve Militants Killed in Israeli Airstrikes in Gaza

    Thousands of Gazans took to the streets in funeral processions for the dead militants, whose bodies and coffins were draped with black Islamic Jihad flags. In northern Gaza, bullets from the rifles of mourners severed an electric wire that fell and injured five people, medics said.

  67. LC Hardclimber54 Comment by LC Hardclimber54

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    Emperor Misha I

    I’ll settle for enjoying vicariously the thrills of flying through the recollections of others.

    You wish is our command, oh Emperor !

    So next time you read a post that starts with either “Did I ever tell you the time when…” or “I just thought of an anecdote about …” you’ll know what will be coming next!

    Yes, I loved what I did, and did what I loved. Just so you know, my group started with 119 applicants at the beginning of flight selection and exams, and we ended up 7… I was a very young man, full of fire and lust for flying, and WANTED it so bad, it kept me awake at night. And my desire to fly came one afternoon, when I was 7 years old, playing in back of my parents house, when a tight formation of five T-33 trainers made a low level, slow turn just over the backyard. I looked up in amazement and saw one the pilot looking down and waving. Right there and then I decided that I wanted to become a military aviator. That was in 1960. I never was good at maths, but when I learned that it was the PRIME requirement for the AirForce, I applied myself with all the focus and attention I could muster. Passed the exams (still wonder how!) and when I received word that our AirForce had accepted my application, I became “agitated” should we say. My Dad, may he rest in peace, said that I looked like a kid in a candy store!

    My father was so proud, so was my grand-pa. Our Air Cadets (civilian para-miltary org.) paid for my initial flight training at a local flight school, my first training aircraft being a Cessna 150. Then came instruments rating, for which they paid half, my parents took care of the rest. Then I was sent to a form of summer camp in Bagotville Quebec with 425 Squadron for further training and preparation, flying single engine Otter aircrafts. This alone helped me pass the initial requirements. The rest, as they say, is history… 6821 flight hours on jets and another 115 hours on civilian aircraft (at the beginning) and simulator. 25 years of service with honor and loyalty.
    I owe much to Canada…

  68. hilljohnny Comment by hilljohnny

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    Plans for a shrine dedicated to our memories should be made right after the discourse is over!

    just stack up the empty beercans. :em01:

  69. LC Hardclimber54 Comment by LC Hardclimber54

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    hilljohnny

    why do you think i had to crawl out of the plane. what with my rectum sucking my tighty whiteys so far up the elastic snapped then pounded home by the impact i didn’t walk right for several days.

    Don’t you just hate it when that happens! A couple of times, while practicing touch&go in a high crosswind, I got this “elastic snapping up your asshole feel”. Once, flying a T-33, the aircraft got pushed off course just as I was ready to touch down, putting me about twelve feet off to the right of the actual runway, 15 to 18 feet up. The left wing came up, the aircraft felt like it was going to turn itself upside down, and brand new brown spots appeared in my underwear… I recovered just in time to straighten out the bird, and let it drift down more or less centered on the damn runway, but as soon as I touched down (hard might I add!) the nose was pointing towards the edge of the runway to the left (compensated a wee too much), instead of pointing straight with it. Another frantic play with brakes to adjust, and I know the right wheel came within a few inches of leaving the hard surface. When I rolled to a stop, my heart was pounding and my gut was wrenching with the associated rush of adrenalin. Came a call from the tower “Nice landing, if you’re into circus acts…”. To which I answered “nothing to it tower, had it under control all the time”. A moment of silence, then tower comes back on “bet you have a funny smell in that cockpit right now”. Turned out it was my Squadron instructor, who had watched my solo landing from the tower. “Any landing where the pilot walks away is a good landing” I replied. “That was no landing son, it was a controlled crash” didn’t he come back with. No damage to the aircraft whatsoever. My ego, on the other hand…

  70. LC Hardclimber54 Comment by LC Hardclimber54

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    hilljohnny

    just stack up the empty beercans

    Couldn’t think of a better way myself! A wide variety of brands would add color and style to the construction, wouldn’t you think!? :em99: Unless LC Mrs. M-ITT would prefer using ice cream containers that is… :em01:

    Beer and ice cream, hummm, I wonder…

    Reminds me, what is the Danish AirForce using for birds oh Emperor ? I confess my utter lack of knowledge, the only Scandinavian country I know of in regards to fighters is Sweden, with the superb Saab Grippen and the older Viggen aircraft…

  71. Emperor Misha I Comment by Emperor Misha I

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    Reminds me, what is the Danish AirForce using for birds oh Emperor ?

    They may have changed since I was serving back in the Pleistocene, but back then they were the venerable F-16s. Wonderful birds.

  72. LC Hardclimber54 Comment by LC Hardclimber54

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    Yes, F-16’s are now in Denmark’s inventory, soon to be replaced by the F-35 prototype. Thank you…

  73. hilljohnny Comment by hilljohnny

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    ah the ego, i know what you mean bro. one beautiful summer day i was helping bobby, the mechanic at the field i flew out of, paid for my lessons that way, when he said ‘you know you fly just like your father’. well i grinned and my head started to swell just a bit and he went on ‘ you’re just like him and LaRue (my instructor)’. at this point my feet were about to leave the ground. then ‘ whenever y’all fly i hide in the hanger until your back on the ground’. ffthppp goes my ego but i had to ask ‘HUH???’. ‘you don’t land like normal people do’. slightly more coherently i asked what he meant by that. ‘ normal people hold to the windward side of the field, straighten out about 20 feet off the ground and drift to the center of the strip as they touch down. y’all hold your crab untill you hear the wheels slapping the grass then straighten out. and the grass is never more than 6 inches tall. i just can’t stand to watch you’. if you’ve ever been in a piper cub you know that from the back seat (thats were i learned, thats were i flew) coming in for a landing, nose up and crabbed into the crosswind you can not see where your going. the only alternative to the braille method is to open the door and window, leanout , and look under the plane.

  74. hilljohnny Comment by hilljohnny

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    Beer and ice cream, hummm, I wonder…

    beerfloats maybe, i know a guy who brews his own wheat beer, sweet, very rich. might just work Hc. only problem with his beer it that in comes in at about 18% alcohol. you just can’t drink as much as you would like unless you bring a sleeping bag. :em93:

  75. LC Hardclimber54 Comment by LC Hardclimber54

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    hilljohnny

    comes in at about 18% alcohol. you just can’t drink as much as you would like unless you bring a sleeping bag.

    And the problem would be..? :em99:

    nose up and crabbed into the crosswind you can not see where your going. the only alternative to the braille method is to open the door and window, leanout , and look under the plane.

    Ah yes, those wonderful tail-draggers… Prop is pointing at the sky, tail is dragging on the ground and the only way to see where your taxiing to is by looking at each side alternatively and hoping like mad that there’s nothing directly in front of you… One of my fellow pilot’s father had a J2 that he reconstructed literally from the ground up, and he described landing and taxiing as “exercises in blind luck”. Probably lucky for me, all of the aircraft I flew were tricycle gear. I also had a chance to go up in an old Harvard (WW2 trainer) but had to cancel at the last minute due to a family commitment. Disappointed? You have no idea! It too was a tail-dragger, but visibility was obviously better than what you’d find in the old Pipers…

    At an airshow many years back now, I also had the chance to closely examine a SeaFury, painted and equipped as in WW2 with Canadian markings. It was one of the Canadian aircraft that, during the Korean conflict, was credited in shooting down a Mig-15 during a dogfight. Can you just imagine, a prop jobby taking down a jet that had at least 140 mph speed advantage and a 60% increase in climb rate! These guys were good! When that particular bird made a low pass, the throaty sound coming from it was just awesome. And quite graceful too, considering the size of the cowling and prop. Reminds me also of an airshow in CFB Ottawa, where we had the chance to see a P-51 Mustang with the moniker “Death Rattle”. Lovingly rebuilt and put back to WW2 specs, it unfortunately crashed after the airshow, during take-off to go back home. The pilot had topped up the fuel tanks for the trip home, and had also added extra luggage on board. The aircraft started to climb, banked left obviously out of control about 600 feet off the ground, and plunge into the nearby golf course, killing the pilot. I did not see it, but two of my colleagues were on hand. The look of misery on their faces when they recounted the event. We hate losing a fellow pilot…

  76. hilljohnny Comment by hilljohnny

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    Hardclimber small house, his wife got tired of tripping over the comatose bodies of the casualties. :em95:

  77. Sir Christopher Comment by Sir Christopher

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    what is it with Germany and releasing terrorists?

    (which is related to the question, what is it with Italy and paying for hostage releases?)

    Germany Releases ‘Mykonos’ Assassins

  78. LC Mrs. M-ITT™ Comment by LC Mrs. M-ITT™

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    Blue Bell, now you got me curious!!!

    It’s a Texas based company that basically only sells ice cream here in the South. Some of the best you can find. Ben and Jerry’s only wished they were this good. :em93:

    Matter of fact I just polished off a half a pint of Chocolate Covered Cherry that puts Cherry Garcia to shame.

    Oh…and Your Imperiousness….you might want to back off the Death Ray™ a bit….people are starting to notice. Not that it really matters. They will only blame it on the Bush/Cheney/Blackwater/Halliburton/Rove Mind Bending Weather Machine™ , but someone might manage to put two and five and a half together.

  79. hilljohnny Comment by hilljohnny

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    Rosie Beware the harpooners are looking for you! the blind squirrels in the eco-movement may have found an acorn. they have built a boat that runs on HUMAN FAT how many barrels do you think rosie would yield? :em01:

  80. hilljohnny Comment by hilljohnny

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    and yet more good news on the border fence :em69:

  81. LC Hardclimber54 Comment by LC Hardclimber54

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    hilljohnny

    The enviro-wackos must be tearing their hair at the roots over this! They didn’t get their way, just you watch, they’ll start forming human barriers to stop the construction crews from getting on with the job.
    The barrier is a symbol that they are NOT in charge of your country, makes it even worse to them eheheheh!

    The Sierra Club, another fine example of an organization that exists solely to validate itself. I’m glad the fence is going up, even the symbolism of it will have a huge effect on illegal immigrants by simply stating “we will start applying the laws to our land against any illegals, be warned”. As far as enforcement, it is hoped that your authorities will have enough cojones to address this growing problem. That being said, we are starting to have many folks from Mexico entering Canada illegally. It is not yet a “flood” but all the signs are there. Problems ahead, that’s certain…

    Strange how the U.S. has never felt a need to put up a fence between itself and Canada..? I’d like to think that, generally speaking, Canada is a very prosperous country which offers its citizens plenty of opportunities to earn a decent living. No need to go an pester our American neighbors (see, no “u”!). Although we now need to carry passports to be permitted entry in both countries, I certainly can understand the need.

    You all ready for Christmas my friend?

  82. hilljohnny Comment by hilljohnny

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    hardclimber we have had the greatest respect for Canada since the war of 1812 when you whupped our ass and made us keep maine. :em93:

  83. LC Hardclimber54 Comment by LC Hardclimber54

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    hilljohnny

    we have had the greatest respect for Canada since the war of 1812 when you whupped our ass and made us keep maine.

    Just don’t tell JackBoot, BC and crunchie now! They might decide to cut me out of the Rott completely!!! Mind you, the bulk of the forces engaged were of British origin, Canadian troops and militia members accounted for only about 30% of these forces…

    I had an ancestor who fought in that war, living in was then “Upper Canada”. Took part in the battle of Queenston Height, survived the battle, fought skirmishes along the border and around the Great Lakes, moved to Nova Scotia (Windsor NS) after the war, married and raised a family, moved to Quebec to pursue a business opportunity, but unfortunately, the records end there. I now have relatives and “same-last-namesake” in Scotland, Swizerland, Germany, Holland, France, U.S. and England. Can’t say my family didn’t like to travel! The last name is originally of Dutch origin…

    Best show of friendship and combined determination between Canada and the U.S. came with the formation of the “Devil’s Brigade” of legendary fame during WW2. A movie was made of it. Ask the Germans what they thought of these men… I’d like to think that our two nations will always be at peace and never, never again, have to fight one another. Mind you, your forces outnumber our forces by a ratio of 20 to 1, or, like one of my old squadron commander used to say, “a nice even fight”. Can’t say this guy was not optimistic… Lets see, U.S. Air Force 4000 fighters, Canadian Air Force, 80. Yep, just about even… :em93:

  84. LC Hardclimber54 Comment by LC Hardclimber54

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    Quick joke…

    An American Naval Task Force is heading north in the Altantic during an exercise, comprised of an aircraft carrier, 4 missiles frigates and 10 destroyers. Cruising near the Canadian mainland and seeing a light on the far horizon, the Task Force commander issue this radio transmission:

    Commander “This is Task Force 12, you are to divert your course north 10 degrees”

    Canadian transmission: “Negative Task Force, YOU divert your course 10 degrees”

    Commander: “That’s a negative! YOU divert 10 degrees NOW!”

    Canadian transmission: “Negative, you divert immediately!”

    Commander: “This is a U.S. Task Force comprised of 15 warships, and I will take whatever action necessary to insure its safety, understood!? Divert 10 degrees north NOW I repeat NOW!”

    Canadian transmission: “This is a lighthouse… your call.”

    :em01:

  85. Sir Christopher Comment by Sir Christopher

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    Looks like Olmert realizes how much he has weakened Israel:

    Report: Nuclear bunker being built in residence of Israeli PM Olmert…

  86. Sir Christopher Comment by Sir Christopher

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    Worst Economy since Grover Cleveland:

    BOOM: Economy Grows 4.9%…

  87. Sir Christopher Comment by Sir Christopher

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    DARWIN, Australia — An Australian car accident victim died Thursday after his family lost a legal battle to keep him on life support in a hospital, an official said.

    Paulo Melo, 29, from Darwin on Australia’s north coast, slipped into a coma after suffering brain and spinal injuries in a Dec. 5 accident.

    His family gained a temporary injunction in the Northern Territory Supreme Court on Tuesday preventing the Royal Darwin Hospital from switching off his life support system, which had kept him alive.

    yikes

  88. LC Moriarty Comment by LC Moriarty

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    Best show of friendship and combined determination between Canada and the U.S. came with the formation of the “Devil’s Brigade” of legendary fame during WW2.

    HC,

    If you have a chance, get a copy of A Rifleman Went to War. In what later became a supreme irony, the author moved to Canada from the US and enlisted during WW1, fearful that the fighting would be over before the US entered the fray.

    It’s a remarkable account.

  89. LC Mrs. M-ITT™ Comment by LC Mrs. M-ITT™

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    An American Naval Task Force is heading north in the Atlantic during an exercise

    I gotta….I just gotta…. :em01:

  90. LC Hardclimber54 Comment by LC Hardclimber54

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    LC Moriarty

    Thank you Sir! I am an AVID reader, and books such as this one always interest me to the highest degree.

    Never a lack of brave men in these countries of ours…

    Just to add, Many years back now, I once had one of your visiting General declare jokingly “should the U.S. and Canada go to war, I’d lose about 25,000 soldiers immediately.” Puzzled, I asked why he tought this.
    “Because many of my lads would not want to have to face any of your troops and simply would desert”. One of my fellow officer quiped innocently “Somehow, we had put that number at 40,000…”. All in good spirit of course. The General laughed heartily, but added more seriously “I’ve seen your soldiers fight in Korea when I was a very young LT, and they would NOT yield ground until they were out of ammunition, Even the Chinese learned to respect the Canucks…

    Couldn’t ask for a nicer complliment, coming from another soldier… Now you know why I am so proud of our so precious few soldiers. Our government, unfortunately, does not take the defense of the country seriously, and only sees itself at the service of the U.N. One day, we’ll pay the price for our indolence…

  91. LC Hardclimber54 Comment by LC Hardclimber54

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    LC Mrs. M-ITT™

    Probably where my joke originated from! :em99:

    Madam, you are precious, I simply love ya! :em02:

  92. LC Cheapshot911, Dept. of Redneck Tech Comment by LC Cheapshot911, Dept. of Redneck Tech

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    Any Engineers tuned in?
    If I understand the diff’ between mechanical and civilian engineers,, where the mechanical discipline will be building weapons, and the civilian folks build targets,, it looks to me like the iranian mechanical engineers have crossed into the civilian sphere with the advent of an F-5 knockoff,, soon to be smoldering in a desert near,,,er,, well, somewhere..

  93. LC Hardclimber54 Comment by LC Hardclimber54

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    LC Cheapshot911

    F-5 hey… Obsolete technology at best. Even with upgraded avionics and weapon systems, it would be hard-pressed in a face-to-face encounter with any modern fighter because of the “legendary” incompetence of Middle East pilots in general. They are doing some copying, no more. The Major would probably agree with me on this one. Iranian F-5 wannabe against an F-22 Raptor. Gee, I don’t know, even fight? Nope, can’t come up with nothing here…

    Remember what happened to the armies of Egypt, Jordan and Syria in the ‘73 attack on tiny Israel. Equipped with supposedly “modern and updated” soviet vehicles, aircrafts and weapons, they still managed to get their asses handed back to them by a country that was outnumbered 15 to 1 at the best of times! M-48 tanks destroying T55’s at the rate of 5 to 1, British Centurions tanks scoring in the same ratio, and the odd M-60 which would take out 7 of theirs for the loss of one of their own. Middle eastern armies simply do not comprehend modern warfare or the use of updated equipment, hence their constantly being soundly trashed whenever they start fooling themselves again.

    Dream on Iran, you’re just another insignificant middle east small time player.

  94. LC Cheapshot911, Dept. of Redneck Tech Comment by LC Cheapshot911, Dept. of Redneck Tech

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    Iranian F-5 wannabe against an F-22 Raptor. Gee, I don’t know,

    Yep, they’re obviously building targets,,, that makes ‘em civilian engineers?

  95. hilljohnny Comment by hilljohnny

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    Hardclimber

    like one of my old squadron commander used to say, “a nice even fight”.

    i’ll bet he also said things like “Target Rich Enviroment”. :em93:

    “This is a lighthouse… your call.”

    way i heard it was”This is a lighthouse, I’ll see your task force and raise you one coastline” :em69:

  96. hilljohnny Comment by hilljohnny

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    i think i’ve found one of the Iranian test flights :em93:

  97. LC Hardclimber54 Comment by LC Hardclimber54

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    hilljohnny

    A target rich environment. In actual Air Force speak it translates to “One of those bastard is gonna nail your ass…”.

    Actually the same old squadron commander, a Korean war vet, once told us (in the officers’ mess, enjoying a cigar). “Took off with 4 F-86 Sabre aircrafts and met up with six similar birds from the US A/F. Flew two miles apart and picked up some distance (Canadair built F-86 had a slightly more powerful engine, which gave the canuck F-86 a 30mph speed advantage). Just as we turned left at the end of our patrol area, we noticed 4 Mig-15s coming high and fast, obviously going for the U.S. aircrafts. We turned back into them in a shallow climb and broke their formation by flying, literally, through them with guns blazing. Only then did we notice another 4 ennemy aircraft coming in as we turned to engage the first 4. Pretty soon, we were up to our arses in Migs. One of the newest pilot managed to severely damage one, which wisely chose to disengage and head back to its base, smoking heavily. The other seven were all fired upon, and finally I got one of the bastard. The remaining six simply turned tail and disappeared back to base. Our fuel situation forced us to return as well. When we got back to base, the U.S. patrol had just arrived and its flight leader, upon meeting us at debrief, said “don’t you hate those patrols when nothing happens?”. And the Colonel (then a captain) answered “Yeah, boring as hell, with only one kill and one damaged… So, you guys didn’t see anything..?”.

    With an impish smile, the Colonel finished his cigar and bid us good evening. We developed a great deal of respect and admiration for the man (he had 4 confirmed kills and 4 damaged on record). Strict but fair, we all learned a lot from him. He was always insistent on formation flying and combat training, and demanded nothing but the best in all of us. He retired a couple of years after. I owe men like him a lot. Excellence, dedication and loyalty, they understood these concepts extremely well…

  98. hilljohnny Comment by hilljohnny

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    i think i’ve found some video of an Iranian test flight. :em93: sorry for the dup, when i posted at 2:48 it didn’t show until after i reposted

  99. LC Hardclimber54 Comment by LC Hardclimber54

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    hilljohnny

    i think i’ve found some video of an Iranian test flight.

    Euh, don’t think so… The aircraft stayed in flight for much too long to be iranian… :em99: And the pilot had the good sense to eject. An iranian fuck wouldn’t have known which handle to pull…

  100. LC & IB GuyS Comment by LC & IB GuyS

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    hilljohnny

    Sorry for the delay in replying to your question at comment #50. I don’t remember/know what was the cause for the structural breakdown of the Jug on one of the Pratts (Pratt and Whitney engines … for you non aviators out there… one of the legendary engine companies.) And the same goes for the catastrophic failure of the other. What I do recall is the engine was designed with a strainer where you could (and did) take samples of the hydrolic fluid these were examined for contamination and such by a member of the QA department after (I believe) every 10 hours of flying time on the engine. It didn’t happen often, but chip lights going on were not rare. It should also be noted, despite the high level of maintenance kept on our beloved birds, the airframes alone were over 40 years old by the time we were flying them. (At least one still had the original log book on hand.) The engines were (of course) much newer. I would give my eye teeth and underused left testicle to be working and crewing on those “Ensign Proof” aircraft.

  101. hilljohnny Comment by hilljohnny

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    GuyS

    despite the high level of maintenance kept on our beloved birds, the airframes alone were over 40 years old by the time we were flying them

    from what i was told by my father and others during the saturday BS session out at the airport (dad was a member of the EAA) the DC-3 was the most overengineered airframe ever built. the plane had already designed and scheduled to be built when higher-ups decided it should be built from aluminum instead of steel. so the designers got the specs for aluminum, but since they had never worked with it as support structure before, after setting out the airframe specs they increaseed all cross-section measurements by 10%. when the head engineer looked over the designs he too decided to fudge a little and again added 10%. when the plans got to the production manager he also thought bigger was better and ordered another 10% increase. none of these people knew that the ones before had already changed the measurements and so ended up with an airplane with about a 150 year life cycle instead of the 30-40 they had intended. thats why the “gooney’s” built in the 1930’s still show no signs of structural fatigue. this mistake was somewhat corrected in the 1940’s but wasn’t fully realised untill the mid 60’s. there are still several hundred being used today.

  102. LC & IB GuyS Comment by LC & IB GuyS

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    And all this was done with out the aid of computers. It was considered state of the art engineering (electro and mechanical) at that time. I wonder btw, how many of the airframes still in service are using piston pushers vice turbo-props as engines? In any case hilljohnny, if you get the chance to go up in one for a spin, jump at it. There isn’t a much prettier sound in the world then two engines trimmed out…purring like lionesses…up in the clear blue sky.

  103. LC HJ Caveman82952 Comment by LC HJ Caveman82952

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    You have all struck a chord within me. My father was a commercial pilot for forty years, his last command the left seat of a four-seven for fifteen years. I have always loved and been fascinated by aircraft, yet never learned to fly. I have flown well over a hundred thousand miles as a civilian, in all sorts of planes, but I do have some certain favorites. The DC-3 remains one of my favorites. I always loved and respected that flying safe, cruising along at one-fifty knots flying over British Columbia. A trip done on several occasions. One thing giving me great pause was the Canadian caption asking me, “You want to fly this bird?” So…in the first officers seat, and oh so gently feeling the aircraft bank gently to the right or left. I did notice his hand never left the controls. My father was in awe of the DC-3, said it helped build the DEW line, a project he was part of. That and the Lockheed Connies. I remember reading the history of the DC-3, and of a time long ago when a competitor to Douglas decided to pull a cute trick and seek to deny the craft a certification due to it being allegedly incapable of losing an engine at altitude and flying over the Rockies on one engine with a load. I saw the grainy video, held my breath as the starboard engine was killed, the port firewalled. I believe it was with the newer eighteen hundred horsepower engines. With the rudder compensating, she held her altitude and got through the Rockies. What a gutty bird! I was cheering all the while. The old props, for there were no civilian jet liners when I was a little kid. It brings a smile to my heart remembering. I remember almost getting killed in an Australian thunderstorm over Queensland in a DC-9 while on leave in the navy. Something about a massive downdraft on final approach. You know, those engines are mighty loud when on full power, I am not talking takeoff power, I mean everthing she had, climbing out. Nice thing about Aussie airlines, I got hammered on the free drinks offered after we touched down, and thanking the Captain profusely for saving my ass. But I am smiling now as I think back about an old friend, the DC-3.

  104. hilljohnny Comment by hilljohnny

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    Caveman the 1820 & 1830 Pratt & Whitney depending on model ranged from 900 to 1200 hp. each, the cruise ceiling was over 16,000 feet on one or both engines with a full load onboard. the highest point in the rockies is less than 15,000 feet. max altitude for takeoff with full load on one engine is over 11,000 feet. i don’t know anything about the turbine models. i did get to fly “copilot” on one when i was seventeen. it was great.edit when i posted this your post from may 26 popped up. it was so good i saved a copy (after wiping the dust from my eyes) hope thats okay.

  105. LC Hardclimber54 Comment by LC Hardclimber54

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    LC HJ Caveman82952

    I have always loved and been fascinated by aircraft, yet never learned to fly.

    My friend, it is NEVER too late! If your eyesight and general health allows, don’t miss the opportunity. You’ve enjoyed being in control of the DC-3 for an all too short moment. Imagine what it’d be like to be in total control as YOU being the captain of the bird! There is NOTHING in the world quite like it. And the old aircrafts, well, they carry magic…

    Got a good long hard look at an old Norseman bush aircraft back in the late ’70s. Pilot had lost his bearings (defective compass, electrical acting up) and was flying in and out of cloud cover trying to orient himself using the sun. Two of us flying CF-5s were sent to escort him back to the nearest airfield up in northern Alberta, his fuel starting to get low. After a radar controlled intercept 20 minutes later, we pointed him in the right direction and flew zig-zag overhead in order to see him safely to the airfield. Minimum speed before stall for the CF-5 was 160 knots on a wish and a hope, the venerable Norseman could pull 70, maybe 75, and he’s sucking the lining at the bottom of his fuel tank at this time. It was an interesting 15 minutes… But we got to look at the bird with veneration. Solid, dignified, elegant even… Just before his final, we radio’d him “you’ll be OK, beautiful aircraft you got there”. He replied “bet you say that to all the Norseman you see… Thanks Air Force, your presence told me I was in safe hands”. To which we replied “bet you say that to all the CF-5s you meet”. :em93:

    You guys know the poem “High Flight” by John Gillespie Magee written in September 1941..? It describes flight almost perfectly… (yes, I know, you got that from an atheist and all :em93: )

    Hope I am NOT boring you with my, how did Mrs T put it, BS flight stories…

  106. Sir Christopher Comment by Sir Christopher

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    Caveman, i work with a guy who did three tours in Vietnam, flying in Navy Connies on electronic warfare missions over North Vietnam. Carried a .357. I love this guy, though he instills fears in all our subcontractors. Used to fly booze in from P.I. to trade for Connie parts with the Air Force who had a large fleet. He gave me peanut brittle today, homemade.