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Over the last two days, the level of sickening hypocrisy and arrant stupidity of the media has reached depths of nausea that even I did not believe were possible

Chief of these, is a cry to ban all handguns.

This, if done, will leave all the guns in the hands of those who don’t give a rats ass for the laws being clamored for.

We do not have the right to keep and bear arms in Australia

And a criminal brandishes a shotgun in our faces and robs us in broad daylight.

We do not have the right to keep and bear arms in Australia

And we are carjacked at gunpoint.

We do not have the right to keep and bear arms in Australia.

And as a bank employee, we are threatened with a gun as the bank is robbed.Or shot as we cower on the floor.

We do not have the right to keep and bear arms in Australia.

And a woman is shot to death by a maniac, in a real estate agents office.

We do not have the right to keep and bear arms in Australia.

In the future, a lunatic who got his guns from an illegal dealer on the streets stalks through an office, slaughtering anyone he sees. I may be next, as he stands there laughing, and my last wish is that I had had a gun to shoot him instead.

But yes, all bad guns are “bad” and we have lots of gun laws to keep us safe. The government will pass lots more, and ensure we are never allowed to have a gun.

If you have the nerve to defend yourself, expect to wind up in jail when the criminal sues you.

We keep telling ourselves how safe we are, thanks to all of those gun laws…until an armed home invasion gang smashes down the front door.

Don’t let them do this to you.

Please.

39 Responses to “Australia calling:I want my rights back”
  1. juandos Comment by juandos

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    Well as Professor John Lott noted back in ‘04: Banning Guns In the U.K. Has Backfired

    Despite the attention that imitation weapons are getting, they account for a miniscule fraction of all violent crime (0.02%) and in recent years only about 6% of firearms offenses. But with crime so serious, Labor needs to be seen as doing something. The government recently reported that gun crime in England and Wales nearly doubled in the four years from 1998-99 to 2002-03.

    Crime was not supposed to rise after handguns were banned in 1997. Yet, since 1996 the serious violent crime rate has soared by 69%: robbery is up by 45% and murders up by 54%. Before the law, armed robberies had fallen by 50% from 1993 to 1997, but as soon as handguns were banned the robbery rate shot back up, almost back to their 1993 levels.

    The 2000 International Crime Victimization Survey, the last survey done, shows the violent-crime rate in England and Wales was twice the rate in the U.S. When the new survey for 2004 comes out, that gap will undoubtedly have widened even further as crimes reported to British police have since soared by 35%, while declining 6% in the U.S.

    The high crime rates have so strained resources that 29% of the time in London it takes police longer than 12 minutes to arrive at the scene. No wonder police nearly always arrive on the crime scene after the crime has been committed.

    Obviously the socialist libtards can’t seem to learn the lesson regardless of which country they are in…

  2. maxxdog Comment by maxxdog

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    http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,266640,00.html
    I guess Mr Howard is trying to justify the stupidity of the law.
    Brendan, they will try but they still would have to come to our homes and take our guns. I do mean take because they wouldn’t be handed over. Mheh!

  3. LC NCLivingBrit Comment by LC NCLivingBrit

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    Yet, since 1996 the serious violent crime rate has soared by 69%: robbery is up by 45% and murders up by 54%.

    Gee, wonder if unarmed victims are so much easier to intimidate, murder and rob. Thank goodness the police get there in barely more than ten minutes…. I mean, it takes what, two, three seconds to stab or shoot someone to death?

    Everyone is safe now because the Evil Gunz are gone!

  4. Unregistered Comment by jkaiseresquire

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    Thomas Jefferson, James Madison, George Mason, et al. must be rolling over in their graves at this point. I shudder to think that this generation- the same generation that thinks it takes courage to call the president a fascist- would have acquiesced to just about any British demands back in the 1770s- if only to avoid the evils of war. I am very fearful for our nations future.

    J. Kaiser
    http://totaltransformation.wordpress.com

  5. cmblake6 Comment by cmblake6

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    Absolutely awesome.

  6. DJ Allyn,  ITW Comment by DJ Allyn, ITW

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    Well as Professor John Lott noted back in ‘04: Banning Guns In the U.K. Has Backfired

    Although there are hundreds of reports on the discredited John Lott, I thought I would give you the words of Michelle Malkin here

    Now before you label me as ‘anti-gun’, I’m not.

    I do have a question…

    If everyone had been armed at VT the other day, who would people be shooting at? Anyone with a gun?

    I don’t think that any rational person believes that gun control or outright banning would have prevented this kind of mindless shooting.

    Having everyone packing might prevent the run-of-the-mill robbery or assault, but if someone is as disturbed as this shooter was, he was going to do it anyways.

    From what I’ve read, there were a LOT of warning signs that went pretty much ignored.

    This isn’t a gun control issue, it is a failure of the system itself to recognize potential threats.

  7. juandos Comment by juandos

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    Having everyone packing might prevent the run-of-the-mill robbery or assault, but if someone is as disturbed as this shooter was, he was going to do it anyways

    Oh yeah! Always a good reason to be defenseless… :lol_wp:

    Let me ask you Dave, where else do these, “disturbed” persons go trolling for live skeet to shoot at but gun free zones?

    I just hope the politically correct liberals that push this inane gun free zone nonsense face civil and criminal liabilities for their inane policies…

  8. BauerPower Comment by BauerPower

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    Having everyone packing might prevent the run-of-the-mill robbery or assault, but if someone is as disturbed as this shooter was, he was going to do it anyways.

    Point taken. The shooter will always find a way, gun laws or not. I suppose if someone goes onto a sword slashing rampage a la Sonny Chiba style, then the kneejerk reaction will be to ban and confiscate all swords and cutlery. Never mind that most are collector’s items, and whatnot, but the government knows better, right?

    Government knew better how the handle Osama for 8 years during Clinton.

    Government knew better in instituting and then wasting money during withdrawing failed socialized medicine.

    Government knew better in allowing criminals to sue a home owner who is defending their home.

    Government knows better? Nope. And will this current Congress, HELL NO!

    I just hope the politically correct liberals that push this inane gun free zone nonsense face civil and criminal liabilities for their inane policies…

    That won’t happen. These are the same idiots who vote themselves pay raises, and give themselves immunity from prosecution when Bubba signed their midnight pardons, prior to inauguration 01.

    And expect the Dumbasscrats to limit gun ownership to the government, and maybe a few of the select elite.

    As they said in Animal Farm, “All of you are equal. But we your leaders, are more equal. You will follow the laws, but we can take exceptions….”

  9. AyUaxe Comment by AyUaxe

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    Quick tip on avoiding suit by a perp you’ve capped: be sure it’s a kill and drop accomplices, too. No surviving plaintiff and no witnesses is a strong litigation position.

  10. Unregistered Comment by Firehand

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    DJ, if I’m not mistaken Lott’s numbers and findings have not been proven false; he did make some screwups, but as to all his work being ‘discredited’, I don’t think so.

    As to ‘who would they be shooting at’, let’s see, student or teacher with sidearm covers classroom door to shoot murderer if he comes in… or gives cover to students fleeing… in either case, they’d be shooting at the bad guy.

  11. LC Mrs. M-ITT™ Comment by LC Mrs. M-ITT™

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    If everyone had been armed at VT the other day, who would people be shooting at? Anyone with a gun?

    It’s called training DJ. People who jump through the hoops and bark for the biscuits to gain a gun and a CC permit train and take shooting classes. They go to Self Defense classes. It’s a well known fact that more ordinary gun owners train more than the police do. I heard that straight from a police officer. They go to the range maybe once a month at the most. Many only go to the range just before having to do their annual qualifications. Most gun owners go to the range WEEKLY.
    I have fired more ammo from my gun practicing at the range this week alone than the average Deputy has in the last 6 months.

    I get the gist of what you are saying here, but that liberal bias is still showing in that you still see gun owners as a bunch of trigger happy yahoos that will shoot without identifying the threat first.

    We know the consequences of pulling that trigger, and we know that we have to know what we are shooting at first and why.

  12. Kristopher Comment by Kristopher

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    Even if one student shot another one … so what?

    One or two friendly fire casualties beats the hell out of 33 dead.

    Do not let perfect be the enemy of good.

  13. Unregistered Comment by RightWingRocker

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    This post should be placed on every Constitutionalist blogger’s reference list. It exposes the idiocy of the anti-gun crowd by those who know firsthand the consequences of that idiocy.

    RWR
    http://www.rightwingrocker.com

  14. Unregistered Comment by RightWingRocker

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    the same generation that thinks it takes courage to call the president a fascist

    If the president were, in fact, a fascist, it would take IMMENSE courage to call him on it.

    The fact that they do so with impunity just proves that he isn’t.

    RWR
    http://www.rightwingrocker.com

  15. Unregistered Comment by BeerIsClear

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    Wingnuts - THINK about this …

    How much MORE carnage would there have been in Australia if guns were legal???

    Hmm????

  16. Unregistered Comment by Shadow Fury

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    I am a right-winger, but nowhere near as hardcore pro-gun as anybody here. It is baffling that, given the context of the Constitution, the 2nd Amendment is not read as a check on the government. It is similarly baffling that people respond to a tragedy by proposing laws that would have not impacted the tragedy had they been in place.

    An idle curiousity: what limits do you support on guns? Are you OK with requiring identification for purchase, or any proactive measure to keep them out of the hands of felons or the mentally ill? How about age limits for purchasing a gun? Or carrying one in public? What are your feelings about people who negligently allow guns to fall into the hands of small children, or be stolen by criminals. Do you have any concerns about the future- what about a handgun that was completely undetectable without a physical search? Or a flechette weapon that held thousands of rounds? Or an advanced sniper weapon and digital scope that could reliably acquire a target several miles away, without any special training on the part of the assailant? And big-picture, what are “arms,” anyway? I assume you support bullets that can pierce bulletproof vests on the grounds that a putative tyrant would equip his or her goons with vests. So why not RPG’s?

    And a more practical question: does gunpowder remain active indefinitely? If the government decided to ban ammunition sales, would the bullets the criminals have now work in ten years?

  17. Unregistered Comment by Shadow Fury

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    Wingnuts - THINK about this …

    How much MORE carnage would there have been in Australia if guns were legal???

    Hmm????

    Oh, a great deal more.

    If “carnage” is defined as “law-abiding citizens defending their homes and property from criminals.

    Yay carnage.

  18. DJ Allyn,  ITW Comment by DJ Allyn, ITW

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    DJ, if I’m not mistaken Lott’s numbers and findings have not been proven false; he did make some screwups, but as to all his work being ‘discredited’, I don’t think so.

    There was no evidence that a ’study’ was even performed. The school could find no evidence, there was no outside funding (he financed himself), and though he says he used college students to do the surveys, not one “student” could ever be found.

    Understand that I am NOT saying one way or another that any of Lott’s findings were valid or not valid. There are others who have done REAL studies that either uphold or dispute Lott’s claims.

    What I do have a problem with is relying on Lott pro or con. As I recall, even his own “research assistant” admitted in court that most of the claims of Lott were pulled from his ass. He is about as reliable as Dr. William Hammesfahr.

    It’s called training DJ. People who jump through the hoops and bark for the biscuits to gain a gun and a CC permit train and take shooting classes.

    Apparently, this shooter must have missed that training. Oh, that’s right, they don’t require that training in Virginia. Fog a mirror, don’t have a record, and any nut job* can get a gun — and apparently one did. Had they taken a little time to investigate this guy, they would have probably NOT allowed him to buy a gun. The local police were already familiar with him, having investigated allegations of stalking and having been hospitalized for a suicide attempt.

    I heard that straight from a police officer.

    I live with a retired cop**. We were talking about this last night. He cringes at the idea of having to be a cop arriving on the scene of a shooting like this and having everybody packing.

    As I recall, one of the major complaints of guns rights people is having any kind of requirements or restrictions on buying or possessing guns. I am assuming that would include requiring any kind of training too?

    I have fired more ammo from my gun practicing at the range this week alone than the average Deputy has in the last 6 months.

    Okay, you can shoot straight. But do you train in tactics? If under fire, can you keep from killing innocent people?

    I don’t mean to sound glib or anything. I think these are reasonable questions.

    I do dispute your claim that “most gun owners go to the range WEEKLY”, or even annually. Maybe most of the gun owners you know of do, but I suspect that MOST gun owners have never seen the inside of a range, let go there on a regular basis.

    Most gun owners are just that — gun owners. They have one or two in the house, they may take them out once in a while to clean them, and they go back to their place under the bed or on the top shelf in the closet.

    Let me ask you Dave, where else do these, “disturbed” persons go trolling for live skeet to shoot at but gun free zones?

    Do you really think it would have mattered to this guy whether this was a “gun free” zone or not? He was going to kill himself anyways, and take as many people out as he could.

    That is what I am trying to say — any kind of gun control — be it banning or arming everyone — wasn’t going to prevent this kind of thing. THIS IS NOT A GUN ISSUE.

    One or two friendly fire casualties beats the hell out of 33 dead.

    Even if it were you or your kid who became a casualty of the friendly fire?

    And what if you had just shot the perpetrator, and a cop spotted you thinking that maybe YOU were the perp? Would it be alright if YOU got shot by mistake, because the cop thought you were the perp?

    * (disclaimer: I am not insinuating that the vast majority of gun owners are “nut jobs”, only that “nut jobs” can purchase weapons too)

    ** (He has a CCW permit and carries all the time. He is also a former gun dealer)

  19. Emperor Misha I Comment by Emperor Misha I

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    Apparently, this shooter must have missed that training.

    He didn’t have a Concealed Carry permit, which is what Mrs M was talking about. This student did, but being a law-abiding citizen, he had left his at home on the day of the massacre.

    Had they taken a little time to investigate this guy, they would have probably NOT allowed him to buy a gun. The local police were already familiar with him, having investigated allegations of stalking and having been hospitalized for a suicide attempt.

    I agree that something about the mandatory background checks seems to be off here. If he had a record like that, it should pop up the moment the gun dealer makes the inquiry.

    I live with a retired cop**. We were talking about this last night. He cringes at the idea of having to be a cop arriving on the scene of a shooting like this and having everybody packing.

    I would too. But condemning 60 people to injury and death to keep LEOs from having to cringe… Sorry, pal, but you might want to choose a different profession. Besides, doesn’t walking into a school with a crazed, armed psychopath make your friend “cringe” as well? Or is he really more afraid of law-abiding citizens with proper CHL training and testing (not to mention a thorough, up your colon FBI background check) than he is of psychopaths on a killing spree?

    Damn.

    As I recall, one of the major complaints of guns rights people is having any kind of requirements or restrictions on buying or possessing guns. I am assuming that would include requiring any kind of training too?

    The problem isn’t with requiring training, it’s with how it’s done. I wouldn’t dream of buying a weapon, nor would I ever suggest that anybody ELSE buy a weapon without going through some training with it. Without training, your new gun is, at best, useless.

    Opening the door to government setting up ever more impossible requirements in order to enforce a “soft gun ban”, however, is not the way to go about it.

    From an absolutist point of view, I should be against CHL licensing and, to an extent, I am. Not because there is anything wrong with the statutes as they are now, at least in Texas (in Californikate, on the other hand, the statutes are nothing less than a ban, de facto if not de jure), but because it isn’t too hard for me to see where government might abuse them. Again, look at Kalifornikate, where you won’t get a CHL unless you personally fellate half the legislature, no matter HOW much training and HOW much of a perfect record you have.

    Okay, you can shoot straight. But do you train in tactics? If under fire, can you keep from killing innocent people?

    I don’t mean to sound glib or anything. I think these are reasonable questions.

    I do dispute your claim that “most gun owners go to the range WEEKLY”, or even annually. Maybe most of the gun owners you know of do, but I suspect that MOST gun owners have never seen the inside of a range, let go there on a regular basis.

    Again, we’re not talking about people buying a gun to stick in their closet, although they most certainly ought to train with their weapons as well.

    We’re talking about CHL holders and yes, Virginia, those DO train and they DO have to pass a test to keep their license.

    Do you really think it would have mattered to this guy whether this was a “gun free” zone or not? He was going to kill himself anyways, and take as many people out as he could.

    It may or may not have mattered to him. Empirical evidence suggests that it does matter to people such as him, since you don’t hear about too many shootings at gun shows, police stations, gun ranges etc.

    But whether or not it mattered to him really isn’t the issue. It would have mattered a great deal to the 33 dead, quite a few of whom might very well not have been dead today if a law-abiding citizen with a permit to carry a gun had been present.

    That is what I am trying to say — any kind of gun control — be it banning or arming everyone — wasn’t going to prevent this kind of thing.

    And no amount of Union guns kept the Confederate Army from attacking at Gettysburg. Thus the outcome of the battle had absolutely nothing to do with the presence of arms. IT WAS NOT A GUN ISSUE.

    Er… Right.

    Even if it were you or your kid who became a casualty of the friendly fire?

    And what if you had just shot the perpetrator, and a cop spotted you thinking that maybe YOU were the perp? Would it be alright if YOU got shot by mistake, because the cop thought you were the perp?

    I’m glad you brought that up. You see, part of the training for a CHL involves instructions in proper procedure in a firefight, particularly proper procedure when the police shows up. Any CHL holder knows to drop his or her weapon when ordered to do so by a police officer. Provided, of course, that the police officer follows procedure as well. If he fails to identify himself or simply starts shooting first and asking questions later, then it’s a different kettle of fish but, in that case, I think it would be proper to investigate the training of the local PD.

    Oh, and yes. I’d much rather have my children “risk being mistakenly shot by a police officer while armed” than have them be certain of being deliberately shot by a murderer while unarmed.

    The former is a possibility, the latter is a certainty.

  20. chuck Comment by chuck

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    Having everyone packing might prevent the run-of-the-mill robbery or assault, but if someone is as disturbed as this shooter was, he was going to do it anyways.

    The point isn’t that the situation would be prevented, it is that there would be fewer casualties if there was someone else there armed and able to stop him.

    Most gun owners are just that — gun owners. They have one or two in the house, they may take them out once in a while to clean them, and they go back to their place under the bed or on the top shelf in the closet.

    We aren’t talking about the average gun owner, we are talking about people who have made the investment in training to receive a permit allowing concealead carry because they understand that being armed can mean the difference between being able to defend yourself and those around you and being a victim.

    Do you really think it would have mattered to this guy whether this was a “gun free” zone or not? He was going to kill himself anyways, and take as many people out as he could.

    It is irrelevant whether it mattered to him or not. The relevance is if he hadn’t chosen a gun free zone, he wouldn’t have had the luxury of taking his time and killing 33 people, reloading several times. I saw a figure that all of his victims had at least three wounds each. Multiply that by 60 killed or wounded and you get a lot of bullets fired. Even if we assumed that he never missed, he had to stop and reload several times. This means there was oppurtunities to stop him. There was just no one with the ability to do it. And that is 100% due to the insane gun control laws that said everyone in a certain area must be unarmed.

  21. Unregistered Comment by Bwee

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    why is it so hard for people to understand that guns can be used for good too?

  22. LC Mrs. M-ITT™ Comment by LC Mrs. M-ITT™

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    That is what I am trying to say — any kind of gun control — be it banning or arming everyone — wasn’t going to prevent this kind of thing. THIS IS NOT A GUN ISSUE.

    You’re right on that one DJ. The issue is NOT what he used to kill those people, but that he was determined to kill as many as he could in the shortest amount of time, but had someone been able to arm themselves, there would be alot less dead innocents. The problem is that it’s the Gun Control Commies that IS turning this into a Gun issue. They ARE going to use this as a reason to TAKE THE GUNS. Whether or not you agree with someone’s right to own a gun or not, this is going to be used to erode our Constitution.

    What’s next after the 2nd Amendment is abolished? Free Speech? Freedom of Religion?

    Slippery Slope DJ. You may think you are safe because you are not a gun owner……

    They came for the gun owners and I did not speak out..

    Then they came for the bloggers and writers and I did not speak out….

    Think that can’t happen?

  23. Unregistered Comment by jkaiseresquire

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    “I agree that something about the mandatory background checks seems to be off here. If he had a record like that, it should pop up the moment the gun dealer makes the inquiry.”

    Both women declined to press charges. So nothing would have popped on his record.

    J. Kaiser
    http://totaltransformation.wordpress.com

  24. Kristopher Comment by Kristopher

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    Even if it were you or your kid who became a casualty of the friendly fire?

    If you support a right, you must first grant it to others.

    Since I support the RTKBA, I must man up and accept that risk.

    I feel that myself or my hypothetical kid are far more at risk being disarmed victims … and the numbers bear that out.

    I would suggest reading the research done by Gary Kleck, who, unlike Kellerman, has had all of his research peer reviewed.

  25. Emperor Misha I Comment by Emperor Misha I

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    Both women declined to press charges. So nothing would have popped on his record.

    Thanks. That explains it fully.

    Furthermore, it stresses the importance of pressing charges if you’re the victim of a crime. It’s not just about you, it’s about future victims that might not be as lucky as you were.

  26. sig94 Comment by sig94

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    I live with a retired cop

    So does my wife.

    He cringes at the idea of having to be a cop arriving on the scene of a shooting like this and having everybody packing.

    I cringe at the thought of arriving at the scene of a bloodbath (and I’ve done that) and realizing that it could have been minimized if someone had a weapon to resist the attack.

    It is a gun issue DJ. Those students were denied the opportunity to defend themselves against a homicidal nutjob by the State of Virginia.

    Gun control/ownership verification is a process devised and controlled by error prone humans. These systems can and will break down. To depend upon such a system is suicide. You are better off relying on your own resources; you can control them and make them as effective as you want.

    That is much preferable rather than depending on a system that depends on politicians for funding and is staffed by civil service employees who get paid exactly the same whether they are the very best employee or the very worst. You cannot trust a system that makes it almost impossible to fire an incompetent.

  27. LC Beth ISW Comment by LC Beth ISW

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    Sire, not to nit-pick (well, ok… I am nitpicking, but… in my defense… it’s what I do), but the student you referenced in your link in comment #19 was at the August shooting near VT, not the massacre on Monday. In August, a prisoner escaped and shot two people (not on VT’s campus). Someone fitting his description was seen on campus, so there was an evacuation and cancellation of classes. They later found the upstanding individual and put him back behind bars with a few more charges to his name.

    Doesn’t change your argument at all. I can’t help but wonder “what if” just one kid in Norris Hall had a CCL and was legal able to carry it on campus on Monday.

  28. LC Beth ISW Comment by LC Beth ISW

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    And as for purchasing guns in Virginia, I did that once (many moons ago). I had to go to a gun safety class (taught by an off duty sheriff’s deputy, in my case). You only have to take it once (for the first handgun). It took a couple of hours at most, and it definitely didn’t go into the kind of detail you’d get at a CCL class.

  29. Emperor Misha I Comment by Emperor Misha I

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    Sire, not to nit-pick (well, ok… I am nitpicking, but… in my defense… it’s what I do), but the student you referenced in your link in comment #19 was at the August shooting near VT, not the massacre on Monday. In August, a prisoner escaped and shot two people (not on VT’s campus).

    Yes, I remember that event. Thanks for putting me up to speed and I apologize for the loose shit on my part.

    As you say, it doesn’t change the argument, but I’m trying to be accurate here so I DO appreciate updates and corrections very much.

    Thanks again.

  30. Iacobus Comment by Iacobus

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    DJ Allyn said:

    I live with a retired cop**. We were talking about this last night. He cringes at the idea of having to be a cop arriving on the scene of a shooting like this and having everybody packing.

    ** (He has a CCW permit and carries all the time. He is also a former gun dealer)

    Okay, you can shoot straight. But do you train in tactics? If under fire, can you keep from killing innocent people?

    1) Sounds a little too, “Good for me but not for thee,” there. He can pack but others shouldn’t be allowed to?

    2) Cops aren’t superheroes, nor can they beam themselves across space and time to be where they need to be. (And as we all know from VT, they were woefully unprepared.)

    3) An eyewitness to the horror, Derrick O’Dell, saw Cho, so if O’Dell was armed, he’d sure as fuck know who his target was. There’d be no mistake on who was doing the carnage. He talked about trying to charge Cho, but the overturned desks made that impossible.

    PLUS

    O’Dell actually witnessed Cho reloading; that would have been a prime oppotunity…one that was missed because nobody like O’Dell was armed.

  31. Cheapshot911 Comment by Cheapshot911

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    Bingo!

    Fog a mirror, don’t have a record, and any nut job* can get a gun

    If you can find a way to determine who’s a nut job before they implode, you’ll be rich.

    But in the meantime..
    Ska-Rew prior restraint.

  32. LC Guido Cabrone Comment by LC Guido Cabrone

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    Both women declined to press charges. So nothing would have popped on his record.

    Thanks. That explains it fully.

    Furthermore, it stresses the importance of pressing charges if you’re the victim of a crime. It’s not just about you, it’s about future victims that might not be as lucky as you were.

    Just a side note here. One of our clients at the range, as a result of a stalker, decided that the time had come for her to obtain a pistol and a CCH permit.

    As she explained to me a month or so back, the biggest worry that she has concerning her particular stalker is that this man has been subject to multiple restraining orders in the past, and has always managed to get the records of these proceedings sealed by getting them turned into criminal matters, as opposed to civil ones. As she explained the situation, he has always done something in the past to cause a criminal prosecution, then had his attorney request that the records be sealed. This can only be done in cases of criminal behavior, not in civil matters.

    But, yes, if you ever find yourself in a situation with some bastard like this, ALWAYS press the charges!

    (Sorry if this seems disjointed and repetitive, I blame sleep deprivation…)

  33. LC RobertHuntingdon Comment by LC RobertHuntingdon

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    Oh sheesh. DJ, have you even bothered to READ the actual statistics? Well I have. Lott may be off on the numbers and he may have been a lying wanker who made up his report out of thin air, but that doesn’t change the fact that he was STILL ABSOLUTELY 100% CORRECT. Crime has SKYROCKETED in Britain since the gun bans, and the only way they can pretend it hasn’t is by “polling” the people to ask them how much crime they have personally experienced — MONTHS after the fact when memories have faded and the inevitable distortions of time have begun to set in — and then pretending that those numbers are more accurate than the actual statistics recorded as the events happen. Yeah, and everybody knows that people NEVER lie to polling people or hang up because they don’t feel like participating in a circle-jerk competition. Everybody knows that statistics is the most pure-as-driven-snow profession in the history of the universe — one that NEVER lies and NEVER distorts and NEVER phrases their questions in a leading manner to help shape the results. Riiiiight.

    Sodding brainless wankers.

    RH

  34. LC HJ Caveman82952 Comment by LC HJ Caveman82952

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    Brendan, that breaks my heart…a land of my ancestors, my mother born and raised there, on a sheep ranch where she could shoot a rifle before she coudl ride a horse…….a land I still love, a beautiful place with wonderful people…your land of Oz…………where I lived six months.

  35. LC Delftsman3 Comment by LC Delftsman3

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    First off, I must say, GREAT post Brendon, the fact that you can authoritatively demonstrate the idiocy of a total ban on privately held arms through personal experience should strengthen our resolve to not allow the same sort of idiocy to occur here.

    I believe that there is another point in this incident that is getting lost in the whole gun rights issue.
    That point is that with only ONE exception, and that exception being an Israeli citizen, NO ONE stood up to this maniacal jackass, they cowered or ran away from the gunman. WHERE is the much vaunted “cowboy” spirit that is sneeringly ascribed to our people by the Euroweenies? If confronted by a deadly force I think it’s still much better to attack that force with whatever you can grab as a makeshift weapon than to just meekly accept death at the hands of a deranged moron. I may still die, but at least I’d be trying to rip his throat out as he was killing me.

    Why didn’t anyone fight back? I believe part of it is what our esteemed Firearms Advisor calls the “the Pussification of the American male”. Every major social education force in the last twenty years or so emphasizes “self esteem” and “non-violent conflict resolution” above all else. A boy acts in a normal high spirits boy manner and the school requires that he be put on Ritilan to make him a compliant little worker bee. Our children are being taught that “violence is never the answer” and, by implication at least, “the state is responsible for your safety”, even though any sane person knows full well that even IF the State were to attempt to be the protector of all that it is physically impossible to do so.

    We need to try to recapture that frontier spirit of self-reliance and self responsibity that has served us well for most of the existance of the U.S.; once that is completely lost, we may as well get out the prayer mats and face the East, for we will have lost everything that makes us true Americans and the Islamofacists will certainly take full advantage of it.

  36. LC RobertHuntingdon Comment by LC RobertHuntingdon

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    Doh I meant to say that surveyists are the ones that never lie never distort… etc… well you probably knew what I meant…

    RH

  37. Xystus Comment by Xystus

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    One lesson: If you hear shooting nearby, don’t overturn desks.

  38. LCBrendan Comment by LCBrendan

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    I want to thank Misha for letting me post here. When this came to mind, I was wondering if it was up to his standards.

    Misha, you set a frigging high bar. :)

    He cringes at the idea of having to be a cop arriving on the scene of a shooting like this and having everybody packing.

    I cringe at the thought of arriving at the scene of a bloodbath (and I’ve done that) and realizing that it could have been minimized if someone had a weapon to resist the attack.

    And I am terrified of being the next target.

    We will never get those rights back. I know it. Barring a miracle, there is no way we will ever get the right to keep and bear arms.

    There was a page one spread on the VT horror in the papers today.Gun laws, control…the whole thing.

    And then.

    On the very next page

    Mother and baby attacked in street

    A MOTHER was terrified her baby boy would be killed when a man who threatened her with a screwdriver at an ATM tipped his pram upside down in a Sydney street.

    Natasha Walsh, 23, had just withdrawn money from an ATM and was walking her three-month-old son Joseph along a quiet street in suburban Leichhardt when a man with a striking red mohawk stopped her.

    Having his face centred by the barrel of a pistol would have sent him running with a streak of yellow down his legs.

    Even though Ms Walsh gave the man her money, handbag and watch, the robber lifted the pram and turned it over before grabbing Ms Walsh’s head and slamming it into a tree.

    Ms Walsh said today she feared her son might be dead.

    AND THEN THIS

    Sexual assault rates more than double: report

    Recorded rates of assault and sexual assault in NSW have more than doubled in the past 15 years but the number of murders has dropped, a new report on long-term crime trends has found.

    The NSW Bureau of Crime Statistics and Research found the recorded rate of sexual assault had risen 132 per cent from 1990 to 2004.

    Assault had risen by 105 per cent in the same period.

    The recorded rate of “other” sexual offences also was higher, up 85 per cent.

    Yeah, the gun laws have made us safer all right. :wallbash_tb:

  39. Kristopher Comment by Kristopher

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    Comment by LC RobertHuntingdon
    Doh I meant to say that surveyists are the ones that never lie never distort… etc… well you probably knew what I meant…

    Ignore Lott … he marginalized himself by being sloppy.

    Kleck and others have better data.