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Because “24″ is apparently going to go to depths where no other show with actual viewers has gone before (link thanks to Sir Christopher):

From “An Inconvenient Truth” to popularizing the Prius, Hollywood has helped lead the way on some environmental issues. One of the latest initiatives: Cool Change, Fox’s company-wide program to reduce the network’s impact on global warming. As part of that effort, the seventh season of “24″ will take steps to reduce and offset the carbon emissions from the show’s production, with the goal of having the season finale be entirely carbon-neutral.

And viewer-neutral as well, in that nobody of its ever dwindling target demographic are likely to bother watching it in the first place.

It may sound like a publicity stunt,

Gee, ya think?

but Fox spokesman Chris Anderson says the network isn’t after bigger ratings.

Gave up on that when you handed over script-writing duties to MorOn.org and CAIR, didn’t you?

“We are publicizing ’24’s’ commitment to climate change for two reasons and two reasons only: to inspire the public to take global warming seriously and hopefully to motivate other studios to make changes to their production practices as well,” he says.

Wouldn’t that require actual viewers in order to work, or are you going to strap innocent victims to chairs and give them the full “A Clockwork Orange” Special™?

The “24″ page at Fox.com now features energy conservation tips and a public service announcement about global warming featuring Kiefer Sutherland;

Oh great. Does it have special appearances by the Goreacle™ and His Holy Slide Show™ too?

Here’s an idea, you mongoloid show manglers: How about focusing on — I don’t know — writing a script that is actually worth watching and leave the sanctimonious, PC, interest group-peddling bullcrap to the likes of Kos and the Kostards?

more information will be posted when the show airs in January. Plus, climate change will be incorporated into the series’ plot (which just might scare some viewers into taking action).

It has already “scared” this particular viewer into keeping the TV far away from FOX whenever your new “eco-friendly” version of “24″ happens to be on. But hey, I’m sure that watching Jack Bauer driving around a Pious, chasing Enemies of Gaia and hissing “turn off the engine on that SUV! There is no TIME!” every five minutes will be a huge hit.

With the subretarded.

Oh, bother… It’s not like I’m going to be watching anyway, particularly not after this load of unadulterated twittishness.

54 Responses to “Looks Like We Won’t Have to Bother Even Tuning In for Next Season”
  1. Deathknyte Comment by Deathknyte

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    As part of that effort, the seventh season of “24″ will take steps to reduce and offset the carbon emissions from the show’s production, with the goal of having the season finale be entirely carbon-neutral.

    So everybody involved with the show will be dead.

  2. Unregistered Comment by Cheryl

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    Oh great. Does it have special appearances by the Goreacle™ and His Holy Slide Show™ too?

    Yep. Along with his evil Canuckistan twin, David [Fruit Fly Man] Suzuki. :em95:

    BTW. How can a season finale of a TV program be carbon-neutral? What in the name of Cthulu’s gonads does that even mean? :em98: I can’t stand this shit any more I tells ya. :em08:

  3. Unregistered Comment by jewells52

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    I won’t be watching. That show was so bad last year, I suffered thru most of the season, but I didn’t even bother to watch the finale.

  4. maxxdog Comment by maxxdog

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    What will I do with that one hour a week I won’t be wasting on these tumblefucks? I know, I’ll fire up the sauna, turn on some tunes, throw another log on the fire and offset their carbon neutrality by day 12.
    :em95: :em71: :em96:
    Fuckin’ yahoos!

  5. LC Cheapshot911, Dept. of Redneck Tech Comment by LC Cheapshot911, Dept. of Redneck Tech

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    As part of that effort, the seventh season of “24″ will take steps to reduce and offset the carbon emissions from the show’s production, with the goal of having the season finale be entirely carbon-neutral.

    (Cringe/shudder)

    Th-that could only mean, like, allota’ wet-work..’figurin’ how much hollyweird show-squib rounds contribute to the production footyprint.
    ‘Reckon’ al’jizzeroo will be interested..
    Yick.

  6. LCBrendan Comment by LCBrendan

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    So everybody involved with the show will be dead.

    No, dead bodies give off gases too.And it is flatly impossible to be carbon neutral..unless no one farts all year…..

  7. Unregistered Comment by Cheryl

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    And it is flatly impossible to be carbon neutral..unless no one farts all year…..

    Tell that to the lentil and broccoli crowd on the show. :em71: :em71:

  8. EvilFreeSmeg Comment by EvilFreeSmeg

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    Who are you jumping the shark for? WHO ARE YOU JUMPING THE SHARK FOR???

  9. Trooper THX1138 Comment by Trooper THX1138

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    :em96: :em95: :em71:

    Rest in peace, Jack Bauer’s gonads. I guess in this coming season, the female president decided that Jack was too dangerous to be let alone as masculine.

    In a midnight raid, Hillary’s anti-testosterone SWAT team blasted into Jack Bauer’s apt. in the middle of his foursome with identical triplets, where they black-bagged his recreational partners and performed the castration of all dangling bit by use of a well worn recyclable cardboard spork. The offending organs were sealed away and are now used as part of Project Huxley at the CDC.

    As for Lord Fluffles and I, We choose to welcome and obey our new Nematode overlords.

  10. CiSSnarl5.7 Comment by CiSSnarl5.7

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    Can’t say as I ever really could get into “24″, it just never particulary grabbed me as a great show. But most of the crap on T.V. is useless these days anyhow, so I watch almost 0 T.V.
    If the Id10T unit is even on, it’s because the spousal unit is watching a cooking or home improvement show, I’ve banned MTV when my kids watch it, I refuse to allow most of the sexual indoctrination (AKA “programing”) into my home.

    How’s that for being Offended? LOL..I just shut the damn thing off..so much easier then screaming to the masses, getting lawyers, sueing because my feelings and my sensitivites got bruised…a simple “CLICK” ahhh back to reality.

    If Fox wants to make a statement about the environment…in the context of 24, they should bring to light that several enviromental groups are listed as Terrorist groups and the incresing threat they pose to U.S. business and private citizens…That would be groups like ALF, ELF, etc..

    Not content with planting a tree, or trying to reduce thier own greenhouse emissions…they engage in acts of terror against business.

    http://www.cnsnews.com/ViewCulture.asp?Page=/Culture/archive/200707/CUL20070719a.html

    During the past decade we have witnessed dramatic changes in the nature of the terrorist threat. In the 1990s, right-wing extremism overtook left-wing terrorism as the most dangerous domestic terrorist threat to the country. During the past several years, special interest extremism, as characterized by the Animal Liberation Front (ALF) and the Earth Liberation Front (ELF), has emerged as a serious terrorist threat. Generally, extremist groups engage in much activity that is protected by constitutional guarantees of free speech and assembly. Law enforcement becomes involved when the volatile talk of these groups transgresses into unlawful action. The FBI estimates that the ALF/ELF have committed more than 600 criminal acts in the United States since 1996, resulting in damages in excess of 43 million dollars.

    From:

    http://www.fbi.gov/congress/congress02/jarboe021202.htm

    Think they’ll touch that particular third rail? Doubt it.
    How often do you see any coverage of these domestic terrorist groups in the MSM..rarely.

  11. Unregistered Comment by tradewind

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    DAMMIT!

    Why don’t they just bring in Al Gore as the new head of CTU? Then he could get some real street cred by offering to swap
    places with Behrooz,( currently being held hostage by the terrorists in some oil-rich hellhole).
    That’s the only way for him to offset the zillions of carbon credits he slurps up every day down here in TN…

  12. Unregistered Comment by tradewind

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    Trooper, re the female president:
    … there’s a backstory there. Not only are they going after the green audience, but they’re going with one of Rosie’s Raiders in real life to play the presidentette.
    Oh well, at least Prison Break’s coming back.

  13. psychochick Comment by psychochick

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    Snarl
    Actually, one of my obsessions is domestic terrorism

    You do hear about the “eco” ones when they do something horrible like burn down a housing development or a Hummer dealership (both very bad for the environment, incidentally). You sometimes hear about lab research animals being “liberated.” And wasn’t that horse slaughterhouse burned down? even though it had stopped slaughtering horses. The animal floor of my Bio building is like a goddamn fortress. And the conclusion on this site that most environmentalists support this sort of thing is bullshit. (WEC)

    If anything, it’s the more right-wing terrorism that doesn’t get mentioned. When’s the last time you read about the Army of God? (at least they haven’t killed anybody lately) They just publish the names and addresses of doctors to make them easy targets.

    I don’t know if I would consider white suprecamists right–maybe ultra far right. There are a bunch of Klan groups, but the Brotherhood of Klans knights of the Ku Klux Klan are an official terrorist group. I don’t know about the other ones. The only place I’ve seen the Klan or the Aryan Nations come up is:

    The NYT did carry a piece about how the military now allows white supremacists to join–there are thousands of them. (They used to be banned after finding out that Tim McVeigh got his terrorist training there.) They tend to want to join the infantry, so they get skilled in house to house conflict for their race war. Also, some are getting explosives training. Most will come back a potential terrorist. You can find Aryan Nations grafitti in Baghdad. (I’ve seen this in other sources.)
    —————
    24:
    –I have about 6 episodes taped I still need to watch–I’ve been told the ending is ridiculous

    –TV used to be banned under the Taliban, but now it’s back (I guess in the areas not controlled by the Taliban). 24 is really popular! The bad guys are usually Muslims, but they don’t care because they aren’t Afghani!

  14. CiSSnarl5.7 Comment by CiSSnarl5.7

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    That’s the only way for him to offset the zillions of carbon credits he slurps up every day down here in TN…

    Tradewind…Greetings from a fellow Vol… from the NE region up near KY Border..

  15. CiSSnarl5.7 Comment by CiSSnarl5.7

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    If anything, it’s the more right-wing terrorism that doesn’t get mentioned. When’s the last time you read about the Army of God? (at least they haven’t killed anybody lately) They just publish the names and addresses of doctors to make them easy targets.

    I’m going to have to disagree on that point, simply because of the fact that the minute any far right milita dares poke it’s head out of whatever hole it breeds it’s hate in…it gets stomped.
    I.E. The militia recently broke up in Alabama.

    It was in the news for days, as opposed to ELF And ALF that are rarley brought to task, by any media, or for that matter agressivly pursued and indicted.

    As the FBI mentioned they estimate damage by these groups to be in the millions of dollars, had that money gone to public funds via taxes, chairty, people’s paychecks, etc, think of the positive outcomes possible with millions of dollars not wasted on damages, higher insurance etc.

    The NYT did carry a piece about how the military now allows white supremacists to join–there are thousands of them. (They used to be banned after finding out that Tim McVeigh got his terrorist training there.) They tend to want to join the infantry, so they get skilled in house to house conflict for their race war. Also, some are getting explosives training. Most will come back a potential terrorist. You can find Aryan Nations grafitti in Baghdad. (I’ve seen this in other sources.)

    I’m going to take umbage at your statement from the NY Times…The Times has an agenda, it hates the military and it is spinning like a top, and only telling half of the picture.

    Let me ask you this, Have you sat down with a military recruiter and gone through the enlistment process dear?

    Trust me when I say the following; even as far back as ‘85 when I first joined it was EXHAUSTIVE.

    You are also under a background check that makes anything in the civilian world look tame by comparision. Theres a FBI, NSA, DIA, you pick the alphabet soup agency, chances are for any type of access to anything in the US military theres an agency of some sort checking your closet for skeltons.

    To continue, One little rumble of improper associations, an arrest for drugs, violent gang activity, DUI etc, is immediate grounds for disqualification.

    I’ve got a mid level clearance, plain vanilla run of the mill. The U.S. Navy sent AGENTS to my home of record to find people that knew me and to check my background. Now do you think that a KKK’r or a Aryanasswipe nation member is going to pass that sort of scruinty?

    Does it happen that a WS asshole can lie his way throught the enlistment process, sure if he’s never been picked up by the police or indicted and found guilty of crimes, yeah it can. But don’t you dare sit there and tell me that there are THOUSANDS of these assholes running around our military because that’s bullshit.

    If such was the case the Military COULD NOT function, as it stands now there is an almost 50/50 split in demographics of our U.S. Military, half white, half other races to include Black, Hispanic, Asian, etc. If there’s THOUSDANDS Of these skins heads running around in the military I’d like to see them, and furthermore see how the units could function with that sort of hatered in the ranks.

    As far as Aryan gaffitti in Bahgdad, of course blame the troops. You best check your sources PC…chances are they’re far left leaning wuith an axe to grind.

    Tell you what, I live in Kuwait (as you know) and I’ve see it here as well. And Guess what? The troops are restricted to thier bases. They DONT GO OUT IN PUBLIC.

    So think about that. Who hates the “Damn Joooos” Ms. Pyscho? The U.S. Military? Or the the Arabs.

    What group in addition to Aryan nation CLOSELY identifies with Adolf Hitler..The Arabs…Who supporrted Hitler in WWII? The Arabs…

    Now do you expect me for one minuite to belive our troops in Baghdad are running around with spray paint painting Anti Semite, Ultra Right, slogans?

    All the while trying to keep from getting killed by some Jihadi butthole sniffer?

    PAAAAHHHLEEAAASAE, no offense but …Get a clue dear.

  16. LC Scott Comment by LC Scott

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    psychochick some of those Eco terrorist were jest convected. :em69: here in the home of ELF.

    Maybe 24 could cut down on their environmental damage by no longer issuing guns or lead bullets, Instead they could just issue photos of Cloe looking sternly at them.

  17. psychochick Comment by psychochick

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    Scott
    Thanks for the good news! i really do hate those people.

    Did you know the actress who plays Cloe is really a comedian?!

    Snarl
    Well, thank you for being pleasant. You would have a knowledge edge over me, being in the military. But with the trouble recruiting people for the war, the Army has lowered its standards–like you can be older. There were a bunch of articles about letting neo-Nazis through the cracks–I couldn’t find a right-wing article, but there were a fair amount of mainstream ones. Haven’t there been issues with recruiters being really lax in their recruiting (and getting in trouble for it)? It does seem like it would suck for morale to have those people around, with the military being such an integrated organization. Yes, I know that Arabs generally passionately hate Jews.

    So in Kuwait, where you can’t leave the base, there is AN graffiti, too? That’s relevant.

  18. LC Scott Comment by LC Scott

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    psychochick
    Here is the link.

  19. LC Scott Comment by LC Scott

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    And this.

  20. CiSSnarl5.7 Comment by CiSSnarl5.7

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    PC..Hold on there deary…I am not in the military.

    I am however a veteran working for a defense contractor here FOR the U.S. Military… (You know those people, “Little Eichmans, Greedy BUCHCHENYHALIBURTON, Ahhh what’s the term…Mercanary”!! Yeah that’s it! That’s me! LOL).

    Ahem, Now that we cleared that up, I am allowed to roam freely in Kuwait. I even have what’s known as a Civil ID, in other words I am a bona fide resident of Kuwait, (think Green card here), the TROOPS stationed here however are not.

    Yes, I’ve seen such endearing anti zionst / jewish/ american etc, graffitti on the side of walls, buildings, along with such wonderous things as posters of OBL…a co-worker once working somewhere saw a host nation national with that sorry son of a bitch as the screensaver on the computer he was working on…it’s very rare, but it does exsist.

    I will admit tho the Kuwait government takes a very dim view of such things, and they do a pretty darn good job at keeping that sort of thing cleaned up.

    Don’t confuse the phrase “lowering standards” with recuriting the dregs of society, malcontents, and other un desireables. That’s EXACTLY what anti-war / military mouth organs such as the NYT and other left leaning publications want you to belive.

    Some physical standards such as age may have been waived recently, however everyone that goes in gets a pretty damn stringent background check done on them.

    As far as the age requirement; to my knowledge, its only wavied for VETS like me, prior HONORABLE service, or folks still in what’s known as IRR or Inactive Ready Reserve.

    They also have to be in a CRITICAL field I.e say the Army runs out of Air Traffic Control types, in theory they could dip into the IRR and call someone up.

    Trust me, Grandpa Jones ain’t gonna come shuffling his way into the recuriters office at a spry 60 years old and say “Sign me up sonny!! I’m gonna go kill me some A-rabs!!”…it aint gonna happen.

    Remember too, recruiters are not the final authority on wheather a person joins the U.S, Military. They are merely the gateway, they start the process, and from there a candiate goes to a Military Entrance Processing Station or “MEPS” for short, thats where the REAL fun begins…physicals, continued aptitude testing, pyschological testing, shots, X-rays, background questionaires, the dreaded finger waving..ouch.

    This process continues even into boot camp, where should something come up negative, that person can be sent home, depending on the problem that comes up, it can be a “convienance of the government” type discharge, all the way to a felonious Bad Conduct Dishonorable for lying under oath. Generally the Government wont waste the time on it and just sends the person home with a COG type discharge.

    The U.S. Govenment spends 10’s of thousands of dollars on each person making sure they are who they say they are that they are not a felon, etc.

    As a personal aside, after 9-11 I tired to re-join I had been out about 7 years, I served in a critical career field in the US. Navy, it was critcal to such an extent even in a mostly peace time environment my re-enlistment bonus was pegged at 30,000 dollars.

    Much to my dismay….I was flatly turned down by a recuriter. Never made it to the first piece of paper, Reason…I had a history of Cancer. Thanks for playing, have a nice day.

    Sorry, This is getting long winded but I have also withnessed years ago, “one that fell through the cracks”.

    This person had assumed another ID, and tried to get lost in the military as he was wanted for felony drug trafficking. Within 24 months from the time he joined…The FBI came and got him. That’s all I can say about it.

    Now with things of that nature do you still feel that there could possibly be that many Aryan nation, skin heads, bloods, crips, M16 members(pick your group) infesting the U.S. Military? Think about it.

  21. Unregistered Comment by mindy1

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    To psychochick-heard that story about gangs in the militarythought it might be possibel, but took it with a grain of salt-like snarl said, with such a mixed group of people in the military today, I do not think they could function as skin head, although a few nutjobs :em41: could probably sneak in if they wanted to.

  22. Unregistered Comment by mindy1

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    I meant tought it might be possible :em98:

  23. Unregistered Comment by mindy1

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    Thought it might be possible(has anyone seen my head-I seem to have lost it…) :em95:

  24. CiSSnarl5.7 Comment by CiSSnarl5.7

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    but took it with a grain of salt-like

    Also known as none other then COMMON SENSE…Ahem!

  25. maxxdog Comment by maxxdog

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    I’m thinking it would be easier for a member of the Klan to get elected to the Senate. A Byrd told me that.
    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/06/18/AR2005061801105.html

  26. Lib R Alicia (buttload of excrement!) Comment by Lib R Alicia (buttload of excrement!)

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    I’m thinking it would be easier for a member of the Klan to get elected to the Senate

    I feel like I’ve just been to a Klan meeting. Hell, I just saw Nuremberg Rally 2!

    Corporate toady ABC just had all the nine wannabe Fuhrers on to “debate”

    Benevolent, wise and sage Al Gore, WE NEED YOU!

  27. HoundOfDoom Comment by HoundOfDoom

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    Grandpa Jones ain’t gonna come shuffling his way into the recuriters office at a spry 60 years old and say “Sign me up sonny!! I’m gonna go kill me some A-rabs!!”…it aint gonna happen.

    Aw, shucks, another dream denied… ‘Snif’, ‘Snif’, ‘Waaaa’

  28. Sir Christopher Comment by Sir Christopher

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    The NYT did carry a piece about how the military now allows white supremacists to join–there are thousands of them. (They used to be banned after finding out that Tim McVeigh got his terrorist training there.)

    so NYT equates military training with terrorist training? Please don’t tell me your calling NYT “Mainstream” cause it aint…

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    If there was any doubt the show has now “jumped the shark” before the season began. Of cours last years Islamapandering was evidence enough.

    What in the hell happened to telling it like it is?

  30. Useful Idiot Comment by Useful Idiot

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    On the global warming topic: What happened to all of the hurricanes we were supposed to have? You know… the ones that were supposed to make Katrina look like a mild breeze.

  31. LC HJ Caveman82952 Comment by LC HJ Caveman82952

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    Yet another show bites the dust…..to join every other failed liberal attempt at dominating the media Air America, etc. These folks can’t seem to get their minds around the fact they remain insuffably boring….no sense of humor, PC fairies fluttering about. None of those assholes would have survived in the world I grew up in……I think I’ll stick with nature shows and baseball games.

  32. Emperor Misha I Comment by Emperor Misha I

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    I feel like I’ve just been to a Klan meeting. Hell, I just saw Nuremberg Rally 2!

    I told you to stay the heck away from the Yearly Kotz.

  33. Emperor Misha I Comment by Emperor Misha I

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    Oh, and PC, in addition to the excellent information that LC CiSSnarl5.7 provided us all with, there’s the, er, unofficial selection process once you’re processed and issued a uniform.

    Now, granted, I don’t know exactly how it works here since I served under a different field post number, but I’d be much surprised to learn that it works any differently.

    You see, most people really don’t like skinheads, neonazis and assorted other scum, and military types like them even less as a general rule. We had one who’d managed to get through the initial filtering because he didn’t actually have any record, he just had certain firmly entrenched political “sympathies” of a less than savory nature. And, of course, like any other supremacist fuckhead, he thought that once he’d been issued a uniform, a weapon and a buzz cut he was in hog heaven and couldn’t help bragging about his fuckheadedness to his fellow recruits.

    For some odd reason unbeknownst to me, officially at least, he suddenly turned out to be not very happy in the service and, within a couple of weeks, he miraculously decided that maybe military life wasn’t for him. I had no objections, nor did anybody else, so off he went for “medical reasons.”

    They may think they’ve got it made if they somehow manage to elude the official weeding process, but they couldn’t be more wrong. This guy in particular, I’m sure, ended up wishing that he had been caught by the screening process instead.

  34. CiSSnarl5.7 Comment by CiSSnarl5.7

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    Oh, and PC, in addition to the excellent information that LC CiSSnarl5.7 provided us all with, there’s the, er, unofficial selection process once you’re processed and issued a uniform.

    You betcha. And that mentality starts early on in basic, it’s encouraged even.

    LOL…I still fondly recall my CC in bootcamp screaming at us in our first weeks:

    “LISTEN UP BUTTHEADS! In here…(pointing around to the barracks walls) and in HERE (pointing to his head) And E-SPECIAL-ALLY IN HERE (pointing to his heart)..

    You are NOT black, You are NOT white, You are NOT anything but NAVY BLUE AND MOTHER FUCK**ING GOLD!!
    Any-ONE, and I mean A-N-Y-O-N-E of you has a problem with another man in MY COMPANY because he don’t look the same, or is from some other place then you…HAS A FUCKING PROBLEM WITH ME!!

    AND THE FIRST ONE OF YOU COCKCHOKERS FORGETS THAT I WILL PERSONALLY TAKE MUCH-O GRANDE PLEASURE IN KICKING YOUR SORRY ASS FOR YOU”

    Master Chief was 6 Foot and 4 inches, about 230 lbs, and arms like Popeye himself…I have no doubt whatsoever he’d back up his words.

    He paused, lit that ever present smoke, shot a big plume of smoke through his nose..paused again….and then he grinned at us..

    (shudders) I grew to fear that grin because you never knew what his next move was…a nice “grinding” maybe? A little slack time for a “smoke-n-coke” of your own?
    Truth is you could never tell, But by time the Master Chief was done with us after 8+ weeks…you did know, you better DAMN WELL bleed Navy Blue if you got cut.

    Red was not permited.

  35. Unregistered Comment by Draven32

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    :em72:

    Sic transit 24.

    And I can guarantee they’re going to just buy ‘carbon offsets’ from Al Gore’s company if they are going to have any visual effects at all- two or three days of running three hundred computer processors is a little hard to offset on the show.

    Its not just ‘24′, its not just Fox. The Mayor of L.A. has been asking H’wood to cut its emissions… Of course, a lot of productions will simply cut their emissions by shooting somewhere that doesn’t care, like New Mexico, Florida, North Carolina, etc.

    So much for the film industry recovery in Southern California.

    (Btw, on the subject of glow-ball wormening, do y’all realize that this past winter it went below freezing in L.A. for the first time in uhh… I dunno, ninety years?)

  36. Unregistered Comment by Doug

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    I don’t know if I would consider white suprecamists right–maybe ultra far right.

    Well, since thier group identity seems to consist solely of bigotry, it’s kind of hard to say. Where do they stand on free markets? States’ rights? Federalism? Tax reform? Entitlements? What values exactly qualify them as belonging on any part of the right?

  37. dcs2244 Comment by dcs2244

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    I don’t think accepting older folks into the military is “lowering standards”, especially the way CiSSnarl explained it. In fact, if an “old fart” (w/o prior military service) can pass the physical, mental and background screening process, I have no problem with them being allowed to serve: they bring maturity, education, training and experience with them. Properly utilized by the military, this is education and training already in place: these older individuals will come up to speed a lot quicker than their 17/18 YOA confederates. Further, this would free up young people to do the heavy lifting (as only they can). Just my $.02…

  38. tvfoh Comment by tvfoh

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    Doug, i think you can guess their position on states rights,because they will try to tell you thats what the war between the states was fought over. :em72:

    I hate it when they try to get spiritual on me. though, I like using my bible as a clue-by-four, upside their sorry heads.

    TVFOH

  39. psychochick Comment by psychochick

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    dcs
    I totally agree with you and then it’s great. But it is a change in standards–I thought it was a reasonable increase–I didn’t think it was 60 year olds.

    Snarl
    1) Thanks for your comments. It is really instructive to me, as a civilian
    2) I was going to let this drop and slink away, but your common sense comment motivated me to action: Stars and Stripes legitimate enough? (My mom and dad met working there.)

    http://stripes.com/07/feb07/gangs/gangs4.html

    Sir Christopher
    The gist of my information was right, but I think I misquoted on the “terrorism training.” Blame me–not the NYT. However, he did acquire his explosives training in the military. That’s not the military’s fault–they didn’t know what he was going to do. Out of all the people that have served in the military over the years, only a few have caused mayhem. That’s a pretty good track record.

    Spartan
    You’ve seen people get shit for wearing a cross? That’s creepy.

    Scott
    thanks for the links, athough I’m kind of creeped out. I work with plants, so no one will care. But having your animal center a fortress won’t help if they target people at home. We have a high profile neurobiology section, which you do need a code to enter. I think it’s great they do eye and Alzheimer’s research.

    Misha
    That’s heartening that your problem person got kicked out, but some people are smart enough not to broadcast their views. Ironically, I was just at Stormfront.com last night, and supposedly, a lot of them interact by posting there. I thought of joining to see what they were saying, but it would probably upset me.

  40. B.C., Imperial Torturer™ Comment by B.C., Imperial Torturer™

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    I guess this is what we’ll have to look forward to for the upcoming television season.

    The Emperor's Dirty Lil' Secret

  41. SoCalOilMan, LC Comment by SoCalOilMan, LC

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    PC

    I was just at Stormfront.com last night

    Now you will have the dark sedans following you…both sides want those MF’ers.

    I didn’t think it was 60 year olds.

    I’m not quit there yet, but if they’d take me, I’d go tomorrow if they’d be convinced I wouldn’t drag ‘em down by having to look out for the old fart.

    I did talk to a recruiter about 5 years ago and I’ll give him credit…he didn’t laugh directly in my face.

  42. Unregistered Comment by leoni2

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    Misha I,

    I told you to stay the heck away from the Yearly Kotz.

    You should know by now, oh Emperor, he just can’t help himself. :em99:

  43. psychochick Comment by psychochick

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    BC
    kind of revolting, but very, nice subtle touch with the author!

  44. CiSSnarl5.7 Comment by CiSSnarl5.7

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    PC,
    I read that and other research about gangs in the military. In my reasearch it seemd a great deal of the items articles and blogs I found as I stated originally are from sources with an axe to grind.

    Do a Google Search on the key words “gangs + U.S. Military” as I did, study the results, overwhelmingingly the top hits on that search are returned from left leaning sources.

    Furthermore, almost anyone in the military or has military experience does not put any real trust in the Stars and Stripes, the S&S gleans 90% of it’s writing these days from ..none other than..drum roll please…the AP. S&S is simply these days a parrot of the MSM.

    My Common sense quip was only to point out that the problem is as usuall by those with an obvious agenda being overblown and not totaly accuarate.

    In that same article it’s mentioned that they think its 1-2% of total military members do they not?

    The common sense in this dictates that that’s a miniscule number of the over all million in the Army alone. Of that 1-2% how many actually survive Basic, and go onto to sucessfull careers in the military, how many manage to maintain thier loyalty to thier gang, I would wager less than half. If they do they ain’t in that gang anymore.

    Gang Bangers have a misplaced sense of loyalty to thier gangs. Were they to join the military, they ARE expected to replace that sort of thinking with things such as duty, honor, and loyality to thier country first and for most.
    That is the cornerstone of the U.S. Military. It always has been, and There’s really no way for a gangbanger to exist and survive in the military and remain loyal to his gang colors, the two cannot co-exsit.

    Your own statement of “its thousands”, the NYT articles, the ANTI-WAR blogs, I saw with this information on it, all point to a boogeyman that does not exsist.
    To hear your side of this and the NYT’s side of this you would think the military is activily recruiting these gang bangers, that they are infesting the ranks and there’s turf wars going on in every garrison in the country, and I’m telling you that’s not happening.

    Buried In the article it also says photos of military members flashing gang signs or found with gang related items, don’t even know sometimes what they are relating to, does it not? They think it’s cool…that hardly makes them a dreaded gangbanger, stupid and naieve maybe but a gangbanger no.

    I’m sorry if you took offense to my common sense quip but I will say that the mis-informed that parrott these sorts of things, are truly part of the problem in the U.S. today. They simply do not know how the miliary functions, and oft times way too eager to find any fault or belive any source that has a problem with way the military conducts it’s business.

  45. psychochick Comment by psychochick

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    Snarl
    I thought S&S was the gold standard–sorry. i did think it was relevant that they were interviewing a military person. Actually, It would make me very happy to know that this is an obscure problem after all.

    Good luck in Kuwait. Hope the heat isn’t roasting you.

  46. psychochick Comment by psychochick

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    Snarl
    I wanted to point out one thing. I don’t think you can write off the SPLC as a left-wing or anti-war group. They work with local law enforcement and the FBI. They don’t just look at white supremacists, they investigate the Mexican Mafia and the black supremacist groups, too.

    When that guy shot up that LA school for Jewish kids, they were the ones that IDed him as a former Aryan Nations member.

  47. BauerPower Comment by BauerPower

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    I’m not watching next season if this shit proves to be true, and not changed to something more believable….

    Joel Surnow must have gotten some serious cash to fire the remaining sane writers that weren’t DailyKos Moron.org shills…..

    RIP Jack Bauer’s juevos.

  48. Kristopher, LC Comment by Kristopher, LC

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    Another decent program invaded by socialist bedwetters.

    Some day the studios might actually figure out that socialist writer = bad ratings.

  49. starboardside Comment by starboardside

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    The difference between genius and stupidity is, genius
    has it’s limits :em93:

  50. Radical Redneck Comment by Radical Redneck

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    Nice touch BC! I used to work at Lifetime - this brings back many memories. Few any good!

    I’ve prolly seen more chick flicks than all the chicks here combined! :em38: :em38: :em98: :em72:

  51. Blackiswhite, Imperial Agent Provocateur Comment by Blackiswhite, Imperial Agent Provocateur

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    I’ve been watching JAG on DVD with Mrs. BiW more than anything else, anyway. Yeah, its a guilty pleasure, but at least I don’t question their patriotism.

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    :em99: @ misha

    So climate change claims another hero to the rightwing dumbasphere. I guess you’ll have to change your site logo LMFAO.

    Don’t worry misha, keep that fat head of yours up your fat arse in regards to climate change, ignorance is bliss after all.

    Chook.

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    global wormening is vewwwy scawwwy. :em99:

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