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Just go read this. Here’s a snippet, but don’t miss any of it:

So, where does Gore buy his ‘carbon offsets’? According to The Tennessean newspaper’s report, Gore buys his carbon offsets through Generation Investment Management. a company he co-founded and serves as chairman:

Gore helped found Generation Investment Management, through which he and others pay for offsets. The firm invests the money in solar, wind and other projects that reduce energy consumption around the globe…

As co-founder and chairman of the firm Gore presumably draws an income or will make money as its investments prosper. In other words, he “buys” his “carbon offsets” from himself, through a transaction designed to boost his own investments and return a profit to himself.

This would be outrageous, if it wasn’t for the hysterically funny fact that you have thousands of swooning Goresciples having multiple Goregasms every time that two-bit shyster opens his big, fat pie hole.

Prokaryotes didn’t evolve at all, they just put on jeans and started referring to themselves as “progressives.”

62 Responses to “As Scamsters Go, the Goreacle Can’t Be Beat”
  1. DдrтH бдкфи Comment by DдrтH бдкфи

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    First!

    You’ve been watchin Tim Kazurinsky, haven’t you?

  2. Emperor Misha I Comment by Emperor Misha I

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    Who the heck is Tim Kazurinsky, and is that a compliment or an insult?

  3. Unregistered Comment by Lord Spatula I, King & Tyrant

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    Tim Kazurinsky:  Mildly amusing Saturday Night Live ensemble player.

    “Mildly amusing”, of course, being a generous assessment.

  4. Unregistered Comment by DukeFenton

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    So, he’s basically not only buying indulgences, he’s buying them from himself. Given that the ‘offsets’ are presumably deductible, isn’t that a form of tax fraud?

  5. Unregistered Comment by DukeFenton

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    Sorry for the double post, but I recall a scheme in place here and there that allows ‘dirty’ power plants to continue operating by purchasing ‘pollution credits’ from newer and cleaner facilities. The eco-nuts don’t seem to like that idea very much when their fearless leader isn’t profiting from it - see, for example
    http://www.social-ecology.org/article.php?story=20031202111003557

    Someone suggested a ‘Gore Diet’ in which you can claim to lose weight by buying ‘calorie credits’ from some skinny vegetarian…

  6. LC JackBoot IC/A-OBR Comment by LC JackBoot IC/A-OBR

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    I knew guy back in the day that had a bad case of Kazurinsky, I think it took three penicillin injections to cure it.

    wind and other projects that

    Wind and project in the context of anything Gore is just too farkin’ funny.

  7. LC HJ Caveman82952 Comment by LC HJ Caveman82952

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    Why does this remind me of Jesse Jackson and his schemes?

  8. Brian the sailor Comment by Brian the sailor

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    You said, “just go read this,” so I went there and he had a link that said “read the whole thing.”

    What is it with you bloggers? You think we have attention spans or something?

    Screw it, I’m going back to reruns of Scrubs.

    Oh, if anyone has any clue to the answer, Ann Coulter posted an interesting quandry. How long would it take for a windmill to produce enough energy to make a windmill? You’ve gotta admit, it’s a damn good question.

  9. Beeblebrox Comment by Beeblebrox

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    The whole “carbon offsets” thing is laughable on its face anyway. It is a Ponzi scheme of a sort. It’s kind of like buying “green energy”, as if there was some separate grid. A grid that carried just pristine power, uncontaminated by all that “dirty” power produced from hydro (kills fish), natural gas (emits massive amounts of C02), solar (uses massive amounts of land and resources to produce anything useful), wind (kills birds, makes noise, blocks view of New England Liberal Elites), biomass (yet more C02 problems), coal (releases more uranium laced pollution into the atmosphere than even a malfunctioning nuke plant), oil (need we list the evils of this fuel), or nuclear.

    Oh wait a second, nuclear is the only practical power source that is truly green. But does Al Gore promote it? Not likely.

  10. LC Mrs. M Comment by LC Mrs. M

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    This whole carbon credits scam would be ass bustingly hilarious if not for the fact that there are a few million Cranial/Rectal Impaction Sufferers out there that totally believe every drop of shit that comes out of this Bat Fastards mouth.

    What’s worse is that they get to vote! :wallbash_tb:

  11. Unregistered Comment by cas

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    Hi Emperor,
    It may be a “big fat pie-hole” but it looks more and more likely that the crusade he has been on for so many years to raise awareness about global warming has succeeded. And that the consensus about global warming has been established…

  12. Unregistered Comment by Mr.Krinkle

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    You really oughta read Iowahawk’s spoof on this whole carbon football thing.

    A taste:

    Repent, Sinners!
    Earn Eco-Salvation the Quick and Easy Iowahawk Way

    Are you concerned that your profligate personal lifestyle is harming the environment? Losing sleep over the long-term ecological damage resulting from those greenhouse gases constantly emitted by your family, your cars, your pets, and your shrubbery? Do you want to become carbon-neutral, but just don’t know how?

    More at his place… :lol_wp:

  13. Emperor Misha I Comment by Emperor Misha I

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    And that the consensus about global warming has been established…

    Not hardly, although a fair number of inhabitants of the loser side of the Bell Curve are swallowing it hook, line and sinker.

  14. Unregistered Comment by Infidel River Rat

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    Question: If Al Bore was walking through the forest by himself, and he tripped and fell, would he make a noise when he hit the ground? :lol_wp: :doh_tb: :lol_tb: And that fungus-brained idiot, along with his idiot hollywack myrmidons, indulge in traveling via private chartered aircraft and limousines escorted by armed convoys to tell us to ride bicycles and use mass transit, what a bunch of mega-muddafuckin’ stalinist hypocrites!! :flush_tb: :nono_tb: :thumbdown_tb: :rolleyes_wp:

  15. Unregistered Comment by Montana Infidel

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    If we all don’t STOP MANBEARPIG! and buy “carbon offsets then the Goracle can’t get fatter, I mean richer.

    I’m cereal!!!

  16. memoryleak Comment by memoryleak

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    Grrr, the more I read about these lefty double talking loonies the more ammo I buy so I can go practice some lead slinging therapy at a range!. Unfortunately due to glow-bull warming, this past month was the coldest it’s been around these parts for the last 30 years (6F below average); BUT MOTHER GAIA IS WARMER BY 0.6C IN THE LAST 100 YEARS!. The 6″ thick iceberg that was my carport has finally been cut up and sent north to save the drowning polar bears. Guess I can call the range officer (er, my therapist) and let him know I can finally come in for treatment!.
    :guns_tb:

  17. Unregistered Comment by TC

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    The Grid!

    Ya gotta love that one right off the top. The grid is like placing public and private money into the same bucket. The only thing lost is accountability and specifically for the public funds. Like the Smithsonian for example.

    What Gore is doing is handing out tax deductible money to a tax exempt foundation/business which he is the trustee of. BTW that equates to ownership/control/private fund to do with as he pleases.

    But just another example of taxpayer supported fraud and you can select any one of the 535 members of congress and those around them all do the same! They DO NOT pay taxes on their REAL earnings. They funnel them to the foundations that are required to only put back 5% of their annual gross income toward some contribution or serviceable arena. Could be toward the private jets he uses!

    But hey, congress has paved the way for all of us to only have a 5% tax burden, get on board and git on right!

  18. vilmar Comment by vilmar

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    Let me get this right. If you want to pollute, you can continue to do so to your heart’s content so long as you buy “offsets.”

    So if we take this to its extreme, if I make contributions to MADD will I be able to continue to drive drunk? If I contribute to some drug rehab center, will I be allowed to continue to take drugs? If I contribute to some womens’ rights groups will I continue to be a sexual predator?

    After all, that’s what carbon offsets allow insofar as “pollution” is concerned.

    If this trend continues, very soon, should you not be able to afford to buy them, you won’t be able to operate a lawn mower, drive a car, run lights in your house. IOW: a huge tax.

    More class warfare and a continued guarantee for the existence of the Democrat party…..to fight class warfare. You gotta love the strategy they’ve employed here.

  19. juandos Comment by juandos

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    CAS says:

    And that the consensus about global warming has been established…

    Hey CAS, I know you’ve quoted this, “form statement” that I’ve also seen printed in various but clueless newspapers and journals…

    What’s truly hilarious about that particular statement is that scientific fact isn’t reached by, “consensus” but by the method of repeated testing and coming up with identical results…

    If there is any indicator at all that these global warming chicken littles don’t have science on their side its that word consensus…

    Professor Bob Carter of the Marine Geophysical Laboratory at James Cook University, in Australia gives what, for many Canadians, is a surprising assessment: “Gore’s circumstantial arguments are so weak that they are pathetic. It is simply incredible that they, and his film, are commanding public attention.”

    But surely Carter is merely part of what most people regard as a tiny cadre of “climate change skeptics” who disagree with the “vast majority of scientists” Gore cites?

    No; Carter is one of hundreds of highly qualified non-governmental, non-industry, non-lobby group climate experts who contest the hypothesis that human emissions of carbon dioxide (CO2) are causing significant global climate change. “Climate experts” is the operative term here. Why? Because what Gore’s “majority of scientists” think is immaterial when only a very small fraction of them actually work in the climate field.

  20. DдrтH бдкфи Comment by DдrтH бдкфи

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    Kazurinsky did a news bit about different types of orgasms…

    Tennis players have (dated reference to be lost on younger audience) Bjorn Borgasms…

    Car buffs have “four on the floor-gasms”…

    Newlyweds have “Let’s do it till we’re sore-gasms”, which quickly give way to “I got mine, you get your-gasms”…

    Your reference to Goregasms was whatmade me think of it.

  21. juandos Comment by juandos

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    LC Mrs. M says:

    This whole carbon credits scam would be ass bustingly hilarious if not for the fact that there are a few million Cranial/Rectal Impaction Sufferers out there that totally believe every drop of shit that comes out of this Bat Fastards mouth

    Here’s the perfect example that whole, “Cranial/Rectal Impaction Sufferers” thingie: Robert F. Kennedy Jr. says: “Eighty percent of Republicans are just Democrats who don’t know what’s going on

    What a tool!… :lol_wp:

  22. Unregistered Comment by LC + IB Gutshot

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    So where are all of the people crying Halliburton, now that Al-gore-jizm is trying to line his own pockets? I know, it’s because he hasn’t tapped the endless supply of gold called the Social Security Trust Fund Congressional Budget.

    Of course, if he becomes President, then you know that GIM(py) will be named the US Congress Officially Sanctioned Company for purchasing Gore’s Retirement Mansion carbon credits.

  23. juandos Comment by juandos

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    LC + IB Gutshot says:

    So where are all of the people crying Halliburton, now that Al-gore-jizm is trying to line his own pockets?

    You mean this Halliburton? For example, Vice President Al Gore’s National Performance Review mentioned Halliburton’s performance in its Report on Reinventing the Department of Defense, issued in September 1996. In a section titled “Outsourcing of Logistics Allows Combat Troops to Stick to Basics,” Gore’s reinventing-government team favorably mentioned LOGCAP, the cost-plus-award system, and Brown & Root, which the report said provided “basic life support services — food, water, sanitation, shelter, and laundry; and the full realm of logistics services — transportation, electrical, hazardous materials collection and disposal, fuel delivery, airfield and seaport operations, and road maintenance.”

    Thank you Byron York…

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    If I contribute to some womens’ rights groups will I continue to be a sexual predator?

    Hey, if you contribute enough you can even get to be president…

  25. Unregistered Pingback by Inoperable Terran » Easy money

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    […] Gore is buying “carbon credits” from a company he founded and runs. Brilliant. Posted by Ian S. […]

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    So if algore has his way, we will all be buying carbon offsets and with the snap of a dems fingers in congress, we would all be buying them from algore.

    In the real world this is called a SCAM

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    Gore says Media Too Balanced, Miss Climate Message…

    we always knew he was a totalitarian

    debate? hah
    contrary opinions?
    it’s unethical to report both sides of this theory, dammit

  28. Kristopher Comment by Kristopher

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    Not only are they buying Gaian Indulgences … but they are cheating their suckers as well.

    A CER cost 40 euros per metric ton last year. Currently, with all of the third world thugs now on the bandwagon, A CER costs around 13 euros per metric ton.

    They are selling indulgences for US$10 per metric ton.

  29. LC Moriarty Comment by LC Moriarty

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    It may be a “big fat pie-hole” but it looks more and more likely that the crusade he has been on for so many years to raise awareness about global warming has succeeded.

    Which begs the question, “So what?” Aside from creating the same hysteria present when I was a kid (in my case, over “The Population Explosion”) he hasn’t accomplished much of anything. Unless everyone is willing to adopt a standard of living with massively higher energy costs, Gore’s chatter means very little.

    The price of everything we buy, consume or produce hinges heavily on the energy costs involved. Aside from nuclear, as Beeblebrox points out, there isn’t a “carbon neutral” source of energy that’s practical for producing the vast (and I mean vast) amounts of energy we need to support our economy and standard of living.

    The whole “live simply so others may simply live” line is a load of crap and not a solution. Much of the world is alive because of our surplus in food and exports of medicine and technology. If our standard of living declines, theirs will also, and dramatically. It’s all well and good to long for an 1800s, neoVictorinan, low carbon, simple life — until you have to start burying your kids because they died of preventable diseases and you couldn’t afford the medications or vaccines.

    Gore’s a fraud and has been for decades. Anyone who listens to him gets what they deserve.

  30. DJ Allyn,  ITW Comment by DJ Allyn, ITW

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    I thought you were into capatalism. Would it make you feel any better if he bought his credits from another of the hundreds of companies that have sprung up?

    Not that I am a proponent of carbon credits. It seems to be a lot like a shell game.

    Yes, Gore uses electricity — more than the average person. But much of his usage is offset by the use of solar panels — which is a lot more than most other people in this country are doing.

    Private jets? Sure, when he was still VP. But he mostly takes commercial flights now — you know, planes that are already going to the destination and so he is not using all that fuel exclusively. (Hannity, the one pointing out all of this can’t make that claim himself)

  31. Emperor Misha I Comment by Emperor Misha I

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    I thought you were into capatalism. Would it make you feel any better if he bought his credits from another of the hundreds of companies that have sprung up?

    Oh, I’m a big fan of capitalism.

    Which is why I’m in such awe of him not merely buying worthless, insignificant indulgences that don’t change anything, he’s actually brilliant enough to buy them from HIMSELF.

    Awe, I tell you, complete awe.

    That guy makes Ponzi look like a piker.

  32. JanetMae Comment by JanetMae

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    (Hannity, the one pointing out all of this can’t make that claim himself)

    Hannity isn’t the one telling other people, “do as I say, and not as I do.”

    Minor little detail, there.

  33. MasterGuns Comment by MasterGuns

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    DJ sez:

    “But much of his usage is offset by the use of solar panels ”

    The only problem I can see, is that HE IS USING ALL THOSE KILOWATTS AND HE HAS SOLAR PANELS. The power he is using is IN ADDITION to what he gets from solar. Personally, I don’t give 2 hoots how much power he uses as long as he pays for it. I despise his hypocritical spewings. I will give him credit for a great scam though.

    Semper Fi

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    I have a hard time believing that Gore has enough solar panels to offset over $30k of electricity and $10k of natural gas per year.
    Normally when you install solar panels (and/or windmills) and a power converter, a special power meter is installed so that you are only charged for the power consumed, and are credited for the power produced by your setup that is sent back into the grid. I know quite a few people who have done that, running evenly across the left-right spectrum.
    If he pays to have ‘green’ power instead, that is another scam. The power companies do not disconnect alternative power sources if the ‘green’ consumers are not enough - the money for these has already been spent, after all. If there are more ‘green’ power demand than supply, the power company doesn’t black them out, either. ‘Green’ power is one step above indulgences, I mean carbon offsets, in that it does encourage power companies to invest money in those methods of power production, but it is only a small step above.

  35. Unregistered Comment by Lord Spatula I, King & Tyrant

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    Hannity isn’t the one telling other people, “do as I say, and not as I do.”

    Minor little detail, there.

    Damn, beaten to the punch again. 

  36. Cheapshot911 Comment by Cheapshot911

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    Yes, Gore uses electricity —

    Yep, compare that mansion’s buzz-bill with the one for the Prez’s ranchouse, even them bulbs down in the barn.
    It’d be like comparing a leaky faucet with a busted hydrant.

    Gore’s a shameless thrill-shiller.
    ‘Not even good at window-dressing or punchline delivery.

    There’s them that hype it, and them that live it.
    Gorebot’s squarely in group A.

  37. Cheapshot911 Comment by Cheapshot911

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    (Hannity, the one pointing out all of this can’t make that claim himself)

    Hannity is not running for office. Strictly private sector.
    Doesn’t NEED to make the claim, but it’s good he’s showing the nation the hypocrisy of one who would be their leader.

  38. Unregistered Comment by LC Staci GBOR

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    Boy, he really is trying to seal his legacy. Hahahahaha

    I thought he would stop when he invented the internet!

    :jittery_tb:

  39. Beeblebrox Comment by Beeblebrox

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    Doesn’t NEED to make the claim, but it’s good he’s showing the nation the hypocrisy of one who would be their leader.

    I think this hits the nub of the issue squarely. There are straight shooting guys out there promoting the enviro/green/carbon footprint nonsense like Ed Begly Jr. but honestly, I rather admire Ed. He walks the walk from what I hear. IOW, he is not a limousine lib.

    Gore had two major strikes against him: he is a hypocrite, he is promoting a scheme that will cost ME money, he is wrong about the science — THREE, 3 strikes against him: he is a hypocrite, he is promoting a scheme that will cost me money, he is wrong about the science, he is fat. FOUR, 4 strikes against him. Let me start again…

  40. ohio right wing nut Comment by ohio right wing nut

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    Will the Gorebot pay me to ride my bike to work everyday? I mean its only 3 blocks but i sure do enjoy firing up my gas guzzling Ford Contour every day. :ponder_tb: or during the summer my 450 HP 76 Monte Carlo that get about 7 gallons to the mile and frightens little children.( Except for my baseball team they rather seem to enjoy it. They can here me coming 4 blocks away) :clap_tb:

  41. MasterGuns Comment by MasterGuns

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    “450 HP 76 Monte Carlo ”

    Ahhhhhhh…..my kind of car.

    Semper Fi

  42. DJ Allyn,  ITW Comment by DJ Allyn, ITW

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    Hannity isn’t the one telling other people, “do as I say, and not as I do.”

    Minor little detail, there.

    Not so small a detail that Hannity insists on reporting Gore’s use of a Gulfstream during his VP tenure as if he is currently doing so.

    Gore usually flies commercial now — something that Hannity tends to ignore.

    The power he is using is IN ADDITION to what he gets from solar.

    First, so what? Second, he is reducing his need for power from the grid by using solar technology. There would be real hypocrisy if Gore wasn’t reducing his carbon-based electrical usage by at least a certain percentage.

    Sure, ideally it would be great for him to be using 100 percent solar power, but currently the technology isn’t feasable. But he is doing more than many of the rest of us right now.

    If he pays to have ‘green’ power instead, that is another scam.

    I don’t think I totally disagree with you on that. The concept — on paper — might have a certain appeal, but in the reality of execution I tend to think that it simply acts as a justification to use as much energy as you want as long as you “pay” for it.

    From what I understand these “credits” to be is that a group of entities measure their carbon emissions in “units” and bank them with a holding company such as Gore’s Generation Investment Management company. Then, if you want to use a certain number of units or credits, you buy them from Generation Investment Management — if any are still available. Like I said, it looks plausable on paper, where it gives you the impression that these kinds of things are finite, but I think that there is a lot of wiggle-room involved that when put into actual practice it is not all that effective. (not to mention the possibility of fraud and abuse)

    I think the bigger picture that is being ignored here is the fact that whether there is global warming or not, producing cleaner energy is a good thing, and at the very least, Al Gore is making people talk about it.

    Hannity is not running for office.

    Neither is Gore at the moment, and so far he has come out to say that he isn’t. Of course that doesn’t mean he won’t change his mind, but he has come out specifically to say that he isn’t.

    Besides, he is making much more money in the private sector doing what he is currently doing than he could ever make in public office.

  43. Beeblebrox Comment by Beeblebrox

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    Besides, he is making much more money in the private sector doing what he is currently doing than he could ever make in public office.

    Gore is a multi-millionaire megalomaniacal hypocrite. You know it DJ, I know it, we all know it. And since when does a guy like Gore care whether he is making 10 million a year or 5 million if the presidency that was stolen from him by the SCOTUS is beckoning?

    By they way DJ, you do realize that solar has a HUGE carbon footprint. It’s just that it is not measured until after the panels are installed. If we consider the damage to the environment that was done in the MANUFACTURER of those panels, I think we could safely say that Gore is not only a huge user of power but that the power he is using is no more green than anyone else’s.

  44. juandos Comment by juandos

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    DJ says:

    Gore usually flies commercial now — something that Hannity tends to ignore

    And you know this how DJ?

    Surely not the New York Whine?!?!

    But he is doing more than many of the rest of us right now

    Proving yet again the SUPREME GORON is a fool but obviously not quite the fool his philosophical supporters are…

    From what I understand these “credits” to be is that a group of entities measure their carbon emissions in “units” and bank them with a holding company such as Gore’s Generation Investment Management company

    Hmmm, Misha was right as ususal, this makes Ponzi look like a piker…

    I’m betting anyone can get into carbon offsets business since there is no overriding authority… Sell them on E-Bay…

    Bill Hobbs nails it: “In other words, he “buys” his “carbon offsets” from himself, through a transaction designed to boost his own investments and return a profit to himself. To be blunt, Gore doesn’t buy “carbon offsets” through Generation Investment Management - he buys stocks.

    producing cleaner energy is a good thing

    According to whom?

    Define, “cleaner energy”…

  45. Beeblebrox Comment by Beeblebrox

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    producing cleaner energy is a good thing

    A glittering jewell of scientific illiteracy on display for all to see.

    Forgive me DJ but you do realize that C02 is not a pollutant don’t you? In fact, it is about as benign as it gets. The worst effect it has on the plant is maybe that you are exhaling it RIGHT NOW.

    Furthermore, according to Houghton, Callendar, and Varney, (Climate Change 1992: The Supplementary Report to the IPCC Scientific Assessment. Press Syndicate of the University of Cambridge, Cambridge, England (”IPCC 1992″), p. 56.):

    “…carbon dioxide with anthropogenic (human) origins compromise only a small part of the greenhouse gases appearing in the atmosphere. In the first place, as stated, carbon dioxide is by no means the only anthropogenically emitted greenhouse gas. Other greenhouse gases emitted by man include methane, nitrogen oxides and chlorofluorocarbons, each of which has far greater heat trapping capacity per molecule than carbon dioxide.”

    And more importantly, DJ, the primary greenhouse gas in our atmosphere is something much more dangerous:

    “Similarly, anthropogenically emitted greenhouse gases contribute only a minuscule amount of the greenhouse gases occurring in the troposphere. Water vapor occurring naturally in the atmosphere is the main greenhouse gas, contributing about 98% of the greenhouse effect.”
    (CD Ahrens, 1985. Meteorology Today. West Publishing Co., St. Paul, Minnesota, pp. 18-19.)

  46. Unregistered Comment by cas

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    Hi all,
    The idea of offsets makes good economic sense. Its a nascent market, so it still has to find its feet. If the money just goes to someone’s pocket, well–that is not so good, but it doesn’t change the fundamental issue of what paying offsets does–namely, make people start to pay the full cost of their use of greenhose gases. The issue of pollution is simply that people are not paying the FULL COST of their use of something–a car, a plane ride, whatever. Making people pay it, means that society pays the full marginal social cost of the activity, not the marginal private cost. What does that mean–without offsets, we pay less than we should and we consume more than we should. Paying the offsets lowers consumption to the socially optimal level. If the offset money is actually dispensed to folks developing alternative energy sources and more efficient energy uers than all the better. If Gore’s company does it ir some other company–its not relevant unless you can point to above normal rates of inefficiency in Gore’s company’s use of the money. If there is, than you have a valid point.

  47. DJ Allyn,  ITW Comment by DJ Allyn, ITW

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    And you know this how DJ?

    Okay, let’s think this backwards, shall we? You know he doesn’t fly commercial, how?

    But, to humor you, I was recently on a commercial flight that Gore was on. Then there are the numerous accounts of him traveling commercial.

    Sure, there have been times when Gore has flown privately, but not all that often. Hell, I have flown privately more often than he has.

    Proving yet again the SUPREME GORON is a fool but obviously not quite the fool his philosophical supporters are…

    Whereas this statement proves absolutely nothing.

    Hmmm, Misha was right as ususal, this makes Ponzi look like a piker…

    Perhaps you didn’t notice that I had a degree of skeptism with the whole concept of carbon credits? Whether that makes Gore like Ponzi — I doubt it. I see the potential for abuse, but I don’t think that Gore is purposely going out to be dishonest about it himself, regardless of how much you dislike the guy.

    According to whom?

    Define, “cleaner energy”…

    Are you daft, or are you just purposely being a contrarian?

    If we can develop a cleaner source of energy that doesn’t rely on a dwindling supply of fosil fuel that another country can hold over our heads then how can you be against it? Be honest, if it weren’t for the oil in the Middle East, we wouldn’t think twice about that region. They would forever be stuck in the seventh century and we could care less.

    Granted, developing alternative energy sources will be costly at first — but far less costly now than if we have to wait until we reach the time when we are forced to move to another source for any reason.

    Personally, I can’t say if Gore is right or wrong on the issue of global warming or climate change. But the one thing he is doing is getting people to talk about it and explore different solutions.

    Forgive me DJ but you do realize that C02 is not a pollutant don’t you? In fact, it is about as benign as it gets. The worst effect it has on the plant is maybe that you are exhaling it RIGHT NOW.

    Too much oxygen will kill you also. It’s about balance, not whether any particular gas is benign or not. But hey, you could simply Google the effects of CO2 to see how wrong your statement is on its face. (But you knew that)

  48. Unregistered Comment by tweell

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    Ed Begley has been walking the walk for years now - unlike VP Gore. I’ll listen to an honest person, even if I think they are misguided. I won’t listen to a hypocrite.
    In California, putting up solar is becoming good economic sense. Arizona is capping their plants built to sell power to the NIMBY folks, we don’t have the cooling water available. Power in California is costly and shown to be unreliable.
    I have an acquaintance who does solar installations in California for a living, and he has months of backlog. He also drives a hybrid truck - it powers his compressor and tools without costing more money.
    Make it economic, make it sensible, and wingnuts like me will be doing it.
    I’d venture to say that there are more wingnuts with alternative power setups than moonbats. That stuff is cheaper than paying the electric company to pull cable when you live out in the sticks, after all, and there aren’t many ‘red’ rural areas.

  49. LC Guido Cabrone Comment by LC Guido Cabrone

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    and there aren’t many ‘red’ rural areas.

    You mean, “blue”, right, Tweell? (Well, depending on how you slice it, of course…)

  50. Unregistered Comment by peterobinson

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    Just kickin’[things around in the empty vastness between my ears…

    Anthropogenic CO2 emissions are not yet proven to be damaging.
    It’s even been noted that higher levels of CO2 are beneficial to the agrarian industries.

    Soooo…. when are they going to start talking about possibly paying us to use enough carbon based/generated energy?

  51. Beeblebrox Comment by Beeblebrox

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    CAS stated:

    make people start to pay the full cost of their use of greenhose gases.

    I think you mean pay for the cost of producing “greenhose” (I think you mean greenhouse but that is kind of a funny typo) gases, right?

    CAS, there is no cost to anyone for the production of greenhouse gases. The so called “greenhouse gases” are beneficial and actually a higher concentration of C02 in the atmosphere would not harm us and would actually be extremely beneficial to the rain forests.

    You, DJ, and the host of others defending this hoax neither seem to understand the science nor the math on this issue.

    Briefly, 98% of all greenhouse gases (and even the term “greenhouse” is scientifically incorrect so I hesitate to use it but for purposes of debate I will) is WATER VAPOR. Of the remaining 2% only a portion is C02. Of that, it is unknown as to how much is produced by humans. If you want to understand the “greenhouse” gas issue more mosey on over to junkscience.com for the science. Without this understanding, you will simply be unable to hold your own in the conversation. Nevertheless, you post was cordial and reasonable, so thanks.

  52. Kristopher Comment by Kristopher

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    All of the human activity on this planet produces a small fraction of the emissions of one volcano.

    If one volcano stops erupting, we all get free CER “credits”.

  53. Emperor Misha I Comment by Emperor Misha I

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    make people start to pay the full cost of their use of greenhose gases.

    Sorry, Cas, but that’s not how it works. In order for you to have an argument about people “paying the full cost” for something, you first have to prove that there is such a cost.

    You don’t get to simply postulate that there is one, then demand that everybody pay it.

    Oh, and as to the “dwindling supply of fossil fuels”, DJ, you don’t get to state that as fact either, particularly not since we now have more known reserves than we had 40 years ago. You see, we’ve yet to fully explore even 10% of the planet and, as we explore, we keep finding more of the sticky black stuff.

    That’s not to say that I wouldn’t welcome new and cleaner energy sources, because I would (incidentally, we already have one, it’s called nuclear energy, but for some reason the ecofreaks aren’t too thrilled about that. Possibly because it actually works), but I’m not about to pay through the nose for a replacement that I don’t need.

    I’m sure that somebody in the energy industry will come up with a replacement that is cleaner and cheaper than what we have, they’re researching it even as we speak and have been for decades (just imagine how stinking, filthy rich whoever comes up with it first will be), and when that happens, I’ll switch faster than you can say “carbon offset”, for the very simple reason that I love saving a buck.

    Oh, and a side issue: I don’t mind hybrids (in spite of the fact that they’re not exactly cost-efficient yet, but I’m sure they’ll get there eventually), but would somebody, for the love of G-D, please design one that doesn’t look like a shoe box with wheels or something that I might hallucinate about if I were to drop some brown acid?

    Surely, it doesn’t have to be butt-fucking ugly to be “environmentally conscious?”

  54. Beeblebrox Comment by Beeblebrox

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    If we can develop a cleaner source of energy that doesn’t rely on a dwindling supply of fosil fuel that another country can hold over our heads then how can you be against it?

    Where to start…

    First, no one IS against it DJ, in fact, I am FOR the best alternative power source known to man: NUCLEAR. The problem with the AGW debate is that, crying “the sky is falling” using a lie actually HINDERS the process of decreasing our reliance on middle eastern oil because no major advance in science can be built on a false assumption. But this is a much more nuanced issue than the typical Liberal seems able to grasp:

    1. Oil, as it is refined and used in manufacturing, is a very clean energy source. Yes, the burning of oil produces sulphers and carbon monoxide, both of which are poisons (unlike C02) but in new vehicles the catalytic converters deal with this issue. At factories, smokestack scrubbers deal with that issue. Most pollution that comes from the burning of “fossil fuels” is because the thing that it is burning it is old. For example, a new Hummer produces MUCH less pollution than some Lib’s old Volvo Station wagon or VW van. This is why wealthy countries are cleaner. We can afford the newer technologies that make fuel burning clean.

    2. Oil (and NG) are the lifeblood of modern civilization, and for good reason:

    -It is plentiful (we could support ourselves and be a net exporter of oil if we drilled for our own - offshore and Alaska being the most notable),
    -probably renewable (the abiotic production of oil is an unsupportable scientific hypothesis),
    -we have the pipelines already built (which would need to be duplicated nationwide if we went to any other form of fuel such as hydrogen),
    -it is absolutely REQUIRED for the production of heating oil, lubricants and plastic, the production of which results in a waste product called GASOLINE! (many people do not realize that before the advent of the IC engine, gasoline was dumped after the refining process because there was no use for it),
    -it is inexpensive (and if we drilled for our own oil on a wider scale, it would be even less expensive than it is now).

    Be honest, if it weren’t for the oil in the Middle East, we wouldn’t think twice about that region. They would forever be stuck in the seventh century and we could care less.

    I am more than honest DJ, I have my eyes open. Setting aside the issue of the protection of Israel for now, if Iraq or Iran have WMDs then their oil, or lack thereof, makes no difference to us. As a matter of fact, one of the strategies being promoted by conservative military experts is to mine Iranian harbors and blow up their refineries. This would isolate them, kind of a modern day seige. But this would reduce the oil supply from the ME, something you claim that we can’t abide. Also, need I remind you that ME oil on the world market reduces the price of Texas and other American produced oil?

    Granted, developing alternative energy sources will be costly at first — but far less costly now than if we have to wait until we reach the time when we are forced to move to another source for any reason.

    If companies want to develop “alternative energy” I’m all for it. However artificially raising the price of oil (or subsidizing AE research) so that companies can do the development is fascistic (dictionary sense) and completely unnecessary. The lifeblood of civilization is oil and there is absolutely nothing wrong with it. In fact, I could make a case that if we were currently running on expensive solar and biomass energy sources we would be looking for an “alternative” and oil would have to be one of those given that it is inexpensive, relatively clean, is easy to transport, and is more versatile as a fuel than pork is as a food.

    Personally, I can’t say if Gore is right or wrong on the issue of global warming or climate change. But the one thing he is doing is getting people to talk about it and explore different solutions.

    I always have to laugh whenever I see this kind of statement. How about: “Personally, I can’t say if David Duke is right or wrong on the issue of race. But the one thing he is doing is getting people to talk about it and explore different solutions.”

    If someone is clearly wrong, as is obvious with what Al Gore is promoting, then his portion of the dialog is just misleading people.

    Too much oxygen will kill you also. It’s about balance, not whether any particular gas is benign or not. But hey, you could simply Google the effects of CO2 to see how wrong your statement is on its face. (But you knew that)

    I know NO SUCH THING. I already quoted several leading researchers on the subject of whether C02 is a pollutant. IT IS NOT. If you want to resort to the “anything is bad in enough quantity” argument then you have already lost. WATER in too much quantity is very dangerous but we are not outlawing it (yet). The point you seemed to have missed DJ, is that you were making a claim about “cleanliness” and I simply reminded you that C02 is NOT A POLLUTANT!!!!

    If your point is now about “balance” I need only point you back to my previous post to remind you that human produced C02 is a TINY fraction of what are called “greenhouse gases”. Do the math my friend and you will find that there is simply no scientific basis for claims about C02 being either a pollutant or “out of balance” with other atmospheric gases.

    But if you think man-made C02 is dangerous then please stop producing it. When you are no longer personally producing this “pollutant” then I will gladly listen to you.

    Cheers.

    -B

  55. LC HOGHEAD Comment by LC HOGHEAD

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    one thing that drives me nuts is all those articles telling people to turn off a light when they leave a room or to combine two errands together so they drive a few miles less. All while politicians and movie stars and whoever else can afford it are flying a couple of people to entire plane that uses a zillion gallons. It would take 10,000 ordinary folk combining errands for ten years to make up for one trip. But you NEVER hear a suggestion that these people use commercial flights or reduce the number of their trips in order to conserve. And the truth is, Gore is a have, and he lives like a have and will continue to live like a have, regardless of the effect on the environment. Gore is a hypocrite, and he lives like a hypocrite and will continue to live like a hypocrite, regardless of the effect on the environment

  56. DJ Allyn,  ITW Comment by DJ Allyn, ITW

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    f you want to understand the “greenhouse” gas issue more mosey on over to junkscience.com for the science. Without this understanding, you will simply be unable to hold your own in the conversation. Nevertheless, you post was cordial and reasonable, so thanks.

    Oy.

    Junkscience.com? Give a man a website, and all of a sudden he is an ‘expert’. Steven Milloy is a corporate whore whose doctorate is in law, not environmental sciences. One of his top clients is ExxonMobil who pays him for disinformation — that you take as gospel. Never mind that he is in total disagreement with the vast majority of scientists out there — the ones who actually hold doctorates in the field of study.

    And yes, I do try to be cordial when ever possible.

    Oh, and as to the “dwindling supply of fossil fuels”, DJ, you don’t get to state that as fact either, particularly not since we now have more known reserves than we had 40 years ago. You see, we’ve yet to fully explore even 10% of the planet and, as we explore, we keep finding more of the sticky black stuff.

    Sure. The problem is not in whether there is more oil, it is whether we can get at it or whether it is cost-effective to extract it. In case you hadn’t noticed, roughly 75 percent of this planet is covered by ocean — much of it way too deep to explore/drill/extract any possible oil found there.

    The other part of that equation is how much oil have we used up in the past forty years, and how many more years of oil do we have left before we are forced to find alternatives?

    I am FOR the best alternative power source known to man: NUCLEAR.

    The only problem I have with nuclear power is what to do with the waste.

  57. Beeblebrox Comment by Beeblebrox

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    Junkscience.com? Give a man a website, and all of a sudden he is an ‘expert’.

    C’mon DJ, even for you this barely qualifies as a talking point. Try that with Misha. :huh_tb: A more accurate statement would be “Give a man a some cool presentation software and an Oscar and he still couldn’t punch his way out of conference on Anthropomorphic Global Warming.”

    Steven Milloy is a corporate whore whose doctorate is in law, not environmental sciences.

    I don’t believe that Milloy ever claimed that he had a doctorate in ES. His site is about debunking lots of different scientific hoaxes so such a doctorate would be somewhat useless for most of the things he researches. Actually, given the nature of his site, a law degree would probably be as good as anything. Nevertheless, it is interesting that you think that “environmental sciences” is an authoritative education on the completely separate field of climatology! That one was cringe-worthy.

    But again DJ, you are the one defending the C student propagandist, Al Gore (you know, the guy who bought his way into politics using his daddy’s Occidental’s oil profits) so calling Milloy a corporate whore is kind of a sad come-back.

    One of his top clients is ExxonMobil who pays him for disinformation —

    If you want to enlighten us with just what “disinformation” he is putting out, I’m all ears.

    Never mind that he is in total disagreement with the vast majority of scientists out there — the ones who actually hold doctorates in the field of study.

    By “vast majority” can you provide a list of climatologists with doctorates who disagree with the greenhouse gas page I pointed to at junkscience.com?

    I don’t think you can but I would love to see it.

    Cheers,

    -B

    P.S. If we must disbelieve anti-AGW “corporate whores” may we also discount greengroup whores as well? Al Gore, for example, is heavily funded by such groups making him, by your own definition, a prostitute of monumental proportions in his own right.

  58. Beeblebrox Comment by Beeblebrox

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    The only problem I have with nuclear power is what to do with the waste.

    There is very little waste left over from modern nuclear power plants. In fact, the Japanese are developing micro-nuclear power plants that can fit on a flatbed truck and can power a neighborhood for 20 years. When it is exhausted very little spent fuel is left and they just pick up the unit and replace it with a new one.

    Personally, I have no problem with burying the last little bit of unusable material in the area in which it was used (rather than transporting it to Nevada). We have the technology to do this TODAY. There is no need to wait 20 years for the fabled pot at the end of the Green energy rainbow when we have a solution now.

    And by the way, there is currently NO energy source that could be used on a massive scale like nuclear, that doesn’t have a fairly large environmental impact. Solar voltaic cells being just one example of a technology that uses more power to manufacture than it produces.

  59. Kristopher Comment by Kristopher

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    Comment by DJ Allyn, ITW
    The only problem I have with nuclear power is what to do with the waste.

    Use the heat producing Strontium-90 to power my SUV.

  60. BC, Imperial Torturer Comment by BC, Imperial Torturer

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    Shit, I had to go and miss this discussion… Oh well, I’ll just take one of the Librul/Socialist/Marxist/EnvironMoron talking points and shred it all to fuck and back…

    If we can develop a cleaner source of energy that doesn’t rely on a dwindling supply of fosil fuel that another country can hold over our heads then how can you be against it?

    :lol_wp:

    For starters, we’ll start here.

    As a second stop, we’ll take a trip to here.

    And to save what few remaining Hysterical Hormones™ that are left in the Simpering Socialists’ little skulls, we’ll end our trip around the Eeeeeevil Oil Feilds o’ Doom™ here.

    Hell, we haven’t even looked up New & Improved™ gas & oil fields lately and we can STILL stomp a LiberIdiot Standardized Meme™ into oblivion without so much as breaking into a light sheen of perspiration. We have GOT to start cultivating a better crop of Che-loving Chicken Littles™ or it’s not going to be much fun around here for much longer.

  61. Beeblebrox Comment by Beeblebrox

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    We have GOT to start cultivating a better crop of Che-loving Chicken Littles™ or it’s not going to be much fun around here for much longer.

    I know what you mean. DJ tries hard but very rarely does a quality debate ensue as he gives up after anyone asks him to produce some evidence for what he is asserting. What we need is to get a couple of the crazy libs that hang out over at Wizbang to come over here. Each and every one of them could use some AIR smack-down.

  62. Unregistered Comment by tbone1

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    But I’m a terrible person for thinking my car is not the cause of global climate change. I conserve energy because I am cheap, not because it will save the world. I’ll be planting 1500 seedlings on my farm this month for many reasons, but getting carbon credits is not one of them. Maybe Bill Maher will say “If Al Gore was dead, the environment would be better off, fewer trees would be killed and the air would be cleaner.” Image is everything and we conservatives have the wrong image. It is better in America today to have good intentions than to act well.
    Sorry for the bitterness, but AGore is sickening.