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It seems the cats inside the beltway are scratching away at the litter trying to bury the “Shamesty 2007″ debacle and fallout, from the plebeian masses.

US Businesses Fear Illegal Foreign Worker Crackdown

US businesses are bracing for a possible major crackdown on illegal foreign workers, as the government seeks to give immigration authorities more power to punish companies hiring undocumented workers.

President George W. Bush’s administration has proposed a federal regulation that unions warn could lead to mass firings nationwide by companies seeking to avoid prosecution and fines.

So we’re to believe that Jorge Arbusto after using every trick in the book, including calling his base racists, that suddenly he’s had a change of heart and wants to play hardball? It’s just a proposal and after it’s sufficiently reported, far and wide, I’m sure it will quietly shuffle off the mortal coil into the dumpster.

“It’s going to put businesses all over the nation in a bind,” said Tamar Jacoby, an immigration expert at the conservative Manhattan Institute.

“If the feds (federal authorities) really follow through with this, and I think they’re going to, you’re going to see lots of industries … leave the US,” Jacoby said.

Uh huh. Let’s see, it’s pretty well established that illegals favor a fairly narrow band of labor. Landscaping and general construction labor is one. I don’t think many of us will send our lawns or roofs outside the U.S. Next we have the meat processing industries, Hormel, Tyson, and Pilgrim’s Pride aren’t likely to outsource because they’re rather dependent on locations within reasonable shipping distance of their suppliers.

The rule under consideration in Washington relates directly to the potentially fraudulent use of Social Security numbers, which employees provide at the time of hiring.

Fake Social Security cards are widely available on the black market, allowing many immigrants to work at major US corporations.

Amazing, our technological society just can’t seem to sort that issue out. I know the SSA only employs a few senior citizens that frequently get lost in the tons of paper records, boxes and lunch leftovers. I mean it’s not like they have a computer database of actual, legally issued SSNs right?

Jacoby said the proposed regulation, left pending since June 2006, was boxed up while Congress debated a sweeping immigration reform plan that recently collapsed.

Since the legislation was buried, businesses have braced for the worksite enforcement regulation to be adopted by the Department of Homeland Security, she said.

Ever notice how PR and journalists types just love the word “Brace”. Eastern Slobovialand is “bracing” for Hurricane Blow-Job Billy, businesses are bracing for actual enforcement of laws. It’s just me, but when I hear or see that word used I think of the movie “Airplane” with passengers assuming their crash positions.

The largest chicken processor in the United States, Pilgrim’s Pride, has fired more than 100 employees who cannot produce valid Social Security numbers, according to news reports and advocates for the workers in rural east Texas.

Experts describe the firings as a pre-emptive move ahead of beefed-up enforcement.

In other parlance, we gotta cover our asses and quick.

The company has acknowledged firing workers although it would not say what motivated the layoffs or how many were let go. It has hired replacement workers.

“There undoubtedly will be additional terminations,” said Gary Rhodes, a spokesman for Pilgrim’s, which has 55,000 employees in the United States and Mexico.

No motivation for the layoffs, eh? But you did hire replacements, perchance were they all gringos?

The government routinely alerts companies when suspicious numbers are entered into the Social Security Administration’s (SSA) electronic database, but experts say current law essentially allows employers to ignore the warning letters.

In a 2006 fact sheet, the White House said the proposed regulation would make it “clear that employers who ignore the discrepancies between SSA databases and the information provided by their employees may be viewed under the law as knowing that the employees are illegal workers, making it easier … to prosecute violators.” [Emph Mine]

Don’t you just love it when we already have laws on the books, but other laws allow someone to just ignore the others. Rule of Law, my ass. The proposed regulation, our careful readers will note says “may be viewed under the law”, nice loophole there Bushito.

Companies that knowingly hire illegal workers can face criminal prosecution and be hit with fines of up to 10,000 dollars per worker for repeat violations.

Not that any company would ever be assessed a fine, because as we all know, ICE is in the habit of giving notice to employers prior to their “surprise” inspections.

According to US Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE), the proposed rule remains pending. But business leaders believe authorities may announce its final adoption before the summer is out.

ICE spokeswoman Pat Reilly could not give a timetable for when it might be adopted, but she said it was a “well intentioned regulation and one hopes that it will get full consideration.” [Emph Mine]

Proposed rule, remains pending. Cannot provide a timetable when it might be adopted. Cough *BULLSHIT* Cough.

Bill Hammond, head of the Texas Association of Business and part of a national business alliance that pushed for immigration reform in Washington, said the migrant job losses at Pilgrim’s could be the tip of the iceberg.

There are an estimated 12 million illegal immigrants in the United States, with as many as a 10th of them in Texas.

“There are a lot of employees in Texas … who are undocumented workers,” Hammond said. “A lot of them could be out of the workforce over the next six to 12 months.”

Well golllee, gee-wizziwockers. That’s a lot folks doing the jobs that no Americans will do. I don’t mind paying an extra quarter a pound for chicken or hamburger meat, if it means that taxes being vacuumed out of my pockets by said ‘undocumented’ workers using government services, are reduced by a couple hundred dollars.

Immigrant advocacy groups, labor unions and a coalition of national business groups have criticized the proposal.

The AFL-CIO, an umbrella group representing 53 unions and nearly nine million workers, warned the government last year that the proposed rule would “trigger mass firings across the nation” and lead to discrimination against legal workers.

Typically, the clue-bereft AFL-CIO fails recognize the difference between legal and illegal. Color me stupid, but don’t most labor unions attempt to increase the wages for their employees. With that in mind, if the illegal workers (obviously working on a lower pay-scale) disappear wouldn’t that allow your legal employees better wages? Or is a reduction in union dues a factor?

“It’s going to put employers in a position pretty quickly of, I think, having to terminate workers,” said John Gay, vice-president for government relations at the National Restaurant Association. “We are concerned about it.”

My heart bleeds for you, it really does. That would mean hiring and actually paying employees fair wages and profits declining, maybe some layoffs of VP gubmint-relations types are in order as well.

I just can’t find a microgram of pity for any of these companies right now. Not a solitary one.

15 Responses to “I Wouldn’t Hold My Breath”
  1. tvfoh Comment by tvfoh

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    Misha, I think that this shows the dependence of the GOP on Illegal labor :em72: and the unwillingness to comprehend the needs of American labor verses making a few more penny’s. :em98:

    I want to conserve American jobs for Americans and if it cost more, the better wages most of us would get will pay for it.

    TVFOH
    The View From Out Here

  2. thepresenceusmc Comment by thepresenceusmc

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    M’liege, there’s a pull-out on the southern front of the ware on terrorism! :em98:

  3. Emperor Misha I Comment by Emperor Misha I

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    Misha, I think that this shows the dependence of the GOP on Illegal labor :em72: and the unwillingness to comprehend the needs of American labor verses making a few more penny’s. :em98:

    Much as I would truly love to take credit for this smackdown, it’s the work of Jackboot and the credit is all his.

    Other than that you are, of course, absolutely right.

    And now I’ll go cry myself to sleep over the plight of the poor plantation owners in mortal fear of losing their slaves.

  4. DJ Allyn,  ITW Comment by DJ Allyn, ITW

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    Uh huh. Let’s see, it’s pretty well established that illegals favor a fairly narrow band of labor. Landscaping and general construction labor is one.

    Sure, if you are only focusing on the Mexicans and other hispanics crossing the border. But that is only part of the vast number of illegals currently holding down jobs here in this country.

    Most people don’t notice the illegal Asians, Russians, Indians, British, Canadians, and other nationalities working and living here in this country, who entered on a temporary visa and just stayed. Many of those are holding down tech jobs, and other high-paying jobs.

    But since you seem to focus on the Mexicans, a very low percentage of them are working in the ‘traditional’ Mexican work (landscaping, construction, agriculture). Most are now working in manufacturing and factory jobs that used to go to union workers.

    Hey, but if true, (and I hold more trust for Joe Isuzu than I do for anything this administration says) it is a good one step in the right direction.

    Trust Me

  5. LC Cheapshot911, Dept. of Redneck Tech Comment by LC Cheapshot911, Dept. of Redneck Tech

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    Most people don’t notice the illegal Asians, Russians, Indians, British, Canadians, and other nationalities working and living here

    ,,,becasue maybe they took steps not takien by others,, steps like,,assimilating?
    Dang, they just flat dissapear.
    The jails, hospitals and bars are full of the other ones.

  6. LC HJ Caveman82952 Comment by LC HJ Caveman82952

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    Not soon enough…at least half of my customers have illegals working for them, then bitch about the prices I charge. I ream them if I can. Some illegals are nice guys, the rest thieves, rogues, gangbangers and losers. I see a hundred or so every day. Yes, thanks to the lefties here they are presneted as oppressed. I’ve spent too many hours in ERs to buy that shit.

  7. Cannon Fodder Comment by Cannon Fodder

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    I could give two shits where these illegals come from. If their temporary visa has expired they need to be sent home just as fast as the ones that sneaked across the border.

    Misha, I agree with you, I have not one bit of pity for these employers that knowingly continue to employ illegal workers! Shit, they are coming out in droves crying about how this new rule will cause them to mass fire employees. Oh, boo hoo! I could use a really good job with great benefits! I was born and raised in this country, but I can’t get anything because these illegals get them because they have become preferred workers. But it is more likely to keep wages lower. Since the employer can just point out the illegals and say, “There are plenty of their friends that would love your job st your current rate of pay.”

  8. Unregistered Comment by Tallulah

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    You know, this whole debate has been done before, for centuries.

    In the 1850s, the plantation owners swore they couldn’t get along without slave labor: why, the whole agricultural economy would just collapse without cheap labor!

    Turns out that wasn’t true.

    Around 1900, the factories swore they couldn’t get along with organized workers: why, the whole manufacturing sector would just collapse without cheap labor!

    Turns out that wasn’t true, either (at least until the corruption rackets/Mafiosi took over).

    Now we’re treated to the edifying spectacle of watching “progressives” support the employers’ right to use SCAB LABOR, which is what the illegal aliens are. The same SCAB LABOR the Leftists swore to oppose, with guns if necessary, when their own jobs were in jeopardy.

    SCAB LABOR.

    Call a spade a spade. And stop, O peeps, calling them “illegals.” That’s part of what’s wrong with them, but it doesn’t discomfit the Borg Collective, because they pride themselves on being daring “renegades.” Makes their gray ponytails stand right up.

  9. Unregistered Pingback by Inoperable Terran » I’ll believe it when I see it

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    […] and “immigrant rights” groups are warning that President Bush may soon crack down on businesses that hire illegal immigrants. Posted by Ian S. […]

  10. tvfoh Comment by tvfoh

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    Jackboot, good piece. fixes my earlier error.

    Tallulah,

    Your not going to get an argument out of me on that. I think the labor movement needs to divorce itself from either party and sell its block of votes to the highest bidder. not likely with the moonbats in control of the unions.

    TVFOH

  11. DJ Allyn,  ITW Comment by DJ Allyn, ITW

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    Oh, where to start…

    ,,,becasue maybe they took steps not takien by others,, steps like,,assimilating?
    Dang, they just flat dissapear.
    The jails, hospitals and bars are full of the other ones.

    But they are still illegal, no?

    We tend to only see the obvious. We see hispanics because it is so easy for them to get in. We overlook the other groups because we know they didn’t simply walk across the border, we assume they are here legally. And yes, many of them speak English and are able to assimilate better.

    But illegal is illegal.

    I only brought this up because JB said illegals favor a narrow band of employment. I was pointing out that the problem is far more extensive than that, and it pretty much covers an entire spectrum of jobs and society.

    I’d wager that the number of illegal aliens in this country are being grossly underestimated, at least for the numbers of people who are NOT hispanic.

    The jails, bars, and hospitals is not an accurate yardstick to determine how many illegals of any nationality are here in this country. That only picks out those on the lower ecomomic ladder.

    Besides, when you look at a population of a jail, hospital, or bar anywhere in the Southwest, how do you know that person is illegal? Texas, New Mexico, Arizona, California used to be part of Mexico at one time, so it only stands to reason that there would be a high number of Mexicans residing there.

    In the 1850s, the plantation owners swore they couldn’t get along without slave labor: why, the whole agricultural economy would just collapse without cheap labor!

    This country has always been addicted to slave labor. We just call it something different now. We send our manufacturing jobs to China, Mexico, the Marianna Islands (US-held, but not subject to our labor laws — but it allows that “made in USA” label)

    Those Nike shoes you pay $100 for were made by a nine-year-old who works twelve hours a day, seven days a week for a few pennys. The clothes on your back are made by children and/or prisoners in China.

    We still rely on slave labor — we just keep it out of your sight, and out of your mind.

    Now we’re treated to the edifying spectacle of watching “progressives” support the employers’ right to use SCAB LABOR, which is what the illegal aliens are. The same SCAB LABOR the Leftists swore to oppose, with guns if necessary, when their own jobs were in jeopardy.

    Two things: One, it is your President Bunnypants and his corporate masters who are pushing this shit. Yes, there are some Democrats in the same pockets too.

    The unions are also pushing this crap. They see prospective members to swell their ranks. We’ve had several union leaders on our show telling us that this is a GOOD thing, and that their plan is to unionize ALL workers and revitalize the labor market.

    Horse shit.

    Look at the poll numbers. Conservatives AND Progressives are against what the President and certain numbskulls in Congress have been pushing.

  12. Emperor Misha I Comment by Emperor Misha I

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    Horse shit.

    Look at the poll numbers. Conservatives AND Progressives are against what the President and certain numbskulls in Congress have been pushing.

    Yep. Deej is absolutely right on this one.

    Those 65-75% against Shamnesty poll results weren’t made up of conservatives alone, there aren’t that many of us. It was a groundswell across the board.

    One of those rare times where We the People got together on something, across political divides, and told the elitist swine in DC to shut the fuck up and listen to the folks who VOTED FOR THEM. Let’s not be silly and suggest that one side or the other deserves all the credit here, because it simply isn’t true.

    Not to mention that we ought to celebrate when we all agree.

  13. tvfoh Comment by tvfoh

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    Allyn, Your right Illegal is Illegal, Mexicans seem to attract the most attention to them selfs, with crimes and protesting.

    I cant afford nikes, but my $15 Wally world specials are made the same way.

  14. LC Cheapshot911, Dept. of Redneck Tech Comment by LC Cheapshot911, Dept. of Redneck Tech

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    This thread need’s fattening,,
    Come sing koomb-aiyee-alamo with me’cha

  15. LC Cheapshot911, Dept. of Redneck Tech Comment by LC Cheapshot911, Dept. of Redneck Tech

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    Oh yeah, be very careful not to take anything out of context.