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Anti-Idiotarian Rottweiler » “Just Close Your Eyes And Think of Gun Control” (UPDATED)
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An astute reader (who forgot to provide me with a nickname and will therefore remain anonymous. You know who you are) sent me this link to an article in Time about how NOLA is circling the drain, turning into one of the most dangerous places in the nation thanks to goblins running rampant.

On a more positive note, it also describes how the many law-abiding and upstanding citizens of NOLA, understandably pissed off and not willing to just sit back and take it, are arming themselves at an unprecedented rate.

Anyway, as is so often the case, Time managed to dig up the obligatory Dumb as a Sack of Hair Officer Friendly™ with an axe to grind when it comes to private gun ownership. I cannot imagine how much work it must be for rags like Time to dig up one of those for every article touching upon the subject of armed citizens because, honestly, I don’t know a single cop who has any problem at all with responsible gun owners and their use of their firearms in self-defense. Quite to the contrary, every cop I’ve ever known and asked was very much in favor of private gun ownership, since it makes their jobs much easier and, more importantly, cuts back on the number of grisly crime scenes that they have to process. Scooping up a dead goblin, pouring him in a sack and sending him off to the big fridge doesn’t bother them much. Doing the same for a family of four killed because they couldn’t defend themselves, on the other hand, does. A lot.

So either the lamestream mediots are making those Officer Dumbasses™ up out of whole cloth, or I’m forced to accept that there are a few of our boys in blue who aren’t quite right on the top floor. What I do know is that they are few and far between.

Predictably, such chatter has law enforcement officials concerned. “Not just for our safety or theirs,” says New Orleans Police Department sergeant Donovan Livaccari. “But people should know where their rights begin and where they end.

Your concern for the citizens and the legal trouble they might find themselves in after a shooting in self-defense is touching. However, in the situation, I do believe that they’re more concerned with their right to live another day. Yes, I know I’m going out on a limb here, but that’s my guess and I’m sticking to it. And judging by the murder rate in NOLA these days, I’d say that they have every reason to be concerned, to put it mildly.

I think a lot of people are unaware that, in Louisiana, you can have a weapon in your car, but once you leave your car, you’re subject to a whole different set of circumstances.

That might very well be so, it certainly is in Texas (at least until September, mheh), but I have to point out that it, while undoubtedly very important after the fact, isn’t quite as important as maintaining vital signs. Charge me with whatever moronic, criminal-coddling laws you want when the goblin has assumed room temperature, I don’t really care. It still beats being dead.

Also, where you’re allowed to use deadly force; by law, you’re not allowed to use deadly force to protect property.”

Is that so? No, it’s an honest question, since I don’t know what the laws regarding defense of property are in Louisiana, and such laws vary immensely from state to state. In Texas, for instance, it is quite legal to use deadly force if you cannot reasonably hope to get the property being stolen back in any other way. Not that I’d shoot somebody running down the street with my car stereo (note that the threat is gone and the perpetrator is retreating in this scenario. If that’s not the case, he’s going down with two to center mass and one to the head), but I most certainly could. Killing somebody, even when it is perfectly justifiable, is still a killing and it will stay with you forevermore, no matter how quickly the Grand Jury hands you a no-bill. Just make sure that the price is worth paying, is all I’m saying.

But that’s neither here nor there. I once again find myself digressing.

What is the point is that there is no way of knowing that the goblin “just” wants your car stereo or your iPod. If anybody reading this still believes in the Brady Bunch claptrap that you just have to hand over your valuables and then the goblin will leave in peace, then I strongly urge you to knock that idiotic idea out of your head, right now. Because it will get you badly hurt if you ever, heaven forbid, find yourself staring down one of the troglodytes.

Goblins are sick, deranged individuals, as proven by them having not the slightest moral qualms about relieving you of your property at gunpoint. What on Earth would make any rational, sentient being think that they’re going to act all calm and sensible when they have a quivering, submissive victim cowering before them, telling them to do as they please? That’s a serious temptation for a sociopath, especially if you’re a pretty lady. And even if you’re not, chances are that the goblin has quite a few outstanding warrants with his name on it and, guess what?, you’re an eyewitness to an armed robbery with him as the perpetrator.

You do the math.

Yes, he might just grab your wallet and run, but are you willing to take that chance? You shouldn’t. Google “crime scene photographs” if you want to see why you shouldn’t.

So, in summary, I don’t give a fuck what Louisiana law says about use of lethal force in defense of property. If I’m being mugged or burgled by an armed goblin, only one of us will leave the scene under his own power, and I intend to do anything I can to make sure that it is me.

Livaccari points out that, in a holdup, a gun-waving victim is more likely to end up shot than one who simply hands over money — though his message isn’t helped by incidents like one last October in which a would-be victim shot and killed a man he told police was trying to rob him and a female companion at gunpoint near the French Quarter.

Kudos to Time for including that last bit. All too often, the MSM conveniently leave out details that might disturb the approved narrative.

And a healthy, hearty “fuck you up the Khyber Pass with a rusty I-frame” to Officer Knucklehead. I am not in the least bit interested in playing the odds if an armed sack of useless skin is about to help himself to anything he wants. Make it 60%, 30% or 5% chance of me surviving if I draw my sidearm, I know that when the bastard is done stopping a handful of .45 JHPs, I’ll be in the winning category. If I don’t defend myself, on the other hand, I’m putting my life and everything I ever will be in the hands of Lady Luck. I don’t play Russian Roulette either, Officer Birdbrain, is that stupid of me too?

Then there’s the possibility that a gun will be stolen and used in other crimes.

If my gun is stolen, then it’s because I’m dead. Consequently, it’s unlikely that I’ll give a damn. He does, however inadvertently, have a point though: As I always say to anybody who cares to listen and, I’m sure, quite a few who don’t (but I, being me, don’t give a flip), “if you intend to get a firearm, you’d damn well better be at peace with the concept of using it, and you’d damn well better make sure that you reach that point before you buy it.” Because if you don’t, if you haven’t decided in your mind beyond any doubt that you will if you have to, then you’re nothing but a walking gun vending machine. Except the gun in question, yours, will be free of charge. Don’t get a gun unless you’re ready to use it. You wouldn’t buy a Porsche if you had no intentions of driving it either, would you?

But whether it’s stolen from you or from your dead body, it doesn’t really matter. Unless Officer Fuckhead here is suggesting that the only source goblins have for guns are the arsenals of law-abiding citizens. If so, he’s dumber than I thought, and that’s saying quite a bit. It’s the same nonsense we have to listen to over and over again when some wet blanket Gun Fearing Wussy justifies gun bans in schools by saying “if anybody were armed, it would just be another place for the goblin to get a gun.”

Here’s a hint: Goblins bring their own. Imagine that! Who knew?

Not to mention that the whole concept of claiming that having your gun stolen is an inevitability is about as cluefucked as they come. By that logic, we shouldn’t own cars either. After all, they’re nothing but a car pool for drunken car thieves, right? A grand theft auto and a DUI just waiting to happen, right?

Bottom line is: You can be one of two things.

  1. An armed citizen capable of defending yourself.
  2. A potential helpless victim.

Pick one. There is no door number three.

Thatisall.

***UPDATE:***

Sgt. Livaccari responds in the comments:

I appreciate your vigorous defense of the right to own guns. However, I think that my comments in the Time article were misinterpreted.

First, I have a law degree from the Loyola University School of Law and am admitted to the Louisiana Bar. I am by no means a liberal or anti-gun.

My message is simple. If you are going to own a gun, know the laws that effect you and, more importantly, know that if you are going to display a gun, you better be ready to pull the trigger.

If you believe that you have the fortitude to take a life, you know how to use weapon, and you know the laws regarding its use, then by all means, buy a gun if it makes you feel more secure. I am certainly not giving mine back.

Finally, in Louisiana, you can not use deadly force to protect property. You can use deadly force in the event that someone invades your home, but that really isn’t a case of protecting property but protecting yourself.

Sgt. Donovan Livaccari

First, sir, I want you to know that I appreciate you taking the time to respond. Also, in order to ensure that your response doesn’t get “buried in comments”, I’ve put it up here so it won’t get lost.

Second, and most certainly no less importantly, I am glad to hear that my understanding of your comments was wrong, not to mention that I can’t find a single thing in your response here regarding the proper use of firearms and lethal force that I disagree with. There are times when it’s a joy to be off the mark, and this is one such time. Of course, that also leaves me with an obligation to apologize since, whether the misunderstanding was due to selective quoting from Time or not, my words are still mine and I do not wish to be even partially responsible for giving a false impression of your true opinions. That’s what we have the press for and they do a depressingly good job of it.

So, Sgt Livaccari, I do apologize. I apologize for having contributed to the misinterpretation of your words and I am relieved to hear that you, as one of “our boys in blue”, are not what the Time article made you out to be. I am also, again, grateful for this opportunity to set the record straight, not to mention that it serves to teach me and anybody else happening upon this post a lesson about the need to take everything the MSM say with a large amount of grains of salt, no matter what our doctor might say it’ll do to our cardio-vascular system.

Also, no less importantly, it is now clear to me that Sgt Livaccari is in no way a “birdbrain” or any of the other, er, colorful appellations that I assigned to him. I apologize for those as well.

Again, thanks for your reply.

Respectfully,

Misha I

P.S.: Thanks for your clarification of LA laws regarding defense of property. As I mentioned in the post, I didn’t know. Now I do.

48 Responses to ““Just Close Your Eyes And Think of Gun Control” (UPDATED)”
  1. chuck Comment by chuck

    I pick 1. I will not be a helpless victim and more importantly neither will my family.

  2. chuck Comment by chuck

    That is the idea that bugs me the most. If you want to live your life as a crap shoot that you wouldn’t be put in a position where your life is on the line, hey more power to you. To each, his own. But I cannot for the life of me understand how someone could live with that risk to those they love. It is just more evidence of the wussification of our nation. Everyone is just to depend on someone else stepping up but when the time comes, those of us able and willing to step up seem few and far between.

  3. chuck Comment by chuck

    crime cameras in hot spots

    Gee don’t that make you feel safe. Maybe they will have the evidence to convict your killer, but that does absolutely nothing to keep you alive.

  4. hitnrun Comment by hitnrun

    Livaccari points out that, in a holdup, a gun-waving victim is more likely to end up shot than one who simply hands over money

    I’ve no doubt. People do the strangest things with guns. I’ve always been under the impression that you aim them and shoot them, not wave them.

    Like the Emperor says, don’t buy a gun if you’re not willing to use it. You’re just asking to be a statistic in a study bandied about by GFWs.

  5. Orion Comment by Orion

    You can see how VERY effective those cameras in crime hot spots are by the fact that no one robs convenience stores any more!

    Since every c-store in the country now has a multitude of cameras filming every angle, we have seen crime drop to absolute zero there. No gas-n-go’s, no armed robberies, no shootings, no murders, no grab-n-run’s, no shoplifting.

    Thank GOODNESS for crime cameras! (I’m quite sure that the constant barrage of ‘Caught on Tape’, ‘Wildest shoot outs’, ‘Wildest Crime Videos’ and the rest on Spike are all done with re-enactments).

    I remember a statistic website a few years back that listed the top 3 most dangerous jobs in the country.

    1: Taxi driver.
    2: C-Store clerk
    3: US Army Ranger

    Hmmm.

    Orion

  6. LC Old Dog Comment by LC Old Dog

    I’ll take door number one Your Rottiness.

    My gun will certanly not be waving, locked in a Weaver most likely. :guns_tb: :lol_wp:

  7. JeepThang Comment by JeepThang

    You already know my thoughts on this one..

  8. Lc Scott Comment by Lc Scott

    a gun-waving victim

    Anuff said right there.

  9. DдrтH бдкфи Comment by DдrтH бдкфи

    Who “waves” a gun when their life is at stake?

    I aimed mine.

    Just to give an example of stupid shit people do, I live in downtown Philly, and there’s lot of gay folks here. No matter what any of us think about homosexuality, I feel comfortable assuming that absolutely NONE of us wish gay folks any harm. Unfortunately, not everyone shares that feeling, and wherever you find lots of them, there’s bound to be gay-bashing.

    It brings to mind a friend of mine, who is not only one of the most erudite people I know, and also a former FFL, but also a gay guy. He’s a member of a group called “Pink Pistols”, which advocates self-defense and 2nd Amendment issues for gay folks. As you can imagine, they are REVILED within the gay “community” at large for not towing the liberal line of hoplophobia. His stance on guns is exactly the same as ours is- I mean you no harm, but if you mean me harm, you’re getting shot. He summed it up like this- a gay person with a gun isn’t getting gay-bashed.

    I think we all respect people’s right to physical safety regardless of petty shit like skin color or sexual practices…as far as I’m concerned, defense of one’s home and property is exactly the same as defense of one’s self- absolutely natural, and (in a sane universe) legally irrefutable.

    When are the Idiotarian Citizens Of Unicornistan going to realize that taking away the right to self-defense only aids the lawless?

  10. juandos Comment by juandos

    Predictably, such chatter has law enforcement officials concerned. “Not just for our safety or theirs,” says New Orleans Police Department sergeant Donovan Livaccari. “But people should know where their rights begin and where they end

    Coming from someone who works for one of the most corrupt police departments in this country (if one believes what comes out of Huamn Rights Watch), well that’s mildly amusing…

    Also, where you’re allowed to use deadly force; by law, you’re not allowed to use deadly force to protect property.”

    Obviously Livaccari has held his head under in the kool-aid trough for way to long…

    Considering that New Orleans is the eighth most dangerous city in the US (even with the depleted population numbers), it didn’t become that way because the gobblins decided only on a bit of property theft…

  11. Redeard Comment by Redeard

    I think no more of a goblin losing its life than a cockroach. They are similar in at least one respect, a cockroach can survive for more than a day without its head, a goblin has gone its entire life without a brain.

  12. LC Wil Comment by LC Wil

    Make it 60%, 30% or 5% chance of me surviving if I draw my sidearm, I know that when the bastard is done stopping a handful of .45 JHPs, I’ll be in the winning category. If I don’t defend myself, on the other hand, I’m putting my life and everything I ever will be in the hands of Lady Luck. I don’t play Russian Roulette either, Officer Birdbrain, is that stupid of me too?

    I intend to survive, regardless of what the GFWs think. If, however, in extremis, I were to fail to survive such encounter, I could die satisfied that my escort would be increased, that there is one less Goblin to bother my friends and family in the future, and one more horrible example of what happens if you screw with CITIZENS.

    I may die. Happens to all of us, as the death rate has remained constant for millenia (one to a customer). I refuse to die with bended knee.

  13. crusader coyote Comment by crusader coyote

    Coming from someone who works for one of the most corrupt police departments in this country (if one believes what comes out of Huamn Rights Watch), well that’s mildly amusing…

    Ya don’t need to rely on HRW for that. I lived there for a little over 4 years for college. I’d learned to respect and appreciate law enforcement here in the DC suburbs, but I un-learned that real quick once I got to NOLA.

    One of the many things I absolutely loathe and despise about that city. There was something very wrong with that place when I lived there, and according to a friend who went back recently to visit, it’s only gotten worse since Katrina. And this is someone from DC saying how messed up a city was, which should tell you something. . .ick, ick, ick. I swore when I graduated and left that I’d never return unless I was getting paid to do so, and to that I hold. . .

  14. Unregistered Comment by Special Ed

    I never understood why so many people unwilling to defend themselves would want to make sure I can’t defend myself either.

    Fortunately, I don’t listen to them …

  15. juandos Comment by juandos

    crusader coyote says:

    There was something very wrong with that place when I lived there, and according to a friend who went back recently to visit, it’s only gotten worse since Katrina. And this is someone from DC saying how messed up a city was, which should tell you something. . .ick, ick, ick.

    You are right…

    I lived in NOLA back in the late seventies and though it was a great place at the time to play, but the politics and the politicos tainted everything: An Unnatural Disaster: A Hurricane Exposes the Man-Made Disaster of the Welfare State

    Something else that didn’t happen in the late seventies: 9 Shot As New Orleans Starts Mardi Gras

    So now its not even a great place to play….

  16. LC Ranger 6 Comment by LC Ranger 6

    Also, where you’re allowed to use deadly force; by law, you’re not allowed to use deadly force to protect property.”

    And just how in the fetid monkey feces that passes for this corrupt asshole’s brains do you determine whether an armed goblin is there for property or life? Goblin + weapon of any sort = dead goblin.

    Police, real ones not the NOLA variety, have I believe a 13 foot rule for deadly force and knives. And if you are in my house I don’t care if you are buck naked and empty handed you are armed, there to kill me and my family and I will blow your damn head off.

  17. BigDogg Comment by BigDogg

    It doesn’t surprise me at all that the NOLA police department doesn’t want law-abiding citizens armed. These are the same “officers” of the law that were video-taped looting, and then threatening the news crew filming them looting, during the whole Katrina debacle.

    Maybe NOLA should just be declared off-limits to anyone who isn’t a criminal or a corrupt government official. Then, in a couple of years, when they’ve all exterminated each other, the city can be leveled and rebuilt.

  18. L.C. Rowane Comment by L.C. Rowane

    I shot a pimp and one of his “ladies” at a truckstop in Slidell, La in 1987. It took over six months to get shed of the charges. I’m just glad that I had witnesses to the fact that he shot at me first. It also didn’t hurt that I had 5 bullet holes in my car’s fender, where I had taken cover.

    I don’t think it would have taken more than a week anywhere else for the redtape to have been done with. It just goes to show you what a PITA LA can be.

    Oh, BTW, it took me almost 4 years to get my Colt Gold Cup back. Just keep this in mind if you ever have to defend yourself in LA.

    Death to Islam, and
    their mediot stooges!
    Duty, Honor, Country
    (in THAT order)
    Rowane

  19. Kristopher Comment by Kristopher

    Google “Gary Kleck”.

    That NOLA cop’s comment about firearms making you unsafe is utter crap.

    The safest response to violent crime is, in all cases, to silently draw a pistol and start blazing away at the perp.

  20. Unregistered Comment by smokeybehr

    #9 Darth Bacon

    I’m wholly in favor of Pink Pistols, even though I’m opposed to homosexuality. It’s a great way of getting more gun owners, and ensuring that a deliberately targeted segment of society has the tools and the skills to keep themselves safe.

    Juandos/Crusader Coyote

    NOLA PD has been deemed the most corrupt law enforcement agency EVER by some people. It was evidenced by the looting after Katrina, by 1/3 of the officers going AWOL after Katrina, and by the sheer numbers of officers that have been tried and convicted of crimes committed under the color of authority.

    I’ll pass through the town, I’ll visit for a few hours, but I’ll never stay overnight, and I’ll never live there. Let “Schoolbus” have his Chocolate City. It’ll have a nice blood coating.

    Hell, the whole state is the same way…

  21. MegaTroopX Comment by MegaTroopX

    Time managed to dig up the obligatory Dumb as a Sack of Hair Officer Friendly™ with an axe to grind when it comes to private gun ownership.

    Say it with me, now…

    “Fooling himself, or hopelessly corrupt!”

    This being NOLA (Home of Officer Breaking & Officer Entering), care to guess which one he is?

    I know I sound like a scratched CD, but this happens to be an issue I take particularly personally.

  22. baslimthecripple Comment by baslimthecripple

    and ensuring that a deliberately targeted segment of society has the tools and the skills to keep themselves safe.

    I was impressed by this, obviously I guess. There are many deliberately targeted segments of society. Women by would-be rapists or just garden variety muggers, people with cars by would-be car-jackers, people with homes by would-be burglars, etc. There are a lot of would-be predators out there; I prefer the role of hunter to prey. As far as then limits on the use of deadly force, I think the best rendition is better to be tried by twelve than carried by six.

  23. Unregistered Comment by oldguy

    If you’re going to do the body armor drill……
    two to center mass and one to the head.
    You had better practice, practice and practice some more. Don’t just shoot standing one place, move forward, backward and side to side. Shoot while moving, don’t stop to shoot. There’s more, so study and, again, practice.

  24. AyUaxe Comment by AyUaxe

    NoPD isn’t much different than other city police forces from my experience. There’s good and bad and everything in between-most just don’t make national or even regional news like this. They’re not going to be choir boys or all dedicated ex-SF officers (though some are); if they were, they couldn’t do what they have to do and/or we couldn’t afford them. Good citizens here are arming themselves because they’ve realized cops, no matter how honest and competent, can’t be there all the time. Cops in most of Louisiana, indeed most NoPD rank and file, follow the normal, pro-citizen model. Some NoPD cops, particularly those in the headquarters “elite”, like Livaccari and chief Riley, are worried about two things–1) loss of power and indispensability despite incompetence and 2) fear that their crooked officers, from whom higher ups get kickbacks, will get shot like any other goblin. That said, it is good to remind dumb ol’ average Joe that he can’t shoot some knuckle head for stealing his smokes or rifling through his shed. If you have a permit, you’ve been trained on these issues, but if you’re a new gun buyer, you might not know and that could be bad for an other wise good, law abiding citizen gunowner. No, you don’t shoot people over mere property, though that tire iron da dude used to try to steal some rims, could sure be deemed a dangerous/deadly weapon–so, OK, within range, he’s shootable. The real impact of increasing the number of armed citizens, here as in any city, is to make bleed-over of crime from criminal turf (where all 9 of the “cleanings” occurred in Juandos’ linked article) risky for the thugs. Things were quieter in the 70’s, NOLA’s offshore oil & gas economy was booming (Arab oil embargo anyone?), but the same areas were crime-ridden then as now. There is rarely, if ever, a need for the average law-abiding citizen to enter the “Central City” crime zone, 7th Ward, Ninet Ward, and Gert-town/Hollygrove the same. These neighborhoods won’t mean anything to non-N’awlineans, but if you live in a city and you don’t know their equivalents in your hometown, you’re not paying attention and a wrong-turn could put you and your family at risk. That sucks, but it’s reality and it’s a good reason to know your area and do what’s necessary to be ready to defend yourself and your family. We are working and partying in NOLA at full tilt, now. If you were here in decades past, you will be surprised at how much good stuff hasn’t changed and how much crap has been removed or improved. With some of our least productive and most problematic “citizens” dispersed and diluted around, we have more and safer room for honored guests, like the LCs of the Rottiempire. Jazz Fest looks like it’ll be great–last weekend of April, first weekend of May (NOLA weekends start on Thurs.) So pick door No. 1 and do it with a bunch of berld crawfish, shwimps an’ crabs, drippin’ roast beef po-boys, jazz, R&B, funk, and gospel and go-cups with your favorite beverage–that’s how we roll!

  25. LC Moriarty Comment by LC Moriarty

    I can’t find it online, but Col. Jeff Cooper (who else?) wrote a monumental smackdown to all of this in Fireworks.

    The article was entitled: We must disarm the citizens of this country… (The quote came from another lame excuse for a “public servant,” then NY Police Commissioner Patrick Murphy.)

    I recall that Cooper closed his composition with this:

    I will not be disarmed. Not while I live. Mark that well.

    Enough said.

  26. Unregistered Comment by Argive

    I went to a very good high school in a very bad part of Philadelphia. Once, when I was 17, I was waiting for the train (which happened to be close to the projects) and was accosted by a strung-out, mumbling fellow who wanted to sell me some guns. I declined. He then asked me for money. I immediately noted several things:

    1. I was unarmed.
    2. I was the only non-goblin on the train platform.
    3. He was probably lying about having guns (he would want me to know that he had them) but I didn’t know for sure.
    4. His partner was blocking my only escape route.

    I gave him $30 and they both walked away. I really can’t believe how lucky I was, especially considering that several months later, a friend of mine got jumped while waiting for the bus and was beaten to the point of overnight hospitalization. But it is from experiences like mine that people get the idea that “they’ll walk away if you give them what they want.” Sometimes they will. Sometimes they won’t. Better not to take the chance.

  27. LC Moriarty Comment by LC Moriarty

    … and another thing (my emphasis):

    It’s the random killings, however, like the still-unsolved January murder of filmmaker Helen Hill, that have spurred ordinary citizens to take up arms.

    That’s the breakpoint where I stop reading and get off the bus. Apparently Time recognizes at least two classes of citizen, some “ordinary” and some apparently “more equal than others.”

    I simply have no time for such printed bullshit.

  28. NevadaDailySteve Comment by NevadaDailySteve

    As far as the limits on the use of deadly force, I think the best rendition is it is better to be tried by twelve than carried by six.

    Truer words. . .

  29. LC NCLivingBrit Comment by LC NCLivingBrit

    As far as the limits on the use of deadly force, I think the best rendition is it is better to be tried by twelve than carried by six.

    I was just posting that earlier when the Rott decided I wasn’t allowed here for a bit and done tossed me off.

    And with regards to NOLA, you couldn’t get me to go there without a flamethrower and a hazmat suit. And that’s just for the crooked ‘cops’ there. Remember that footage of the two ‘officers’ wheeling a cartload of shoes looted from Wal Mart?

  30. sig94 Comment by sig94

    There are cops out there like NOPD’s Livaccari. Most are upper echelon and are sock puppets for their mayors. I work with a few.

    In NY State - for everyone of the victims I took pictures of in various poses, stages of decomposition and mayhem - not one of their murderers was executed by the State. Some of the perps are already out on parole. The victims are still dead. Perhaps if they had been armed the circumstances would have been reversed. But without a means to protect themselves, the end result is always the same.

    Livaccari points out that, in a holdup, a gun-waving victim is more likely to end up shot than one who simply hands over money

    Livaccari is an embarassment.

  31. sig94 Comment by sig94

    I saw this over at Militia Jim’s site and couldn’t control myself, I just had to steal it.

    40 Reasons to Ban Guns

    1. Banning guns works, which is why New York, DC, Detroit & Chicago cops need guns.

    2. Washington DC’s low murder rate of 69 per 100,000 is due to strict gun control, and Indianapolis’ high murder rate of 9 per 100,000 is due to the lack of gun control.

    3. Statistics showing high murder rates justify gun control but statistics showing increasing murder rates after gun control are “just statistics.”

    4. The Brady Bill and the Assault Weapons Ban, both of which went into effect in 1994 are responsible for the decrease in violent crime rates,which have been declining since 1991.

    5. We must get rid of guns because a deranged lunatic may go on a shooting spree at any time and anyone who would own a gun out of fear of such a lunatic is paranoid.

    6. The more helpless you are the safer you are from criminals.

    7. An intruder will be incapacitated by tear gas or oven spray, but if shot with a .357 Magnum will get angry and kill you.

    8. A woman raped and strangled is morally superior to a woman with a smoking gun and a dead rapist at her feet.

    9. When confronted by violent criminals, you should “put up no defense - give them what they want, or run” (Handgun Control Inc. Chairman Pete Shields, Guns Don’t Die - People Do, 1981, p. 125).

    10. The New England Journal of Medicine is filled with expert advice about guns; just like Guns & Ammo has some excellent treatises on heart surgery.

    11. One should consult an automotive engineer for safer seat belts, a civil engineer for a better bridge, a surgeon for internal medicine, a computer programmer for hard drive problems, and Sarah Brady for firearms expertise.

    12. The 2nd Amendment, ratified in 1787, refers to the National Guard, which was created 130 years later, in 1917.

    13. The National Guard, federally funded, with bases on federal land, using federally-owned weapons, vehicles, buildings and uniforms, punishing trespassers under federal law, is a “state” militia.

    14. These phrases: “right of the people peaceably to assemble,” “right of the people to be secure in their homes,” “enumerations herein of certain rights shall not be construed to disparage others retained by the people,” and “The powers not delegated herein are reserved to the states respectively, and to the people” all refer to individuals, but “the right of the people to keep and bear arms” refers to the state.

    15. “The Constitution is strong and will never change.” But we should ban and seize all guns thereby violating the 2nd, 4th, and 5th Amendments to that Constitution.

    16. Rifles and handguns aren’t necessary to national defense! Of course, the army has hundreds of thousands of them.

    17. Private citizens shouldn’t have handguns, because they aren’t “military weapons”, but private citizens shouldn’t have “assault rifles”, because they are military weapons.

    18. In spite of waiting periods, background checks, fingerprinting,government forms, etc., guns today are too readily available, which is responsible for recent school shootings. In the 1940’s, 1950’s and 1960’s,anyone could buy guns at hardware stores, army surplus stores, gas stations,variety stores, Sears mail order, no waiting, no background check, no fingerprints, no government forms and there were no school shootings.

    19. The NRA’s attempt to run a “don’t touch” campaign about kids handling guns is propaganda, but the anti-gun lobby’s attempt to run a “don’t touch” campaign is responsible social activity.

    20. Guns are so complex that special training is necessary to use them properly, and so simple to use that they make murder easy.

    21. A handgun, with up to 4 controls, is far too complex for the typical adult to learn to use, as opposed to an automobile that only has 20.

    22. Women are just as intelligent and capable as men but a woman with a gun is “an accident waiting to happen” and gun makers’ advertisements aimed at women are “preying on their fears.”

    23. Ordinary people in the presence of guns turn into slaughtering butchers but revert to normal when the weapon is removed.

    24. Guns cause violence, which is why there are so many mass killings at gun shows.

    25. A majority of the population supports gun control, just like a majority of the population supported owning slaves.

    26. Any self-loading small arm can legitimately be considered to be a “weapon of mass destruction” or an “assault weapon.”

    27. Most people can’t be trusted, so we should have laws against guns, which most people will abide by because they can be trusted.

    28. The right of Internet pornographers to exist cannot be questioned because it is constitutionally protected by the Bill of Rights, but the use of handguns for self defense is not really protected by the Bill of Rights.

    29. Free speech entitles one to own newspapers, transmitters, computers, and typewriters, but self- defense only justifies bare hands.

    30. The ACLU is good because it uncompromisingly defends certain parts of the Constitution, and the NRA is bad, because it defends other parts of the Constitution.

    31. Charlton Heston, a movie actor as president of the NRA is a cheap lunatic who should be ignored, but Michael Douglas, a movie actor as a representative of Handgun Control, Inc. is an ambassador for peace who is entitled to an audience at the UN arms control summit.

    32. Police operate with backup within groups, which is why they need larger capacity pistol magazines than do “civilians” who must face criminals alone and therefore need less ammunition.

    33. We should ban “Saturday Night Specials” and other inexpensive guns because it’s not fair that poor people have access to guns too.

    34. Police officers have some special Jedi-like mastery over handguns that private citizens can never hope to obtain.

    35. Private citizens don’t need a gun for self- protection because the police are there to protect them even though the Supreme Court says the police are not responsible for their protection.

    36. Citizens don’t need to carry a gun for personal protection but police chiefs, who are desk-bound administrators who work in a building filled with cops, need a gun. (My personal favorite)

    37. “Assault weapons” have no purpose other than to kill large numbers of people. The police need assault weapons. You do not.

    38. When Microsoft pressures its distributors to give Microsoft preferential promotion, that’s bad; but when the Federal government pressures cities to buy guns only from Smith & Wesson, that’s good.

    39. Trigger locks do not interfere with the ability to use a gun for defensive purposes, which is why you see police officers with one on their duty weapon.

    40. Handgun Control, Inc., says they want to “keep guns out of the wrong hands.” Guess what? You have the wrong hands.

  32. Emperor Misha I Comment by Emperor Misha I

    BWAHAHAHAHA, Siggie!

    I may just have to figure out how to put one of those “random quotes” thingies up on this site so I can have those pop up randomly!

    Great post :thumbup_tb:

  33. Skul Comment by Skul

    Sig, that was superb.

  34. LC FIAR Comment by LC FIAR

    “Assault weapons” have no purpose other than to kill large numbers of people. The police need assault weapons. You do not.

    I like that one the best.

  35. LC FIAR Comment by LC FIAR

    Oh, and thanks for finding that great list, Sig.

  36. Unregistered Comment by Draven32

    Why is the Time running this article? Because they’ve been informed that the city they are based out of may see some fallout from Parker v. DC…

  37. LC HJ Caveman82952 Comment by LC HJ Caveman82952

    I stole it too, Sig, with credits. This has GOT to go out to my friends. These imbecilic GFW’s want nothing more than personal dominion over you, me, everybody. They can talk all the shit they please…but when facing eternity they wuss out fast. My new assistant manager, this is honest to God true. A really nice gal, we talk guns. A lesbian that got tired of being a victim, both her and her partner. She is a target shooter with a 454 Casull…….don’t ask me why, I do not know. I was too busy wiping tears of laughter from my eyes. But where I work, all of us own guns and like shooting them………..so bring it on lefties…who’s first?

  38. Unregistered Comment by Lord Spatula I, King & Tyrant

    I stole it too, Sig, with credits.

    As did I.

  39. LC HJ Caveman82952 Comment by LC HJ Caveman82952

    I often ponder the mindset of some of these frightened little cretins…….open season on guns. Yet they would be the first to legalize all drugs, saying they will always be a part of society…as will guns. No, while I don’t do drugs, I will do guns. The gultess sleazebags imagine somehow all of us here would be a danger to each other when nothing could be farther from the truth. All of us shooting, teaching each other, sharing firing our various pieces of hardware…but no danger whatsoever…..unless somebody tried to take our guns……

  40. Unregistered Comment by dlivaccari

    I appreciate your vigorous defense of the right to own guns. However, I think that my comments in the Time article were misinterpreted.

    First, I have a law degree from the Loyola University School of Law and am admitted to the Louisiana Bar. I am by no means a liberal or anti-gun.

    My message is simple. If you are going to own a gun, know the laws that effect you and, more importantly, know that if you are going to display a gun, you better be ready to pull the trigger.

    If you believe that you have the fortitude to take a life, you know how to use weapon, and you know the laws regarding its use, then by all means, buy a gun if it makes you feel more secure. I am certainly not giving mine back.

    Finally, in Louisiana, you can not use deadly force to protect property. You can use deadly force in the event that someone invades your home, but that really isn’t a case of protecting property but protecting yourself.

    Sgt. Donovan Livaccari

  41. Unregistered Comment by dlivaccari

    I am not advocating the disarming of citizens.

    I AM advocating intelligent gun ownership. Gun aficionados may not need to know whether or not they are capable of pulling the trigger. They probably know how to reload, clean (safely), and protect their guns. They probably also know the applicable laws.

    The general population isn’t so lucky. The general population needs to be aware of the problems that can result from irresponsible gun ownership.

    You can say what you would like. I have never been accused of being a liberal. I have heard that people shouldn’t seek legal advise from a cop (I have a law degree and I am a member of the Louisiana Bar). However, I think that we can all agree that gun owners should be thoroughly familiar with the deadly weapons they have purchased.

    Sgt. Donovan Livaccari

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  43. Emperor Misha I Comment by Emperor Misha I

    Thank you for your response, Sgt Livaccari, I’ve updated the main post accordingly to include it.

    I’m glad to hear that your comments were misinterpreted, and I really should know better than to take anything that the press says at face value :smile1_tb:

  44. Unregistered Comment by Draven32

    However, Sergeant, you did say something which resulted in this being printed:

    Livaccari points out that, in a holdup, a gun-waving victim is more likely to end up shot than one who simply hands over money

    There have been statistic printed showing that “Resisting with a Gun” is LESS likely to end up injured than “Not Resisting At All”

    http://www.junkscience.com/nov98/lottgun.html

  45. Unregistered Comment by dlivaccari

    My comment about gun waving victims was made in the context of a naive gun owner who might believe that they can get away with displaying an unloaded weapon or on that simply doesn’t work, believing that is going to ward off a hard core thug looking for money.

    I have done enough media to know that televised comments are reduced from 5 minutes to 15 seconds and print comments are used to best suit the story. I have some friends in both television media and print media who will check with me before they run a story, but this was the first time I spoke with this author.

    Sgt. Donovan Livaccari

  46. Emperor Misha I Comment by Emperor Misha I

    My comment about gun waving victims was made in the context of a naive gun owner who might believe that they can get away with displaying an unloaded weapon or on that simply doesn’t work, believing that is going to ward off a hard core thug looking for money.

    And you’re absolutely right there too, of course.

    I have done enough media to know that televised comments are reduced from 5 minutes to 15 seconds and print comments are used to best suit the story.

    As they obviously did with this story. Once again, I’m glad we got it cleared up and I thank you once again for taking the time to help out with that, sir.

  47. Cheapshot911 Comment by Cheapshot911

    Sire, he’s graciously provided an excuse to put this here.

    Such a well oiled trap.

  48. Unregistered Comment by dlivaccari

    I appreciate your understanding.