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…after all, haven’t the Gringo policia heard that this country belongs to La Raza (Sieg Heil!) and that throwing bottles and rocks is a perfectly legitimate way of protesting south of the Rio Grande, where family values run rampant? After all, the illegal aliens who really own this country have to find something to do in between doing jobs that no Americans will do.

LOS ANGELES (AP) - Police Chief William J. Bratton said Wednesday that some of the police tactics used to clear immigration protesters from a park were inappropriate, as news videos showed officers striking people with batons and firing rubber bullets into crowds that included children.

…women, minorities hardest hit.

Perhaps the illegal aliens shouldn’t be using them as human shields then?

Images showed police hitting a television cameraman to the ground and shoving people who were walking away from officers at Tuesday’s demonstration.

They… shoved them???!?

Police BRUTALITY! FASCISM! HITLER!

Some injured people were seen in the videos, including a Hispanic man with a bleeding welt on his stomach and back.

Bratton promised an investigation and said he would discuss the matter further at a news conference later Wednesday.

“Quite frankly, I was disturbed at what I saw,” Bratton told KNX-AM. He said the actions of some officers “were inappropriate in terms of use of batons and possible use of nonlethal rounds fired.”

His Majesty agrees. Given the behavior of the “peaceful” hordes of criminals (illegally crossing the border is a crime you know), it’s hard to see any justification for the use of non-lethal rounds.

The Police Commission, a five-member board appointed by the mayor, has opened its own investigation, said panel spokeswoman Tami Catania. Officers who violated department policy could receive discipline ranging from written warnings to firing.

For doing their jobs. You couldn’t pay me enough to wear the Blue out there in La Raza-Land.

Andre Birotte, the department’s inspector general, said his office was trying to determine what exactly officers said to disperse the crowd and whether the order was in Spanish - the native language of most protesters.

Er… Excuse us? Last we checked, this wasn’t Mejicow, so we really couldn’t give less of a rotting damn whether or not the rock-throwing vandals, criminals and miscreants understood the orders. Habla Ingles? No? THEN GET THE FUCKING FUCK OUT OF THIS FUCKING COUNTRY, PISSANT.

Let’s hope the Chinese don’t start demonstrating before the LAPD have brushed up on their Cantonese, or they’ll be fired for that too. No, wait. That ain’t gonna happen. The Chinese are too busy working for a living and paying their taxes.

Rally organizers denounced police actions as brutal and unnecessary, and worried what the clash could mean for an immigration rights movement known for its peaceful rallies.

If by “peaceful” you mean “rockets and bottles flying through the air from crowds of shouting assholes refusing to follow orders from law enforcement”, of course. But maybe that’s normal in Tijuana.

The clash at MacArthur Park started after 6 p.m. when police tried to disperse demonstrators who had moved off the sidewalk onto the street. Authorities said several of the few thousand people still at the rally threw rocks and bottles at officers, who fired rubber bullets and used batons to push the crowd back onto the sidewalk.

“They were pushing children, elderly, mothers with their babies and beating up on the media,” said Angela Sambrano, director of the Central American Resource Center.

“I know, because I pushed an abuela with a cane in front of myself to keep the police at bay! Right before I hid behind a stroller!”

“The aggressiveness against the immigrant community is unbelievable.”

Yet quite understandable. Or do you want to see what happens if you try to throw rocks at me, puta? I’ll show you a thing or two about “aggressiveness” that you’ll find yourself spending the rest of your life wishing you could forget about.

Several people, including about a dozen officers, were hurt.

By those “peaceful” protesters, we’re sure.

About 10 people were taken to hospitals for treatment of injuries including cuts, authorities said. None of the injuries was believed to be serious. At least one person was arrested, but police have not released a name.

Maria Elena Durazo, the executive secretary-treasurer at the Los Angeles County Federation of Labor, said the trouble was instigated by “a group of anarchists, not associated with the rally.”

Oh sure. They had absolutely nothing to do with a bunch of illegal aliens on an adrenaline high (or whatever the fuck else they were high on at the time). So the police should have just sat down and taken it, right?

Well, they probably should have, seeing as how the lickspittle, spineless LAPD are now looking into firing them.

For doing their jobs.

33 Responses to “Illegal Immigrants Whine About Police Defending Themselves”
  1. LC JackBoot IC/A-OBR Comment by LC JackBoot IC/A-OBR

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    First- Look for the LAPD brass to shove the officers involved right into a cell with the former border patrol agents.

    You couldn’t pay me enough to wear the Blue out there in La Raza-Land.

    Nor anyone else with any self-respect, knowing that the oath you take to defend is conditional.

  2. TJ's Anti-Contrarian Blog Comment by TJ's Anti-Contrarian Blog

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    This is going to become another Rodney Fuc- King incident.

    LA police have been castrated by the libs for years.
    Occasionally I volunteer to do security at Arizona Cardinals games. The Raider fans think they can come here and “act the ass” because the police won’t do anything —–Unnnnnh —- Wrong!!

    Arizona is still part of the Wild Wild West and police don’t take any shit offa’ drunk belligerent Caleeefornians. It’s fun to help the State Troopers drag the garbage out of the stadium.

  3. TheCount Comment by TheCount

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    Maria Elena Durazo, the executive secretary-treasurer at the Los Angeles County Federation of Labor, said the trouble was instigated by “a group of anarchists, not associated with the rally.”

    Not apart of the “Rally”. I call Bullshit! Anarchists’ platform is OPEN BOARDERS. I hear it all the time. They are in league with World Workers Party, and Code Pink. Plus, the media is too stupid to realize that the riot was planned and coordinated to cause just what they wanted, due to low turn-out and project “Facism, HITLER!!!” God I hate the journojizzers.

  4. Blackiswhite, Imperial Agent Provocateur Comment by Blackiswhite, Imperial Agent Provocateur

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    They think this was brutal treatment at the hands of the police? The behavior of the general citizenry is going to be quite a shock when John Q Public (as opposed to Juan Q Lawbreaker) decides he’s had enough of this bullshit and the spineless response of the “authorities” who will take every opportunity to shit on the citizens in favor of the illegals.

    I used to be rather optimistic that reason and logic would prevail before “bad things” happen. Now I just hope that there are enough reasonable people in our society to ensure the correct result when the horrible, heartbreaking day comes when those in this country have to choose sides again.

  5. SoCalOilMan, LC Comment by SoCalOilMan, LC

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    On the news this morning they said what started the dispersal was a motorcycle cop getting hit in the head with a bottle as he was riding by.

    MacArthur Park was one of those places you just didn’t go at any time of day up to a few years ago. Druggies, drunks and gangs had control. The cops cleaned it up pretty well, but that will go down the tubes now. The police are going to go back to cruising around in the cars and ignoring the “broken window” policing they’ve had in effect for the last few years. The scum will rule the area again.

    This is the famous (infamous) Rampart Division, probably one of the two most dangerous areas to patrol in L.A.

    Now the cops won’t dare to do anything that might get them in trouble and in about a year or so, the people living their will be screaming that they can’t go outside for fear of being intimidated by gangs or stray bullets drifting their way.

  6. Kristopher Comment by Kristopher

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    I suppose they would have been happier if the police simply quietly arrested them, and deported the lot of them without harming them in the slightest?

    I suppose the LAPD should look into mass deportations as a peaceful solution to this problem.

  7. TheBoid Comment by TheBoid

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    I’ve been by MacArthur park many, many times since moving to LA in 2002. The area is about as close to Mexico as it comes in LA, which is saying a lot. It is well known that Alvarado, the main street just to the east of the park, is a mecca for those seeking fake ID’s and who knows what else (cheap tacos from the taco trucks!!). The park itself is always overrun with illegals. If what it is now is cleaned up, I would have hated to see it when it was bad. If I knew how to post pictures, I’d try to go get some pictures of the area to show you guys what it is like.

  8. hitnrun Comment by hitnrun

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    In other news, Los Angelinos still have not caught on to the correlation between their annual witch-hunt against police officers and the conditions their city.

    It’s hard to shed a tear for the crime, violence, and unrest in LA. The local voters have spoken. They want officials who will persecute cops.

    Hey, I’m all about federalism.

  9. Mad Dog Comment by Mad Dog

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    What else would you really expect in LA?

    Sanity?

  10. Unregistered Comment by Draven32

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    So…

    The investigation has been given thirty days

    Anyone want to lay bets as to how many minutes after the investigation announces its answers (probably on day 31) that the riots start?

    (Wandering off to make sure the Camp Carbine has full mags)

  11. juandos Comment by juandos

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    Funny thing about L.A., isn’t it one of those wonderful sancturary cities?

    Is it any wonder MS-13 blossomed in L.A.?

    Police Chief William J. Bratton is a hell of a guy!

  12. LC NCLivingBrit Comment by LC NCLivingBrit

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    Anyone else thinking LA needs to become one of those old-school city-states, so we can stop wasting our Federal budget on it?

    Hell, let’s just gift it to Mexico and let them worry about it. All it will cost us is a wall…..

  13. MasterGuns Comment by MasterGuns

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    Throw rocks and bottles around here, and the reply will be a bit……forceful. Our cops don’t have rubber bullets and their necks are as red as mine regardless of their race.

    Semper Fi

  14. Ten-Ten Comment by Ten-Ten

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    So, I guess if enough people get together and sream loud enough and long enough, the illegality of their actions will disolve away.

    I’ve heard these illegal criminal aliens being compared to our Founding Fathers. “After all,” they say, “the Founding Fathers were criminals in the

    eyes of King George.” I heard this, and I had no response. I walked away muttering to myself. :wallbash_tb:

  15. Emperor Misha I Comment by Emperor Misha I

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    I used to be rather optimistic that reason and logic would prevail before “bad things” happen. Now I just hope that there are enough reasonable people in our society to ensure the correct result when the horrible, heartbreaking day comes when those in this country have to choose sides again.

    I know.

    It’s like one of those dreams where you’re watching a train wreck or something similar about to happen and try to scream to stop it, but no sound comes from your mouth.

  16. TheBoid Comment by TheBoid

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    This is the letter I sent to the LAPD this morning:

    Dear LAPD,

    I wanted to write to make known my support of the LAPD and their actions at MacArthur park. I am disgusted by the way the LAPD has been portrayed in the media thus far and am equally disgusted at the way Chief Bratton has discussed the matter. His officers were being assaulted and battered by people at the protests and in the media reports I have heard, Chief Bratton seems to be more concerned with the officers response, which looked perfectly reasonable on the video clip I saw on the news.

    Chief Bratton, expressing “grave concern” about your officer’s tactics only serves to embolden those who would assault and batter your officers in the future and further encourages people to not comply with a police officer’s orders. That is very disappointing. Support your officers, protect law abiding citizens, and enforce the rule of law without apology. To do otherwise is a disservice to all in the Los Angeles community.

    Respectfully,

    The Boid
    (I gave my real name)

  17. TheBoid Comment by TheBoid

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    To all those writing off LA entirely, I understand where you are coming from, but don’t write us all off just yet. Yes, it is the land for fruits, nuts, illegals, liberals and insane gun laws, but there are people here who recognize the insanity around them and I have to believe that the pendulum will swing on some of these issues, otherwise I would go crazy living here.

    Plus, LA is very fragmented. The line between rich and poor is stark and there are ethnic enclaves everywhere. There are very nice areas and very bad areas, not a whole lot in the middle. The area surrounding MacArthur park is one of the worst in town for being overrun with illegals. A few miles west is Koreatown which is a much nicer ethnic enclave. A few more miles west is Hancock Park which is where there is a lot of old money, mansions, and a country club. The people in Hancock Park, separated by maybe five miles from MacArthur Park are in a different world completely.

    The Boid

  18. LC NCLivingBrit Comment by LC NCLivingBrit

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    A few miles west is Koreatown which is a much nicer ethnic enclave

    Good point. When I used to kick around London I always found the Chinese immigrant areas to be far more salubrious than the areas conquered by Muzzies and the like…. Perhaps LA needs to clean house?

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    Boid, I live in the L.A. basin as well. (but not, technically, in L.A.)

  20. Rurik Comment by Rurik

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    Maria Elena Durazo, the executive secretary-treasurer at the Los Angeles County Federation of Labor, said the trouble was instigated by “a group of anarchists, not associated with the rally.”

    Isn’t that an implicit admission that the LAPD did not start the trouble? Except maybe by hogging thier own fair share of the oxygen?

  21. Rurik Comment by Rurik

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    …after all, haven’t the Gringo policia heard that this country belongs to La Raza (Sieg Heil!) and that throwing bottles and rocks is a perfectly legitimate way of protesting south of the Rio Grande, where family values run rampant?

    Then maybe the LAPD ought to operate according to Mexican rules? And doesn’t that include the H&K G-3?

    We need to send a bunch of 11 year old Montana girls to Los Angeles. I’d gladly chip in toward the buck.

  22. TheBoid Comment by TheBoid

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    Draven, I no longer technically live in LA either. I live in Alhambra but work in Santa Monica so I pass through LA everyday.

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    We saw the fat guy that got bean-bagged twice.

    He finally figured out what they were sayin’.

  25. workinwifdakids Comment by workinwifdakids

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    You’re wrong. On this issue, you’re wrong.

    I’ve said on this blog and elsewhere that all 12 million illegals ought to be rounded up and forcibly deported, and that the border ought to be militarily enforced with lethal force and no warning.

    I doubt that’ll save me from the whirlwind of whoop-ass you all are going to give me over this, but:

    Here, the cops appear to be DEAD WRONG.

    First, the park is split in two by a major street. The rally’s permit designated the north park as the legal assembly area. The south park had no such protection. A group of anarchist agitators - the same kind we saw at the WTO riots in Puget Sound - started throwing things at the cops. There was no way in the history of the universe you could confuse those two groups. It would be like you getting beat up in the capitol building because you were confused with rioters at the Korean War Memorial.

    Rather than arresting, beating, and bean-bagging the anarchist agitators, who were from all accounts completely separate and across a major street from the legal assembly, the cops decided to clear both parks. They had every legal right to do so.

    Let me say that again: THEY HAD EVERY LEGAL RIGHT TO CLEAR BOTH PARKS.

    Unfortunately, they appear to have announced the disperse order from the south park, from a helicopter, and no one heard ANYTHING. No one in the north park knew anything untoward had even happened. Apparently, the first goddamn inkling they had was when the cops opened fire on them.

    Now, my dad was a cop, my friends are cops, and they don’t do bad shit on purpose, so save your comments for someone else. I’m as conservative as they get, so piss upwind about me being a bleeding heart. HOWEVER - in any large organization, logistics get screwed up, orders get misinterpreted, and intertia works particularly well in a FUBAR situation.

    I’m on the cops’ side 99.9% of the time, and I think illegals can rot in their third-world pisshole of a country. So, why am I not happy about how this went down?

    Because the next rally will be the Anti-Idiotarian Rottweiler Rally, and some anarchist KKK illegal alien disabled protected-status minority crippled homosexuals a football field away start throwing shit at cops, and we all get our asses kicked because of it. You cut away enough of our 1st Amendment right to assembly, and it’ll be your fault when we have to resort to the 2nd Amendment to restore them. Let’s not feed into the DemCong’s 5-Year Plan, all right?

    If any of you doubt me about cops either making mistakes or a few bad apples, there’s a 92-year-old grandmother in Atlanta you can talk to.

    Oh, I forgot.

    She’s dead.

  26. LC RobertHuntingdon Comment by LC RobertHuntingdon

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    OK workinwifdakids, I believe you when you say you feel they should be deported, I believe you when you say the order was only announced in the south park… but how do you KNOW that nobody in the north park heard it? A loudspeaker is just that… LOUD. That’s kinda the point! :) So’s traffic too, but this wasn’t an interstate running between them so it wasn’t like there were 500 cars passing every minute, was there?? So how do you KNOW that *nobody* heard it… vs. just claimed later that they didn’t hear it because they wanted to make the cops look bad?

    RH

  27. TheBoid Comment by TheBoid

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    workinwifdakids, I’d like to respond to your post.

    I know you stated that the cops had every legal right to clear both the north and south portions of the park, but you insinuated that they were wrong to do so. Although the park is split into two by Wilshire Blvd, the south part of the park is almost entirely a lake. It would have been very difficult to clear only the south part of the park. They would have ended up marching the anarchists into the lake, which would have been worse than what actually ended up happening. Can you imagine how that would play in the media?

    Also, it would have been dangerous for the LAPD to try to keep the dispersal only in the south end of the park. In order to do that they would have had to situate themselves on Wilshire Blvd facing south and would have then had the bulk of the protestors at their backs in the north portion the park. The LAPD had no way to know if some of the anarchists were mixed in with the protestors in the north portion of the park, and if they turned their backs on the north part of the park to keep the south in check, they might have gotten bottles and rocks in the back. No way would the LAPD put themselves in that situation. The only option was to clear the whole park.

    I don’t think it was quite as easy to distinguish between the protestors and anarchists as you make it seem. The Korean War Memorial and US Capitol are over one mile apart. The north and south parts of MacArthur park are separated by a big street. You said that “no way in the history of the universe” could the groups have been confused. Are you sure about that? Were you there? I wasn’t there but I have driven right through the park along Wilshire Blvd countless times and know the size of the park and how everything is situated. It would have easy for the anarchists to mix with the protestors, all they had to do was cross a street.

    Furthermore, I agree that it would have given the protestors more of a heads up if they heard the announcement that the park was being cleared. However, I don’t care if the announcement to evacuate came over one bullhorn or a helicopter in English only and was drowned out by the noise of the helicopter, when police are in riot gear and in riot formation and marching in a direction, that means, “get the heck out, there is a good chance we will be shooting if we don’t get cooperation.” At that point, it didn’t matter how/what/or where the announcement was given, the people should have known to clear out and cooperated. The people that didn’t got projectiles shot at them. Isn’t that what the police should do to unruly crowds that are not cooperative?

    I wasn’t there, I don’t have all the facts, and I don’t claim to know everything about the situation, but that’s the way I see it.

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    TheBoid, you’re close to me. Wanna go shooting sometime? lol

    As for my opinion? I’ll wait till some more video is shown other than the ten second clips the media have decided to grace us with. As short as those clips are, and with the way the camera goes off and comes back on clearly seconds later, there are things that was are NOT being shown. Knowing the L.A. media, they ‘edited for content’ anything that might show that the police did everything RIGHT.

  29. LC NCLivingBrit Comment by LC NCLivingBrit

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    Shit, if I’d have been in command I’d have just been chanting “Kent State, Kent State” into the radio the whole time…..

  30. TheHat Comment by TheHat

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    The old LAPD would have fire bombed the crowd and swept up the ashes. They got off lightly this time. {sigh} I miss the old days!

  31. workinwifdakids Comment by workinwifdakids

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    TheBoid, I see your point.

    As an aside, thanks for not labeling me a troll or tearing me up. I really am as rabidly opposed to illegal aliens as you can get. So here we go:

    To the point, I don’t know for a fact that no one to the north of Wilshire heard the dispersal order. I do know that conservative reporters from our FoxNews talk radio affiliate KFI AM 640 are saying they never heard a thing on the ground, and they advocate mass deportations.

    We do know that the police gave the order from a helicopter; that the helicopter was over the south Park at the time; and that the bulk of the legally-sanctioned protesters at the north Park were oriented toward the stage, with amplified speaking and music, along with unbelievable ambient crowd noise.

    Despite the envious sound system carried by Air Cav in Apocalypse Now, my gut tells me I couldn’t have heard what was going on over the rotor wash, across a busy street, and on top of the amplified sound and crowd noise from the staging area, especially while I was looking the other way. I just trust KFI AM 640 to be totally conservative and factually accurate.

    Regarding the separation of the two groups, my Capitol Hill analogy was hyperbole, in that I couldn’t think of anything else to identify with, so I went for “obvious-but-silly” over geography. Here’s what we also know regarding that:

    On the north Park, there were several thousand people in an agitated but legal “county-fair” type environment with food vendors and the like. On the south Park, across Wilshire, there were several dozen who - by LAPD accounts - all fit the “18-to-30-male” profile, all wearing bandanas over their faces.

    LAPD officers - already in full riot gear - began taking incoming objects (rocks, bottles, etc.) from the unlawfully assembled masked agitators on the south Park. At this point, LAPD decided to clear the entire Park - north and south. Legal? Sure. Smart? Not even sort of.

    If I were in charge, I would’ve gone tactical on ANYONE in the south Park. Break out the tear gas and the less-lethals, and anyone in a mask GOES DOWN.

    HARD. And stays down.

    In the mean time, the LAPD officer attached as liaison to the assembly leader in the north Park - and you can be damn sure there was one - tells the assembly leader that some bad mojo just went down on the south Park, and he has 5 minutes to clear this park. Anyone who even blinks is going to get taken down, and anyone left here in five minutes is going to jail, probably via the hospital. You get one of the two dozen Spanish speaking officers on the scene to repeat that order to the crowd, calling out passing time by loudspeakers, and then you get violent.

    What you don’t do is violently disregard the direct orders of the Chief of Police and the Mayor by roughing up the media. You probably haven’t heard, but the LA-area media and the LAPD - at the very highest levels of authority - have a published well-known accord, giving the media the Mayor’s and the Chief’s authority to remain in place during a legal dispersal order. In every prior case, LAPD has observed that order, just flowing around media members. If the media gets hit, those are the breaks, and everyone knows that, but LAPD’s policy is not to intentionally target media. In this case, officers on the scene, decided that long-standing accord didn’t matter, and began deliberately targeting the media with directed less-lethal fire and batons. THAT’S why the media didn’t seem to be cooperative, and kept arguing with the cops. THAT’S why the Chief is so irritated, because every street cop knows about that accord. When in doubt, the media is the hot chick in the white blouse and black skirt with a microphone talking into a giant $7,000 camera while everyone runs around screaming and getting their asses beat.

    As much as I hate the damn drive-by media and their elitist bullshit leftist nonsense, I want them there, especially then.

  32. TheBoid Comment by TheBoid

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    workinwifdakids, you make several good points. I enjoy KFI a lot but haven’t been able to listen to any radio recently. I find KFI to be a much better source of information than the newspaper or TV here in LA.

    I was not aware that the media had such free access to riot zones and were untouchable in those situations. In that case, the LAPD should have known better and not messed with the media. I presume that if the media is preventing the police from doing their job, then they can mess with the media, but I haven’t heard anything saying that what was happening.

    As far as how the decision to clear the north end of the park and the way they went about alerting people, I don’t doubt that it could have been handled better in some ways. Based on my knowledge of the park, I think it would have been difficult to contain the south without also clearing the north. I don’t fault them for that decision, as inconvenient as it might have been for the lawful protestors. As far as getting the word out to the people to clear out, even if word didn’t reach them with much notice, as soon as the riot police were in formation and moving into the area, people should have known to get out. And for the people that resisted the riot police and didn’t want to cooperate with them, well, I have no problem with them getting projectiled.

  33. Unregistered Comment by Draven32

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    First of all, if you look at the video, you can clearly see the lines of officers with someone using a bullhorn. Since they are not playing the audio, you can safely bet that that Bullhorn is saying “CLEAR THE PARK IMMEDIATELY, BY ORDER OF THE LOS ANGELES POLICE DEPARTMENT.”

    I’ve (personally) seen the LAPD helicopter when it has been involved in car chases and I’ve been stuck in traffic. Despite the rotor wash, you can hear the speakers on the helicopter a quarter mile away or more. The helicopters LAPD send out on these things have a high-power spotlight (’nightsun’), FLIR and hi-res video, and a PA system designed to be audible AT RANGE, OVER THE SOUND OF THE ROTORS. When they have been near my house, a few blocks away, I’ve been able to understand the orders being given through the PA.

    The media out here believes they have the right to ‘cover the situation’ and doesn’t have to follow police instructions. Well, this is L.A.- the media out here thinks they can do anything they want, they act like they run the place.

    The full content of the video that was shot, including audio, will come out over the next month. We’ll be seeing alot more then the video than the little ten-seconds-at-a-time clips that the news is showing us.