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LC & IB Allahpundit found a “memorial” to the embodiment of evil that was Psy-Cho and asks the very good question: “Is it possible to be too forgiving?”

A rhetorical question if ever there was one, but one that deserves an answer nonetheless.

We are commanded by the Lord G-d to forgive those that trespass against us, as He is willing to forgive us for our trespasses against Him so, in that sense, you cannot be too forgiving towards those who wish you ill. But, as we must ask Him to forgive us to gain His forgiveness, as we must repent of our sins to show that our actions were prompted by the original sin that we all carry and not an act of pure evil in our hearts, so must those who sin against us repent and beg.

Granting your forgiveness without a show of true repentance on the part of the sinner is not holy, it is an endorsement of the evil that the sinner wrought. Ask yourselves this: if a sinner is guaranteed forgiveness regardless of what he does after the sin, what is to stop him from sinning again? If forgiveness is automatic, then why care about it at all? If the stain of evil upon your immortal soul is washed away immediately without action required on your part, then what possible reason have you to be worried about the stain in the first place? If no reflection upon your sin and acceptance of your guilt is necessary for you to be forgiven, then what hope is there of you not sinning again?

Did that spawn of Satan ask for forgiveness? Mayhap he did in the hereafter, but we’ll never know, so it is not for us to forgive him.

There are few who have the power to grant forgiveness to that demon in human form, and none alive today have it. 32 innocent souls now in Heaven may, as may the Lord G-d Himself, but we cannot.

It is not ours, so it is not ours to give.

And, in that sense, there is indeed such a thing as too much forgiveness.

The ones who erected that memorial to evil, that apologia for Satan, are like unto thieves. They gave away a precious gift that is not theirs to give, they laid claim to a power they do not hold and they, as a result, are now in dire need of forgiveness themselves. And if they realize what they have done, for I am certain that they did not do so when they gave it, if they ask for it, they shall have it. Of that I’m sure. Not from me, for they have not sinned against me in giving something that is not theirs, but from G-d, for He is merciful and understanding beyond comprehension.

Those who built that altar of evil did, indeed, build nothing but a monument to their own ignorance. They did nothing but bear witness to their own vanity and narcissism, their yearning to prove that they are better than anybody else, their unholy lust for being holier than thou and bask in the cold warmth of their own imaginary goodness. Not because they themselves are evil, in their minds they did it with the best of intentions, but because they have been led astray, because they have forgotten the meaning of forgiveness, they have lost sight of our obligation to face evil, to confront it unwaveringly, with a hardened heart, and replaced it with a fantasy in which they can make evil go away by turning the other cheek, even when the cheek they turn belongs to somebody else.

If someone were to kill my brother, can I forgive the murderer for his evil deed? No, I cannot. It is not for me to do, for I was not the one wronged. That is for the murderer to iron out between him and G-d and the soul of the slain.

By doing so I am, in fact, taking the place of G-d and the soul of my brother, and I have no right to do so. It is a sin in itself.

What I can and what I must do is to harden my heart against evil, to lay down an oath to confront and fight it in whatever way I can, so that I may be instrumental in preventing the evil that took my brother to manifest itself again. I must honor his memory by using the pain, sorrow, anger and frustration from his murder to strengthen my resolve to face evil in all of its forms, to battle it whenever and wherever I can, without pause or mercy, to protect the weak, help the helpless and, to the best of my very limited and mortal abilities, do G-d’s work here on Earth.

Deus Io Vult!

But never, ever must I allow myself to turn somebody else’s cheek, forgive a wrong done not against me unless the victim himself or G-d has granted it, for that is a sin. That is theft, vanity, pride and self-aggrandizement at its worst. It is what Satan wants, it is an implicit endorsement and acceptance of the evil that he does and, for as long as I shall live, I shall never stay my sword from a strike at the neck of evil, however it may manifest itself.

That is what my Lord G-d expects of me, and to let Him down is the road to eternal damnation.

Empty, feel-good gestures are for empty souls, narcissistic fools valuing instant personal gratification above the Will of G-d.

I pray for their souls, for they will surely need it.

21 Responses to “Give Not That Which Is Not Yours To Give”
  1. Merc Comment by Merc

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    First!!!!111!!!!one!!!
    Amen. But, you’re preaching to the choir on this issue.

  2. MuscleDaddy Comment by MuscleDaddy

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    Well said, Majesty.

    I was wondering if anyone was going to call the ‘forgivers’ on that.

    - MuscleDaddy

  3. MCaN Comment by MCaN

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    Very nice!

  4. hitnrun Comment by hitnrun

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    Hear, hear. I hereby forgive Psy-Cho for all the wrongs he’s done me. Which, last time I checked, wasn’t anything except a sad afternoon.

    How dare these psychology-worshippers forgive a mass murderer in the name of the victims? When the bodies are barely cold, no less.

    That’s not Christian, that’s Oprahian. No, not even Oprah would be that vain. That’s Fiskian.

    By all means, if grieving family members want to be exemplary Christians as part of moving on, more power to them. But that’s not the University’s place, nor the place of any level or branch of the government. They can either ignore Cho, or refer to him as the murdering cocksucker he was.

  5. Haverwilde Comment by Haverwilde

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    I must take a slightly different view. No, I cannot forgive another human being anything, except those acts that affect me. But I can recognize what semblance, be it ever so moth eaten, of a human being that is performing the violent acts. I can feel sorry for the son-of-a-bitch. However, given the opportunity I would have willingly blasted him into the afterlife. But leave it to the lefturds to find an illogical non-religious way to adhere to a conservative Christian ‘hate the sin but love the sinner’ heritage.

  6. LC Mrs. M-ITT™ Comment by LC Mrs. M-ITT™

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    It amazes me that these dumbf*ck liberals eschew anything that smacks of religion or faith (except when they are kissing the ass of the Muzzies). But let something like this happen…and they instantly start masturbating themselves with “forgiveness” in an effort to forget that it’s their sick and depraved brainwashing that is the cause of such monsters having the freedom to run amok.

  7. LC & IB Kat, GLOR Comment by LC & IB Kat, GLOR

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    Good post, Misha - my comment would really only be that Cho is dead. One cannot really forgive the dead - they are beyond forgiveness.

    If one dies in Christ, then one has already been forgiven and is with our Father, beholding His face. Our prayers on earth will not return our friend or loved one, neither will our prayers change that person’s status. If one dies outside of Christ, then it is impossible to be forgiven; the price of eternal punishment must be paid. Since the substitutionary death of Christ has been spurned, there is no other option for the dead sinner.

    I don’t pretend to know Cho’s spiritual status; I suppose it could be somewhat possible that he was a Christian who was insane, but I don’t think that’s terribly likely.

    But the point is moot: he’s dead. He fate is sealed, and our attention should turn to offering our love, prayers and assistance to the survivors. We should be working to make sure this type of tragedy does not happen again. We should be working to manage our emotions in the aftermath of this slaughter, and channelling them into positive and helpful action.

    But prayers and forgiveness for the dead?! Nice thought - but that’s about all it is.

    – Kat
    http://www.CathouseChat.com

  8. workinwifdakids Comment by workinwifdakids

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    “If your brother sins, rebuke him, and if he repents, forgive him. If he sins against you seven times in a day, and seven times comes back to you and says, ‘I repent,’ forgive him.” Luke 17: 3-4 (NIV)

    Thus, we are commanded by the Lord to forgive insofar as the sinner asks for your forgiveness, no matter what we believe about the condition of the sinner’s heart. However, since [name redacted] killed himself without asking forgiveness, the Lord doesn’t require it.

    I can understand why the victims and victims’ families might need to forgive [name redacted] to move past this, but my point is that they’re doing so free from any obligation by the Lord. I agree with you, too, that forgiving someone for something he did to someone else entirely is farfetched and insulting, and may in fact require them to taste the back of Your Majesty’s pimp hand.

  9. LC HJ Caveman82952 Comment by LC HJ Caveman82952

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    Wonderful…absolutely magnificent. Truly heartfelt.

  10. Wild-Eyed Charlie Comment by Wild-Eyed Charlie

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    Good call. Candlelight vigils make me want to puke. They’re the ultimate expression of castration.

  11. LC 0311 crunchie Comment by LC 0311 crunchie

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    Beautifully articulate and eloquent Misha.

  12. hitnrun Comment by hitnrun

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    Well thought out, Kat. But, I would say that forgiveness is for both the forgiver and the sinner, equally. That’s why we forgive the dead.

    Christ asks us to forgive the sinner for the same reason He asks us to give of ourselves to others. It’s not because He worries about the nutritional intake of the poor, or child mortality rates. God is God; death holds no horror for Him. He tells us to give to others for our own souls. Sell it, give it, follow me, treasure in Heaven, etc, as the parable goes.

    Government “Charity” is a common misconception of the liberals who bash Christians about not supporting their pet programs. They simply don’t grasp that Government has no soul- if it did it would certainly be a damned soul- or empathy or love. A liberal who supports free lunches, condoms, innoculations, or whatever is not a good person exercising Christian charity. He’s not giving anything to the poor; he’s using the Centurions of his Government to take from the rich and give to others to make himself feel better. God doesn’t want you to live in a place where there is neither want nor need; he wants you to willingly sacrifice from yourself to make someone else’s life better.

    By the same token, God doesn’t want you to live in a place where no one sins- another liberal fantasy. He wants you to forgive trespasses. It does your own soul good to deliver sincere forgiveness, not just (and probably not at all in Cho’s case) for the sake of the sinner.

    Of course, all of this depends on the beliefs you hold on salvation and all that, but I thought I would offer my view. (As for my opinion on the candle-waving moral cowards offering forgiveness for a a horrible event which did nothing but upset their dinner, see my above post.)

  13. TJ's Anti-Contrarian Blog Comment by TJ's Anti-Contrarian Blog

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    Absolutely congruent with the Laws of God. While the offended might forgive, the society must protect others from the same fate.

    P.S. Does anyone know where that rock is? I feel a wicked whiz coming on?

  14. Libsareb Raindead Comment by Libsareb Raindead

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    The only complaint I have about this post, sire, is that I couldn’t click an eleventh star to rate it.

  15. DJ Allyn,  ITW Comment by DJ Allyn, ITW

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    Did that spawn of Satan ask for forgiveness? Mayhap he did in the hereafter, but we’ll never know, so it is not for us to forgive him.

    Does it matter if he did or not? The purpose of forgiving is to clear YOUR slate, not his. It’s to put the hate and burden you carry behind you so you can move on.

    Let G-d deal with the burden from now on — let it go.

  16. crusader coyote Comment by crusader coyote

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    Oh, very well written, Sire!

    Last week, an LJ friend asked for opinions on that chick who started a myspace community with the focus of “forgiveness instead of hate” (or some such nonsense). My response was in a similar vain, only not as well written.

    I’ll have ta point her in this direction said you said it so much better than me.

  17. Unregistered Comment by cave_bear

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    Well put, your Rottieness.

    Although after looking at those photos, my first response was “You have GOT to be kidding me”.

    Call me a mean, nasty bastard, but I feel no need whatsoever to “forgive” that lowlife sack of shit. There are some unspeakable acts that go beyond any notions of forgiveness, and this was one of them.

    That prick murdered in cold blood 32 kids for no goddam reason whatsoever. Forgiveness? I’d as soon try to “forgive” the likes of Hitler, Stalin, Mao for their crimes.

    May he bark in Hell forever.

  18. Kristopher Comment by Kristopher

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    Actually … in the real world, forgiveness actually works.

    Some praxiologists were playing with the “Prisoner’s Dilemma”, and were trying to find the best strategies for dealing with it.

    They had several candidate strats … so they created a large virtual population of prisoners, gave them each a randomly picked strategy from the pool ( which had ALL of the strategies they could think of … including an equal number of evil ones ).

    The final population, after all iterations, stabilized into two groups.

    20% were “libertarian” ( never start a fight, but never forgive an assault ).

    The remaining 80% were using the “libertarian” strategy with one addition: forgive a transgression exactly once.

  19. AyUaxe Comment by AyUaxe

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    Forgiveness is necessary to cleanse a sin, but if the transgresser doesn’t repent and seek forgiveness, it has nothing to do with him/her, only the forgiver is in any way cleansed. The key pre-req. is repentance, which Cho can’t do, since he killed himself. Repentance is a learning process and we should be learning when we forgive, too. Like how to avoid letting someone else’s exceptionally sinful, evil nature take away the chance for life and love from others. Allowing us all reasonable opportunity for self-defense would be a great start.

  20. bhedrick Comment by bhedrick

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    People confuse the forgiveness that the Lord grants and that that we can rightly grant. There is a baseline forgiveness He has for all creation, we haven’t earned the right to exist, in fact we certainly lost the right to continue to exist before we can remember. But he doesn’t count that against us and gives us a lifetime to repent and come to him before the final judgment.

    As far as how we are to forgive, if someone repents and asks for forgiveness, we may forgive. He has fulfilled the requirements for re-admittance into society. Since we are neither the Creator of the world nor can we read people’s hearts, any “forgiveness” beyond that due repentance is arrogant in the extreme on our part.

  21. TheBoid Comment by TheBoid

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    We cannot forgive those who sin against us in the sense that we can remove the stain of their sin. Only the Lord can do that, if they repent and if He wills. We forgive others to remove all bitterness, wrath and anger from our souls. In that sense, I can forgive those who commit atrocities. It is not for them. It is for me. And my forgiveness of others does not alter the demands of justice that must be paid by those who commit atrocities like at Virginia Tech.