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Seems like even the useful idiots of the MSM, had to extract their tongues from Gorebot’s anus long enough to point out the obvious:

Earth Underwhelmed By Environment Pop Extravaganza

Previous Imperial intelligence indicated the much-ballyhood event was being canceled (at some locations) due to lack of ticket sales and shifted to smaller venues, even we expected 1000 point font headlines proclaiming a massive victory for Mother Gaia. But we were wrong, and delightfully so.

They rocked the world, but as the clean-up at nine climate change gigs around the globe begins, many wonder if the galaxy of pop stars did much to change it.

In other words, after the bong hits wore off, most realized their plan to save the world went unnoticed by anyone outside of the Church of Gore.

U.S. and British media were generally underwhelmed on Sunday by Live Earth, the mega-concert organized by former U.S. vice president and green campaigner Al Gore, which, though built on the model of Live Aid and Live 8, created a less positive buzz. Emph Mine

Oh now that is a shame, they couldn’t even get a good buzz at the concerts, other than the snores during the ‘informative’ breaks.

In Germany, however, newspapers were more upbeat about Saturday’s gigs designed to pressure leaders to sign a new treaty by 2009 that would cut global warming pollution by 90 percent in rich nations and more than half worldwide by 2050.

Slow news day in Deutschland obviously or maybe the press-box served the best brats and beer.

Several articles examined the green credentials of artists on the day, including Madonna, whose annual “carbon footprint” was estimated at around 100 times the average Briton’s.

The News of the World tabloid, Britain’s biggest-selling newspaper, detailed estimates of Madonna’s carbon emissions from nine houses, a fleet of cars, a private jet and the Confessions tour, calling her a “climate-change catastrophe.”

The Sunday Telegraph quoted U.S. reports of her alleged financial links to companies accused of being major polluters.

More proof that the left eats it’s own young. Not content with one of the actual supporters of the Cause™, they gleefully turn on them. Where’s a good Offset Salesman when you need one?

Her spokeswoman in Britain was not immediately available for comment, but in a statement appearing in the Independent on Sunday, her New York spokeswoman said:

“Madonna’s agreeing to sing at the Live Earth Event is merely one of the first steps in her commitment towards being environmentally responsible.”

The second step being to classify her douche water as bio-hazard waste.

The negative headlines took some gloss off Madonna’s widely praised appearance at Wembley Stadium in London, where she sang her specially written anthem “Hey You” before a raunchy performance of three of her biggest hits.

Raunchy and Madonna in the same paragraph is rather redundant isn’t it?

The New York Times’ online edition on Sunday featured a small picture of the event and a headline linking to “Artsbeat Blog,” and in Britain only the Independent on Sunday made anything more than a fleeting reference on its front page.

You know you’ve bombed when the Constipated Gray Lady, can’t even give you a glowing review.

But in Germany, where Snoop Dogg was among the acts at the Hamburg gig, Live Earth dominated headlines.

“The bottom line is that if nothing else, the issue of climate protection was a lot of fun for two billion people for one day,” wrote Bild am Sonntag, Germany’s best-selling Sunday newspaper.

Two Billion in Hamburg? We need to purchase the distribution rights to whatever they’re ingesting at the Sonntag.

Organizers say that in addition to the tens of thousands of fans at the gigs, the television, radio and internet audience could be as large as two billion.

Commentators noted the difficulty in marrying pop music with serious themes like the environment.

What’s the matter gansta-rappers and sluts don’t have the gravitas to carry your message to anyone with a few functional neurons ?

“Mixing music and a serious message gives concert a clunky rhythm,” was the Washington Post’s description of the Wembley gig, arguably the biggest lineup on the day that featured Red Hot Chili Peppers, Metallica and the Foo Fighters.

Performances were interspersed with long gaps, some of them filled by short films on environmental themes.

Such brilliant marketing strategy, load the stage with has-beens and losers, charge your victims exorbitantly and then treat them to the clips of “An Incontinent Truth”. You’re lucky most of the fans remained conscious and the organizers having to pay for the stretcher-bearers to haul them out afterwards.

Many performers were “on message,” calling on crowds from Sydney and Tokyo to New York and Rio de Janeiro to cut down on their personal carbon dioxide emissions and recycle.

Hmm…that’s interesting, last we heard a court injunction had been obtained for the event on Copacabana Beach. Maybe they found a Starbuck’s or abandoned truck-bed somewhere.

Yet U.S. comedian Chris Rock expressed the kind of disbelief shared by many on the day that Live Earth would make a lasting difference, even if he was only joking:

“I pray that this event ends global warming the same way that Live Aid ended world hunger,” he said in London.

It’s not joking, you moron, it’s satire and rather good at that.

So much for the Al Gore, Rock-Star and Eco-Warrior image.

177 Responses to “The Great Goreacle Gig of 2007”
  1. hOOt Gibson Comment by hOOt Gibson

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    Political Bullshit served up by a fat has-been political Bullshit Artist, for stoned dupes and leftist losers.

    hOOt

  2. Unregistered Comment by dasbow

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    They left out a wonderful piece of information. Apparently, the Gore Effect works remotely as well. Concert organizers in Johannesburg blamed the poor turnout on the first snow in 25 years. They claim Global Wormening as the culprit, but we know better.

  3. Unregistered Comment by dasbow

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    Hmmm. The link didn’t show up. Sorry, but I’m not much good at teh Intertubes.

    http://www.contactmusic.com/news.nsf/article/live%20earth%20johannesburg%20officials%20blame%20climate%20change%20for%20poor%20turn-out_1036572

  4. LC SkyeChild Comment by LC SkyeChild

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    And think of ALL THE POLLUTION these people caused flying around the world for their stupid concerts. Mope is good, but I bet even HE couldn’t produce enough carbon credits to cover it all.

    These performers make MILLIONS of bucks. If they are so concerned, let them write out a check. With a “donation” here or there from even just a few of these performers, we could settle world debt.

  5. Unregistered Comment by CKO1986

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    Concert organizers in Johannesburg blamed the poor turnout on the first snow in 25 years.

    Snow in Johannesburg? I didn’t even think that was possible.

  6. LC SkyeChild Comment by LC SkyeChild

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    Ack. I just dropped in to Liberaltopia. Those guys aren’t even CLEVER, let alone funny…

  7. Unregistered Comment by dasbow

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    Snow in Johannesburg? I didn’t even think that was possible.

    Never underestimate the power of The Goreacle.

  8. LC Wil Comment by LC Wil

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    LC SkyeChild:

    And think of ALL THE POLLUTION these people caused flying around the world for their stupid concerts. Mope is good, but I bet even HE couldn’t produce enough carbon credits to cover it all.

    I heard a report on the radio whilst driving home that the direct impact to the environment of this “concert” (counting stars flying in on private 747s, electricity used at the concerts, attendees driving / flying to the events, and electricity used to view at home, etc.) amounted to 78,500 TONS of carbon in the atmosphere.

    Isn’t that on the same order of offset one would obtain by planting trees on every square foot of, like, SATURN?

    Oh, and on top of that, in the Great Britain venuse alone, they have picked up (so far - they are still working) 1000 tons of trash, most of which is non-recyclable.

    Could this have been more ate up if they were actually trying to make pollution?

    Ha, Ha! :)

  9. Spartan24 Comment by Spartan24

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    Stupid whiny celebrities… Repeat after me… do as I say not as I do, do as I say not as I do.

    While they want us to not wipe our asses or use napkins at the dinner table they are flying around the world using private jets.

  10. Unregistered Comment by martywake

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    Interestingly, though not suprisingly, the very same people that are trying to scare the hell out of us with “Global Warming” were the same people accusing the Bush administration of fearmongering over global terrorism.

    nest thing you know they will be telling us that cow farts are bad for the enviornment. :)

  11. Unregistered Comment by fporretto

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    The “Live Earth” spectacles are a perfect example of a mummery. They’re absurd, false, ostentatious, and have no effect except to annoy persons with taste and good sense, though they do impress the credulous who are already “on board” with the Cause.

  12. LC Cheapshot911, Dept. of Redneck Tech Comment by LC Cheapshot911, Dept. of Redneck Tech

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    2009 that would cut global warming pollution by 90 percent in rich nations and more than half worldwide by 2050

    ROFLMFAO!!

    Then when these “rich nations” get industrially castrated, (china won’t be there) and their prosperity evaporates,,just who in gaia is going to pick up the welfare tab for all their benefactee’s,,, their donation dependant’s.. ya know,,,the one’s given a by?
    Those poor schmucks, having enjoyed the all the irrisponsibility welfare enables can saviour the balmy fresh breezes as they starve to death.

  13. Unregistered Comment by allen29palms

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    I’ve questions regarding 2 Net issues:
    A. How much energy went into anything involving these events? How long will it take to undo this huge loss?
    And, energy expended per the laws of physics, can never be reclaimed. So this makes this get together, just the opposite of what was preached!
    B. Money trail. Who made what, who payed what, who got wealthier? I want to know what bucks went to ACTUALLY being “Charitable”.
    Wanna bet as with most of this PC crap the accountability of this stunt will be as “Smoke-on-the Water”!
    What a crock of inverse hooey!

  14. jaybear Comment by jaybear

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    Never underestimate the power of The Goreacle.

    that’s ‘cuz he’s Sooper Serial

  15. LC MoMinuteMan Comment by LC MoMinuteMan

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    I read that the Beeb version of this scam lost viewers to TENNIS!!!

    How shitty is your program when you lose viewers to tennis???

  16. Emperor Misha I Comment by Emperor Misha I

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    Organizers say that in addition to the tens of thousands of fans at the gigs, the television, radio and internet audience could be as large as two billion.

    BWAHAHAHAHAHA! I read elsewhere that the viewing audience in Britain, when measured at its peak (once tennis, cricket and the weekly weather forecast wasn’t stealing viewers from it) was about 4 million.

    But hey, it’s close. Only 1,996 million to go before you hit 2 billion.

    Maybe if they include the number of sane people who have been using YouTube clips to ridicule the narcissistic airhead extravaganza?

    Afterthought: Perhaps the tiny audience had something to do with one of the Goreacle’s featured “artists”, Akon, failing to perform his signature stunt of dry humping a barely teenaged girl on stage?

  17. LCBrendan Comment by LCBrendan

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    In Australia

    Thousands DROVE in their cars, they didn’t take the trains
    19 drug arrests
    Tons of garbage(they are STILL cleaning it up)
    Enough energy used to power a hospital for six months
    More noise in one night than an airport makes in a MONTH

    Once that figure is arrived at, with a buffer amount added for any underreporting, equivalent carbon offsets will be purchased. And organisers say they will avoid problematic offsets based on growing trees, opting instead for schemes such as installing energy-efficient light bulbs in developing countries.

    Purchasing offsets? Isn’t that like buying indulgences?

    Live Earth was a colossal wankfest.

    Net effect

    ZERO.

  18. SoCalOilMan, LC Comment by SoCalOilMan, LC

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    Watching CNN headline News this morning, I listened to the promoters reviewing this as the biggest humanitarian event ever.

    My understanding of this setup, was it was just to raise “awareness” (yeah, right). I think the bozo’s that financed this debacle thought they could cash in, like the carbon offset scheme, and get a tax write off on top of it.

    At least they actually lost the investment they’re going to claim.

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    In proof that hippies could organise a piss up in a brewery they completely stuffed even the selling of beer at the Australian concert.
    Apparently one of the singers did the usual vacuous “How you all going” to the crowd and recieved the reply “Sober”.
    Oh and $4.50 for a can of coke as well.

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    I actually watched a few minutes of this debacle. Melissa Etheridge was “performing”, and when she went into her spiel about biodiesel, I almost hurled. So for five minutes, I contributed to the “carbon debt” incurred from watching that dreck. Hey Al, sue me.

  21. Tsubaki Shijuro (formerly Fuzzhead) Comment by Tsubaki Shijuro (formerly Fuzzhead)

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    Concerts for causes are about as effective as hunger strikes. There’s a lot of self-congratulation amongst the participants, but nobody that didn’t care in the first place cares afterward either.

    It’s especially futile when the cause that the concert is for is essentially a fairytale.

    And when everybody performing really, really sucks.

  22. SoCalOilMan, LC Comment by SoCalOilMan, LC

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    My “carbon offset” is the big friggen tree in the corner of my front yard that is pushing two walls over,killing my meager space of lawn and the CITY will not let me trim back adequately (or just dynamite the bastard out).

    Right now it’s in it’s go to twig phase, February to June it’s full and beautiful, June and July, it’s dropping all it’s leaves, July to February, it’s just a an ugly mass of branches that scratches the roof of any car parking in front of my house…although that’s not awalys a bad thing. Isn’t the spot in front of my house mine?

  23. LC HJ Caveman82952 Comment by LC HJ Caveman82952

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    Now ain’t it grand? Those environmentally sensitive I care crowd in their provate jets…….and it still flops………

  24. LC Mrs. M-ITT™ Comment by LC Mrs. M-ITT™

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    A bunch of over paid, spoiled rotten, egotistical has beens flying in on their private jets and spewing more crap into the air and more trash on the ground while those stupid enough to spend money attending get more stoned than they already are and GoreButt gets to be Princess For A Day.

    Ain’t it sweet?

  25. SoCalOilMan, LC Comment by SoCalOilMan, LC

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    I’m curious about how much of this trash they’re picking up was just thrown on the ground? Did they have enough recycle bins at the arena?

    I was raised “pack 8it in, pack it out”. I smoke, and I very, very seldom throw a butt on the ground. I’m usually getting chastised for the butts in my pocket when the wife goes to wash them. Personally I think she’s just pissed cause she didn’t find money.

  26. LC JackBoot IC/A-OBR Comment by LC JackBoot IC/A-OBR

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    #4 SkyeChild-

    Mope is good, but I bet even HE couldn’t produce enough carbon

    Mope doesn’t produce CO2, he converts it (biologically) to methane via massive quantities of malted-beverage liquid ingestion. Trust me, he’s can produce offsets that rival many turd-world countries based on methane production/conversion.

  27. LC HJ Caveman82952 Comment by LC HJ Caveman82952

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    I’m curious about how much of this trash they’re picking up was just thrown on the ground?

    Trash? Surely you jest?..The enlightened ones don’t lift their fingers picking up trash…that’s for the lower orders, those such as you and I…..but I’ll bet they wipe their asses. The I care crowd remains exempt from common human considerations, such as picking up after yourself, and yes, wiping your ass. On second thought, I won’t bet they wipe. If has been whores and gangsta is the best they can present……..one asshole I spoke with said it’s cool to be green. I asked him if he has ever been seasick. I have……once. He didn’t make the connection. Seasick is green, as in gangrene. These people rapidly becoming a sad testament to their socialist cause. May it continue in this fashion, I wish them every success. As for the Goracle, is it just me or is he putting on weight?

  28. LC 0311 crunchie Comment by LC 0311 crunchie

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    Why is it that whenever I think of this sham, I see a maniacal Gorebot sitting in a Dr.Evil type lair laughing diabolically as he flips the switch to send out the mind control rays from the gap Madonnas teeth? Or the other gap she has, either one is large enough.

    What a joke.

  29. LC SkyeChild Comment by LC SkyeChild

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    SoCalOilMan,

    Isn’t the spot in front of my house mine?

    According to the libtards, nothing is YOURS. Didn’t you get the memo?

  30. Spartan24 Comment by Spartan24

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    I mentioned to my husband about how much trash was generated by this event. It would have been better to have a “pack it in/pack it out” policy but since the almighty dollar rules, 4.50 cokes were the rule.

  31. Unregistered Trackback by Can't See the Center

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    Al’s Little Green Book…

    If the future’s totalitarian, let’s at least go with the guy who’s finished in half the time….

  32. ohio right wing nut Comment by ohio right wing nut

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    What is wrong with everyone ? Don’t you know Manbearpig is right? We are all gonna die if we don’t solve globalworming and give all our money to the U.N., I mean it was 93 degrees today,in the summer to boot,can’t you all see the problems we are facing?/sarcasm off/
    No seriously the way we solve global worming?

    NUKE THE SUN

  33. LC SkyeChild Comment by LC SkyeChild

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    Ohio…

    OMG…93 degrees in the middle of summer! What IS this world coming to?

    Gore’s an idiot.

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    ohio right wing nut,

    NUKE THE SUN

    Why am I fearing one of those screw looses would actually do it. Brrrrrrr!! Think happy thoughts, think happy thoughts. Ahhh, just thought of the truth dawning on Gore, and it was wonderful. :)

  35. LC SkyeChild Comment by LC SkyeChild

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    It’s obvious that the left hasn’t considered the consequences of “controlling” the weather and “determining” what the temps should be (as if anyone could). The potato and apple crops NEED the cooler temps of the Pacific northwest; the orange groves NEED the warmer temps of Florida. WHen you eliminate the cooler temps, you eliminate the cooler weather crops.

    When you “stabilize” everything, you get an increase of bugs and diseases. But…gotta have constant temps yearlong and worldwide, dontcha know.

  36. TheCount Comment by TheCount

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    Well, according to Drudge…Ol’RFKjr is calling all representatives and senators who do not believe in Global Wormening…are traitors committing Treason.
    RFK IS A DOUCHE

    However, Etheridge aside, it was nonmusicians at this concert who made the most passionate pleas about demanding action for the environment. “Get rid of all these rotten politicians that we have in Washington, who are nothing more than corporate toadies,” said Robert F. Kennedy Jr., the environmentalist author, president of Waterkeeper Alliance and Robert F. Kennedy’s son, who grew hoarse from shouting. “This is treason. And we need to start treating them as traitors.”

    This is getting too hilarious. I wonder what he means by “start treating them as traitors.” If it is the same way they treat Murthafucker, Reid, and Nancy Lugosi…then what do us “traitors” have to worry about. These Libtards have absolutely ZERO lives…if they did, they would not be acting as if someone keeps shitting in their cereal every morning. Fuckheads.

  37. LC SkyeChild Comment by LC SkyeChild

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    leoni2,

    Something I read the other day says that humans are hogging the sunlight, and that we should figure out how to exist with less…

  38. ohio right wing nut Comment by ohio right wing nut

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    But don’t ya know them pepole r so much smarter then us bible thumpin, gun rack in our pickup trucks tabaca chewin hill jacks ? They were put on this planet to save us from ourselves. We are to stupid all we do is handle snakes, talk in tounges , and go to the gun range. Oh yeah we hates them damned coloreds too….

  39. LC SkyeChild Comment by LC SkyeChild

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    The day I take ANY advice from a Kennedy is the day I let y’all use me for target practice.

  40. ohio right wing nut Comment by ohio right wing nut

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    Skychild
    Since guns are evil and no one should have them, can I just throw rocks at you?

  41. LC SkyeChild Comment by LC SkyeChild

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    What? You a muslim or something?

  42. LC SkyeChild Comment by LC SkyeChild

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    AND Ohio went for Bush last time…proves y’all are stupid. 8-P

  43. ohio right wing nut Comment by ohio right wing nut

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    No but I heard if you are not Muslim you aint Shite

  44. LC SkyeChild Comment by LC SkyeChild

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    I noticed over at Libtoejamapedia, DJ seems to posit the idea that Bush stole the election. The earth is flat, DJ, and Bush was responsible for 9/11, and there were no moon landings, either.

  45. Unregistered Comment by leoni2

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    SkyeChild,

    Something I read the other day says that humans are hogging the sunlight, and that we should figure out how to exist with less…

    Excuse me, I need to leave the room for a moment. Exits room. Bwahahahahahahahahaha!!! Reenters room. Thank you for the laugh of the day, and what in the name of weed was that jackass smoking when he wrote that? I mean, I think the plants and trees would like to have a second, third and fourth opinion on that.

  46. ohio right wing nut Comment by ohio right wing nut

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    Yeah my bad on that one. I talked everyone into voting for Vincente Foxes love slave.

  47. LC SkyeChild Comment by LC SkyeChild

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    Here, leoni2, just for you:

    http://tinyurl.com/yvk4rn

  48. ohio right wing nut Comment by ohio right wing nut

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    well everyone who’s still awake too many frostie COORS LIGHT tonight and it’s late . so see you all tomorrow gotta get up early for work .

  49. LC SkyeChild Comment by LC SkyeChild

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    heading towards my bed shortly, as well. Till tomorrow.

  50. Unregistered Comment by leoni2

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    SkyeChild,

    I’d read the article. My comment? Bwahahahahahahahaha! Excuse me while I laugh myself sick. What exactly are these scientist going to suggest we do about it? We kill ourseleves? Sorry, but I refuse to go into that good night just to make them happy, thank you. They can all go kiss my…

  51. LC Mrs. M-ITT™ Comment by LC Mrs. M-ITT™

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    Ahhh, just thought of the truth dawning on Gore, and it was wonderful.

    IMO Gorebutt KNOWS the truth. He knows this shit is all a scam and he’s milking it for all it’s worth. He’s well aware that there are enough dumbfuck idiots out there just begging for a feel good cause and stupid enough to believe anything he farts out his ass, and willing to make him rich off their idiocy.

    Plus I’m sure he’s just tickled pink that he can get as much if not more press than his old butt buddy Bubba and his shrew spouse. He never did like being Second Jackass.

  52. Deathknyte Comment by Deathknyte

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    Plus I’m sure he’s just tickled pink that he can get as much if not more press than his old butt buddy Bubba and his shrew spouse. He never did like being Second Jackass.

    Which explains why he keeps stringing the left along on his “not running” statements. If he did run, they would turn on him like they did in 2004. He knows this, is enjoying the attention he has now, and if he started making a serious effort at running he couldnt do the global worming thing due to lack of time. So I think he is taking what he can get now and will come up with something else loony when the whole shtick runs out in a few years.

  53. Unregistered Comment by leoni2

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    Mrs. M,

    IMO Gorebutt KNOWS the truth. He knows this shit is all a scam and he’s milking it for all it’s worth. He’s well aware that there are enough dumbfuck idiots out there just begging for a feel good cause and stupid enough to believe anything he farts out his ass, and willing to make him rich off their idiocy.

    All I can say is that those idiots deserve what they get by not having enough sense to check to make sure that they’re not being sold a bill of goods. But, I can say one thing. I hate to be in Gore’s shoes when folks realize that they’d been had. I hear that folk like to go around with pitchforks and torches when that happen. :)

  54. psychochick Comment by psychochick

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    leoni2
    Not to be disagreeable, but how does a disagreement over a science model become a “scam?” (not that you are the one who said that)

    Not to be a “dumbfuck idiot”, it’s many top-notch scientists who are concerned (from lots of papers with lots of scary data) and the National Academy of Sciences, not just stupid kids who are fawning over Al Gore. That doesn’t mean the theory correct, but it has more credibility than just Al Gore. Actually haven’t seen the movie. I don’t have any agenda, except great concern if the model is true. (I really hope it’s wrong!!) NOTE: I say “model” and “theory”–not “truth”

    as far as being 93, it’s an average temp over the course of a year that’s relevant.

    As predicted, it’s been hotter out here with mega-drought and many fires. Maybe it’s just an unusual year. Time will tell. If the Mediterranean is doing the same thing, I start to worry. Different areas would see different effects–some drought, some more rain.

    SoCal
    What sort of fascist dictatorship do you live in that you can’t cut down a tree, particularly if it’s menacing you? We live in Cal, and we can cut down trees if we want to (don’t want to)

  55. The Major Comment by The Major

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    Damn, Psychochick! Do you really want me to jump into this one, sweetie? I sure as hell respect your intellect and training, but I cannot possibly respect the intellectual honesty of a group of scientists that actively squelch opposing views! Have these “responsible” peer-reviewed scientists made any attempt to tone down the Goracle’s claim that the verdict is in and that there is no longer any need for discussing opposing interpretations or research? I have heard at least a dozen climatologists and other scientists state essentially the same thing when interviewed or participating in a documentary! This is NOT scientific method, this is a scientific kangaroo court!

    By the way, the sign of a true Renaissance Woman is the little Apple Computer and Safari logos at the bottom of her postings!

  56. psychochick Comment by psychochick

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    Major
    Hi,

    I think we expressed ourselves thoroughly before. You were not the target audience. I know there are opposing views; I thought of it as healthy debate. Actually, I will look into whether they have commented on Gore’s over-zealousness. (I shouldn’t admit it, but the pile of unread “Science” magazines is frightfully large–probably came up in there somewhere.) Actually, didn’t want to get in huge debates, but got annoyed about all the idiot comments. I generally don’t repeat the same posts like a parrot. To be honest, my ulcer acts up when I post on global warming.

    My main question to you is are you making fun of me because of my highly superior MacIntosh computer? :)

  57. Wishbone Comment by Wishbone

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    BWAHAHAHAHAHA! I read elsewhere that the viewing audience in Britain, when measured at its peak (once tennis, cricket and the weekly weather forecast wasn’t stealing viewers from it) was about 4 million.

    Hehe, that’s a generous figure Misha. The spectacle was running on BBC2 all day with an average viewing figure of just 900,000. When they switched coverage over to BBC1, the figure hit it’s peak of just 2.7 million.

    Not to miss an opportunity to collect information collated for free and with little effort, the National Statistics Office took the opportunity to re-advise its figures on the number of 9-13 year olds currently living in Britain

  58. psychochick Comment by psychochick

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    Major
    I’m so sorry–I am tired and ill (low blood issues–needed an immediate transfusion), and I totally missed that you have a MacIntosh, too! Should have caught that–consider it a fit of idiocy. Do you have the Pentium chip? I do not and have been afraid to try Tiger.

    Being highly compulsive (or perhaps just psycho), I’ve searched the archives at 3:30 AM to check on commentary about Al Gore in the premier scientific literature. “Science” says that the global warming theory is still science and not truth, but that the science is getting better and better and better. Although it’s pretty complicated and a bit much for me right now. There is a possibility of some cooling, too. There really wasn’t much about the film.

    Science 9 February 2007:
    Vol. 315. no. 5813, pp. 754 - 757
    can’t link–you need to be a subscriber or have access to a library

    There was a 1998 article in Science with most climatologists agreeing with Gore’s assessment of increasing temps, unless there was an El Nino the next year.

    PNAS only had 1 article on him, and it had to do with mathematical modeling that showed the Republicans dominated more than half the country in 2004. I’m sure that is not a shock.

  59. Robohobo Comment by Robohobo

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    psychochick - Do the research. Stop being lazy. Follow this one for some starting references.

    Christopher Landsea, formerly a research meteorologist with Hurricane Research Division of Atlantic Oceanographic & Meteorological Laboratory at NOAA, is now the Science and Operations …

    The model that predicts the ‘hockey stick’ temp graph is highly flawed. If the model is fed ‘white noise’ data it still gives the same graph which means that the model is way too tweaked to offer real results, it is tweaked to offer the desired results which is fraudulent science. Not bad science, fraudulent.

    I make my own pledge:

    I will never, ever buy any music put out by people stupid enough to buy into this kind of crap. I think I am pretty safe as I never listen to Madonna or any of the others.

    The Hobo

  60. LC NCLivingBrit Comment by LC NCLivingBrit

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    “I pray that this event ends global warming the same way that Live Aid ended world hunger,” he said in London.

    Now -that- is a joke. I’m pretty sure the net affect of this boondoggle and Live Aid was some smug feelings on the part of the participants, a brief rise in donations and fuck all actual change.

    I think I am pretty safe as I never listen to Madonna or any of the others.

    Yeah, sort of a shame the Foo Fighters have to go on the blacklist, they’re not bad at all.

  61. WayneB Comment by WayneB

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    NUKE THE SUN

    Why am I fearing one of those screw looses would actually do it.

    It would be SO hilarious for someone to do that. They would get a serious dose of humble pie. A 100 megaton blast (about 6,000 times more powerful than the ones we dropped in Japan) works out to approximately one billionth of the Sun’s output for one second. With a proper telescope, you could probably see the flash, because it would make a bright spot, but you couldn’t measure the overall variation from here.

  62. WayneB Comment by WayneB

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    Oops, that was supposed to be a nested blockquote. It showed up correctly in Preview, don’t know what happened after I posted it.

  63. LCBrendan Comment by LCBrendan

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    I’m so sorry–I am tired and ill (low blood issues–needed an immediate transfusion), and I totally missed that you have a MacIntosh, too!

    Robo: gently please. Psycho is a lady, and if we have to find a few links, it’s no big deal.

    Softly, softly, huh?

  64. LC Mrs. M-ITT™ Comment by LC Mrs. M-ITT™

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    how does a disagreement over a science model become a “scam?

    Here’s where the scam is PC.

    Carbon offsets are the scam by which greenies from Bon Jovi to Al Gore justify their energy-guzzling. Pay somebody to plant a tree in Mozambique, and your private jet is cleared for take-off.

    As Bon Jovi said: “We wrote a check, we took care of our footprint and raised awareness.” No fuss, no muss, no guilty conscience, no hardship or sacrifice.

  65. LC Mrs. M-ITT™ Comment by LC Mrs. M-ITT™

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    Damn…hit the submit key before I was through…

    In other words..these “caring” performers are willing to simply write a check so they can keep on living their opulent lifestyles without a guilty conscience, all the while berating the rest of us lowly humans to sacrifice our way of lives over what is a NATURAL OCCURANCE, so that they don’t have to. Just who is getting the money and just who makes sure that those “trees” actually get planted? According to the data…they would have to plant trees every day for several years to offset the footprint these has beens just created just so they could stand around and pat themselves on the back for being so “carbon neutral”.

    Hypocracy at it’s finest.

  66. LC SkyeChild Comment by LC SkyeChild

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    Mrs. No-flag,

    The new left mantra should be: Freedom (to do whatever I want) for me, but not for thee.

  67. Deathknyte Comment by Deathknyte

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    Mrs. No-flag

    Why dont you have a flag Mrs M?

  68. Emperor Misha I Comment by Emperor Misha I

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    Why dont you have a flag Mrs M?

    She’s found a way of fooling our Hi-Tech Imperial Snoop Systems™, no doubt for her own nefarious reasons. I think that maybe she’s one of them Evil Joooos we keep hearing about in the Arab media.

  69. LC JackBoot IC/A-OBR Comment by LC JackBoot IC/A-OBR

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    DK-

    Why dont you have a flag Mrs M?

    We’ve been trying to sort that question/problem out since we started tagging our flags. We be stumped completely too. It should be Old Glory, trust me on that one.

  70. Radical Redneck Comment by Radical Redneck

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    GLOBAL WORMENING MUST END! WE’RE ALL BURNING UP!!!! :shock: :cry:

  71. Emperor Misha I Comment by Emperor Misha I

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    And to elaborate on Mrs M-ITT’s splendid words about the scam in question, I offer you a perfect analogy, PC:

    Suppose that your local pastor is busy keeping a dozen whores on the side when not preaching to the congregation about the sin of adultery.

    The analogy here would be the pastor buying “adultery offsets” and then expecting you all to not call him a hypocrite because, clearly, his purchase of those offsets made the adultery never happen, right?

    The fact of the matter is that even if those “carbon offsets” weren’t a massive scam in that the ones selling them aren’t doing diddly squat to “make up” for the purchaser’s emissions (and a lot of them aren’t), the emissions would still have been made. They’re not disappearing because of the offsets, so all that is happening is that you’re paying somebody to not make emissions in order for you to continue to do as you please with a “clean conscience.”

    In other words, it’s utter and complete bullshit. It’s income redistribution, that’s all it is. Now add to that that the Goreacle himself is heavily invested in the “carbon offset industry”, and you have the spectacle of a serial emitter on a scale that dwarfs minor towns preaching about “carbon neutrality” while making a pretty penny off of the offsets that he is purchasing from himself.

    That’s a scam for ya. And, if people weren’t so borderline retarded on average, it would be a fantastically dumb one too. But the success of the Nigerian 419 scammers and various and sundry pyramid schemes proves that no-one ever went broke underestimating the intelligence of the public.

  72. LibraryGryffon Comment by LibraryGryffon

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    A really nice site for climate info that I found a while back is Ponder the Maunder.

    It started as a high-school science project, but it’s grown. I first heard about her site in a discussion of the Australian(?) weather, where UN and other scientists had been predicting another dry year, and this young woman, based on her readings of weather and climate data, predicted the opposite. She was right. She also has a page with a point-by-point discussion of Gore’s “movie”.

  73. LC Mrs. M-ITT™ Comment by LC Mrs. M-ITT™

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    She’s found a way of fooling our Hi-Tech Imperial Snoop Systems™, no doubt for her own nefarious reasons. I think that maybe she’s one of them Evil Joooos we keep hearing about in the Arab media.

    BWAHAHAHAHAHA!!! Just don’t tell anyone…I might have to go all Valery Plame on ya. *snark**snark**snark*

    We’ve been trying to sort that question/problem out since we started tagging our flags. We be stumped completely too. It should be Old Glory, trust me on that one.

    Yup…good old red blooded Ameeeerican.

    Seriously…it’s my Sooper Secret Cheney/Halliburton/VRWC Firewall and Microwave Emitter™ . Didn’t the rest of you get one when you paid your Union Dues???

  74. Unregistered Comment by seagoon

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    Here’s a plan equally as useful as offsets….

    link

  75. Vergeltung Comment by Vergeltung

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    the carbon-offsets thingy IS a complete and utter scam. but think about it; it’s completely apropos of the liberal mind and the way they generally deal with real issues (poverty, crime, etc.)…form over substance.

    it’s better to “feel” good about an issue and pretend to do something about it, then really get down & dirty and DO something about an important issue. :|

  76. ohio right wing nut Comment by ohio right wing nut

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    SEAGOON
    I got a shovel and can scuba dive , where do
    I start?

    VERGELTUNG
    You are exactly right about lib programs (war on poverty)I once heard Bob Geldof of Live Aid fame say when being asked about the African problem “something needs to be done, even if it doesn’t work.

    thats the whole thinking behind libtard programs it doesn’t matter if it works just keep throwing money at the problem, and we will all keep feeling good about ourselves

  77. Vergeltung Comment by Vergeltung

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    Wing Nut:

    Yep, exactly. Don’t want to hi-jack the thread, but just look what they’ve done to public education in the major cities in this country. :O SAme deal; forum over function, throw money…get no results.

  78. The Major Comment by The Major

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    70. Comment by Radical Redneck

    GLOBAL WORMENING MUST END! WE’RE ALL BURNING UP!!!!

    Heat, cold, drought, flood, wildfires, ice… Global warming covers it all. Just watch “The Day After Tomorrow.” I still can’t believe I paid money to see that political-turd-disguised-as-a-movie. If you have to, borrow it, shoplift or pirate it, just for God’s sake don’t spend money to watch it. Trust me, you’ll live with a lot less guilt.

    PsychoC - Intel-based MacBook Pro. Been a Mac user since 1987. It is the only aspect of my life that I allow leftist hippies (and neo-hippies) to intrude upon. Apple staffers may be a bunch of political whack-jobs, but they make one helluva computer and OS! I feel soiled every time I am forced to use a Windows-based machine! I’m taking the Intel plunge to the next level in August: QuadCore desktop. It’s OK to upgrade, PC. Those weirdoes in Cuppertino have always taken care of me and I’m sure they’ll do the same for you.

    Oh, thanks for digging up some dissenting opinion on the Goracle. Good to know at least some scientists are using caution. Pretty paltry, though. But then, the Goracle Freight Train of Folly is barreling down the tracks of glory. I suspect that 100 years from now, assuming that objective science still exists, the GFToF will be viewed much the same way we view 19th century hucksters selling bottled cure-alls.

    —–

    O Great Emperor, do you suppose the special ™ character in LC Mrs. M-ITT™ might be interfering in someway with the itty bitty American Flag being displayed? Just a thought.

  79. Vergeltung Comment by Vergeltung

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    do they make any software for Macs? :P (you certainly must not be a PC gamer! :) ).

  80. LC Wil Comment by LC Wil

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    Seriously…it’s my Sooper Secret Cheney/Halliburton/VRWC Firewall and Microwave Emitter™ . Didn’t the rest of you get one when you paid your Union Dues???

    Why, no, as a matter of fact, I didn’t.

    MANAGEMENT!

    ======================

    Psycochick:

    Ol’ Al’s making a pot ful of cash on this scam. The Carbon Offsets he is buying are from a company he founded, and is still the majority stockholder of. If he spends one dollar on an offset, 68 cents of that goes into his pocket, AND he gets to deduct the full dollar from his income taxes. After the noise and paperwork clears, he actually gets one dollar and 10 cents benefit out of this buck.

    The entire scheme has two bases. 1) You pay Al’s company to pay someone to plant a tree. The people planting the tree gets 25 cents from the dollar you pay Al. Al’s company makes 75 cents clear profit. 2) Each person on earth has some “allotment” of carbon we are “allowed” to put into the atmosphere. The Company (Al’s) finds some primitive who could NEVER use all of his allotment, and “pay” him for the part he is not using. As an example, a native of Tahiti is not likely to need to heat his home. Therefore, he only uses 10% of his annual “allowance”, and sells the other 90% to AlBore for 20 bucks. AlBore then sells these “offsets” for 200 dollars to you, because you are, for some reason, chartering a plane this evening.

    AlBore’s company makes $180.00, and Ol’ Al gets about $130.00, which is then taxed at the DIVIDEND rate (15%), not as regular income (35%). Great scam, ain’t it?

  81. The Major Comment by The Major

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    78. Comment by Vergeltung

    do they make any software for Macs? (you certainly must not be a PC gamer!).

    Do they make any software for Macs… Of course not. Macs are just pretty paperweights that somehow consistently set the benchmarks in technology and OS reliability that the PC community must always wait months or years for. As for “Gaming,” you are right. I am decidedly NOT a PC Gamer. I have too many alligators nipping at my ass to engage in “Gaming.”

    I actually own a Toshiba laptop. I use it for four things. 1) To check how changes to my website look like on a PC; 2) To load Map Data into a GPS receiver; 3) As a coaster to put drinks on when there is no room on my desk; 4) To remind me how fortunate I am to be using a Mac. I do not venture outside my website on the Toshiba, lest I pick-up spyware, viruses and cockroach-like propagating pop-up ads, etc. Seems to be the only reliable way to keep the fragile and vulnerable XP Professional operating system safe.

  82. Vergeltung Comment by Vergeltung

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    well, then, may you have continued enjoyment of your niche product! :)

  83. The Major Comment by The Major

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    Vergeltung…

    And may you have continued enjoyment with yours!

    LC Wil…

    Are you trying to say that our former Vice President is a *gasp* FLIM FLAM MAN??? Using hyped-up pseudoscience and scare tactics to FLEECE the gullible??? SHAME ON YOU FOR SUGGESTING SUCH A THING! Have you NO RESPECT, man? Al loves the Earth. He is in tune with nature. How could such a caring soul engage in such malfeasance? Sir, I must fart in your general direction!

    (Wonder how many carbon credits I need to buy to offset a targeted fart?)

  84. LC Wil Comment by LC Wil

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    Major:

    Are you trying to say that our former Vice President is a *gasp* FLIM FLAM MAN??? Using hyped-up pseudoscience and scare tactics to FLEECE the gullible???

    Why, yes, YES I AM!. The difference between AlBore and a mugger? The mugger is more honest about what he wants from you, and more likely to get to heaven.

  85. Vergeltung Comment by Vergeltung

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    For the older of you amongst us, if you recall, Algore has been at this crap for decades. He’s been doing this chicken-little schtick since his book “earth in the balance”, which was basically a lOOny rant at the gasoline engine.

    he’s not a well man. :D

  86. The Major Comment by The Major

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    LC Wil,

    You know, I need to start making some sound, high-yield investments for the future cuz I’m no spring “free range” chicken anymore. Maybe I should buy stock in ol’ Al’s company. Since there seems to be a nearly endless supply of “guilt-ridden gullibles” with money, and Al’s company offers a high profit way to unburden them of both guilt AND cash, the stock should soar in value! Retirement here I come!

  87. Unregistered Comment by leoni2

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    PC,

    Not to be disagreeable, but how does a disagreement over a science model become a “scam?” (not that you are the one who said that)

    And to paraphrase Ronnie Reagon, Here we go again. PC, seriously, I think we’d talked about this before. While global warming is a fact, the world is a regulating system that warms up for several decades and then cools down for several decades, then become warm, then cool again. And it has nothing to do with humanity causing it. It has everything to do with the big yellow orb that this planet revolves around for about 365 days. Or rather because of sunspot activity on the sun. When sunspot activity increase, (I’m sure someone else will correct me if I get it wrong) it gets warmer, and when it goes down or stop, the earth gets cooler. IIRC, sunspot activity is presently up, so, its getting warmer on this planet at the moment. When sunspot activity go do, it’ll start getting clooer around here. If I’m correct, cloud cover is also a factor. More clouds, cooler, less clouds, warmer.

    Another thing is that when I was growing up in the 70s and just as I was going to college between 1979 and 1987, one of the major fears of the period was that the world was going to get cooler than it already was. Some scientists were telling people that unless we did something the world was going to get cooler. Well, I guess those folks were wrong, hmmm?

    Anyway, the problem here is that the so-call naysayers are not being directly debated by those who seriously believe that the world is getting warmer and will continue to get warmer and saying that debate isn’t necessary. And, from what I’d read, it appear that the naysayers are simply saying that, global warming, while true, is not man-made, it’s a natural occurance. As such, it has a history than stretches back through the natural history of this planet. And, in a few decades, this planet will be getting cooler again. I mean, what is wrong with a little debate. If anything, it should give both sides a chance to show what they’d got and let the general public decide which side has the better evidence.

    But as for Gore and friends, I seriously wonder if they have read the data, or just something that they could use to scare people and in the process make money off of the scare.

    Now, before you can complain, there is nothing wrong with recycling or trying to reduce our energy consumption. I’d prefered it was done without the whole gloom and doom scenario. I.e., using common scene and with a good plan that will work.

  88. LC Wil Comment by LC Wil

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    PT Barnum said it much better than I will ever be able:

    “There’s a Sucker born every minute.”

  89. Unregistered Comment by leoni2

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    RR,

    Wait a minute. First snow in South Africa, now Buenos Aires, Argentina? Could someone please tell me what’s going on in the Southern Hemisphere? And whether it’s our fault? ;)

  90. LC Cheapshot911, Dept. of Redneck Tech Comment by LC Cheapshot911, Dept. of Redneck Tech

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    W.C. Fields, always a step ahead:
    “Never give a sucker an even break”

  91. Unregistered Comment by leoni2

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    Mrs. M,

    Seriously…it’s my Sooper Secret Cheney/Halliburton/VRWC Firewall and Microwave Emitter™. Didn’t the rest of you get one when you paid your Union Dues???

    Wait a minute, there’s a union? Why don’t somebody tell me these things?

  92. jaybear Comment by jaybear

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    The Major sez:

    (Wonder how many carbon credits I need to buy to offset a targeted fart?)

    I beieve you need a methane offset for that Major.

    Give me some time, I’ll have them printed up by tomorrow morning and will gladly accept a personal check, paypal, or credit card.

  93. Emperor Misha I Comment by Emperor Misha I

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    And whether it’s our fault? ;)

    It’s always our fault, leoni2.

  94. SoCalOilMan, LC Comment by SoCalOilMan, LC

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    Wait a minute, there’s a union?

    Union? I don’t need no stinking Union!

  95. The Major Comment by The Major

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    Farts actually contain mostly nitrogen and the evil Mr. Carbon Dioxide, with small amounts of oxygen, hydrogen and methane (if you have the right gut bugs). Remember the whacko cry that bovine farts were contributing to global warming? Yep, Elsie the Cow and her Earth-killing carbon dioxide farts. Gonna need the real thing, jaybear: Carbon Offset Credits. Interesting to note, however, that Carbon Dioxide and Methane have the same number of carbon atoms. Coincidence? I think NOT!

    The Greatest Farter in History
    Great Environmental Criminals of the Past
    Joseph Pujol Le Pétomane 1857-1945
    “The Fartist”

  96. jaybear Comment by jaybear

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    ahhh the Great Le Petomane, now I have a face portrait for my offset currency….

    Thanks Major, I’ll make sure to give you a good exchange rate for that.

  97. The Major Comment by The Major

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    96. Comment by jaybear

    Thanks Major, I’ll make sure to give you a good exchange rate for that.

    Thank you! Like the Goreacle, your kindness is only exceeded by your greed.

  98. The Major Comment by The Major

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    Elsie the Cow: Enviroterrorist

    Elsie the Cow: Ruminant, or Enviro-terrorist?

  99. LC Mrs. M-ITT™ Comment by LC Mrs. M-ITT™

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    If you fart consistently for 6 years and 9 months, enough gas is produced to create the energy of an atomic bomb.

    So?

    Everybody eat more beans and turn your ass toward Mecca!

  100. LC Wil Comment by LC Wil

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    If you fart consistently for 6 years and 9 months, enough gas is produced to create the energy of an atomic bomb.

    . . eeeewwwwwwwww! . .

  101. LC SkyeChild Comment by LC SkyeChild

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    Mrs. M:

    Didn’t the rest of you get one when you paid your Union Dues???

    THAT’S who we were supposed to send the check to. I thought it was to the Zionist conspiracy!

  102. The Major Comment by The Major

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    Earliest Known Enviro-Terrorist

    The Earliest Known Enviro-Terrorists: The Flintstones
    Dino, the mode of transportation, was a prodigious greenhouse gas producer.

  103. psychochick Comment by psychochick

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    OK. That does sound like a scam with the carbon offsets. never felt the need to buy any. Also, flying private jets to an event concerned about CO2 in the atmosphere does seem hypocritical.

    Leoni2
    I don’t repeat these posts to argue that the global warming theory should be worshipped. I hate being in the middle of things like this (not that anyone was nasty–except for the lazy thing–looking through the premier scientific journals in the middle of the night). I bring it up because I get tired of being called an idiot for something that is the predominant climatological theory in science right now. Yes–people disagree–that’s the nature of testing new theories. That could be really interesting (like your post) and Major’s post before. And the hurricane researcher thing.

    Incidentally, liberal spouse hates Gore and refused to vote for him. considered him corrupt

  104. LC SkyeChild Comment by LC SkyeChild

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    Yabba-dabba doo!!!!

  105. LC SkyeChild Comment by LC SkyeChild

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    climatological theory

    BINGO! Theory. Nothing more, nothing less. It is, however, being presented as FACT.

  106. The Major Comment by The Major

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    Up In Smoke
    A Years’ Allotment of Carbon Credits Up in Smoke!

  107. LC Mrs. M-ITT™ Comment by LC Mrs. M-ITT™

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    THAT’S who we were supposed to send the check to. I thought it was to the Zionist conspiracy!

    Nooooo….you send a separate check to the Zionist Conspiracy to get your Ultra-Sooper Secret Decoder Ring and Launch Codes™, and a one year’s subscription to JoooosRUs™.

  108. LC Mrs. M-ITT™ Comment by LC Mrs. M-ITT™

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    Umm…Major…would you care to come clean this iced tea off my monitor please?

    ROFLMAO!

  109. HarleyRace (I feel Pretty!!!!) Comment by HarleyRace (I feel Pretty!!!!)

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    GORE/MOORE 2008!!!

    I WORSHIP CINDY SHEEHAN!

    Cindy is going to take out the traitor Pelosi in the next race! I would support Sheehan in anything that she does. I would not give Pelosi a squirt of piss in the desert to save her life. She is a traitor. And I believe along with around 99% of Americans now that 9-11 was an inside job! Chimpy admitted, per the reports that it would take an act such as another Pearl Harbor to make Americans support a war, given to the unelected fascist Bush Regime in 2000. She lost her son in a war started to steal oil that now that we have it costs us more in fule prices. She is a true American Hero! as is her son, who died fightning a war suponsered by the Bush to meet the Illuminati’s obsession of global dominance. And now that the American public has defeated Bush’s try to pass the NAU and the SPP per this Schamnesty crap he is silent. But Sheehan’s pain is still real. She lost a son in a fake war that Bush started for his and the Illuminati’s own personal gain. Impeach him now! Take him to The Hague as he is worse than Hitler.

    BUSH LIED PEOPLE DIED!

  110. Tsubaki Shijuro (formerly Fuzzhead) Comment by Tsubaki Shijuro (formerly Fuzzhead)

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    >the predominant climatological theory in science right now

    Actually, what is most generally accepted is that there is such thing as–you might want to sit down for this–CLIMATE CHANGE!

    Noooot too much of a shocker there.

    What isn’t at all generally accepted by the relevant scientific community (moron celebrities, Disney, and TV weather people don’t count), is the idea (it’s hard to even allow it to be called a theory) that humans have had any meaningful effect on climate change. It’s been going on for thousands of years, long before those evil cars and factories and white heterosexual Christian conservatives came along.

    Hype. Hysteria. Money. That’s all it has ever been and all it will ever be.

    Oh, and also a decidedly humorous legacy for Al Gwar (a decidedly NON-scientific fellow).

    Isn’t it odd that all those Gaia worshipers seem to think that Gaia is a real wuss that can be ruined by a bunch of little mortals putt-putting around in cars and mass producing iPods? Why worship something so weak and pathetic?

  111. jaybear Comment by jaybear

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    Tsubaki Shijuro (formerly Fuzzhead),

    I like the new name…but Fuzzhead was easier to spell.

    you say:

    Why worship something so weak and pathetic?

    better ask harley race, he worships cindy sheehan :)

  112. Tsubaki Shijuro (formerly Fuzzhead) Comment by Tsubaki Shijuro (formerly Fuzzhead)

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    >BUSH LIED PEOPLE DIED!

    CINDY CRIED, HER BRAIN IS FRIED!

  113. Tsubaki Shijuro (formerly Fuzzhead) Comment by Tsubaki Shijuro (formerly Fuzzhead)

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    >but Fuzzhead was easier to spell.

    Yeah, I found out that there was a band called “Fuzzhead” that plays weird, boring hippie music, so I decided to go for a change.

  114. jaybear Comment by jaybear

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    roger that about the name change Tsubaki Shijuro, kinda like using the name Phish eh?

  115. LC Mrs. M-ITT™ Comment by LC Mrs. M-ITT™

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    And I believe along with around 99% of Americans

    On what planet?

    Now if you had said 99% of tin foil wearing, diaper shitting, sippy cup banging, weed smoking, crack snorting, tofu eating, tree hugging, unbathed, Gorebutt ass kissing, terrorist loving Libtards you would have been correct.

    Harley, Have you considered suing your brain for nonsupport?

  116. Tsubaki Shijuro (formerly Fuzzhead) Comment by Tsubaki Shijuro (formerly Fuzzhead)

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    Phish…ugh…

  117. B.C., Imperial Torturer™ Comment by B.C., Imperial Torturer™

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    Okay, RR, you can drop the satire troll persona and come out from behind the curtain. :lol:

  118. jaybear Comment by jaybear

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    Tsubaki,

    When I was in college I worked stage security and crowd control at stadium concerts..saw some great bands up close and personal, including Little Feat, Return to Forever, Frank Zappa, Earth Wind and Fire, and Marshall Tucker. I’m 53 now and still think that one of the looooongest and most miserable days of my life came when I had to work a Grateful Dead show….6 straight hours of that meandering noodling “music”, the place stank from filthy deadheads and there was a constant stream of OD’d hippies being carted off to the medical tents by me and the other security staff. I hate the Dead to this day.

    Mrs M sez about harley racist:

    Now if you had said 99% of tin foil wearing, diaper shitting, sippy cup banging, weed smoking, crack snorting, tofu eating, tree hugging, unbathed, Gorebutt ass kissing, terrorist loving Libtards you would have been correct.

    Harley, Have you considered suing your brain for nonsupport?

    you are the Flame Queen Mrs M., nicely done

  119. psychochick Comment by psychochick

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    Tsubaki
    I miss Fuzzhead!

    “What isn’t at all generally accepted by the relevant scientific community … is the idea (it’s hard to even allow it to be called a theory) that humans have had any meaningful effect on climate change. ”

    From “Science” magazine–the source of science info and policy for most of us scientists (the exact citation is on a previous post, but it’s in the Feb 9, 2007 issue.)

    “Six years of research later, the heightened confidence is obvious. The warming is “unequivocal.” Humans are “very likely” (higher than 90% likelihood) behind the warming.”

    That doesn’t make it true, but neither is saying that the idea doesn’t have support among the scientific community. Yes, theories change and are proven wrong. There was also a comment in the article that it is still science and not truth.

    SkyeChild
    You are clearly correct.

  120. psychochick Comment by psychochick

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    sorry–this came out snarkier than I meant it to. Getting testy in my old age.

  121. Unregistered Comment by leoni2

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    Major,

    Elsie the Cow: Ruminant, or Enviro-terrorist?

    Elsie??? No, it can’t be!!!!! Must be the fault of that rotten husband of hers, Elmer! He drove her moo it.

    The Earliest Known Enviro-Terrorists: The Flintstones

    Dino, the mode of transportation, was a prodigious greenhouse gas producer.

    Wait a minute? I thought the Flintstones got around using their feet and stone wheels? I’m confused. Somebody help me!!!!

  122. Unregistered Comment by leoni2

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    Mrs. M,

    Everybody eat more beans and turn your ass toward Mecca!

    Geee, suggesting gas warfare and psychological torture against the followers of pislam? I approve!!!

  123. Tsubaki Shijuro (formerly Fuzzhead) Comment by Tsubaki Shijuro (formerly Fuzzhead)

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    jaybear
    Oh, man. I can’t even imagine six hours of that.
    I had a guy try to convince me one time that Jerry Garcia was a genius guitarist.
    But that was also a guy who thought Eddie Van Halen was the fastest guitarist in the world, hahaha!

    psychochick
    But when you ask them who was driving all the cars and building all the factories thousands of years ago when it was happening, they get a blank stare on their faces and start drooling.

    If you start asking them about the increase in ice thickness in places that were supposed to be melting away, they flop onto the ground and start convulsing.

    If you start pointing out that their conclusions don’t actually match the data they have collected, then their heads explode and they go to New Age Heaven and sit on the right hand of the Almighty Gore.

    Q: Why don’t their conclusions match the data?
    A: Follow the money.

    >I miss Fuzzhead!
    Oh, I’m still just as lovable whatever name I use! :)

    And, I didn’t think you sounded snarky.

  124. Unregistered Comment by leoni2

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    PC,

    I don’t repeat these posts to argue that the global warming theory should be worshipped.

    The sad fact is, there are too many folks out there who are saying otherwise. Too many for my taste.

    I hate being in the middle of things like this (not that anyone was nasty–except for the lazy thing–looking through the premier scientific journals in the middle of the night). I bring it up because I get tired of being called an idiot for something that is the predominant climatological theory in science right now.

    Uhm, have folks called you stupid, personally? I know I haven’t. And the problem is too many people won’t take the time to think on the matter. They instead go and listen to someone who claims to be an expert in the subject and listen to everything he or she said, without asking if what is being said has been proven. And by the way, ding-ding-ding, you have just said the secret word, Theory. And if I remember my science 101 correctly, a theory need to be tested to be proven correct or wrong. Has the theory been tested hard enough so that it won’t end up being shown to be off the mark in any way later?

    Yes–people disagree–that’s the nature of testing new theories. That could be really interesting (like your post) and Major’s post before. And the hurricane researcher thing.

    Sure people disagree on theories, that is one of the important part of science, debate. But, from what I’d been seeing and reading, it seems one side (those who believe that global warming is the fault of humans, or rather, the West), don’t want to have a debate with those who think that we don’t have that much of an impact on what’s going on with global warming. If the theory (Its humanity’s fault) is true, then it should be able to stand up on its own against the information that says otherwise. If it can’t, then the ither side should be allow to show that while global warming itself is true, it is also a natural phenomenon and not influenced by what we humans do or don’t do.

    Incidentally, liberal spouse hates Gore and refused to vote for him. considered him corrupt.

    Is that a fact? Interesting, very interesting.

  125. Unregistered Comment by leoni2

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    And I believe along with around 99% of Americans now that 9-11 was an inside job!

    Right! Excuse me, but is your head on tight? I see only one party responsible for 9-11 and that’s Al Queda. Honestly, the nerve of some people.

  126. Unregistered Comment by leoni2

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    Tsubaki Shijuro,

    >BUSH LIED PEOPLE DIED!

    CINDY CRIED, HER BRAIN IS FRIED!

    Bwahahahahaha!!!! Good one!!!

  127. psychochick Comment by psychochick

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    leoni2
    Always a pleasant surprise when you materialize. No, nobody said a word about me, but there were a lot of nasty comments about people that believed in global warming. I thought I fell under that purview–guess I shouldn’t take things personally. The more I read about Gore–I see why the hostility:

    “Gore talks about the dysfunction of political discourse today. But when it comes to global warming, he and his acolytes insist that the time for debate is over. In other words, Gore’s ideal discourse would involve only discussion about how best to follow through on his prescriptions.” (LA Times)

    I guess a lot of people are being intolerant about opposing views. I try to get my science from scientists, so I never paid much attention to Al Gore. I did see a very persuasive talk by James Hansen–head of the NASA Goddard Space Science Institute. (yes I know–there’s something critical of him somewhere on some website). I think they have amassed a lot of data to make a strong argument for it. But’s that all I’ll say–not that it’s the truth. Theories are meant to be debated, as you have said.

  128. Tsubaki Shijuro (formerly Fuzzhead) Comment by Tsubaki Shijuro (formerly Fuzzhead)

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    psychochick
    You may already know of this, but here’s a website dedicated to taking a look at (and debunking) junk science. http://www.junkscience.com/

    Naturally, the global warming thing has gotten a lot of attention there.

    If you interested in the credentials of the fellow who runs it, you can check this page. http://www.junkscience.com/Junkman.html

  129. Unregistered Comment by leoni2

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    PC,

    Always a pleasant surprise when you materialize. No, nobody said a word about me, but there were a lot of nasty comments about people that believed in global warming. I thought I fell under that purview–guess I shouldn’t take things personally.

    Well, that’s because I have a lot of things to do. Didn’t think anyone did. And that’s a very good idea. Unless something is said that you know is being said directly at you, don’t take it personally. Else, you are going to drive yourself to the nut farm.

    The more I read about Gore–I see why the hostility:

    “Gore talks about the dysfunction of political discourse today. But when it comes to global warming, he and his acolytes insist that the time for debate is over. In other words, Gore’s ideal discourse would involve only discussion about how best to follow through on his prescriptions.” (LA Times)

    Ah you’re beginning to notice how two face Al the Bore is. Anyway, I have a theory why Bore won’t debate about global warming. Because he knows that he’ll get slaughtered by someone who know what’s really going on in climatology. Just saying. And remember this is my theory and the best way to refute it is for Gore and company to actually debate the issue. Not holding my breath, though.

    I guess a lot of people are being intolerant about opposing views. I try to get my science from scientists, so I never paid much attention to Al Gore. I did see a very persuasive talk by James Hansen–head of the NASA Goddard Space Science Institute. (yes I know–there’s something critical of him somewhere on some website). I think they have amassed a lot of data to make a strong argument for it. But’s that all I’ll say–not that it’s the truth. Theories are meant to be debated, as you have said.

    Right, debate it.

  130. psychochick Comment by psychochick

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    Tsubaki
    Thanks. You rule! I expect to spend a lot of time there. Looks like the fellow has impeccable credentials. I signed the petition for Al Gore to debate.

    leoni2
    Ah, the nut farm. have managed to avoid it so far, thanks to the wonders of modern medicine.

    It’s probably an excellent idea to debate, but honestly I’m tired and don’t feel well right now (severe anemia). And doing global warming stuff here activates my ulcer. If we want to do it at some point, it would probably be best to go private and not take over a thread. I can give you my e-mail address at some point (ideally on a thread that doesn’t get posted somewhere else!). Oh hell, have it now: tetrodotoxin2 yahoo (pufferfish toxin). I doubt anyone evil will cruise this thread. And if so, they shall be vanquished!

    You’re an archivist! Wonderful! (Sometimes I have a delayed reaction)

  131. The Major Comment by The Major

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    Crime In Progress
    Caught in the Act of Contributing to Global Warming!
    Why isn’t this man in JAIL!

    OK, a break from the scatologic…

    HarleyRace - Get back on the meds, Brahdah! The tin foil just ain’t cutting it!

    PsychoC - I hope you didn’t think I was calling you an “idiot!” No way I’d do that! Three reasons: 1) You’re not; 2) You own a Mac; 3) I don’t want to find myself wide awake but unable to breathe.

    leoni2 - Elmer was in on it, moo. It is well documented that the “Ethel and Julius Rosenbergs” of beef were notorious greenhouse gas producing planet murderers. They also sold their flatulent to the Russians. The Flintstones - Al Gore-ble is working on featuring their enviro-terrorism in the sequel to An Inconvenient Truth called An Incomprehensible Ruse. By the way, not many people know that the entire Flintstone Family was wiped out when Fred fed Dino Ol’ Roy Dinosaur food and the ten-fold gassier pet farted in front of the fireplace. Gore-ble believes it was that monumental explosion that marked the end of the reign of dinosaurs 65 million years ago, not some wussy little comet impact.

    LC Mrs. M-ITT™ - Sorry about the monitor. I was trying to be serious, but I guess I need to work on my wordcrafting a bit. This post is my attempt at being more serious. How did I do?

    Back to business…

    Pink Monstrosity
    The “Green” Dinosaur
    Passive… Effeminate… Champion of Alternative Lifestyles… Vegetarian
    Farts contain no greenhouse gasses and smell like jasmine incense or hashish
    Listens to Enya while driving a primer-colored vintage VW

  132. The Major Comment by The Major

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    (OK, one more. I’m on a roll.)


    The “Green” Whatever the Fuck He/She Is

    Non-threatening… Sexually Ambiguous… Mesmerizes toddlers for easy indoctrination
    Lives in an “Earth-Sheltered” home on an English Commune
    Eats vegetarian biomass called Tubby Custard and Tubby Toast
    Farts are void of greenhouse gasses and smell like Dipsy’s spermatozoapositor
    Monitor istalled in abdoment only tuned to PBS, NBC and Lifetime
    Totes an earth-friendly “purse,” not “luggage”

    —–

    By the way, if this “tubby” isn’t… well… “sweet,” how did his Winky get (S)Tinky?

  133. LC SkyeChild Comment by LC SkyeChild

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    The Major,

    You have WAY too much time on your hands! 8-P

  134. Nanashi Comment by Nanashi

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    No, nobody said a word about me, but there were a lot of nasty comments about people that believed in global warming.

    Just the ones who fly in private jets to their carbon disaster concerts and then lecture us on how we, the proletariat, need to sacrifice more to save the planet from global warming and elect Saint Gore to save us all.

    When LiveEarth was going on, I was a little busy trying to cut lawn netting off a baby robin who’d got caught by some that our retard power company crews never bothered to cover up and which the builders half-assed and didn’t even use biodegradable netting. Then I had to go back inside to write my legislators on why the hell builders et al. insist on endangering us and wildlife to save a buck.

    So needless to say, I have little patience on being lectured when I’m probably doing 80% more than the lecturee in question.

    And now it’s time for Fun Facts!

    TEST YOUR MIGHT!

    See if you can match my 100%, ‘natches! (OK OK, so Ms. Geosystems teacher has an unfair advantage)

    how does a disagreement over a science model become a “scam?

    Mrs. M and LC Wil provided one each, and I’ll raise them one.

    The analogy here would be the pastor buying “adultery offsets” and then expecting you all to not call him a hypocrite because, clearly, his purchase of those offsets made the adultery never happen, right?

    Otherwise know as an indulgence. Didn’t fly then and it’s not gonna fly now.

    leoni2

    Wot she said.

  135. psychochick Comment by psychochick

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    Nanashi
    Thanks for the links. I, too, had better things to do than watch that concert. That was nice of you to save the robin. I hope it lives. Can you pop it back in the nest, or will you have to raise it? I miss robins–we don’t have them out here.

    TheMajor
    “idiot”
    God no. I would put our interactions as high-spirited debate.

    “not being able to breathe”
    I’ll make a bargain with you: I won’t poison you with tetrodotoxin if you don’t cut out my liver and eat it! That seems equitable.

    Maybe you can help me. How do you do the quotes in boxes with a Mac?

  136. baslimthecripple Comment by baslimthecripple

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    The second step being to classify her douche water as bio-hazard waste.

    Re Madonna, I would have thought it would be like the bloods of Aliens, burns it way through five steel decks.

  137. The Major Comment by The Major

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    133. Comment by LC SkyeChild

    The Major,

    You have WAY too much time on your hands! 8-P

    I’m living in a hotel waiting to egress off this rock and I am BORED STIFF! Besides, there are cool people here!

    PsychoC

    Thought you would get a kick out of the “Spermatozoapositor” joke, even though it is somewhat insensitive and politically incorrect.

    To do the quote-box thingy, I highlight, copy and paste what I want to quote into the Leave a comment. I highlight what I just pasted and click the “B-quote” button. That adds the b-quote code to the beginning and end of what you highlighted. For some reason, I usually need to remove extra spaces inserted by what is most likely a dumbass Windows-based program. Just don’t change any of the code when you’re tidying up the formatting. Click to the right of the last code and hit return to you may add your comments without them being inside the quote box.

    Deal! I can’t stand liver, anyway. Emeril-prepared fava beans and two gallons of a nice Chianti would hardly be enough to entice (or anesthetize) me enough to eat what amounts to be an animal’s blood filter! Besides, if I were going to make a meal of you… OK, STOP IT! STOP IT RIGHT NOW YOU SICK PERVERTS! I’M TAKING ABOUT CANNIBALISM, NOT… YOU KNOW! …I would bacon-wrap and Mesquite roast your Psoas muscles cut into 2 inch steaks - Human filet mignon. I dunno, a Merlot or a boxed Texas table wine? Baked taters or french fries? Tough calls. Hill Country pecan pie for desert. No brainer there.

    I really should get off my backsides and eat breakfast…


    Hannibal discussing “Sicko” with CNN’s Wolf Blitzer


    “It puts the lotion on its’ skin or else it gets a Clinton again!”

  138. Unregistered Comment by leoni2

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    PC

    Ah, the nut farm. have managed to avoid it so far, thanks to the wonders of modern medicine.

    Not me. I just try to not let people get to me.

    It’s probably an excellent idea to debate, but honestly I’m tired and don’t feel well right now (severe anemia). And doing global warming stuff here activates my ulcer. If we want to do it at some point, it would probably be best to go private and not take over a thread. I can give you my e-mail address at some point (ideally on a thread that doesn’t get posted somewhere else!).

    Blink blink. I meant those who were on the opposite side of whether people were the cause of global warming, or if it was man-made, not us, PC. Even I don’t have that much time on my hand.

    Oh hell, have it now: tetrodotoxin2 yahoo (pufferfish toxin). I doubt anyone evil will cruise this thread. And if so, they shall be vanquished!

    I don’t doubt that, considering how few of the trolls seem to stick around here.

    You’re an archivist! Wonderful! (Sometimes I have a delayed reaction)

    That what I was trained for, although I’d put it to little use, so far.

  139. Unregistered Comment by leoni2

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    The Major,

    I have to agree with SkyeChild. You seems to have way too much time on your hand and enjoying yourself too much.

    And upon seeing Barney and the Teletubbie pictures, these words from Al Bundy come to mind:

    AAHHHHHHH, my eyes!!!!!!!

  140. Unregistered Comment by leoni2

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    Blink blink.

    Uhm, mamagement, I think there’s something screwy going on here. (My previous posts.)

  141. The Major Comment by The Major

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    What did I tell you - Dumbass Windows based program!

  142. jaybear Comment by jaybear

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    Hey Major,

    you’re in Hawaii right? which island???

  143. jaybear Comment by jaybear

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    sweeeet,

    we’re all blockquoted

  144. WayneB Comment by WayneB

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    leoni - quit breaking the blockquotes. :-P The tag I inserted here should stop it for now, but management will probably want to come in and clean up…

  145. WayneB Comment by WayneB

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    Or not.

  146. The Major Comment by The Major

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    jaybear - Oahu, but only for the next week!

  147. The Major Comment by The Major

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    It’s a KOS ATTACK! I know this because nothing is black and white, just gray.

  148. jaybear Comment by jaybear

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    well no wonder you want to get off, unless you’re close to Sunset Beach, Rocky Point, or the Pipe there’s really no place on Oahu that I’d want to live

    I had an opportunity to take a teaching job at the U of H a few years back. My boys and I were playing golf on Maui and a woman came in and asked if she could join us. She turned out to be a college faculty recruiter, I teach college level 3D animation and computer graphics and she told me that the U of H was putting together a computer graphics program and could not find any qualified instructors. I could have had the job THAT WEEK!, but my wife is pretty locked into her mainland career and so here I am in Kirkland Wa…..still.

    (muttering): she won’t let me teach in Hawaii, she won’t let me have a Harley, but she will let me have ALL the guns and fishing gear that I want…..my wife, I guess I’ll keep her (Or vice versa)

  149. Emperor Misha I Comment by Emperor Misha I

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    Uhm, mamagement, I think there’s something screwy going on here. (My previous posts.)

    Leoni2, I’m afraid I shall have to come scourge you personally, since this is the second time ;)

    Nah, just don’t manually insert any “<”s before your quotes. It confuses the heck out of the HTML midgets.

  150. Unregistered Comment by leoni2

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    Misha,

    Leoni2, I’m afraid I shall have to come scourge you personally, since this is the second time

    Second time? There was a first?

    Nah, just don’t manually insert any “< ”s before your quotes. It confuses the heck out of the HTML midgets.

    Midgets? Where, I don’t see anything? And to paraphrase Agent 86, Maxwell Smart: Sorry about that, Emperor.

  151. jaybear Comment by jaybear

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    leoni2 sez:

    Midgets? Where, I don’t see anything?

    actually, they’re out of work underpants gnomes.

    And to paraphrase Agent 86, Maxwell Smart: Sorry about that, Emperor.

    “if only you’d used your HTML powers for niceness instead of badness, Chief”

  152. Unregistered Comment by leoni2

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    Jaybear,

    “if only you’d used your HTML powers for niceness instead of badness, Chief”

    groan!!!!!

  153. The Major Comment by The Major

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    jaybear - It hasn’t been all bad here. Worked with a lot of great people over the years and the islands are quite beautiful. It’s just time to move to a place where I can stretch my legs and gun ownership is respected and defended. Too many nut jobs and victims here. Many “natives” and their supporters want “independence” and return to the old ways, meaning (I guess) the pre-Kamehameha Kapu system where EVERYBODY worked for, and was essentially owned by, the Ali`i (King). Kapu was a tough set of rules. I suspect the real reason behind the independence movement is wholesale land-grabbing, special rights based on race, and perhaps a Casino or two. Sound familiar? Lot’s of Gore-ble types here. Talk high and mighty, waving with one hand and picking your pocket with the other.

    Unless you just LIKE $7/gallon for milk, government and culturally-sanctioned racism, and rampant crime, visit only and be very careful where you drive.

  154. LC Wil Comment by LC Wil

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    Major:

    I suspect the real reason behind the independence movement is wholesale land-grabbing, special rights based on race, and perhaps a Casino or two

    Got it in one!

  155. The Major Comment by The Major

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    Damn, I almost forgot! Hawaii has to be the auto-pedestrian accident capitol of the universe. Most are hit and run! It’s gotten so bad the Governor has mad a number of pleas to the public to be mindful of pedestrians.

    One weekend, about a year ago, there were THREE. Two on Oahu, one on Maui. All were fatal. All were hit and run. One of the victims, a lone bicycle rider, was struck at night and found the next morning, several hours after the accident. Maybe if the asshole who hit him had one shred of decency in him and called an ambulance, his victim might have lived. We had another one just a few days ago. In fact, I almost got nailed a few evenings back in Waikiki by a double city bus that blew through the intersection a good 2-3 seconds after the light turned! ‘Bout soiled myself…

  156. jaybear Comment by jaybear

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    I know what you mean Major, When we visit the islands I tend to seek out the locals, they talk a lot about independance but still LOOOOve that paycheck from the haole……

    History freak that I am, there are a couple of books that are essential if you want to know the wild eyed story of those islands.

    The first is: Shoal of Time, covers the history of the islands from their “discovery” by Capt. Cook to modern times. It takes a rather PC approach to the history, vilifying the missionaries (sometimes justifiably, especially in their treatment of Queen Liliuokalani) and vilifying western influence in general. But it DOES give credit to English sailors and cannon for their part in the battle of the Iao Valley on Maui, where Kamehameha won the battle with the first use of cannon in the history of Hawaii.

    The second is Fornanders History of the Hawaiian People. Written by Abraham Fornander in the mid 1800’s he compiled the oral tellings of the hawaiians. Preserving old prayers, songs, legends, and the history of the islands going back 1500 years…..kinda dry reading but interesting nonetheless.

    I’m also a BIG fan of the music of the islands. Attended a slack key guitar festival on Maui about 6 years ago, and have been teaching myself that style of guitar playing ever since….recommended listening would be HAPA, George Kahumoku, and Amy Hanaiali’i Gilliom (she sings like a bird).

    If you ever get over to Maui, there is a pretty decent, but dusty, shooting range on the main Lahaina Highway. It’s located just outside of Lahaina going towards Ka’anapali. I didn’t have any of my guns when I was there, but stopped in to take a look. Not a bad place to shoot.

    so where are you settling once you get off of the island?

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    jaybear - sounds like you’ve lived here longer than I have! A nice slack key tune can be very relaxing. I’ve got some Kahumoku. Gotta check out the other two.

    Lot of bad people on both sides of Hawaiian history, but in today’s world, only the Haole gets full credit. Again, reminds me of another independence movement based on race.

    There is a gun range here on Oahu by Koko Head cinder cone. Never been there. Not much point if you have no guns with you.

    High points in six years (in no particular order):

    1) Hiking to Pu’u’ O’o’ cinder cone four times
    2) Bumping into Brook Mehealani Lee, who could have me on the first date with or without a deck of cards
    3) Kayaking in Kaneohe Bay
    4) My daughter’s wedding at the Marine Corps Base
    5) Brook Lee
    6) Swearing two of my kids into the Marine Corps
    7) Visits from family
    8) Great coworkers and friends
    9) The Ko Olina Luau and Radasha, the most elegant hula dancer on the planet
    10) Seeing twelve (!) fully armed F22A Raptors up close and personal
    11) The view from atop Diamondhead
    12) Watching humungus waves on the North Shore
    13) Waimea Falls
    14) Did I mention Brook Mehealani Lee?

  158. MasterGuns, Imperial Marine Comment by MasterGuns, Imperial Marine

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    Major:

    If you ever come near Cherry Point/Camp Lejeune area…..let me know.

    Semper Fi

  159. LC Wil Comment by LC Wil

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    Jaybear and The Major:

    During my Army sponsored All-Expense-paid Vacation in Hawaii, I went to the Army Range at Fort DeRussy. I was an MP, but civillians wee allowed (after paying appropriate fees, of course).

    I don’t know if that is still the practice, but it was a decent range. Had to bring your own targets and such.

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    158. Comment by MasterGuns, Imperial Marine

    Major:

    If you ever come near Cherry Point/Camp Lejeune area…..let me know.

    Semper Fi

    MasterGuns, it just so happens my very sweet and almost Lance Corporal daughter has been assigned to Cherry Point! Arriving weekend after next. Oh, the son-in-law, too. She’s coming from San Diego where she’s in the process of completing her training in aviation electronics repair. There is a waiting list for housing, so she doesn’t know where she’s going to live yet. Know of any small home or apartment rentals in the area suitable for a struggling young Marine? Oh, and her husband…

    Master Gunny, I was the rebel Black Sheep of the family. Father and brother were - strike that - ARE Marines, and two of my three adult children are Marines. I probably would have been one too if I hadn’t been so damn busy butting heads with the old man. I did wear an honorable military uniform, and served the best I could, but not in the uniform I’m sure my father would have wanted me in. I did, however, have the great honor of taking care of scores of Marines. One a Bronze Star/Purple Heart recipient. Recovering from a shattered leg received while successfully fighting off an ambush, all he wanted to do was get back to Afghanistan and help his buddies pack out. One dedicated and heroic sonofabitch! But he was certainly not unique! The majority of Marines I met were anxious to get overseas and kick some ass, especially the ones who had already been there before.

    I’m sure I’ll be in the Cherry Point area in the near future. Can’t be away from my little girl for too long! First beer is on me!

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    LC Wil, where is this range you speak of. I am seriously close to Fort DeRussy right now!

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    Jaybear and Wil
    Hi, I’m pretty sure it was you two that recommended I read “The Federalist Papers.” I know JayB was one. I promise I will..someday. i wanted to mention something I thought was funny. I told a friend that a couple of people on this site recommended i read the FP: “Boy, they know how to have a good time.” (She’s actually very intellectual.)

  163. SoCalOilMan, LC Comment by SoCalOilMan, LC

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    PC
    If you go to Barnes and Noble you can pick up “The Federalist” for $9.98 + tax (hard copy). It’s in the History section.

    I would also recommend “The Heritage Guide to The Constitution” edited by Ed Meese. It gives explanations of why the a section was included and the arguments against them that were brought up.

    I’ve been reading both of these since Christmas and still have a long way to go. I read a part of one, then take some time to think it over. I am constantly amazed at the foresight shown by these men.

  164. LC Wil Comment by LC Wil

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    Major:

    LC Wil, where is this range you speak of. I am seriously close to Fort DeRussy right now!

    It’s been (quite) a few years, but the range was about a quarter mile north-west of the Halekoa. It was actually closer to Ala Moana Blvd than to the beach. Large building, looks like a metal barn from the outside.

    Ala Moana Boulevard still a parking lot 22 hours a day?

  165. LC Wil Comment by LC Wil

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    BTW, you’re not bloging from the titty low-rent bars bars a block away, are you?

  166. LC Wil Comment by LC Wil

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    PC:

    My bookmark file got corrupted a few days ago, but both the Federalist and the Anti-Federalist are available gratis on line.

    I can also recommend “A Familiar Exposition on the Constitution” By Joseph Story. It was written while Joe Story was still on the bench as one of the ORIGINAL Supremes, in, like, 1805. Available thru the Heritage Foundation.

  167. psychochick Comment by psychochick

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    SoCal
    Thanks. I actually have a spouse who runs a bookstore. I can place an order, but I have to pester him and eventually send an e-mail. I like the reading in chunks idea–that makes it seem less intimidating.

    I never liked Ed Meese, but that does sound like a very interesting book. I’ll give some thought to getting that one.

  168. psychochick Comment by psychochick

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    Wil
    Thanks! I’m usually up in the middle of the night on the computer. Sounds like a worthwhile way to spend my time.

    I’m curious about the Anti-Federalist, but I can look it up.

    Remember that Talking Heads song: “Too much information running through my head.”?

  169. SoCalOilMan, LC Comment by SoCalOilMan, LC

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    PC
    Meese was just the head of the Editorial Advisory Board. There are actually 100+ contributors. Meese just wrote the overview.

  170. LC Wil Comment by LC Wil

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    PC, the Anti-Federalist papers were written by the people opposed to a weak central government.

    In broad terms, The Federalists were arguing for the majority of the soverign powers to stay close to the people - that is, the State and Local Governments, and envisioned the Federal Government as primarily useful for Foreign Policy, wars, and regulating and coordinating affairs between the States.

    The Anti’s were arguing that there was a need for a very strong Central Government, and the States and Local Govts primarily just for minor stuff.

    ————

    They both make very interesting reads. I like to read on line, as I find myself more and more in front of some type of CRT, mostly waiting for someone else to get off the dime and lots of spare time to read.

    And, you are certainly most welcome! Anything to be of service to a Lady!

  171. jaybear Comment by jaybear

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    LC Wil sez:

    Ala Moana Boulevard still a parking lot 22 hours a day?

    hell it was a parking lot when my wife and I honeymooned there in 1984.

    Since we’re doing book recommendations, I’ll submit 1776 by David McCullough

    Tells the story of the first official year of the War for Independence. I’m about halfway through it right now and might re-read it when I’m through.

    Another recommended read is 1066: The Hidden History of the Bayeux Tapestry. Tells the story of the Norman Conquest of England and the story of the tapestry of Bayeux, how it was created and what it really says…. If you’re into medieval history, this is a great book.

  172. LC Wil Comment by LC Wil

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    Jaybear:

    hell it was a parking lot when my wife and I honeymooned there in 1984.

    We may have crossed paths. That was my first trip, arriving in spring of 1983. This was my personal proof that fate has a sense of humor. My first wife filed for divorce because I was deployed too often and too long with the Fifth ID at Camp Swampy.

    Three days later, I got my orders for Fort Schafter.

    HA HA! [/nelson]

  173. jaybear Comment by jaybear

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    Wil:

    We may have crossed paths.

    If you were anywhere near Pearl Harbor or the Royal Hawaiian then it’s a distinct possibility. We only spent two days there then went over to Kauai for a week.

    My clearest memory of Oahu was the trip to Pearl Harbor, it’s an event that I’ve studied up on a lot and I was giving my new wifey the dime tour, showing her the routes the different Japanese planes took…i.e. where the torpedo and low level fighter bombers came from and where the high level and dive bombers came from, and pointing out where the various ships were tied up at the time of the attack. I noticed that there were a group of tourists (some Japanese) gathering around us, and as we moved THEY moved with us, getting closer as I got into more detail about the attack. They must have stayed with us for about 2o minutes, listening to my dimestore tour and when I finished, one of the tourists snapped my picture and thanked me for a very informative tour.

    Same thing happened to me at Gettysburg about 15 years later while leading a friend around the field. I need to keep my mouth shut and just take in the history, I’m not really qualified to give historical tours….although it would be one hell of a GREAT job.

  174. MasterGuns, Imperial Marine Comment by MasterGuns, Imperial Marine

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    Major asks:

    Know of any small home or apartment rentals in the area suitable for a struggling young Marine? Oh, and her husband…
    =====================================
    Avoid Town and Country Realty in Havelock if they can. Real Estate Management Incorporated(REMI) on the other hand, has a very good reputation and handles many lower cost small houses(2-3 bdrm). They have an office right outside the main gate.

    There are also zillions of mobile homes for rent in the Newport area and in Havelock proper.

    Depending on what is wanted/needed….a small 2 bdrm house can be rented for 4-500 bucks a month. There are quite a few older(50 or more years old) usually on the market in Havelock.

    Mobile homes run anywhere from a couple hundred for a dive to as much as 700+ for a nice double-wide with a nice yard.

    Many landlords have no problem with pets as long as a deposit is paid.

    There are limited apartments in the area but there are some available for a moderate price.

    If I was them, I would probably look real hard at Newport….close to the base and easy access to US Hwy 70.

    Morehead City has about anything a big city does in terms of shopping etc and is only 20 or so miles east of the base. New Bern is about the same distance west and also has just about anything that may be needed.

    Hope this is helpful.

    Semper Fi

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    Morehead City…great name, great town…I get there about 4-5 times a year, delivering RVs(great retirement gig) to Sand Castle RV on 17…little bar on the waterfront(damn name escapes me now)…serves the best sammys around.

    hOOt

  176. The Major Comment by The Major

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    Hey Gunny,

    Been tied up and I have to get going again in a few minutes. I talked to my little girl at length last night and found out she is actually headed to MCAS New River. Oh, and her husband, too. The arrival time is the same. Any advice for the Jacksonville area?

    Very busy day today…

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    Oh, and my other Marine is getting pounded by Typhoon Man-yi. It looks like the eye is about 20-30miles south of Camp Foster.