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Thanks to a tip from LC & IB M, whose take on it you mustn’t miss either.

From the Ft. Worth Star-Telegram:

AUSTIN — Gov. Rick Perry, mulling ways to stop the kind of murderous rampages that recently left 33 dead on a college campus in Virginia, said Monday there’s one sure-fire solution he likes: allow Texans to take their concealed handguns anywhere.

Period.

Perry said he opposes any concealed gun-toting restrictions at all — whether it’s in a hospital, a public school, a beer joint or even the local courthouse.

“The last time I checked, putting a sign up that says ‘Don’t bring your weapons in here,’ someone who has ill intent on their mind — they could care less,” Perry told reporters. “I think it makes sense for Texans to be able to protect themselves from deranged individuals, whether they’re in church or whether on a college campus or wherever.”

It’s a good thing that neither Gov. Perry nor His Imperial Majesty swing for the other team, because otherwise we’d be starting to suspect that he’s coming on to us. Not that there’s anything wrong with that.

How the Hades did Rick manage to make it so far in politics while equipped with a functioning brain? Matters not, we’re just eternally grateful that he has. Note particularly the simple, crystal clear and irrefutably logical point: “Murdering animals don’t give a shit about signs saying ‘no guns allowed’.”

“Why, that’s obvious!“, we hear you say. True, it is, but how often do you hear politicians acknowledging the obvious?

Under current law, secured airport areas, hospitals, courthouses, bars, churches and schools are among the places where weapons are or can be banned, according to the Texas Department of Public Safety.

People entering federal courts in Texas are routinely required to leave even their cell phones behind.

Now, for the record, we don’t have a particular problem with leaving our Imperial Sidearms behind in a courtroom or similar public places as long as armed officers are present everywhere to provide us with security. It’s like this: If you deny me the right to protect myself at any given location, then my personal safety becomes YOUR responsibility. If I come to harm, it’s YOUR fault because you denied me the right to protect myself. That’s it. The debate is over. If you disarm me on your property, then you assume full responsibility for my protection. Keep that in mind before you put up a “no guns here” sign, because I will hold you to it.

But we digress…

“Let me cover it right here,” Perry said. “I think a person ought to be able to carry their weapons with them anywhere in this state if they are licensed and they have gone through the training. The idea that you’re going to exempt them from a particular place is non-sense to me.”

It is indeed, and I salute you for acknowledging it publicly. Here’s to hoping that our Texas legislature takes heed and move to pass the proper legislation as soon as possible.

Of course, the usual Dem Cong Idiotarians prove that they, once again, don’t get it at all:

State Rep. Lon Burnam, D-Fort Worth, called Perry’s proposal “a terrible idea.”

“Anybody has a right to tell somebody that they can’t bring their handgun into their place of business,” Burnam said. “I think the governor is just overreaching in a counterproductive way and it’s kind of typical (of the) governor — shoot from the hip, literally and figuratively.”

Are the Dem Cong willfully stupid or are they just pathologically incapable of understanding simple English? A few points:

Courthouses and schools, to name two, are The People’s “place of business” and, therefore, The People and The People alone can allow or disallow concealed carry on the premises as they see fit. The Governor obviously didn’t issue a dictate, he doesn’t have the authority nor is there any reason to think that he’d want to from what he said, he just threw his personal opinion out there for The People to act or not act on. If The People decide that it’s time to lift the restrictions in public places, through their representatives, then that’s the way it’s going to be.

Second, private places of business can allow or disallow guns on their premises as they see fit. Or at least that’s the way it should be, but currently they can’t, thanks to the meddling of totalitarian busybodies such as yourself. Ever heard of “the 50% Rule”, for instance? According to that, no private establishment can allow firearms on its premises if more than 50% of their revenue comes from alcoholic beverages. The owner has no choice there, his “private property rights” didn’t mean shit to you when you passed that Fuhrerdiktat.

So don’t give me any hypocritical bromides about your “respect for private property”, because you don’t have any. “Private property rights” only apply inasmuch as the owners of said property do what you want them to do, and therefore your argument is without merit. As are you, you lying, two-faced, hypocritical fascist.

Nobody, the Governor included, are saying that a restaurant owner or any other owner of a private business can’t hang a 30.06 sign (yep, that’s the actual number of the section of Texas Law covering it. Isn’t it sweet?) in their window, saying “don’t carry weapons on these premises or face the legal consequences.” That’s their right, and those of us who are actually serious about private property rights wouldn’t infringe on it for any reason whatsoever. If we disagree with the owner, we’re free to take our business elsewhere and, in His Majesty’s case, we certainly will. If they don’t trust us to not run amok and kill everybody in a blood rage, then we have no intentions of giving them a red cent of our money.

But count on the Dem Cong and the rest of the gun grabbing fascists to ignore the facts and blow massive amounts of diversionary smoke over the issue. After all, that’s the only hope they have of making their idiocy appear even halfway rational.

Thanks again, Governor Perry, for a breath of fresh air. You certainly have our vote in the next election.

And to the Texas House and Senate: You’re herewith put on notice. Do something about it.

NOW.

42 Responses to “And Reason #23,664 That I’m Proud to Be a Texan”
  1. Unregistered Comment by Farmor

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    First - I really don’t have a comment - just wanted to be first - for the first time of my life.
    That’s it - and I agree

  2. ChefJeff Comment by ChefJeff

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    Damn….Here in Ohio, they passed the CC law a couple of years ago but the state added the clause that any place has the right to not allow weapons in their establishment. Why pass the law if you still cannot take your firearm with you?? Dumb ass politicians.

  3. ChefJeff Comment by ChefJeff

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    BTW - Great job Gov Rick Perry!!!

  4. Emperor Misha I Comment by Emperor Misha I

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    First - I really don’t have a comment - just wanted to be first - for the first time of my life.
    That’s it - and I agree

    Wow! A FIRST, Mutti! :clap_tb:

    Imperial congratulations and many hugs!

  5. WayneB Comment by WayneB

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    Darn it - now I’ll have to start lobbying in Kentucky or you crazy Texans will get ahead of us!

    :tongue2_tb:

  6. Emperor Misha I Comment by Emperor Misha I

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    Damn….Here in Ohio, they passed the CC law a couple of years ago but the state added the clause that any place has the right to not allow weapons in their establishment. Why pass the law if you still cannot take your firearm with you?? Dumb ass politicians.

    As long as the politicians leave it to the private establishments’ owners to make the decision, then I really don’t have a problem with it. If the owners are idiots, then I’ll just take my business elsewhere. If enough people do that, the owners will eventually get the message. Or go out of business. Either way works for me.

    What I do have a problem with is when the politicians make the decision for the owners of private businesses and bar them from allowing certain perfectly legal activities on their OWN PROPERTY.

    Unless the politician scumbags purchase the title and deed to the property, then it behooves them to shut the fuck up and keep their meddling fingers to themselves.

    If they want to keep their fingers.

  7. Unregistered Comment by Farmor

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    just wanted to try and say hey and be first. :whatever_wp: :whatever_wp:

  8. ChefJeff Comment by ChefJeff

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    As long as the politicians leave it to the private establishments’ owners

    The problem in this state is that the law passed by a huge majority but in my city, I have not seen a restaurant, bar, grocery store, or any other place that does not have a sign stating that you are not allow to bring your firearm in. So the people voted for it and the people have made the law irrelevant.

  9. Unregistered Comment by mindy1

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    I don’t think you should have a gun in a bar-booze and guns do not mix.

  10. HoundOfDoom Comment by HoundOfDoom

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    If you disarm me on your property, then you assume full responsibility for my protection. Keep that in mind before you put up a “no guns here” sign, because I will hold you to it.

    Liege, this only works if you survive.

    Oh, and while I was a callow youth in the frozen wilds of northern Ohio, I dreamed of moving to California. Now that I’ve moved to the west coast, Texas is looking better and better.

  11. ChefJeff Comment by ChefJeff

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    # Comment by mindy1

    I don’t think you should have a gun in a bar-booze and guns do not mix.

    You are probably correct but when I go downtown to a restaurant, I may need to park and walk in some dimly lit places. A CC permit does me no good but the bad guys do not do into the restaurant.

  12. Ten-Ten Comment by Ten-Ten

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    In the cavernous, dank, echoing chamber that I call my mind, there has, of late, been an ongoing debate.

    Texas vs. Florida: which state is more liveable?

    Such factors as shoreline - Texas has the gulf, Florida has the gulf and the Atlantic.

    State income taxes- Neither state has them.

    Their Brady Center grade - Texas gets a D, while Florida gets an F.

    After hearing that comment by Governor Perry…

    I wonder if Governor Crist is paying attention?

    Mickey Mouse, or unrestricted handgun carry…Tough choice.

  13. DJ Allyn,  ITW Comment by DJ Allyn, ITW

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    I was thinking about this last night as I was driving home:

    How about un-concealed weapons? Let everyone know you are packing and mean business.

    Wouldn’t that be a greater deterent than the passive-agressive concealment?

    I would definately think twice before starting any trouble if I saw the other people around me were actually armed. Nothing says “don’t fuck with me or mine” than an openly displayed firearm.

  14. Emperor Misha I Comment by Emperor Misha I

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    How about un-concealed weapons? Let everyone know you are packing and mean business.

    Wouldn’t that be a greater deterent than the passive-agressive concealment?

    Yes and no, Deej. Hey, I’m being “nuanced” here :biggrin_wp:

    OK, seriously: Yes, there is a deterrent in seeing a big hog leg dangling from somebody’s hip, but it also serves to identify potential “trouble” (from the goblin’s point of view). Furthermore, it eliminates the “I wonder if he/she is carrying?” uncertainty that acts as a deterrent too, not to mention that it also protects those who don’t carry (for reasons entirely their own).

    Ideally, there wouldn’t be any restrictions. Carry concealed or openly as you see fit. That way you still have the “feel lucky, punk?” factor.

    (And I wouldn’t have to worry about how I dress every damn fucking time I leave the house).

  15. Ten-Ten Comment by Ten-Ten

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    How about un-concealed weapons?

    Virginia, among a few other states, allows open carry.

  16. Ten-Ten Comment by Ten-Ten

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    http://www.opencarry.org/ There are even more than I thought.

  17. chuck Comment by chuck

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    I like how Georgia takes care of it. Your CCW permit here allows concealed or open carry. So you don’t have to worry about your shirt pulling up and getting you in trouble. Also, in Georgia, the No Guns Allowed signs do not have the force of law behind them. Property owners’ rights concerning firearms is limited to asking you to leave if they discover you are carrying concealed (or if you are carrying open) and they don’t like it.

  18. LC Old Dog Comment by LC Old Dog

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    Here in AZ we always had open carry but you did not see very many carrying. Then came CCW and the State got swamped under permit applications.

    Many people carry concealed that would not carry openly because they deal with customers whose attitudes they have no way of knowing in advance.

    My wife the Realtor is but one example she could not carry openly. But concealed ah Misha you have seen a picture of what she carries. :roflmao_wp:

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    Cool Map n info page there 10-10
    There’s a keeper.

    I’d like to see who else has a Castle Doctrine (no-fault goblin-getter) in effect in their state.

  21. LC Mrs. M-ITT™ Comment by LC Mrs. M-ITT™

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    I’d like to see who else has a Castle Doctrine (no-fault goblin-getter) in effect in their state.

    Louisiana has just passed or is working on passing the Castle Doctrine. We have our share of farked up moonbats as far as the social services and welfare queens and money grabbers…but they seldom screw around with gun control. Louisiana depends on tourist income from hunting and fishing, so they aren’t going to pass a bunch of dumbshit gun control laws that will cut into that. There’s a few…but not many.

    16 more months and we say goodbye Looosiana and Hellooo Texas!! :clap_tb: :drunk_tb: :thumbup_tb:

  22. LC MoMinuteMan Comment by LC MoMinuteMan

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    Ten-Ten Sez:

    Mickey Mouse, or unrestricted handgun carry…

    M-I-C… K-E-Y… M… O… Oh fuck it… gimme the guns.

    :guns_tb:

  23. LC Draco Comment by LC Draco

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    This is kinda why I would support a National CC permit. Prime example is when I had my CHL in Georgia, I could not carry into any place that sold alcohol for consumption on the premises, (no restaurants, but liquor stores were ok) but when I moved back to Texas and got my CHL, the 51% rule kicked in, which meant I couldn’t carry into any place that derives 51% or more of it’s revenue from consumption of alcohol on the premise. (Restaurants ok….bars, big no-no.)

    Reciprocity is nice, but you still have to know the laws of the state you happen to be visiting.

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    Before Texas takes such a step it should examine the root causes of criminal behavior to figure out why ciminals don’t always heed the “No Firearms” signs. You see, most criminals aren’t very bright and many have attention problems, so perhaps if inside gun-free establishments they would post signs saying “Do Not Discharge Firearms Here” the criminals would realize their incipient faux pas. Such signs would give criminals a second chance to have a second thought and should reduce mass murders by, um, half. Yeah, half.

    Remember, you heard it hear first. :cool1_tb:

  25. LC Mrs. M-ITT™ Comment by LC Mrs. M-ITT™

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    How about un-concealed weapons? Let everyone know you are packing and mean business.

    Umm…can you say “Prime Target”?

  26. Haverwilde Comment by Haverwilde

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    I just returned from a trip to Anchorage. I was rather upset when I visited one sporting goods store and was looking at their rifles. I asked to see their handguns. They informed me they would no longer carry handguns due to the lawsuits being filed across the country. I was so disgusted, that even in Alaska the anti-gun wackjobs were having an effect. But the weekend paper cheered me up. Nome, Alaska residents were rallying to help their state representative who is having health problems. But the article began with this:
    In 1991, the state representative from Nome was facing trial on federal gun charges. Six unregistered machine guns and a 50 mm Soviet mortar were among the items found in Richard Foster’s possession. In many other places, such troubles could be grounds for a recall. Instead, Foster’s constituents threw a fundraiser to help pay for his defense.
    That’s my kind of town. There really is ‘no place like Nome.’

  27. LC RobertHuntingdon Comment by LC RobertHuntingdon

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    Hmm… maybe if we can’t talk Fred into running we need to see about drafting this guy.

    RH

  28. Dick Comment by Dick

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    Well, as fast as Perry jammed that bullshit “cervical cancer vaccine” up a bunch of little girl’s asses without adequate testing, he should be able to slip this one across with no problems at all.
    I say he needs to put up or shut up. That boy’s walking on thin ice right now.

  29. LC 0311 crunchie Comment by LC 0311 crunchie

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    Mickey Mouse, or unrestricted handgun carry…Tough choice.

    I’m in the same quandry as you Ten, but bangie things family and career options keep me in the sunshine state (Mickey can suck my crank, preferably not on “Gay Day”).

    I have to get my family the hell out of Palm Beach County though.

  30. Imperial Tobacconist LC&IB M Comment by Imperial Tobacconist LC&IB M

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    Can’t wait to get out of Lousyanna. Unlike any of our surrounding states (like Texas) here law-abiding citizens can defend themselves at IHOP or Cracker Barrel, but not at Outback or Olive Garden.

    I guess they’re afraid our evil 9mm and 45ACP guns will get drunk and go on a rampage just because the RESTAURANT happens to serve liquor as an incidental part of their business.

    We’ve also got a great new pedestrian-only shopping area called the Louisiana Boardwalk here in Bossier City. It’s a posted “criminals welcome” zone, their posted “Code of Conduct” specifically forbids licensed concealed carry, even by off-duty LEOs.

  31. Imperial Tobacconist LC&IB M Comment by Imperial Tobacconist LC&IB M

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    Here’s a letter I just sent today to State Senator Max Malone and State Rep. Jane Smith regarding restaurant carry.

    April 27, 2007

    Sen. Max Malone
    P.O. Box 94183
    Baton Rouge, LA 70804

    Dear Senator Malone:

    I’m writing today to address an issue that affects those in Louisiana who choose to legally carry a concealed handgun for personal protection and the protection of their families.

    When the Louisiana statutes that allow licensed concealed carry were passed, a number of specific inclusions were added to address where concealed carry would be prohibited. Among those prohibitions are concealed carry in “any portion of the permitted area of an establishment that has been granted a Class A-General retail permit, as defined in Part II of Chapter I or Part II of Chapter 2 of Title 26 of the Louisiana Revised Statutes of 1950, to sell alcoholic beverages for consumption on the premises.” (RS 40:1379.3)

    However, RS 14:95.5 imposes a greater restriction:
    “A. No person shall intentionally possess a firearm while on the premises of an alcoholic beverage outlet.
    B. “Alcoholic beverage outlet” as used herein means any commercial establishment in which alcoholic beverages of either high or low alcoholic content are sold in individual servings for consumption on the premises, whether or not such sales are a primary or incidental purpose of the business of the establishment.”

    This effectively prohibits the licensed carry of a concealed weapon in over half the restaurants in Louisiana. Our law is unnecessarily restrictive in this area. Senator Malone, all of our neighboring states have opted to permit the licensed carry of concealed weapons in restaurants, even if that restaurant serves alcoholic beverages. Texas, Arkansas and Mississippi have all addressed this in their respective concealed carry laws.

    Senator, don’t you believe it’s time to bring Louisiana law into line with that of our neighbors? I urge you to take action to either amend or repeal RS 14:95.5 immediately. Don’t disarm law-abiding citizens just because they want to sit down for a good meal at Outback or Copeland’s.

    Sincerely,

  32. LCBrendan Comment by LCBrendan

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    Sire, I know I’m going to get flamed, but intensive care units wont allow you to bring mobile phones in, or turn them OFF, for a very good reason.

    In an ICU or some places like hospital operating theatres, the places are as sterile as possible..if you’re going to wear a gun (which is fine) in a hospital, then you’d need to secure it whilst in OR for example (and the weapon can’t go into OR unless it’s been sterilised, which could render it useless…)

    Where do you secure it, and how do the hospitals then accept liability and responsibility if the weapon is stolen?

    Not sure of other areas, but hospitals really should be no gun areas.

    Commenmts? It seems a practical consideration….

  33. Unregistered Comment by Sir George

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    But Brendan, suppose you’re laying there in the OR minding your own business and some masked man comes at you with a big ass scalpel? What are you going to use to defend yourself, a sponge and a clamp?

  34. LCBrendan Comment by LCBrendan

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    well seeing as I will be under anaesthesia and ASLEEP, ya big galoot, not much of anything, :roflmao_wp:

  35. cmblake6 Comment by cmblake6

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    Are the Dem Cong willfully stupid or are they just pathologically incapable of understanding simple English?

    Uhm, yes?

  36. AyUaxe Comment by AyUaxe

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    Thanks, Imperial Tobacconist. I’ll try to follow-up down here in NOLA. Guess I’ve been ignoring such false laws for so long, I’ve kinda become numb to them. That’s also kept me an a very straight an narrow path, since I can’t give any LEO probable cause to search me. Really sorry to hear that about Bossier–seems particularly idiotic with Barksdale AFB just blocks away and Cabela’s as the main tenant of the river/boardwalk.

  37. Unregistered Comment by ancesthntr

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    I’m also glad to be a Texan, and the CHL law is one reason (especially as I previously lived in the dark and fascist Peoples Republic of New Jersey, which not only has no carry licenses for average folks, but which will jail you for having a single magazine of any caliber capable of holding > 15 rounds).

    I’m glad to see Perry finally wake up on this issue (though, to be fair, he has promptly signed all of the pro-gun bills that have ever reached his desk). I’m a bit pissed at him regarding the vaccines for 12-year-olds and the Trans-Texas corridor boondoogle, but this helps.

    Anyhow, I am ROYALLY ticked that I can’t carry in my kids’ school - what happens if some nut goes in there and wants to do a VT? What’ll I do, throw my cellphone or keys at him? Same for a bunch of other places that I have little choice about entering. Oh well, hypothetically speaking, I might just “forget” that I’m carrying - and concealed is concealed.

  38. LC Mrs. M-ITT™ Comment by LC Mrs. M-ITT™

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    and Cabela’s as the main tenant of the river/boardwalk.

    Actually AyUaxe it’s Bass Pro…but they’re pretty much the same type businesses so that’s close enough. lol

    Funny thing is that you can go into Bass Pro with a concealed weapon, although you should check in at the Service Desk to let them know, but you cannot walk 50 feet over into the Boardwalk itself with a gun. ONLY on duty LEO’s can carry there. Looosiana Logic at it’s worst. :rollingeyes_wp:

  39. Emperor Misha I Comment by Emperor Misha I

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    Oh well, hypothetically speaking, I might just “forget” that I’m carrying - and concealed is concealed.

    You know, none of us are getting any younger, and with advanced age comes worse and worse memory. And when you carry all the time, it CAN become awfully difficult to remember that long list of “special places” where you have to disarm… Just sayin’, s’all.

  40. Imperial Tobacconist LC&IB M Comment by Imperial Tobacconist LC&IB M

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    And when you carry all the time, it CAN become awfully difficult to remember that long list of “special places” where you have to disarm…

    Wearing a holster that’s especially comfy doesn’t help, either. Sometimes, I hardly know my XD-45 in the Brigade IWB rig is there at all.

  41. cmblake6 Comment by cmblake6

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    Yep, yep, yep. With advancing age goes memory. :ponder_tb:

  42. Unregistered Comment by Special Ed

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    Re: Gun Free Zones, specifically schools.

    I know that here in Washington, the “gun free” applies only to those who attend or work at the school. LE, visiting parents, tradesmen on a service call, or anyone else visiting the school for a consult or other temporary non-routine visit may bring a gun with them. Firearms are also allowed for instructional purposes. The way the law is written, a child can bring an “assault rifle” to Show-n-Tell if prior notice is given.

    I don’t have the cite, sorry, but I did look it up a couple of years ago when my kids were in school and I noticed the sign.

    Seems silly. Anyone but the potential victims can have an effective means of defense/offense on school property.