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Anti-Idiotarian Rottweiler » Making Money Off Of Disgrace
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Thanks to LC Gunsniper, who was the first to alert us to this, the latest humiliation for what used to be a proud service:

The 15 British military captives who were released by the Iranians have been authorised by the Ministry of Defence (MoD) to sell their stories.

MoD officials claimed that the move to lift the ban on military personnel selling their stories while in service was justified because of the “exceptional circumstances” of the case. The hostages are expected to earn as much as £250,000 between them.

The story of Faye Turney, 26, the only female among them, is expected to be the most lucrative. She could profit by as much as £150,000 from a joint deal with a newspaper and ITV.

“Exceptional circumstances” indeed. At least they’d damn well better be “exceptional”, because if breaking and pissing all over your uniform and your country after less than two weeks of “mean language, rough handling and undefined ‘psychological pressure’”, followed by kissing a terrorist and pirate’s arse while thanking him most profusely for his act of war is the rule, then the Royal Navy would be better off scuttling itself before it can disgrace its once-proud name any further.


Lt Felix Carman, RN and Cpt Christopher Air, RM prepare to re-deploy in their new Royal Navy uniforms.

***UPDATE***: And while the “feckless fifteen” are haggling with the media over the price for their Tales of Horror and Aggressive Questioning, the BBC decides to yank a story about a Victoria Cross recipient. Because it might offend people who disagree with the war (thanks for the link, alert reader John_R!):

Amid the deaths and the grim daily struggle bravely borne by Britain’s forces in southern Iraq, one tale of heroism stands out.

Private Johnson Beharry’s courage in rescuing an ambushed foot patrol then, in a second act, saving his vehicle’s crew despite his own terrible injuries earned him a Victoria Cross.

For the BBC, however, his story is “too positive” about the conflict.

And to the Haji sympathizers at the most pro-bin Laden network outside of al-Jazeera, that is simply not done. Let not a single positive word be broadcast about the real British heroes of the war. Better to waste hours on hearing about how the “feckless fifteen” went hours, hours without a decent cup of tea.

The corporation has cancelled the commission for a 90-minute drama about Britain’s youngest surviving Victoria Cross hero because it feared it would alienate members of the audience opposed to the war in Iraq.

The Beeb might want to consider just what kind of people they risk alienating by pissing on the sacrifices of a Victoria Cross hero. You know, an actual hero as opposed to the effeminate wankers that just got home with their pink goody bags and cheap suits (and Mahmoud’s jizz dribbling down their chins). We may be going out on a limb here, but we know that there are still Brits over there who revere their heroes and pack a fair punch when somebody tries to take a dump on the flag, and we’re willing to bet that they’re one heck of a lot more scary than the metrosexual, socialist latte-quaffers that the Beeb so loves to pander to.

20 Responses to “Making Money Off Of Disgrace”
  1. LC Wil Comment by LC Wil

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    May the Lord deliver England.

  2. Blackiswhite, Imperial Agent Provocateur Comment by Blackiswhite, Imperial Agent Provocateur

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    C.S. Lewis would be mortally wounded to see the his country represented by those without honor or shame.

  3. Unregistered Comment by Marvin2

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    The BBC has time for them now that the BBc has cancelled plans to air the story of the Victoria Cross winner because the story of fighting back against an ambush might offend some of their viewers.

  4. LC Mrs. M-ITT™ Comment by LC Mrs. M-ITT™

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    Well there’s at least two of them that are at least attempting to retain some amount of honor by not falling into this particular pit.
    As for the rest….they all should take every penny they make and give it to the families of those 6 that died doing their jobs, instead of standing around high fiving the Mullahs and accepting their goody bags.

  5. Emperor Misha I Comment by Emperor Misha I

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    Well there’s at least two of them that are at least attempting to retain some amount of honor by not falling into this particular pit.

    Retaining what?

    As the two senior officers among the “frightened fifteen”, they’re responsible for everything that went on from the moment the Iranian rowboats showed up until the cowards were on a plane home with their pink goody bags and cheap suits.

    They’re a disgrace to their uniforms, their services and their country, and if they had any honor at all, they’d commit suicide.

  6. LC HJ Caveman82952 Comment by LC HJ Caveman82952

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    I wonder hwo they will feel when they do have to fight? Or surrender their families, women and children to the tender mercies of their muzzie oveloards?………for such men deserve the agonies awaiting them, cowardice at such a great cost. I’d rather die than face that, in this world or the next……..

  7. Unregistered Comment by John_R

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    To add insult to injury:

    Amid the deaths and the grim daily struggle bravely borne by Britain’s forces in southern Iraq, one tale of heroism stands out.

    Private Johnson Beharry’s courage in rescuing an ambushed foot patrol then, in a second act, saving his vehicle’s crew despite his own terrible injuries earned him a Victoria Cross.

    For the BBC, however, his story is “too positive” about the conflict.

    The corporation has cancelled the commission for a 90-minute drama about Britain’s youngest surviving Victoria Cross hero because it feared it would alienate members of the audience opposed to the war in Iraq.

    LINK

  8. Wishbone Comment by Wishbone

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    John_R

    Marvelous how the BBC treat our real heroes, isn’t it?.

    If anybody’s interested, you can read his citation here

    Makes a damn sight more palatable reading than the circus surrounding the bloody sailors and marines.

  9. cmblake6 Comment by cmblake6

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    I knew there were some. There had to be. People such as these need to take the country back. Are there not sufficient Englishmen to take the country back? It CAN be done! The Royal Military is actually quite wel trained, there MUST be enough of them to take the place back. Who remember the GLORY days of the British Empire! And the beeb? Must I say the penalty for treason to the Brits as well?

  10. LC MoMinuteMan Comment by LC MoMinuteMan

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    I think the Good Ship Great Britain is dangerously close to hitting the iceberg and somebody needs to sound the collision alarm.

    And I fear that we are starting to plot the same course…

  11. rightismight Comment by rightismight

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    OK OK…I missed this one. In a previous post to a related topic, I wondered when the british cowards would march with cindy sheehan…I forgot all about the inevitable book deals.
    Now, they can hawk their stories of cowardice and treason to the general public…and get paid for it to boot!
    It’s times like these that even several cold beers can’t reduce the shame and anger I feel towards those wankers…

  12. Wishbone Comment by Wishbone

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    It’s times like these that even several cold beers can’t reduce the shame and anger I feel towards those wankers…

    You think you’re pissed off mate. This whole cluster fuck and the fallout from it has left me in a state of cold fury. I’m just praying that some otherwise useless twat of a politician somewhere, anywhere, starts asking all the awkward questions and demanding hard answers from the fucking idiots that allowed any of this to pass. Preferably from the top down.

  13. Unregistered Comment by LC Wes, Imperial Mohel

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    Marina Hyde in yesterday’s Guardian: “Whatever happened to name, rank and number?”

    It’s too good not to quote in full, with a few select passages emphasized:

    I’m afraid it was the Ryder Cup-style photo that was the last straw. It is traditional, on the eve of that golf competition, for the US and European teams to pose for photos in matching outfits. Rarely has this biennial silliness been called to mind more sharply than on Wednesday in Tehran, when the 15 released naval hostages waved cheerily for the cameras, looking for all the world as if they were confident of securing an early lead in the foursomes.

    Before we proceed, two things should be stated for the record. First, it is obviously wonderful that the crew are back in Blighty and reunited with their families. Second, I have never been held hostage or even boarded a ship to check that its cargo papers were in order. Nor have I played international football against Andorra. But we can none the less expect certain standards from those who volunteer to perform these various duties on our grateful behalf. Now that is out of the way, it seems reasonable to at least wonder whatever happened to only divulging one’s name, rank and number.

    Clearly that has been deemed a rather outmoded concept. According to the statements made by the crew’s Captain Chris Air in yesterday afternoon’s press conference, all the hostages arrived independently at the decision to cooperate fully with the Iranians, following several days of “mind games”.

    They were then granted two hours of televised “socialising” a night, and eventually released. The world saw them thank their “fantastic” captors, and rifle through the goody bags provided by President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad in full view of the cameras - after they had been committed into British naval hands. No doubt they’re all being talked up for VCs by the time you read this, but it would be a tall order to sell the saga as an unalloyed success.

    Yet First Sea Lord Admiral Sir Jonathan Band insists the crew “acted with considerable dignity and a lot of courage,” going on to say that “they appear to have played it by the rules”. In which case, perhaps a review of the rules might be worth considering. Revolting as Ahmadinejad’s exercise was, getting caught up in such a situation is a risk inherent in the type of work for which the navy personnel signed up. Many might disagree with Admiral Band that they did not put others in danger: what was there for all to see was the apparent ease with which British service men and women can be coopted as propaganda tools.

    A contrast with the two RAF Tornado crewmen captured during the first Gulf war, and paraded silent and bloodied on Iraqi television, may be unfair. But in terms of reserve, it is slightly unfortunate when comparisons with five-year-old Stuart Lockwood - who shrank from Saddam’s hand as the dictator ruffled his hair during the Kuwait hostage crisis - do not flatter these latterday detainees.

    Appearance is crucial. So pliant did the 15 appear in their nightly media outings that it was not long before tactfully bemused commentators were raising the possibility of Stockholm syndrome, presumably casting Leading Seaman Faye Turney in the Patty Hearst role, with the iconic black beret replaced by a hijab in this version.

    More worthy of serious consideration, though, is the fact that several former senior military figures have taken the step of speaking out against the charges of luminous heroism. “This situation looked like a bloody shambles,” Lt General Sir Michael Gray told yesterday’s Daily Mail. “It did not look good. The shambles also relates to how and why these people were picked up in the first place. The Royal Navy appears to have been inept - but that is another story.”

    I cannot be sure of the precise circumstances in which the former commander of the 1st Battalion of the Parachute Regiment (1969-71) delivered these remarks, but I imagine Lt Gen Gray standing ramrod straight as he took the Mail’s call at a small occasional table in his hall, before ringing off with a brisk “Good day to you.” (Possibly even that was dispensed with. My grandfather never said hello or goodbye on the telephone because he believed it to be a device for passing information and nothing more.)

    Perhaps those of us made uneasy by the spectacle of the past fortnight are just stupidly nostalgic for this kind of world - the old days when wars were waged against expansionist nations, as opposed to on an abstract noun. The days when hostage situations didn’t share disturbing amounts of iconography with the Big Brother house, and captured personnel did not emerge asking for “space”. Then again, as our leaders constantly remind us, we are fighting a new kind of enemy. Perhaps all this goes with the territory.

    But there is a certain moment in life when those of us who consider ourselves conscientious objectors to just about everything but imported US TV dramas suddenly find ourselves a heartbeat away from ending a sentence with the words “and we’d all be speaking German now”. For this armchair general hack, that moment was the Tehran Ryder Cup photo.

    When even the al-Guardian thinks you’re a bunch of pussies, you’ve clearly crossed the line.

  14. Emperor Misha I Comment by Emperor Misha I

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    Preferably from the top down.

    Amen, mate.

    Much as I want the disgraceful fifteen to never be able to disgrace the uniform again, justice won’t be served until the desk jockeys and empty suits higher up have received a thorough thrashing as well.

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    Of course the UK Gov’t has cleared them to sell it- these soldiers have no serious experience with the UK tax scheme at that kind of level, so if they get £150,000, then the UK government will take 65% of that.

  16. ACLPoo Comment by ACLPoo

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    Just a thought. Suppose you’re one of these Iranian Day Camp ’survivors’. You get back to find out that no deal was struck, no action was taken, no force threatened…to precipitate your release. I’d like to give Tony Blair the benefit of the doubt and that he was just calling the Iranian bluff, but suppose you felt abandoned by your country. You probably make close to nothing, as most armed forces do, and you’re offered 150,000 quid to tell you story. I must say, I would do it. I’d squeeze every cent from the whole situation. It’s not like I have to show pride or humility for my country, since they left me to rot. I’m not saying the conditions were bad at all for these sailors, but not knowing you’re coming home at all, that would suck. It would be cool if even one of them would take the high road and say “no, thanks”, and report back to duty…but for that kind of money to simply tell the story? The real idiots are the ones who would even consider buying these guys’ stories.

  17. juandos Comment by juandos

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    Thanks to LC Gunsniper, who was the first to alert us to this, the latest humiliation for what used to be a proud service:

    The 15 British military captives who were released by the Iranians have been authorised by the Ministry of Defence (MoD) to sell their stories.

    MoD officials claimed that the move to lift the ban on military personnel selling their stories while in service was justified because of the “exceptional circumstances” of the case. The hostages are expected to earn as much as £250,000 between them.

    The story of Faye Turney, 26, the only female among them, is expected to be the most lucrative. She could profit by as much as £150,000 from a joint deal with a newspaper and ITV.

    Hmmm, well doesn’t this look familiar: So what is the price of sniveling cowardice?

    £250,000 apparently…

  18. Emperor Misha I Comment by Emperor Misha I

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    Just a thought. Suppose you’re one of these Iranian Day Camp ’survivors’. You get back to find out that no deal was struck, no action was taken, no force threatened…to precipitate your release. I’d like to give Tony Blair the benefit of the doubt and that he was just calling the Iranian bluff, but suppose you felt abandoned by your country. You probably make close to nothing, as most armed forces do, and you’re offered 150,000 quid to tell you story. I must say, I would do it.

    I understand what you’re saying, ACLPoo, from a civilian’s point of view, and I completely agree with your assessment of Blair and the Admiralty. They were royally screwed by their superiors from the moment that the fat parade-ground arse on the HMS Cornwall withdrew their air cover with hostile forces approaching, to the point where he sat on his bum chit-chatting with London while his men were being abducted by a foreign power instead of fighting back and right up to the shameful aftermath where Blair was crawling on his knees begging for their release without as much as an “or else” in Ahmadinnerjacket’s general direction.

    If they were to feel bitter about that, I’d completely understand it. I’m bitter about it. Bitter and disgusted to the point of throwing up.

    But that’s only half the story and, as far as their conduct is concerned, wholly irrelevant.

    Allow me to explain, while acknowledging that rules and customs vary between countries and services:

    I was taught that when you put on the uniform, you are no longer “just you.” Sure, the body that is inside of that uniform is the one that is generally referred to as “you”, but when that body is in uniform, you become something much bigger than that, something quite different from the civilian that loves, hates, laughs, cries, likes, dislikes, gets drunk, angry, resentful, happy, all of those things.

    You become part of something that goes back for generations. When you put on that uniform, you become the representative of generations of heroes who fought and died in that uniform, and you become a role model, an example for future generations to follow just as it is your duty to follow the example of generations that went before you. You become a representative of your country, your service and your unit, and that’s infinitely more important than any personal issues you might have.

    When you fail, your country fails. When you disgrace yourself, you disgrace the uniform. When you cower, you take an enormous, fetid dump on the ones who wore that uniform before you, the ones who didn’t fail. When you fuck up, you fuck up your unit. You fuck up your brothers, sisters and everybody who ever looked up to them. When you cringe and whimper in your foxhole, you leave one of your brothers without cover. When you give the enemy the impression that your country can be insulted and disgraced at will, you encourage him to do so.

    When you put on the uniform, you become part of a brotherhood, which is a huge honor. And, as is always the case with such, said honor comes with equally huge responsibilities. Because the honor that you are given by being made one of that brotherhood was bought with blood and sacrifice, it was bought on battlefields going back hundreds of years, and it will only remain an honor if you live up to it. Because when you disgrace that legacy, when you dishonor that heritage, you destroy it all. You wipe out the efforts and sacrifices of hundreds or even thousands of people who went before you.

    There is no “you” when you choose the path of the soldier. There is only “we”, and everything that you do reflects on the rest of “us.”

    And that is why “death before dishonor” isn’t just another cliche.

    Because it’s not a matter of you choosing death before dishonor just for you, you’re choosing it for everybody who ever wore or ever will wear the uniform you’re wearing.

    Disgracing the uniform is like pissing on your mother’s grave. It’s actually worse.

    And that is why it doesn’t matter one whit how resentful the “frightened fifteen” might be, no matter how justified their resentment would be.

    They’re not hurting the ones responsible by acting like spoiled brats, they’re defecating all over something much bigger than they are and ever will be, namely the ones who wore the uniform before them.

    And that is why they’re no longer my brothers, and I want nothing to do with them. They’re disowned. They were never worthy of their membership in the first place. They have done more damage through their one selfish act of cowardice than ten enemy divisions could have ever done.

    They’re a disgrace, and I and everybody else in the brotherhood wash our hands of them.

    May they soon be forgotten as they so richly deserve.

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    We can all debate what was and was no right about the fifteen for a long time. Just celebrate the brave ones. Don’t know why they cancelled the drama about him-if I was in the u.k. I would have watched it.

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