Strict Standards: Non-static method sem_admin_menu::init() should not be called statically in /home/misha/public_html/2007/wp-content/plugins/sem-admin-menu/sem-admin-menu.php on line 358

Strict Standards: call_user_func_array() expects parameter 1 to be a valid callback, non-static method sem_admin_menu::ob_add_menu() should not be called statically in /home/misha/public_html/2007/wp-includes/plugin.php on line 164

Warning: ob_start(): non-static method sem_admin_menu::ob_add_menu_callback() should not be called statically in /home/misha/public_html/2007/wp-content/plugins/sem-admin-menu/sem-admin-menu.php on line 86

Strict Standards: call_user_func_array() expects parameter 1 to be a valid callback, non-static method sem_admin_menu::kill_gzip() should not be called statically in /home/misha/public_html/2007/wp-includes/plugin.php on line 59
Anti-Idiotarian Rottweiler » That’s What Happens When You Eliminate Morals and Values From a Society
Strict Standards: call_user_func_array() expects parameter 1 to be a valid callback, non-static method emotions::add_css() should not be called statically in /home/misha/public_html/2007/wp-includes/plugin.php on line 164

Strict Standards: call_user_func_array() expects parameter 1 to be a valid callback, non-static method emotions::add_js() should not be called statically in /home/misha/public_html/2007/wp-includes/plugin.php on line 164
You are viewing the Archives for 2007.......If you want the current page, CLICK HERE.......

OK, His Majesty has decided that it’s time to piss off a lot of people, so why not go with it?

What set us off is this post by LC & IB Dan about the Jessie Davis murder that is now going to bore us all to death for weeks as real news are replaced with round-the-clock blather from the likes of Greta van Facelift. You see, Dan is right. He’s absolutely, positively, dead on right.

There is nothing about this crime that ought to surprise us. Crimes like these are the natural consequences of a society where anything goes as long as it feels good, “whatever gets you through the night” and “don’t you dare judge me.”

In all of the gushing talk about St. Jessie, nobody has yet asked the question: “How the fuck did you expect the life of somebody who had, knowingly, let herself get knocked up not once, but twice by a married man to turn out?”

Does her adulterous ways and piss-poor decision making in any way excuse what happened to her? Of course it doesn’t, and I hope and pray that Cutts, if he’s proven guilty, is kicked out of this world and straight to Hell, courtesy of the State. I’d like it even more if we could dispense with the niceties of “humane executions” and perform them in a fashion more befitting of the crime, but as long as he stops stealing oxygen, I’ll be content.

But I also will not shut up about the society and culture that led to that situation, a society where screwing around is not only accepted, it’s actively encouraged (turn on TV and watch any major “show” if you doubt me), where nobody is held to account for anything and where breaking up a family is more acceptable than daring to wag a finger at the home-wrecking slut in the first place.

And that’s just one symptom.

Nothing is sacred anymore, no actions are scorned and looked down upon, everything is a “valid life choice and nobody’s business” and our pre-teen children are being taught in school how to put on condoms, have anal sex and how to fist each other to orgasm.

Don’t give me any shit about how a crime like this horrid murder is a surprise to you. It was as predictable as a sunset, and it’s only going to get worse and worse until what used to be a moral nation has become a horror making the last days of the Roman Empire look like Sunday School.

It’s not your fault if you’re raped going down a back alley downtown in the middle of the night dressed only in a bikini, but let’s be honest here; you shouldn’t be fucking surprised either.

Thatisall.

184 Responses to “That’s What Happens When You Eliminate Morals and Values From a Society”
  1. Cheapshot911 Comment by Cheapshot911

    Strict Standards: call_user_func_array() expects parameter 1 to be a valid callback, non-static method emotions::filter_text() should not be called statically in /home/misha/public_html/2007/wp-includes/plugin.php on line 59

    Repeating the same mistakes, expecting different outcomes,,,that’s the definition for somethin’,,it’ll come to me..

  2. sig94 Comment by sig94

    Strict Standards: call_user_func_array() expects parameter 1 to be a valid callback, non-static method emotions::filter_text() should not be called statically in /home/misha/public_html/2007/wp-includes/plugin.php on line 59

    OhhhhhhhhhHHHHHHHHHHHH LORDY Misha!

    Don’t get me started!

  3. Emperor Misha I Comment by Emperor Misha I

    Strict Standards: call_user_func_array() expects parameter 1 to be a valid callback, non-static method emotions::filter_text() should not be called statically in /home/misha/public_html/2007/wp-includes/plugin.php on line 59

    OhhhhhhhhhHHHHHHHHHHHH LORDY Misha!

    Don’t get me started!

    Somehow I have a feeling that I would like it very much if you would. :)

  4. Unregistered Comment by allen29palms

    Strict Standards: call_user_func_array() expects parameter 1 to be a valid callback, non-static method emotions::filter_text() should not be called statically in /home/misha/public_html/2007/wp-includes/plugin.php on line 59

    The media is afraid to touch this because the Cop and his fellow perp are BLACK! Plain and simple! Get friggin real, ever since OJ (and a huge following of subsequent black murderers) where charged with subsequent Civil Rights Violations (Like for fucking example the Rodney King Cops where!)
    This set the stage for black-on-white violence by tacet approval!
    I guess it has to do with that BULLSHIT slavery payback issue, of which anyone remotely white is fair game!
    Just try and convince me otherwise!

  5. HarleyRace (Uber-douchebag) Comment by HarleyRace (Uber-douchebag)

    Strict Standards: call_user_func_array() expects parameter 1 to be a valid callback, non-static method emotions::filter_text() should not be called statically in /home/misha/public_html/2007/wp-includes/plugin.php on line 59

    Don’t give me any shit about how a crime like this horrid murder is a surprise to you. It was as predictable as a sunset, and it’s only going to get worse and worse until what used to be a moral nation has become a horror making the last days of the Roman Empire look like Sunday School.

    Translation - make miscenegation illegal again!

    Double-Whammy - racism won big again today! The Klan is alive and well!

  6. sig94 Comment by sig94

    Strict Standards: call_user_func_array() expects parameter 1 to be a valid callback, non-static method emotions::filter_text() should not be called statically in /home/misha/public_html/2007/wp-includes/plugin.php on line 59

    Too late; the rant launch sequence has been initiated.
    5…4…3…2…1…

    In the fifties someone did a study on the number of men that left their wives for another woman as compared to the number of women who left their husbands for another man. It was six to one. The numbers are now reversed.

    The sexual revolution started in my generation but the generations following have turned the 60’s free sex romp into All Sex All The Time Any Time Any Swinging Dick With Two Armpits And An Asshole Will do. Employed, stable males need not apply.

    I can’t tell you how many times I have had to intervene in the lives of women who can’t get it threw their thick heads that raising a houseful of bastards is not the way to a long, sucessful, fulfilling life. On the contrary, I have been around long enough to see these women end up on the medical examiner’s slab and see their children walking down the same path.

    I lost count of the bodies of young women who, having acquired a taste for the wild side, I have later photographed in various stages of undress, mutilation and decomposition. In this area of the state we have a truck load of young women missing over the last forty years, they have never been seen or heard of again unless a skeleton is dug up somewhere.

    Guess what? You don’t look good covered in designer maggots! You stink to high heaven when you’ve been stored in some pervert’s dumpster for a week and a half! No amount of Christian Dior or Yves Saint Laurent is going to rid the stench from my nostrils as I watch the medical examiner slice your chest open between your tits and fold them upside your ears like Satan’s Stereo Headphones.

    *flash*

    I wouldn’t want your mother to see this picture I just took of the doc yanking your lungs out and slinging them on the meat scale. Now your ribcage looks like a scooped out watermelon. Nice work kiddo. Where’d ya meet this loser again, honey?

    But you ain’t talking no more. You’re not screaming at your mother that you’ll damn well go where you damn well please and come home if the notion strikes you. You’re not telling your relatives and friends to mind their own damned business anymore. You’re not telling people not to judge you anymore either.

    The only thing you’re doing is leaking under the apartment door as your skin turned black and bloated and swelled until it burst out by your fingernails that you just had styled three days ago. But it’s been very hot in your apartment and three days is all it takes.

    And if he doesn’t kill you he takes a straight edge razor and slices you sideways across your ass so that that nasty yellow fatty ass tissue is hanging out as the ambulance pulls up. Now you can wipe yourself in every direction of the compass.

    Attracted to a guy who’s dangerous looking? You have absolutely no clue honey. Attracted to a party animal? The operative word, darling, is “animal.”

    Stay away from the losers!!!! Stay away from the bars!! Stay with your friends and try to stay sober when that useless stud is smooth talking you! Let these shitheads walk home with a Big Mac and a bag of fries rather than you draped over his arm!

    Meet a guy who works for a living rather than working you over!

    And keep your &%$& knees together! Get rid of the thong and buy Kevlar undies! At least know the name and address of the guy you’re hosing!

    It is so screwed up out there.

    I’ll be good now. Promise.

  7. Ten-Ten Comment by Ten-Ten

    Strict Standards: call_user_func_array() expects parameter 1 to be a valid callback, non-static method emotions::filter_text() should not be called statically in /home/misha/public_html/2007/wp-includes/plugin.php on line 59

    Any Swinging Dick With Two Armpits And An Asshole Will do.

    BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

  8. Emperor Misha I Comment by Emperor Misha I

    Strict Standards: call_user_func_array() expects parameter 1 to be a valid callback, non-static method emotions::filter_text() should not be called statically in /home/misha/public_html/2007/wp-includes/plugin.php on line 59

    Damn, Sig!

    Now I really need the applauding smiley!

    …and a cigarette!

  9. Ten-Ten Comment by Ten-Ten

    Strict Standards: call_user_func_array() expects parameter 1 to be a valid callback, non-static method emotions::filter_text() should not be called statically in /home/misha/public_html/2007/wp-includes/plugin.php on line 59

    mis·ceg·e·na·tion
    n.
    The interbreeding of different races or of persons of different racial backgrounds.
    Cohabitation, sexual relations, or marriage involving persons of different races.

    If that’s your translation, you’ve completely missed the point.

    But then, most socialist “Enlightened’ types always do.

  10. Deathknyte Comment by Deathknyte

    Strict Standards: call_user_func_array() expects parameter 1 to be a valid callback, non-static method emotions::filter_text() should not be called statically in /home/misha/public_html/2007/wp-includes/plugin.php on line 59

    The idiots who demand that we not follow traditional values now have what they deserve.

    Hope they like the bodycount.

  11. Emperor Misha I Comment by Emperor Misha I

    Strict Standards: call_user_func_array() expects parameter 1 to be a valid callback, non-static method emotions::filter_text() should not be called statically in /home/misha/public_html/2007/wp-includes/plugin.php on line 59

    Oh, and Sig?

    I should add that I did a short stint in forensics in my misguided youth, so allow me to add:

    Thanks for the memories! :shock:

    I didn’t need that lunch anyways.

  12. Unregistered Comment by allen29palms

    Strict Standards: call_user_func_array() expects parameter 1 to be a valid callback, non-static method emotions::filter_text() should not be called statically in /home/misha/public_html/2007/wp-includes/plugin.php on line 59

    As far as the touchy subject of inter-racial breeding (AKA Animal Husbandry). Again, ever seen what kids do to mixed-race kids? They are, IN-MOST-CASES, usually shunned by both parties, or have to be unusually extreme (behavior-wise) to be accepted by one or the other!
    WHY the fuck would you do this to a kid nowadays? Life’s hard enough without handicapping them from the get-go!!!

  13. Beth* A. Comment by Beth* A.

    Strict Standards: call_user_func_array() expects parameter 1 to be a valid callback, non-static method emotions::filter_text() should not be called statically in /home/misha/public_html/2007/wp-includes/plugin.php on line 59

    Sig94,
    What you wrote was starkly evocative - I can think of several teenage female family members who would benefit from such straight talk, early on. Harsh, yes, but realistic, and if it makes them safer…WELL worth it. Thank you.

    Ten-ten. re: #9, loved the backhand. ;-)

  14. Ten-Ten Comment by Ten-Ten

    Strict Standards: call_user_func_array() expects parameter 1 to be a valid callback, non-static method emotions::filter_text() should not be called statically in /home/misha/public_html/2007/wp-includes/plugin.php on line 59

    Ten-ten. re: #9, loved the backhand.

    Thanks Sweetie!

  15. sig94 Comment by sig94

    Strict Standards: call_user_func_array() expects parameter 1 to be a valid callback, non-static method emotions::filter_text() should not be called statically in /home/misha/public_html/2007/wp-includes/plugin.php on line 59

    Dang, I forgot how STD’s can scar a woman’s ovaries. I had an assignment to photograph the autopsy of a 22 year old prostitute. We were tracing the path of the .22 she got shot with when she went with her pimp to NYC. Seems like they had enough ho’s down there and told her so. The bullet path went through her liver and left a very distinct trail of damaged tissue that did not heal properly. But then again, how does a liver heal anyway?

    Her pimp strangled her when they got back into town and turned her into another Dumpster Patch Doll. The medical examiner dug the .22 out of her right breast during the post mortem. For some reason the NYC emergency room docs left the little slug inside her … seems like they didn’t care either.

    I knew her and her sister - they were both hookers. She made every wrong decision you could think of.

  16. Unregistered Comment by nerbygirl

    Strict Standards: call_user_func_array() expects parameter 1 to be a valid callback, non-static method emotions::filter_text() should not be called statically in /home/misha/public_html/2007/wp-includes/plugin.php on line 59

    Sig94 has it right. Women have got to stop acting like desperate sluts and show some self respect.
    Absolutely.

    With that said, I am a bit disturbed that the comments here seem to be blaming the victim for her own murder.
    She was obviously an idiot, but do you really think she deserved DEATH for her immorality?

    All I’m saying is, don’t forget the REAL whore who killed her.
    I dread having to listen to the rehashing of this story for the next two weeks.

  17. Unregistered Comment by leoni2

    Strict Standards: call_user_func_array() expects parameter 1 to be a valid callback, non-static method emotions::filter_text() should not be called statically in /home/misha/public_html/2007/wp-includes/plugin.php on line 59

    This might be OT, but I’m sure Mishi and the rest of you will love this. The Danes burned Mohammed in effigy last Saturday.

    http://gatesofvienna.blogspot.com/2007/06/update-on-burning-of-mohammed.html

    Man, but that took balls.

  18. Unregistered Comment by leoni2

    Strict Standards: call_user_func_array() expects parameter 1 to be a valid callback, non-static method emotions::filter_text() should not be called statically in /home/misha/public_html/2007/wp-includes/plugin.php on line 59

    Sorry, I meant Misha. Sorry about that Emperor.

  19. LC JackBoot IC/A-OBR Comment by LC JackBoot IC/A-OBR

    Strict Standards: call_user_func_array() expects parameter 1 to be a valid callback, non-static method emotions::filter_text() should not be called statically in /home/misha/public_html/2007/wp-includes/plugin.php on line 59

    Bravo Sig !!!!

    *WARNING, STRONG VISUAL/EMOTIONAL CONTENT TO FOLLOW*

    Been there and done that too a few times as well. The nightmares go away….eventually….maybe.

    How about beautiful young woman, perfect health, fit, and educated, gutted like a deer carcass, with genitalia mutilated beyond recognition?

    A young man hanging in the woods, having to be cut-down and waiting for the ME, noticing how the rotting corpse undulates grotesquely from the maggots?

    And I would add the ‘pleasure’ of knocking on the door at 3 a.m. to notify the next of kin, to the list of ‘Least Favorite Things’.

    But that’s OK, cuz they’re young, dumb and wanna party likes it’s 1999. Have another hit of Ecstasy or Ketamine, it’s all good right?

    Yet asshole trolls and the left keep up the buzz, the US is the only real evil in the world.

    Where’s the ‘Men In Black’ memory zapper when you need it?

  20. Deathknyte Comment by Deathknyte

    Strict Standards: call_user_func_array() expects parameter 1 to be a valid callback, non-static method emotions::filter_text() should not be called statically in /home/misha/public_html/2007/wp-includes/plugin.php on line 59

    She made every wrong decision you could think of.

    Every time you make a choice there is a price… the question is, are you willing to pay that price and do you know what it is really going to cost you?

    Nerby, her boyfriend deserves to be handed over to my brother for execution but it takes two to tango so she bears some of the reponsibility for her own demise.

  21. Unregistered Comment by nerbygirl

    Strict Standards: call_user_func_array() expects parameter 1 to be a valid callback, non-static method emotions::filter_text() should not be called statically in /home/misha/public_html/2007/wp-includes/plugin.php on line 59

    Deathknyte:

    So to your way of thinking, anyone who does something stupid, acts immorally, and sleeps with the wrong jerk deserves to DIE?
    Wow, when did you decide to join the Taliban?

    The guy who killed her was a police officer. Do you think she provoked him?
    Yeah, you’re probably right….the bitch and her bastard unborn deserved to die.
    Stupid c**t.

  22. AyUaxe Comment by AyUaxe

    Strict Standards: call_user_func_array() expects parameter 1 to be a valid callback, non-static method emotions::filter_text() should not be called statically in /home/misha/public_html/2007/wp-includes/plugin.php on line 59

    Amazing that some of the usual harbingers of degeneracy are actually shouting the same warnings–ever see the “reality” show, “Cheaters?” How about Dave Chappelle’s routine about how confusing it is when a woman dresses like a prostitute, but denies that she is one. He says something like, “How about I put on a police uniform? You run up screaming, ‘Officer help me help me?’ I say, just because I’m dressed like a cop don’t mean I am one!”

    I know what Sig94’s talking about, though I saw as little of it as I could when I was a persecutor (you can’t un-see those crime scenes and autopsies and forensic photos–big downside of a good memory).

    Race has nothing to do with this problem, it is all about a culture of promiscuity and consequent disregard and disrespect for human life. The scum that killed this woman, fool that she may have been, cared nothing for her, her children (perhaps his own children) and has no real regard even for himself.
    Though AA culture in the U.S. has been cultivated to sink to the lowest possible level of humanity by the nanny gummint, anyone can reach the bottom of animalistic depravity- -Koreans, Muslims, Waspy Bundys and Gaceys and many others. May God have mercy on the souls of the foolish, naive victims, may there be judgment on the evil perps, and may all of us have strength to stand up in the midst of the crowd for what is right.

  23. Emperor Misha I Comment by Emperor Misha I

    Strict Standards: call_user_func_array() expects parameter 1 to be a valid callback, non-static method emotions::filter_text() should not be called statically in /home/misha/public_html/2007/wp-includes/plugin.php on line 59

    With that said, I am a bit disturbed that the comments here seem to be blaming the victim for her own murder.
    She was obviously an idiot, but do you really think she deserved DEATH for her immorality?

    Absolutely not, and even though I tried to make it clear in the post itself, it can never be brought up too often: If you’re the victim of a crime, the sole responsibility for the criminal act itself rests with the perpetrator, and nobody else.

    My point isn’t that she “deserved” anything, even if she’d been 100 times more of an impulse-driven, instant gratification, think with her ovaries slut than she already was, she’d STILL not deserve to be murdered for it (Cutts’ wife might think differently about it and I, for one, can’t blame her, but that’s a different subject).

    My point IS that if you set yourself up for failure and tragedy, failure and tragedy is much much more likely to be what you end up with. There’s no way around the laws of probability, and having a “right” to behave in a certain way isn’t going to get you out of the morgue when you’re busy being dead.

    She wasn’t responsible for Cutts murdering her, that was HIS decision, but she WAS responsible of piss poor prior planning which, as we all know, increases the probability of a highly undesirable outcome.

    And right now, even as we speak, young girls and women are doing everything wrong that Jessie did, setting themselves up for exactly the same end, encouraged by an overly permissive society that would rather their daughters are raped and murdered than run the risk of being called “strict” and/or “judgmental.”

  24. Unregistered Comment by Rainy

    Strict Standards: call_user_func_array() expects parameter 1 to be a valid callback, non-static method emotions::filter_text() should not be called statically in /home/misha/public_html/2007/wp-includes/plugin.php on line 59

    What happened to true feminism? What is it with these women and girls that let some creep do anything to them? It really frightens me to see the abuse they accept. I thought we weren’t supposed to be defined by men anymore but these girls will do anything to get a guy.

    I have constantly taught my children what to expect from the opposite sex. I tell my daughter to look for someone who treats her with respect, who has manners, works hard at school and/or work, and is family-oriented. I tell my sons to look for someone who respects herself, treats them with respect, has manners, isn’t a slut, and works hard at school and/or work.

    So far, so good. My daughter is attracted to the smart, shy, nerdy guys, not the popular boys with more muscles than brains. My youngest son is at the age where it’s nice to look at “hot” girls, but girls are stupid and a pain in the butt. My eldest is a young adult and doesn’t tell me much anymore, but the girls I have met are pretty nice.

    We had a case here recently where a woman who worked for the police department blew away her lover’s wife, execution-style. The lover is a police officer, the murderess is/was married to a county sheriff deputy but had the police officer’s baby last year. Then we all found out that her husband, the sheriff deputy was having an affair with a county attorney. So the only innocent victims are the dead woman, her 9-year-old daughter who’s left without a mother, and a baby who’s mother killed his half-sister’s mother. What scum.

  25. jaybear Comment by jaybear

    Strict Standards: call_user_func_array() expects parameter 1 to be a valid callback, non-static method emotions::filter_text() should not be called statically in /home/misha/public_html/2007/wp-includes/plugin.php on line 59

    From the Emperor:

    And right now, even as we speak, young girls and women are doing everything wrong that Jessie did, setting themselves up for exactly the same end, encouraged by an overly permissive society that would rather their daughters are raped and murdered than run the risk of being called “strict” and/or “judgmental.”

    Yep, I see it every day in the high school. We have a girl who had her first child at 15…and is now pregnant with her 2nd, all before she is 17 years old. Do you know what happens to her in school? what she is taught about all of this? she is nurtured, told how cute her kids are and what a good mother she is. That’s all fine and well and I treat her kindly too, but one day I asked her a loaded question: does your daughter look like you or her father? she replied: “she doesn’t have a daddy”…..’nuff said, that baby who is having babies is one more casualty of the permissive anything goes culture born in the 60’s….thank you very much you degenerate bastards.

    rampant drug addiction
    rampant sexual disease
    rampant disregard for anything sacred like life or morals
    rampant unaccountability for ones own actions.

    That’s the legacy of the summer of love.

    and if I even mention the word abstinence in school? I could get fired. My heart breaks for the Jessie Davis’s of the world, talk about lost souls.

  26. Unregistered Comment by nerbygirl

    Strict Standards: call_user_func_array() expects parameter 1 to be a valid callback, non-static method emotions::filter_text() should not be called statically in /home/misha/public_html/2007/wp-includes/plugin.php on line 59

    Misha:
    I agree with you wholeheartedly. I hung out with my share of losers when I was young and stupid, but I woke up and grew up.

    I just feel that the comments are getting very close to saying “She deserved to die”, and that bothers me tremendously. Actions have consequences, but I don’t think that her actions deserved a death sentence.

    When I was a senior in college, I made the mistake of talking to a man who stopped his car to ask for directions. It was midnight, and I was on my way home from work.
    I was dragged into his car, beaten, raped and left in a wooded area–naked.

    To this day, some idiots still ask me what I was wearing that night.
    From the vibe I’m getting from the comments here, I guess I deserved what I got because I didn’t use good judgement.

    Let’s remember who the victim was. And if you don’t think the “slut” deserves any pity, then pity her child, who was weeks from being born, and her living son who is now left without a mother.

  27. chuck Comment by chuck

    Strict Standards: call_user_func_array() expects parameter 1 to be a valid callback, non-static method emotions::filter_text() should not be called statically in /home/misha/public_html/2007/wp-includes/plugin.php on line 59

    Nerbygirl,
    I think you are missing the point. We aren’t blaming the victim for her own murder. We are blaming the victim for the life style choices she made that led her to be in the position to be murdered. Our society has gone so far overboard avoiding saying anything bad about victims, people can’t learn from the mistakes they made. Only by honestly looking at what choices the victim made can others learn from the tragedy. We defend the “honor” of the victim to the point that there is no object lesson that can be learned from these cases.

  28. chuck Comment by chuck

    Strict Standards: call_user_func_array() expects parameter 1 to be a valid callback, non-static method emotions::filter_text() should not be called statically in /home/misha/public_html/2007/wp-includes/plugin.php on line 59

    Damn I am slow

  29. Lady Heather Comment by Lady Heather

    Strict Standards: call_user_func_array() expects parameter 1 to be a valid callback, non-static method emotions::filter_text() should not be called statically in /home/misha/public_html/2007/wp-includes/plugin.php on line 59

    That’s the legacy of the summer of love.

    Then how do we go about turning the tide, I wonder?

  30. AyUaxe Comment by AyUaxe

    Strict Standards: call_user_func_array() expects parameter 1 to be a valid callback, non-static method emotions::filter_text() should not be called statically in /home/misha/public_html/2007/wp-includes/plugin.php on line 59

    Nerbygirl, don’t think anyone is saying naive fools deserve to die, but that being a naive fool is objectively a substantial risk factor in particularly gruesome and tragic deaths. The foolish are fodder and practice for folks with all the misogyny of the Taliban X10 in their hearts and squirming, reptilian minds. So be prepared for the worst, teach your children and anyone else you see at risk. You don’t have to take responsibility for others, but if you can help, direct, goad others to take responsibility for themselves, to build some self-respect and assert some self-defense against the two-legged predators out there, you, we have done a good job.

    BTW, on minimal nasty racist sub-thread, while I don’t see this as a color issue at all, I will pass on a little wisdom from a very old black man who owned the laundromat I went to back when I was a n’er-do-well student–he told me it was good to have AA friends, but it wasn’t your AA friends you would have to watch out for–it was their black friends who’d F you up. “So just watch who you let in your house or who you let know what you got.” He also used to stop kids from making out in the laundromat, would have bible study with customers’ children while they were there–and they would actually sit there and listen to him. Amazing. Beautiful. Brother Elton was a very smart, good, and moral man, greatly missed. I suspect there are more than a few folks who haven’t ended up where Jessie or Cutts are because of him.

  31. Tom The Impaler Comment by Tom The Impaler

    Strict Standards: call_user_func_array() expects parameter 1 to be a valid callback, non-static method emotions::filter_text() should not be called statically in /home/misha/public_html/2007/wp-includes/plugin.php on line 59

    Does her adulterous ways and piss-poor decision making

    Sorry to nitpick but it should have been.

    Do her adulterous ways and piss-poor decision making

  32. Unregistered Comment by nerbygirl

    Strict Standards: call_user_func_array() expects parameter 1 to be a valid callback, non-static method emotions::filter_text() should not be called statically in /home/misha/public_html/2007/wp-includes/plugin.php on line 59

    Sorry, Chuck, I’m not buying it. Are you saying that just because she was having an affair with this guy(who already was the father of her living child) she should EXPECT to DIE?
    Hey, maybe she should expect a tougher life, since she would be raising two bastards alone, but you really think she should have expected to be murdered?

    Let’s just pile on the dead bitch. She deserved it!
    Hardly a mention of the whoring, murderer.
    You know what, I bet she MADE him have sex with her. Yeah, that’s it. The poor, sweet man was forced to have sex with her, and so his only resort was to kill her. That makes perfect sense.

    And by the way, I haven’t defended the victim’s “honor”. I’m defending her right to live, whether she’s an honorable person or not.

  33. Unregistered Comment by allen29palms

    Strict Standards: call_user_func_array() expects parameter 1 to be a valid callback, non-static method emotions::filter_text() should not be called statically in /home/misha/public_html/2007/wp-includes/plugin.php on line 59

    What I think folks are trying to say here is that many peeps nowadays put themselves in harms way. It seems that the same sense of self-preservation has gone the PC-way of common sense.
    I don’t venture into bad neighborhoods because self-preservation DICTATES otherwise.
    I don’t tease mean dogs ’cause common sense DICTATES otherwise!
    I don’t have to look down a gun barrel to know such acts can be self injurious!
    If one gambles against instinct, one has to realize the possible negative outcomes. And, acknowledge/accept the inherent dangers of acting contrary to self preservation.
    I believe this is a contributing factor in Darwinian selection…DUHHH!

  34. LC 0311 crunchie Comment by LC 0311 crunchie

    Strict Standards: call_user_func_array() expects parameter 1 to be a valid callback, non-static method emotions::filter_text() should not be called statically in /home/misha/public_html/2007/wp-includes/plugin.php on line 59

    Then how do we go about turning the tide, I wonder?

    One child at a time Lady H. We start with our own, but we call it with others when we see it and damn what anyone says about it.

    Then we ensure that our children are not exposed to the decayed cesspool that passes for pop culture.

  35. Cheapshot911 Comment by Cheapshot911

    Strict Standards: call_user_func_array() expects parameter 1 to be a valid callback, non-static method emotions::filter_text() should not be called statically in /home/misha/public_html/2007/wp-includes/plugin.php on line 59

    We’ve upended natural selection, replaced it with generosity for the infim. Only humans understand ethics.
    But still, Nature respects no fools.

    I believe this is a contributing factor in Darwinian selection

    “Success” in evolution is measured in the populations remaining.
    If we get eliminated as we go about defending and preserving their ability to procrate,, they win.

    *sigh*
    (drags butt down to spirit’s cellar)

  36. NevadaDailySteve Comment by NevadaDailySteve

    Strict Standards: call_user_func_array() expects parameter 1 to be a valid callback, non-static method emotions::filter_text() should not be called statically in /home/misha/public_html/2007/wp-includes/plugin.php on line 59

    One child at a time Lady H. We start with our own, but we call it with others when we see it and damn what anyone says about it.

    Then we ensure that our children are not exposed to the decayed cesspool that passes for pop culture.

    That’s the only way to work it. Well-meaning people often give lip service to “It takes a village” but back in the day (I’m 52) when I was a kid living in Kansas City, Kansas we could go pretty much anywhere in the neighborhood and our parents weren’t worried. Why? Because they knew the neighbors and knew the neighbors would let them know if I did anything untoward.

    We need to be more pro-active about protecting the youth of our family and friends. LC Crunchie has it right. Speak up. It might go in one ear and out the other but it might just be the wake-up call someone needs.

    Great subject Misha. And no, I don’t think you’re blaming the victim. Someone needs to tell potential victims how to avoid problems, not that many of them will listen.

  37. Fuzzhead Comment by Fuzzhead

    Strict Standards: call_user_func_array() expects parameter 1 to be a valid callback, non-static method emotions::filter_text() should not be called statically in /home/misha/public_html/2007/wp-includes/plugin.php on line 59

    Maybe she was absolutely, completely, hopelessly mentally retarded and didn’t have the common sense to know that a long string of absolutely, completely, hopelessly idiotic and dangerous choices will always end in tragedy.

    We shouldn’t be so hard on the mentally incompetent.

    I don’t create the heat that burns me, but I’m going going to get charred if I decide to sit my butt down in the middle of a fire, regardless of who started it.

    Did she “deserve” to die? (Whatever that means.)
    No, I suppose not.
    Were the consequences the natural, expected results of her long string of horrible choices?
    Absolutely.
    So, we’re not surprised.

  38. Lady Heather Comment by Lady Heather

    Strict Standards: call_user_func_array() expects parameter 1 to be a valid callback, non-static method emotions::filter_text() should not be called statically in /home/misha/public_html/2007/wp-includes/plugin.php on line 59

    It will be interesting to find out if she ever had to call the police on him due to domestic violence. If he even had a history of violence. And if so, did she decide not to press charges?

    Let the facts come out, and then I’ll make an opinion.

    Until then, yeah, she made terrible choices, but she didn’t deserve what she got. And this happens to women (and men) MARRIED, in the eyes of G-d, to people who turn out to be evil.

  39. Unregistered Comment by LC Wes, Imperial Mohel

    Strict Standards: call_user_func_array() expects parameter 1 to be a valid callback, non-static method emotions::filter_text() should not be called statically in /home/misha/public_html/2007/wp-includes/plugin.php on line 59

    The truly scary thing about the Jessie Davis story is that just about everybody involved in this sad, sordid tale is guilty of “horrible choices” in their lifestyles. According to various news reports I’ve seen, besides impregnating Davis twice Bobby Cutts also fathered children by at least two other women, and at the time of his arrest was embroiled in a transcontinental child custody dispute with one of his former paramours…an NFL cheerleader and wannabe actress with a colorful past of her own. Cutts also had, I’m given to understand, at least one domestic violence-related misdemeanor conviction, so it’s unclear to me how he was allowed to serve as a police officer or even legally own a gun.

    Cutts also was reportedly on the verge of being fired from his job as a police officer due to concerns about his character, and certainly would already be serving hard time had he been convicted of allowing his drug-dealing, felonious cousin to “borrow” his service weapon to enforce collection of a drug debt (Cutts managed to beat that rap). Not to mention the “friend” that Cutts allegedly enlisted in disposing of Jessie Davis’ body.

    Seriously, what were any of these people thinking? And how could this whole sorry saga possibly have had a good ending?

    Part of me is both horrified and disgusted by the whole spectacle, from the murder of a mother and her unborn child to the glee with which the tale has been obsessively covered by the 24/7 news media. The other part of me almost itches to write the inevitable true-crime book about the Jessie Davis case…because the soap-opera backstory of the case guarantees that the book would be a bestseller.

  40. psychochick Comment by psychochick

    Strict Standards: call_user_func_array() expects parameter 1 to be a valid callback, non-static method emotions::filter_text() should not be called statically in /home/misha/public_html/2007/wp-includes/plugin.php on line 59

    nerbygirl
    I”m so sorry for your experiences. I’m sure there are long-term effects, but hope they haven’t interfered with your life too much.

    I agree with you on the blame the victim issue.

    fuzzhead
    I’m sure you will be SHOCKED to know that I disagree with you.

    “hopelessly idiotic and dangerous choices”
    I guess the normal danger in an affair is having the spouse kill you. Having an affair is usually not such a dangerous thing and is not comparable to wandering around in a ghetto in the middle of the night. Lots of people have them and are fine! My judgement would be on a case by case basis.

    sometimes an affair is good:
    I remember this case of a Mormon who had molested this daughter. They wanted to know why, and it was because his wife didn’t give him enough sex. “Why didn’t you have an affair?” “That would have been immoral.”
    I think an having an affair is way lower on the heinous scale than sleeping with your kid.

    Christianity vs liberal
    Apparently, I’m an old school liberal and not like today’s totalitarian liberals. (I was also raised Christian and went through Sunday School and everything.) If liberalism is incompatible with Christianity, why are there so many liberal churches? Being nice to people and trying to help the poor is what some nuns do.
    Of course, people pick and choose from the Bible. Do you follow Christ’s testaments and treat your kids reasonably (which includes discipline) and try to help them if they are troubled? Or do you follow the Old Testament and kill them if they misbehave?

    psychological issues
    1) some slutty women have been raped and are acting out
    2) strippers tend to have been sexually molested as kids
    3) some women with violently abusive fathers are attracted to abusive men and try to relive the relationship with their father, hoping it will come out well
    4) women frequently marry men who treat them like their mothers did

    Now these are generalizations, and obviously some people transcend their backgrounds. (I broke no 4!) My point is that things are sometimes more complicated than just being due to bad parenting and media influence. (Although it does disturb me that young girls often seem so slutty.)

  41. Lady Heather Comment by Lady Heather

    Strict Standards: call_user_func_array() expects parameter 1 to be a valid callback, non-static method emotions::filter_text() should not be called statically in /home/misha/public_html/2007/wp-includes/plugin.php on line 59

    I can almost guarantee ya that this is going to a lot like the OJ trial. Remember that.

    And the victim herself will be on trial, not the man accused of murdering her.

  42. psychochick Comment by psychochick

    Strict Standards: call_user_func_array() expects parameter 1 to be a valid callback, non-static method emotions::filter_text() should not be called statically in /home/misha/public_html/2007/wp-includes/plugin.php on line 59

    Lady Heather
    I have this sinking feeling you are right. This case is treated with such salaciousness. It’s like they drool over the facts of the murder.

  43. Trooper THX1138 Comment by Trooper THX1138

    Strict Standards: call_user_func_array() expects parameter 1 to be a valid callback, non-static method emotions::filter_text() should not be called statically in /home/misha/public_html/2007/wp-includes/plugin.php on line 59

    No one deserves to be murdered. Walking into the worst part of a neighborhood, however, substantially increases the risks.

    So does sleeping around. (anyone remember “Looking for Mr. Goodbar? IIRC, it ends with the woman getting raped.)

    So does getting into relationships with people who, whether part of police or not, commit crimes.

    So, to repeat everyone’s point ONE MORE TIME: (this is for you, nerbygirl) We aren’t saying she deserved to die for her stupid choices. We ARE saying, however, that said stupid choices substantially increased her risk of ending up…well…how she ended up.

    And, slightly OT, just because you “feel” that something is wrong, does not make it objectively so. Believe it or not, ethics and morals are sciences, and have been since Hammurabi and Socrates. That means *gasp* there CAN be such a thing as objective right and wrong, and that, armed with a smattering of basic true premises and a rudimentary working logic system, one can, much more often than not, figure out the right thing to do in almost any set of conceivable circumstances. Remember, millions of people do it every day, lots of them in far worse circumstances than those in which we often find ourselves.

    OK, I’m done ranting now.

  44. Lady Heather Comment by Lady Heather

    Strict Standards: call_user_func_array() expects parameter 1 to be a valid callback, non-static method emotions::filter_text() should not be called statically in /home/misha/public_html/2007/wp-includes/plugin.php on line 59

    There isn’t only a lack of morals here, but a lack of justice in our society as well.

    Only witnessing how long it takes to execute death row inmates says it all, I think. Our so called “justice system” is a joke. And the criminals know it.

  45. chuck Comment by chuck

    Strict Standards: call_user_func_array() expects parameter 1 to be a valid callback, non-static method emotions::filter_text() should not be called statically in /home/misha/public_html/2007/wp-includes/plugin.php on line 59

    Nerbygirl,
    It isn’t a matter of whether she deserved it or not. It is a matter of whether by looking at the choices she made that led to this result may help someone else avoid the same fate.

    I take offense that you wqould think I believe she deserved what she got. The only one that deserves to die in this mess is the sick bastard who killed her.
    My problem is by ignoring her wrong decisions, we are refusing to learn from her mistakes and thus others who might be saved won’t be.

    When I was a senior in college, I made the mistake of talking to a man who stopped his car to ask for directions. It was midnight, and I was on my way home from work.
    I was dragged into his car, beaten, raped and left in a wooded area–naked.

    I don’t care what you were wearing that night. I would pay money to see the asshole that did that strung up by his testicles and slowly bled to death over several days.

  46. Unregistered Comment by caitlin

    Strict Standards: call_user_func_array() expects parameter 1 to be a valid callback, non-static method emotions::filter_text() should not be called statically in /home/misha/public_html/2007/wp-includes/plugin.php on line 59

    Dude, first thing I thought when the story broke was “whoa, the kids have the SAME father?!”
    I was shocked, personally. Sad.

  47. LC MoMinuteMan Comment by LC MoMinuteMan

    Strict Standards: call_user_func_array() expects parameter 1 to be a valid callback, non-static method emotions::filter_text() should not be called statically in /home/misha/public_html/2007/wp-includes/plugin.php on line 59

    Sig94, I have to second Misha’s “Thanks for the memories” sentiment. The ambulance companies I worked for in St. Louis and Memphis were contracted to the M.E.’s office for recoveries. I have seen damn near everything you put in your comment. Hell, I’ve eaten lunch in the morgue to the tune of a bone saw taking a skull cap off and the plop brains and organs into the scale pan more than once.

    And in damn near every case of foul play, it was piss poor decision making that led the vic to be in a position for someone else to commit their crimes. The only one I can remember that was just dumb bad luck was a kid snatched off of a corner on his way home from the bus stop by a bunch of punks that beat, tortured, raped and immolated him before shooting him in the head because they “…wanted to know what it was like to kill someone.”

    Every time I hear some know-it-all punk without the proper number of ass-whuppings under their belt give his/her folks a ration of shit, those are the first images that come to my mind.

    Then how do we go about turning the tide, I wonder?

    One child at a time Lady H. We start with our own, but we call it with others when we see it and damn what anyone says about it.

    We need to be more pro-active about protecting the youth of our family and friends.

    Crunch and NDS, you guys hit the nail on the head. When I made a new friend at school and wanted to go hang out at their place on the weekend, Dad would take me over there, meet their folks and if he approved of them, he’d tell them that if their son and I got into some shit they would whup his ass for to be sure to get my ass as well. And the feeling was mutual. I’ve had my ass whupped a couple of times by other parents and my parents tanned my friend’s hides a couple of times as well.

    If kids came with an instruction manual for proper raising, one of the first entries would be, “Whup that ass early and re-apply as needed.” If you wait ’til they reach that pre-teen/teen stage where they start to think they know everything and resort to ass whuppin’ outta desperation because that “My child and I are friends” bullshit ain’t working, it’s too late and will just make matters worse. If they are raised with the knowledge that bad decisions = “Bad Things”, they will be less inclined to make bad decisions.

  48. Unregistered Comment by greyrooster

    Strict Standards: call_user_func_array() expects parameter 1 to be a valid callback, non-static method emotions::filter_text() should not be called statically in /home/misha/public_html/2007/wp-includes/plugin.php on line 59

    Wonder what she did for a living besides having children out of wedlock and messing with another womans husband? She didn’t deserve to die but she wasn’t the saint the media is making her out to be. Her mother seems very angry at Cutts. Where was she before?

  49. sig94 Comment by sig94

    Strict Standards: call_user_func_array() expects parameter 1 to be a valid callback, non-static method emotions::filter_text() should not be called statically in /home/misha/public_html/2007/wp-includes/plugin.php on line 59

    The law does not address the issue of whether or not Jessie Davis deserved to die. It doesn’t have to. God does not go there either for both the penal law and God’s Commandments say “Thou shalt not…” No matter what she was doing the treatment she received at the hands of that pusbusket was unlawful.

    In more than one respect her life is like a car wreck. Some people walk away from a car wreck seemingly unscathed, some limp away with minor injuries, some must be carried off to the hospital. And others, well… break out the body bags and buckets cause we’re gonna be busy picking up the bigger pieces and hosing the rest down the storm drains… Ya gotta hose down the mess down else the crows and rats get to picking at it.

    It’s fate, kismet, God’s Will, whatever you want to call it. But her lifestyle seems to indicate that she was going at a high rate of speed in a 20 mph school zone with an unsafe, uninspected, unregistered vehicle and suddenly hit a tree.

    We can certainly feel sorry for her and her kids, her family *yawn* her aunts, uncles, nieces, cousins *stretch* and sundry acquaintances.

    But she shoulda been more careful like with kids in the car.

  50. JanetMae Comment by JanetMae

    Strict Standards: call_user_func_array() expects parameter 1 to be a valid callback, non-static method emotions::filter_text() should not be called statically in /home/misha/public_html/2007/wp-includes/plugin.php on line 59

    It will be interesting to find out if she ever had to call the police on him due to domestic violence. If he even had a history of violence. And if so, did she decide not to press charges?

    Let the facts come out, and then I’ll make an opinion.

    I’m with you, Heather. I know too damn many women who stayed in abusive relationships.

    She didn’t DESERVE to die. Nobody DESERVES to be murdered. There is an accountability issue for one’s choices, though, that has been well stated here.

    If I park my car in front of the 7-11, with the door unlocked and the motor running, to run in and get cigarettes, and someone steals it, was I asking for it? Damn right I was. Is the person who stole it still wrong? Damn right…but I made a stupid decision, and I put my car at risk, and so, yeah, I am responsible for it getting stolen.

    This victim was obviously no saint. She didn’t deserve to be murdered, but it sure looks like she made some bad choices. And if she was abused prior to the murder, and put up with it, she’s partly responsible for what happened to her.

  51. Fuzzhead Comment by Fuzzhead

    Strict Standards: call_user_func_array() expects parameter 1 to be a valid callback, non-static method emotions::filter_text() should not be called statically in /home/misha/public_html/2007/wp-includes/plugin.php on line 59

    PC:
    >I’m sure you will be SHOCKED to know that I disagree with you.

    What?!?! How, how can this be?! :)

    >I guess the normal danger in an affair is having the spouse kill you.

    There are all kinds of other tragedies that can happen. If you know any families that have been destroyed by an affair–which is the absolute worst form of betrayal–you’ll know that the ones that are killed are the lucky ones.

    >Having an affair is usually not such a dangerous thing and is not comparable to wandering around in a ghetto in the middle of the night.

    Not comparable except that only a complete idiot would do either. And that wandering around in a ghetto is unlikely to have consequences that are as far reaching and destructive as an affair.

    >Lots of people have them and are fine!

    Only if you mean “still alive.”

    >sometimes an affair is good…I think an having an affair is way lower on the heinous scale than sleeping with your kid.

    Just because having an affair isn’t as heinous as incest doesn’t mean that the affair is good. Evil may have degrees, but that doesn’t make the lesser of two evils good.

    >If liberalism is incompatible with Christianity, why are there so many liberal churches?

    Uh, because they’re using the buffet method…
    I could make murder compatible with Christianity if I decided to ignore everything in the Bible about not murdering. Thus, “liberal” churches.

    >Being nice to people and trying to help the poor is what some nuns do.

    But that’s not what modern American liberalism does. Stealing somebody’s money and giving it to people who have not earned it nor deserve it is not anything at all like individuals and private groups helping the poor of their own volition. That’s the big killer in liberalism: it’s only liberal with other people’s money.

    >Of course, people pick and choose from the Bible. Do you follow Christ’s testaments and treat your kids reasonably (which includes discipline) and try to help them if they are troubled? Or do you follow the Old Testament and kill them if they misbehave?

    A couple of problems on this one. First, the New Testament teaches that with Jesus’ death and resurrection, the Law of Moses was fulfilled, and is therefore no longer in force.

    Second, even if it were still in force, the idea that we kill our children if they misbehave is a misunderstanding of the intent and application of the Mosaic commandment. Naturally, it is clear that the Mosaic Law was very strict, but the most severe forms of punishment were reserved for those who consistently did things that were destructive to the society, refused to change, and for some reason persisted in afflicting the group with their misbehavior. Those people who chose a decadent lifestyle were perfectly free to go live with the idol worshipers that surrounded the people of Israel. (That’s a very simple, highly incomplete explanation, but there are lots of books out there that explain the Law of Moses, its meaning, and its application in ancient Israel.)

    >things are sometimes more complicated than just being due to bad parenting and media influence.

    I agree. Each individual has free agency, and the ability to choose, regardless of background, upbringing, or environment. Ultimately, the responsibility for one’s choices is 100% on that individual. (I’m speaking, of course, about people other than small children and the mentally incompetent.)

  52. Sir Guido Cabrone, LC, M.o.P. Comment by Sir Guido Cabrone, LC, M.o.P.

    Strict Standards: call_user_func_array() expects parameter 1 to be a valid callback, non-static method emotions::filter_text() should not be called statically in /home/misha/public_html/2007/wp-includes/plugin.php on line 59

    I know too damn many women who stayed in abusive relationships.

    And how many times, when you asked, “Why the fuck do you stay with that asshole?” or told her to “Get out, get away from him, stay away from him.” were you told:

    “But I know he loves me!”

    “Who’ll take care of me and the kids?”

    “But I love him so much!”

    “He’s just moody sometimes…” (While applying base with a trowel and wearing a long sleeved shirt to hide the bruises.)

    “He’s such a good daddy!” (While trying to stop the three year from screaming from the pain of the cigarette burns on his hand.)

    “He and his wife are separated and as soon as the divorce is final, we’re getting married!”

    No, Jesse Davis did not “deserve” to die. But, here’s a news flash: If he, (or she), is still married, (Forget this separation bullshit, married is married, period.) Don’t be fucking around with him! No matter what the fuck you get told in little sweet nothings in your ear about how much he loves you, or getting married on a trip to Vegas “someday when I’m free”, it’s all bullshit if he’s still married to someone else!

    If he beats you, get the fuck away from him and stay there! Take the kids, take your shit, and GO!

  53. Spartan24 Comment by Spartan24

    Strict Standards: call_user_func_array() expects parameter 1 to be a valid callback, non-static method emotions::filter_text() should not be called statically in /home/misha/public_html/2007/wp-includes/plugin.php on line 59

    I figured it was the b/f from the start. He just looked like the kind of guy who would do this sort of thing. I knew guys like this when I was in college and on various jobs, 2 exwives with 2 kids each and an exgirlfriend with a child. I had a date with a dude that told me about his exes and how many kids he had, I told him to not let the door hit him on the way out. Too many young women think sex=love and run for the hot guy with the fast car and more muscles than brains. It is sad but they will end up dumped, more than likely with a kid or STD.

    PC– you are right, there are quite a few liberal churches out there and I have alot of respect for the “classical liberals” like Tammy Bruce.

  54. Sir Guido Cabrone, LC, M.o.P. Comment by Sir Guido Cabrone, LC, M.o.P.

    Strict Standards: call_user_func_array() expects parameter 1 to be a valid callback, non-static method emotions::filter_text() should not be called statically in /home/misha/public_html/2007/wp-includes/plugin.php on line 59

    I hit the post button too fast that time.

    I guess what I am trying to say is that if someone doesn’t give enough of a shit about you to take care of you, you really don’t want to be in that situation.

    Now, when I was younger, I had what are today called fuck buddies. There were women I knew that I hung out with, ran around, went to concerts, had sex with. It was all a matter of good times, and nothing more. We weren’t looking to get married, settle down, any of that. There are those who would disapprove of the situation, I really don’t care, myself.

    But, and this was the big thing about it. We did everything possible to avoid things like, oh, pregnancy, for instance. (In at least two cases, pregnancies did happen, and the last I knew, they were still happily married, and had more rug rats running around. Cool.)

    The stupid part of this particular case, from my point of view, is that she was having babies with this guy, with no apparent expectation that he would be around to take care of the kids in the future.

  55. psychochick Comment by psychochick

    Strict Standards: call_user_func_array() expects parameter 1 to be a valid callback, non-static method emotions::filter_text() should not be called statically in /home/misha/public_html/2007/wp-includes/plugin.php on line 59

    fuzzhead
    Thanks for the enlightenment on the Old Testament. I’m a little weak there.

    “If you know any families that have been destroyed by an affair”
    I didn’t go into this, but my husband’s Christian first wife was having an affair and left him, taking his little boy and making it difficult for him to see his son. It was devastating to him. She moved one time and didn’t give him the address, so he couldn’t send presents–wonderful woman.

    I also knew one affair that worked out very well, and left one of the parties extremely happy and in a long-term relationship.

    I would not say affairs are great, but to me the degree of evil varies with the case.

    Guido
    This is going to make me sound extreme, but for some women, a factor is that the shelters don’t accept pets. A lot of women are worried about their pets/livestock. One woman had her cat sent to her in pieces, while another got a tape of her dog being tortured. Rhode Island has started having restraining orders that include pets. Boy, if there were a program to board pets for women in those situations, I would do it in a flash.

  56. Sir Guido Cabrone, LC, M.o.P. Comment by Sir Guido Cabrone, LC, M.o.P.

    Strict Standards: call_user_func_array() expects parameter 1 to be a valid callback, non-static method emotions::filter_text() should not be called statically in /home/misha/public_html/2007/wp-includes/plugin.php on line 59

    In some heartwarming legal news.

    Roy Pierson loses lawsuit against dry cleaners. Is ordered to pay defendants legal bills.

  57. LC NCLivingBrit Comment by LC NCLivingBrit

    Strict Standards: call_user_func_array() expects parameter 1 to be a valid callback, non-static method emotions::filter_text() should not be called statically in /home/misha/public_html/2007/wp-includes/plugin.php on line 59

    Let’s just pile on the dead bitch. She deserved it!

    Hardly a mention of the whoring, murderer.

    Chances are I’d have voted for a bullet for them both. These sort of vermin are why our society is turning into a cesspool. We let these amoral morons outbreed us by the dozen then provide for their mewling offspring so they too can spew forth another pointless, senseless, thoughtless tide before they’re out of their wasted and taxpayer funded education that barely 10 percent of them will have any respect for.

    We’re doing nothing but drowning ourselves in those who do nothing to better society one jot and patting ourselves on the back for our “caring and reasonable society”. There’s a reason they used to shun the adulterer and the unwed mother and that reason is that they are the symptom and agent for decay. I’m about as irreligious a man as you might find, but I’m wondering if we need a little of that Ol’ Time Religion to stem this moral rot.

  58. Sir Guido Cabrone, LC, M.o.P. Comment by Sir Guido Cabrone, LC, M.o.P.

    Strict Standards: call_user_func_array() expects parameter 1 to be a valid callback, non-static method emotions::filter_text() should not be called statically in /home/misha/public_html/2007/wp-includes/plugin.php on line 59

    psychochick

    a factor is that the shelters don’t accept pets. A lot of women are worried about their pets/livestock.

    I am aware of this, I smuggled one friend’s cats into my apartment and kept them for three weeks until she could arrange to go and stay with relatives in another part of the state. Then I drove out there with them so she could have them with her.

    One woman had her cat sent to her in pieces, while another got a tape of her dog being tortured.

    People that torture animals need a taste of their own medicine. Of course, being the nice guy that I am, I’d settle for running a rusty one-and-one-half-inch spade bit in a 7.2V cordless drill through their kneecaps.

    From behind.

  59. Unregistered Comment by nerbygirl

    Strict Standards: call_user_func_array() expects parameter 1 to be a valid callback, non-static method emotions::filter_text() should not be called statically in /home/misha/public_html/2007/wp-includes/plugin.php on line 59

    I am so disturbed by all of the comments.
    No one is focusing on the killer, but instead, the victim.
    She was killed in her own home. Her son witnessed it. The “cop” had multiple affairs, was about to be fired(almost impossible with Unions), and you all seem to blame HER???
    Where was HIS morality?

    He was the whore who had an affair on his wife. He chose to fuck multiple partners on his wife. The dead woman apparently fell for his bullshit(like all of his other “lovers” did).
    Do any of you men out there think that the MAN could possibly be the WHORE, THE IMMORAL BASTARD, THE DEVIANT?
    Nope. As usual, it’s all our fault.
    She deserved it, damn it.
    Let’s string her up!!!!!!
    Oh, sorry, she and her baby are dead. And her two year old son is alone, without a mother.

    Wow, I am shocked by the “pile-on” of this woman.
    The only comment that I got referring to my rape came from a woman.
    Why am I not surprised.
    Ladies, we are to blame for EVERYTHING. Don’t you know that by now?

    How sad. I thought that this was a more advanced crowd.
    Apparently, if you are a person who makes a wrong choice in your relationship, you should EXPECT to die.
    Bitch deserved it.

  60. jaybear Comment by jaybear

    Strict Standards: call_user_func_array() expects parameter 1 to be a valid callback, non-static method emotions::filter_text() should not be called statically in /home/misha/public_html/2007/wp-includes/plugin.php on line 59

    Sig94 sez in post number 6…..

    EVERYTHING!!!,

    jeeezus man…that is the way to hammer the point home. I just sat here open mouthed at what you wrote, hits me right between the eyes with everything I’m going through with my son right now…bad decisions, not listening to those who have walked that dangerous road etc etc….

    that has to be the most powerful writing I’ve seen in a long time, and damned timely in a very personal way. If it doesn’t make an impression on my son, it sure as hell made one on me Sig

  61. Unregistered Comment by Lord Spatula I, King & Tyrant

    Strict Standards: call_user_func_array() expects parameter 1 to be a valid callback, non-static method emotions::filter_text() should not be called statically in /home/misha/public_html/2007/wp-includes/plugin.php on line 59

    Nerbygirl, et. al.:

    The simple fact of the matter is this:  Each party involved in this sordid affair either has reaped, or will reap, that which they have sowed.

    Cutts is now in jail, where he will very likely spend the rest of his days, however many those turn out to be.  It would please me no end if those days were shortened to, say, the next 2 hours - but as long as his end comes sooner rather than later, that’s just fine with me.  (Assuming, of course, that he’s found guilty and the whiny anti-death-penalty fucks don’t gain any more of a societal toehold than they already have.)

    Now to the girl.

    Actions have consequences.  We seem to have somehow forgotten that.  We want to touch the hot stove without getting burned.  We want to eat the five cherry sweet rolls for breakfast, the triple-triple-cheese burger, jumbo fries and chocolate malt laden with Oreo© and Butterfinger© and Cthulu-knows-what-else, then the quad-layer, double-sauce lasagna for dinner, then we get pissed off when suddenly the 501s don’t quite fit anymore.  And we want to fuck Whomever The Hell We Please™ without anyone else either getting their knickers in a wad, their feelings torched or raising the slightest stink about it.  Then we wring our hands in angst and take umbrage at the archaic notion that The World.  Doesn’t.  Play.  Nice.

    Frankly, that shit like this doesn’t happen more  often is a major shock.  (And people say there’s no God.  How bad do you think it would be if God truly  didn’t exist?)

    Wow, when did you decide to join the Taliban?

    Wow, Nerby, when did you decide to join NOW?

    Works two ways, y’know.

    And before you start castigating me for being an unfeeling bastard, Nerby - here, have a bombshell.

    My 15-year-old stepdaughter soon-to-be-adopted daughter is pregnant.

    (SIDE NOTE TO MISHA:  Yeah, by that piece of pond scum you saw at the wedding/reception.  Now you know why I didn’t want him there.)

    She wants an abortion.  Says she’s being “responsible”.  I told both of them that their chance at “responsibility” ended when his dick went in her p(damned WordPress filters)ussy.  Told both of them that there wasn’t going to be an abortion.  (And he’s a house acquisition away from being told to get his ass lost.)  I said that making one mistake was not a sufficient reason to commit another.

    So I think I speak with a tad bit of authority here.  You reap what you sow.  You hang out in troughs, you’re going to smell like hogs.

    Now if you’ll excuse me, I have this overwhelming urge to go kill some paper.

  62. psychochick Comment by psychochick

    Strict Standards: call_user_func_array() expects parameter 1 to be a valid callback, non-static method emotions::filter_text() should not be called statically in /home/misha/public_html/2007/wp-includes/plugin.php on line 59

    LivingBrit
    What is your problem? I’m sure it’s more difficult to be raised by a single parent, but many of the kids turn out to be productive members of society. Having a couple of kids is hardly the end of civilization as we know it. Although, this kid will probably have a hard time of it.

    Guido
    Those 2 teenagers in Georgia that tortured a puppy and then baked it alive in a hot oven got 10 years in jail! They are starting to treat brutal pet killings more seriously. They used to be treated like a parking offense, and now people have gotten jail time for beating dogs and cats to death. This guy in Phoenix just got 90 days in jail for coating a puppy in oil and feeding it to his boa constrictor.

  63. jaybear Comment by jaybear

    Strict Standards: call_user_func_array() expects parameter 1 to be a valid callback, non-static method emotions::filter_text() should not be called statically in /home/misha/public_html/2007/wp-includes/plugin.php on line 59

    nerbygirl sez:

    Bitch deserved it.

    no she didn’t Nerby, and more than one of us have said that…you’re not listening my friend.

    What that poor girl DID do is to get closer to that fate…and invite it, by her bad behavior and actions….that’s what we are saying. There’s no way that she deserved it, her killer deserves to be burned to death….slowly.

    I hope you are healing from your own tragedy, I wish you well.

  64. Spartan24 Comment by Spartan24

    Strict Standards: call_user_func_array() expects parameter 1 to be a valid callback, non-static method emotions::filter_text() should not be called statically in /home/misha/public_html/2007/wp-includes/plugin.php on line 59

    I understand the post about abusive women staying in relationships. I stayed with my ex for about 2 years longer than I should have. I partially blame my grandmother’s harsh teaching about divorce for part of this as well as their younger son moving home with them about a year and a half into the marriage. I should have filed for divorce after the first year when the asshole went home to the Middle East and I got one letter and one phone call in 2 months. I thought that he was just busy seeing his sick father and would treat me better when he got home. No dice. If I had left when I should have, I would have been able to get back on my feet quicker. By the time I was considering leaving much more seriously, my uncle had moved back home and was so upset with me for marrying my ex that he barely spoke to me. Now we get along great. He wanted to beat Mohammed to a pulp and throw him in the dumpster where he belonged after Mohammed ruined my car but my grandfather talked him out of it. I really think that if I had stayed he would have killed me at some point, he would have actually murdered me or the stress would have caused me some sort of illness. One time after he went to an Islamic conference he actually choked me to near unconciousness while he was playing a tape of some Palestinian singing group. I am sorry about bringing up the Islamic issue but I just wanted to help others understand the difficulties leaving an abusive spouse, even without children. I could not imagine leaving with children. I was hardly allowed money so I would have had to find somewhere to stay while I saved the money for first and last months rent as well as a depost.

  65. Sir Guido Cabrone, LC, M.o.P. Comment by Sir Guido Cabrone, LC, M.o.P.

    Strict Standards: call_user_func_array() expects parameter 1 to be a valid callback, non-static method emotions::filter_text() should not be called statically in /home/misha/public_html/2007/wp-includes/plugin.php on line 59

    nerbygirl

    Hell, string the bastard up and use him for ballistic test media, as far as I am concerned.

    But she was the one that kept having a relationship with him.

    If some guy persists in juggling running chainsaws, I’m not going to have much sympathy for him when he grabs the wrong end.

    No, she didn’t deserve to die. But she made the CHOICE to stay in that relationship. It wasn’t like she met Ted Bundy in a parking lot and got whacked over the head with a tire iron. She carried on a long term relationship with him. And made no apparent attempt to get away from him. And didn’t have the presence of mind to stick a knife or a bullet in the dopey bastard when he attacked her. If she HAD done that, we would still think she was an idiot, but at least she would have a cheering section.

  66. Sir Guido Cabrone, LC, M.o.P. Comment by Sir Guido Cabrone, LC, M.o.P.

    Strict Standards: call_user_func_array() expects parameter 1 to be a valid callback, non-static method emotions::filter_text() should not be called statically in /home/misha/public_html/2007/wp-includes/plugin.php on line 59

    I was hardly allowed money so I would have had to find somewhere to stay while I saved the money for first and last months rent as well as a depost.

    We’ve got a couch you could have crashed on. It’s been used for that before, and probably will be again. (Of course, the kitties would LOVE to have somebody knew to run around on…) :lol:

  67. Spartan24 Comment by Spartan24

    Strict Standards: call_user_func_array() expects parameter 1 to be a valid callback, non-static method emotions::filter_text() should not be called statically in /home/misha/public_html/2007/wp-includes/plugin.php on line 59

    Nerbygirl, I am terriby sorry about what you went through. Nobody deserves to be raped no matter what she is wearing. A very wise person told me a few years ago that there was a difference between “asking for it” and “deserving it” whatever “it” might be. A woman wearing skimpy clothing and walking through a bad part of town at midnight is asking for some sort of trouble. She does not deserve anything horrible to happen to her and if it does the bastard who did it needs to be prosecuited to the fullest extent of the law. Back to the present murder case: Jesse Davis knew she was dating a married man yet she continued to see him and have babies with him. She was asking for trouble, whether it be a long battle for child support, stalking from an upset wife or being part of some skanky man’s “harem”. Did she deserve to die a horrible death with her innocent unborn baby? Not on your life.

  68. sig94 Comment by sig94

    Strict Standards: call_user_func_array() expects parameter 1 to be a valid callback, non-static method emotions::filter_text() should not be called statically in /home/misha/public_html/2007/wp-includes/plugin.php on line 59

    Psychochick sez:

    Those 2 teenagers in Georgia that tortured a puppy and then baked it alive in a hot oven got 10 years in jail! They are starting to treat brutal pet killings more seriously. They used to be treated like a parking offense

    I really don’t give a rat’s ass about kitties and puppies and that shit. You should treat your animals well but to send a guy to the big house jail for ten years for offing a pootchie when some sick mutha**er only gets a dime for offing a child is pure, utter liberal horse hockey… That same frigging judge will give only three years to a rapist so can the doggie bow wow bullshit. The only reason WHY they should be going after poochie punchers is that these sick bastards START with poochies and kitties and graduate to humans. Dahlmer started out torturing small animals… All this animal rights BS is nothing but a guilt trip so you feel better about the slaughter of the truly innocent in their mother’s wombs.

  69. Spartan24 Comment by Spartan24

    Strict Standards: call_user_func_array() expects parameter 1 to be a valid callback, non-static method emotions::filter_text() should not be called statically in /home/misha/public_html/2007/wp-includes/plugin.php on line 59

    I was finally able to leave when Mobastard decided to go to the Middle East again and gave me my portion of the tax refund to get an apartment. Almost as soon as he was gone I drained the bank account and filed for divorce. I realized I liked to be able to come home to peace and quiet instead of mindless abuse.

  70. Sir Guido Cabrone, LC, M.o.P. Comment by Sir Guido Cabrone, LC, M.o.P.

    Strict Standards: call_user_func_array() expects parameter 1 to be a valid callback, non-static method emotions::filter_text() should not be called statically in /home/misha/public_html/2007/wp-includes/plugin.php on line 59

    Spartan24 I know it’s not always that easy. But when it’s a choice between cutting and running, and getting strangled some dark night, well…

  71. psychochick Comment by psychochick

    Strict Standards: call_user_func_array() expects parameter 1 to be a valid callback, non-static method emotions::filter_text() should not be called statically in /home/misha/public_html/2007/wp-includes/plugin.php on line 59

    Spat
    Will you make her raise it, or will it be adopted out? If she keeps it, hopefully that hormone that bonds mothers to their new babies will kick in. I hate to be judgemental about your life, but you have no problem being judgemental about other people. If she loves the child, great. If she doesn’t, how do you think that child will feel being raised by a mother who resents it? I spent my childhood wishing I had never been born, and I wouldn’t wish that on anyone else.

    nerbygirl
    I agree completely with your opinions, although I would phrase them differently. This thread is probably the hardest on you, given your traumatic experiences. If you ever want to talk: tetrodotoxin2 yahoo

  72. Sir Guido Cabrone, LC, M.o.P. Comment by Sir Guido Cabrone, LC, M.o.P.

    Strict Standards: call_user_func_array() expects parameter 1 to be a valid callback, non-static method emotions::filter_text() should not be called statically in /home/misha/public_html/2007/wp-includes/plugin.php on line 59

    The only reason WHY they should be going after poochie punchers is that these sick bastards START with poochies and kitties and graduate to humans. Dahlmer started out torturing small animals…

    Which is the sole reason to go after them. Catch the sick fucks at the beginning.

    As far as killing humans goes… (deliberate killing, that is), Hang ‘em.

    And Dahmer wasn’t the only one. Far from the only one.

  73. Spartan24 Comment by Spartan24

    Strict Standards: call_user_func_array() expects parameter 1 to be a valid callback, non-static method emotions::filter_text() should not be called statically in /home/misha/public_html/2007/wp-includes/plugin.php on line 59

    I hear you, I thought that I deserved his treatment because.. well that is what abused wives do.

  74. Emperor Misha I Comment by Emperor Misha I

    Strict Standards: call_user_func_array() expects parameter 1 to be a valid callback, non-static method emotions::filter_text() should not be called statically in /home/misha/public_html/2007/wp-includes/plugin.php on line 59

    I am so disturbed by all of the comments.
    No one is focusing on the killer, but instead, the victim.

    The killer? I don’t feel the slightest for him, so I’d rather not waste time being concerned about his plight. I just want to see him roast in Hell. There is nothing to be learned from that sack of shit, and it would be all for the best if he’d just get executed and forgotten as quickly as possible. He’s below cockroaches to me.

    If there’s any focus on the victim here it’s not because she “deserved it.” If I got the notion that anybody thought that way, I’d be going into Full Misha Mode™ in a heartbeat, and I much suspect that everybody would notice if that were to happen.

    She didn’t “deserve it” in any way and, what’s worse, nor did her innocent little boy who is now without a mother. It’s horrible.

    So we can either sit down and say “that’s horrible”, or we can do a “lessons learned” session which, if nothing else, at least might serve to help others like her to avoid setting themselves up for tragedy by offering their throats to a scummy predator. Of course, in order for such a session to work, one has to embrace the facts, even the most unpleasant of them.

    OK, let’s talk about something other than Jessie for a second. Something different, yet absolutely the same:

    Let’s say that one of my friends has this thing about walking around perilously close to the edge of the roofs of highrises. One day some asshole who doesn’t like him passes by and sees it and takes the golden opportunity to give him a little nudge.

    Now, am I blaming my friend for pointing out afterwards that maybe NOT wandering around on the edge of tall buildings might have kept him from finding himself smeared over several square feet of pavement? Am I saying that it was “all his own damn fault” and that the guy who nudged him had nothing to do with it?

    Of course I’m not. The creep who pushed him will get his, hopefully a trip to a gurney and an encounter with a needle, and it will always be HIM that nudged my buddy off the roof.

    But I will forever point out to my surviving friends and anybody who cares to listen that walking around the edge of roofs of tall buildings with assholes passing by isn’t a very smart idea and that, no matter how much it isn’t your FAULT if somebody pushes you over, you’ll still be very dead, and needlessly so.

    He was the whore who had an affair on his wife. He chose to fuck multiple partners on his wife.

    He was all that TOO, but let’s not forget that he wasn’t fucking a hole that he’d drilled in the wall of his garage. It’s not like he was hanging around her house, knocking her over the head with a 2×4 and knocking her up when unconscious whenever he felt like it.

    There are TWO whores in this story. One male, and one female.

    The dead woman apparently fell for his bullshit(like all of his other “lovers” did).
    Do any of you men out there think that the MAN could possibly be the WHORE, THE IMMORAL BASTARD, THE DEVIANT?

    See? Now you’re ignoring the female slut and blaming it all on the male slut. That’s no different from what you’re saying that some people here are doing, it’s just the other way around.

    There are TWO guilty parties in this. The major difference being that one of them is now a murderer as well, and hopefully the bastard will be sentenced to death. Other than that, they’re completely identical.

  75. Fuzzhead Comment by Fuzzhead

    Strict Standards: call_user_func_array() expects parameter 1 to be a valid callback, non-static method emotions::filter_text() should not be called statically in /home/misha/public_html/2007/wp-includes/plugin.php on line 59

    Nerby isn’t listening to anything that anybody is really saying, because she’s too emotionally involved in this. And unfortunately, when people get emotional, reason, clear thinking, and focus shut down.

    We’re all sorry for her horrible experience, but we’re talking apples and oranges here. Nobody is letting the killer off the hook. It’s a given that we would have liked to be there to give him higher mineral content. Everybody knows that he’s a vile beast. Little–if any–discussion is needed there. The problem is that in our society there is an atmosphere of irresponsibility, of expecting that 1+1 will not equal 2, of making stupid, destructive choices, and being shocked when things turn out horribly wrong.

    NOBODY IS SAYING THAT SHE DESERVED TO BE KILLED! (Yes, that was shouting.) Saying that what happened is what can be expected when you make certain choices is not the same as saying she deserved it. To assert that we are saying that is dishonest and intellectually lazy.

  76. Spartan24 Comment by Spartan24

    Strict Standards: call_user_func_array() expects parameter 1 to be a valid callback, non-static method emotions::filter_text() should not be called statically in /home/misha/public_html/2007/wp-includes/plugin.php on line 59

    but let’s not forget that he wasn’t fucking a hole that he’d drilled in the wall of his garage.

    I needed that laugh. I was at the automotive repair shop for almost 8 hours today and they are still not done.

  77. psychochick Comment by psychochick

    Strict Standards: call_user_func_array() expects parameter 1 to be a valid callback, non-static method emotions::filter_text() should not be called statically in /home/misha/public_html/2007/wp-includes/plugin.php on line 59

    sig94
    “All this animal rights BS is nothing but a guilt trip so you feel better about the slaughter of the truly innocent in their mother’s wombs.”

    That’s a really stupid comment, asshole. I would bet a lot of money that caring about animals has nothing to do with feelings about abortion. Survey all the animal lovers, and I bet their opinions on abortion are all over the map. I’m pretty sure the people up the street with 2 dogs and 3 cats that belong to that big evangelical church love their animals as much as I do mine, but I really doubt they favor abortion. There are lots of really conservative people that love their animals. A few of them pop up on this blog, in fact.
    It’s just not a logical correlation that sentencing these cases has anything to with abortion. Don’t know where on earth you got them from.

    Get a grip on the definition of animal rights. If I were an animal rights person, I would be trying to ban research on animals or even be trying to get them free from labs. I’m a biologist–do you really think I would be in favor of banning animal research? I’ve actually had rats as pets and like them, but that doesn’t mean I would ban them from research. I appreciate how much animal research contributes to the study of human diseases.

    I believe you about the sentence disparities. I am well aware that kids that kill animals are at high risk of becoming serial killers.

    Spartan
    I hate to put you in the same post, but it’s scary to hear more of your background. I’m so glad you got away without physical injury.

  78. Unregistered Comment by nerbygirl

    Strict Standards: call_user_func_array() expects parameter 1 to be a valid callback, non-static method emotions::filter_text() should not be called statically in /home/misha/public_html/2007/wp-includes/plugin.php on line 59

    Lord Spatula:
    When did I join “NOW”? I was never a member, but I love Tammy Bruce. Maybe you should read one of her books. They have big words, so don’t be discouraged.

    Hey, I’m just standing up for a woman who was murdered by an obvious con artist and a member of our police force.
    When I read all of the comments, I would think that SHE was the killer.
    We don’t even know the circumstances of the murder, but you all assume that SHE was to blame for it.
    Let’s ignore the the whore/man and crucify the dead woman!!!!!
    Do you know ANYthing about this woman? Probably not. But you choose to convict her for her own death.

    And by the way, JayBear, have you ever thought that maybe the MAN in this situation made a bad decision in killing this woman?
    Hey, I have disagreements with friends,and family, but I have never thought of killing them because they did not perform to my moral beliefs. I am so disgusted by this “blame the woman” attitude.
    She caused her own death by having an affair?

    Let’s string up Monica Lewinsky. KILL HER.
    Bill had nothing to do with it, after all. He just couldn’t help himself.
    How about Rudy Julliani?
    Trump?
    Tony Robbins?

    These men are all Saints in the view of men.

    Should ex-wives be justified in killing THEM?
    Ex-girlfriend?
    When is MURDER justified because you made bad choices in life?
    Oh, I guess now.

  79. Spartan24 Comment by Spartan24

    Strict Standards: call_user_func_array() expects parameter 1 to be a valid callback, non-static method emotions::filter_text() should not be called statically in /home/misha/public_html/2007/wp-includes/plugin.php on line 59

    I have had more problems with animal rights people like PETA being a dog breeder. You would think that they would be thrilled that someone has 5 dogs and they are very spoiled. NO… the animal radicals hate having pets. You cannot win. I am totally against abortion but have dogs and several bird feeders that I seem to fill daily since I cant stand to see little birds go hungry.

    PC. I am glad I got away too. I still wonder about the friends who are still involved. Mobastard got investigated by the FBI after 9/11 btw.

  80. The Major Comment by The Major

    Strict Standards: call_user_func_array() expects parameter 1 to be a valid callback, non-static method emotions::filter_text() should not be called statically in /home/misha/public_html/2007/wp-includes/plugin.php on line 59

    nerbygirl - I sense a reluctance on your part to actually hear what we are saying.

    1) She did not deserve to die. She IS the victim. Completely and WITHOUT question. Period.

    2) Her scumbag sperminator is the person SOLEY responsible for her death. He deserves to be gutshot and tossed into a mound of fire ants. Him alone. Period.

    Does anybody here disagree with this? Is anybody here actually placing blame on her for her own murder?

    The point being made by mentioning her behavior is not to assign blame for the heinous act, but to understand how such behavior could INCREASE the risk that something like this could happen to her. Perhaps her behavior was a contributing factor, but it certainly not a license to BE murdered. Understanding ALL the factors contributing to a murder is the absolute BEST way to learn how to decrease the odds of it happening to someone else in a similar situation. If young women do not learn from this tragedy, then her death will become a far greater waste than it already is.

    Nerbygirl, you have much reason to be angry. I’d personally flip the switch on the gutless piece of snail shit man who raped you. Hopefully he is somebody’s prison bitch, getting not quite, but most of what he deserves. You learned from the contributing factors that lead to your rape. Have you not passed that wisdom on to other women? Sure you have! Is it not just as wise for us to identify contributing factors in this case and do the same? That really IS what we are trying to do!

  81. Unregistered Comment by Lord Spatula I, King & Tyrant

    Strict Standards: call_user_func_array() expects parameter 1 to be a valid callback, non-static method emotions::filter_text() should not be called statically in /home/misha/public_html/2007/wp-includes/plugin.php on line 59

    Will you make her raise it, or will it be adopted out?

    Not sure yet, PC.  We’re leaning towards adoption, as my daughter is clearly not ready for motherhood, and I’m about five years too old to raise a newborn.  Things could change, though.

    When did I join “NOW”?

    English not your first language, eh, bimbo?

    Yeah, when did you become a little feminazi bitch?

    I was never a member, but I love Tammy Bruce. Maybe you should read one of her books. They have big words, so don’t be discouraged.

    Yeah, this is pretty much what I’d expect from a twat who accuses my friends of joining the Taliban when she’s lost arguments with them.

    Pretty much all blame-the-man, all the time with you, isn’t it, dumbass?

  82. Unregistered Comment by nerbygirl

    Strict Standards: call_user_func_array() expects parameter 1 to be a valid callback, non-static method emotions::filter_text() should not be called statically in /home/misha/public_html/2007/wp-includes/plugin.php on line 59

    Oh, by the way, my story about being raped was not made to gain sympathy, but instead to remind you that the FIRST person that you all want to blame is the victim.
    You know nothing about me or the woman who is dead, but it is obviously(in your minds) OUR fault.

    By the way, I was wearing a nice new pair of very hip “sailor pants” that I had just bought(cool at the time).
    Nothing provocative. I was just stupid and helpful.Damn, I deserved to DIE!
    But hey, blame ME, not the perpetrator.
    Just like you’re doing to this dead woman.

    I’m getting very angry at you men who are supposed to be smarter than this,
    including you, Misha.
    You’ve jumped on this woman before your even know the circumstances.
    How about piling on the whore/man/murderer?
    Hmmmmmmmmmmm??

  83. LC NCLivingBrit Comment by LC NCLivingBrit

    Strict Standards: call_user_func_array() expects parameter 1 to be a valid callback, non-static method emotions::filter_text() should not be called statically in /home/misha/public_html/2007/wp-includes/plugin.php on line 59

    What is your problem? I’m sure it’s more difficult to be raised by a single parent, but many of the kids turn out to be productive members of society. Having a couple of kids is hardly the end of civilization as we know it. Although, this kid will probably have a hard time of it.

    My problem is that me, my wife and every other stable-relationship tax-paying family in this and my former homeland are the ones footing the bill for other peoples bad choices. Even if they aren’t sucking down our tax dollars in welfare, it’s something else from free school meals to some sort of PC BS program to prop up their bad decisions with hugs and blobs of other peoples money.

    Then when the scumbag adulterer follows his natural inclinations and does what “feels right” we end up paying for the investigation, the trial and three-square and cable TV for the twenty-five years it will actually take to work through the mandatory appeals and legal bullshit put this piece of shit in the ground where he belongs.

    I’m tired of paying for people too stupid not to squeeze out unwanted, fatherless kids.

    I’m tired of paying for rehab and ER care for people too stupid to stay off drugs or booze or pills or dope or whatever.

    I’m tired of paying to pry people out of the shit they mired themselves in as they were barely raised by one disinterested parent with other priorities.

    I’m tired of paying for the care and feeding of the endless generations of dregs dragging us into the morass of overly accessible social welfare that bleeds us productive citizens to support a drone class who have no inclination to be anything but a drain on the rest of us.

    I’m tired of having to pay for a slew of law enforcement professionals to clean up the mess these people leave just living their “lives”.

    I’m tired of having to live behind gates and fences and alarms because semi-people who have no grounding in the basic tenets of decency are told that their “lifestyle” of indolence crime and violence isn’t their fault but is the fault of us evil-white-patriarchal-male-aggressor-oppressors who are keeping them down and that THEY are the victim, for whatever trumped up BS-PC-hugs-and-fucking-fairyland-kisses-reason.

    I don’t condone the murder of this woman and I do feel for her family. Hand me the gun, rope or blade and I’ll gladly send her killer into his well deserved Hell….. But I am getting tired of the outrage and surprise every time someones bad choices lead to this fairly likely sort of outcome. If your friends, lovers and partners are cheating scum, expect their actions to reflect this nature. Just don’t expect the rest of us to gasp in horror, throw up our arms and cry “why? WHY?”.

  84. Fuzzhead Comment by Fuzzhead

    Strict Standards: call_user_func_array() expects parameter 1 to be a valid callback, non-static method emotions::filter_text() should not be called statically in /home/misha/public_html/2007/wp-includes/plugin.php on line 59

    Nerby is still completely ignoring everything that is being said. Is she doing this on purpose? I haven’t been around here that long, so I may be wrong, but with the histrionics and hyperbole (and what has to be intentionally ignoring what is actually being said), I’m really starting to wonder why the troll hat isn’t being used.

    I really can only conclude that she is purposely doing this, since what she is reacting to is something that she’s just pulling out of the air rather than what has actually been posted here. And the level of hysteria is out there too far to be real.

  85. Spartan24 Comment by Spartan24

    Strict Standards: call_user_func_array() expects parameter 1 to be a valid callback, non-static method emotions::filter_text() should not be called statically in /home/misha/public_html/2007/wp-includes/plugin.php on line 59

    I dont think anyone here is blaming the victim. She certainly did not deserve to die but she did make a very poor choice in men and opened herself up to problems. Did I deserve what happened to me with my ex? No. Did I ask for trouble when I married a Muslim man when I well knew their treatment of women? Yes I did. Jessie Davis knew that Bobbie Cutts was married and had children with other women and she continued to see him and have babies with him. Bobbie Cutts is a bastard beyond all belief and has most of the blame, especially for the killing, however jessie set herself up for a problem by continuing to date him.

  86. Unregistered Comment by nerbygirl

    Strict Standards: call_user_func_array() expects parameter 1 to be a valid callback, non-static method emotions::filter_text() should not be called statically in /home/misha/public_html/2007/wp-includes/plugin.php on line 59

    You’ve all made my point. It’s so great to be ganged up on. I feel like the dead woman.
    Actually, as a woman, I.E. whore, I SO deserve it.
    Lord “Spatula” had the most hilarious comments.
    I bet you peed yourself, didn’t you? You probably don’t even know who Tammy Bruce is? Hey, my husband will send you a copy of her book.

    I know, this whole thing has been such a shock to all of you men: A woman standing up for a murder victim who made bad choices, and was murdered by a POLICE OFFICER.

    Blame the bitch, blame the bitch.
    Thanks, “psychochic” for the offer, but I’m truly over the rape. I was just trying to make a point. The victim(especially a woman) is always to “blame”.
    A point missed by everyone but you.
    G’night. G’bye.
    Not coming back because this is pointless.

  87. Unregistered Comment by Lord Spatula I, King & Tyrant

    Strict Standards: call_user_func_array() expects parameter 1 to be a valid callback, non-static method emotions::filter_text() should not be called statically in /home/misha/public_html/2007/wp-includes/plugin.php on line 59

    Nerby is still completely ignoring everything that is being said. Is she doing this on purpose?

    Likely.  She throws tantrums like this whenever we don’t march in 100% lockstep with her enlightened  opinions.

    She pulled this sort of fit during the ‘06 elections when we excoriating the RINOs.  She wanted to send them all back just because they had “R” by their names - never mind they all voted like “D”s.  She got called on it; she got huffy.

    So yeah - we’ve seen this act before.

    I feel like the dead woman.

    You left out the “brain-”.

    But that happens a lot when you open your piehole.

  88. Unregistered Comment by winstonsmithy

    Strict Standards: call_user_func_array() expects parameter 1 to be a valid callback, non-static method emotions::filter_text() should not be called statically in /home/misha/public_html/2007/wp-includes/plugin.php on line 59

    Back in the day when the wife and I would come home from work and “Judge Judy” was on, we marvelled at the quantity of dumb white women who were there because they “rented out” a room to a male stranger, lent said stranger a significant amount of cash (for a emergency, usually to buy a motor vehicle), then the guy would skip out without repaying said loan. The wife and I enjoyed it when the “Judge” chewed out the dumb bitch almost as bad as the deadbeat bum.

  89. psychochick Comment by psychochick

    Strict Standards: call_user_func_array() expects parameter 1 to be a valid callback, non-static method emotions::filter_text() should not be called statically in /home/misha/public_html/2007/wp-includes/plugin.php on line 59

    LivingBrit
    OK, that’s why! Thanks for the lengthy comments. There are only 3 things I would disagree with.

    1) no one ever seems to believe this, but most people on welfare in this country are only on it transitorily while they get their lives together. Shit does happen. There are clearly entrenched people, but they are not the majority.

    2) I don’t know where you live, but I don’t even lock the doors when I walk the dogs. The neighbors all look out for each other. It’s a trip.

    3) Rehab is way cheaper than jail, which is where most of these people would end up without treatment. There are genetic predispositions to these things; it’s not all a matter of character flaws.

    Spat
    Well, you’ll make one couple very happy if you go that way! Hope it all goes smoothly.

  90. Spartan24 Comment by Spartan24

    Strict Standards: call_user_func_array() expects parameter 1 to be a valid callback, non-static method emotions::filter_text() should not be called statically in /home/misha/public_html/2007/wp-includes/plugin.php on line 59

    Nobody here said that it was the woman’s fault she was raped. I am sorry you had a horrible experiance but don’t blame the men here for stating the obvious about the Jessie Davis story.

  91. Spartan24 Comment by Spartan24

    Strict Standards: call_user_func_array() expects parameter 1 to be a valid callback, non-static method emotions::filter_text() should not be called statically in /home/misha/public_html/2007/wp-includes/plugin.php on line 59

    we marvelled at the quantity of dumb white women who were there because they “rented out” a room to a male stranger, lent said stranger a significant amount of cash (for a emergency, usually to buy a motor vehicle), then the guy would skip out without repaying said loan.

    It is sad to see this, not mentioned was the fact that the men that were “loaned” the money were usually black.

    PC I knew many people on welfare when I was in college, most of them are now productive citizens.

  92. Emperor Misha I Comment by Emperor Misha I

    Strict Standards: call_user_func_array() expects parameter 1 to be a valid callback, non-static method emotions::filter_text() should not be called statically in /home/misha/public_html/2007/wp-includes/plugin.php on line 59

    I haven’t been around here that long, so I may be wrong, but with the histrionics and hyperbole (and what has to be intentionally ignoring what is actually being said), I’m really starting to wonder why the troll hat isn’t being used.

    Nah. Nerbygirl here may be a lot of things, but I’ve known her for a long time and troll isn’t one of them.

    What we have here is a failure to communicate, compounded by passion. And, let me tell you, if I thought for a second that anybody here were saying that “Jessie deserved it”, then I’d be pretty fucking passionate in my rebuttal as well. The thing is, nobody is saying that.

    Nerby, you know me, you know where I stand on things like these and trust me, if I for a second suspected that anybody were saying “she deserved it” and “it’s not the murderer’s fault”, then everybody would be treated to a fine display of my most choice invective.

    I don’t know how else to explain it or make it any clearer, but that’s not what I or anybody else are saying.

  93. Unregistered Pingback by Sadly, No! » I’m Not Saying the Whore Deserved It, But …

    Strict Standards: call_user_func_array() expects parameter 1 to be a valid callback, non-static method emotions::filter_text() should not be called statically in /home/misha/public_html/2007/wp-includes/plugin.php on line 59

    […] Emperor Misha shows up to throw some more stones at the dead […]

  94. Fuzzhead Comment by Fuzzhead

    Strict Standards: call_user_func_array() expects parameter 1 to be a valid callback, non-static method emotions::filter_text() should not be called statically in /home/misha/public_html/2007/wp-includes/plugin.php on line 59

    Wow! I haven’t seen that much dysfunction from a single individual in a long time…

    Ganged up on? Presenting logical arguments and stating reasoned conclusions to refute the incoherent shrieking of an out-of-control victimhoodaholic is ganging up?

    And what’s with the self-aggrandizement? She has this delusion that she’s been somehow shocking to somebody here, that she has some special power or something:
    “this whole thing has been such a shock to all of you men.” You’re right. We’ve never seen a hysterical drama queen before. We’re speechless at the wonder that is you.

    You are woman.

    Hear you roar.

  95. Fuzzhead Comment by Fuzzhead

    Strict Standards: call_user_func_array() expects parameter 1 to be a valid callback, non-static method emotions::filter_text() should not be called statically in /home/misha/public_html/2007/wp-includes/plugin.php on line 59

    Just for clarification, my last post was, of course, about Nerbygirl, even though it came immediately after Misha’s post.

  96. chuck Comment by chuck

    Strict Standards: call_user_func_array() expects parameter 1 to be a valid callback, non-static method emotions::filter_text() should not be called statically in /home/misha/public_html/2007/wp-includes/plugin.php on line 59

    Misha,
    OT but I thought you might be interested in ripping these a$$holes a new one.
    http://www.sanduskyregister.com/articles/2007/06/25/front/321675.txt

  97. jaybear Comment by jaybear

    Strict Standards: call_user_func_array() expects parameter 1 to be a valid callback, non-static method emotions::filter_text() should not be called statically in /home/misha/public_html/2007/wp-includes/plugin.php on line 59

    Nerbygirl sez:

    And by the way, JayBear, have you ever thought that maybe the MAN in this situation made a bad decision in killing this woman?
    Hey, I have disagreements with friends,and family, but I have never thought of killing them because they did not perform to my moral beliefs. I am so disgusted by this “blame the woman” attitude.
    She caused her own death by having an affair?

    Yes I did goddamnit, said as much also in post #63…ARE YOU COMPREHENDING ANYTHING THAT IS BEING SAID HERE??? (yes that’s shouting too)

    We’re on your side my friend, just stop looking at everything through blood red glasses and try to understand the crux of what’s being said. If you want to shout out that you are a victim then do so, but don’t crucify us because of it. You are not to blame for what happened to you, neither is Jessie Davis to be blamed…but she would be alive today if she hadn’t chosen an environment and a lifestyle festering with scum like the one who killed her.

    you are misreading what is being said

    and yes I DO understand where you are coming from, a close high school friend of mine was sexually assaulted in an adjacent field during a football game…she said she could see us milling about during the game, and she yelled for us, but we never heard her cry out. I wish we had heard her…the situation would have turned out more in her favor if we had.

  98. LC Mrs. M-ITT™ Comment by LC Mrs. M-ITT™

    Strict Standards: call_user_func_array() expects parameter 1 to be a valid callback, non-static method emotions::filter_text() should not be called statically in /home/misha/public_html/2007/wp-includes/plugin.php on line 59

    ARE YOU COMPREHENDING ANYTHING THAT IS BEING SAID HERE???

    Obviously not. This is a case of grabbing onto a single phrase or inflection and running to hell and back with it and still ending up in the same place.

    I am a bit disturbed that the comments here seem to be blaming the victim for her own murder.

    There’s no outright blame or anyone voicing such blame, but her telekinetic abilities are obviously so pronounced that she can read your minds and know instantly what you are really thinking. Unfortunately it is preventing her from seeing what is actually being said, in favor of what she wants to see instead.

  99. Unregistered Comment by baldilocks

    Strict Standards: call_user_func_array() expects parameter 1 to be a valid callback, non-static method emotions::filter_text() should not be called statically in /home/misha/public_html/2007/wp-includes/plugin.php on line 59

    nerbygirl:

    You were accidentally in the wrong place for a few minutes when that animal hurt you.

    Jessie Davis was purposely in the wrong place (in a sexual relationship with Cutts) for years.

    Big difference. Why you want to liken the bad thing that happened to you to the bad situation that Davis repeatedly but herself in is beyond me. And, before you start with the quite sexist rants about men, I’m a woman; a black one.

  100. psychochick Comment by psychochick

    Strict Standards: call_user_func_array() expects parameter 1 to be a valid callback, non-static method emotions::filter_text() should not be called statically in /home/misha/public_html/2007/wp-includes/plugin.php on line 59

    I was thinking (Oh dear God–not that!): what if she’s in a major manic state right now? That would explain the intensity of the posts and the refusal to acknowledge/appreciate the points being made.

    NG–not a slight! I’ve been there myself, although never on a blog, fortunately

  101. kwongdzu Comment by kwongdzu

    Strict Standards: call_user_func_array() expects parameter 1 to be a valid callback, non-static method emotions::filter_text() should not be called statically in /home/misha/public_html/2007/wp-includes/plugin.php on line 59

    Bad things do sometimes happen to people who aren’t acting stupid. However, making stupid decisions really ups the odds that something bad will happen. I believe that is the gist of this thread. How is that hard to see?

    And Psychochick, I kinda like your style, so start locking your door. Even diligent neighbors can’t be there all the time, and all it takes is once.

  102. Radical Redneck Comment by Radical Redneck

    Strict Standards: call_user_func_array() expects parameter 1 to be a valid callback, non-static method emotions::filter_text() should not be called statically in /home/misha/public_html/2007/wp-includes/plugin.php on line 59

    I really think that if I had stayed he would have killed me at some point, he would have actually murdered me or the stress would have caused me some sort of illness. One time after he went to an Islamic conference he actually choked me to near unconciousness

    It would have Spartan. Here’s what all too often is the end result.

    I used to work with these scumbags!

  103. kwongdzu Comment by kwongdzu

    Strict Standards: call_user_func_array() expects parameter 1 to be a valid callback, non-static method emotions::filter_text() should not be called statically in /home/misha/public_html/2007/wp-includes/plugin.php on line 59

    Spartan: How did you find yourself married to this man? I am just curious if there were any behavioral red flags that you now see in retrospect.

  104. Radical Redneck Comment by Radical Redneck

    Strict Standards: call_user_func_array() expects parameter 1 to be a valid callback, non-static method emotions::filter_text() should not be called statically in /home/misha/public_html/2007/wp-includes/plugin.php on line 59


    Blame the bitch, blame the bitch.
    Thanks, “psychochic” for the offer, but I’m truly over the rape (NOW THAT’S FUNNY! :cry: laugh)I was just trying to make a point. The victim(especially a woman) is always to “blame”.
    A point missed by everyone but you.
    G’night. G’bye…Not coming back because this is pointless

    Y’know, after 100 times repeating the same shit (especially after countless explanations/ass kissings) and still repeating the same overwrought/melodramatic memes, me thinks you would rather be a self-aggrandizing sympathy/moral superior whore than engage in anything resembling sensibility.

    This ain’t the DU, Kos, Atrios crowd - overwrought emotionalism/demagogerey doesn’t cut it here. We deal with rationalization.

    I’d have thought you’d figure this out by now.

  105. Cannon Fodder Comment by Cannon Fodder

    Strict Standards: call_user_func_array() expects parameter 1 to be a valid callback, non-static method emotions::filter_text() should not be called statically in /home/misha/public_html/2007/wp-includes/plugin.php on line 59

    Well, this is all related to the fact that this nation allowed the atheists to turn the nation away from god and morality.

  106. Unregistered Comment by seagoon

    Strict Standards: call_user_func_array() expects parameter 1 to be a valid callback, non-static method emotions::filter_text() should not be called statically in /home/misha/public_html/2007/wp-includes/plugin.php on line 59

    Cannon Fodder, that’s a heap of screaming bullshit. There’s plenty of righteous atheists and immoral religious types in any country, and the US is no exception.

    Rapists, murderers, peds and related scum are not immoral, they are amoral.

    If you need an example of an upright, stalwartly moral atheist, read Kim du Toit.

  107. psychochick Comment by psychochick

    Strict Standards: call_user_func_array() expects parameter 1 to be a valid callback, non-static method emotions::filter_text() should not be called statically in /home/misha/public_html/2007/wp-includes/plugin.php on line 59

    RR
    I think it’s way more likely that she has some problems rather than being a whore.

    “overwrought emotionalism/demagogerey doesn’t cut it here”
    –some things are wonderfully rational here and a joy to discuss
    –other threads are nothing but “overwrought emotionalism,” and I don’t dare go near them.

  108. Lady Heather Comment by Lady Heather

    Strict Standards: call_user_func_array() expects parameter 1 to be a valid callback, non-static method emotions::filter_text() should not be called statically in /home/misha/public_html/2007/wp-includes/plugin.php on line 59

    Damn…

    What happened here last night?!?!

  109. LC NCLivingBrit Comment by LC NCLivingBrit

    Strict Standards: call_user_func_array() expects parameter 1 to be a valid callback, non-static method emotions::filter_text() should not be called statically in /home/misha/public_html/2007/wp-includes/plugin.php on line 59

    To answer your points Psychochick

    1) no one ever seems to believe this, but most people on welfare in this country are only on it transitorily while they get their lives together. Shit does happen. There are clearly entrenched people, but they are not the majority.

    I wholeheartedly disagree. The community I was born in and lived most of my life in was one seething mass of lifetime welfare recipients (this was in the UK btw). At least half of my friends and sadly my family growing up lived on state benefits, in state housing. I chose to forego this pitiable lifestyle (as did my parents when they finally grew up) and move as far from that quagmire of failure as possible. And you know what, where I ended up living (money is tight before the work permit comes in, if you do it legally) for a while had -just- the same people, with the same hordes of unwatched and unwashed kids and the same nightly debaucheries and the same tired crap for excuses as to how none of their “bad luck” was their fault.

    2) I don’t know where you live, but I don’t even lock the doors when I walk the dogs. The neighbors all look out for each other. It’s a trip.

    I live in a city, in a gated apartment community. Like most city apartments I’ve lived in, I’ve yet to actually meet my neighbours apart from the one lady across the unit that seems to keep more or less the same schedule I do. Relying on others for your security seems foolish at best, but then again I have always lived in cities so I might have a different take on it than someone of less urban descent.

    My sense of responsibility and duty to self, family and community require me to exercise the basic security precautions to prevent me and mine becoming another statistic. I applaud your optimism Psychochick and I hope (I don’t pray) it will be rewarded with kindness from your fellow man.

    3) Rehab is way cheaper than jail, which is where most of these people would end up without treatment. There are genetic predispositions to these things; it’s not all a matter of character flaws.

    I know all about those pre-dispositions, I seem to have inherited most of them from my parents. My father is a former slave to narcotics of several flavours and both of my parents were fairly serious alcoholics while I was growing up, not to mention being regular users of marijuana to this day.

    You know what? I don’t smoke or do drugs and I rarely even drink anymore. I was pretty close to becoming a career drunk for a few years (I was killing on average 8-12 pints of proper beer a night, or a bottle of spirits, or a mix of both) but I didn’t like the person it made me, the things it precipitated or the costs to my already dubious health. So I stopped. I’m no evangelical 12-stepper, I just -chose- to moderate my behaviour and avoid the people who reinforced it (which meant a -good- chunk of my circle of friends), which is apparently beyond the realms of comprehension to vast seething mass of humanity these days, at least in the First World.

    Rehab is another way to affirm peoples poor choices with hugs and pudding. “You’re not choosing to pop pills/drink/do coke, you’re sick!” they cry. Well I call bullshit. Rehab only works for those who have already chosen to moderate their behaviour, and for most of those indulging in it, they’ve not chosen any such thing, they’re in it under a self-inflicted delusion that will pass, or to forestall the judgement of a court or to fool family and friends into giving them another chance.

    I know my opinions are not always popular and on these topics (and a couple of others I bet) I probably come off as a trifle strident, judgemental and harsh…. But considering what laxity, permissiveness and the gradual downgrading to a quaint quirk of morality and personal responsibility have done for our society, I consider my harshness more than justified and a little judgement -long- overdue.

  110. Lady Heather Comment by Lady Heather

    Strict Standards: call_user_func_array() expects parameter 1 to be a valid callback, non-static method emotions::filter_text() should not be called statically in /home/misha/public_html/2007/wp-includes/plugin.php on line 59

    Thank you, Sire, and others who were very patient with NG last night.

    She has been through a terrible experience, something that women fear most happening to them. If she took these comments personally, I don’t blame her a bit. As I alluded to before, I am sick and tired of the victims and their alleged lack of morals being on trial instead of the scum who did the killing, raping, battering, etc. And that has happened for too long, too damn often.

    I agree this woman was dumb enough to get involved with a man whom she knew was fooling around on his wife and not only impregnated her once, but she allowed it to happen twice, which can only be called STUPID, seeming he was in no rush to commit to her. And obviously a decent responsible man who would treat her well, and be a full time dad and husband wasn’t her cup of tea. And she paid the price for it, though most affairs don’t end up with murdered people, which cannot be said for the souls and hearts of the parties involved, however.

    And for too long we have ignored the glorification of violence and sluttification in our culture. And rewarding the behavior and its consequences.

    You play with fire, chances are you’re going to get burned.

    The woman in this case certainly did. But the killer should have to too.

  111. Tom Doniphon Comment by Tom Doniphon

    Strict Standards: call_user_func_array() expects parameter 1 to be a valid callback, non-static method emotions::filter_text() should not be called statically in /home/misha/public_html/2007/wp-includes/plugin.php on line 59

    I don’t condone the murder of this woman and I do feel for her family. Hand me the gun, rope or blade and I’ll gladly send her killer into his well deserved Hell….. But I am getting tired of the outrage and surprise every time someones bad choices lead to this fairly likely sort of outcome. If your friends, lovers and partners are cheating scum, expect their actions to reflect this nature. Just don’t expect the rest of us to gasp in horror, throw up our arms and cry “why? WHY?”.

    My sentiments exactly - I think the dude should fry for this, but I’ll save the majority of my sympathy for people who don’t put themselves “on the edge of the roof” (to steal an example from Misha) - like her kid, nerbygirl, et al.

  112. Lady Heather Comment by Lady Heather

    Strict Standards: call_user_func_array() expects parameter 1 to be a valid callback, non-static method emotions::filter_text() should not be called statically in /home/misha/public_html/2007/wp-includes/plugin.php on line 59

    And NerbyGirl is not a troll.

    She has a lot of opinions in line with ours, and shame on some of you (a few, not all) for the way she was treated. I disagreed with some parts of what she said too, but can we have disagreements here without it getting personal and nasty to anyone who disagrees? That is the one thing I do not like about it here. Even when a regular “LC” has a disagreeing opinion they’re all of a sudden treated like a troll.

    I’d like to think the regulars here are very intelligent, rational people who should have known better and just ignored her, just based on some Christian compassion for what she has been through.

    Now, my rant is over. Fire away.

  113. LC NCLivingBrit Comment by LC NCLivingBrit

    Strict Standards: call_user_func_array() expects parameter 1 to be a valid callback, non-static method emotions::filter_text() should not be called statically in /home/misha/public_html/2007/wp-includes/plugin.php on line 59

    I have seen shanties in Cape Town, and subsistence farms in Tanzania, and sheapards huts in Lesotho, and hamlets on the Himalayas, and young buddhists carrying logs for miles to build a library. There is no, repeat, no excuse for this kind of behaviour in the First World.

    Damn right Fanusi. I’m sorry you’ve found yourself in my homeland, but considering where you’ve probably been along the way, it isn’t so bad I’d guess.

    One wonderful thing about my birthplace was the huge diversity in people that lived and sometimes worked there. During my time at the post office I got to meet people from every corner of the world, most of them strife-ridden. I worked with North Korean escapees, men and women from Senegal and Sierra Leone and Zimbabwe, Haitians and folks from the many islands of the Carib…. And almost all of them shared a desire to better their situation through their own efforts rather than suckling at the public teat.

    To work alongside people who had dragged themselves and their families out of places that resemble Hell in many cases was a privilege and damn humbling. For some, what was to me a semi-crap short term job was a lifes dream of steady, honest employment that carried no threat of death or persecution.

    One friend of mine from Sierra Leone told me he was always so happy (we used to tease him about his constant good cheer) because he knew the political opponents of his family wouldn’t get to finish the job they started before they fled the country, with him as the last surviving male from three generations.

    Most of us over here are happy over some indulgence we got to gratify or the new season of some Godawful reality show.

    Puts things into perspective, it really does.

  114. Sir Christopher Comment by Sir Christopher

    Strict Standards: call_user_func_array() expects parameter 1 to be a valid callback, non-static method emotions::filter_text() should not be called statically in /home/misha/public_html/2007/wp-includes/plugin.php on line 59

    and more of what happens when you eliminate morals for a society:

    Women Arrested, Accused Of Bathroom Sex In Front Of Children

  115. Ten-Ten Comment by Ten-Ten

    Strict Standards: call_user_func_array() expects parameter 1 to be a valid callback, non-static method emotions::filter_text() should not be called statically in /home/misha/public_html/2007/wp-includes/plugin.php on line 59

    I know my opinions are not always popular and on these topics (and a couple of others I bet) I probably come off as a trifle strident, judgemental and harsh….

    …And entirely correct.

  116. Unregistered Comment by Lord Spatula I, King & Tyrant

    Strict Standards: call_user_func_array() expects parameter 1 to be a valid callback, non-static method emotions::filter_text() should not be called statically in /home/misha/public_html/2007/wp-includes/plugin.php on line 59

    She has a lot of opinions in line with ours, and shame on some of you (a few, not all) for the way she was treated. I disagreed with some parts of what she said too, but can we have disagreements here without it getting personal and nasty to anyone who disagrees? That is the one thing I do not like about it here. Even when a regular “LC” has a disagreeing opinion they’re all of a sudden treated like a troll.

    With all respect & love, H, she could have made her points without referring to DK as a Taliban, or being as snarky as she was with me.  I mean, I hate to say she started it, but…well…she started it.

    And as I tried to point out last night, this is not the first time she’s thrown a temper tantrum when our opinions didn’t dovetail with hers.  Or had you forgotten that she had blamed the Emperor for the Demoscummic takeover of Congress?

    She was being deliberately obstinate last night, and she got called on it, and she got her knickers in a twist.  Sympathize with her if you must, okay - but I’ll pass, thanks.

  117. Unregistered Comment by jkaiseresquire

    Strict Standards: call_user_func_array() expects parameter 1 to be a valid callback, non-static method emotions::filter_text() should not be called statically in /home/misha/public_html/2007/wp-includes/plugin.php on line 59

    All this just to avoid baby momma drama. Guess it is a life lesson that knocking up several women (some multiple times) isn’t a good way to live. Sadly, I doubt many people are learning from this.

    J. Kaiser
    http://totaltransformation.wordpress.com

  118. AyUaxe Comment by AyUaxe

    Strict Standards: call_user_func_array() expects parameter 1 to be a valid callback, non-static method emotions::filter_text() should not be called statically in /home/misha/public_html/2007/wp-includes/plugin.php on line 59

    Whew, this one’s gettin’ a floggin’! Finally saw a fairly extensive report on this sick, sad situation and my money is now on Cutts’ wife or other ho. His statements and demeanor don’t indicate guilt or the brazen hubris of a murderer to me. I’m no mystic, it’s just my gut. On the other hand, the pic (mugshot) of a bad-ass lookin’ AA female who I presume to be Cutts’ wife or other ho sets off alarm bells. AA women, in my observation, are some of the most brutal of perps, particularly to a female rival in any sense. I’ll leave the analysis of why to others with more psycho-social chops–I just call ‘em as I’ve seen ‘em. Finding out that Cutts had another bun in Davis’ oven would be just the thing to turn a girls’ slumber party into a slaughter. On the other hand, Cutts was looking forward to a good 7 months or so of no consequences sex, thanks to the linebacker he’d already put in play. If I’m right, I think I’ll buy myself a .45 and Mrs. and I’ll go to the range. If I’m wrong, I’ll buy Mrs. the SP101 she’s been wanting and take her to the range. Win/win!

    BTW, cheating is never OK! If one is in a bad relationship, be honest about it, end it, then move on. A seeming happy ending from adultery isn’t really very trustworthy, is it? Think about it.

    And abusing animals is a well-documented precursor to human abuse. If you know of that kind of crap going on and don’t attack it when it’s kittens, you get a big piece of the blame when it’s an elderly neighbor or some kid who disappears from the mall who’s the vic. Letting attitude get in the way of reality and responsibility is at least as stupid as letting your genitals lead you around.

  119. DJ Allyn,  ITW Comment by DJ Allyn, ITW

    Strict Standards: call_user_func_array() expects parameter 1 to be a valid callback, non-static method emotions::filter_text() should not be called statically in /home/misha/public_html/2007/wp-includes/plugin.php on line 59

    Why is this “news”? Why does it stand out above all the other “news” that happens in this world every day?

    Lacy and Scott Peterson, Aruba, Anna Nicole Smith, Jon Benet Ramsey, Paris Boo Hoo Hilton…

    All of these “stories” took on a life of its own. There is nothing all that spectatular about any of these “stories”. They are distractions from the real news — the important news.

    Its no wonder our media has been swirling down the sewer for years.

  120. Spartan24 Comment by Spartan24

    Strict Standards: call_user_func_array() expects parameter 1 to be a valid callback, non-static method emotions::filter_text() should not be called statically in /home/misha/public_html/2007/wp-includes/plugin.php on line 59

    How did you find yourself married to this man?

    It was part of a series of poor choices. He managed to keep his true colors at bay for the several months we “dated” Muslim men are not allowed to be alone with someone of the opposite sex that they are not married to so we never got a chance to really get to know each other. He managed to keep up the facade for about 2 months into the marriage but as soon as the ink was dry on his temporary green card he started changing into a cruel dictator. I was not allowed to go to a restaurant or movie since in his country women are not allowed to go to these places. I was also not allowed to have money and literally beg for money for groceries.

    AA women are some of the meanest women I have ever run into. The hate Euro women who date AA men since they have a tough time finding a man. If I have to go to where my husband works, I steer clear of the back porch where most of these types of women hang out. Their behavior in public leaves alot to be desired too. I actually saw one woman grab some strange man’s nipple and twist it. I was so disgusted I had to leave. Now I have worked with many AA women who did not act like this but there is still quite a few– even educated and professional– who behave like loud screaming harpies.

  121. Fuzzhead Comment by Fuzzhead

    Strict Standards: call_user_func_array() expects parameter 1 to be a valid callback, non-static method emotions::filter_text() should not be called statically in /home/misha/public_html/2007/wp-includes/plugin.php on line 59

    >They are distractions from the real news — the important news.

    Exactly. Doesn’t anybody know that we’re in the middle of baseball season?!?!?!

  122. franksalterego Comment by franksalterego

    Strict Standards: call_user_func_array() expects parameter 1 to be a valid callback, non-static method emotions::filter_text() should not be called statically in /home/misha/public_html/2007/wp-includes/plugin.php on line 59

    Haven’t had time to read all the comments, but Misha is right on.

    This Society™ is headed to Hell in a Handbasket.

    The Alternative-life-Style, Sub-Human Sub-Culture, is gaining too much social, and political ground.

    Sad to say, this society can’t take too much more of this before we become a third-world culture.

    Wake up…The Monster is at your door.

  123. Vergeltung Comment by Vergeltung

    Strict Standards: call_user_func_array() expects parameter 1 to be a valid callback, non-static method emotions::filter_text() should not be called statically in /home/misha/public_html/2007/wp-includes/plugin.php on line 59

    AyUaxe has a point; I don’t think “another woman” can be ruled out in this case, as far as being the principle murderer or at least a co-defendant. Time will tell, I imagine.

  124. TJ's Anti-Contrarian Blog Comment by TJ's Anti-Contrarian Blog

    Strict Standards: call_user_func_array() expects parameter 1 to be a valid callback, non-static method emotions::filter_text() should not be called statically in /home/misha/public_html/2007/wp-includes/plugin.php on line 59

    This is a product of our societal denigration of marriage.

    Does marriage mean anythying to anyone anymore? It does to me. Swapping partners llike your square-dancing only leads to pain. It is part of the human condition to seek stability and to rail against the destruction of lives that ensues from the lack thereof. This is why many are so resistant to change.

    Swapping partners is the greatest threat against a stable, quiet, non-violent life. evolutionary Psychologists believe we are hard-wired to ensure the survival of our particular genetic line. This cannot be assured in an unstable environment.

    She knew he was married. She knew the danger emotions she brought to life, but she chose the “excitement” of an extra-marital tryst. At the very end, she got more “excitement” than she anticipated, but she got what she wanted.

    Now it’s time for Bobby Cutts to get his.

  125. LC Mrs. M-ITT™ Comment by LC Mrs. M-ITT™

    Strict Standards: call_user_func_array() expects parameter 1 to be a valid callback, non-static method emotions::filter_text() should not be called statically in /home/misha/public_html/2007/wp-includes/plugin.php on line 59

    I’d like to think the regulars here are very intelligent, rational people who should have known better and just ignored her, just based on some Christian compassion for what she has been through.

    If you read back Heather you will see they bent over backwards to tell her that they were NOT blaming the victim for her death. They did everything possible to try to get her to understand that, but she refused to let go of it. It’s one thing to misinterpret a comment and go off and then come back and say “I misread what was said and I understand what you’re saying. I don’t agree with it but I know you’re not doing what I thought you were“. She instead grabbed onto a wisp of what she thought was the direction this was going and ran with it to the point of ending in an hysterical rant.

    You know the people here. You know Misha. You know that they are not about to blame a woman for her own death. I would have stepped in and said something if I thought they were doing that. They were patient with Nerby, going to great lengths to spell out what they were saying and she spit it right back at them. She claims to be over the rape, but it is very obvious that she is not. That anger she displayed was not simply against what she thought was being said here.

    But then what would I know about anger against an attacker? I was only sexually molested by my own grandfather for four years from the time I was ten until I was fourteen. Not nearly as dramatic as being attacked by a complete stranger…but for a child who was too damn scared and embarrassed to tell anyone, it was still hell to go through. I mean how the hell does a child tell her own mother that her FATHER is doing things to you that he should never even be THINKING about, much less acting on? I have a hell of alot of anger about what I went through. Anger about how someone that I should have been able to trust as much as G-d and my own father could have done what he did to me. Anger that my parents should have been able to know what was happening without my having to tell them. Anger that I was convinced by my grandfather that I would be blamed and that if I did say something, no one would believe a child over an adult. Anger that it caused me to always wonder if my own Dad would ever do that to me.

    I have plenty of anger…but I know that the only one that deserves it is the one that did what he did to me. I’m not about to project it onto anyone else. I also have plenty of compassion for others that have been through similar circumstances, but when it gets to the point that they refuse to understand what others are saying and start projecting their own skewed viewpoint (and yes when you have been through such an experience you WILL view the world through those eyes) onto others opinions and going off on a rant against them, the sympathy factor will drop quickly.

  126. Unregistered Comment by baldilocks

    Strict Standards: call_user_func_array() expects parameter 1 to be a valid callback, non-static method emotions::filter_text() should not be called statically in /home/misha/public_html/2007/wp-includes/plugin.php on line 59

    Spartan24 said:

    [Black women] hate Euro women who date AA men since they have a tough time finding a man.

    I do hope that you’re not presuming to speak for all or even most black women, madam.

    That’s not *really* the reason that some black women hate said white women. The hate exists for the same overblown ego-based reason that some white men also hate seeing the same couple-combination–both look at it as a repudiation of their physical selves. They look at it as a denigration of their phenotypes. It has nothing to do with whether finding their own (black women or white men) partners is difficult or not (though some may say that).

    In short, it’s envy and covetousness.

    And, as to bad/disgusting behavior in public, black women don’t have a lock on that either; something I found out during my twenty years in the AF. I saw some white girls doing things I wouldn’t dream of doing–things far more, shall we saw, fluid-involving than pinching a man’s nipple. And as a result of repeatedly being treated like an idiot while working in offices with women–some black but mostly white–I have resolved to never work for anyone else again. (To be fair, I think that Office Harassment is more of a woman thing than a race thing.)

    So you’re not the only one who has noticed puzzling and, perhaps, unpleasant things about the “other.” We have simply come to different conclusions.

  127. Unregistered Comment by jimmytheclaw

    Strict Standards: call_user_func_array() expects parameter 1 to be a valid callback, non-static method emotions::filter_text() should not be called statically in /home/misha/public_html/2007/wp-includes/plugin.php on line 59

    wow 128 comments is that a record or what

  128. Spartan24 Comment by Spartan24

    Strict Standards: call_user_func_array() expects parameter 1 to be a valid callback, non-static method emotions::filter_text() should not be called statically in /home/misha/public_html/2007/wp-includes/plugin.php on line 59

    Baldilocks— Heavens no, I have worked with and been associated with black women who were the utmost in professionality and courtesy. I believe you on what you have seen, I have seen some pretty gross behavior on all fronts. I saw the picture of the alledged accomplice and she looks the part of someone who would abuse a woman who she thought was after her man.

  129. kwongdzu Comment by kwongdzu

    Strict Standards: call_user_func_array() expects parameter 1 to be a valid callback, non-static method emotions::filter_text() should not be called statically in /home/misha/public_html/2007/wp-includes/plugin.php on line 59

    The reason I asked, Spartan, is this. My dad was an abusive guy (I’ve been on the receiving end of a choking, as has my mother - I appreciate oxygen!)

    I often wondered how my mom ended up with my dad. Obviously someone couldn’t act like that during a courtship, or they’d be dropped like a hot potato. And my mom’s parents were wonderful loving people, but they weren’t permissive patsy-parents. In fact, I would have said my grandparents were good parents. We (my brothers and I) spent a lot of time with them, and I’d say they helped raise us. So why did mom marry a guy who hit her?

    Well, having grown up with that I swore I would never put up with it myself. I didn’t date a guy if he acted like an asshole. And I did marry Mr. Right. Now, however, our daughter is engaged to a guy that displays some of my dad’s characteristics. It makes me crazy! I’ve voiced my issues, and I have to let her deal with her decisions, but it is hard to butt out. I hope that either I am misreading this guy or that she will figure it out herself. But she didn’t have the “advantage” (?) that I had. How do you recognize a snake if you’ve never seen one before?

  130. Spartan24 Comment by Spartan24

    Strict Standards: call_user_func_array() expects parameter 1 to be a valid callback, non-static method emotions::filter_text() should not be called statically in /home/misha/public_html/2007/wp-includes/plugin.php on line 59

    You never can tell sometimes. It is hard to distinguish between truly abusive behavior and traits that are merely similar to someone who has abused.

  131. WayneB Comment by WayneB

    Strict Standards: call_user_func_array() expects parameter 1 to be a valid callback, non-static method emotions::filter_text() should not be called statically in /home/misha/public_html/2007/wp-includes/plugin.php on line 59

    It is hard to distinguish between truly abusive behavior and traits that are merely similar to someone who has abused.

    That’s very true. At one time I was very worried for my sister, because my brother-in-law was exhibiting traits similar to his father, who shot his mother with a shotgun in a drunken rage before using it on himself (She survived - it was birdshot - but her face is horribly disfigured). Now, it appears that he has matured significantly. I don’t know if he just grew out of it, or if she confronted him about it, but he is definitely improved.

  132. kwongdzu Comment by kwongdzu

    Strict Standards: call_user_func_array() expects parameter 1 to be a valid callback, non-static method emotions::filter_text() should not be called statically in /home/misha/public_html/2007/wp-includes/plugin.php on line 59

    What I’m going by is what I see as controlling behavior: not allowing her to spend time with family and friends when he is off work, berating her for really stupid piddly things, requiring that she conform to his schedule, and calling her every 15 minutes when she is out of his sight. Since she has started going with him she has not made any new friends, and she has lost all but one of her old ones. She’s in college, for Chrissake! She should meet and socialize with people. And he is disrespectful of her dad and me; she has said that this bothers her and she has told him so.

  133. kwongdzu Comment by kwongdzu

    Strict Standards: call_user_func_array() expects parameter 1 to be a valid callback, non-static method emotions::filter_text() should not be called statically in /home/misha/public_html/2007/wp-includes/plugin.php on line 59

    …but he has also told her that she will never meet someone who loves her as much as he does or who will treat her as well. I didn’t pry for any of this information; she offered it.

  134. Fuzzhead Comment by Fuzzhead

    Strict Standards: call_user_func_array() expects parameter 1 to be a valid callback, non-static method emotions::filter_text() should not be called statically in /home/misha/public_html/2007/wp-includes/plugin.php on line 59

    >not allowing her to spend time with family and friends when he is off work, berating her for really stupid piddly things, requiring that she conform to his schedule, and calling her every 15 minutes when she is out of his sight

    I’ve known husbands/boyfriends and wives/girlfriends that are like that. They need somebody to give them a boot to the head. Repeatedly, until they stop. The other person in the relationship needs to get a boot to the head as well, to wake him/her up to stop putting up with inappropriate, unhealthy behavior like that.

  135. Fuzzhead Comment by Fuzzhead

    Strict Standards: call_user_func_array() expects parameter 1 to be a valid callback, non-static method emotions::filter_text() should not be called statically in /home/misha/public_html/2007/wp-includes/plugin.php on line 59

    >he has also told her that she will never meet someone who loves her as much as he does or who will treat her as well

    That always leads to “and if I can’t have you, nobody will!” and extensive news coverage of the aftermath of the crime.

  136. JanetMae Comment by JanetMae

    Strict Standards: call_user_func_array() expects parameter 1 to be a valid callback, non-static method emotions::filter_text() should not be called statically in /home/misha/public_html/2007/wp-includes/plugin.php on line 59

    And how many times, when you asked, “Why the fuck do you stay with that asshole?” or told her to “Get out, get away from him, stay away from him.” were you told:

    “But I know he loves me!”

    “Who’ll take care of me and the kids?”

    “But I love him so much!”

    “He’s just moody sometimes…” (While applying base with a trowel and wearing a long sleeved shirt to hide the bruises.)

    “He’s such a good daddy!” (While trying to stop the three year from screaming from the pain of the cigarette burns on his hand.)

    “He and his wife are separated and as soon as the divorce is final, we’re getting married!”

    “How could I leave him? He NEEDS me!”

  137. kwongdzu Comment by kwongdzu

    Strict Standards: call_user_func_array() expects parameter 1 to be a valid callback, non-static method emotions::filter_text() should not be called statically in /home/misha/public_html/2007/wp-includes/plugin.php on line 59

    Fuzzhead: That’s what bothers me. On the other hand, as someone pointed out, once you’ve been abused you become hypersensitive and may over analyze the behaviors of others. I have been trying to keep that in mind. However, other people have independently made the same observations. That is what is concerning.

    Strangely, when our daughter was growing up I never knew her to take much crap off of anyone - although people think she’s sweet and quiet. She took care of a girl who was bullying her when she was in 5th grade - solved the problem with a few swift shin kicks (after, of course, the diplomatic “adult” attempt failed!). She can be witheringly sarcastic. She has even addressed a professor over an unfair grade (I don’t know if I could have done that when I was a college freshman). But I have seen this guy reduce her to tears over really inconsequential stuff. WTF? As I said, I only hope that either I am jumping at shadows or that she wakes up.

  138. AyUaxe Comment by AyUaxe

    Strict Standards: call_user_func_array() expects parameter 1 to be a valid callback, non-static method emotions::filter_text() should not be called statically in /home/misha/public_html/2007/wp-includes/plugin.php on line 59

    Too long a thread for personal counseling, but I just came back for a lunch peek and damn, Kwongdzu, that’s some very classic very nasty psycho stuff. I agree totally with Fuzzhead. If your daughter feels you’re not objective enough to give this maybe future murderer a fair hearing, she needs to go to a shrink or qualified counselor for an objective, professional view. Not ’cause there’s anything wrong with her and not ’cause there’s necessarily anything wrong with someone being a little possessive if they’re madly in love, but that’s not exactly what you’re describing. If the guy can be convinced to go to the pro, too, that would be best for several reasons (mainly, let him exhibit his “tendencies” in front of a neutral witness). Could sell it to daughter as helping him lighten up a little, though I doubt a serious, sneering, controlling egoist is going to lighten up without some heavy duty medication. Most colleges have counseling services on campus and communities, too, through YWCA and other organizations (if she’s embarrassed about going on campus). Hope it all works out.

  139. AyUaxe Comment by AyUaxe

    Strict Standards: call_user_func_array() expects parameter 1 to be a valid callback, non-static method emotions::filter_text() should not be called statically in /home/misha/public_html/2007/wp-includes/plugin.php on line 59

    Kwongdzu, sorry to double up, but seeing JanetMae’s above makes me especially want to suggest that you emphasize to your daughter that once an abusive relationship gets down the road a-piece, it becomes much harder and potentially more violent and abusive to get out of–especially if kids ensue. Your daughter sounds smart and well-raised, so she’s not prone to listen to anyone else. She’s also young and probably in the throws of first love–kinda. Talk aboutcha bittersweet memories!

    In conjunction with or as alternative to pro intervention, maybe one of those “You’re a big smart kid now–it’s your choice. Look at it hard, be as objective as you can be. Look around you at healthy, decent friends and peers. Does this seem right or is something a little pathological going on here? Don’t let fear or pity stand in the way of wisdom and good judgment. I believe you’ll do what’s right and if you need our help or want to talk, we’ll be here.”

    Letting go is hard (agonizing actually), but necessary to put something greater than us (e.g., God, values, moral fiber) in control. God bless us every one!

  140. kwongdzu Comment by kwongdzu

    Strict Standards: call_user_func_array() expects parameter 1 to be a valid callback, non-static method emotions::filter_text() should not be called statically in /home/misha/public_html/2007/wp-includes/plugin.php on line 59

    If you will remember back, this is the guy who came to us (her parents) after knowing her for just shy of two months, to tell us that we were unreasonable in having a curfew on a college-age girl who was living at home (she has since moved to an apartment with a roommate; and, no, we are not so stupidly naive as to think she is not probably sleeping over with him at times). In fact, he said, she should be allowed to spend the night with him, since it would help him to sleep better! As you might imagine, we were both appalled at the arrogance, nerve, and lack of morals of this guy. We told him “No, you will not use our daughter. Get a damn dog!” and showed him the door, but in retrospect we should have gone nuclear on his ass. As I said, we’ve expressed our views to our daughter, but she apparently sees something in him that completely escapes me.

  141. Spartan24 Comment by Spartan24

    Strict Standards: call_user_func_array() expects parameter 1 to be a valid callback, non-static method emotions::filter_text() should not be called statically in /home/misha/public_html/2007/wp-includes/plugin.php on line 59

    Kwongdzu–

    He does sound like some sort of major control freak. I would seriously watch the relationship and assure your daughter that she needs to leave if and when he gets emotionally abusive (dangerously close to this now) or physically abusive. I stayed as long as I did because of my grandparent’s archaic teachings on divorce.

  142. Unregistered Pingback by Feministe » I’m not blaming the victim, I’m just saying that the stupid whore deserved it

    Strict Standards: call_user_func_array() expects parameter 1 to be a valid callback, non-static method emotions::filter_text() should not be called statically in /home/misha/public_html/2007/wp-includes/plugin.php on line 59

    […] values” bloggers have to say about it is, I’m not saying she deserved it, but she pretty much deserved it. First, Dan Riehl: Any murder is tragic; the murder of a pregnant woman is even more so. And […]

  143. kwongdzu Comment by kwongdzu

    Strict Standards: call_user_func_array() expects parameter 1 to be a valid callback, non-static method emotions::filter_text() should not be called statically in /home/misha/public_html/2007/wp-includes/plugin.php on line 59

    AyUaxe, Spartan,& Janet Mae: I think she’ll do the right thing. She always has. This is kind of hard to take, though, because I know there are plenty of guys who’d like to hang out with her and who would probably treat her better. She’s a good person. And she’s nice-looking too (yes, I’m a biased mom, but really she is cute).

    It’s funny. He is clean cut, doesn’t do drugs, dresses well enough, doesn’t have tattoos or piercings, has a job, is educated - all those good things. I am sure she thought we’d love him, and I thought so too. Really, I never expected to NOT like the person she’d choose. But he has no respect for anyone but himself, and his actions have consistently shown this. I don’t think he’s a good choice. Her best friend doesn’t think so either. Husband says it’s best to wait and see, which I guess we pretty much have to do anyway!

  144. Unregistered Pingback by Blog of the Moderate Left » The Killer in Me is the Killer in You

    Strict Standards: call_user_func_array() expects parameter 1 to be a valid callback, non-static method emotions::filter_text() should not be called statically in /home/misha/public_html/2007/wp-includes/plugin.php on line 59

    […] pregnancy himself. And he’s right to. She’s the one who brought it upon herself. Right, insane conservative cobag Misha? But I also will not shut up about the society and culture that led to that situation, a society […]

  145. Spartan24 Comment by Spartan24

    Strict Standards: call_user_func_array() expects parameter 1 to be a valid callback, non-static method emotions::filter_text() should not be called statically in /home/misha/public_html/2007/wp-includes/plugin.php on line 59

    Are you the one that says that women should not be around men? Shame on you. Go get a life.

  146. Sir Guido Cabrone, LC, M.o.P. Comment by Sir Guido Cabrone, LC, M.o.P.

    Strict Standards: call_user_func_array() expects parameter 1 to be a valid callback, non-static method emotions::filter_text() should not be called statically in /home/misha/public_html/2007/wp-includes/plugin.php on line 59

    JanetMae

    “How could I leave him? He NEEDS me!”

    I knew I had forgotten one of the big ones.

    jimmytheclaw

    wow 128 comments is that a record or what

    Not even close. I can think of a couple of threads that went double that.

  147. Unregistered Comment by TheSnarkmistress

    Strict Standards: call_user_func_array() expects parameter 1 to be a valid callback, non-static method emotions::filter_text() should not be called statically in /home/misha/public_html/2007/wp-includes/plugin.php on line 59

    the two scariest things about post-abusive-relationship life, especially when that’s a first relationship, are the over-analysis of every bit of behavior in fear of seeing the same things that lead up to abuse, and the knowledge that you were attracted to someone who could turn into that, and might be thus attracted again. Then, when you’re dating someone, how can you tell if the little things are really signs of abuse to come, or just normal? You don’t really know what normal is. and so you leave them. and you question whether or not that was the right decision. it’s basically a life of brief, shallow, semi-existent relationships that leave you nervous as a cat on a fence.

    considering how complicated relationships are under optimal conditions, why do people add to the complications by dating married people? I’ll never understand that. And why would you want someone who’d cheat on his/her spouse and/or significant other? You know they CAN cheat, and it’s most likely they will, probably again and again - what’s to prevent him/her from cheating on you?

  148. Spartan24 Comment by Spartan24

    Strict Standards: call_user_func_array() expects parameter 1 to be a valid callback, non-static method emotions::filter_text() should not be called statically in /home/misha/public_html/2007/wp-includes/plugin.php on line 59

    I never ended up in another abusive relationship after I divorced my ex. I was engaged to a very controlling man who would have ended up abusive but I ended up the relationship before it could get to that point. I was with my fiance for 2 years before we finally broke up. He was controlling about where I moved when I got an apartment, who I talked to or going to visit my parents.

  149. sig94 Comment by sig94

    Strict Standards: call_user_func_array() expects parameter 1 to be a valid callback, non-static method emotions::filter_text() should not be called statically in /home/misha/public_html/2007/wp-includes/plugin.php on line 59

    *glances at watch*
    Psychochick, time for your meds. Your jubilation at a stiff sentence for killing a dog puts you squarely in the animal activist’s camp.
    Deal with it.

    I’m pretty sure the people up the street with 2 dogs and 3 cats that belong to that big evangelical church love their animals as much as I do mine,

    Yeah and I love pepper and egg omeletes, sausage pizza and soft green budgies too. What the hell does that have to do with anything? Because you love something therefore society must assign extra value to it?

    It’s just not a logical correlation that sentencing these cases has anything to with abortion. Don’t know where on earth you got them from.

    One of the things I do for a living is track sentencing options and I see what is happening across the country. Try “Hate Crimes” or bias crimes legislation on for size. Sound familar?

    As certain crime categories are assigned additional value based on religion, gender, disability, or sexual orientation, the same crimes committed against unprotected person categories become less valued. Those ten year sentences are in the same vein. It is a very dangerous trend. As animals become more valued, humans automatically assume less value. You’re worth more than a dog Psychochick, you as well as every other human being and that is my point. Maybe this explains it better.

  150. Unregistered Comment by TheSnarkmistress

    Strict Standards: call_user_func_array() expects parameter 1 to be a valid callback, non-static method emotions::filter_text() should not be called statically in /home/misha/public_html/2007/wp-includes/plugin.php on line 59

    what IS it with controlling men? I’ve reached the point where they’re out the door at the first sign of wanting to control anything - generally before they have made it to the door!

  151. Unregistered Comment by TheSnarkmistress

    Strict Standards: call_user_func_array() expects parameter 1 to be a valid callback, non-static method emotions::filter_text() should not be called statically in /home/misha/public_html/2007/wp-includes/plugin.php on line 59

    the ability to torture or kill an animal for purposes other than food shows a deep-seated sickness that’s likely to escalate to similar violence toward humans.

  152. kwongdzu Comment by kwongdzu

    Strict Standards: call_user_func_array() expects parameter 1 to be a valid callback, non-static method emotions::filter_text() should not be called statically in /home/misha/public_html/2007/wp-includes/plugin.php on line 59

    Snarkmistress: I don’t know about that. I think you’re right about abusive relationships making a person cautious. However, I feel as though in my case it worked out well. I met a really fine guy, and we’ve been married for 25+ years now. If he had ever pulled any shit, we wouldn’t be. I wouldn’t call this relationship either brief or shallow, and I’m pretty sure we’ll make it until one of us kacks.

    My mom didn’t know what she married, I’m sure. She took us and tried to leave a couple of times, but he tracked us down. During their last couple of years together, he did surprisingly reform - so at least they finished on a high note. However, since he died (24 years ago) she has not dated or remarried, nor does she wish to.

    I have observed some common behaviors in abusive people. One that stands out for me is over-the-top gift giving as an apology for bad behavior. Kind of an abuse/guilt/restitution cycle, if you will.

  153. kwongdzu Comment by kwongdzu

    Strict Standards: call_user_func_array() expects parameter 1 to be a valid callback, non-static method emotions::filter_text() should not be called statically in /home/misha/public_html/2007/wp-includes/plugin.php on line 59

    I dunno, sig. There’s some dogs that are worth more than some humans …

  154. kwongdzu Comment by kwongdzu

    Strict Standards: call_user_func_array() expects parameter 1 to be a valid callback, non-static method emotions::filter_text() should not be called statically in /home/misha/public_html/2007/wp-includes/plugin.php on line 59

    … I mean if you had on one hand a dog who saved a family from a fire vs. Kim Jong Il, for example…

  155. Sir Christopher Comment by Sir Christopher

    Strict Standards: call_user_func_array() expects parameter 1 to be a valid callback, non-static method emotions::filter_text() should not be called statically in /home/misha/public_html/2007/wp-includes/plugin.php on line 59

    excuse me, is the the needlepoint forum?

  156. kwongdzu Comment by kwongdzu

    Strict Standards: call_user_func_array() expects parameter 1 to be a valid callback, non-static method emotions::filter_text() should not be called statically in /home/misha/public_html/2007/wp-includes/plugin.php on line 59

    Why yes! Yes it is … Where’s your fucking embroidery hoop?

  157. LC HJ Caveman82952 Comment by LC HJ Caveman82952

    Strict Standards: call_user_func_array() expects parameter 1 to be a valid callback, non-static method emotions::filter_text() should not be called statically in /home/misha/public_html/2007/wp-includes/plugin.php on line 59

    kwongdzu, after readng your description I got a head full of alarm bells clangin’. This will no doubt become a problem. One of several situations I saw only ended with my friend ended his daughters boyfriend coming over by pointing a shotgun at him through a screen door. But she was stalked. In my mind you can only kill these people. Were my daughter stalked, I would contract him out….or do it myself. But I felt my gut tightening with memories, all of them bad…..take care and keep your eyes open…..

  158. psychochick Comment by psychochick

    Strict Standards: call_user_func_array() expects parameter 1 to be a valid callback, non-static method emotions::filter_text() should not be called statically in /home/misha/public_html/2007/wp-includes/plugin.php on line 59

    sig94
    Well, if you track sentencing, that explains some of your previous posts. You did seem knowledgable in that area.

    Very cheap shot with the meds, by the way.

    The point of the conservatives loving their animals was to rebut your bizarre comment that my concern over animals was to counter my guilt over abortion (?). I was pointing out that conservative people loved their animals, too

    Thanks for your comment that I am more valuable than a dog, although some days I wonder. However, I do not see how a heavy sentence for torturing an animal means that humans are valued less. From your analyses, a stiff sentence for beating a gay man to death means that the beating death of a heterosexual man would not receive as stiff a sentence? That does seem kind of odd to me.

    By the way, I really hate PETA, and I support the Humane Society less since they have been taken over by animal rights activists (real ones).

  159. Emperor Misha I Comment by Emperor Misha I

    Strict Standards: call_user_func_array() expects parameter 1 to be a valid callback, non-static method emotions::filter_text() should not be called statically in /home/misha/public_html/2007/wp-includes/plugin.php on line 59

    Damn, Kwong, I wish I’d hopped into the thread earlier but, as always, I’m late for the party.

    I shouldn’t be butting into other people’s lives, particularly since I could be wrong, but that boyfriend of you daughter’s set off too many alarm bells for me to ignore.

    He’s obviously got control issues, which is a kind way of saying “control freak“, which is one thing if he’s just head over heels in love and afraid that she’ll leave him, but quite another when he’s literally trying to run her life for her.

    He also has obvious respect issues, as proven by his dealings with you, her parents. That’s even worse. If he doesn’t respect the ones who brought her up, how is he ever going to respect her? It’s bad enough to disrespect her friends and try to end her relationship with them, but the fact that he’s disrespecting blood relatives… Not good. Well, unless you’d been serial killers, of course.

    But what really creeps me out is that he seems to be very good at manipulating her emotionally. That’s a HUGE danger sign. At least if he’s doing so deliberately, knowing her reaction, because that suggests to me that he’s really looking to control her in every way he can think of, and that never ends well.

    But, again, I don’t know him, I just don’t like what I’m seeing from what little I know. I don’t like it at all.

  160. Fuzzhead Comment by Fuzzhead

    Strict Standards: call_user_func_array() expects parameter 1 to be a valid callback, non-static method emotions::filter_text() should not be called statically in /home/misha/public_html/2007/wp-includes/plugin.php on line 59

    >From your analyses, a stiff sentence for beating a gay man to death means that the beating death of a heterosexual man would not receive as stiff a sentence? That does seem kind of odd to me.

    That is odd. And immoral. But that’s what “hate crime” legislation does. It privileges one group of trendy victims over another group of less politically correct victims.

  161. sig94 Comment by sig94

    Strict Standards: call_user_func_array() expects parameter 1 to be a valid callback, non-static method emotions::filter_text() should not be called statically in /home/misha/public_html/2007/wp-includes/plugin.php on line 59

    dunno, sig. There’s some dogs that are worth more than some humans …

    I understand the sentiment and am not at odds with the reasoning behind it. I’ve been dealing with two legged mutts for well over thirty years.

    And it’s not that I hate animals. I really don’t. I’m after my kids to feed their fish, birds or whatever they drag into the house. If you are going to assume the responsibility for the care and feeding of another living creature then by God do it or give it to some one who will.

    But once our idiot legislators start making distinctions about people we’re all in danger. As one class is protected, all others come closer to being a subclass. It is dehumanizing and ultimately that subclass is attacked. Why? What the Congress gives today the Congress can also take away tomorrow. These considerations should never have been a subject of legislation, leave it unchangeable in the Constitution for the protection of all.

    Look what happened when babies were classified as fetuses. It happened to the Jews (still happening as we speak) and it is happening to Christians in the Sudan right now. It is human nature to take advantage of a subclass held in low esteem. Western civilization did it to the blacks for centuries. Blacks are still traded as slaves in muslim countries.

    The law of the land must be completely neutral with regard to race, sex, social class, religion, sexual orientation, etc. An assault is an assault, murder is murder, rape is rape - no more and no less for anyone and everyone.

    Many states (like NY) make a distinction between the murder of an on duty police officer (PL section 125.27, Class A-1 Felony - death penalty) and the murder of a civilian (PL section 125.25, Class A-2 Felony - up to life w/o parole) as per NYS PL section 60.06. I believe that is wrong. All life is sacred and all murder perps should swing.

  162. Spartan24 Comment by Spartan24

    Strict Standards: call_user_func_array() expects parameter 1 to be a valid callback, non-static method emotions::filter_text() should not be called statically in /home/misha/public_html/2007/wp-includes/plugin.php on line 59

    Sig–

    I so agree with you on the hate crimes legislation. I have explained it to many liberals who just dont get it. I never thought about laws protecting police officers as being discrimnatory either. It is something to think about.

  163. kwongdzu Comment by kwongdzu

    Strict Standards: call_user_func_array() expects parameter 1 to be a valid callback, non-static method emotions::filter_text() should not be called statically in /home/misha/public_html/2007/wp-includes/plugin.php on line 59

    Thanks, Misha. I don’t criticize him to her any more, since I figure that will just backfire. We have told her that whatever happens in life, the door is always open. A couple of things she has done recently tell me that she is standing up to him more. I am worried that within the year they will move away where she has no connections at all, however.

    You know what’s really kinda funny though? I used to be quiet and shy and a lot like her. Actually, more quiet and polite. In fact, at one time I was a sort of a cute lil’ thang. Didn’t really realize it until I ran across some old photos. I’ve morphed into quite the battle axe! I wonder if he’s ever looked at me and contemplated the possibility that this could be what awaits him down the road? Now THAT makes me chuckle!

  164. Deathknyte Comment by Deathknyte

    Strict Standards: call_user_func_array() expects parameter 1 to be a valid callback, non-static method emotions::filter_text() should not be called statically in /home/misha/public_html/2007/wp-includes/plugin.php on line 59

    DK as a Taliban

    Someone called me a taliban? Or did they call Devils Kitchen a taliban?

  165. Deathknyte Comment by Deathknyte

    Strict Standards: call_user_func_array() expects parameter 1 to be a valid callback, non-static method emotions::filter_text() should not be called statically in /home/misha/public_html/2007/wp-includes/plugin.php on line 59

    Deathknyte:

    So to your way of thinking, anyone who does something stupid, acts immorally, and sleeps with the wrong jerk deserves to DIE?
    Wow, when did you decide to join the Taliban?

    The guy who killed her was a police officer. Do you think she provoked him?
    Yeah, you’re probably right….the bitch and her bastard unborn deserved to die.
    Stupid c**t.

    Here we go. I really should read comments from the top down instead of bottom up. Anyway…

    I am not saying she deserved to die, I am saying that making stupid choices will cost you. In this case tbe price was her life.

    I don’t care if he was a cop or not. The guy is sleaze and does deserve to die, or be castrated. I don’t really care which.

    If I belived that doing something stupid, acting immorally, and sleeping with the wrong jerk warrented death, I would have to execute my sister and probably 80-90% of the population.

    Considering that my sister is still alive and so is most of the population, I would say your assesment of me is wrong.

    Thanks for attributing opinons to me though, expecially considering you have never known me or even met me face to face.

    Its also too bad you decided to pull a democrat on this thread so wont even see this but maybe someone else will.

    Taliban my aristocratic ass.

  166. psychochick Comment by psychochick

    Strict Standards: call_user_func_array() expects parameter 1 to be a valid callback, non-static method emotions::filter_text() should not be called statically in /home/misha/public_html/2007/wp-includes/plugin.php on line 59

    Deathknyte
    As a resident Democrat (not getting rid of me that easily!), I’m sorry you got misinterpreted and vilifiied. I would make a strong guess that she’s having mental issues right now (very knowledgable in that area). If so, you couldn’t really take her comments seriously.

    You better turn in your Taliban membership card, though. (Joking, joking!)

  167. Radical Redneck Comment by Radical Redneck

    Strict Standards: call_user_func_array() expects parameter 1 to be a valid callback, non-static method emotions::filter_text() should not be called statically in /home/misha/public_html/2007/wp-includes/plugin.php on line 59

    You better turn in your Taliban membership card, though. (Joking, joking!)

    I NEVER WILL! (as long as we make sure only brown people get oppressed)

  168. Deathknyte Comment by Deathknyte

    Strict Standards: call_user_func_array() expects parameter 1 to be a valid callback, non-static method emotions::filter_text() should not be called statically in /home/misha/public_html/2007/wp-includes/plugin.php on line 59

    As a resident Democrat (not getting rid of me that easily!)

    Are we getting rid of you? Nobody told me this! Why am I always the last ot know these things?

    I’m sorry you got misinterpreted and vilifiied.

    Don’t worry about it, happens all the time. Can’t fix stupid.

    I would make a strong guess that she’s having mental issues right now (very knowledgable in that area). If so, you couldn’t really take her comments seriously.

    I don’t take much seriously these days.

  169. Unregistered Comment by LC Staci GBOR

    Strict Standards: call_user_func_array() expects parameter 1 to be a valid callback, non-static method emotions::filter_text() should not be called statically in /home/misha/public_html/2007/wp-includes/plugin.php on line 59

    Wow, missed the party.

    I am with Mrs M on this. And I agree with Misha too.

    I have two friends right now, stuck with 2-3 kids apiece from the same guy they never married. Both white, one father Columbian and one black. The kids are gorgeous and look more like mine that theirs. (The old black aka Italian gene dominates my looks).

    I’m coaching them to go back to school and they are both no longer with their men.

    To those outraged here, no one said she deserved to die. But she did put herself in a bad situation. If anything, both of them have said they are more conservative now than ever based on their poor judgement.

    Nerby, my friend got raped in college and the shit beat out of her. Was it her fault, no. Could she have avoided it, yes.

    Another friend got raped and almost beaten to death a couple of years ago. Was it her fault?…No. could she have avoided it? Yes.

    Both those guys are in prison.

    Just recently, my friend got the shit beat out of her, mugged, and almost raped by four Latinos. Same questions.

    I didn’t answer the yes part based on some assumption on my part.

    But EVERY single one of them made a choice that contributed to their situation. I’d rather someone acknowledge it and explain why (which Sparton and my dear Snarkmistress did) that berate people for bringing it up.

    Hopefully, one of those feminists would get it and a light will come on.

  170. psychochick Comment by psychochick

    Strict Standards: call_user_func_array() expects parameter 1 to be a valid callback, non-static method emotions::filter_text() should not be called statically in /home/misha/public_html/2007/wp-includes/plugin.php on line 59

    Staci
    “Hopefully, one of those feminists would get it and a light will come on.”

    Consider me blinded by the light. (seriously–not snarky) Although I was never outraged.

    Your poor friends–bad judgement or not–what an awful thing to go through. I hope they have been able to work through the trauma.

  171. Unregistered Comment by LC Staci GBOR

    Strict Standards: call_user_func_array() expects parameter 1 to be a valid callback, non-static method emotions::filter_text() should not be called statically in /home/misha/public_html/2007/wp-includes/plugin.php on line 59

    I wasn’t talking about the feminists here psycho. Not at all.

    I know of feminists that have gotten kicked off of that site in the trackbacks.

    I just have argued of this whole victim bullshit before. I volunteered as a peer counselor at a rape trauma center after helping my friend in college. I won’t get into why I was able to emphasize with them here where I personally know too many people and it won’t be “anonymous”, but I was put in a derogatory situation before. And while it is scum who perpetrated a crime, many women put themselves into this situation. Not always, but much of the time.

    I am also aware of how abuse can destroy one’s self esteem.

    The difference in what is going on on this thread is this:

    One side is totally blaming the murderer. What is further surprising is not one of these in this bucket even said WTF, this guy had a wife with child and he has another family? Or asking what type of woman would allow this?

    The other side is attacking the last part. While not blaming her or saying she deserved to die, but analyzing a ver valid point.

    My problem is my parents split. And if my father would have sat my ass down when I was younger with the latter point of view and taught me some of their points, I probably would not have gone through as much shit as I did.

    I do hope this guy fries. And I hope somehow, some way, that poor child who survived makes in this world.

    But it is time to teach our girls that it is not okay to go “live and let live”, to have some morals, values and respect…not the feminists bullshit how the “man” keeps them down. THat is a crutch and the biggest crock of shit I’ve ever heard.

  172. Unregistered Comment by LC Staci GBOR

    Strict Standards: call_user_func_array() expects parameter 1 to be a valid callback, non-static method emotions::filter_text() should not be called statically in /home/misha/public_html/2007/wp-includes/plugin.php on line 59

    Thanks for the comments about my friends.

    One (the college one from years back) is learning the hard way. She still is with fucked up men, but then again, she was told she didn’t do anything wrong and was purely the victim. So I’m sure she meets her asshole boyfriends the same way she met her rapist…getting smashed in a bar.

    The other one, since it is recent…is scared to go out. But I can guarantee she won’t be giving strangers rides anymore. We just have to convince her her bf is an ass. He fucks with her fear. Nice, huh? And he hates me.

    My female friends don’t come to me for cuddles and validation of their dysfunction. They come to me for logic and reality based on how I had to change to be where I am. I will tell someone if they are wrong. I wish someone would have done it for me.

  173. kwongdzu Comment by kwongdzu

    Strict Standards: call_user_func_array() expects parameter 1 to be a valid callback, non-static method emotions::filter_text() should not be called statically in /home/misha/public_html/2007/wp-includes/plugin.php on line 59

    Problem is, Staci, you can tell them - but they have to listen.

  174. Nanashi Comment by Nanashi

    Strict Standards: call_user_func_array() expects parameter 1 to be a valid callback, non-static method emotions::filter_text() should not be called statically in /home/misha/public_html/2007/wp-includes/plugin.php on line 59

    But it is time to teach our girls that it is not okay to go “live and let live”, to have some morals, values and respect…not the feminists bullshit how the “man” keeps them down. That is a crutch and the biggest crock of shit I’ve ever heard.

    So much word.

  175. Unregistered Pingback by Choice Words » Blog Archive » Baby Daddies Killing Women & Children

    Strict Standards: call_user_func_array() expects parameter 1 to be a valid callback, non-static method emotions::filter_text() should not be called statically in /home/misha/public_html/2007/wp-includes/plugin.php on line 59

    […] are some truly abhorrent articles and comments about her being a slut and being a “breeder” because of the multi-racial, […]

  176. kwongdzu Comment by kwongdzu

    Strict Standards: call_user_func_array() expects parameter 1 to be a valid callback, non-static method emotions::filter_text() should not be called statically in /home/misha/public_html/2007/wp-includes/plugin.php on line 59

    Clean up on aisle 177! Baldilocks @99 - maybe you can educate this one.

  177. Unregistered Comment by TheSnarkmistress

    Strict Standards: call_user_func_array() expects parameter 1 to be a valid callback, non-static method emotions::filter_text() should not be called statically in /home/misha/public_html/2007/wp-includes/plugin.php on line 59

    even though the world has become a lot smaller, thanks to cheap flights, cheap long distance, the internet, and media outlets, in many ways, people are more isolated. people don’t get to know their neighbors, for the most part. we go through our lives, brushing past people. the voluntary social supports have crumbled (I personally blame it on the rampant narcissism of our selfish culture of instant gratification, but who am I to say?) and young women are, it seems, more vulnerable to predators. Doubtless, much of this is due to the outright stupid decisions many make. However, where are the strong women for them to emulate? Too often, either Mom is too absorbed in her career, or herSELF to devote the time necessary to raise a daughter. The successful career woman is a great role model, but is she available to offer than one on one guidance? And then there’s the doting stay at home mom, who’s involved with everything, but who isn’t glamorous enough or whatever, so daughter dearest will reject her in favor of those nasty skanks on Sex and the City or whatever. Or, she’s a crackwhore, or some aging hippie stuck in the 60s, still entertaining a never-ending string of men.

    As a young woman in this twisted world, and one with some um … unique … interests, it is HARD to figure out what’s right and what’s wrong. We see our friends seemingly getting away with running about scantily clad and drunk in college,seemingly free, seemingly having a blast, only to find out a few short years later that they, too, were attacked. Undeservedly. Truly, unprovokedly. But I honestly don’t have many friends who don’t have some sort of horror story involving men. It seems the only places to go out are the sorts of places where it’s easiest to find oneself in a dangerous situation. The movie theaters where I live have been taken over by gangs, literally - so going to movies absent a large group isn’t wise. When we go to the bars, keeping an eye on the little frat boys, suspicious of rohypnol or GHB, that’s not exactly a place to stay out of trouble. For a girl, going ANYWHERE public alone after dark isn’t wise.

    And that’s without getting into the situation of relationships with the boys we shouldn’t get near.

    where was I going with this? it’s a subject with too many angles to address coherently, I suppose.

  178. kwongdzu Comment by kwongdzu

    Strict Standards: call_user_func_array() expects parameter 1 to be a valid callback, non-static method emotions::filter_text() should not be called statically in /home/misha/public_html/2007/wp-includes/plugin.php on line 59

    Snarkmistress: I’ve been thinking about this. On the one hand, you have an anything-goes, liberal lifestyle - which encourages debauchery (sexual impulses are harmless and spontaneous - go for it and have fun!) and is therefore unsafe, because it denies the reality that some people will spin out of control. At the other extreme, you have repressive theocracy (fundamental Islam), which believes that sexual impulses are evil, and must be monitored and punished. Anything that might even hint at the erotic must be severely curtailed and tightly controlled, because humans are seen as weak slaves to their desires. As we have seen repeatedly, this view frequently has deadly consequences, and everyone suffers for the transgressions that an individuals might hypothetically commit.

    The common denominator in both cases is the absence of recognition of personal self-control and responsibility. That is what is being advocated here as the sensible approach to life - a midground between hedonism and government-controlled intimacy (now that is oxymoronic). As with many things (drinking, eating, finances), moderation is the path to the best outcome. But don’t expect the people on the extremes to understand this.

  179. kwongdzu Comment by kwongdzu

    Strict Standards: call_user_func_array() expects parameter 1 to be a valid callback, non-static method emotions::filter_text() should not be called statically in /home/misha/public_html/2007/wp-includes/plugin.php on line 59

    Damn, I meant individual … I should bother to proof.

  180. Unregistered Pingback by Grouchy’s Liberaltopia™ » Danish Pastry - Beat Up By Girls

    Strict Standards: call_user_func_array() expects parameter 1 to be a valid callback, non-static method emotions::filter_text() should not be called statically in /home/misha/public_html/2007/wp-includes/plugin.php on line 59

    […] “conservative values” bloggers have to say about it is, I’m not saying she deserved it, but she pretty much deserved it…Case in point: Emporer Misha I, who I think might be one of the most disgusting human beings […]

  181. Unregistered Comment by TheSnarkmistress

    Strict Standards: call_user_func_array() expects parameter 1 to be a valid callback, non-static method emotions::filter_text() should not be called statically in /home/misha/public_html/2007/wp-includes/plugin.php on line 59

    instead of a culture of instant gratification (and scratching the sexual itch on everything and everyone is a prime example of that gone wrong), a culture of personal responsibility would be nice. It’s impossible to have a non-judgmental life. Everything we do, we judge the pros and the cons, even if we don’t know what they really are, and then make a decision. I don’t think most of us, even those who can’t take care of themselves, fly by the seat of their pants on every decision. It’s like Judge Learned Hand’s formula for quasi-delictual (negligent tort) liability - you weigh the risk of injury against the burden of not taking the risk. The saddest thing is how we cripple the youth by convincing them there is no risk of injury, which feeds into the “it won’t happen to me” attitude of adolescence - therefore, they can’t perform the balancing test properly, because the risk seems so low, and the burden is not getting to go out and have fun, which is a HIGH burden for any kid to bear.

    Why do you think there’s such a high mortality rate among the younger generation of Kennedys (and many other very influential and powerful families)? They’re brought up to think the rules don’t apply to them. When they get into trouble with the law, they get out of it. However, certain laws, like gravity, can’t be paid off. They don’t learn that the reason for these laws is to keep them safe. So, when they want to ski drunk, they do - after all, someone in the family will get them out of the ticket and a ticket’s only money, anyway. And then the law of gravity takes hold, and they hit a tree, and they die. Because no money in the world, and no amount of political clout, will make fatal impact with a tree non-fatal. And then there’s flying without instruments on a foggy night when you have no experience flying without instruments. People who understand the laws of nature know why this isn’t wise. Plane + Ground = Dead Pilot in too many cases. But the only penalty they’d see is a fine. And then, because of hubris and a lack of personal responsibility, an entire family dies.

    The simple fact is, there are predators out there, people who look completely normal, lead seemingly safe lives, who have no outward signs of the disgusting monster within, except they do a few things that in a civilized society aren’t considered moral, even if they are legal.

  182. Unregistered Pingback by the beth zone » Blog Archive » Flea Collar Entitlement Act of 2007 Dept.

    Strict Standards: call_user_func_array() expects parameter 1 to be a valid callback, non-static method emotions::filter_text() should not be called statically in /home/misha/public_html/2007/wp-includes/plugin.php on line 59

    […] Misha’s post was arguably heavy on the moralizing … as well as starting with a statement that he’d decided it was time to p!ss off a lot of people … but his key points were not about immorality but amorality, namely that nothing seems to trigger any value judgment anymore: Does her adulterous ways and p!ss-poor decision making in any way excuse what happened to her? Of course it doesn’t, and I hope and pray that Cutts, if he’s proven guilty, is kicked out of this world and straight to Hell, courtesy of the State. I’d like it even more if we could dispense with the niceties of “humane executions” and perform them in a fashion more befitting of the crime, but as long as he stops stealing oxygen, I’ll be content. […]