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It didn’t take long for our three front-running liberal “R” candidates to drop to their knees and apologize for/denounce Ann, did it?

Maybe Ann WAS wrong. It looks like she called the wrong candidate(s) faggots.

Rudy McRomney: If you hand in your rented testicles before tomorrow at noon, you might get your deposit back.

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    GOP, Blogs Condemn Ann Coulter…

    The Log Cabin Republicans have condemned Ann Coulter.
    John McCain has denounced her.  So has Rudy Giuliani.  And Mitt Romney.  (h/t Hot Air)
    More reaction from conservative blogs (Robbie linked to a few others):
    Powerline: "Deplora…

  3. LC 0311 crunchie Comment by LC 0311 crunchie

    Damn, second behind Grouchy? What’s the Empire comin’ too?

  4. MCPO Airdale Comment by MCPO Airdale

    Fuck ‘em if they can’t take a joke!

  5. LC HJ Caveman82952 Comment by LC HJ Caveman82952

    Third, crunchie. Why do these RINOS even pretend to give a shit? T appease some flake that wouldn’t vote for them anyway? To appear tolerant, wishing to avoid offending someone? Then count me as proudly intolerant, graciously offensive and if the left doesn’t like it, fuck you! Come do something about it. And bring your guns.

  6. jaybear Comment by jaybear

    so the KOS retards lament the fact that Cheney wasn’t killed in Afghanistan this week

    bill “the irrelevant” maher does the same

    gore accuses this administration of running a totalitarian state

    We regularly see the idiots demonstrating across the country holding signs wishing death to the President

    and these three fools pander to the above mentioned bastards by picking on a girl? for saying faggot?

    I take back everything I said about Ann Coulter in any previous threads. Instead, I encourage her to go after these three nutless wonders…..THEY’re the real faggots.

    Schwarzkopf in ‘08

  7. Nixcell Comment by Nixcell

    Hate to go against the popular opinion here, but let’s be honest about this…Coulter IS a media whore with a definite agenda, i.e. the selling of books. And what she said was absolutely over the line. What did you expect the three amigos to do? Did you think they would support Coulter’s opinions? Please. Politicians just ain’t fit to eat.

  8. Blackiswhite, Imperial Agent Provocateur Comment by Blackiswhite, Imperial Agent Provocateur

    David Bonior is running Edwards’ campaign???

    That explains a lot. The only politician who made me feel like I had to wash my hand after I shook his. I’m sure the ‘Coulter Cash’ concept came straight from him.

    *spit*

  9. LC 0311 crunchie Comment by LC 0311 crunchie

    Third, crunchie

    I was second when I posted it caveman! :wallbash_tb:

    I SECOND what you and Jaybear said though. **Damn, and I thought work was tough today**

  10. LC 0311 crunchie Comment by LC 0311 crunchie

    And what she said was absolutely over the line.

    Why is that Nixcell. See jaybears post for just a small smattering of what gets thrown out as “discourse” everyday by the libs. Free speech works both ways in this country. But to the libs tolerance means shutting up and agreeing with them.

    Was Ann’s comment better suited to a bar room? Probably. But hell, she said it and watching the leftists trip over themselves to denounce her is the better punch line. And that is probably exactly what she had in mind.

  11. Emperor Misha I Comment by Emperor Misha I

    Hate to go against the popular opinion here, but let’s be honest about this…Coulter IS a media whore with a definite agenda, i.e. the selling of books.

    It’s quite possible. Although I wouldn’t go as far as to say that every single word she says is carefully weighted to sell maximum copy.

    To use myself as an example. My rants and raves are, for some obscure reason and without tooting my own horn too much, fairly popular, something that I surely do appreciate although I’m not sure how I got worthy of it. But I assure you that my copy isn’t designed to play to anything, I don’t sit around agonizing over whether my every word will play well before I hit “publish”. I write what I believe and I publish it. Where it goes from there isn’t up to me, nor do I care. I am who I am and if some people hate it, so be it. If they like it, so be it too. It’s none of my concern. I never wanted to be “popular”, I just want to be who and what I am and be left the Hell alone.

    To what degree Ann is like that I have no way of knowing, nor do I much care to hypothesize about it.

    It doesn’t matter anyway, unless of course somebody can point me to an example where she said something that she most definitely didn’t mean, just to sell books. That would be dishonest and that is one of the very very few absolute NO-NOs in my book. I don’t know her well enough to pass such judgment, however.

    And what she said was absolutely over the line.

    No it wasn’t. People say “faggot”, “gay”, “homo”, “light in the loafers”, “effeminate”, “limp-wristed” etc. etc. all the time. Heck, gays use those terms themselves, and I know this for a fact. Just as some of them like to joke around calling us straights “breeders”, something I don’t find in the least “hurtful” or “over the line” either.

    Well, depending on how you say it, of course. When Ann said “faggot” about Silky Pony, or, to stick with what I know and avoid assuming what she meant, when I call the Breck Girl a “faggot”, I mean it as an insult to a jerk who obviously has “issues” about his masculinity (don’t make me post that video again), it is in no shape, form or fashion meant as an insult to gays in general. Why the fuck would I want to insult people who’ve never done me any wrong, many of whom I call friends?

    I mean to insult the Breck Girl, and I choose my words carefully in order to hit what I perceive to be the target’s soft spots. It’s important, you know. Remember when the subretarded fwench started calling us “cowboys”, thinking that it was an insult? They obviously didn’t do their homework, because I’ve rarely laughed that hard in my life.

    If you wish to insult somebody, you’d damn well better make sure that you hit where it might hurt or you’re wasting your time, and it doesn’t imply an insult to anybody but the target.

    What did you expect the three amigos to do? Did you think they would support Coulter’s opinions? Please. Politicians just ain’t fit to eat.

    You got the last part right, that’s for sure.

    What did I expect them to do? What would I do?

    Here’s what I’d do: I’d tell Howling Howard that if he wanted an apology for something that somebody else had said, he’d damn well better take his screaming, offensive, whining, deeply insulting ass to THEM instead.

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  13. LC Mrs. M-ITT™ Comment by LC Mrs. M-ITT™

    I don’t recall this much hand wringing and panty wetting happening when Randi Rhodes spouted off about some should assassinate the President….or the multiple other Moonbats that have been running off at the mouth about such things.
    Once again this is a case of “Free Speech for ME but not for thee”. It’s ok to call the President of the United States a murderer, a Nazi, and a dictator, but don’t trash one of their prettiest Metrosexual Ambulance Chasers who owns a house as big as Radio City Music Hall, and spends more time on his freaking hair than the Olsen Twins combined.
    Frankly…if Ann can get their lace panties in a wad over something this trivial, then I say “You Go Girl!” Let her have at it. I’m fed up with this walking on egg shells around these freaks. If they can’t suck it up and over look it…fine. Bite me!!

  14. Nixcell Comment by Nixcell

    But I assure you that my copy isn’t designed to play to anything, I don’t sit around agonizing over whether my every word will play well before I hit “publish”.

    Bingo. And I think that Ann does. Why? Because whenever she is called upon to explain her comments she seeks to make light of them herself, and then (usually) tries to top them with something else even more outrageous. At least that is a pattern that I have seen. I think that rather than wanting to debate or actually provide commentary about things, she usually just wants to whack the hornet nest with the biggest stick she can find…Not that I think that isn’t fun sometimes.

    If you wish to insult somebody, you’d damn well better make sure that you hit where it might hurt or you’re wasting your time, and it doesn’t imply an insult to anybody but the target.

    As much as I loathe the PC movement, there are still certain words that most speakers know to steer clear of in public. That said, you cannot use the word “faggot” without expecting liberals to come pouring out of the walls like roaches in a housefire. To say that Coulter didn’t know what the consequences of her statement were going to be is to insult her intelligence, at the very least. I know she wasn’t insulting homosexuals. You know she wasn’t insulting homosexuals. But remember who we are dealing with here.

    Not only that, but I wish, just once, that I could see a conservative “rep” like Coulter choose the high road. It’s the same reason we don’t take a convicted child molester out and cut his cojones off with a rusty tin can lid, as satisfying as that might be. It’s also the same reason that a Senator or Representative (usually) will stand in front of someone screaming about the Iraq war and take their verbal abuse and not strike back in kind.

    BTW, as you may have gathered, I really do not disagree with Coulter’s evaluation of the Silky One…but her rhetoric was sophomoric at best. That is just my opinion. That is what I meant by “over the line.”

    I’d tell Howling Howard that if he wanted an apology for something that somebody else had said, he’d damn well better take his screaming, offensive, whining, deeply insulting ass to THEM instead.

    Amen, Emperor!

    And, to be realistic, if not Ann today, then someone else tomorrow. I just wish she would not have painted a rhetorical bullseye for the libs to shoot at and bitch about.

  15. Unregistered Comment by Lord Spatula I, King & Tyrant

    As much as I loathe the PC movement, there are still certain words that most speakers know to steer clear of in public. That said, you cannot use the word “faggot” without expecting liberals to come pouring out of the walls like roaches in a housefire.

    And this is a bad thing…why again?

    The problem I see here is that this spineless weasel of a political party of ours has become waaaaaaaay too fucking much like its last two presidents.  Both Linguinispineya and his daddy, Mr. “No New Taxes” himself, both were more concerned (despite anyone’s  claims to the contrary) with the philosophy of “go along to get along” than they were with doing what was abso-friggin’-lutely bang-on right  for the country, fuck the political consequences, and To Hell™ with what any Demoscum said or thought about it.

    The day we gave more than .2 shits about what the Donktards and their special-interest teat-chompers thought was the day that this party not only lost its spine, but also began to dive headlong into the septic tank.  Now we have a Putrid Pissload Of Pussies™ running things for the GOP, and look just where the Hell™ that  got us, hm?

    We already know that the leftist bastards in this country will get offended at the drop of a hat.  Any  hat.  SO WHY THE FUCK DO WE GIVE A SHIT ABOUT IT?

    Time to toughen our collective hide.  When we on the right begin to sound like we’ve regrown a set, begin to govern  like we’ve regrown a set, instead of sucking on our finger and sticking it up in the air like we have been, then I guraran-damn-tee  you that the American people will once again believe in us, and once again follow us.  That won’t happen, however, until we stop apologizing for every damned thing we’ve ever said.

    John Edwards is a faggot.  First class, even.

    And you can fucking quote me.

  16. LC 0311 crunchie Comment by LC 0311 crunchie

    Well said Spats, couldn’t agree more.

    Now don’t forget to pay Mope his faggot offsets.

  17. Emperor Misha I Comment by Emperor Misha I

    Bingo. And I think that Ann does. Why? Because whenever she is called upon to explain her comments she seeks to make light of them herself, and then (usually) tries to top them with something else even more outrageous. At least that is a pattern that I have seen.

    You could be right. Of course, she also seems to stay very much on tune with the “outrages” that she produces, she certainly sticks with a common political thread, so it’s not like she’s just randomly jumping all over the spectrum looking for stuff that might be offensive to people.

    I think that rather than wanting to debate or actually provide commentary about things, she usually just wants to whack the hornet nest with the biggest stick she can find…Not that I think that isn’t fun sometimes.

    Fun AND useful, I might add. I’m reminded of the “outrage” over her comments about those slimy grief hags and political operatives known as the Jersey Girls. Outrageous her comments might have been, but it dragged the professional grief mongers into the spotlight and, as a result, we haven’t heard a peep from them or their “absolute moral majority” ever since.

    To say that Coulter didn’t know what the consequences of her statement were going to be is to insult her intelligence, at the very least. I know she wasn’t insulting homosexuals. You know she wasn’t insulting homosexuals. But remember who we are dealing with here.

    I do. I also know that it doesn’t matter what you say, they’ll find something to be outraged about and scream it from the rooftops until they turn blue in their faces.

    I don’t know. I guess I’ve just finally reached the point where I honestly don’t care what they’re offended about, seeing as how they’re offended all the bloody time anyway. Let them. Let them scream and howl and bang their sippy cups. I’ll be over here with a bemused grin on my face, watching them crap their diapers with outrage.

    Not only that, but I wish, just once, that I could see a conservative “rep” like Coulter choose the high road.

    Oh but we do have those. There are any number of conservative columnists out there that will be ever so civil with the epitomes of uncivility, appease the unappeasable and do their damndest to take the feces-flinging monkeys seriously. They have their place too, if nothing else then because they show up the libtards for just the immature, screeching howler monkeys that they are by comparison.

    And then we have the unapologetic bomb throwers like Ann to add fun to the proceedings.

    BTW, as you may have gathered, I really do not disagree with Coulter’s evaluation of the Silky One…but her rhetoric was sophomoric at best. That is just my opinion. That is what I meant by “over the line.”

    Well you won’t find me disagreeing that she can do much better when she wants to, because she does it all the time, on a weekly basis in her columns.

    The thing is, this really was at least as much of a jab at the Hollyweird nonsense about Isaiah Washington having to enter “re-education camp” or lose his job because he referred to a co-worker as a “faggot.” I honestly believe that that was the only way the word even found its way into her mouth. That it landed a well-deserved blow against the Breck Girl’s effeminate metrosexuality as well was just a bonus.

    Did she give the libs something to howl about? Absolutely. But if it hadn’t been her, then it would’ve been something else. And she’s one heck of a lightning rod.

  18. LC JackBoot IC/A-OBR Comment by LC JackBoot IC/A-OBR

    #14 Nixcell-

    Maybe you should reconsider this:

    Not only that, but I wish, just once, that I could see a conservative “rep” like Coulter choose the high road.

    I’ve had a belly-full of this type of thinking in our political discourse. The left is free to say absolutely anything, no outrage is considered over the top. They do this full well, knowing that the right will always pussy-out and “take the high-road” allowing them to continue and even increase the outrageousness of their remarks. With full confidence that no one on the other side will unload both barrels on their asses.

    Maybe your choice of words isn’t an exact description of your thinking, but if it is, you are essentially calling for a PC response to criticism that knows neither shame nor rationality.

    Should we go all-out, gloves-off, mano-a-mano everywhere, every time we debate? Of course not. Context and position is everything.

    In this issue, was Ann’s remark sophomoric? Yes, perhaps even not that mature, but compared to the bat-shit, treasonous fecal-verbiage coming out of prominent lefty LEADERS (as opposed to a pundit like Ann Coulter) it most certainly isn’t over the top.

    I just wish she would not have painted a rhetorical bullseye for the libs to shoot at and bitch about.

    That’s not physically possible. If a conservative, any conservative makes any statement, the left seizes on it as a target. That is their biggest tactic.

    Dick Cheney walks outside and verbally notes it’s raining. NYT Times headline reads: “Cheney Professes To Be An Expert On Meterology”

    That’s how they play the game. We keep mucking it up, by playing nicee-nicee, reaching across the aisle, bipartisan efforts, etc and what do we get…a knife in the back before releasing the handshake grip.

    If on the other hand, we pick an appropriate time and place to let it rip, the effect on the left would be devastating.

    Just something to think about M’Kay?

  19. LC Gunsniper Comment by LC Gunsniper

    Nicely done Spats and Jackboot.

    BTW Nixcell,

    I think that rather than wanting to debate or actually provide commentary about things, she usually just wants to whack the hornet nest with the biggest stick she can find…

    That’s the point. Ann does to the Donks and Libbys the same thing they’ve been getting away with for decades.

  20. Lc Scott Comment by Lc Scott

    Did she give the libs something to howl about? Absolutely. But if it hadn’t been her, then it would’ve been something else.

    You know the only group out there who can out-outrage the libs has the be the goat loving moon rock worshipers .

  21. Nixcell Comment by Nixcell

    Okay, I appreciate all of the comments. You have all given me something to think about.

    I am a trained academic, which basically means that I have had it drilled into me to keep an open mind on things, to explore both sides of an issue and sorta stay fluid in regard to judgement. And as I have gotten older, I have discovered that it is easy to stand up for nothing…and that it makes you crazier than an outhouse rat. This is one of the problems with libs. They think they are being “tolerant” (a word used by people without values) while being blind to the fact that they are totally insane.

    I guess I still have a lot of repressed idealism when it comes to political discourse…and if any of you are starting to wonder, I am by hell not a closet lib. I just wish we lived in a more rational world. Naive idealism? Yeah, I guess so…I have much to learn, which is why I am here.

  22. juandos Comment by juandos

    Maybe Ann WAS wrong. It looks like she called the wrong candidate(s) faggots.

    Amen with that assessment!

    Ahhh, poor Nixcell (#14) has his panties in a twist: “Not only that, but I wish, just once, that I could see a conservative “rep” like Coulter choose the high road. It’s the same reason we don’t take a convicted child molester out and cut his cojones off with a rusty tin can lid, as satisfying as that might be. It’s also the same reason that a Senator or Representative (usually) will stand in front of someone screaming about the Iraq war and take their verbal abuse and not strike back in kind.

    So being a Robert Fisk like pantywaist sponge for verbal abuse is a good thing?!?!

  23. LC Gunsniper Comment by LC Gunsniper

    I guess I still have a lot of repressed idealism when it comes to political discourse…and if any of you are starting to wonder, I am by hell not a closet lib. I just wish we lived in a more rational world. Naive idealism? Yeah, I guess so…I have much to learn, which is why I am here.

    Me and you both, bro. My best advice…

    Don’t let your heart rule over your head.

  24. Mope, Imperial Knucklehead Comment by Mope, Imperial Knucklehead

    Now don’t forget to pay Mope his faggot offsets.

    (The commission check is in the mail, Crunchie.)

    Look- these rotten bastards are trying to control the debate by setting standards of what words can be used.

    Fuck them. Remember how they wanted President Bush to prove a negitive? Well Fag-boy will just have to prove he never smoked a pole. Remember President Bush being equated to Hitler? Remember DICK Durbin’s Pol Pot meme? What about all people that those hoped Dick Cheney was blown to pieces?

    Where the fuck is the denouncement for those?

    So, to diffuse the situation, so everyone can just get along, it is my pleasure to offer a discount to all you asshole libs out there that take umbrage. Yes, for a limited time you can purchase offsets for idiotic remarks at a discount! You can even go smoke a pole and have the record of that event EXPUNGED (batteries not included.)

    And there’s more!

    For all you RINO’s out there- For a limited time only I am pleased to announce RINO REHAB!

    Yes, my freinds, The orginal Rino Rehab. Why rehab you ask? Because rehab is the cool place to be. Everyone who is anyone and fucks up has to go to rehab.

    What do they teach at RINO Rehab? I’m glad you asked.

    BC, hand me the photo of Helen Thomas and the 2 x 4…

    Yes, my friends, remember: “RINO REHAB” When offsets just won’t do.

    (Sold seperately.)

    Now go take on the day faggots.

  25. sig94 Comment by sig94

    Nixcell, welcome to Hyperbole Central.
    It IS fun and it helps keep my blood pressure at a manageable level.

    For an insult to work it has to reach it’s mark. The fwench “Cowboy” remark failed to do the job because the fwench think that we have the same screwed up priorities/sensibilities as they do. We dont’. Cowboy up!

    Ann’s remark was perhaps off-handed but nonetheless a well guided barb because it pissed off the political pussies. Exactly those she intended it to reach whether they be dems or reps. Now Breck Boi has that hanging around his neck.

    Mebbe we should start a new fashion jewelry statement: “WWAFD” - What Would A Faggot Do?

    T-shirts anyone?

  26. Unregistered Comment by Lord Spatula I, King & Tyrant

    I am by hell not a closet lib. I just wish we lived in a more rational world.

    Oh, I’m not saying you are, Nix - which is why I didn’t give you both barrels.  No worries there.

    Our society has become (for lack of a better word) inverted.  The libs’ most celebrated nightmare, Orwell’s 1984,  has been brought about - by those selfsame libs.  Right is wrong, wrong is right, and everything nowadays is couched in newspeak.

    Timidity has replaced boldness.  A spirit of fear has permeated this society.  Truth is not valued so much today as whether or not some pansy-assed special-interest group will be (*GASP, ARRRRRRRRGH!!!*) offended.  This has given rise to a most peculiar animal, and my personal pet peeve - the politician/celebrity/what have you that says something true and correct (albeit controversial by today’s stardard)…then turns around and apologizes for it the next day.

    A perfect example of this (although some of the LCs might not think so) is Pat Robertson, who back in 2005 thought it a good idea that Widdle Hugitito “Pene Poquetito”  Chavez should assume room temperature - and then apologized for saying it the next day, never mind that he was bang-on right.

    Kim du Toit is spot-on about this.  This nation has become pussified.  And unless the situation gets corrected, and soon, it’s going to lead directly to our destruction.

  27. Mope, Imperial Knucklehead Comment by Mope, Imperial Knucklehead

    That reminds me, Spats.

    Does anyone remember “The Pussy Question?”

    It was a hypothetical question designed to make the President look bad either way. So I propose to Howard the Duck, The Pussification Question:

    Howie, if being a faggot ain’t so bad, why don’t you go smoke a pole?

    (Faggot offset serial number Mope2317035626)

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  29. hOOt Gibson Comment by hOOt Gibson

    The 3 GOP “Leaders” are appearently as devoid of balls as that limp rod Edwards…..will any true Conservatives in the GOP stand up?

    [not at all, the right wing of the GOP died with Ronald Reagan]

    hOOt

  30. hOOt Gibson Comment by hOOt Gibson

    As far as Nix being a closet “lib”, I say his sorry ass left the closet long ago…..I can hear you chanting “Rudy, Rudy, ……”

    hOOt

  31. Unregistered Comment by Beartrapper

    Maybe Ann was wrong? BWHAHAHAHA, no I don’t think so.
    I’ve always thought Edwards was a little faggot, a little slimy ambulance chasing ,(did I say slimy?) faggot.
    When you see this fucktard with a shovel in his hand in New Orleans with the sleeves rolled up on his $200 shirt, and his stonewashed blue jeans, it is perfectly clear he is some kind of metrosexual homo that has never done a days work in his life!
    Is faggot now a word that we cannot utter? Apparently, because on other blogs I have read this AM the script reads ***got. Well I’m glad that here at home(on the Rott) we can still speak our minds.
    FAGGOT, FAGGOT, FAGGOT…. there, i feel much better.

  32. Unregistered Comment by Cheryl

    I am surprised the moonbats don’t call it the F-word and propose to make the use of it illegal, like they’re trying to do with the N-word. But I forgot. There are two F-words. Hell, just ban ‘em all and rip apart the First Amendment! That’s what we’re coming to. :wallbash_tb: :furious_tb:

  33. Unregistered Comment by Lord Spatula I, King & Tyrant

    Does anyone remember “The Pussy Question?”

    Heh.  I’d forgotten all about that.  Brought a chuckle - many thanks.  (As an aside, I wonder if Pollak the Pipsqueak has come up with any inane polls lately?)

    Incidentally, feel free to put the tab for all the faggot-offsets on Kossack’s Discover card.  He’ll think it’s donations for Edwards.

  34. LC JackBoot IC/A-OBR Comment by LC JackBoot IC/A-OBR

    #21 Nixcell-

    Okay, I appreciate all of the comments. You have all given me something to think about.

    There you go. That’s the idea around here. Dump out what you’re thinking and see what happens, expecting to get slammed. You found out we aren’t an echo chamber like the DUmmies underground, et. al. Take your lumps when you get them and you’ll come away with a different view than before.

    I have much to learn, which is why I am here.

    We ALL do, which is exactly why we all continue coming back to the pack.

    You have been assimilated, welcome to the Empire.

    ummm by the way:

    FAGGOT, FAGGOT, FAGGOT

    Beartrapper, being Sunday that’s a premium faggot-offset penalty. Get that check out NOW !!!!

  35. L.C. Rowane Comment by L.C. Rowane

    Well I for one, as a staunch conservative, denounce Ann’s statement calling the pantywaist a faggot. She didn’t use strong enough language.

    How about a low-down, cowardly, sock cuking, ambulance chasing, faggoty, butt pirate? I think this more describes this vain little pissant, Edwards.

  36. Emperor Misha I Comment by Emperor Misha I

    Ahhh, poor Nixcell (#14) has his panties in a twist:

    No he does not. He’s merely trying to see the issue from both sides, something I find very useful and, besides, he does a fine job of presenting a rational argument, whether I agree with every little bit of it or not.

  37. Unregistered Comment by Beartrapper

    My apologies Jackboot…. Checks in the mail….just couldn’t help myself.

  38. Blackiswhite, Imperial Agent Provocateur Comment by Blackiswhite, Imperial Agent Provocateur

    Mope,
    I appreciate your entreprenurial spirit, but no checks will be forecoming from me. I steadfastly refuse to let a lunatic fringe make a word off-limits, thus making the impact of its use tanatmount to a capital crime, while its free and casual use among the members of the ‘victim’ class is expected and entirely permissible. These bastards have stolen enough from the formerly free discourse in this country. I will not relent here, even to help the bottom line of a fellow capitalist. I don’t need their permission to speak the language, and I’m sure as hell not going to let them take it away from us.
    :wallbash_tb:

  39. Lc Scott Comment by Lc Scott

    Ok I haven’t sen anyone else ask, so I will.
    Way was Ann insulting faggots by calling Edwards one? What in the hell did they do to have that panty waste compared to them?

    *ok I’m going to duck and cover now. (before the flaming starts)

  40. Lc Scott Comment by Lc Scott

    *seen
    *Why
    You would think I’d know better by now and would check first.

  41. Unregistered Comment by cas

    Hi Emperor,
    I like the range of comments, and wanted to add a couple of observations to your replies to Nixell.

    No it wasn’t. People say “faggot”, “gay”, “homo”, “light in the loafers”, “effeminate”, “limp-wristed” etc. etc. all the time.

    Yes I agree, they do–but saying it in a public forum, at a major televised conservative meeting, having loud cheers resonate from the audience–hmm? It wasn’t said in a bar–it was said in the NATIONAL DISCOURSE. For others to hear, and if not condemned, emulate. And yes, it was insulting. Not just to Edwards (and I really don’t care about his feelings) but also to gay folks as a whole.

    I mean it as an insult to a jerk who obviously has “issues” about his masculinity (don’t make me post that video again), it is in no shape, form or fashion meant as an insult to gays in general. Why the fuck would I want to insult people who’ve never done me any wrong, many of whom I call friends?

    And yes, I know that is what you meant. But I still think that it is insulting to gay folks. A communication has two parts–what you meant–and how it is received. And something more insidious as well–what it does to further affect future and current discourse.

    The first issue—it was intended as a targeted insult to one person. I believe you. Great. But what do I make of it, if I am gay, a bystander, and I know the term hasn’t been used in an affirmative way, but as a means of derision? I hope that the speakers don’t think about me as a category—and yes, it would be nice to be seen and appreciated as an individual (for my unique bundle of characteristics), but can I really be sure about that? After all, they have just called some aspect of my core—worthless and/or negative, even if it was directed at someone else. The second issue is related: I am a school teacher, and I didn’t get this for a long time, and didn’t pay attention to the hallways until I realized the pervasiveness of it–but when kids call each other “fag” or say “that’s so gay” its more than an insult to one person. They are using these terms to keep each other in line, intimidate, cut and hurt each other, ostracize and isolate, enforce social hierarchies. It pervades and distorts the discourse of the school. If I am gay, I certainly don’t talk about it, because the rhetoric has made clear that if I do, I can expect harsh retribution. How many times is a kid silenced by the fear of being labeled “gay” for saying or doing something that threatens some pre-conceived notion of what is or isn’t masculine? Would you find that unacceptable? Coulter is just doing what those kids are doing. I don’t think it is acceptable in school. So I don’t think it was acceptable here—as part of the national discourse. Thought experiment: What if Coulter had said something along the lines of–”He is so Jewish” or used a racially/religiously derogatory term clearly meaning it in a derogatory manner? E.g., “You know, for a Jew, you are OK.” Would any of the defenses you offer move you in support of her word-action (or the inaction of officuials who heard her) if this were the case?

    And as to the question on “why would you insult friends” the answer is—you don’t intend to do that. But it is possible that this could be a result of the derogatory remark aimed at someone else.

  42. Mope, Imperial Knucklehead Comment by Mope, Imperial Knucklehead

    I understand your consternation, BiW. I have taken it under advisement and came up with a solution that benefits not only you, but the LLC as well. I hereby grant you three freebies. Out of my own pocket. When you need more just ask. (Dude- you’re killing the goose that layed the golden egg here…) Further, if you ever need rehab, I can always find you a spot at the bar. Potatoe pancakes with yer beers! Perogies!You name it!

    If you’re nice, I’ll even show you the gun range downstairs.

    Button up already!

  43. LC Wil Comment by LC Wil

    Nixcell:

    Not only that, but I wish, just once, that I could see a conservative “rep” like Coulter choose the high road.

    Please. Of all the things said about this incident, this is the silliest I have had the priveledge to hear so far. I’m happy I live in a time when Ann and a damn few others are fed up enough to start hitting back. Most of what passes for “intelligent discourse” from the “loyal opposition” should rightfully earn an invitation to pistols and coffeee at dawn.

    Not that any of the metrosexual, perfectly coiffed, so easlily offended, panty wearing little crybabies would actually accept. That would require more cojones than these testosterone-challenged little sissy boys can bring to bear.

    Faggits.

  44. Mope, Imperial Knucklehead Comment by Mope, Imperial Knucklehead

    A communication has two parts–what you meant–and how it is received.

    When I place vowels and consonants together to form words. Then structure a sentence with grammer, I expect people to understand. When they understand, you as a school teacher, would be the first to acclaim their achievement. Now,if something is said that you disagree with, do you ban the word or the thought?

    Further, if a child were to come to you expressing what he heard you say, rather than what you said, do you still lessen his grade? He just recieved it different. Right?

    Let’s move on to your experiment:

    experiment: What if Coulter had said something along the lines of–”He is so Jewish” or used a racially/religiously derogatory term clearly meaning it in a derogatory manner? E.g., “You know, for a Jew, you are OK.”

    This is actually a good point. The only problem is youneglect to take into consideration that some people don’t have thin skin. To wit: If I was Jewish, and someone called me a Jew (or any derogatory term you can conjure),I would be offended? Why? I would be proud to be a Jew. If I was queer and someone called me a faggot, why would I be offended? I would be proud to be called a faggot.

    As Popeye would say “I ams what I ams”.

    The point is this, school teacher, why must we always worry about what other people think when they don’t have tolisten?

    Crap. I gotta buy another offset for calling you a school teacher. I’m sorry.

  45. LC Wil Comment by LC Wil

    Here mope.

  46. LC HJ Caveman82952 Comment by LC HJ Caveman82952

    Political correctness is against the law in my house. I thought about Edwards in his designer jeans holding a shovel…..and here I was today covered in mud from head to toe trying vainly to fix a broken water line. Everything is closed so I hsve to wait and call Joe, the town plumber. I was frustrated, washing my arms off in a fucking garbage can. A matter of pride, you know, being able to fix things. The Other Half laughed at me, said I fart, spit, belch and cuss with the best of them. She read this link, turning to me said, “I want my man to be a real man, doing what he thinks he needs to, even if he is afraid, getting dirty or scratched up, using his strength to build things, even if he is in a nasty mood. You taught me how to use a gun, balance a checkbook, I watched you build gates, fences, fix pipes and clean garages.” Then she gave me a hug and wiped the mud off her shirt. The cup of coffee was nice too. And we are having pot roast for dinner tonight. “In twenty-five years of marriage you have been many things…but never boring.” Not sure how to take that. But wussified metros make her gag. And I bought these pants at the Starvation Army……if I have extra cash I buy shit for my wife or my daughter. Yeah, maybe Edwards is a real man’s man, but I married my girlfriend twenty five years ago, and she has stood by me ever since, through thick and thin. Knowing of my kind heart, yet fierce resolve to not let the world get the better of me. And she knows about the Rott, too. My favorite site.

  47. Emperor Misha I Comment by Emperor Misha I

    And yes, I know that is what you meant. But I still think that it is insulting to gay folks. A communication has two parts–what you meant–and how it is received. And something more insidious as well–what it does to further affect future and current discourse.

    Cas, I know what you’re trying to say, but it doesn’t make sense. If you’re to be constantly wary of how anything you say might possibly be perceived by people not understanding what you’re really saying, then you might as well just shut up entirely because, trust me, there’ll ALWAYS be somebody more than willing to take offense at anything you might say.

    Hey, it’s what we’ve allowed our country to become: A collection of grief-mongering weenies constantly on the lookout for something to be offended about, because only by being a victim of some perceived insult can you gain relevance.

    It makes me sick to the back of my teeth to see how a once proud nation has been reduced to a horde of faggots, girly-men, wimps and pissants.

    To return to what you’re talking about, how something directed at somebody in particular can be perceived as insulting to a group in general, let’s suppose that somebody were to write an article or make a statement about a bunch of retarded Europeans doing something stupid, referring to them as “Eurotrash.”

    Am I now, because of my birth, supposed to be grievously and mortally offended?

    Fuck no. I know who it was directed at.

    If the shoe doesn’t fit, don’t be a moron and wear it.

  48. Unregistered Comment by cas

    Hi all,
    The point that you all raise about–the freedom to say what you think–its totally valid. And the idea of standing up as a minority and saying–”Hell Yes!. I am _________ and proud of it!” is something I heartily endorse. But, and this is my but, my experience watching kids cut each other to fit the norms of what they think is “masculine” or “american” works against this claim. Its one thing to say, “I’m _____”, its another to end up on the receiving end of your peers insults, social isolation, and all the other costs that come with “coming out” for example. I never thought anything of what these kids said to each other–”It’s just kids” until I saw how it really hurt kids, squashed the difference and individuality that we want them to have. My point is this: Coulter (in my opinion) is an entertainer–a clown or jester. She is good at what she does. Yet, there are a lot of people who take her seriously. Impressionable people. It just reinforces stereotypes and negatively affects the public discourse. More people should just say–you are out of line on it. That also is a message that gets heard by impressionable people.

    More to add, but I have to go and do school teachery things–and there are no offsets…

  49. Mope, Imperial Knucklehead Comment by Mope, Imperial Knucklehead

    Cas, I for one, appreciate your sincerity. I also applaud you for coming here to state your case. Although…(of course there is a dot dot dot…) let’s examine what you said:

    But, and this is my but, my experience watching kids cut each other to fit the norms of what they think is “masculine” or “american” works against this claim.

    Cas, if children could get away with calling each other “bunny rabbits” they only achieve their goal when the ‘bunny rabbit’ is offended. In other words, you can NOT stop children from creating a pecking order.

    Let me try another way. If I called you, say, a “number 8″,is it my label that offends you? Or is it the the understanding you have of what “number 8″ means? (Do you grade your pupils on what you tell them, or what they hear?)

    Next,let’s move on to:

    …its another to end up on the receiving end of your

    peers insults, social isolation, and all the other costs that come with “coming out” for example

    Here’s a clue, Cas, if you are ‘coming out’ why be ashamed? I personally don’t give a rat’s ass what two people doin their bedroom, but why do I need to hear the details? I don’t give a shit.

    Why can’t eveyone just put their panties back on and not show everyone their business? I’ve seen a naked woman once. I had been called names. What the fuck? Can we protect everyone from everything? Don’t we have more important things to do?

    [Mope, I tweaked this a bit so it would say what I think you meant - not show instead of now show.  I figure that’s worth at least a couple offsets. (grin)  -S.]

    Finally, this:

    It just reinforces stereotypes and negatively affects the public discourse.

    I’m sorry, I must have missed you saying this when former president Clinton claimed oral sex wasn’t sex. Do you care to add whether or not your pupils still believe that? I’ll take silence as a yes.

    In any event, Cas, it’s good to know you are trying you level best to indoctrinate the childrens.

  50. LC MoMinuteMan Comment by LC MoMinuteMan

    I’m pretty sure I’ve posted this here before, but after reading Caveman’s comment @ #46, it seems to fit and pretty much describes who would get my vote for the next President…

    (copied from my blog…)

    I ran across this on The Net a couppla years ago, don’t remember where, when or who composed it, but it pretty accurately nails me and most all the guys I know who are PBC’s (The newly coined phrase “Pre-Bizzaro Child”, to describe those of us who were raised by responsible parents before The United States turned into Bizzaro-World)…

    “After searching for my sexual identity. I finally discovered it and I can no longer keep it in the closet. I am here to openly announce that I am a Retrosexual.

    My Retrosexuality is defined by the following Retrosexual code:

    A Retrosexual, no matter what the women insists, pays for the date.

    A Retrosexual opens doors for a lady. Even for the ones that fit that term only because they are female.

    A Retrosexual DEALS WITH SHIT. Be it a flat tire, break-in into your home, or a natural disaster, you FUCKING DEAL WITH IT.

    A Retrosexual not only eats red meat, he often kills it himself.

    A Retrosexual doesn’t worry about living to be 90. It’s not how long you live, but how well. If you’re 90 years old and still smoking cigars and drinking, I salute you.

    A Retrosexual does not use more hair or skin products than a woman. Women have several supermarket aisles of stuff. Retrosexuals need an endcap. (possibly 2 endcaps if you include shaving goods.)

    A Retrosexual does not dress in clothes from Hot Topic when he’s 30 years old .

    A Retrosexual should know how to properly kill stuff (or people) if need be. This falls under the “DEALING WITH SHIT” portion of The Code.

    A Retrosexual watches no TV show with “Queer” in the title.

    A Retrosexual does not let neighbors fuck up rooms in his house on national TV.

    A Retrosexual should not give up excessive amounts of manliness for poontang. Some is inevitable, but major re-invention of yourself will only lead to you becoming a froo-froo little puss, and in the long run, she ain’t worth it.

    A Retrosexual is allowed to seek professional help for major mental stress such as drug/alcohol addiction, death of your entire family in a freak treechipper accident, favorite sports team being moved to a different city etc. You are NOT allowed to see a shrink because Daddy didn’t pay you enough attention. Daddy was busy DEALING WITH SHIT. When you fucked up, he DEALT WITH YOU. Buck up pussy.

    A Retrosexual will have at least one outfit in his wardrobe designed to conceal himself from prey.

    A Retrosexual knows how to tie a fucking windsor knot when wearing a tie.

    A Retrosexual does not strip naked, get into a sweat lodge, and bang on drums to bond with other guys. That shit is gay. However dressing in kilts, banging on drums around a campfire and drinking heavily is just fine.

    A Retrosexual should have at least one good wound he can brag about getting.

    A Retrosexual knows how to use a basic set of tools. If you can’t hammer a damn nail, or drill a straight hole, practice in secret until you can or be rightfully ridiculed for the wuss that you be.

    A Retrosexual’s asshole is an exit ramp on the road of life. Ladies, contrary to what Cosmo says, spontaneously sticking a finger back there is a good way to be launched off the bed (or if Hooters hotwings have been recently consumed, lose a finger). Make you a deal, we won’t mess with your’s unless you want us to, and you won’t mess with our’s… period.

    A Retrosexual will buy feminine hygine products if he has to, but only under protest.This falls under unpleasant things you have to fucking DEAL WITH. Get some Hagen-Daas while your at it.

    A Retrosexual gives a lady his seat on the bus/subway/etc.

    A Retrosexual does not order an apple martini at the bar. A Martini has fucking Vodka and vermouth in it dammit. And maybe an olive. In fact, why not just get a shot of Vodka??”

  51. Unregistered Comment by Lord Spatula I, King & Tyrant

    (copied from my blog…)

    …and promptly stolen.

  52. L.C. Rowane Comment by L.C. Rowane

    Twice :thumbup_tb:

  53. juandos Comment by juandos

    Yeah, maybe lumping gay folk with someone like John Edwards is more than a bit insulting but then again it seems that the definition of, “faggot” has changed with the passage of time…

    Back in the sixties and seventies in south Texas faggot was just another term for, “sissy“…

    My apologies to Nixcell…

  54. Unregistered Comment by Cheryl

    A Retrosexual DEALS WITH SHIT. Be it a flat tire, break-in into your home, or a natural disaster, you FUCKING DEAL WITH IT.

    Reminds me that yesterday, I witnessed a young woman, dressed in her Sunday best, changing a tire whilst the two men she was with stood and watched. Of course, this is Manhattan AKA metrosexual hell.

    A Retrosexual’s asshole is an exit ramp on the road of life. Ladies, contrary to what Cosmo says, spontaneously sticking a finger back there is a good way to be launched off the bed

    :ohmy_tb: :nono_tb:

    Cosmo said whut??! No, an anus is made for one purpose only. In fact, I have a phobia regarding that particular exit cavity. Even looking at an anatomically correct drawing would have the same effect on me as someone holding up a particularly revolting and large cockroach. :sick_ee: :glurps_tb: :cry_tb:

  55. Unregistered Comment by Cheryl

    #53
    Juandos

    You’re right about the term “faggot” changing with time. Back in 1950s NY a fag could mean a pansy or someone timid, but also referred to someone - either male or female - who was a klutz, who couldn’t do anything right.

  56. LC Mrs. M-ITT™ Comment by LC Mrs. M-ITT™

    No, an anus is made for one purpose only.

    Makes you wonder what the Zoning Planners were up to, to put a Waste Disposal Plant so close to a recreational area. :lol_wp: :lol_wp:

  57. Unregistered Comment by Cheryl

    #56 LOL :lol1_wp: :lol_ee:

    Good observation, Mrs. M. Maybe it was to keep us humble and on our toes. :shuteye_ee::ponder_tb: :embarrassed_ee:

  58. Unregistered Trackback by Something... and Half of Something

    Okay, I’m Offended….

    Enough emails. My official opinion: I have said things about John Edwards, John Kerry, Ted Kennedy, Hillary Clinton and the rest of the democrats that are certainly offensive and that make Ann Coulter sound like a nun. I speak for……

  59. Wild Thing Comment by Wild Thing

    Misha once again you are brillant!!! Gawd I love how you think!

    God bless Ann!

  60. Radical Redneck Comment by Radical Redneck

    No, an anus is made for one purpose only…Makes you wonder what the Zoning Planners were up to, to put a Waste Disposal Plant so close to a recreational area

    How do we know a Polack invented woman - who else would put a shithole next to a snack bar! :devil_tb: :tongue3_tb:

  61. Lady Heather Comment by Lady Heather

    …and promptly stolen.

    I’m stealing it too. For vital public information dissemination, of course

    :tongue1_tb:

  62. Unregistered Trackback by Theodore's World

    Thanks Ann For NOT Being A PC Sell Out…

    First I want to say that I am more then surprised that this whole thing has been made into something sooooo huge. It just shocks me how some silly joke has turned into what it has. I was not……