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Anti-Idiotarian Rottweiler » Reason #453 Why I’m Glad I Left the United Methodist Church
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Assclowns like this pastor.

Listen, you twat, you got the position you have to spread the Word of G-d, NOT the word of La Raza.

By harboring an illegal alien and obstructing justice, you’re breaking the law. Yes, I know that your church increasingly relies on anything BUT the Bible, that’s why I left it in a hurry, but there’s an interesting passage in there about “rendering unto Caesar.” If you ask a Christian, maybe he can find it for you.

I don’t care what you, personally, think about immigration law, it’s still the law. Or are you suggesting that if one of you meddling heretics decide one day, over tea with the Bible safely tucked as far away from you as you can, that hard drugs really have an undeservedly bad rap, it’ll be OK for you to set up a meth lab behind the altar?

I know that it must be hard for you to find meaning in life now that your church has given up on G-d, but trust me: A life of crime isn’t going to look good on your entry in the Book of Life.

Besides, if I had my way, your church would be given 24 hours to hand over the fugitive from the law. After that, if you still refused to comply, your tax exempt status would be taken away immediately, unconditionally and with no chance of appeal.

Fuckhead.

32 Responses to “Reason #453 Why I’m Glad I Left the United Methodist Church”
  1. Unregistered Comment by elchonon

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    my first first! hehe

  2. JeepThang Comment by JeepThang

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    Whats the deal?

    Not necessarily for this topic, but churches in general.. why all the apostasy? Why are so many moving farther from The Word? Like the thing about same-sex marriage and how they are popularizing some vicar in New England because hes taking advantage of the state law making it ok to marry another man. State law isnt the same as God’s law, however.

    Not cool, but at least the Bible tells us this would happen.

  3. Unregistered Comment by Lord Spatula I, King & Tyrant

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    Besides, if I had my way, your church would be given 24 hours to hand over the fugitive from the law. After that, if you still refused to comply, your tax exempt status would be taken away immediately, unconditionally and with no chance of appeal.

    Retroactively.

  4. LC HJ Caveman82952 Comment by LC HJ Caveman82952

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    They church must need a new garderner. Revoke their tax exempt status, as lawbreakers, and jail the pastor for harboring a fugitive. As for the collection plate, assuming the gardener hasn’t stolen it, leave it empty……and for God’s sake, don’t let them drive church vans……..

  5. Imperial Star Destroyer Comment by Imperial Star Destroyer

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    The UMC is no real church. They are liberal and so wrong in their doctrine it is not even funny. Thank the Lord I am a member of a United Pentecostal Church in Houston that believes in Bible truth, welcomes all legal citizens, and tells it like it is. The UMC is part of her mother, the RCC. So, I encourage all to actually read their Bibles and come out from all that mess.

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    […] Methodist minister is deliberately sheltering an illegal alien. That’s smart. Posted by Ian S. […]

  7. NevadaDailySteve Comment by NevadaDailySteve

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    Regarding his take on the illegal ID industry, he and other open borders advocates should educate themselves about illegal IDs and their role in 9-11. Immigration is a national security issue.

    Hallelujah, Amen!

  8. LittleRott84 Comment by LittleRott84

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    Thank God I’m not a Methodist.

  9. MasterGuns Comment by MasterGuns

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    I was raised Catholic. I still am since I see no other religion that I accept as truth more than my own. Don’t bother to send me links to other Christian faiths. I believe in my God……I have a problem with religion.

    Semper Fi

  10. Kristopher Comment by Kristopher

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    The entire notion of church tax exemption is a first amendment violation.

    ALL churches, of ANY denomination, should be treated as any other business. The first amendment forbids passing laws that specifically benefit religious orgs.

    If the church wants to run a separate charity, or actually be a charity, they can do that … just like any other organization.

  11. AyUaxe Comment by AyUaxe

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    RCs and other denominations are far more involved than UMC in the “sanctuary/human smuggling/treason” movement. I suspect this idiot pastor’s conference and/or his congregation will reign him in–a salutary benefit of being part of a large, diverse church organization that operates like a constitutional (the Bible) representative democracy. I also hope, since I am Methody, that this dimwit gets some legal come-uppance, to further purge his type from my church. As Master Guns notes, many of us consider it best to “stick with the one that brung us” to Christ, even if that means we have house-cleaning to do. Sorry to hear His Rottieness has left the UMC, the Imperial Bark could’ve, I still believe, done much to improve our formerly mutual denomination, but so long as you are in Christ’s church, the name on the door is of little consequence. BTW, I also go to a Pentecostal Church at times, because that’s my in-laws’ affiliation and there is no substantial difference in fundamental doctrine, just noise level. That’s fine with me, ’cause I want to hear that still small voice and rock out for Christ. May God bless all who are true to His Word, have mercy on and give direction to the rest.

  12. Spartan24 Comment by Spartan24

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    I was a member of one of the largest Methodist churches in the country when I was in High school. Most activities I participated in were entertainment based, very little religious content. The youth pastor was a lesbian (closeted) who was always trying to hug on me and the other girls much to my disgust. I still remember one retreat where several activists indoctrinated us with stories about third world people and how the US has ruined their lives. Let’s just say that I now go to a church that teaches the Bible, not social activisim.

  13. LC NCLivingBrit Comment by LC NCLivingBrit

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    The entire notion of church tax exemption is a first amendment violation.

    Here here. When I see the evangelists and scammers on TV with their tax-exempt begging shows and miracle hoaxes it makes my blood seethe to think that they’re paying not one red cent in tax while the labours of everyone else (not counting the illegals of course) is being sliced up for the Gubment purse.

    As for the Methodists, I’ve known they were nuts since they more or less kidnapped every kid in my playgroup and tried to recruit us into their ‘church’.

  14. Alan K. Henderson Comment by Alan K. Henderson

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    Didn’t the Apostle Paul teach somewhere that Christians should obey the laws?

    This is completely off topic, but the Emperor has got to see this - Darth Vader hot-air baloon.

  15. MCaN Comment by MCaN

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    Didn’t the Apostle Paul teach somewhere that Christians should obey the laws?

    I do believe he did. Oh, and I would like to give a preemptive apology for any role the bishops and priests of the RCC may play in advancing the illegal immigrants’ political causes. While human rights must be protected, residence in the United States is NOT a human right. The fact that this is even a widespread issue shows just how far the Church fell in the 60’s and 70’s. I’m just thankful to be under the guidance of a wonderful, religiously (at the least) conservative bishop.

  16. BauerPower Comment by BauerPower

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    Alan, good call. It was Romans 13 that said to obey the laws of the land, as a good witness for God’s people. Not act above it. UNLESS it is so wildly contrary to God, not the church institution, but God Himself that you must recognize God over some men. These UMC guys are in a word, religious fakers. They are liberals playing Bible study. Reading the Bible and living by it are two different things. Acknowleding God and living as you can for Him are separate. And going to church versus being a part of the fellowship of Christians (no denomination names mentioned) is a wholly different creature. But, I guess these guys think they are holier than everyone else. They think themselves better than they ought to, Romans 12:3-4 says NOT to. I guess they always know better, right?

    Nope. I think Jesus would be all about the slap down on these fools. Breaking laws, and lecturing us to do so, not very Christian. These liberal religious types are the Pharisees plain and simple. I go to a Baptist Church, but by no means have I fulfilled all the laws of the denomination. HOWEVER, I prefer to stride and live by God’s commands, not by the MSM, the liberals, or milktoast Methodists command.

    It is better to follow God, than Tyrants…..-Benjamin Franklin.

  17. LC Moriarty Comment by LC Moriarty

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    I don’t know what the hell is going on with the United Methodist Church as a whole, but I can tell you about our local parish…

    We joined about four years ago because we liked the pastor. He’s former military and serves as the chaplain for the Sheriff’s office. He’s a no-nonsense guy, likable, but firm in his convictions.

    About six months ago, he gave a short sermon on the newly commissioned USS Texas (SSN-775) while wearing a ship’s hat and showing a photos of the shakedown. I don’t remember how he tied it all in, but there were plenty of references in there to how essential our men and women in uniform are to preserving our freedoms and why we need to have things like attack subs, regardless of cost.

    Then he dismissed the children for Sunday school and got back to the adult service.

    Go figure.

  18. BauerPower Comment by BauerPower

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    Here’s what I do like about Baptists, and probably many other denoms….

    -The follow the Scripture and do work hard to live by it, but must remember it’s God who does the leading, not us.
    -They believe in fellowship and helping.
    -They don’t care what frickin race you are, despite the Black Baptist vs. White Baptist split (thanks alot Al Sharpton)
    -They can drink and have fun.
    -Do not deny God or change or ignore the Bible to suit the cultural rules.
    -Realize God is bigger than the church, and minister is not the be all end all, rather a learned friend and mediator.

    What I do not like…..

    -No drinking or dancing. How can I attest to changes in God if I don’t have a story or two to tell? Also, Ephesians says not to drink into excess, versus not at all, despite Corinthians saying give up certain freedoms when leading new Christians around, lest they fall into bad habits.
    -Don’t like Disney, I do.
    -Have a stodgy image, which my pastor is breaking.
    -Other Baptists won’t say hi back when I see em stocking up at the liquor store. Lutherans say hi!
    -Constant arguments over weather praise and worship music can modernize or we have to keep a choir and organ. Where in the Bible does it say jammin on an axe is bad? And where does it say singing is supposed to drone on versus have some joy?

    Well, I digress, sire, but that’s part of where I come from as a Christian. I am by no means perfect, but I seek Him who is. Essentially the Bible says we are ALL A WORK IN PROGRESS.

  19. BauerPower Comment by BauerPower

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    Moriarty, that sounds cool. There are no doubt some ardent Christians and conservatives in the body of the UMC, but also other denoms, likewise there are posers and deniars, and worse……

    God Bless us all.

  20. Iacobus Comment by Iacobus

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    My pastor once told us that we shouldn’t hate the terrorist.

    OK. Fine by me. Can I fucking hate what he does enough that I can ventilate his ass should he start shit that will kill innocent people?

    If one can’t call evil for what it is, I have no choice but to believe that the devil has one’s tongue.

  21. Unregistered Comment by LC Staci GBOR

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    ALL churches, of ANY denomination, should be treated as any other business. The first amendment forbids passing laws that specifically benefit religious orgs

    I don’t see it like that. Remember, back in the day when the first amendment was being written, churches provided social services. A true church provides a place to worship. It is not a business in any tax sense of the word.

    Misha, I remember you struggling a year or so ago with that church.

    I’m so glad I go to a non denominational church that teaches straight from the Bible. Doug Giles rocks!

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    When I first started dating my wife, she asked me why I, being churchless at the time, wasn’t seeking membership in the church in which I’d grown up, the UMC. I replied that I wanted to go to a church, not a Sunday morning country club. Thanks for posting yet another reason why I will never return to the Methodist Church.

    There’s a good reason that so many of the ::cough-cough:: mainstream ::cough-cough:: denominations are hemorrhaging members, and it isn’t because they haven’t enacted ALL BESTIALITY! ALL THE TIME!!! services quick enough.

  23. BauerPower Comment by BauerPower

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    OK, here’s a good question or two kids?

    When did Protestant become synonymous with pussy?

    OR

    When did God-loving equate to boot-licking?

    When does Christian mean coward?

    NEVER. It’s not what God intended. He wants us brave, but wants us aware of Him. However, libs and deceivers have decided to marginalize Christians within their own churches. Odd how them false prophets and liars are making it into the fellowship. Can we say, End of Times?

    Or, rather, just another squab in the ongoing conflict between good and evil.

    However, take solice, I’ve read the book and I know the ending. While Jesus came in on a donkey, meek and kindly, but no less powerful, he’s coming back and bringing a 100 Million Angel Ass Kicking Army with him. So, those against Israel, lock and load. Those who pervert God and his teachings, lock and load. Those who practice the Blood Religion of Puss, lock and load. Those who are lukewarm, expect to be spit out. It’s getting close……

    Or try this song by the late Johnny Cash….

    When The Man Comes Around…..

    Here’s an audio sample….

  24. BauerPower Comment by BauerPower

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    Staci, I’ve checked Doug Giles, that dude rocks.

  25. Ten-Ten Comment by Ten-Ten

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    Wow, this is still going on. The Establishment clause in the 1st Amendment is to prevent the Government from Establishing a “State Religion”.

    Nothing more, nothing less.

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    CAIR is tax deductible ;)

  27. B.C., Imperial Torturer™ Comment by B.C., Imperial Torturer™

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    Bullshit. More bullshit. And even more bullshit.

    And for some strange reason, when one Googles for news articles using the search words “catholic diocese st. petersburg illegal immigrants”, one finds exactly ZERO hits, even though there was a HUGE stink in the media, a year or so ago, when the Bishop in charge came out in favor of granting all illegals amnesty, “free” health care, housing, food & education and decrying the government actually arresting and deporting criminals.
    :ponder_tb:
    How long until enough people stand up and DEMAND that the US Catholic church (and its bastard offspring sects) admit that they just want to keep the pesos tax-exempt dollars pouring into their coffers by encouraging an endless tidal wave of anchor baby factories streaming over the border?

    They want to serve every poor, needy & oppressed Mexican? Good for them. Move to Mexico and take care of them there. We’ll be more than happy the help out the LEGAL ones here.

    Fuckheads.

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    MY denomination(as I’ve said before I was born Jewish but converted) -was originally part of the Methodists but broke off in the 1900’s because of differences.
    The Nazarenes don’t go for the PC bs and they’re VERY pro-American!
    My former RCA husband even became a member.
    They also ordain women-which I VERY much approve of-and don’t expect me to grow my shortish hair out and wear a dress.
    Even as a member of worship team I wear polos and jeans in church.
    Even conservative churches can embrace a free spirit.

    The Nazarenes are good, God-fearing people.

  29. LC HJ Caveman82952 Comment by LC HJ Caveman82952

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    I was raised a Catholic and still treat the church with great reverence. However, my loyalties remain with the only Being I call Master, or ever will.
    Not always this way, though, when I was a kid in the late fifties, early sixties……well, I used to get into trouble….
    I was just lying in bed seeking a gentle repose. It was to be denied me.
    My thoughts meandered back to my young childhood. Like most young humanoids I attended alimentary school. That is not a typo, it is an attitude. School was required, it was our parent’s way of getting rid of us during the day.
    I attended a parochial school. I think it was because I was Catholic. Or perhaps the public schools wouldn’t take me, I’m still not sure.
    During the late fifties and early sixties they were very conservative in their doctrines and accepted standards of behavior. It was not acceptable to try to inhale a contact high off the mimeograph machine as the copies rolled off the press. The paste was for pasting, not for lunch.
    We had fifty kids in our class and there never was a behavioral problem and to this day I still bear some of the emotional scars I acquired during this era. I think it was neurosis cum laude, something like that. Or maybe that charred stake on the playground……
    From the tender age of six to the not so tender age of twelve I attended this institution. I was paroled in the sixth grade, we moved. I remember a few incidents…
    One of the first things you learn is that nun DOES NOT stand for none of this and none of that. I got yelled at. The phone call was made and I got my ass beat on my return home. A day was never so long.
    Secondly, if you like the cub scouts you DO NOT tie hang man’s nooses in the ropes securing your tent stakes.
    Thirdly, don’t get a B in religion on your report card. I did, and they drafted me into altar boy school. My dog got altered, this called for desperate measures. Passive aggressive tendencies arising to the fore I simply refused to study. I figured correctly that they wouldn’t dare let me ring their chimes. Somehow I kept screwing up my dominus vobiscums and et cum spiri tutu oh’s; something like that, it’s been a while.
    You know what it’s like being the only kid on the block who speaks Latin? And if that wasn’t enough I was spoken to by the priest. You know, the guy who works for the BOSS, yeah, the guy who made us all. Considering some of the classmates he had created I had long since called His competence into question.
    After laying a monstrous guilt trip on me I was sent on my way. I knew I was screwed.
    He was gonna rat me out to God. Maybe even burn me at the stake!
    I was gonna fry and I hadn’t even gotten out of the fourth grade yet. Why bother? And if that wasn’t enough to sweat blood over…what if he ratted me out to my parents???? I was dead meat.
    A fourth thought. Never attend a school where you get six report cards a year. I remember quaking with trepidation awaiting the arrival of my death warrant. We were handed the documents of doom.
    “Don’t forget to have your parents sign them.”
    “Sigh.”
    All the way home I entertained myself with thoughts of …well, you know; wall, blindfold, cigarette, lots of guns……me. I always wondered why there weren’t as many kids in the fifth grade.
    The fifth lesson. Joseph and Mary’s last name wasn’t Christ. How was I to know? No sense of humor, that’s for sure.
    I knew there was a vengeful god for sure upon my arrival to the fifth grade. I had naively believed that having escaped the clutches of my fourth grade teacher I was home free. Well,… Not so fast, buckwheat.
    About five days into the school year I fearfully observed my former nemesis enter the classroom and speak to my new teacher. And my new teacher wore civilian clothes too. I could relate to that.
    An announcement was made.
    A trade.
    “You what!!!!!!!, NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!” This cannot be, a divine conspiracy against yours truly! The switch was made. I resigned my self to my fate. It proved to be a loooooooong year. I developed calluses on my ass, like a mule I didn’t give an inch, I had to attend summer school to even pass. They used to always whisper, “But his IQ is around a hundred and forty, I just don’t understand.”
    Though in retrospect I was grateful for the level of education we did receive. I have always loved the Lord. I still do.
    But I did always wonder if He ever got pissed off and turned some kid into a toad or something…..

  30. Kristopher Comment by Kristopher

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    # Ten-Ten

    Wow, this is still going on. The Establishment clause in the 1st Amendment is to prevent the Government from Establishing a “State Religion”.

    Nothing more, nothing less.

    The first amendment means exactly what it says.

    “Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.”

    I don’t hold with the ACLU’s insane interpretation.

    As I see it, legislation concerning religion should be considered verbotten. That should include special tax breaks for churches … but it should also include not allowing the firing of Christians in government service for public Christianity.

  31. Unregistered Comment by LC Staci GBOR

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    Taxes are not fair period. They are also not mentioned in the first Amendment. Nor is the church officially protected by the government. It serves the people and some churches are punished if they abuse it.

    Maybe the churches can get a free ride on back deductions with all the hospitals and charity work it does.

    Again, the first Amendment doesn’t mention taxes. It mentions our personal freedom and regards religions. It doesn’t mention churches ANYWHERE. There is a difference.

  32. Alan K. Henderson Comment by Alan K. Henderson

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    BauerPower,

    I’m not sure how large the anti-Disney sentiment is among rank-and-file Baptists. Then again, Disney has been making a lot of sucky movies in recent times. How long has it been since Disney put out an entertaining animated film?

    On the issue of race…I once visited a small mostly-white 75-member Baptist church where an elderly black man teaches the men’s Sunday school. (He and the pastor look old enough to remember when the Rosa Parks story first came out.) The lead singer of the music team is a Korean-American gal. Fifty years ago such a church might have been torched; today it’s just another church.