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Because, without them, what would we have left to write about?
Some politician in Virginia, in response to a ridiculous motion to have the State of Virginia apologize to blacks for slavery (in other words: Having a bunch of people who never owned slaves apologize to a bunch of people who never were slaves for never having enslaved them, or something equally astronomically asinine), got up to say that having today’s citizens of Virginia apologize for slavery would be no less monumentally absurd and idiotic than demanding that the Jews apologize for having killed Jesus Christ.
In the real world, this is what is often referred to as “common sense.”
In PC-land, it’s called “Holocaust Denial.”
Listen, and listen really carefully: I have had it way past my back teeth with this PC crap, particularly from schlemiels and schmekels who obviously don’t know what the meaning of the word “analogy” is.
As a Christian, I believe that I’d qualify as a member of the Aggrieved Party™ in re: Jesus Christ, the killing of.
Yet, for some reason obviously known only to me, I don’t feel particularly Aggrieved™ at all. As a matter of fact, I have absolutely no grievance against my Jewish brothers and sisters regarding something that took place long before any of us were born. Imagine that. I guess that I, unlike a lot of people, have actually been infected with that vile disease known as “cognitive abilities.”
You see, theological observations regarding G-d’s Plan™ aside and, assuming for the moment that the death of Jesus wasn’t Meant to Be™ as those of us who believe KNOW that it was, even SO I can’t possibly find it in myself to believe that the Jews of today owe me a damn thing, least of all an apology, for something that happened centuries before they and I were even a lustful glint in our parents’ eyes.
So why in the name of Pluto’s crispy scrotal hair is it that this same dose of common sense does NOT apply to slavery?
And why does pointing it out make one a Holocaust Denier, a group of slime-sucking scum that I’d be privileged to castrate with a rusty butter knife?
Don’t anybody even TRY to load me with White Guilt™ over something that was done to people long dead long before I even set foot on these shores.
Because if you DO try, I’ll be more than happy to shove it down your throats.
After having thoughtfully wrapped it around a nail-studded 2 by 4, of course.
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As the late, great Cleavon Little put it, and I do believe he said it the best,
Fuck ‘em, and feed ‘em fishheads.
January 16th, 2007 at 10:04 PMUsing
Almost forget, I’m incapable of feeling white, or any other shade of guilt since I have no soul. At least, that’s what my pastor tells me.
January 16th, 2007 at 10:10 PMUsing
Holocaust Denier? How in the blazes one can make that monumental a leap is abso-figgin-lutely beyond me.
It just goes to show, if they can’t debate you with facts, they just resort to the “racist, bigot, sexist, homophobe” meme. If you continue to argue your original point you are ignoring the charges of “racist, etc…”, thereby confirming it. If you defend your honor and answer the charges, they hit you with the “raw nerve..” argument.
Then the headline reads “Conservative denies he’s a holocaust denier”. Not “…refutes charges of…”, or anything of the like. Put it out that you had to “deny” a charge and you may as well be saying “allegedly” and “all suspects are innocent until proven guilty in a court of law”. Anyone reading it goes, “Yeah, sure your not” and it’s a done deal.
Gotta admit, they have that play down cold.
January 16th, 2007 at 10:18 PMUsing
What ever happened to personal responsibility?Hargroves comment was an attempt to stop the posturing for special consideration because of ones parentage.Pettiness is rampant in America.Its also lucritive if your name is Jesse Jackson or Al Sharpton.It IS time to get over it.The people crabbing about his comments are the same ones who stand to benefit from reparations.
January 16th, 2007 at 10:34 PMPie anyone?
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Hammer. Strikes. Nail. On. Head.
This is exactly why I have to choke down the urge to beat the everloving crap out of any fool silly enough to start flapping their gums about slavery reparations in my presence.
“But we paid reparation to the Japanese” *sniveling with the indignity of it all*
“Yes, but we paid it to the people who actually sufferred from the conduct, not their great-grandchildren, who had the opportunity to stand or fall on the merits of their own choices!”
Honestly. This kind of thnking will be the death of us all. This is what passes for serious and important thinking in my profession today:
http://www.wsba.org/media/publications/barnews/nov06-daniels.htm
I note that it was authored by a local law student, but the undercurrent of contempt for those who would consider this type of behavior to be illegal is sickening. I already dropped my membership in the ABA because I don’t disagree with their political activities. I have avoided becoming a member of the King County Bar Association because of their enthusiastic embrace of the gay culture and its political agenda, and now this. I’m starting to consider becoming a plumber.
January 16th, 2007 at 11:09 PMUsing
ooopps! How un-nuanced of me…I meant to say embrace of the gay/lesbian/transgendered (which in another era would have meant pathetically confused) culture and its political agenda.
January 16th, 2007 at 11:11 PMUsing
Seems to me the apology is mostly ceremonial.
Well, ceremonial and the basis of an assload of civil suits I’m sure. For one thing, the apology would establish ownership of the wrongdoing and I’m pretty sure the ACLU could wave away any statute of limitations motion with tears, shouting and cries of racism.
January 16th, 2007 at 11:30 PMUsing
If today’s Virginia has to apologize for slavery, shouldn’t today’s music industry apologize for lionizing the drug culture?
Shouldn’t today’s Spain and Portugal apologize for importing their corrupt political cultures to what is now Latin America?
Shouldn’t todays’s Russia apologize for the Partitions of Poland? (And who apologizes for Prussia’s role?)
Shouldn’t today’s Europe apologize for failing to cooperate in bolstering the Byzantine Empire, the last bulwark between Eastern Europe and hostile Islamic empires?
Shouldn’t President Bush, Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid apologize for passage of the Alien and Sedition Acts and the Smoot-Hawley Tariff?
Shouldn’t Condoleezza Rice apologize for the Paris Peace Accords that sealed the fate of South Vietnam?
Shouldn’t Chief Justice John Roberts apologize for Dred Scot v. Sandford, Roe v. Wade, and Kelo v. City of New London?
January 16th, 2007 at 11:41 PMUsing
What I want to know is when are we going to get an apology for disco? At least most people admit that slavery was a bad thing….
January 17th, 2007 at 12:01 AMUsing
If Virginia needs to appologize for slavery then Germany needs to apologize for allowing Karl Marx to be born.
RH
January 17th, 2007 at 1:20 AMUsing
I would agree with NCLivingBrit that the real interest here is in the money.
There are a lot of folks out there who don’t see the connection between work and wealth: which is why socialists see the wealthy as evil rather than tirelessly hard-working.
These folks have a belief in their own innate value: simply by merit of existing they should have the same kind of wealth as those who work hard and build businesses. So these folks would much rather play the litigation lottery. Isn’t it funny how the people who cause most societal offence seem to have the biggest bank accounts?
A ‘mea culpa’ here would open the floodgates to another round of wealth ‘redistribution’. Funny how socialists never quite get that the wealth is where it is supposed to be and doesn’t need redistributing. I guess that is the difference between those who ‘feel’ their way through life and those who ‘think’ their way..
January 17th, 2007 at 3:47 AMUsing
Well there is one glaring problem with Idiotarians… They all seem to work in what now passes for news media in this country…
I’ve been scanning for the last ninty minutes or so the following: CNN, CBS, ABC, MSNBC, and Fox News Channel and I’ve yet to hear anything of the following: Al Qaeda flees Baghdad which I’ve found on Pajama Media…
Iraq the Model has the following: What? Already running away!?
“Troop Surge having an effect already“?!?!
January 17th, 2007 at 6:54 AMUsing
Once again, we see a corollary between our friends on the Left, and Terrorists.
“Cut n’ Run”
January 17th, 2007 at 7:55 AMUsing
I for one am not apologizing for something my family had nothing to do with. First off, I tracked my heritage. One half of my family was Scotch-Irish working class that fled before the Revolution and the rest during the Potato Famine, so if anyone is owed money it be the Bacons and the Murphys. And second, the other half fled the Austrian-Hungarian Empire rather than fight for the mad emperor and his bud Kaiser Wilhelm II. So if anyone wants reparations from me, they can kiss my ass, OK?
You want reparations? Prove your family was in slavery and maybe you’ll get some pity. Otherwise, stop it already! There’s millions of LEGAL IMMIGRANTS and natural born citizens that are working and demanding no special treatment. Learn by example, not by the growing hordes of Illegals that want special treatment, a free ride, and never have to learn the language of the majority. Bunches of my fam were immigrants, and they all learned frickin English. Some were second generation and fought for this country. So go f yourself you race pimps!
To the rest of the smart ones and anti-Idiotarians, bravo and keep up the fight. And despite some Democrat District Judge in Dallas trying to strike down Farmers Branch enforcing a law that’s been on the books for a century, we will enforce what we see fit.
To the new Congress, f-ck you.
To Jesse and Al, f—-ck you.
To Louis Farrakhan, CAIR, the ACLU, F-CK YOU!
OK, I feel better. Thanks for letting me vent.
January 17th, 2007 at 7:59 AMUsing
Odd that NOW the libs whip out the Holocaust Denial card (c)(r)(tm) when the subject isn’t even denial of the Holocaust, and yet the Media don’t use the Holocaust Denial card (c)(r)(tm) when Ahmadenijad is holding his Holocaust Deniers 2006 Convention. I guess that since the Media is so used to anti-Semitism coming from whacked-out Muslims that they don’t find it newsworthy.
If you actually *read* the Bible, the Romans were the ones who captured the one Mr. Jesus H. Christ, they were the ones who tried him, and the Roman occupational governor -one Pilate- did nothing to commute the guy’s death sentence. So really it was the Romans who killed Jesus, and so we don’t need to be using the Holocaust Denial card (c)(r)(tm) when someone alludes to Jews apologizing for the death of Jesus. But even so, if I were to go to Venice and demand an apology for the death of Jesus from some random Italian -long-distance heir to the long-dead Roman Empire- they’re look at my funny and think I’m nuts.
And the giant pink elephant sitting in the corner of the room that no one wants to notice is that slavery has made life better for a number of the descendants of slaves. Let’s face it, without their ancestors being captured by other slaving African tribes or enslaving Muslims, scam-artists like “Rev.” Jesse Jackson and “Rev.” Al Sharpton wouldn’t be in the positions they’re in, and they’d instead be in Africa were they would be forced to compete with the current money-grubbing criminals in positions of political power. No slavery, no Louis Armstrong, no Jimi Hendrix, no Ray Charles or Stevie Wonder. No slavery, no Fredrick Douglas, no Rosa Parks, no Martin Luther King Jr. Without slavery, there’d be no rap…….. well, Virginia can apologize for that if they need to apologize for slavery.
January 17th, 2007 at 8:03 AMUsing
What was, was. What is, is.
January 17th, 2007 at 8:47 AMUsing
Romans killed Jesus–pretty sure that Jews did not execute by crucifixion. Compare/contrast- -African Americans and Africans in Africa, e.g. Somalia, Eritrea, Uganda, etc. Seems some folks need to be saying thanks instead of whining for unwarranted apologies.
January 17th, 2007 at 8:59 AMUsing
Uh, my grandparents came here as immigrants - do I have to apologize too? (Extends left hand with center finger prominent) I got yer apology right here!!
Seriously, though, Misha - to YOU I have to apologize - I use a number of your more “colorful” descriptions and don’t credit the author.
is just pure poetry!
January 17th, 2007 at 9:22 AMUsing
My dear, dread Lord and Emperor - as many have already said:
One of my Virginia blog-brothers quite agrees with you (and if y’all want to give him an encouraging Rottie-lanche, *I’d* take it as a personal favor)… As do I!
Isn’t it terrible that there are so many whiners and pissants in this Great and G-d Blessed Country?!
– LC & IB Kat, GLOR
January 17th, 2007 at 9:26 AMhttp://www.CatHouseChat.com
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Oops - somehow my “SPOT ON!” after “already said” didn’t come thru…
January 17th, 2007 at 9:27 AMUsing
Hey–I think paying repartions to blacks for slavery is a great idea–provided they agree to pay reparations to us for all the carjackings, murders, welfare checks, robberies, etc. Also, since the idea of reparations is based on a kind of “original sin” philosopy, they would have to agree that if any of their ancestors had ever commited a crime, they would be punished for it. If your great-great grandaddy was a slave, you get a check. If your grandad murdered someone, you get hung. What could be more fair?
January 17th, 2007 at 9:28 AMUsing
No apologies…
My Virginia blog brother, Jerry Fuhrman, and my WAR blog brother (mm, “blog Liege”?) Misha are both all over this story - A resolution that would have the General Assembly apologize for Virginia’s role in slavery has aroused passions in…
January 17th, 2007 at 9:46 AMUsing
I don’t need to apologize for anything. Ken Hamblin (The Black Avenger)(read about him here: http://www.grunt.com/scuttlebutt/corps-stories/patriotic/avenger.asp)sent me a certificate years ago absolving me of my white guilt.
So, I’m set.
January 17th, 2007 at 9:56 AMUsing
Dj:
Doesn’t it sort of depend on what “is” is?
January 17th, 2007 at 10:06 AMUsing
Fine…they want reparations?? All the one way tickets back to where ever they came from (if they can bother to make the effort to find out where that is) that they want. Then they are more than welcome to pick up where their ancestors left off…most likely running around trying to hunt down some water buffalo for dinner.
Heaven forbid that we force them to stay here in this country, being allowed to drive cars, vote, own homes, have jobs, receive welfare checks, shoot each other, stash $90,000 in their freezers, blackmail anyone that dares to try to call them out for the race baiting Pimps that they are (a la’ Jesse and Al), build “Chocolate Cities”, and most of all…follow the very party that bought and sold them into slavery in the first place, cause perish the thought that they might have to make the effort to leave the politically correct Plantation and become productive, self sufficient citizens and all…ya know?
True that the Romans were the ones that carried out the actual crucifixion, but I believe that the reason that the Jews are blamed for it is found in the passages of Matthew, chapter 27, vs. 15-26:
They were given the chance to have Christ released, and chose instead to have a dangerous criminal freed.
I’m most certainly NOT saying that they are to blame, because that blame lies on every single breathing human being that has ever come into this world because of our burden of sin, but this is where the general blame that they had him crucified comes from.
January 17th, 2007 at 10:24 AMUsing
Why DJ, that was so…NOT liberal of you!
January 17th, 2007 at 10:48 AMUsing
VOTE DEM IN ‘08
January 17th, 2007 at 10:49 AMCALL 1-800-COW-ARDS
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I’d be more than happy to vote for reparations and apologies for blacks so long as few stipulations were added.
1) Reparation and apology packages include a one-way ticket to their country of ancestry.
January 17th, 2007 at 10:55 AM2) All those accepting said package must surrender their U.S. citizenship.
3) All race-based entitlement programs will discontinue, this being an all-encompassing package.
4) Those ‘leaders’ who fought for such a package (Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton, Louis Farrakhan, et al.) *must* accept said package.
I think that’s fair, all in all, and I didn’t even get into the acknowledgment of blacks having sold blacks into slavery… or the fact that blacks and Muslims (in some parts of the world) own slaves still today.
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I see Mrs. M STILL doesn’t have her flag…Are you perhaps a woman without a country, Mrs. M?
January 17th, 2007 at 10:57 AMUsing
Ja ..umm…that’s not it..
Oui …hmm…nope
Ναι ….don’t think so
Sì …absolutely not
Sim ….not even close
Да ….not it either
Yes ..Ah HA…there we are….
It would appear so SkyeChild.
Guess I can just wander around and be anyone I want to be… :undecided_tb:
[Busted !!!- :surrender_tb: –JB !!]
January 17th, 2007 at 11:21 AMUsing
I want those pasty faced Angles and Saxons to pay reparations for soiling my Norman ancestors’ blades with their blood.
It takes time to clean that stuff off … and if you don’t the stains won’t come off. Conquering peasants is psychologically draining … they still haven’t paid enough for their arrogance in defying their masters.
January 17th, 2007 at 1:25 PMUsing
I’m baffled at the Anti Semitism claim myself. It’s weird reading the comments over at Hot Air. I think I’ll go back to DU and read how they think ‘24′ is really some evil Republikkkan propoganda show.
January 17th, 2007 at 2:28 PMUsing
Well, like many ‘discussions’ with liberals, this is similar to the old President’s Day Sale commercial from Highland Appliance (for those of you who grew up in Michigan are old enough to remember) in which Washington and Franklin [yes, I know, but I didn’t write the damn thing…I was all of six the first time I saw the ad] are trading little sayings until Washington said “A stich in time saves nine.” to which Franklin starts looking around frantically like a Koskid engaing in an argument with a conservative without having memorized the day’s approved talking points from DU HQ, and he said “Well, never eat spinich with a stranger!”
January 17th, 2007 at 2:58 PMTo sum it up, when caught without any real point to make, they’ll either fall back on enmotion “Bush lied! Bush is war criminal! Bush is eevvvviill!” or play a card that they believe has gotten them points in the past: “Holocaust Denier!”
Don’t look for logic. You’ll only frustrate yourself.
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January 17th, 2007 at 3:18 PMUsing
Yeah, but this claim seems to come from Hot Air, a conservative site.
January 17th, 2007 at 3:29 PMUsing
My ancestors arrived here courtesy of King George III, They were some of the Hessians, brought over to pacify the colonies…..
Good King George III, left them here.
When will the Queen apologize for that?!
Whoops, let me thank Her for the favor her ancestor bestowed upon my family.
January 17th, 2007 at 3:38 PMUsing
Sire,
Exclusive: Jimmy Carter Interceded on Behalf of Nazi SS Guard
http://www.israelnationalnews.com/news.php3?id=119732
January 17th, 2007 at 4:54 PMUsing
If asshat Clinton can apologize to the World At Large for the Crusades (which the peckerhead presumably knows better than to do; or didn’t he study history at college?), then ANYTHING’s possible.
January 17th, 2007 at 5:13 PMUsing
If Virginia needs to apologize for anything, it’s putting that useless fat fuck Webb in the Senate…..what a bloated waste of skin, and a shame to all of us other Vietnam Vets…plus the fat fuck is a poor writer.
hOOt
January 17th, 2007 at 6:00 PMUsing
Wut Dave sed. :thumbup_tb:
Isn’t there some group with a name that supposedly meant this, yet couldn’t get over it for the past six (6) years or so? Oh yeah… “MoveOn.org”. (Or, as we like to call it, down in The Imperial
DungeonGame Room™, “MoveOutOfYourParentsBasement.orgasm”.:lol_wp:
January 17th, 2007 at 6:05 PMUsing
I find many things done in the name of God repulsive. Be it the crusades or suicide bombing innocent men women and children whose only crime is being a target. I also find it repulsive listening to some idiotarian secularist politician or judge telling me as a Christian what I should do, think and say when they could care less what the Bible really has to say about anything. PC is truly demented.
I’m finishing “Atlas Shrugged” (read it about 15 years ago). A few good points mixed with loony-bin philosophy that if followed will be ensure that you die old and bitter. The good in the book is about the looters and the producers. Just as Orwell foresaw the future of the USSSR, Rand has a good understanding on this point of economics. Bottom line, we have a target rich environment of looters.
Americans (all 15% of the USA’s population) are already displaying the symptoms of revulsion, rebellion and deep seated unrevocable loathing at what both major political parties are trying to ram. It won’t be fun, but it will be interesting what gets rammed back. If it ever comes to armed revolt in this country It will be ugly. If not it may be uglier still.
January 17th, 2007 at 6:17 PMUsing
Hargrove is the man!
slavery ended nearly 140 years ago with the Civil War and added, “I personally think that our black citizens should get over it.”… :clap_tb:
“Black House of Delegates members swiftly denounced the comments Hargrove made on the holiday commemorating the Rev. Martin Luther King Jr.”…
Then the Black House of Delegates members quickly chartered a large, ocean going barge threatening to move back to the motherland…
Oh wait! That was tried and funny how it is now one of the finest examples of failure… :lol_wp:
January 17th, 2007 at 6:39 PMUsing
I, personally, feel no need to apologize for something that was outlawed 93 years before I was born. I’ve never been a slave, owned a slave, or beaten a slave, and neither has any other American Citizen, so get off my ass about it, already. I gave at the office.
Trivia Question: What was the last State to outlaw Slavery?
Hint - it wasn’t a Confederate State, as all of them had slavery outlawed by Presidential Order on 1 January 1863 (Emancipation Proclamation.)
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What bothers me most about this is that it is happening in a REPUBLICAN legislature, in a Conservative State.
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Give up?
Maryland, by adopting a new constitution, outlawed the institution of slavery on 1 November 1894, after the end of the War of Northern Aggression.
Just thought you would like to know.
January 17th, 2007 at 6:48 PMUsing
Can I get an Amen on that?
January 17th, 2007 at 6:52 PMThey need to keep in mind that their ancestors would jump for joy to have the freedom and opportunities that their descendants have today, and would also kick their sorry, spoiled asses for becoming a bunch of bratty, lazy, welfare dependent sponges.
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juandos:
In the Commonwealth of Virginia, the holiday is known as “Lee-Jackson Day”.
January 17th, 2007 at 6:53 PMUsing
Hey, the majority of us are not idiots, much how you’d like to paint us with a broad brush.
Most Americans have a conscience collective history going back about ten years. Many of us have trouble remembering a car we owned, or a friend we knew ten years ago. We are more concerned with the here and now going into the future, than what happened fifty, one hundred, five hundred years ago.
Was slavery a bad thing? Of course it was. It happened, and the only thing we can really do about it now is to make sure it doesn’t happen again. Making symbolic apologies isn’t going to change the past, nor is it going to help us in the future.
January 17th, 2007 at 7:15 PMUsing
Dave, sometimes you give me great hope for the future of the Democrat Party.
If both our parties could somehow magically trim off the 10% of the idiots we both seem to have an surplus of, I suspect that we would all be much better off.
That is, via magic, or by bringing back “Coffee and Pistols at Dawn”.
January 17th, 2007 at 7:27 PMUsing
Hmmm, most won’t admit it but as Mrs. M noted, slavery ended up as the best thing that happened to today’s blacks who were the decendents of the original slaves…
Dr. Thomas Sowell in his excellent book: “Applied Economics: Thinking Beyond Stage One” explains it better than anyone I know of…
Hey Wil, I personally have wondered why it wasn’t George Washington Carver who didn’t get the day that was given to M.L. King…
If anyone helped bring people up out of lower classes, created better living conditions, and put people more people to work it was Dr. Carver and his wide breadth of scientific investigations…
Dr. Carver was a man anyone could easily admire…
January 17th, 2007 at 8:14 PMUsing
George Washington Carver believed in limited Government, making your own way, and self sufficiency.
Not a hero since 1964 and the victimization movement. Sorry.
January 17th, 2007 at 8:23 PMUsing
DJ, by showing that you are capable of rational thought, you have removed yourself from the ‘us’ that you still identify with.
I’m confused. Most of the liberals I know who would be speaking the loudest on this subject would never concede the sacred symbolic apology, and would never ever advocate educating oneself on the subject, at least not without handing out an approved reading list first. Can’t jeopardize the monopoly on power by allowing the masses to read something that might provoke them to ask questions that run counter to the official dogma.
I think maybe you’re slowly being converted, DJ.
January 17th, 2007 at 8:37 PMUsing
juandos,
I remember this guy in connection to the “Back to Africa” movement:
http://www.marcusgarvey.com/
The text in school, which was short on detail— it was publik screwal–escapes me entirely, but the photo I remember. I always thought of it as somewhat prescient in terms of what Africa would suffer for most of the 20th Century..
January 17th, 2007 at 8:45 PMUsing
I guess Katrina wasn’t enough. These self-haters make my gut churn. Disgusting, ingratiating fops!
January 17th, 2007 at 8:52 PMUsing
January 17th, 2007 at 8:53 PM
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Hardly. I haven’t changed one iota on this.
The Republican Party is a fairly close-knit party. The Democrat Party is made up of many different factions that have different areas where people intersect. I don’t follow Party Line on everything — not like Republicans do. I disagree with a lot of areas in the Democrat Party.
January 17th, 2007 at 9:48 PMUsing
Well I no longer consider myself Republican…I only vote for them because that’s all we have. I’m Conservative and not following any Party line. Personally the Repubs are DemLights as far as I’m concerned. If a Conservative, or Constitutional Party were to be a viable contender in the Political Arena I’ll jump in fast as Bill Clinton’s dockers can drop to the floor.
January 17th, 2007 at 10:17 PMWe just got the usual National Republican Party “Send us more money so we can screw you in the ass longer” letter in the mail this week. I’m sending it all back in their pre-paid envelope and telling them they can stick it up their anal cavities because until they grow some balls and defend the borders, let the Military fight like a Military is trained to do, and tell Fat Teddy, Nuanced Nancy, Mushface Murtha, and Raghead Rangle to go “Cheney” themselves…they aren’t getting one single damn dime from us ever again.
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Arguing along these lines is almost the same as saying “The Jews should stop whining about the holocaust, after all they got their Zionist state because of it.”
Absolutely putrid. Here’s a big hearty “FUCK YOU” to the racist bitch who just called all our black citizens spoiled, lazy, and welfare dependent sponges. Everybody knows that if there’s a group in this country that “sponges” up all the resources, it is the blacks. :thumbdown_tb:
January 18th, 2007 at 2:34 AMUsing
Hmmm, on which planet is this the case?
Ooh! We have that good old time idiocy striking hard & true: “Here’s a big hearty “FUCK YOU” to the racist bitch who just called all our black citizens spoiled, lazy, and welfare dependent sponges. Everybody knows that if there’s a group in this country that “sponges” up all the resources, it is the blacks“…
Funny but if you are refering to the lovely Mrs. M (#45) I think Menshevik is indicating a problem with reading and comprehending simple English since she posted: “They need to keep in mind that their ancestors would jump for joy to have the freedom and opportunities that their descendants have today, and would also kick their sorry, spoiled asses for becoming a bunch of bratty, lazy, welfare dependent sponges“…
Funny but I didn’t see that word, “all” in her comment for instance…
Hey Menshevik, it seems you are suffering from libtard syndrome and maybe you should seek some professional help from Dr. Kevorkian…
Just trying to help you dude because doG knows you need it…
January 18th, 2007 at 6:37 AMUsing
Blackiswhite, Imperial Agent Provocateur (#52) says: “I remember this guy in connection to the “Back to Africa” movement“…
Well in the immortal words of Wil (#50): “Not a hero since 1964 and the victimization movement. Sorry“…
Why? MAN KNOW THYSELF:
January 18th, 2007 at 6:48 AMFor man to know himself is for him to feel that for him there is no human master. For him Nature is his servant, and whatsoever he wills in Nature, that shall be his reward. If he wills to be a pigmy, a serf or a slave, that shall he be. If he wills to be a real man in possession of the things common to man, then he shall be his own sovereign. When man fails to grasp his authority he sinks to the level of the lower animals, and whatsoever the real man bids him do, even as if it were of the lower animals, that much shall he do… (there is more)
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Oh my…I actually attracted the attention of a troll. How sweet. *snark*
Ok..let’s get one thing perfectly clear here right off the bat…
When you address me dickwad, you WILL address me as MRS. BITCH. I spent alot of years earning that title and I damn well expect you to use it. Got that cupcake?
Now as for your hearty little FUCK YOU, you can just take it and use it on yourself, because frankly I don’t give a rats ass what you think about my comment. If you are too damn stupid to read and comprehend it’s certainly not my fault. Once again you have demonstrated the Moonbat habit of only reading what you want to and discarding the rest. If you will bother to go back and check (and I know you won’t) you will see that I did NOT use the word ALL.
Let’s look at the definition of ALL shall we?
Now…let’s review my statement:
Hmm…..let’s see here….they…..their…..opportunities….spoiled…
sponges….
Well whattaya know…not one single ALL in the whole damn sentence.
Might I suggest that next time you read ALL the words in someone’s comment before getting your mommies panties in a wad? And cut down on the caffeine, it makes your PMS flare up. mmKay?
January 18th, 2007 at 10:58 AMUsing
DJ sez:
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAH!!!! DJ that may be one of the funniest things you’ve ever written.
Sheesh. If there is a planet in which the intelligent people all agreed and voted party line consistently on things like defeating idiots and communistic bullcrap I’d LOVE to move there. Unfortunately, there isn’t such a place, other than perhaps in your demented imagination.
RH
January 18th, 2007 at 11:24 AMUsing
“Slavery was wrong!” “Slavery was cruel!” “Slavery was unjust!” Slavery was Biblical (Old and New Testament).
January 18th, 2007 at 12:19 PMBut that’s neither here nor there. If I never OWNED one, and you never WERE one, why are we even allowing this nonsnse to be aired? Besides EVERONE knows that Socialism is the new slavery.
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Well, in a way yeah, only real slaves are fed by their owners. Socialism requires one to resolutely starve to death to maintain the window dressing of success.
But if you’re talkin’ ’bout real slavery, purchased humans and all that,, we’re gonna find ourselves back in the middle of muzzyville.
That WAS funny ’bout all Republicans marching in lockstep. But, well, that’s what the liberals tell each other, so how can they know any better?
January 18th, 2007 at 3:45 PMUsing
LC Mrs. M:
[clapclapclapclapclap]
Bravo! Encore!
January 18th, 2007 at 7:01 PMUsing
Hoooieeeeee LC Mrs. M— sheesh you didn’t even leave us a grease spot.
smmaaaaaccccccckkkkkkkkk
:thumbup_tb:
January 18th, 2007 at 7:27 PMUsing
I for one second the sentiments of both Wil (#64) and JackBoot (#65)…
Yes, not “leave a grease spot” left is as good a way to describe that public spanking as one could delivered by Mrs. M! :glurps_tb:
Yes, another reminder not to piss of the lovely Mrs. M since I like my skin right where it is… :innocent1_tb:
January 18th, 2007 at 8:49 PMUsing
What it is with these shakedown artists? We need a cure.
January 18th, 2007 at 8:52 PMUsing
We have one, 11.25 grams of Pb/Cu, mechanically conjoined, administered through needleless injection.
January 18th, 2007 at 9:00 PMUsing
Ok Mrs. Bitch
The quote you say “amen” to: “Our black citizens need to get over it.” While the word “all” does not appear, it is clear that he is talking about all the blacks, not some of them. Would it be an accurate paraphrasing to say “some of our blacks need to get over it, but some of them can still be upset”? No, that is clearly not what he means.
Quibbling about the word “all” is pretty much beside the point anyway. I agree that an apology is meaningless and irrelevant. What I find mildly objectionable is that Virginia is refusing on “principle” to apologize. They should just say “yes we’re sorry, can we get on with business now?” What I find completely atrocious is your implication that blacks should be thankful that we enslaved their anscestors.
On any given day I can find the people on this site wax poetic about how lucky and proud they are to be born into the historical circumstances they were born to. But as soon as a black mentions historical disadvantages they were born into we get the standard conservative lecture on personal responsibility and accusations of black laziness and ungratefulness and how they just want to take what the White Man has earned- all the same drivel you can read over at Stormfront.
January 18th, 2007 at 11:08 PMUsing
Thank you…nice to see you finally learned some manners.
What good is an apology in this day and age? Is there anyone living in Virginia, governing Virginia, driving through Virginia, or any other state in this country at this present time that had anything to do with the slave trade, or owning slaves over 100 years ago? THOSE are the people you need to be demanding an apology from. NOT people living in the here and now that didn’t have a damn thing to do with it. Even if any of them are descendants of slave owners or traders…they STILL had nothing to do with it. It was NOT their decision for their fore fathers to engage in slavery.
You will have no problem finding people to admit slavery was wrong. It was a blight on our country. It turned families against families. But running around demanding apologies from people that had nothing to do with it makes absolutely NO sense at all.
Is an apology going to change the fact that it happened? No.
Is an apology going to make you a different person? No.
Is an apology going to change the space time continuem and wipe those incidents out of existence? No.
It doesn’t mean a damn thing except you got some people to cave in to “White Guilt” and apologize for something they had absolutely nothing to do with. That’s a very empty meaningless apology if you ask me.
There you go again…trying to put words in my mouth. Let me once AGAIN remind you of what I said..and not what you THINK I “implied”.
I am NOT implying that blacks should be thankful for slavery. My point is that they need to stop and remind themselves that they now have more freedom and opportunities at their disposal than their ancestors ever dreamed of having, because there is no turning back the clock. There is no going back to change what was, therefore…stop the never ending demands for apologies from people that had nothing to do with incidents of long ago. Stop the incessant screechings of Reparations, and be glad that you CAN do what those ancestors WOULD do if they themselves were able to live as present day blacks can.
January 19th, 2007 at 2:57 AMLIVE FREE
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You failed to quote the one sentence where I agreed that an apology is meaningless, which makes all of your rhetorical questions pointless. An apology changes absolutely nothing, so why are you so against making one? It is somewhat like the Catholic church apologizing for Galilieo. Sure it didn’t really change anything, but we can at least take the Catholic church a little bit more seriously because of it. I still don’t understand why you think the demand for an apology is some kind of threat to the Republic. Perhaps it is because you fear that if the state as an institution (not as individuals) apologizes it will be used by those who seek delegitimize the entire country’s right to govern. I feel just the opposite. If it has any effect at all, it will help to silence the type of people who endlessly denounce the USA as a currently racist regime.
I will admit that I made an unfair assumption about you after only a split second of reflection on your post, and I apologize for it. I will still refer to you as Mrs. Bitch, but be assured that I mean it as a compliment.
January 19th, 2007 at 4:07 AMUsing
Menshevik…or just a plain gutless, dickless Liberal Wigger(you know a white assclown that has never lived with or hung out with your average black, but still fights for their imagined causes)? Open minds want to know….now fuckwad, why not go back and jerk off to your favorite marxist blog, or nude photos of your new hero Barrack Hussain Obama?
hOOt
January 19th, 2007 at 8:05 AMUsing
Menshevik (#69) whines: “What I find completely atrocious is your implication that blacks should be thankful that we enslaved their anscestors“….
Hmmm, why do you find the reality of the situation, “atrocious“?
Do you think the likes of Al Sharpton, Chuck Rangel, or Jesse Jackson would’ve been better off if they were still in the Ivory Coast or Nigeria or where ever else from the African continent?
I’m willing to bet those, “race pimps” would’ve been living lives without the comforts they have in this country today…
My own experience traveling the planet since the late sixties tells me that here in the US (and maybe a few other western countries) is one of the few places that the less than mediocre parasites can make a living doing nothing productive at all…
January 19th, 2007 at 10:38 AMUsing
Because it changes absolutely nothing.
What the Catholic Church thought of Galileo didn’t change the fact that he was right in most all of his teachings, and discoveries. It doesn’t change the fact that although they tried to quell his teachings, the world still knew about him, learned from him, and accepted the truth about his discoveries despite his being branded a heretic.
Where the apology becomes significant is the fact that the Church STILL had his discoveries being deemed heretical. He was still being denounced by the Catholic Church, if only in principle, and also just plain out of habit for having done it for so damn long.
Their apology came along side an admission that he was indeed correct in the discoveries that he made, and he was restored (within the views of the Church) to his rightful place as a significant historical and scientific figure.
So while the apology did not change his standing in the eyes of the world, the Church changed it’s standing in how it viewed him through their eyes.
For the State of Virginia (or anyone for that matter) to be forced to issue an apology for slavery that had been abolished for longer than 99.9% of the people in this country has been alive, doesn’t change anything.
You will not find very many who believe it was not wrong. No one is denying that it occurred. No one has been criminalized for teaching that part of our history. The fact of it has not been stricken from our documents. Those that lived through it were not branded liers for proclaiming it occurred. We freely acknowledged it took place and we took the steps to abolish it. It was a dark time in our past. No question.
An apology changes nothing as you stated. Slavery is still abolished. Blacks are still free citizens with all the rights and privileges of anyone else. They still vote. They still go to school, they still own land, homes, businesses. Those facts alone should show that an apology is unnecessary. We have set things right. We have walked away from slavery and blacks now live under the very same Constitution, Rights and Protections that any other race, gender, or creed in this country lives under.
That’s really getting a bit melodramatic if you don’t mind my saying so (well you can mind, but I’ll say it anyway). I don’t see it as a threat to the Republic. There are many more dangerous threats that we are faced with today than having to issue an empty apology. Open borders, illegal immigrants, terrorists, taxes, Congress, Rosie O’Donnell, American Idol…
There are indeed people who seek to delegitimize our country’s right to govern, hell they spend every waking moment trying to delegitimize our right to exist period, but they are going to have to find some other tool with which to accomplish what they seek to do than this.
Those people that endlessly denounce the US as a racist regime are the same people that will denounce the US on every single idea and issue under the sun. This just happens to be the Bitch DeJour at the moment. A mere apology is NOT going to change that one iota. Issue an apology for slavery, and they will simply find something else to bitch and moan about. You’ve heard the saying: “Give them an inch, they will take a mile”.
Thank you..I will accept it as a compliment, and I will issue my own apology for not being more precise in my original statement. Doesn’t mean I’ll stop being a bitch of course…. :devil_tb:
January 19th, 2007 at 11:09 AMUsing
I’ll tell you why I am against it: You will never, EVER see me apologizing for something I didn’t do. Because by doing so, not only do I show a complete an utter lack of self-respect and a spinelessness that a nematode would be ashamed to display, I also imply that I agree that I have something to be sorry for, which I don’t.
By apologizing for something, no matter how meaningless and nonsensical the apology is, you admit to some measure of responsibility for whatever it is that you’re apologizing for, thus opening the door wide open to a whole avalanche of follow-up demands and claims.
After all, you did say you were sorry, didn’t you? Why would you say that if you bear any responsibility for it?
And so on and so forth.
But, at the very bottom of the issue is a question of honor. If you value your honor so little that you would taint it with the implied guilt of something you had nothing to do with, simply to appease the unreasonable, then you don’t deserve to have any.
In fact, you DON’T have any.
January 19th, 2007 at 12:05 PMUsing
I apologize only if I have done wrong or made a mistake. I do not apologize for others, nor will I accept them doing so for me. And under no circumstances will I ever allow myself to be manipulated into giving an apology to assuage the allegedly hurt feelings of another. That is rank manipulation. Let the suckers and gutless worms do so. I am neither and will not. Somebody wants to hate me? Go for it. You want to hurt me or mine? I am an uncompromising supporter of the second amendment, one I exercise and defend witout compromise.
January 20th, 2007 at 5:33 PMUsing
Simply put, one cannot apologize for something someone else did. The very definition of an apology is to express regret for something one’s own self has done.
Did anyone notice that CNN was flogging this story for hour upon hour a couple of days ago? Maybe CNN should apologize, fire all their white staff members and commentators (no actual journalists work there so there is no need to fire them) and take all shares owned by whites and transfer them to any black shareholders.
Of course, we would need to find out if any of the black shareholders were in any way responsible by way of lineage for slavery since it is well known that blacks were the ones doing the original selling. If we use liberal logic, the PUSHER is the criminal, not the USER. Whites were the users, Blacks were the pushers. Again, using liberal logic, whites were victimized by having slaves pushed on them, thereby addicting whites to free labor.
Furthermore, EVERY American today benefits from the labor produced by slavery so EVERY American is, by liberal logic, responsible for some kind of reparations.
My suggest is that every American should just give a dollar to their neighbor and get a dollar in return and that should cover it.
January 20th, 2007 at 8:10 PMUsing
Let’s not forget, Beeblebrox, that numbers of slaves were sold by the Muslims to white slave traders, so we need to levy a tax on Mecca so that that batch of pushers can get into the act! Then, of course, there are also the blacks and American Indians who owned slaves! Maybe we need to find out who THEIR descendants were and have THEM cough up some “apology”, too? :wallbash_tb::doh_tb:
Nah. Never gonna happen. :lol_tb: :lol_wp:
January 21st, 2007 at 8:03 AMUsing
Guido sez:
It won’t because:
a. Liberals do not have the capacity to understand unintended consequences (i.e. that apologies and reparations require precise knowledge of who is perp and who is victim and if such information were acquired they would find that their own ideological ancestors were at fault for slavery).
b. Their agenda is not to make amends but to perpetrate a scam. Bottom line, the race pimps are common hoodlums with a racket that they are hoping will get them some $$$.
BTW, I wonder if, in 100 years, liberals will be demanding an apology and reparations for everyone damaged by abortion. After all, abortion is the new slavery.
January 21st, 2007 at 9:46 AMUsing