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Worried that nobody will bother to listen to their message of high taxes, record unemployment, Cuban-style “healthcare”, defeatism and surrender, the Dem Cong are pushing to get the Fairness Doctrine brought back from the grave. (Via LC & IB Dan Riehl):

According to two members of the House Democrat Caucus, Reps. Nancy Pelosi and Steny Hoyer have informed them that they will “aggressively pursue” reinstatement of the so-called Fairness Doctrine over the next six months. In January, Democrat presidential candidate Rep. Dennis Kucinich announced that he was going to pursue the Fairness Doctrine through his Government Reform subcommittee. That announcement was greeted with silence. But now, Pelosi has moved things to the front burner.

We have an election coming up next year, after all, and since Err Amerika proved that most Americans would rather have root canals performed with a jackhammer without the benefit of anesthesia than listen to the Dem Cong drone on and on about their visions of a socialist dystopia, Stalin’s heirs in Congress sort of have to pursue “other methods” (or, as it is called in the original German, “andere Metoden.” As with most other things coming from the Dem Cong, it too sounds better in German. With a hint of an Austrian accent. True to their roots).

The decision to press for re-establishment of the Fairness Doctrine now seems to have developed for two reasons. “First, [Democrats] failed on the radio airwaves with Air America, no one wanted to listen,” says a senior adviser to Pelosi. “Conservative radio is a huge threat and political advantage for Republicans and we have had to find a way to limit it.”

Totalitarianism 101. To Hell with concepts such as the free marketplace of ideas. When the goods you’re trying to peddle won’t sell, you just force your customers to buy it. Preferably by taking over the whole marketplace and shutting the other side out entirely, but since that would most likely cause a bit of a stir right now, you can always start out by forcing the stores in the marketplace to devote half their shelves to your unsellable merchandise.

And we’ve seen it all before. Every totalitarian regime throughout history has used that playbook. It’s all about controlling the message. Control the media, control the schools, control, control, control. “For your own good” of course or, in this case, “in the interest of ‘fairness’.” How it is “fair” to force somebody to carry a message that nobody wants to listen to is, of course, beyond the ken of intelligent beings, but that is yet another page of the totalitarian handbook: Control of language. Up is down, war is peace, ignorance is wisdom and we’ve always been at war with Eurasia.

To some, this may seem like not such a big deal. “So what? They want to push their nonsense, but nobody’s going to listen to it anyway.”

Oh, but you’d be wrong, and one of the reasons that conservatives in this country keep failing in their fight against the single most virulent, murderous ideology in the history of man, socialism, is that they haven’t properly understood this. People do listen, particularly when the message is hammered home 24/7, relentlessly, from cradle to grave. It doesn’t matter how nonsensical, how self-evidently bizarre the message is, if you keep repeating it over and over again, people will internalize it. I know because you don’t even have to go back in history to see it in action, I grew up in it. You would be amazed at some of the ridiculous notions about America that are alive and well in Europe, considered to be the unquestionable truth. Not because Europeans have seen for themselves, not because they’re naturally malicious, stupid or ill-disposed toward America, but because it’s all they’ve ever heard.

They went to school and were taught from textbooks full of socialist claptrap, textbooks edited, censored and controlled by government. When they got older and started reading the news, they were treated to a grand selection of nothing but the same, written by people who’d gone through the same indoctrination process. Turn on the TV, more of the same. Every single day of their lives, from sunrise to sunset.

Or take a look right here at home. Remember the story not too long ago how they were having trouble in Florida finding a jury for the upcoming Padilla trial because too many prospective jurors hadn’t yet made their minds up about who caused friggin’ 9/11? The “sixteen words” from President Bush’s State of the Union Address in 2002? Ask a random sampling of people on the street whether Niger was mentioned in there and, on the off-chance that you find somebody who reads the news, they’ll answer “sure.”

It doesn’t matter how much of a lie it is, it doesn’t even matter that you can go look up the original text on the Internet in a matter of minutes and see that it’s a flat out lie, as long as the lie is repeated often enough, it becomes the truth sooner or later.

But you have to get the message hammered home and, in a free market, if people won’t voluntarily tune into the stations airing your lies, then you have to force the ones they do listen to to carry them.

That’s not “fairness”, that’s totalitarianism of the very first water, which is why it’s hardly a surprise that a political party like the Dem Cong, as devoted to government control of every single aspect of our lives as they are, would embrace it fully and push it every chance they get. They don’t want you to think for yourself, they don’t want you to choose for yourself, because that would threaten their dreams of total control.

“For your own good”, of course. Because they’re smarter, they’re better than you and they caaaaaaare!

They care alright, but it’s not about you.

And that’s why this is a big deal.

They’ve already grabbed control of our schools, they pretty much own the MSM, they’re itching to get their hands on healthcare so they can ensure eternal rule by having the threat of taking it away from you unless you vote for them, and they really, really want to shut up those who expose their agenda.

And they will stop at nothing to achieve that goal.

75 Responses to ““Dammit! Ve Vill FORCE Zem To Listen!””
  1. Elijah Comment by Elijah

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    I just hope those conservatives that didn’t vote for GWB will vote this time around so that none of this piffle is fostered on the public.

  2. LC SkyeChild Comment by LC SkyeChild

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    Elijah,

    God help this country if shrillary gets elected, and we get a democrat(ick) congress. They will destroy this country.

  3. MuscleDaddy Comment by MuscleDaddy

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    “First, [Democrats] failed on the radio airwaves with Air America, no one wanted to listen,” says a senior adviser to Pelosi. “Conservative radio is a huge threat and political advantage for Republicans and we have had to find a way to limit it.”

    I…I…just never expected them to just …tell the TRUTH like that…

    I need a drink.

    - MuscleDaddy

  4. Unregistered Comment by Special Ed

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    His Majesty is right, you know. It does sound better in German.
    Huh.

  5. Robohobo Comment by Robohobo

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    Muscledaddy - Pretty wierd isn’t it? They are telling us they do not want us evil conservatives to have a fair shake. But we pretty much knew that already.

    They can not face the fact that their lies are not believed and must find a way to limit the truth to their version of truth which has nothing to do with anything actually being true. [Whew!]

  6. LC SkyeChild Comment by LC SkyeChild

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    Wasn’t it HIllary who, just a few months back, said something to the effect that the government will have to take things away from us? And that the government needs to take Exxon Mobil’s (i believe it was) profits?

    How can people NOT see that?????

    Nice to see you…again…MuscleDaddy. 8-)

  7. LC SkyeChild Comment by LC SkyeChild

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    Robohobo,

    Unfortunately, too many people ARE believing the tripe from the left. “We are losing the war in Iraq; Bush lied, people died; the government was responsible for 9/11″ and on and on and on.

  8. tvfoh Comment by tvfoh

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    Muscle daddy don’t drink. if they come to get you tonight you won’t be able to shoot straight. wink wink

    if you think your rep will listen, mine probably won’t he is a demwhit OH 6th ( the most gerrymandered district in the country), tell him what you think about this lousy idea.

    Ted

  9. Xystus Comment by Xystus

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    Well, two (sides?) can play at that game. We can keep hammering home the points we want to make–& some of us do, & do it often (& maybe even well :king_tb: :thumbup_tb:)–with the advantage that what we say is true!

    In other words, we can counter the Big Lies with our Big(ger) Truths. :exclaim_wp: :idea_wp: :exclaim_wp:

    Und, wann es noetig ist, die Manche von uns koennen auch es auf Deutsch machen, idiotaerische Schweinhuende! :mad_wp:

  10. Trooper THX1138 Comment by Trooper THX1138

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    It won’t be video that killed the radio star: It’ll be the Dim Cong.

    How much you wanna bet they’ll offer Google the contract (non-competitive, of course) to make sure teh Intarwebnets are run exactly how THEY say it should be, and have only the content THEY say it should have? Don’t be evil my hairy, pasty, white arse. :evil_wp: :furious_tb: :roadrage_wp:

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    Time for the dhimmis to meet Lord Fluffles the Crispy. He’s even worse than the Killer Rabbit guarding Castle Arrrrrgh!, because he’s undead. And breathes fire. :furious_tb:

  12. Unregistered Comment by Lupos87

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    “First, [Democrats] failed on the radio airwaves with Air America, no one wanted to listen,” says a senior adviser to Pelosi. “Conservative radio is a huge threat and political advantage for Republicans and we have had to find a way to limit it. Second, it looks like the Republicans are going to have someone in the presidential race who has access to media in ways our folks don’t want, so we want to make sure the GOP has no advantages going into 2008.”

    “Ist dis Nazi land so good, wud you leave it if you cud?”
    This is honestly disgusting in ways which I really cannot express in words. Oh no, the conservatives are too popular, we have to contain them! The irresponsibility of said statement is unprecedented, at least in US history. I think it also shows that the D’s know that even with Obama they don’t stand a chance in hell in this next election. Why else would they try so hard to silence their opposition?

  13. LC&IB Vulcanrider Comment by LC&IB Vulcanrider

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    And you can bet this one won’t be attached to a bill they KNOW the White House will veto.

    Conservative radio is a huge threat and political advantage for Republicans and we have had to find a way to limit it.”

    Yellow journalism has returned to the MSM and now these moonbats come straight out and ADMIT that freedom of speech is a threat to their very existence. Thanks for being so honest for a change…

  14. Red Five Comment by Red Five

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    “Ja, dis Nazi land so gut, ve vould leave it if ve cud!”

    I’m amazed that the senior advisor droid could say that with a straight face!

    “Everyone of foreign rrrace, vill love ze Fuehrer’s face, ven ve brrrring to ze vorld disorder”

    Mein Gott im Himmel…

    With apologies to His Rottiness,

    Rope. Tree. Congresscritter.
    Some assembly required.

  15. LC Wil Comment by LC Wil

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    Comes the REVOLUCION!

    Prepare for the day, my Brothers. It comes.

  16. LC NCLivingBrit Comment by LC NCLivingBrit

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    Prepare for the day, my Brothers. It comes.

    Yeah, I’ve been looking for the sign up sheet for that…. Seriously, how can a political party in this country (who prate on and on about freedom of speech) get away with bluntly saying that the 1st Amendment only applies if people like what -they- are saying?

    Can we get some Goddamn rope already?

  17. Unregistered Comment by Special Ed

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    I suppose that if we no longer have the option of utilizing our 1st Amendment rights to vent, we’ll have to fall back on the 2nd …

    Gee, whiz! How many of you(us) freaks know all of the lyrics to “Der Fuehrer’s Face”?

  18. Unregistered Comment by Cheryl

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    It’s not so much honesty that scum is exhibiting by trashing the First Amendment; it’s the absolute arrogance of it, and that they’re so sure they’ll get away with it. They probably will. Radio will be first. Then it will be what you can or cannot say privately or in print.

    Prepare for the day, my Brothers. It comes.

    I just hope we can count on the military being on our side.

  19. LC Duncan Avatar Comment by LC Duncan Avatar

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    It will get vetoed if they try it with Bush. The problem is, what happens if Obama/Hillary/etc gets elected and the Dem Cong continue to control Congress. If something like this gets passed, I EXPECT the ACLU (who else?) to scream about free speech and how this is EVVVVIIILLL!! :jittery_tb: Yeah, I know, I won’t hold my breath. However, our only legal hope then would be the supreme court, and I can’t remember if they let this pass the last time it was enacted….

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    […] very hot and bothered now about bringing back the infamous “Fairness Doctrine”. Posted by Ian S. […]

  21. juandos Comment by juandos

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    “Dammit! Ve Vill FORCE Zem To Listen!”

    Like the New York Times, maybe?

    Via Flopping Aces: No Evidence Of Religion In The Fort Dix Terrorist Plot… :lol_wp:

    One of the major problems with the dhimiturd trying to foist of the fairness doctrine is going to be money…

    Consider how many radio stations make serious money due to the likes of Limbaugh, Hannity, Savage, and so forth…

    I think the radio stations/conglomerates aren’t going to want to lose all that ad revenue when people start tuning out the aforementioned conservative talk show hosts because some whining libtard wants equal time to make a complete fool of him/her self…

    =========================================
    Chelsea Clinton asked a returning US Soldier about what he feared.

    He said, “There are only three things I am afraid of: Osama, Obama and YoMama.”

  22. juandos Comment by juandos

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    Well dang!

    Did the spam eater eat my previous note?

  23. LC SkyeChild Comment by LC SkyeChild

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    Apparently, the younger generation learned NOTHING from WWII. I once heard someone say that the only reason socialism failed in ALL THOSE OTHER COUNTRIES is because it wasn’t done “correctly.” We were headed head first into socialism. Now, it looks more like we’re headed into communism.

  24. LC SkyeChild Comment by LC SkyeChild

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    Jandos,

    Considering some of the stuff that you and B.C. post, maybe it wanted to save some monitors, etc. 8-)

  25. sixfootbrit Comment by sixfootbrit

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    Best thing we can do (in addition to calling our local Reps) is to keep doing what we’re doing. Obviously it’s working!

  26. AyUaxe Comment by AyUaxe

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    Aren’t the demoncrats kinda stickin’ their weenies in the meat grinder, here? They’re so worried about conservative talk radio that they want to reinstate the fairness doctrine, when the major beneficiary of such legislation, as applied to every other aspect of MSM would be—-conservatives who we all agree are grossly under represented in personnel and views. Couric would have to yield equal time to Hannity or some such, right? I’m totally unconvinced that anyone is really swayed by Rush or any other radio pundit–the venue is just too oriented to self-satisfaction and transitory entertainment. Rush might get you thinkin’, but in a couple of minutes, anybody with sense will be scooting the dial to the oldies, jazz, cajun (if you’re in God’s country), gospel or even fresh air station (way off the leftist end, but they did introduce me to Cesaria Evora, for which I am forever somewhat grudgingly grateful). Wouldn’t they all have to allow some conservative broadcasting, too?

  27. LC SkyeChild Comment by LC SkyeChild

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    SNARK alert, and WAAAAYYYY OT:

    I don’t know what Pennsylvania’s gun laws are like, but if guns are banned, it’s a good thing, because these people may have been SHOT to death, instead of stabbed, if they had been:

    Police: No Suspects Yet in Killing of Pennsylvania Couple, Teen At Home

    Link:

    http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,272415,00.html

    Guess it’s time to ban all knives now.

    /snark off

  28. Unregistered Comment by Cheryl

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    Re: Flopping Aces

    “Throughout the 90-minute-long tape, above the booming gunfire at a Pennsylvania target range, the jihadists could be heard screaming ‘God is great!’”

    :roflmao_wp: :dunce_tb:

  29. Unregistered Comment by jkaiseresquire

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    These are the same leftists who accuse Bush of being a tyrant and a fascist. They need one of those off-sets you talked about several posts ago.

    J. Kaiser
    http://totaltransformation.wordpress.com

  30. Viceroy of TexMexica Comment by Viceroy of TexMexica

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    I have (had) some good conservative friends who are starting to repeat MSM lies…so Goebbels was right.

    My advise….just turn off the Tube. Even Fox is too sympathetic to the left at times.

  31. WayneB Comment by WayneB

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    AyUaxe - problem is, they’ll define the MSM as “balanced”, so they won’t have to provide equal time to “those right-wingers”.

    On the other hand, what they are really trying to do is force the radio stations to use up hours of their time on totally unprofitable programming for the “competing viewpoint” that they give “Equal Time” to, so the stations will cut back the amount of time allotted to the conservative programs in order to also cut back the “Equal Time” programming so they will be able to keep making any money.

  32. juandos Comment by juandos

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    SkyeChild says:

    Considering some of the stuff that you and B.C. post, maybe it wanted to save some monitors, etc. 8-)

    Vous me signifiez? :roflmao_wp:

    Am I the only one who didn’t see this incredibly horrid story?

    (hat tip to Flopping Aces)

    I also noted it was sited at Urban Legends

  33. Unregistered Comment by tradewind

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    Speaking of forcing them to listen…Michael ‘Jabba’ Moore has issued a challenge to Fred Thompson… he wants to debate the Senator.
    Bwahahahahahahah
    Kinda like Jack Bauer taking on WH advisor McNumbers.

  34. Unregistered Comment by tradewind

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    (And Jack did kick some butt last night in that kewl fight in the halls).
    So please, can we have the Imperial take on it?

  35. Unregistered Comment by kross

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    I agree with your point, but I have to pick a nit:

    The “sixteen words” from President Bush’s State of the Union Address in 2002? Ask a random sampling of people on the street whether Niger was mentioned in there and, on the off-chance that you find somebody who reads the news, they’ll answer “sure.” It doesn’t matter how much of a lie it is, it doesn’t even matter that you can go look up the original text on the Internet in a matter of minutes and see that it’s a flat out lie, as long as the lie is repeated often enough, it becomes the truth sooner or later.

    Does it really advance the argument, given that Saddam did try to buy yellow cake from Niger, to point out that any OTHER recent British report of Iraq trying to buy uranium in Africa would make the sixteen words true, also? If A implies B, and A is known to be true, is it worthwhile saying that A-prime could also imply B, when we have no idea if A-prime is true? I think not.

    The MSM “big lie” in the yellow cake case is a little more subtle: focusing on Wilson’s denial of a yellow cake purchase to the exclusion of evidence that the Iraqi ambassador to the Vatican attempted to open “trade relations” with a country whose only real export is uranium (which Wilson confirmed), and focusing on some badly forged documents “proving” the acquisition to the exclusion of earlier reports that the attempt had been made.

  36. LC JackBoot IC/A-OBR Comment by LC JackBoot IC/A-OBR

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    Why am I not surprised? Boss you remember our discussion on or about Nov. 6, 2006? I do remember it was mentioned and all agreed this totalitarian-turd would reemerge. I could’ve guessed none other than Empress Lugosi would be the first on her broom, etching it in the sky.

    Conservative radio is a huge threat and political advantage for Republicans

    They fear us, fear is good, it makes them do irrational things. leaving we death-beasts of the right numerous attack points.

    For The Record: You can have my transmitter software back under similar conditions as my firearms, bring your lunch and notify you next-of-kin, just sayin’.

    Thanks for another show rant tonight: Tuesday Truth, RadioCIA 7pm CT.

  37. Emperor Misha I Comment by Emperor Misha I

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    Does it really advance the argument, given that Saddam did try to buy yellow cake from Niger, to point out that any OTHER recent British report of Iraq trying to buy uranium in Africa would make the sixteen words true, also? If A implies B, and A is known to be true, is it worthwhile saying that A-prime could also imply B, when we have no idea if A-prime is true? I think not.

    The MSM “big lie” in the yellow cake case is a little more subtle: focusing on Wilson’s denial of a yellow cake purchase to the exclusion of evidence that the Iraqi ambassador to the Vatican attempted to open “trade relations” with a country whose only real export is uranium (which Wilson confirmed), and focusing on some badly forged documents “proving” the acquisition to the exclusion of earlier reports that the attempt had been made.

    The argument here is that the MSM is lying, deliberately, by claiming that “the sixteen words” included something that they didn’t. You are, of course, right that they are also lying deliberately about “Saddam never trying to purchase yellow-cake in the first place.”

    That lie, too, has gained traction through endless repetition.

    Why am I not surprised? Boss you remember our discussion on or about Nov. 6, 2006? I do remember it was mentioned and all agreed this totalitarian-turd would reemerge. I could’ve guessed none other than Empress Lugosi would be the first on her broom, etching it in the sky.

    Indeed I remember, brother, and here it is, right on time exactly as we’d expected.

    It’s not like they have a choice. If you have to win an argument and you know that the facts and common sense are against you, your only option is to gag the opposition or drown them in an avalanche of lies.

    Tyranny, oppression, lies, control, power, intimidation and coercion.

    Or, as it’s also known: Socialism.

  38. Unregistered Comment by Red Neckerson

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    Just for laughs, read the print version of 1984 (both movies totally sucked) and you will find Orwell to be damned accurate.

    Savage says that “…liberalism is a mental disorder”; I submit that the dhimmicrats wouldn’t waste a single tear if they convinced the planet that patriotism was a criminal act.

  39. Mike M Comment by Mike M

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    The “sixteen words” from President Bush’s State of the Union Address in 2002?


    If this film clip is any indication
    , Nancy didn’t catch any sixteen words of this year’s SOTU speech.

  40. Unregistered Comment by LC Croaker

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    Aren’t the demoncrats kinda stickin’ their weenies in the meat grinder, here? They’re so worried about conservative talk radio that they want to reinstate the fairness doctrine, when the major beneficiary of such legislation, as applied to every other aspect of MSM would be—-conservatives who we all agree are grossly under represented in personnel and views. Couric would have to yield equal time to Hannity or some such, right?

    No.

    By the Dem Cong’s definition, Couric et al are neutral. So is Michael Moore, so is the Daily Plotz.

    It’s only Rush, His Rottie-ness, and the rest of us right-wingers who aren’t neutral, to them.

  41. Unregistered Comment by JonB

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    how long will we sit back and let them use “freedom of speech” to forward their push for no freedom of speech?

    Every day I see the democrats and liberals open their mouths, the more I regret that Freedom of Speech even exists.

  42. Cheapshot911 Comment by Cheapshot911

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    They’ve never been long on long strategy.

    This strategy is not to get a message out, but to stifle others. That’s real freedom to a libertard.

    After the weapon is crafted and cobbled together, I don’t expect it’ll be too long till they discover how easily it can be pivoted to blow their own yakkin’ heads off.

    There’s that smell again. Yargh.

  43. jaybear Comment by jaybear

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    Wait a minute….I though these people were all about Freedom of Choice.

    oh, my bad….that freedom only applies when it comes to sucking the brains out of unborn babies.

    again….my bad….

  44. Cheapshot911 Comment by Cheapshot911

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    sucking the brains out of unborn babies.

    ‘Not sure if that’s always fatal, it could account for a lot of what we’re hearin’ from lugosi.

    Livin’ my nym…thassall

  45. jaybear Comment by jaybear

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    Not sure if that’s always fatal, it could account for a lot of what we’re hearin’ from lugosi.

    I thought her stupidity was due to the required lobotomy she received when she joined the dhimmicrat party….

    keep livin’ your name Cheapshot, we expect it from you man.

  46. Merc Comment by Merc

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    Thanks for the spew warning????
    But maybe i should have seen it coming, thats almost like my DD coffee being hot…hooda thot?
    (note to self: get a towel before reading posts about congress critters)
    Anyway…

    What is the opposite of pro? con
    So what is the opposite of progress? Congress

    Shut up. You almost laughed. Put away the tar and feathers… Its not my joke, I only tell it. :dry_tb: :drunk_tb:

  47. LC Wil Comment by LC Wil

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    Oh, SkyeChild (# 23):

    I once heard someone say that the only reason socialism failed in ALL THOSE OTHER COUNTRIES is because it wasn’t done “correctly.”

    They are still teaching exactly this. In a Sophmore-level macro-economics class. I was there.

    The younger generation learned nothing from WW ONE. Started by an anarchist. Or WW two, started by National Socialists. Or the Korean War, started by communists. Or the little unpleasantless in Vietnam, again, started by communists (and BTW, victory in which little unpleasantness was GIVEN AWAY by another Congress full of Dumbocraps, not as a Military Necessity, or National Needs, but in a TEMPER TANTRUM because they couldn’t put Nixon in Jail.) Or the first Gulf War, started by So Damn Insane.

    Ya see, the most important thing that these IDIOTS have forgoten is the definition of insanity: Doing the same thing over and over, expecting to get a different result.

    ====================

    Again, I say, the revolution comes. I look around, and I see a great divide. There is less and less each day in common.

    The day will come when the patience of one side or the other will run out. Three days later, the population of this nation will be back under 200 million. I really believe it will be within the next three - four years.

    Please understand, I AM NOT ADVOCATING THIS. I just no longer see any other way out.

    I go nowhere unarmed these days.

    Paranoia? Perhaps. But like I say, when the smoke clears, I intend to be standing, and I will be a slave to no man.

  48. LC FIAR Comment by LC FIAR

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    I have come to understand that there are two rights that not only are essential in and of themselves, but they also serve to protect the rest. First, we protect our freedom with the ability to speak out against injustice, and corruption, and to assemble in protest. That would be the First Amendment.

    If that fails, we have the ability to conduct armed revolt. That would be the Second Amendment. Is it any surprise to anyone that the Socialist Pig Vomit in the Demon-cancer party seek to destroy both?

  49. LC FIAR Comment by LC FIAR

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    OT, if any LC are looking to have some fun troll bashing, Redneck has an especially retarded troll that needs some cluebatting.

  50. LC Ranger 6 Comment by LC Ranger 6

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    Ya see, the most important thing that these IDIOTS have forgoten is the definition of insanity: Doing the same thing over and over, expecting to get a different result.

    Not forgotten, they think, due to thier insanity, that you are wrong in this definition.

    Insanity by any other name is still democrat.

    And Wil, as much as it scares me to admit it I’ve pegged it to 3 or 4 years as well before lead begins to fly inside our borders.

  51. LC Wil Comment by LC Wil

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    FIAR, there is, indeed, one other fundamental right that no one is capable of taking away, anytime, or under any circumstances, and that no one seems to recall:

    No matter what happens, who objects, or even in the face of Hell itself, no SOB can ever take away your right to say “NO, DAMNIT, I WON’T!”

    The ability to sy “NO”, mean it, and willingly face the consequences, is the root of all freedom that Man enjoys. Sometimes, being willing to tell the rest of the human race to go to hell, kiss my ass, bite me, and fuck off, matters more than anyone who is a subject can imagine.

  52. LC FIAR Comment by LC FIAR

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    I’ll ditto that LC Wil.

  53. Unregistered Comment by JonB

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    LC Wil: Yes, there is no other way out.

    As for “not advocating” it, I find it a stretch to see how advocating the extermination of those who are actively trying to overthrow this country to pull it into communism is any more of a crime than the libtards that have openly called for the assassination of our nations leaders.

  54. LC HJ Caveman82952 Comment by LC HJ Caveman82952

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    Funny…I’ve never heard Mike Savage or Rush on NPR. Isn’t that enough? Or perhaps because many people choose not to listen? Just ask Al Franken. You cannot make folks listen this this dreary left wing shit. I tried once, I really did. But even my gut, with the hundred of gallons of booze I’ve poured through it, the crappy food I digested, I couldn’t handle it. It will only piss us off. And reinforce our claim of socialism’s ultimate goals. And yes, it will ultimately come to armed conflict, I have no doubt. Think I may be in the market for some more .44 mags very soon……..

  55. LC Wil Comment by LC Wil

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    R-6, brother, when the dark night comes, I got yer back.

  56. LC FIAR Comment by LC FIAR

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    So when exactly do we begin voting with bullets instead of ballots. I just don’t want to be late for “election day.”

  57. LC HJ Caveman82952 Comment by LC HJ Caveman82952

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    I wish I knew, LC FIAR. The only folks I would trust are folks like the Rotties and the cops I have known personally.
    Personal friends. The cops cannot protect me, nor do I expect them to, but being friends they would not try to disarm me either. I’ve even been told that, being a vocal staunch supporter of the cops here. Yes, I believe conflict is coming…..and we would be on our own, perhaps small bands, or shall I say packs, protecting our own.

  58. LC Wil Comment by LC Wil

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    JonB:

    By “not advocating it”, I mean I do not actively promote the idea. I do not want to see the day. I do not want to see 1/3 of my country die. Nor, do I council anyone to hasten the day. It’s gonna happen. I just do not look forward to it.

    I cry for America. I would gladly give anything to enable this country to avoid what I see coming.

    But I will not live as a slave.

  59. LC Wil Comment by LC Wil

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    JonB, by “not advocating this,” I mean I do not look forward to the death of 1/3 of the country I love.

    Can’t see a way out, but I don’t WANT it. Stupidity brings it’s own final reward. I do not wish the idiots ill, I just plan to outlive them.

  60. jaybear Comment by jaybear

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    Off topic here, but worth it:

    One of the lefts biggest (literally) propagandists, michael moore, has challenged Fred Thompson to a debate. You gotta see Fred’s reply:

    Fred ‘08!!!

  61. Emperor Misha I Comment by Emperor Misha I

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    By “not advocating it”, I mean I do not actively promote the idea. I do not want to see the day. I do not want to see 1/3 of my country die. Nor, do I council anyone to hasten the day. It’s gonna happen. I just do not look forward to it.

    I cry for America. I would gladly give anything to enable this country to avoid what I see coming.

    But I will not live as a slave.

    Ditto here.

    And that, by the way, is the answer to the question “what’s the difference between the wannabe totalitarians and us?”

    We, or at least I, but I suspect strongly that I speak for the vast majority if not, indeed, everybody here, won’t start it. They, on the other hand, are quite willing to do so.

    I keep praying for a miracle, and it might just happen. The pendulum swings in mysterious ways, and it may just be that our beloved nation can avoid that most horrible of situations. G-d, I hope so.

    But if it happens, we won’t start it. We’ll just help make it stop and, G-d willing, be around to help clean up the mess afterwards.

    Slave to no man.

    That sums it up perfectly for me.

  62. LC HJ Caveman82952 Comment by LC HJ Caveman82952

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    I call one being Master…..and He was executed some two thousand years past….. I would definitely seek to avoid conflict, if I could. Not being a demonstrative sort, I must confess to having been quietly preparing for such an eventuality. Being a survivalist type, I have accumulated quite of lot of gear, rations and such here. My best friend of forty years knows where to come should unrest arrive here at home, our views identical. A lot of stuff here. No point listing it, but it is extensive and expensive. And getting bigger….as to why? The concept of a left wing yolk unbearable to me. I view them as inferior beings, hateful cowards and closet sadists. But why to fight? What makes life worth living? You have your answer….and I have mine.

  63. SoCalOilMan, LC Comment by SoCalOilMan, LC

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    When asked to appear on any of those “Right Wing” radio stations, 90% of the time they choose not to appear, stating they won’t want a “hostile environment” (actually explain why they take that stand). Yet to get on the tube, the Repub’s have to face Mathews, Couric et al.

    and we’ve always been at war with Eurasia.

    A quote from one of three books that changed and formed my look at politics, way…way back in HS. Animal Farm, 1984 and Brave New World.

    We, or at least I, but I suspect strongly that I speak for the vast majority if not, indeed, everybody here, won’t start it.

    At least for me, you do speak what I feel. If they desire to take away the rights actually guaranteed to me in the Constitution,”for my own good” they are going to have to physically take them. I want my son’s children to know that I at least tried to stop this apparent slide to socialism. I won’t shoot first, but they’d better make that first shot count.

  64. Unregistered Comment by fanbladesaresharp

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    SoCalOilMan

    I won’t shoot first, but they’d better make that first shot count.

    It’s coming to a head people. Sadly for everyone, this “head” is made up of all of us. We made the systems and we’re taking them down. Emporer Misha knows this all too well. History=repeat. Just change the country and it’s all the same thing.

    But, since America is my “motherland” (and my great great grandparents of Scottish and Danish immigrants) I’m going to die for it. America had given even the laziest of people the freedom of personal and financial freedoms if they choose to use them.

    I don’t know who is going to do it, but I most certainly will be killed trying to keep “them”, those that don’t think I need freedoms, the fuck off my lawn. So be it. I’ll die without guilt.

    And in all financial goodness that America, so far, has allowed me, I’m going to be thinking of you SoCal when I buy another 100 shares in my fav exploration company. The markets be good.

  65. Unregistered Comment by Sir George

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    Speaking of messages, here’s Fred Thompson responding to Michael Moore’s debate challenge, along with Fred’s response to Moore accusing him of liking Cuban cigars.

    Breitbart TV link

    Priceless.

  66. jaybear Comment by jaybear

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    By “not advocating it”, I mean I do not actively promote the idea. I do not want to see the day. I do not want to see 1/3 of my country die. Nor, do I council anyone to hasten the day. It’s gonna happen. I just do not look forward to it.

    God, I pray that it doesn’t come to that. There would be no glory in it, no just victory, no winner. The nation would be torn to shreds, I believe, balkanized into ideaological regions. We are in a very dangerous time right now, the jihadists propaganda war is all but won thanks to their stooges in our media. The shooting war cannot be won while our military is hamstrung by PC rules of engagement. The political battle cannot be won if our leaders govern by the opinion poll. If we are destined to fight a war of political ideaology for the soul of this nation, then we better make sure that the timing of it is perfect. Right now, is not the time…nor is 5 years from now. If we fracture any further, then we play right into the islamonazi plan….”A house divided against itself cannot stand“. If any political leader with any clarity of vision…On either side…could see this, we could turn it…we could still argue our differences, but we could do it in the spirit of FDR and the Congress of his day…Debate the issues but don’t forget who the enemy really is.

    What confuses me is why the other side doesn’t see the bigger picture. Sure, it’s fun to talk about BDS and liberalism is a disease etc etc…but does their hatred of Bush and us right wing nut jobs, and their commitment to a corrupted ideaology go so deep that they have forgotten who they are and where they are? They, Us, We, are Americans. Let the world hate us, they are hypocrites…we have an IMMIGRATION problem, we don’t have an EMIGRATION problem. People may carp about the problems in this country, but I sure as hell don’t see them leaving in droves do you? I see them standing in line to get in, from every corner of the world…I wonder why that is?….

    could it be something about the American Dream?

    I believe a civil war would burn that dream down, we would be what Europe was in the Middle Ages…reduced to a few strong states constantly fighting and re-conquering weaker states. Ripe for conquest by the mohammedans and their socialist puppets. The mohammedans prey on weakness, they promote it through their mouthpieces on cnn, they would pick off a fractured United States piece by piece. They can never conquer a UNITED States of America, no one can. As distasteful as it may be, we must remind those whom we call the enemy at home that they are Americans too, that the bullshit they pull over here would get them killed damn near anywhere else….and if they can’t buy into that, then they can just…….leave. Won’t break my heart at all, and a the bloodshed would be very minimal

  67. SoCalOilMan, LC Comment by SoCalOilMan, LC

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    jaybear sez:

    we have an IMMIGRATION problem, we don’t have an EMIGRATION problem.

    Ah, that we did. Just starting with all the ones that said that if “W” were elected they’d leave the country, a lot of the problem would be solved.

  68. Unregistered Comment by JonB

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    I see. I guess I’m just a warmonger or some other bizarre thing, because the Creator knows I’m praying for the opposite. I long for the day that the filth of this country that has destroyed morals, destroyed integrity, destroyed truth, destroyed values, destroyed the family, destroyed lives, is slaughtered and fed to the dogs. More so than that I long for that clown wanna-be-god shows up and signs that ****ing 7 year peace treaty with Israel. I’m sick of watching the satan worshipers (for they are nothing less) in this country prey upon those who do not know better. I’m sick of the arrogant, self righteous, amoral slag that is dragging down not only this country but the world.

    May the Lord Jesus Christ come soon, take his faithful with him and condem the rest to the eternal fires of hell where their pathetic, worthless, evil loving souls belong, slaughtering them like pigs with the mere words of His mouth from which pours true justice, true righteousness, and the authority to separate the wheat from the chaff and throw the chaff into the fire.

    … I guess that turned into a sermon, and perhaps it is clear where my heart really lies. Not in bringing destruction and death myself, but the hope of my own faith.

    I don’t care how it’s done. I just want justice for the righteous, and I want it as soon as possible.

  69. fmragtops Comment by fmragtops

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    People, let’s not forget, as we speculate about civil war, and the ruination of our enemies, there are nations more powerful than any cult of head-chopping pedophiles that would gladly “step-in” to end the civil war in the US. Nations like China, Russia, and the EU. Let’s also not forget that the UN would love to wield the money and military might of this nation more than they already do. A civil war would allow them the perfect opportunity. If it is true that there is no turning back from an armed conflict between the government and it’s people, then this nation is doomed. We will be governed by those very ideologies we hate. It will be either communists, socialists, or shari’a. The nation as we know it or want it will not rise form a civil war. Civil war will mean death, either by the hands of each other, or by the hands of our true enemies.

  70. Unregistered Comment by Lord Spatula I, King & Tyrant

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    If it is true that there is no turning back from an armed conflict between the government and it’s people, then this nation is doomed. We will be governed by those very ideologies we hate. It will be either communists, socialists, or shari’a. The nation as we know it or want it will not rise form a civil war. Civil war will mean death, either by the hands of each other, or by the hands of our true enemies.

    Hmmmm…dying on my feet or living on my knees…dying on my feet or living on my knees…

    Well, I know I’m  stumped. (/sarcasm)

    (No disrespect intended, fm.  It’s just that, if it does  come to war, it’ll be our enemies whom have chosen it.  I’d just as soon live in peace, but I will not  be a slave - to socialism, communism, jihadism or any other  -ism.  Period, end, stop.)

  71. fmragtops Comment by fmragtops

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    No disrespect intended here either Spats, all I’m sayin’ is if that’s the point at which we’ve arrived, then the nation is lost. It’s lost already whether you die on your feet or live on your knees. If you choose to die, everyone who hasn’t is still living on their knees. If everything y’all are saying is true, then we’ve already been check-mated.

    Maybe if all out civil war can be avoided for fifty or a hundred years, maybe we have a shot. If not, the EU, UN, and Commies will be waiting to subjugate all those who are left after we cast off the yoke of our US oppressors.

    I don’t know. The country has to fall sometime, I guess. Might as well go out in a blaze of glory.

    My point is that our problems go faaaaaaaaaaaaaaar beyond just what we see here, and saying “I’m ready to fight and die” is great and all, but then what? I’m not saying that the willingness to wage war against an oppressive US government is bad or wrong. I agree 100% with those of you who would prefer to die on your feet than live on your knees; I’m just saying then what.

  72. Unregistered Comment by CKO1986

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    Fairness is the last thing on Nancy Pelosi’s mind.

  73. Iacobus Comment by Iacobus

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    The decision to press for re-establishment of the Fairness Doctrine now seems to have developed for two reasons. “First, [Democrats] failed on the radio airwaves with Air America, no one wanted to listen,” says a senior adviser to Pelosi. “Conservative radio is a huge threat and political advantage for Republicans and we have had to find a way to limit it.”

    Pfft.

    Yeah, I got their Fairness Doctrine right fucking here. *holds up middle finger*

    It figures they would want to trample the Constitution to achieve a truly nefarious goal.

  74. Unregistered Comment by Special Ed

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    Guys, guys, guys. There will be no civil war. There will be no prolonged period of internal armed conflict.

    What percentage of Them are actually willing to risk Their oh-so-precious necks for Their ideology? I’d say that number approaches zero. How many of Us are? A helluva lot more.

    They would need to find someone to fight for Them. Who? The military and police sure wouldn’t. And who sympathetic to Their cause even has any credible weaponry? Whereas We are for the most part able to arm Our neighbors as well as Ourselves.

    These facts are not lost on Them. That’s why They are trying desperately to ban and confiscate guns. They have no fallback position. A single, derisive chorus of “NO”, accompanied by the music of chambering rounds will have Them backpedalling so fast that if the energy were harnessed, We could power Las Vegas for a week.

    That time will probably come. But a shooting war? Rhetoric makes for poor cover.

  75. Unregistered Comment by Infidel River Rat

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    Simply put, they’re jealous as hell, and like the kid in the back of the class that ALWAYS whines, they think it’s not fair, and want things no matter what they do. Doc Savage is right, Liberalism IS a mental disorder, and this is just further proof of it! People are SO turned off to their bullshit propaganda, but they want to force it down people’s throats, what’s next? a proposed Federal law to require folks to wear a Che Guevara T-shirt as much as they wear a Ronald Reagan shirt? The libs are NO different from the islamofascists I fought in the sandbox, they just don’t bugger livestock or behead in public, but they do perform character assasination on those who differ with them, fuckin’ INBREDS!