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As the wet-dream of surrendering the WoT fades into the sunset and election silliness at full throttle, the DemonCraps begin to sing us a distracting lullaby. They put all their eggs in one basket, an ignominious cut and run from the sandbox to cheering traitors inside the beltway with ticker-tape parades for Reid, Lugosi, et al, that finally brought the Bush administration to it’s knees. Enter Stage Left, General David Petraeus and after a few weeks of marginally positive news from the sandbox, even the most skeptical lefty editor had to concede, we’re winning.

What to do if you’re a fully-vested member of the Cut and Run Party to keep from getting bit on the ass come November?

Funny you should ask, because just in time, the Deadstream Media™, decides we are no longer interested in maniacal, murderous religious fanatics, with world domination as a stated goal. We’ve decided that money is the real defining issue of the election, along with domestic issues that just so happen to coincide with the Dhimmicrats platform of Socialist Utopia, World Peace, Prosperity, Social Justice, Free Health Care for all and a complete ban on the heartbreak of psoriasis.

Pocketbook worries outweigh voters’ concerns over war in Iraq

Voters began to worry more about their pocketbooks over the last month — even more than about the war in Iraq.

Over the last month, huh? No coinky-dink with the irrevocable fact that we’re winning in Iraq right? nahhhhh……Grab a beverage and a snack, this one is going to take some time to work through pups.

More than half the voters in an ongoing survey for The Associated Press and Yahoo! News now say the economy and health care are extremely important to them personally. They fear they will face unexpected medical expenses, their homes will lose value or mortgage and credit card payments will overwhelm them.

In two short sentences, a message brought to you by the DNC, courtesy of the Associated (with Socialists) Press. Where’s McVain-Feingold when you need it?

Events, however, can quickly change public opinion. Thursday’s assassination of Pakistan opposition leader Benazir Bhutto could draw more attention to terrorism and national security, an issue that still ranked highly with the public and which 45 percent of those polled considered extremely important.

And politicians fully vested in wet-dreams can change position even faster. Keeping their fingers crossed that a shit-storm of Muslim outrage and a possible civil war in country that just so happens to have nukes won’t get our attention about the ongoing War on Terror with a new front.

This latest AP-Yahoo! News survey of more than 1,800 people by Knowledge Networks offers a unique opportunity to track changes in public attitudes as the presidential campaign unfolds. The first poll was last month and set a base line to measure national sentiment.

Ohhh so this is number 2? They got their baseline last month, see the headlines yesterday and decided they better yank some more phony numbers before the situation in Pakistan boils over.

In the new results, men and women approaching retirement were especially attentive to the economy and health care, with six out of 10 ranking both issues extremely important. Politically, the attention to such domestic issues hangs darkly over Republicans. Voters say they are far more likely to trust Democrats to handle the economy and health care.
[Emph Mine]

Of course the right is dark on domestic issues, we’re the EEEvil KKKapitalists that push senior citizens in wheelchairs off the cliff, starve babies and throw ER patients out into the cold. The only economy the left can be trusted with is your personal bank account. Here’s a visualization for the Demonrats health care system: Think of going to Motor Vehicles on a Saturday morning, taking your number and then waiting for a time equal to that of sending a first-class snail mail letter to say Alaska from Atlanta. Meanwhile, you’re having radiating, sub-sternal chest pains.

Consider Linda Zimmerman, a 50-year-old sheep farmer from Thurmont, Md. Her daughter and son-in-law are having trouble keeping up with two mortgages on a town house, she said. One street in her neighborhood has five homes for sale, and one has been on the market for two years.

Two mortgages eh? Any possibility they overextended themselves on the second? We all know the housing market is taking a dump, and the only rational course is letting it adjust back to where it should be. They didn’t call it a bubble for nothing. Everyone and their pet chimp, jumped into the market, flipping and flopping real estate like beads flying at Mardi Gras, with banks qualifying applicants that had a pulse for those wonderful PIMOs. So the market artificially went up, and up and up, right into a stall. New players can’t get in the game because real estate prices are completely disconnected from average wages. Thus the Ponzi Scheme crashes.

Registered as a Republican, she’s ready to reconsider.

“We’re Republicans and I’m very unhappy with them, and I’ve been watching the Democrats,” she said. “We did better when (Bill) Clinton was in than we did with Bush. It’s just terrible.”

You did better with who? You don’t happen to have any blue dresses in your closet do you Linda? If you’ve been watching the Democrats for more than say 5 minutes, running the Most Ethical Congress Evah™, you would actually understand that they’ve done nothing whatsoever for the country, other than trying to ram Shamnesty 2007 and the S-Chip Backdoor Socialized Medicine Scam past our noses and up our rectums.

The Democratic edge on such issues illustrates the predicament Republicans face going into a presidential election. Iraq doesn’t dominate the news as it used to, replaced by headlines about slumping home sales, high gasoline prices and a credit crunch.

And I’m sure the AP and their fellow travelers will continue to trumpet, all the shit that’s fit to print. Gas prices? Ask Congress and the enviro-whackos about ANWR and refinery construction ? Home sales and credit crunches, ask yourself that question. Do you think the Hildebeast has a magic wand for that, and more?

The impact of Bhutto’s assassination on public opinion depends on whether Americans perceive her death as an added threat to the United States. Terrorism was the only issue polled that Republicans were trusted to handle better than Democrats.

We don’t perceive Bhutto’s assassination as a threat you idiot, we do see the aftermath, specifically the reaction by the 7th century savages in a nuclear armed country as a threat. Terrorism was and is still the most pressing issue of our time. Europe, Africa and a significant portion of Asia are under assault by a massive influx of radical fundamentalist hordes, with a stated goal of world domination and consolidation under Sharia law. Fortunately those of us here stateside that haven’t been drinking the kool-aid recognize that and damn well aren’t going to get distracted by phony crises and class warfare.

Republican Rudy Giuliani had benefited most from people’s fears of terrorism. But over the past month his level of support dropped, even among voters who said terrorism was an important issue. Giuliani is now trying to get some of those voters back, releasing an ad Thursday that uses images of the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attack on New York.

Bzzzt..wrong answer again. Rudy’s numbers are dropping because the other candidates are getting more of their message heard and over the name recognition issue, coupled with the conservative wing of the party at odds with Rudy on many social issues.

All in all, though, voters appear to be weighing other issues at least as heavily as the country heads into the first voting of the presidential election. [Emph Mine]

You just can’t help yourselves can you? Let me help you out on the “Other Issues”, the War on Terror and Border Security.

Financial worries have risen in prominence. Forty-eight percent of those polled said Social Security is extremely important to them, up from 42 percent in November. That’s virtually the same as the 46 percent who considered Iraq extremely important.

Just a 6% increase in polls that routinely have a 5% +/- margin of error. We do so love it when nominal polling data, suspect to begin with, is trumpeted as significant as long as it fits your narrative. If it goes the other way, you fall all over your asses pointing out the margin of error.

These new public concerns are reflected on the campaign trail, where candidates are hitting domestic topics hard. There too, Democrats have an edge over Republicans when it comes to connecting with their core voters.

It’s such a mystery, no matter how many times the Dems pull out the moth-eaten Playbook of Standard Memes™, that coincidentally the polling public just happens to be fixating on said standard playbook themes. Such a puzzlement.

Overall, 42 percent of Democrats are very or extremely satisfied with the amount of attention their favored candidates are giving to the issues that matter most to them. Only 32 percent of Republicans feel that way about their candidates. Of all the candidates, Democrat Barack Obama gets the best rating among his supporters.

Let’s turn this one over-easy. 58% of Democrat voters aren’t satisfied with the candidates addressing of important issues, while 78% of Republican voters aren’t liking what they’re getting fed from their side. The chickens are coming home to roost on the RINOs and the Socialists dancing to the tune of Soros and Company.

Bill Hine, a 65-year-old Vietnam veteran from Warrenton, Va., considers himself a “soft Republican” who is partial to John McCain. But the nation’s health system needs fixing, he said, and he’s not happy with what he’s hearing.

With all respect to your service Bill, you’re soft-in-the-head if you’re partial to the McTraitor, and the MSM takes note that the bullshit talking points message about the health care non-disaster is getting through.

“A lot of Republicans are just anti-anything, anti-changing anything, and that’s one of the things I’ll be looking at,” he said.

Considering the things we’re against are with good reason, you know that concept of less government, lower taxes and maximum individual responsibility idea, that the left continually tries to erode with socialism, it’s very likely that we’ll continue to be against all of that. Bill the Soft-Republican my ass.

Six out of 10 people polled said they believe it is at least somewhat likely that the U.S. economy will enter a recession next year. Slightly more — 64 percent — said they worried about a major unexpected medical expense, and 55 percent worried that the value of their stocks and retirement investments would drop.

And 8 out of 10, couldn’t explain the economy of balancing their checkbooks. Better hurry-up and pull all your money out of that stock market and send it to Congress right away, we all know DC gives us the best return on investment, right?. Are the folks that you made up to poll, worried about medical expenses due to cause or effect? I think I’d be a bit more concerned about getting run over by a bus, than the hospital bill afterwards.

Forty-four percent said they were concerned that the value of their homes would decrease during the next six months. That sentiment was especially strong in the mountain states.

OH noesies…all those Aspen and Vail, multi-million dollar dream home prices could drop. The horror of it all, someone might have to cut back on private jet trips to Bali.

“Middle class America is being chipped away at,” said Edward Lemieux, a 57-year-old pattern maker from North Smithfield, R.I., who plans to support Obama for president.

By increasingly more burdensome confiscatory taxes, regulation, nanny-state government programs and the bureaucrats that run them, along with 20 million or so, illegal aliens slurping away unfettered at the public funds feeding trough. Do feel free to pull for B. Hussein though, any vote against Hillary works for us.

His view is influenced by the flight of manufacturing jobs from his state, by the “For Sale” signs that outnumber the “Sold” signs on neighborhood lawns and by his mother’s health care needs.

“We’re all of a sudden becoming a country of rich and poor,” he said. “The middle class is eroding.”

The bourgeoisie has stripped of its halo every occupation hitherto honored and looked up to with reverent awe. It has converted the physician, the lawyer, the priest, the poet, the man of science, into its paid wage laborers.

The bourgeoisie has torn away from the family its sentimental veil, and has reduced the family relation into a mere money relation.

Let the revolution begin !!!! /satire

Despite those worries, respondents have grown slightly more optimistic about the direction of the nation during the past month. Nearly three out of 10 say the country is on the right path, compared with 24 percent last month. This uptick in the national mood is evident in both parties, though it’s much stronger among Republicans. Still, more than seven out of 10 said they believe the U.S. is headed down the wrong track.

Again the natural confusion of citizens that understand that the economy is booming, the situation on the ground in Iraq is improved and jobless rates below statistical ZERO. Meanwhile the message from the Socialist Slime talking-heads, is quite the opposite AND health-care is a train wreck, while we’re lying about ‘domestic issues’.

Interest in immigration — a major issue in the Republican presidential contest — remained the same as last month, with 37 percent saying it was an extremely important issue. But for all the candidates’ efforts to distinguish themselves on that issue, the poll found that none of the leading contenders holds an advantage among Republicans who feel most strongly about immigration.

No they’re too busy slinging mud about religion at each other instead of standing on actual conservative principles firmly. Frankly, we’re sick of ‘pretend’ conservatives running in the GOP. They get into the actual race, lose whatever testicular fortitude they had, and promptly run to the middle, afraid of the ’scary’ moderate votes. Meanwhile the true conservative base is left with Hobson’s Choice of who the least RINO is.

Sentiments on health care and the economy could make a difference in the Democratic contest.

Make no mistake about it, the candidate that keeps gargling the testicles of Marx/Lenin/Mao/Pol Pot/Stalin will “appear” to have the backing of the base to their own destruction. The screaming me-mees of BowelMoveMentOn, Code Pink and the rest will continue to keep the funding going as long as their lap dogs stay on the ONLY message they want to hear, with the fawning scum-bag journaljizmers aiding and abetting them all with ‘news’ and even more phony polls. Once they get into the general election they won’t have a choice but to respond to ‘real’ issues and voters and that semen-stained Soros money will dry up like HT’s vaginal tract. [apologies to BC, but it was irresistable]

Hillary Rodham Clinton and John Edwards supporters have much stronger feelings about the economy and Social Security than Obama voters. Edwards has staked his campaign on a message of economic populism, while Clinton draws 40 percent of her support from people with household incomes of less than $25,000, far more than her rivals.

It doesn’t take rocket science to figure that one out. Obama appeals to the young and dumb. Shrillary and Two-Americas Edwards have the older crowd harem-scarem tactics down. Likewise the equation for Hillary and the lower household incomes is obvious. She’s got the most freebies promised to those that are paying a pathetic (or no) portion of income tax revenues, compared to solid middle-class families.

Clinton, Obama and Edwards have been feuding over who would provide the most comprehensive health care plan.

Nearly two-thirds of voters polled said the United States should adopt a universal health insurance program “in which everyone is covered under a program like Medicare that is run by the government and financed by taxpayers.” Fewer, but still a majority at 54 percent, said they supported a single-payer system whereby all Americans would get their health insurance through a taxpayer-financed government plan.

Bullshit Flag on the play and loss of the down. Obviously they developed a push-poll question on health care, mixing, matching and hashing universal health care and single-payer systems, again neither of which our average fellow citizens have a clue about the utter failure of it, everytime it’s been tried. Once we get into the generals, I think the healthcare issue is going to quickly become a non-starter. None of the Dems have had to defend their rationale for it’s need to this point, so it’s all been about who could keep the straightest face, lying about the cost and efficiency.

Lynn Haynes, 42, of Huntington, W.Va., works in the state government’s welfare department where she sees clients who can’t afford health care. What’s more, she has a 35-year-old sister who is developmentally delayed and “falls into the cracks” of government assistance programs. She’s a registered Republican, likes Giuliani but supports universal health care and is giving Democrats a hard look.

Lynn should be immediately terminated for incompetence. Can you spell Medicaid? I’m not surprised though, she is from the state that keeps sending our most favorite punching-bag, mummified, proof of life-after-death Sheets Byrd back to the Senate.

“I see too many people at work especially who just don’t get any health care,” Haynes said. “I look at what they get for retirement and Social Security, and I don’t see how they live on that and afford their prescriptions.”

Ahh the vaunted 45 million uninsured. There are a least a hundred ways to make health care affordable for the under or uninsured, none of which require a dubious redistribution of wealth through the gubmint. If one pays careful attention, the major health insurance carriers are beginning to offer individual/family policies that are quite competitive with employer-based programs. They’re putting the individuals into a pool and treating them like they would a large corporation. Prescription costs are directly attributable to government regulation and labyrinthine patent periods that saddle the manufacturers with having to capitalize HUNDREDS of millions of R&D costs into a few years of initial marketing. Add to that trial lawyers and class action suits that can bankrupt a manufacturer because ONE patient in a coupla’ hundred thousand has a bad reaction. Please note these are the same Big Businesses that the Dems are itching to tax even more. Guess who pays in the end?

The survey of 1,821 adults was conducted from Dec. 14-20, and had an overall margin of sampling error of plus or minus 2.3 percentage points. Included were interviews with 847 Democrats, for whom the margin of sampling error was plus or minus 3.4 points, and 655 Republicans, with a margin of sampling error of plus or minus 3.8 points.

They admit to an 11% skew in sampling, but the question for an honest pollster is were all participants asked the same questions? Lies, Damned Lies and Statistics….and polls are ALL about statistics. I’ve personally been registered to vote for over 30 years and NEVER participated in a political poll, coincidence or not?

Pardon the excessive length here and congratulations on finishing it at all. There’s a lesson here, our opponents have shown their hand completely. It’s the same playbook that put BJ and Company into the West Wing for two-terms. The left knows it can’t ever win on domestic security and foreign policy issues, so with the assistance of the MSM, the public is lulled into a false sense that domestic issues are more important. They’ll keep this drumbeat going right into November, regardless of the Dem’s candidate. Churchill lost his reelection run within months after the end of WW2. We’re clearly winning in the WoT and that creates a win-win for the media. They can withhold on the good news, per standard procedure and keep up a steady buzz of how ‘bad’ domestic issues are. The danger to the right, is the candidates themselves going wobbly, buying into the domestic issue narrative and positioning themselves as moderates. That’s a sure-fire LOSING strategy in 2008. The true base on the right, sees through the BS about class warfare, economic ‘concerns’ and phony health-care crises and will sit it all out. While the moderates, like the supposed Republicans quoted above will pull for the Dems.

The situation is dangerous, as the current front runners for the GOP would all jump right into the moderate camp in the general election, abandoning we Reagan-Conservatives entirely with socially liberal, and marginally conservative fiscal and foreign policy platforms.

Thus the Dems win by default. We must, repeat MUST stay on top of this and insist, demand, scream and with hold money from whatever GOP candidate refuses to fully embrace the truly important issues facing America moving into 2008.

30 Responses to “Right On Cue”
  1. The Major Comment by The Major

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    Waddaya expect from the propaganda wing of the Dildocrats… Pathetic biased bastards! :em98:

  2. Brian the sailor Comment by Brian the sailor

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    Goodness that was long.
    You may remember that the press did the same thing towards the end of Bush the Elder’s term. We had gone through a minor recession. These things happen, sorta like the natural shifts in climate. We had already begun to recover, but the MSM refused to report about that, instead continuing to preach doom and gloom.
    And the people bought it. Make no mistake, the MSM was on a quest to get Bill Clinton elected, even though a lot of people saw him for the slick used car salesman he was.

    Wow…that’s the most I’ve typed in quite a while.

  3. Emperor Misha I Comment by Emperor Misha I

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    One thing that always strikes me about those blatantly obvious bought-and-paid-for DNC propaganda puff pieces is how they always include a whole slew of “registered Republicans” who, strangely enough, all sound like life-long Dhimmicrats.

    And anybody who as much considers voting for a Socialist Nationalized Hell Care Ponzi Scheme deserves every fucking last second of excruciating agony that they’ll be rewarded with if we make the same mistake in this country that we did where I came from.

    And trust me: It will be excruciatingly painful, because I’ve seen it. I’ve worked it. I’ve lived it.

    I’ll be laughing my fucking arse off as they die on the waiting lists and pick up MRSAs in the open culture Petri dishes that are called “hospitals” under Hell Care. No pity from me. They can all go fucking well fuck themselves, the ADD-addled, barely literate, parasitical, greedy growths that, for some reason unbeknownst to me, have the right to vote.

    Watching them realize the eternal truth of the old saying “careful what you wish for, because you just might get it” will more than make up for the misery that I’ll be dealing with as well, thanks to them. My last gasping breath as I too succumb to the “blessings” of socialist “healthcare” will be:

    “I fucking well told you so, you motherfucking cretins. Should’of listened, now shouldn’t you? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!”

    At least I’ll croak with a smile on my face.

  4. LittleRott84 Comment by LittleRott84

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    In regards to the prescription drug stuff, there are several drug companies that have programs that for so many dollars a month, you get a discount card on prescriptions that are manufactured by them. I see them advertised on TV all the time. Pfizer is a big one.

  5. LC SkyeChild G.L.O.R. Comment by LC SkyeChild G.L.O.R.

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    Don’t hold back, Jackboot. Tell how you REALLY feel. I wonder how many of those “uninsurable” would be willing to give up their beer, ciggies, cell phones, and cable to buy insurance.

  6. LC SkyeChild G.L.O.R. Comment by LC SkyeChild G.L.O.R.

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    LittleRott84,

    The doctor I use sometimes provides free samples (when he can) for people who can’t afford to buy meds.

  7. LC Moriarty Comment by LC Moriarty

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    FWIW… between samples, giveaway programs like Bridges to Access and the infamous Wal-Mart $4 list, there are a fair number of drugs that are either free or affordable.

    (And yes, there are Canadian pharmacies that have — so far — mostly escaped the regulatory interference the FDA, Customs and the Postal Service try to throw into their path.)

  8. LittleRott84 Comment by LittleRott84

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    Misha-

    I’ve dealt with it too. It’s called the military health care system. When I was in basic training and AIT (where you learn how to do your job in the Army), I had to sit in the Troop Medical Clinic for a couple of hours to get a bottle of cough syrup and some Claritin. The only time I got antibiotics was when I had walking pneumonia. Anyone who injured themselves had to wait the same amount of time for Advil. You would only get to see a medic or PA (physician’s assistant), occasionally a nurse, but never a real doctor. I’ve been told that VA hospitals are dumps, too.

  9. LC Moriarty Comment by LC Moriarty

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    Bah… screwed up the Bridges to Access link.

  10. MaxMomFL Comment by MaxMomFL

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    Pocketbook worries outweigh voters’ concerns over war in Iraq

    I’m envisioning Gilda Radner’s Emily Latella, “We must leave Iraq now! It’s the most important issue in voters minds!!! It’s the only important issue. It’s the thing that unifies 103% of the voters. It’s…it’s……”
    Chevy Case: “Uh, Emily, we’re winning.”
    Emily: “winning?…oh….NEVERMIND.”

    Like rats on a sinking political predilection.

  11. The Southern Libertarian Comment by The Southern Libertarian

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    You see, there are some things we can agree upon and yall called me a troll. I agree that I don’t trust democrats to handle to economy. Also, as from my post on a different topic stated that we are doing good things in Iraq, and I hope we continue to help the Iraqi people back on thier feet. However at this time I’m not quite sure we should just hand control back over to the Republicans either. There is a reason why we are doing better on the ground and that is because the we got what we needed from the beggining of the war which is more troops on the ground. Our president was wise to listen to the objections of good men like Sen John McCain that we needed more troops to handle the unrest. Many of my comrades in arms werent too happy with the surge at first, mostly because it caused a great deal of hardship on our part but we stuck with it because it is our sacred duty to do so. I still have objections to the way the war is being handled, because while we are doing our best to win the war my perception is that more needs to be done on the political side or all of our best efforts will be wasted. Also back to the economy, the big question being asked here is “Are the democrats trying to distract the public from the war in Iraq with the economy?” My answer is hell yeah they are, and I cant stand it. When things were going badly thats all i heard about on the news, both when I was in Iraq and stateside. Now that things are looking better there is nothing but dead silence, which is just fine by me because the media can believe whatever the hell they want to, doesn’ change my mission one bit. As for those of you who tried to slander my good name by implying that I am not who I say I am, I say you can also believe whatever the hell you want to believe. I have served honorably as a combat medic for the past seven years and will continue to save lives because that is what I am meant to do. Also if you care at all I am scheduled to return to Iraq next Summer so while you may not agree with some of the things I say at the very least I try serve my country to the utmost of my ability. Also since you brought up the economy I will say this, based on what I have seen from Democrats and Republicans alike on this issue is that neither of them are capable of effectively balancing the budget or the economy. This is one of the issues where I may get some agreement, the reason we are so much debt is because of an entitlement system that we cannot afford and a tax system that is unjust. Thats all I know about the economy personally, but I believe that if you cut out the entitlement systems then you could probably get rid of the IRS and thus hard working citizens would be able to keep thier hard earned money rather than supporting some worthless bum on welfare.( and yall called me a socialist, shame on you)

  12. LC SkyeChild G.L.O.R. Comment by LC SkyeChild G.L.O.R.

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    Southern Libertarian,

    A favor, please? Could you use paragraph breaks now and then?

  13. The Southern Libertarian Comment by The Southern Libertarian

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    While we are on the economy, what do yall think of the fair tax. Just wanted to get some opinions on this, it sounds like a fairly reasonable proposition.
    I have included two links one arguing for the fair tax and one against it.

    http://www.fairtax.org
    http://www.factcheck.org/taxes/unspinning_the_fairtax.html

  14. The Southern Libertarian Comment by The Southern Libertarian

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    Also one thing that I should note from some of thsoe who dont believe I am a true libertarian should research what libertarian means. Basically we believe in individual freedom which also means individual responsibility. To sum it up we are socially liberal for example we believe that gay marriage or the equivelant thereof should be allowed, we believe in ending the war on drugs which has cost billions and gotten no results besides an overcrowded prison system, eliminating the IRS, eliminating entitlements(which havent been to helpful while also driving up inflation which hurts the poor more than helping them), also we are pro choice and pro second amendment rights. It also goes without saying that we respect all of the bill of rights equally and we believe that the constitution should be interprited literally. We are also conservative when it comes to national defense, and we are fiscally conservative. We have typically voted Republican because they have in the past been fiscally conservative and while they have also been socially conservative(something libertarians are at odds with) they havent really started pressing those issues until lately. So in 2008 I would not be surprised to see some third party candidate take a good percentage of the vote.(Another Ross Perot maybe?)

  15. The Southern Libertarian Comment by The Southern Libertarian

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    MISCHA I
    And anybody who as much considers voting for a Socialist Nationalized Hell Care Ponzi Scheme deserves every fucking last second of excruciating agony that they’ll be rewarded with if we make the same mistake in this country that we did where I came from.

    Amen Misca, I know we have had our diffferences, but you just hit the nail right on the head. If anyone thinks that socialized medicine is a good idea they should look no further than the VA to see how badly healcare can get screwed up when the governent gets involved. Do yall really want your healcare given by some government civilian? Trust me you don’t, I’ve seen thier work ethic and its crap.

  16. hilljohnny Comment by hilljohnny

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    Southern Libertarian

    we believe that gay marriage or the equivelant thereof should be allowed,

    marrage like driving a car requires a license from the state. it is a privilege not a right. i believe the whole thing is a plot by divorce lawyers to get more business. also i have so many gay friends i couldn’t afford the wedding presents, best let that lying dog sleep. :em02:

  17. CiSSnarl5.7 Comment by CiSSnarl5.7

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    I’m not so sure this comment will fit this thread, so my apologies ahead of time.

    One thing I am completely disgusted with in the political arena these days is money. The money it takes to become city dog catcher in Podunk Nowhere is insane; let’s not even think about President of the United States.

    Liberals, Democrats, Conservatives, Republicans, all seem to be hell bent on getting thier canidates elected by any and all means, and conversely are spending untold millions of dollars to do so.

    Just think of the money that is being raised on both sides both GOP and DNC. It’s staggering.

    A small time congressman like Ron Paul generated 6 MILLION dollars last week…Obama 20 million, Hillary 30 million, Guliani, 25 million, and every year it’s the same.

    Year in Year out, we’re in a never ending cycle of elections and fundraising for our politicians. And it’s not just for President, members of every office in the land from the highest to Mayor of the smallest town in the Union is on the public dole fundraising and it never fucking stops!!

    How many families would benifit from the 6 million, that 30 million, that 25 million open your eyes and THINK people!!!

    How many schools could be improved, how many firehouses modernized, how many community centers built, how many millions in interest could be generated, how many investments for long term growth and retirment made? The uses for this money that is utterly WASTED on these snake oil peddlers is staggering but here we are doling out billions in contributions to these sorry sacks of skin!

    I’m not buying the whole meme either that this moneyis solely being generated by the rich of America the rich didnt get rich giving thier money to politicians. This is maninstream money, blue collar money being wasted, 25 dollars here, 50 there..it all adds up.

    Think for a second how much better use that money can be put to use with investing, with giving to charity, with improving your homes….Democrats and the Republicans both want us to ante up for the “cooooomon good” Fuck off…take some of those election donations and put it back in the comminuity that got you elected you shit bags!

    Every.Single.Canidiate. in he race for President has declined the public election fund…WHY? Because it’s a joke to them, it’s not even worthy of consideration when they have billions in funds pouring in from every quarter of the population.

    When in the hell is the American population going to wake the hell up and stop this madness? Not only are we taxed way beyond any reasonable measure to support the ever growing government we waste BILLIONS on getting these people elected, only so they can turn right around and hit us again with higher taxes!

    Far as I am concerned not one dime to either side, and keep taxing me …go ahead, because at one point I say no more and I come out fighting. ….It’s far past time for the reset button to be pushed.

    Again apologies ahead of time, Misha got me thinking about this and it just sort of hit home that here we are in yet another endless election cycle, money pouring out to these people like Niagra Falls, and all the while they want us to cough up more of our earnings via higher taxes, and government growth…enough. already!

  18. hilljohnny Comment by hilljohnny

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    CiSSnarl5.7 on the plus side the money is spent in the U.S. which stimulates business, business buys more stuff to sell to the politcians, people are hired to make the stuff and so on. plus when they go out and actually buy votes it benifits the most needy in society, the winos, druggies and the mentally deficient. :em93:

  19. The Southern Libertarian Comment by The Southern Libertarian

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    HillJohnny

    also i have so many gay friends i couldn’t afford the wedding presents, best let that lying dog sleep.

    Probably the funniest argument against gay marriage ever. While I disagree with you, I respect your right(not privilege) to have that opinion. I also disagree with the notion you you either have to be totally conservative or totally liberal. I also find it interesting that in a post where we could have had so much common ground you chose one thing you disagreed with and only commented on that. Surely we have some common ground? Although I must say I appreciate your sense of humor it is rather lacking these days in our political forums.

  20. Xystus Comment by Xystus

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    Every.Single.Canidiate. in he race for President has declined the public election fund…WHY? Because it’s a joke to them, it’s not even worthy of consideration when they have billions in funds pouring in from every quarter of the population.

    More likely it’s because public money comes with limits. Yet the amount of $$$ spent on US politics in a given period is often said to be comparable with what we pay for potato chips in the same interval.

  21. hilljohnny Comment by hilljohnny

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    Southern Libertarian

    I also disagree with the notion you you either have to be totally conservative or totally liberal.

    the best answer i can come up with is; i am a libertarian. but We ( me and my tapeworm ) do not agree with every plank in the platform, just 90% of it. i actually have no dog in the gay marrage fight, i was remembering a “non sequitur” comic strip about gay marrage and my sense of humor is one of the few thing that still work right. :em69:

  22. CiSSnarl5.7 Comment by CiSSnarl5.7

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    More likely it’s because public money comes with limits. Yet the amount of $$$ spent on US politics in a given period is often said to be comparable with what we pay for potato chips in the same interval.

    Fine…Then buy more Potato Chips, Doritos, Pringles, I don’t give a shit but QUIT giving these parasites money!

    And said by whom? The MSM? The political hacks themselves?

    Secondly who cares? The point I’m making is 30 MILLION dollars to candiate x is still 30 MILLION dollars that could of gone to a much better use then some grandstanding snake oil peddler with an agenda.

  23. L.C. Mope, Imperial Offsetter Comment by L.C. Mope, Imperial Offsetter

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    The Democratic edge on such issues illustrates the predicament Republicans face going into a presidential election. Iraq doesn’t dominate the news as it used to, replaced by headlines about slumping home sales, high gasoline prices and a credit crunch.

    Thug-ster,

    Since it is evident the author couldn’t be implying the battle for Iraq was helping Republican candidates, the only thing I can infer is the author is admitting ‘the democratic edge’ comes from the new headlines. Thus, this author is admitting the newspapers are the mouthpiece of the DNC.

    Similarly, the Grand Poobahs of the Glowbull Wormening admitted in Bali they wanted a Global tax for “Climate Change”.

    I dunno, maybe it’s because they are rewarded so often for failing, democrats have decided that their failure to win Iraq for al Queda will somehow translate into victory at the polls.

    It’s crazy logic, but hey, logic was never their strong suit.

  24. Unregistered Comment by Anthony L.

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    Secondly who cares? The point I’m making is 30 MILLION dollars to candiate x is still 30 MILLION dollars that could of gone to a much better use then some grandstanding snake oil peddler with an agenda.

    Agreed about the snake oil peddler part, but who, exactally, will determine where this new found gold mine will be spent? On top of that, are you saying I cannot spend the money I have earned on what I choose? Lemme guess, a McCain supporter…

  25. CiSSnarl5.7 Comment by CiSSnarl5.7

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    Agreed about the snake oil peddler part, but who, exactally, will determine where this new found gold mine will be spent? On top of that, are you saying I cannot spend the money I have earned on what I choose? Lemme guess, a McCain supporter…

    Not even close. Mcain blew his wad with Shamnesty and the kinder gentler approach to the handleing of terrorists. Far as I’m concerned pull their testicals out through thier nostriles with double shank hooks and barbed wire if they have information.

    Read the post it says nothing about what to do with that money and that is for a very good reason, no-one should dictate what we as a free people should spend our money on, period.

    For over half this countrie’s history there was no Federal Income tax and we got along just dandy, innovation was at all time high’s & prouduction flourished, but long about 1920 when the governement got their dick skinners into our wallets things headed south.

    Then there’s “depressions”, and “recessions”, and almost a 100 years later we’re slipping ever onward to a socialist nightmare where the productive, myself, hopefully you, and others are having our backs broken with never ending taxation and government intrustion into our lives.
    And before you say well it’s taxation with representation ….No Virgina there is no representation, if there was would not one think approval ratings would be higher?

    These snake charmers are selling us a bad bill of goods and we are “stuuck on stoopid” enough to swallow it… hook, line, and sinker.

    As far as who controls that money, no one because there is no money for them to control…we the people control that money. Market forces have and always will suffice to keep the “poor and downtrodden” from starving, welfare obviously doesn’t work.
    Again people got on just fine in the US for years and years before taxes and before FDR and his fucking socilalistic shell games called the “New Deal” and then the rest of the politicians started bellying up to the public trough to line thier pockets.

  26. Unregistered Comment by Lord Spatula I, King & Tyrant

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    You see, there are some things we can agree upon and yall called me a troll.

    Well, just from looking at your first few messages, it looks to me as if you were called a troll because you generally came in here and acted like an asshole.

    Now, being the army guy you claim to be, I’m sure you didn’t act like the hottest shit on the planet your first day out of Basic and in the new platoon, now did you? So it is here - it’s Misha’s personal property, and the regulars here have pretty much “earned their stripes”, as it were. Coming in here thinking that you’re all that & a bag of chips (even if you have served in Iraq) isn’t going to earn you many brownie points.

    So if you don’t want to be labelled a troll, show a little more respect to everyone here.

    Oh, and keep your snark about our “titles” to yourself. They’re one of our ways of having fun here, and we tend not to look kindly on those who would piss in our Cheerios like that.

  27. LC HOGHEAD II Comment by LC HOGHEAD II

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    It makes me furious when the politicians blame the banks for the subprime mortgage “crisis”. The so called crisis was caused by congress passing laws accusing banks of redlining, and discriminating against poor borrowers. So to keep the government monkey off their back, banks started making subprime loans, and the masses ate them up, whether they could afford them or not. your take dollars at work.

  28. LC HOGHEAD II Comment by LC HOGHEAD II

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    tax dollars

  29. Unregistered Comment by Cheryl

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    Voters say they are far more likely to trust Democrats to handle the economy and health care.

    :em01: :em99: :em95: :em98:

    WHU_U_U_U_U_T THE F**K????!!!

    Damn! Jackboot! The top of my poor head flew off on that one; I can’t reach the ceiling; and my brain is freezing! Now who conducted THAT poll? Nan “Stretch” Lugosi, Joe “Some May Call Me A Traitor” Kennedy, and Harry “The Body” Reid?”

    And how did the MSM switch from 1st to 3rd gear so quickly?

    If ya don’t have the money to pay for a home, don’t try to buy one. No one in this country is automatically entitled to home ownership. Stop sniveling. Too bloody farkin’ bad if you can’t afford a house. I rent my apt. That’s life!

  30. hilljohnny Comment by hilljohnny

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    and we tend not to look kindly on those who would piss in our Cheerios like that.

    yeah, thats DJ’s job. :em95: