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Rope. Tree. Judge. (UPDATED)
Posted by: Emperor Misha I in "Law" of the Land, Useless Swine11:20 AM
You know the drill… (via LC & IB Patterico, with a generous assist from Sir Christopher).
Charges against a man accused of raping and repeatedly molesting a 7-year-old girl have been dropped because the court took too long to find an interpreter fluent in his native West African language.
Montgomery County Circuit Judge Katherine D. Savage dismissed the nearly three-year-old case against Mahamu Kanneh last week, saying the delays had violated the Liberian immigrant’s right to a speedy trial.
I. Have. No. Words.
No, wait, that’s a lie. I do, so if you’re planning on reading on past this, you’d better hide the children to keep them from accidentally looking over your shoulders. Preferably with their grannies if they live in the next county over.
“This is one of the most difficult decisions I’ve had to make in a long time,” Savage said from the bench Tuesday. She said she was mindful of “the gravity of this case and the community’s concern about offenses of this type.”
Oh yes. I’m sure you were positively torn to pieces with grief, much like the genitals of that seven-year-old girl after the fucking Neanderthal repeatedly raped her. You poor, poor thing. How my heart aches for you, thinking about the heartache, HEARTACHE that you must have gone through. Why, it makes the terror, pain, humiliation and psychological destruction of that little girl positively pale in comparison.
You filthy, stupid, inexcusably atrocious cunt. You worthless, oozing sore on the scrotum of humanity. You “couldn’t find an interpreter, so you had to let him go”, eh? Well, perhaps you should’ve tried a bit harder, you inept, child rapist-coddling, numbskulled poster girl for retroactive abortion. You know, like these people did:
The Washington Post reported that it identified three Vai interpreters Thursday with help from the National Association of Judiciary Interpreters, including one in Gaithersburg.
It’s not like you had Three. Fucking. YEARS or anything. But I guess that you and your staff can’t be arsed to do everything in your powers to ensure that a brutal serial child rapist lands behind bars where he can molest no more. Oh no. That would be too much like doing your actual fucking job, now wouldn’t it, you lazy, slackjawed bottom sludge of the quota hire barrel.
So you’re “mindful of the gravity of the case”, are you? Well, you can start by telling that to the child he brutally raped as well as her family, and then you can tell it to his next victim, now that you’ve set him free to rape, molest and mutilate at will. Ever looked into the recidivism rate of child molesters, you slobbering, bovine butt end of the legal profession? Or would that be too much like work for you too?
Prosecutors at first maintained Kanneh could understand the proceedings without translation into his native Vai, a tribal language that linguists estimate is spoken by about 100,000 people mostly in Liberia and Sierra Leone.
Prosecutors pointed out that Kanneh attended high school and community college in Montgomery and spoke to detectives in English.
And it seems that they’re right too.
But hey, I’m sure that there are subtle legalistic differences between English and his highly refined tribal language, developed over centuries of deep thought among the brilliant legal minds of his village elders.
A court-appointed psychiatrist recommended that an interpreter be appointed and judges who handled subsequent hearings heeded that advice.
Gee. I wonder how much the defense counsel paid that psychiatrist to pull that recommendation out of his arse?
But officials could not find a competent interpreter of Vai who would stay.
The first interpreter stormed out of the courtroom in tears because she found the facts of the case disturbing.
Sounds like they should’ve let her preside over the case instead of “judge” Savage. At least it would appear that she had a moral compass, something that the cow actually presiding obviously wasn’t in possession of.
A second interpreter was rejected for faulty work.
I wonder who filed that motion? Damn, that’s hard to guess. Nope, I got nuthin’. But how, pray tell, did they find out that it was “faulty” if they didn’t have an interpreter? The mind boggles.
A third Vai interpreter was located, but at the last minute, that person had to tend to a family emergency.
In recent weeks court officials had found a suitable interpreter, but Savage ruled that too much time had already passed.
Saved by the bell, huh? Well, saved by the judge, actually.
“You found an interpreter, you say? Well, er, OOPS! Look at the time! Off you go, Mr. Child Rapist.”
Here’s to hoping that the knuckledragging swine of a rapist suddenly develops a taste for middle-aged women. In robes.
Thatisall.
UPDATE: Interesting:
Court records, meanwhile, show that an interpreter was “sworn” by a Maryland court on the same day Savage dismissed the case, FOXNews.com has learned.
Loretta Knight, a clerk with the court system in Montgomery County, Md., claimed she had been unable to find an interpreter to stay on the case, even after an exhaustive search that included the Liberian Embassy and courts in 47 states.
But a look at the court docket for July 17, the day the case was dismissed, shows the entry “Interpreter sworn.” Several items below in the docket, Judge Savage “grants defendant’s oral motion to dismiss case based on a speedy trial violation.”
So the very day a qualified interpreter is sworn in and present during the entirety of the proceedings, “Judge” Savage decides to dismiss the case in response to a hastily submitted oral motion? Gee, I wonder why defense counsel suddenly remembered the whole “speedy trial” bit on the exact same day that their delaying game was over?
Particularly since “speedy trials” weren’t always all that important to them:
The Washington Post reported, however, that Kanneh had waived his rights to a speedy trial.
So defendant initially waives his right to a speedy trial in order to drag out proceedings with all of the little reindeer games that his counsel can think of and then, once they run out of tricks and the last one has reached its sell-by date because an interpreter shows up, they suddenly change their minds and insist that the case be dismissed on grounds that the right that they themselves waived has been violated?
And the “Judge”, being the cupid stunt that she obviously is, immediately forgets that little fact and dismisses the case.
Suuuuuure, she was only acting in the way that the law demanded that she act.
I have somebody on line two… Something about a beautiful bridge in Brooklyn that has just been placed on the market.
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If I recall correctly, the national language of Liberia is ENGLISH!
This is sheer lunacy.
Excuse me while I go out and punch some holes and make some noise before my aggressive tendencies get me in trouble and arrested. Hmmmmmmm…..I could demand a Korean interpreter and then not understand what he was saying! Naaahhhh……won’t work here in the land of us rednecks……we’re smarter than that.
Dumbass bitch.
Semper Fi
July 23rd, 2007 at 11:33 AMUsing
Speechless. Just Fucking Speechless.
Montgomery County once again showing it’s hopeless liberal ideology. The county that pioneered sex ed (sans parental permission) for 8th graders covering gay sex, complete with videos displaying how to put on condoms and public smoking bans. They’re proud of their enlightened, liberal government.
It’s a suburb and bedroom community of DC, just to save our loyal readers from bothering to look it up.
Lots of Trees, Nice trees, perfect for a proper length of rope.
July 23rd, 2007 at 12:06 PMUsing
Is this guy a citizen? If so, why did he need an interpreter again? Oh, I’m sorry, we have to have “Diversity” now, so he doesn’t have to be expected to understand English. Oh, but wait, he did understand English, just not enough so that a
molly-coddling snotragpsychiatrist could decide he didn’t need an interpreter. Besides, in the amount of time he spent awaiting trial, he could have been taught enough more English to bring him up to enough competency for a trial.I had only skimmed over the article before, and didn’t see the part about him speaking High School level English, so now that makes it even worse for me. A
psycho-babbling cretinpsychiatrist suggested that someone who had attended both High School and College in this country needed an interpreter? Why aren’t these schools being investigated for failiing to teach their students? Oh, wait again, that’s normal nowadays, isn’t it?What a load of excrement.
July 23rd, 2007 at 12:09 PMUsing
So what do you say when someone asks your for a budlight? Chorus- “Me no speak English.” Well I guess we have a statute of limitations on hideous crimes now. I have three daughters. This is ” ” I can’t find a thesaurus that includes a term to describe how awful this is. Considering I heard on satellite radio that the guy attended high school here and could, you know, actually speak English.
July 23rd, 2007 at 12:09 PMUsing
Any bets the judge is a democrat?
If not, then Republicans are doomed.
July 23rd, 2007 at 12:21 PMUsing
Misha the animal: Bereft of any moral sense whatsoever…
What can you say about a “man” who openly agitates for the murder of a judge?
Is such a “man” stupid?
Morally incompetent?
Simply unfit to live in a civilized society?
All three?
Misha has already made it clear that w…
July 23rd, 2007 at 12:42 PMUsing
#4
I have three daughters as well, and am with you in being unable to find a word that accurately conveys my reaction to this. All I can say is that if this were my child, and our justice system failed her in this way, then MY justice system would send this shit ball on to his maker for immediate sentencing with no appeals.
#6
July 23rd, 2007 at 12:54 PMMove to Montgomery County ……. please.
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Jeez, meat, was it as bad as this:
Go piss up a rope.
Misha, you are nuts on, as usual. This ‘Judge’ had better pray that none of this kid’s relatives are in the mood for direct action.
July 23rd, 2007 at 12:58 PMUsing
Let me finish that for you, TM.
Lessee here. If I can condense this correctly: A “judge” lets a child rapist go, because the court botched it’s job of finding an interpreter for an immigrant who spoke perfectly good English… a man who raped a 7-year-old (and by all rights should be assuming room temperature)…
Said “judge” then attempts to justify this by claiming:
BULL-FUCKING-SHIT.
You are defending a “judge” who sets child rapists free, asshole.
…and you presume to call Misha an animal?
July 23rd, 2007 at 1:04 PMUsing
Well, lookie here. It appears that (non)ThinkingMeat(head) has reared its ugly head once again. OK, how about this, meathead? Furriner child-rapist who can’t speak English (but wait, he CAN!!) and gets off because the c*%t of a judge decided they can’t find an interpreter, when he DOESN’T FARKING NEED AN one!!!!1!!1111!!!1ONE
Shackles, small tactical nuke, furriner’s asshole.
Some assembly (and safe distance) required.
And throw the damn judge into the slammer for good measure!
There, meatstick, good enough for ya?
Bastards, all.
July 23rd, 2007 at 1:06 PMUsing
Hey, TM:
Fixed it for ya. Suck on that, loser.
July 23rd, 2007 at 1:08 PMUsing
I am fairly certain that the judge could easily have ordered the state to locate an interpreter — even if one had to be flown over from Liberia at the state’s expense.
Speedy trial is typically within 90 days for those incarcerated, and one year for those free on bond. Extensions to those rules are routinely granted for valid reasons (scheduling, conflicts, etc.).
But three years to find an interpreter?
Fuckin-A, he could have learned English in that period of time!
Personally? I have a form of communication that I am sure he would understand: a baseball bat.
Any bets the judge is a democrat?
I wondered how long it would take before someone tried to make this political.
As deplorable as all this is, it is not the responsibility of the Judge to provide interpreters, attorneys, or psychologists, etc. It is up to the state or county. Court services, which is part of the court but not supervised by the judges, is typically the ones responsible for providing interpreters. The judge is supposed to be out of the loop for the purpose of being totally impartial. She can order an interpreter, but she cannot provide one.
July 23rd, 2007 at 1:16 PMUsing
DJ, Put in a nail protruding from that baseball bat and we finally agree on something.
Pass me a beer Misha, I think I am gonna faint!!!
July 23rd, 2007 at 1:34 PMUsing
A story of a serial-child-rapist being released by an obviously incompetent judge… and TM reserves his outrage for MISHA.
I think this one needs to re-examine his priorities.
- MuscleDaddy
P.S. - The Liberian Embassy in D.C. is 14.8 miles from Rockville, MD (where the court is).
http://maps.google.com/maps?f=d&hl=en&geocode=&saddr=rockville,+MD&daddr=5201+16th+St+NW,+Washington,+DC+20011&sll=38.952596,-77.036369&sspn=0.003796,0.007231&ie=UTF8&z=11&om=1
Why do I think they might have been helpful in finding an (unnecessary) interpreter in under 3 years…
July 23rd, 2007 at 1:39 PMUsing
MuscleDaddy
I would hazard to guess that even the Liberian Embassy doesn’t have anyone who speaks Vai. They do all their work in English, the official language of the home country.
July 23rd, 2007 at 1:51 PMUsing
I refuse to click on Stinking Meat’s™ attept to get his hit meter to show a better score then zero.
As a father and as some one who speaks more then one language our Imperial Grand Poobah, Misha, has the right to call the judge on her crime. As a father of two girls myself I show much restraint due to my belief in the rule of law.
Hang the lot and let the new batch know their limits!
NO MATTER WHAT!! Do not let our families be set upon by these predators
They have stripped citizens of the ability to remove these odious bench warmers and whether I, or a major portion of a community wants them removed and censored it won’t happen till they are shuffled off by an annoyed politition or they die. Read Mark Levin’s “Men in Black” and see how rotten it is from the top down.
July 23rd, 2007 at 1:53 PMSo the meat popsicle thinks Emp Misha will enrage some one into an act of violent retribution? Better then being frozen with fear, unable to come up with any original thought of your own.
You’re an animal, TM…a sheep.
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Dave,
The guy went to high school and junior college in the states, so apparently, he knew it well enough to go to college.
ACK! WHAT AM I SAYING! They are very likely government schools. NO WONDER the guy can’t speak English. Prolly can’t read or write it, either.
And I have to agree with DJ on this one. It’s not political. It’s stupidity…whatever side of the political aisle the judge resides on.
July 23rd, 2007 at 1:56 PMUsing
Sick Bastards….
July 23rd, 2007 at 2:02 PMI couild not belive it when I saw that headline…….
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This is her Bio.
Surprisingly she seems to have child advocacy as her field. I just can’t see how this happened. Can’t she hold the damn court system in contempt for not getting an interpreter when directed to do so?
July 23rd, 2007 at 2:05 PMUsing
‘Shouldn’t bother y’self with questions beyond your technology. That’d be stretching some plug-fouled synapses a little too far.
July 23rd, 2007 at 2:05 PMNot that your comfort is any concern here, ya taliban pos.
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Since an incompetent judge let him off the hook, the next best thing, short of some old time Bernhard Goetz style vigilante justice, is to get him out of the USA. If he is a naturalized citizen, revoke his citizenship and deport his criminal ass back to Liberia.
Citizenship can be revoked if you Lied To The USCIS During The Naturalization Process. The USCIS would be able to take away his US citizenship if he withheld or misrepresented himself during the naturalization process.
Not admitting that he was/is a baby raping scumbag, in my opinion, constitutes misrepresenting himself.
July 23rd, 2007 at 2:16 PMUsing
And yet they could find 3 interpreters.
July 23rd, 2007 at 2:20 PMUsing
I just went over to debate ‘priorities’ with TM.
Then it turned out that MeatPie is one of those guys who posts a comment, lets you respond to it, and then goes back and edits the original comment - rather than standing by it or debating - as a method of attempting to invalidate your response.
Man I hate that insidious level of dishonesty.
- MuscleDaddy
July 23rd, 2007 at 2:20 PMUsing
They do that in their history classes too MuscleDaddy
July 23rd, 2007 at 2:30 PMUsing
Okay, lets try this again, and again and again…
Hyperbole (pronounced /haɪˈpɝbəli/ or “hy-PER-buh-lee”; “HY-per-bowl” is a mispronunciation) is a figure of speech in which statements are exaggerated. It may be used to evoke strong feelings or to create a strong impression, and is not meant to be taken literally.
Hyperbole is used to create emphasis. It is often used in poetry and is a literary device as well as a referendum.
Some examples include:
“He has a brain the size of a pinhead.”
“I could eat a horse.”
“I’ve heard that nine thousand and one times.”
“She is a hundred feet tall.”
(verbatim; the above was taken straight from Wiki, check it out if you must)
Oooh, nice way to assume the moral high ground is yours. Never mind that the point of the post was a *harmless lark, merely a man who should be on trial for the rape of a 7-year old girl who was let off for something he didn’t need in the first place, namely a translator which a short search through the Montgomery county yellow pages yielded 3 of to the first able-bodied person who actually, you know, looked one up.
What can you say about a QUOTE man UNQUOTE who so completely and utterly misses the point of a post?
You read my mind.
Misha has a strong moral compass, as you might just come to realize if you read here to do more than cherry-pick for shock value on your own tiny blog; if his doesn’t jibe with yours it’s because his isn’t relativistic. That’s *not a good thing, btw.
Talk about competency issues! If your idea of civilized society is one in which a man is allowed to walk after 3, count ‘em, THREE years of inept blundering trying to find him a translator he clearly didn’t need because he:
A) already SPEAKS ENGLISH,
B) went to school HERE, and
C) has English as his home country’s NATIONAL LANGUAGE,
then let me put it ’simply’ for you:
You are an *Ass. (hint: that last one there was the understatement)
*Antonyms to hyperbole include meiosis, litotes, and understatement.
July 23rd, 2007 at 2:35 PMUsing
Four things:
1. Speedy trial means different things in different jurisdictions. Not every state takes it as seriously as Washingon, DJ.
2. I see a presumption of guilt being made here. The genius of our country is that they have to PROVE it, rather than simply declare it. That means that on occasion, the bad guy gets away with it, which I find preferrable to having the local authorities being able to declare me guilty of a crime and pass sentance.
3. Having stated Number 2, I have to say that ths all went out way too long, the prosecutors should have scheduled a hearing to establish that there was no need for an interpreter, and should have moved heaven and earth to get this thing to trial sooner.
4. “Clueless Meat” uses hyperbole and invective to denounce (Like any good little socialist pole smoker) Misha’s invective and hyperbole. Apparently public scrwels have eschewed teaching the concept of irony, choosing instead to focus on smug condescension for the logically impaired. As for its insightful observations, apparently the tofu diet has taken its toll on CM’s synaptic activity. How…sad. Finally, the remark about cataloging rhetoric for years, it smacks a little too much of threatening to send me to the principal’s office to be taken seriously. My three-year old could do better.
Have I pissed everyone off now? Good.
July 23rd, 2007 at 2:41 PMUsing
How much engrish do you need to understand “Cut your shit off with a sledgehammer”??
July 23rd, 2007 at 2:51 PMUsing
10-4 BigDogg and it would be tempting to give him a taste of what he will experience for eternity! No further details necessary.
July 23rd, 2007 at 2:53 PMUsing
Blackiswhite,
As to #2 - I agree wholeheartedly with:
“The genius of our country is that they have to PROVE it, rather than simply declare it. That means that on occasion, the bad guy gets away with it…”
The issue at hand, however, is that the PROVING part never got to take place.
Doctor’s reports/assessments will never be heard, testimony will never be voiced, physical evidence will never be presented - all because someone didn’t get an interpreter for someone who didn’t need one in the first place (jokes about publicc school aside).
If a bad guy gets away because someone wasn’t able to make the case against him, that’s just the downside to having a system where you can’t just be declared guilty at whim.
Losing the bad guy under THESE circumstances - that’s just unacceptable.
If you see a presumption of guilt here, it’s because all we have to go on is the knowledge that the police & the DA both thought there was enough evidence to ARREST and PROSECUTE.
Evidence that the Defense never even had to ATTEMPT to REFUTE.
- MuscleDaddy
July 23rd, 2007 at 2:59 PMUsing
This tale of woe is indicative of a broken criminal justice system, not just an irresponsible judge. I suspect in this instance, it was the judge’s responsibility to obtain or appoint an interpreter, since there’s no indication that one side or the other was the hold-up. Often, the prosecutor will get an interpreter for a non-english speaking person’s case, then the defense will go ballistic, demanding one of their own–fair’s fair. Getting one, neutral appointed by the court is a sensible thing to do, but someone, in this instance the judge, needed to take responsibility to gitter done. If that’s not working out, it’s encumbent upon the persecuter either to get an interpreter for the state, submit one to the Court, or file a motion documenting that the defendant doesn’t really need an interpreter at all and pressing for the trial to proceed. The defense, whether court appointed or not, does not have to do anything, except sit and wait for an opening. That’s obviously what they did and the state at every level let them. The system works that way for a reason–to prevent prosecutorial abuse; to ensure that defendants are convicted on evidence, not by coercive “DA time”. An innocent man/woman could just as easily have been sitting in jail for 3 years as this possibly guilty one. That’s what makes the break-down of our state criminal justice systems all across this country so heinous–both the guilty and the innocent, whether defendants, victims, witnesses, or officers, are all disserved. Meanwhile, the feds and social programs soak up the tax base that once would have gone to grease the wheels of local justice. Still, bottom line, this guy should’ve been tried in english within 90 days of arrest and his ass fried within 48 hrs. of conviction. He can probably still be tried, convicted and jailed permanently, too, BTW–a speedy trial release is not an acquittal.
July 23rd, 2007 at 3:01 PMUsing
BlackisWhite, there’s also the fact that these cracks in the justice system ain’t closin’ up anytime soon until the prosecutor’s staff can be made more methodical, thorough and expeditious.
‘Been around long enough to know them salary folks in the gov’t will only “move Heaven and Earth” if it’s between them and the snackbar.
Like ya said..
The State dropped the ball by not re-scheduling.
Keeping the case deteriorating on hold in hyper-space until enough witness’s/basis/evidence/ comes apart to dump the whole thing is a common tactic used by both sides.
Wlecome to the squishy side of American Justice, where it’s bantered that it’s better for 10 con’s go free than 1 innocent be punished.
I think that’s the goin’ score these days too.
July 23rd, 2007 at 3:13 PMUsing
I was unaware that you could edit a comment as a subscriber. But hey, I can fix it so that when you edit a comment it will display a red “edited by” line at the bottom of the comment.
July 23rd, 2007 at 3:49 PMUsing
the prosecuting attorney’s office will most likely appeal the ruling, and will prevail IMO. “Speedy trial” is a constitutioanlly created & protected right. However, it’s codified on the state level such that the prosecutor must be ready to proceed in a specified number of days (90 days, 6 months, etc.).
the responsibility for ordering and providing an interpreter is not the prosecuting attorney’s job, but, a function of court administration. as such, the delays cannot be charged against the prosecutor.
it will be overturned on appeal.
July 23rd, 2007 at 3:55 PMUsing
I stand corrected, thanks,,
‘Just got an earfull of the same, from another source,,much closer..
The court must supply the translator, not the pros’ or def’.
July 23rd, 2007 at 4:10 PMUsing
I think it depends on whether the case was dismissed with or without prejudice.
I think you are right though, it isn’t over yet.
There is dismissed, and then there is DISMISSED:
Dismissal without Prejudice
A dismissal without prejudice that permits the reindictment or retrial of a defendant on the same charge at a subsequent date may be granted by a court acting sua sponte or after the prosecuting attorney has made a motion to do so. Only nonconstitutional grounds that do not adversely affect the rights of the defendant, such as the crowding of court calendars, might be sufficient to warrant the dismissal of a criminal action without prejudice.
Dismissal with Prejudice
A dismissal with prejudice bars the government from prosecuting the accused on the same charge at a later date. The defendant cannot subsequently be reindicted because of the constitutional guarantee against double jeopardy. A dismissal with prejudice is made in response to a motion to the court by the defendant or by the court sua sponte.
Jumping on the Judge for dismissal might be a bit premature. It doesn’t stop the state from refiling and starting the speedy trial clock all over again. But jumping on the court itself for dropping the ball and not providing a interpreter is apparently way overdue.
Where was the prosecutor during all of this? Surely, the state could have complained about the constant continuances because of the lack of a translater.
I know peeps that have goin’ all the way throo skool widdout beein’ able to speech. And dey’s born here. Word up.
July 23rd, 2007 at 4:27 PMUsing
A master at the use of hyperbole, and articulating an unacceptable miscarriage of justice within our jurisprudence system, be it incompetence or dereliction of duty. See my friend Beth’s description of hyperbole in Comment #25 above.
Hardly, want proof? He operates a blog, the volume of which you can only dream about as you masturbate and troll for hits. That doesn’t happen for stupid people, although sometimes exceptions occur. Suffice it to say that His Rottiness would safely IQ test a few orders of magnitude higher than your own pathetic self.
Considering the topic of the post, an incompetent justice system, allowing someone charged for a heinous crime involving an utter lack of morals. Your question answers itself or you’re incapable of understanding this post’s premise.
More properly unwilling to remain quiet and apathetic in a society where civility is a concept rapidly dying and moral equivocation is an acceptable political/culture tool of certain groups.
Maybe you should be afraid (and you are), because there are many here that agree with him completely, and pushed far enough pass our own moral compasses would be willing to go farther than hyperbole.
I’m sure you haven’t read any history so I’ll be generous. A document was signed on 7/4/1776 by a group of men, committing to just that.
Would the pathetic being calling itself “ThinkingMeat-Shit” conclude that they to were unfit to live in a civilized society? The King of England did.
Go on back to your pathetic little world, I see our other autistic, pole-smokin’ troll, Harley Race is a pal of yours, perhaps you two can get together for a circle-jerk.
Now be a good little wanker and sod-off.
July 23rd, 2007 at 4:33 PMUsing
I hear there’s a little bit of open space up in Alaska that could be put to use for him and those like him.
July 23rd, 2007 at 4:48 PMUsing
Washington doesn’t take it any more or less seriously than any other jurisdiction. A right to a speedy trial is a Constitutional issue and there is a lot of settle law dealing with it.
Washington, like any other jurisdiction has always found ways to extend speedy trial limits from the typical 90 days for incarcerated to well over a year or so in a few cases — sometimes it is to the benefit of the defense to put a trial off for as long as possible in hopes that witnesses might disappear or have faulty recollections.
Well said.
July 23rd, 2007 at 4:54 PMUsing
Not in the Berzerkly of the Atlantic. There are no Republicans in Montgomery County, MD.
There was a tape of this - - damn, “monster” just doesn’t get us there, does it? - - on one of the local TV stations. He speaks better English than the Judge.
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But, by all means, refuse to appeal this idiotic decision, and free this animal. Several parents are already waiting to “help him home” from the courthouse.
July 23rd, 2007 at 5:11 PMUsing
I’d just as soon you not, if it’s okay with Misha.
July 23rd, 2007 at 5:17 PMUsing
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July 23rd, 2007 at 5:25 PMUsing
We could ship him off to the Zone of Alienation, which is the area within 30 km (18.6 miles) of the Chernobyl Power Plant.
Bastards like him deserve to die a slow, painful death from radiation sickness.
July 23rd, 2007 at 5:27 PMUsing
Wie man in den USA Päderasten laufen lässt…
Einen ganz besonders schönen Homerun serviert wieder mal der "Anti-Idiotarian Rotweiler".
July 23rd, 2007 at 5:32 PM…
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I second that.
In this unique arena, it’s just better discipline.
Speak true or love the facial.
July 23rd, 2007 at 5:54 PMUsing
DJ,
I meant that Meatbrain does that on his site.
I called him out - he responded - I hit back - I went back later to see what he had to say, and his 1st response had grown an extra paragraph.
I just think that if someone’s going to publish his words, he should have to own-up and deal with them later, instead of changing it so that “it never happened”.
July 23rd, 2007 at 5:56 PM- MuscleDaddy
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GGGGGRRRR I simply CAN’T believe this judge-first, he spoke english so why would he NEED an interpreter????? Second, can’t they find one quicker than THREE YREARS?? It is not political-stupid is on both sides of the isle. To quote einstein-”only two things are infinite-the universe and human stupidity, and I am not even sure about the universe”
July 23rd, 2007 at 6:09 PMUsing
WooHoo!
My last comment at MeatBall’s site was ‘flagged as spam’!!!
No ad-hominems, no name-calling and no vulgarity from me - and he’s built me into his filter - I win!
- MuscleDaddy
July 23rd, 2007 at 6:12 PMUsing
Although the possibilities for mischef are endless, Third!
July 23rd, 2007 at 6:18 PMUsing
Just to satisfy my own idle curiosity, is it possible for one to ban a trackback? It is somewhat bothersome when a shit for brains, low life, no life, sperm burping, cum gargling, bottomfeeding, lower than whale shit piece of garbage like unthinking meat comes around here trolling for hits. Or new boyfriends.
Fucking whore.
July 23rd, 2007 at 6:29 PMUsing
Yep, I t’ink ya hit ’bout all the moonbat food groups..
July 23rd, 2007 at 6:38 PMUsing
Fourth! (Although it would be nice sometimes to go back and fix typos. Maybe if there was a way to show what had been edited. Perhaps with a different font color command? (Ah, fugeddabout it. If I really screw up my typOing, I can always ask one of the staff to fix it for me, right?))
July 23rd, 2007 at 6:51 PMUsing
I think that they reopened the case this morning. The bastard was provided with not 1 but 3 interpreters. One stomped off bawling because she could not stand the procedings, I am not sure what happened to #2 and #3 had a “family emergency”
July 23rd, 2007 at 6:55 PMUsing
Wait till that fuckin scumbag rapes a child that doesn’t belong to him because he thinks he can get away with it.
July 23rd, 2007 at 6:58 PMUsing
Well, mb say’s “We’ll wait for Cheapshot911 to explain…..”
Then he hit the spam-filter.
Wait forever bungflake,,I WIN!
July 23rd, 2007 at 7:22 PMUsing
Justice- noun
1.The quality of being just; fairness
2-a. The principle of moral rightness; equity
—b. Conformity to moral rightness in action or attitude; righteousness
Where is the justice for the girl who was raped?
Child. Rapists. Must. Be. Exterminated.
This miscarriage of a judge must be dis-barred and fined and or imprisoned.
Any bullshit red herring concerning the right to a speedy trial is patently absurd. Clearly, the resources were available. The judge had it within her authority to demand that the defense produce a qualified interpreter or be held in contempt.
July 23rd, 2007 at 7:23 PMUsing
PITY the feeble mind that can only think of one way to spell a word!
July 23rd, 2007 at 7:26 PMUsing
You vile, censoring, conservative, faggot hating….(sorry Wil, no smileys!)
July 23rd, 2007 at 7:30 PMUsing
Cheapshot, I just has to look up “defense” because I wasn’t sure if it was “c” or “s”.
Son of a bitch!
It’s both!
July 23rd, 2007 at 7:32 PMUsing
If I understand the software correctly, there are things we can do. Subject to Misha’s approval, of course.
I do that anyway, if I see it.
July 23rd, 2007 at 7:33 PMUsing
I was way ahead of youse…lol:
Comment by rightismight
OT but yet another story to make you want to bang your head against a wall repeatedly:
http://michellemalkin.com/2007/07/22/immigrant-child-molester-gets-off-because-of-lack-of-translator/
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July 23rd, 2007 at 7:41 PMUsing
I am beyond words. I am beyond anger. Misha, other loyal citizens, please forgive what I am about to say. I have seen firsthand the results of child rape. I have tried to care for little girls (and little boys) who have been raped by a “trusted” adult. That lowlife, cave dwelling son of a bitch lowlife bastard doesn’t need an interpreter. What he needs is five minutes with me, alone, in a soundproof room. You’ll be able to put him in a two gallon size baggie when I’m done with him, and I’ll cheerfully do the time for taking that bastard apart. He wants a speedy trial? So be it. Like I said, shouldn’t take more than five minutes.
July 23rd, 2007 at 7:47 PMUsing
And I DARE any left wing liberal to call me a bloodthirsty conservative to my face. I’ll cheerfully explain that I’m a concerned parent while peeling his skin from his bones.
July 23rd, 2007 at 7:49 PMUsing
Mahamu Kanneh? Is “Mahamu” a variant of “Muhammed”? Wouldn’t surprise me if it were.
July 23rd, 2007 at 9:01 PMUsing
I don’t understand why there is so much shock about this decision, remember Vermont? This is part of the liberal playbook. Those of you who wonder if she’s a Dem….DUHHHH HELLO (knuckles rapping on scull) Of course she is!! I don’t understand this particular tact by the left, but I think it falls in with wanting to teach kindergarteners how to masturbate with inanimate objects (thanks Jocelyn Elders) Oh, sorry, that’s now called “Age appropriate sex education” by the leftard pundits, abortion at will without parental consent, all that crap!! It’s the same sick shit by the usual suspects that Misha rips apart everyday!! Stay tuned, I have a feeling the outrage by NORMAL people will reverse this travesty. By the grace of God…..
July 23rd, 2007 at 9:08 PMUsing
and like clockwork, Polesmoker arrives to defend the indefensible:
July 23rd, 2007 at 9:09 PMUsing
In amongst the outrage, it also seems to have been overlooked that bail in this case was set at only $10K. Geez, that’s half of what ALgore’s stupid kid got for bail last month.
This was the topic on one of our local talk shows today; within twenty minutes the host had someone call in who could speak that dialect. And who also couldn’t believe the possibility of this pile of soft-serve not understanding English.
Heck, I’ll volunteer to be his interpreter. “Your honor, he said he did it, he’ll do it again, and he wants to know where your daughter lives”.
July 23rd, 2007 at 9:13 PMUsing
Steve
OK, bloodthirsty conservative for a very good cause (You’re no more bloodthirsty than most of this thread). Feel free to shoot me, but could we keep the skin-peeling to a minimum, since I’m not left-wing?
It must be very difficult to deal with incest victims. I hope you can help them some. Are they brainwashed to think they deserve it, like so many child abuse victims? Or are the ones you deal with too young to understand?
I love the trackbacks. They are generally very entertaining.
July 23rd, 2007 at 9:42 PMUsing
I only speak XZimabaooeetoaugiha. And I am the only one to speak it. Guess I can rape, torture and kill this judge with no worries, since there will be no way to try me, because nobody speaks my langauge. We sure don’t want an unfair trial, by golly. I know this judge would understand. No worries from her while being raped and tortured for days on end. No problem. She doesn’t mind any of that, so long as there is absolutely no chance of any bit of my civil rights being violated. Much better that she be raped and tortured for months than I be say subject to unreasonable search.
I’m not going to do it of course, but I do hope she encounters her well deserved karma. In spades.
July 23rd, 2007 at 9:47 PMUsing
Simply another good reason to oppose gun control…….justice could be done in one second or less, using one finger….savaing us all a lot of money and no doubt the sanity and future of another young girl now at risk. Of course lefties love this shit, it makes them feel useful, if helping slimebuckets like this can be called useful. Doesn’t say much for the lefties, does it? Not that one ever could. If my daughter ever got raped, or my wife, as my sister was, a twelve guage enema is in order….along with any left wing cocksucker trying to top me……I agree with Steve……totally.
July 23rd, 2007 at 10:10 PMUsing
I Second that motion Oilman! Let’s put that rat bastard molesting shitbird up in ANWR, to dig our oil out with a damn garden spade. The Judge can be sent with him …but the bitch will dig with her hands.
July 23rd, 2007 at 10:45 PMUsing
Oh, got it.
Victim, family member of poor Black.
Perp, poor Black.
Judge, White leftard commie scumbag who hates poor people anyway, and believes in The Goracle’s bullshit about global warmoning.
Justification: Ruin human life where ever possible to save the planet.
Kid probably used more than one sheet of TP so she deserved it. (In leftard land)
World saved, commies take over, everybody equal so sacrifice justified.
Sick, but this is what you get when Libs and Dems take power folks. All the more reason to keep your weapons
July 23rd, 2007 at 10:59 PMin working order. And don’t forget to stock up on ammo, they are coming for that too!!!!
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Just fer you, I won’t Spats. But you have to promise to take a Liberal to Lunch
BTW: When you edited (s)tinking Meat’s trackback, why did you forget that nifty little toy I made for you several months ago? (okay, go back up there and look…)
I work my fingers to the bone around here to give y’all toys to play with, and they just collect dust [sigh]
Actually, it is kinda difficult, but not impossible — until now. I just found a new plugin last weekend that will let you block out trackbacks fairly easy. Unfortunately, I am having some problems accessing this site from my home computer without first having to use Remote Desktop to access either my computer at work or go though my server at the datacenter.
Once I get access back, I will install that plugin.
Again, with the insinuation that LIBERALS would let this guy go.
Bullshit.
It might surprise you that when it comes to child molestation, THIS liberal is probably a lot more brutal and unforgiving than the lot of you combined. That, and a serious problem with revenge issues that goes back a ways.
This is one issue that makes left-right boundaries invisible. I challenge you to walk up to vitually anyone on the street and ask them what they think of child molesters.
Washington state, one of the more liberal ones in this country, was the leader when it came to increasing penalties for sex offenders, and the first for civil committment AFTER their sentences were completed. The courts have whittled some of that down a little, but the easy fix is to mandate life w/o parole for all sex offenders.
You read all that out of this story?
I hate to break it to you, but the judge really followed the constitution and the law on this ruling. Sometimes they have to make rulings that even they don’t like to make. That’s just the law. As Blackiswhite pointed out, sometimes the bad guy gets away. Better that than locking up innocent people. The law protects the innocent, not the guilty.
But I suspect that this case isn’t over by a long shot. The charges will be reinstated and the speedy trial clock will start again. THIS time, they will have all of their ducks in a row.
July 23rd, 2007 at 11:06 PMUsing
Never a sniper around when you need one.
July 23rd, 2007 at 11:29 PMUsing
I won’t even touch the debate about the failings of our legal system, and lib judges… Not on this issue. I have a very special, very dark place in my heart reserved for pervy fucks like that.
I’m all with Steve on this one, but no need for the 2 gallon bags. Just make sure the room has a floor drain, and I have access to a garden hose, and maybe a squeegee.
July 23rd, 2007 at 11:42 PMUsing
240 grain boattail.
2 ought to do it.
1 for the judge, 1 for the perp.
These judges let far too many child molesters go for it to be a cowinkydink.
July 24th, 2007 at 12:17 AMUsing
Having 5 children and two grandchildren (3 are sweet and precious daughters and one a very special granddaughter), I have often pondered what I would do if one of them were sexually assaulted and/or murdered. From my viewpoint, only a lobotomized bovine would trust the criminal justice system to dispense proper punishment upon these boils festering on societies’ already pock-marked backsides. Since I am neither a cow or a democrat, the great question is not “would I administer swift and terrible retribution,” read that “Justice,” but “what caliber, bullet weight, and delivery system would I use?” How does a 250 yard neck shot with a .300 WinMag sound? Maybe up-close-and-personal with a Glock 10mm Auto shoved up under the rib cage or a brain stem shot through the base of the skull? No idiot judge. No “technicalities.” No get-em-off-at-all-costs defense lawyer. No 12 year wait for the bastard to hang. Just ol’ tyme justice where a man has the right to avenge heinous crimes committed against his loved ones.
July 24th, 2007 at 12:43 AMUsing
As they sometimes say in Texas (or so I’m told):
He just needs killin’.
However, my mom and I both think that, in order for TRUE justice to be done, for the scales to truly be even, Child molesters should, when found guilty, be automatically sentenced to death. No commutation, no reprieve. Second, the parents of the victim should have the choice of carrying out the execution. If they choose to do so, they may exercise their imaginations as freely as possible. If they waive this, the method shall be hanging, using a new rope. And no access to spiritual “guidance” between conviction and execution. I want the fucker to roast in Hell after whatever imaginative sufferings the parents put him through.
Ok, so it probably goes against the 8th amendment. Frankly, though, I think a cruel and unusual crime deserves a cruel and unusual punishment.
July 24th, 2007 at 1:34 AMUsing
Trooper
July 24th, 2007 at 1:43 AMMost of the child molestations are from family and family friends. What would you do when it’s the father?
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TheCount
July 24th, 2007 at 2:30 AMI have to admit, I stole the idea from Bill O’Reilly. He opposes the death penalty (which I do not), but figured that life in the middle of nowhere Alaska busting rocks would be a good penalty. Don’t wanna bust rocks, don’t eat, wanna leave, it’s about 1,000 miles to anything and the trip ain’t gonna be nice.
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PsychoC…
…or MOTHER! Let us not be sexist!
Father rapes his 7 year old girl. Hmmmm… some schmuck of a father. TOBAS!!! Girl is much better off without him or the threat he may be released from prison to do it to her again.
BTW - The exact Texan quote is “The sumbitch is in need of a good killin’.”
BTW v2.0 - I’m back on the mainland AND a civilian now! Great to be home!
July 24th, 2007 at 3:21 AMUsing
Oh, psychochick, ask me, ask me!
Let’s see… Since my baseline when it comes to child molesters is death by torture, in this particular case, seeing as how it’s the parent doing it and thus not “merely” committing the most vile of crimes to begin with but actually abusing and betraying the bond and trust between parent and child on top of it?
I guess I’d have to torture him or her to death too, but in this case I’d really put my heart into it.
July 24th, 2007 at 4:35 AMUsing
Major and Misha
Major–it happens with women, but it’s way less common.
Don’t you think it’s going to traumatize the girl further if daddy is tortured to death? She probably already thinks the abuse is her fault–she will probably feel like his death is her fault.
Fanusi
July 24th, 2007 at 4:50 AMNormally I have the greatest respect for your intellect and envy your mastery of topics I have little familiarity of. However, to use an American phrase: Bite me! Nobody likes child molestation.
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It will, but you’ve got to realize that what happened affects more than just her. Her marriage, the way she raise her children, how she relates (trusts) people around her. It just keeps expanding about who is suppose to understand that bastards “unsurmountable” urge di for generations.
July 24th, 2007 at 5:21 AMUsing
Dave:
Kewel! Thanks.
Brutal and unforgiving, yes. More than, for instance, ME? No, Dave, you are too nice a guy to imagine the things I would like to do. Trust me, that’s probably a good thing. Mercy and absolution are the purview of Priests.
You and BiW are quite correct - sometimes the bad guy gets over. But sometimes Karma comes in the form of angry neighbors worried about their own kiddlids.
The judge in this case is indeed a Democrat Liberal, but that is more because of the lack of Evil Right Wing Conservative Death Beasts in Montgomery County, MD. It’s one of the most “blue” counties in America. Which should have no bearing on the facts of the case. He needs a good killin’
July 24th, 2007 at 5:47 AMUsing
Because I don’t have the button anymore, and I don’t remember the code off the top of my head…
July 24th, 2007 at 6:14 AMUsing
[…] judge dismissed the case against a West African accused of raping a 7-year-old girl on the grounds that they couldn’t […]
July 24th, 2007 at 8:01 AMUsing
Hey, her’s an idea - - I’ll be his interpreter!
” . . ferrin gobledegook . . ”
“Your Honor, Mr. Kanneh stated that he wishes to change his plea to Guilty as Charged, and that furthermore, we should ignore the lies coming from the pie hole of the Ambulance Chasing ACLU mouthpiece the court has appointed to make noise in his behalf.”
” . . more ferrin gobledegook . . ”
“Your Honor, Mr. Kanneh also says he wants to throw himself on the mercy of the Skanky, Uppity, misbegotten Daughter of Satan presiding over this sham of a trial.”
” . . still more ferrin gobledegook . . ”
“Excuse me, Your Honor - that was UGLY, Skanky, Uppity, misbegotten Daughter of Satan presiding over this sham of a trial. My appologies.”
” . . even more ferrin gobledegook . . ”
“Oh, and Death to America.”
July 24th, 2007 at 8:13 AMUsing
I have a suggestion:
Instead of throwing invective and hyperbole at the judge, perhaps someone living in Montgomery can start a recall?
Most local judges are elected … but even if they are non-partisan positions, there is usually a recall provision in most State’s election laws.
Generally, any judge or politician subjected to a recall loses the next election, even if they survive the recall effort.
July 24th, 2007 at 9:46 AMUsing
No, it is the Rule of Law, in a nation of laws. Would you rather have the judge rule on her emotions?
I doubt that this or any other judge would have liked to let this defendant out of jail, but the law demanded it.
The Sixth Amendment to the US Constitution guarantees a right to a speedy trial. That right was dirived from the Magna Carta.
Something went terribly wrong in the system. There is no way any defendant should have to wait three years to go to trial — no matter what the reason is. The State has a responsibility to get that case to trial as quickly as possible, or dismiss the case without prejudice until a case can be made.
Everyone here is making the assumption that this person is guilty simply because he was arrested and held for three years. We don’t know that, because he hasn’t had a trial. Yet there are a lot of you ready to put bullets into his head (and the judge’s) based on what you are seeing as an outrage, or miscarriage of justice.
It is a miscarriage of justice. This should have been adjudicated two and a half years ago — two years ago at the latest. But it was dragged out for three fucking years, and the judge was forced to dismiss the case — at least for now.
Another assumption is that this judge has always been assigned to this case. We don’t know that from the news stories. For all we know, this judge was a presiding or motions judge that got the case after it had been going on for three years.
I doubt seriously that she made the ruling because she wanted to. She made the ruling because she had to follow the rule of law, to preserve the rule of law.
You cannot pick and choose which laws you are going to follow (unless you are a Republican, named Scooter)
Are you going to find out whether he or she is guilty first, or are you going to determine that during the course of torturing?
I have to work at being nice here.
Honestly? I have not always been a “nice guy”, not by any stretch of the imagination. The difference between you and me is that there are some things you would “like to do” and there are things that I HAVE already done and would rather not think about any more.
So let’s just leave it at that.
July 24th, 2007 at 11:12 AMUsing
The miscarriage of justice exists whether he is guilty or not. As to the kind and loving things that I and others would like to do to the animal child rapist, they are, I assume (and know where I personally am concerned), contingent on him actually being guilty.
Something that will be hard to ascertain now that Judge Bleeding Heart conveniently forgot the defendant’s voluntary waiver of his speedy trial rights and dismissed the case while a sworn in, qualified interpreter was in the friggin’ courtroom.
And no, her potentially having had the case thrown at her at the last moment is no excuse. If she can’t be arsed to acquaint herself with the most basic details of a case prior to passing judgment, then she has no business being the judge of anything.
Again, that would be contingent on the insect being guilty. I’d truly hate to skin somebody alive and watch while they bleed/dehydrate to death, only to find out that I got the wrong person.
July 24th, 2007 at 11:47 AMUsing
Sire,
July 24th, 2007 at 12:03 PMThis is worth an update: Seems an interpreter WAS found for the accused and was shown as checked IN on the court documents, when:
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My bad. I must’ve missed the update of the update. (could have sworn I looked, but…chalk it up to more adult onset CRS - it’s a pesky and insideous disease)
July 24th, 2007 at 12:26 PMUsing
Okay, I have seen some more on this story, and am now revising my position a bit:
From WaPo:
Speedy trial waivers are not open-ended. The waiver typically lasts until the next court date, and the time between tolls. This prevents a defendant from being held in legal jeopardy indefinately without a disposition.
It is unclear in this case how long of a period was granted for the independent DNA analysis. A month? Three months? More?
I disagree with the public defender’s assertion. The defense used tactical maneuvers to delay the trial. No defense attorney is going to want to chance taking a case like this to trial immediately. Delays in the case only benefits the defense because the longer the time, the more the witnesses memory is challenged.
How did the public defender communicate with the defendant?
The motion was filed a week before the newest interpreter was brought into the court. The judge had to rule on the motion file nunc pro tunc, even though an interpreter had been installed for the motions hearing.
It is my understanding that this judge was not the trial judge, but only the motions judge. (there is a difference)
It seems to me that since there was an interpreter available at the motions hearing, and the fact that the court had made three previous attempts to accomodate the defendant, the trial should have been allowed to proceed.
I also think that the prosecution shares some blame in this because they should have been able to demonstrate that this was nothing more than a delaying tactic. Surely they could have found some credible witness who could show that the defendant was quite capable of speaking and understanding English.
July 24th, 2007 at 1:01 PMUsing
PsychoC - I feel better knowing that you are not a sexist! As far as traumatizing the little girl by having “daddy” hanged, drawn and quartered? I would hope the child is already under the supervision of CPS and being treated for any physical and emotional sequelae secondary to her abuse. She will come to understand that she was not at fault because “daddy” is an irreversibly sick, fungating wart on societies’ ass that needed to be removed for her, and every other little girl’s protection. In the long run, I’m sure she would fare much better psychologically if the rat bastard were dead rather than continuing to pose a threat to her by walking free… and to the rest of us by continuing to steal oxygen.
By the way, the details of the traditional meaning of being hanged, drawn and quartered are quite… refreshing! The perfect punishment for this gargantuan, daughter-raping sack of shit!
July 24th, 2007 at 1:24 PMUsing
A large percentage? That is utter Bullshit.
And any mentally inferior being that actually believes in a creator must bow or be crushed? After all, religion is merely superstition writ large, right? Bad news; human progress is an oxy-moron. The very situation that led to this topic of discussion proves this to be true. What kind of a “progressive” world would have (accused) child molesters and inept, or corrupt judges? Certainly by now (how long have humans inhabited the earth, 10 million, 100 million years?) progressive humanity would’ve nailed it. Utopia. No crime. No hate. No IRS. But, all of those evils persist and fester.
Actually, the statement that Psychochick made was “Nobody likes child molestation.” She is correct. With the exception of some fringe lunatics, Nobody likes child molestation.
July 24th, 2007 at 1:48 PMUsing
Exactly — in today’s culture and society.
Sure, you could go back in history a thousand years or so and you will find that attitudes were a lot different then. Muslims didn’t invent the concept of men marrying young girls. We just know of the most famous Muslim marrying a six year old, that’s all. He consumated the marriage when the girl “became a woman” at nine. (in ancient cultures, a girl became a woman when she menstrated, just as a boy became a man at puberty) There was no prohibition of grown men marrying very young girls or having sex with them as they reached “womanhood”.
We look at it now as something sick and disgusting — and it is to OUR society standards. But it was quite common place amongst a lot of societies and religions way back then.
Things were a lot different back then — life expectancy was shorter, infant mortality was higher, and the most important thing was propagation and continuing the family or tribe.
Have we “progressed” in our practices from then to now? You bet. We don’t accept that shit any more.
July 24th, 2007 at 2:54 PMUsing
Wil,
Bwahahahahahahaha!!! Wil, you’re a riot. Do you do parties?
July 24th, 2007 at 4:33 PMUsing
Sorry, Leoni2.
Some things I have to make a joke about. The alternative isn’t pretty.
As I am typing this, “Special Report” is right now reporting that this POS is completely free, and that there is a second victim.
Damn.
July 24th, 2007 at 5:17 PMUsing
Son of a bitch.
Per the local cops, he’s out and free.
The second victim is his 18 month old niece.
Nice picture, for “concerned citizens.”
July 24th, 2007 at 5:27 PMUsing
What the hell? One of the victims was 18 months old at the… and he’s now free? What in the hell is to keep the ass from flying the coop if the attorney wins the appeal? Unfucking believeable.
The bastard just need to be removed, no ifs, ands or buts about it.
July 24th, 2007 at 5:49 PMUsing
Maybe there will be a little bit of home brewed justice come down the pike for this guy. Someone might see him walking to his car in the grocery store parking lot and run over him on “accident” … two or three times.
July 24th, 2007 at 6:11 PMUsing
And look at these two wastes of semen.
Why do we keep them alive?
July 24th, 2007 at 11:13 PMUsing
Psychochick
If the guilty party is a parent, they lost any parental rights and privileges upon conviction. If the other parent chooses, they may exercise their imagination in the execution. I also stated that if the parent waived this option, the gov’t-mandated method of execution would be hanging with a new rope, so as to prevent a quick break of the neck. Let ‘em dance on air for the last 5 minutes of their earthly existence.
If the guilty party was the father, I am willing to bet the mother would be homicidally furious, and with the time a trial can take, given a fair amount of time to let her imagination go to work. Of course, if the guilty part was the mother, I have my doubts as to whether the father would be up to it. But again, the solution to that is the gov’t-mandated hanging.
My mother, though, was a bit more imaginative. She suggested (for males) staking them spread-eagled over a fire-ant nest, smeared with honey, paying particular attention to the genital regions, and keeping them hydrated and cool so that they receive the maximum pain from the fire-ants. I suggested the placement of a large-gauge (must be big enough for ants to get in and out) Foley catheter, with the insides coated with some ant-attracting substance.
“Who would have thought such a small creature could suffer so much pain?” — Mouth of Sauron
July 25th, 2007 at 12:29 AMUsing
Trooper
I hope you don’t have the background to appreciate this. Severe abuse is not just what is done with you. It’s a reprogramming of the mind, usually that you deserve it, or that it’s your fault. You become the mental abuser of yourself, possibly for decades. I wanted that intro for my points here.
My point–not expressed clearly–is that the girl is already traumatized and would go through life blaming herself for her father’s death (which is of course totally irrational). I can’t imagine how traumatic that would be for most girls (some would probably be glad). I think he should go to jail-not be hanging around the house. He probably deserves it, but don’t kill him for godssakes–you don’t want to drive her over the edge.
There are also more complicated and more rare scenarios–there are mothers that sacrifice their daughters so they don’t have to have sex with their husbands.
There are also people innocently convicted. There is a local case, but I had promised to keep it private.–Also sometimes the repressed memory hypnosis is not reliable, and grandfather really didn’t molest the girl.
Your mother sounds scary.
July 25th, 2007 at 1:24 AMUsing
SoCal
I had missed your post earlier–sorry. I think it was the Fanusi thing pissing me off.
I think getting married, raising kids, and having a normal life is part of why I don’t want Daddy executed. It’s really hard to get over abuse without having to feel guilty for the death of your abuser. Not everyone, but that’s what most people would feel. Better that she have a chance at a normal life.
This isn’t a bleeding-heart liberal thing–I have a strong background with various kinds of abuse and can make an educated guess about how women would react. I’m curious about the other person on the blog who was sexually abused as a child. I wonder if she would have a different opinion.
July 25th, 2007 at 2:12 AMUsing
Fanusi
July 25th, 2007 at 3:44 AMYou know–I was going to reread everything you said and give you a rational argument. However, I felt I owed SoCal a more immediate reply, and that my comment to him would be easier to make. I am not in the least blowing you off. I was going to post on the religious thread where I thought you would come. Jeez–you should have some idea that I wouldn’t be that disrespectful, although you have been highly critical of my political bent.
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PS. I’m tired. It’s late. I just got out of the hospital not that long ago. My mind is working, but my body is subpar. I want to do a good job of analyzing what you have to say, so I probably won’t do it tonight. I don’t have anything medical tomorrow–I will have time to work then.
“learn something”!! Could you be any more snide? Don’t treat me like some sort of imbecile. I could go on about my training, but it pisses people off. And you know what? I expect to learn something from your posts. I just said in the earlier post that I envy your knowledge in areas I lack.
So lose the attitude.
July 25th, 2007 at 3:59 AMUsing
Fanusi
I had planned to print out your posts and study them, but this is off the cuff. And probably a little loopy with all those goddamn things flopping around like little demons.
Anyway, I was talking within the US, which I did not specificy. I understand that you were talking about Islamic men taking 9 year old wives like the prophet did (yuch!). (barbarian tribes, I assume?)
However, in this country, it is pretty well-condemned: left/right, Christian/non. Obviously there are going to be exceptions. There is that Mormon offshoot cult along the Utah/Arizona border where they forcibly marry young women to older men and practice polygamy. (I was so happy when they arrested the leader). There are probably other cults around that do it, but I can’t think of them right now. There are probably some families that actively practice it as policy. (It’s totally unfair, but I can’t keep from thinking about that X-Files episode “Home.” I don’t think that is realistic.)
OK, I think I see what you mean–people who don’t bother to get involved. It’s the same way with spousal abuse. It’s dangerous in some neighborhoods to call the police on someone, not that that makes it okay to ignore it. With detached dwellings, you don’t hear the screaming as much (I was thinking of my childhood), but I’m sure it’s relevant for other people.
I will say that I and all my friends (mostly liberal) would intervene if we thought someone was being abused. Bleeding-heart liberals don’t like to see children raped any more than anyone else does. ” mercy’ and ‘feelings’ flood their brain who turn out to be the apologists for the worst kind of evil.” That’s really extreme. I am full of feelings; I am also analytical. In fact, I would argue that having a tendency to worry about the well-being of all sorts of people in society might enable one to detect evil while it’s still under the radar. Sometimes it’s the social workers that notice when street people start disappearing.
And as far as intellectuals apologising for crimes, you pick a really bizarre and abnormal incident. Apparenty, some people applauded it. How many? It’s a really out-there crime, but I bet heterosexual kids sometimes kill their parents to run away together. They probably don’t have intellectuals apologizing for them. If that’s the best you can do for examples, I doubt there are a huge amount of intellectuals supporting evil (in a social sense). It’s 4:51 AM, and I am not going to discuss political evil right now.
I hope this makes sense. usually I edit my posts to death, but didn’t this time. Sometimes generalizations are legitimate–there will always be exceptions.
I’m half-German, too, and agnostic.
Just for your earlier comments, I’m going to subject you to one of the little demons.
July 25th, 2007 at 7:08 AMUsing
You insufferable, psuedo-intellectual Prick!
Learn that the Pedophile Prophet married a nine year old? Not exactly an unknown around here.
Thank you for proving my point. Human kind in South Africa doesn’t seem very progressive, do they? My point, which you missed by a mile, is that denegrating religious beliefs by espousing Humanism is self-defeating, not that we haven’t improved in any way. Civilization is far superior to life in the wild.
Typical condescending tone of the superior intellect. There is a monumental difference between a societal norm such as age of consent (which I find appalling) and molestation in the sense we view it. And you are right, you CAN’T just assert something and not look like a complete idiot.
July 25th, 2007 at 8:50 PMUsing
The judge did her job. The case was 3 years old and Maryland law says a defendant has to be tried within 180 days. Some other monkey judge would have overturned it later on down the line if the was convicted. Blame the scumbag defense lawyers who played the system. Who would represent a prick like Kanneh?
July 25th, 2007 at 10:45 PMUsing
Actually, if the judge did her job, she would have known that this scumbag had waived his right to a speedy trial in order to do his own DNA research. Come to think of it, if the “justice” system had done its job to begin with, this guy would have been back in Liberia sucking on roots to stay alive, or fertilizing a shallow, unmarked grave somewhere.
People like this provide nothing positive to society. They are a zero sum gain to us all. Infact they take more than they ever contribute. Why do we continue to keep them around? Despite the fact that when a corn speckled piece of cow shit like this actually rapes a child, they cannot be brought back via therapy or counseling. So what do you do with them?
Double tap to the skull works for me.
July 25th, 2007 at 11:08 PMUsing
Fanusi
I’m glad you came back. I was up until 5 AM with that post. I’m never at my peak with you, because of the hour.
Was the lesbian case you were talking about made into the film “Heavenly Creatures?” I’m too tired to google. They did make it look bad when she hit her mother on the head with a rock.
So, these people go around pardoning horrible criminals to seem benevolent? So these people would not vigorously prosecute a child molestor? But wouldn’t that make them seem like a horrible person and be bad with their self-image?
“feelings’ flood their brain who turn out to be the apologists for the worst kind of evil.” I think I mentioned that before, but that’s fairly insulting. You can have feelings and set them aside to rationally assess a case or an issue. At least I can. And if you can’t, can’t you recuse yourself?
—I just realized that I shouldn’t argue based on how I would react. I am atypical in every respect. Other people would probably react differently than I would.
—My final comment on this would be that it would be in someone’s self-image’s interest to bring child molestation to justice.
It had been awhile since I’ve read a lot of incest literature, and it’s taken a little bit to come back. I guess it’s common for other members of the family to know what is going on and just ignore it. When I was commenting about “no one” before, I was thinking outside of the family.
I have read Mark Twain, although I don’t remember that piece–I’ll add it to the list. If I can get him to remember (usually takes an e-mail!), I can order anything and have it brought home to me at a discount. I’m glad you summarized the Dostoyevsky. People here keep telling me things I should read, and it’s way too much. Plus I want to read the Koran and make up my own mind. etc
You might appreciate this. Generally, people use the Bible for good these days, but I figured there would be twisted people that would use it as their justification for evil. There was a murder 32 years ago on the coast of Wash state where an unmarried Christian couple were sleeping in a tent and were shot in the head by a Jesus freak who didn’t believe that unmarried people should sleep together. Now there’s been almost an exact crime further south, and they are starting to look at unsolved homicides from the period in between. I was telling my neighbor about the case, and she said there was an almost identical murder here years ago (Cal–central coast). It was in the LA Times (so sue me!) a few days ago, if you want a link I can give you one.
So tell me about yourself–double major philosophy/history? graduate work? or did you do it all on your own? Or if you don’t want to here, look up what pufferfish toxin is called and add a 2 at the end at yahoo. (Maybe you know already–it’s fairly obscure)
Good night–the neurons have stopped firing.
July 27th, 2007 at 5:50 AMUsing
Fanusi
July 27th, 2007 at 6:38 AMPS. Never mind–I figured it out. I don’t know, though. I will have to read up a little more. I found it highly odd that the quotes didn’t have journal names associated with them. Some areas have definitely worked out.
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