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I suppose the Emperor with all the palace transfer woes, forgot the change in Imperial Staff™ working hours. Or at least in my case, an early morning visit for some medieval dental surgery, followed by a few hours of drooling as the Novocaine from Hell wore off, I’m back at work now.

*Memtok, tingle that critter for speaking of his Imperial Sithiness in that tone of typing*

US Slipping In Life Expectancy Rankings

Ahhh, a pitch for Mickey Mastodon’s latest crockumentary, SicKo. Well let’s read on…….

Americans are living longer than ever, but not as long as people in 41 other countries.

Just one more reason to pack the old kit bag and move to anyplace other than here in “The Two Americas”. Of course our wonderful Rottie readers immediately know what’s coming in a sentence or two, right?

For decades, the United States has been slipping in international rankings of life expectancy, as other countries improve health care, nutrition and lifestyles.[Emph Mine-It’s a teaser]

Countries that surpass the U.S. include Japan and most of Europe, as well as Jordan, Guam and the Cayman Islands.

“Something’s wrong here when one of the richest countries in the world, the one that spends the most on health care, is not able to keep up with other countries,” said Dr. Christopher Murray, head of the Institute for Health Metrics and Evaluation at the University of Washington.

Ahh the wonderful Cayman Island health care system that I’ve seen in person, fortunately not as a patient. As I recall it was a cinder-block, one-room shack with a window air-conditioner. The waiting room was spacious and had a distinctively open-air feeling about it. Call it Waiting Room Al Fresco. Dr. Murray, giving head for the ’cause’ of free health care for all.

A baby born in the United States in 2004 will live an average of 77.9 years. That life expectancy ranks 42nd, down from 11th two decades earlier, according to international numbers provided by the Census Bureau and domestic numbers from the National Center for Health Statistics.

2004? Unless, I accidentally triggered one of the sekret Rott Admin Backstage Buttons, I do recall it’s 2007. Smell Factor up another notch.

Andorra, a tiny country in the Pyrenees mountains between France and Spain, had the longest life expectancy, at 83.5 years, according to the Census Bureau. It was followed by Japan, Macau, San Marino and Singapore.

Taking a page out of the James Hansen, school of statistical gerrymandering, Murray finds a sufficiently small sample populace to show the ‘horror of it all’ as the U.S. keeps slipping away to sing with the bleedin’ choir invisible.

The shortest life expectancies were clustered in Sub-Saharan Africa, a region that has been hit hard by an epidemic of HIV and AIDS, as well as famine and civil strife. Swaziland has the shortest, at 34.1 years, followed by Zambia, Angola, Liberia and Zimbabwe.

Civil Strife? Oh you mean genocide don’t you? That does tend to decrease a given population’s life expectancy. Maybe you need to pluck another dingleberry out to impress us with your shameless socialist promotion.

Researchers said several factors have contributed to the United States falling behind other industrialized nations. A major one is that 45 million Americans lack health insurance, while Canada and many European countries have universal health care, they say.

Now that would be the wonderful single-payer, socialist system correct? Where the average canadian citizens waits from 56 to 177 days for an MRI? As well as a system nearing complete bankruptcy and necessitating a massive tax increase to pay for their baby-boomers. The British Medical Association recently reported the only solution to their already bankrupt system is to ration health-care and withhold health care for some categories of patients, such as morbid obesity.

But “it’s not as simple as saying we don’t have national health insurance,” said Sam Harper, an epidemiologist at McGill University in Montreal. “It’s not that easy.”

It’s not that easy or simple to say, but it didn’t seem to stop your colleague in the previous paragraph now did it?

Among the other factors:

• Adults in the United States have one of the highest obesity rates in the world. Nearly a third of U.S. adults 20 years and older are obese, while about two-thirds are overweight, according to the National Center for Health Statistics.

Off to the gulags for the obese, ve haf vays to make you slim, trim und sexy.

“The U.S. has the resources that allow people to get fat and lazy,” said Paul Terry, an assistant professor of epidemiology at Emory University in Atlanta. “We have the luxury of choosing a bad lifestyle as opposed to having one imposed on us by hard times.”

Damn our ancestors for building a 21st Century country with an easier lifestyle than the Cro-Magnon. Off to the state beet farms with those fat, lazy Americans.

• Racial disparities. Black Americans have an average life expectancy of 73.3 years, five years shorter than white Americans.

Black American males have a life expectancy of 69.8 years, slightly longer than the averages for Iran and Syria and slightly shorter than in Nicaragua and Morocco.

Even, the socialist, health-nazis were afraid to spin that one. The gap is closing but the homicide rate among 18-24 year old black males is TEN times those of white male in the same age demographic. That would tend to decrease the mean life expectancy a bit, no?

• A relatively high percentage of babies born in the U.S. die before their first birthday, compared with other industrialized nations.

Forty countries, including Cuba, Taiwan and most of Europe had lower infant mortality rates than the U.S. in 2004. The U.S. rate was 6.8 deaths for every 1,000 live births. It was 13.7 for Black Americans, the same as Saudi Arabia.

That figure is meaningless without one little piece of information left out. FULL-TERM births instead live births. Our medical system is saving much earlier term infants, however that group when factored into ‘live’ births skews the figure down, as preemies still have a high-mortality compared to full-term deliveries.

“It really reflects the social conditions in which African American women grow up and have children,” said Dr. Marie C. McCormick, professor of maternal and child health at the Harvard School of Public Health. “We haven’t done anything to eliminate those disparities.”

Those disparities have come home to roost. The Great Society Programs encouraged the destruction of the nuclear family. Single parenthood became a virtue with huge numbers of out-of-wedlock births. The absence of the male parent has been repeatedly shown to affect the child’s likelihood of engaging in criminal, violent behavior.

Another reason for the U.S. drop in the ranking is that the Census Bureau now tracks life expectancy for a lot more countries — 222 in 2004 — than it did in the 1980s. However, that does not explain why so many countries entered the rankings with longer life expectancies than the United States.

Murray, from the University of Washington, said improved access to health insurance could increase life expectancy. But, he predicted, the U.S. won’t move up in the world rankings as long as the health care debate is limited to insurance.

More smoke to blow up our asses. What’s our next debate in health-care Doc? The Great Vegan vs. Vegetarian Debate™, coming to socialist policy-makers soon.

Policymakers also should focus on ways to reduce cancer, heart disease and lung disease, said Murray. He advocates [goose-JB] stepped-up efforts to reduce tobacco use, control blood pressure, reduce cholesterol and regulate blood sugar.

“Even if we focused only on those four things, we would go along way toward improving health care in the United States,” Murray said. “The starting point is the recognition that the U.S. does not have the best health care system. There are still an awful lot of people who think it does.”

When ‘policymakers’ focus, we get regulation. All Hail The Healthy Lifestyle Reich, All Hail Hilary Care Reich !!!

No thanks, I’ll take the days my maker has in store for me.

59 Responses to “Everyone Kicks The Bucket-Women and Children Hit Hardest”
  1. SoCalOilMan, LC Comment by SoCalOilMan, LC

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    Unless someone can show me the people that went out and counted these numbers, I just will not give them credence. Like I believe that some African nation has the slightest idea of how many people are alive, outside of planning on how many bullets to buy next year so they can *steal the resources* stop the oppression of their people.

    I think I’ll stay here. I may die a little younger, but I’ll die happy and well feed.

  2. DJ Allyn,  ITW Comment by DJ Allyn, ITW

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    Or at least in my case, an early morning visit for some medieval dental surgery

    Doncha feel better now?

    I hope so…

  3. Unregistered Comment by Cheryl

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    Yep. Jordan’s the place I wanna be or better yet Cuba. And of course in “those 40 other countries” their dietary habits are MUCH superior to the over-fed fat slobs in Amerika. In fact, anything they do is superior to to us. Those misinformed stoopids who think Amerika has the best healthcare system. Sillies.

    We all know what this is a preface to. Why, the socialized healthcare of Madame Hillary, the socialized healthcare that Hillary claims she never, ever espoused. Could’ve fooled me. :em99:

  4. LC Crusader Comment by LC Crusader

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    Countries that surpass the U.S. include Japan and most of Europe, as well as Jordan, Guam and the Cayman Islands.

    Soory my media friends, we own Guam. It is the U.S. We have owned them since before World War II. More slant in the article.

  5. Unregistered Comment by Draven32

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    Too many people getting in shape? Just change the BMI numbers… suddenly, you have an ‘obesity epidemic’.

    Just to remind everyone, by these current obesity rules, the Governator of Kaliforniastan was ‘obese’ at the height of his first career, and still teeters between merely overweight and obese. So are most if not all professional football players. :em98:

  6. Unregistered Comment by mindy1

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    I heard Japan lives longer because it’s residents tend to simply eat healthier foods-it’s partly a cultural thing. However, if you read america alone by mark steyn, he notes that Japan is dying because fewer people have babies, and this is also true in much of europe. So even though they live longer, the U.S. as it currently exits will stay the same while the demographics of Europe will change. What do you think?

  7. Deathknyte Comment by Deathknyte

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    Policymakers also should focus on ways to reduce cancer, heart disease and lung disease,

    Heart disease will lead to regulation of the fat content in your food, lung disease will mean a nation-wide ban on smoking. As far as cancer goes, getting older will lead to cancer too, as your cells lose some critical DNA in the copying process.

    I would say diet and exercise have alot more to do with how long your going to live then the amount of money you pay for health care. Americans work considerably harder than europeans do. How long are government-mandated vacations there? Six weeks in Switzerland, a month in france? Americans tend not to even use the full two weeks we get. Mostly because in America, you we know we can be replaced.
    Some interesting bits of data.

    Germans receive six weeks off each year plus 11 to 13 single-day paid holidays and work fewer hours per year than any other industrial nation — 1, 557 hours a year in the former West Germany (700 hours less than in the 1960s, when Germany was dubbed an “economic miracle”) compared with 1,605 for France, 1,693 for Britain and more than 1,900 for the United States.

    There are also alot of articals of magazine writers whining about how brutal their workweeks are, oh my, fifty to sixty hours doing research and TYPING! How savage!

    Yeesh put these people to work on a factory line for a month and then see what they say.

  8. Deathknyte Comment by Deathknyte

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    Sonofabitch it ate my comment.

    Policymakers also should focus on ways to reduce cancer, heart disease and lung disease,

    Which means government mandated fat content in your food and a nation-wide ban on smoking. As far as cancer goes just getting older will cause that as your cells lose the DNA to stop reproducing in the copying process.

    Another reason for Americans not being healthier is the fact that we take half to a third of the time off that other nations governments require buisnesses to give thier employees in other nations. In America, you can be replaced rather quickly.

    I am not going to look up the data again (ok, I did) but in short, Germany and Switzerland have six weeks, france has a month, and we get two weeks or less. There is interesting data in both of the links.

  9. Deathknyte Comment by Deathknyte

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    Goddammit, again?!
    Sonofabitch it ate my comment.

    Policymakers also should focus on ways to reduce cancer, heart disease and lung disease,

    Which means government mandated fat content in your food and a nation-wide ban on smoking. As far as cancer goes just getting older will cause that as your cells lose the DNA to stop reproducing in the copying process.

    Another reason for Americans not being healthier is the fact that we take half to a third of the time off that other nations governments require buisnesses to give thier employees in other nations. In America, you can be replaced rather quickly.

    I am not going to look up the data again (ok, I did) but in short, Germany and Switzerland have six weeks, france has a month, and we get two weeks or less. There is interesting data in both of the links.

  10. Deathknyte Comment by Deathknyte

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    Keeps eating my comments. Hell with it.

  11. LC Wil Comment by LC Wil

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    IIRC, The death rate has been the same during most of recorded history, with a couple of minor exceptions detailed in The Bible: That is, one to a customer.

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    Now the difference between the longest (Andorra, 83.5 years) and the United States (# 41, @ 77.9 years), amounting to 5.6 years, may be nothing more than an artifact of the way that the data is gathered.

    A relatively high percentage of babies born in the U.S. die before their first birthday, compared with other industrialized nations.

    That is to say, in many other countries, they are kind enough to die before they count against the country’s life expectancy figure; that is to say that in, oh, to pick a country out of the air, Andorra, if a child fails to live through the first week after birth, it does not count as a live birth (in other words, it is counted as a miscarriage). Surprisingly, perhaps, to the authors of this POS study, in the United States, it counts as a live birth if the child takes ONE breath. In some Countries, it doesn’t count until the child’s first birthday. Isn’t that special.

    I would expect that minor, statistical, not worth mentioning differences such as the above would account for almost all of the difference.

    Again, as Jackboot so aptly pointed out, full term means different things in the U.S. and in, say, Cuba.

    The U.S. saves children that would be written off in the delivery room in almost every other country with no further effort, including such Western Countries as Great Britain, Ireland and Australia. For instance, when my eldest was born, there were as residents of the NICU (Neonatal Intensive Care Unit) of the hospital (one of the best in the Country for childrens health care, BTW) a pair of twin girls, born way the hell too early. They had a COMBINED WEIGHT of 2.1 kilograms (yes, about 2 1/2 pounds apiece).

    They both lived, although both were guests of the NICU until they were past their first birthday.

    Now, had perhaps, these two pretty young girls (13 now) been born damn near anywhere else in the world, they would not be alive.

    BTW, they were black, if that makes any difference to the bean counters in the audience.

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    Balance that against your propaganda, fuckwidt.

    I like it here. So go take a flying fuck at a rolling donut and kiss my ass.

    Biotch.

  12. LC&IB Vulcanrider Comment by LC&IB Vulcanrider

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    Draven32 says:

    Too many people getting in shape? Just change the BMI numbers… suddenly, you have an ‘obesity epidemic’.

    How about taking the old body fat v. muscle mass quotient, dumping it and coming up with the BMI to begin with? While I was on active duty, they measured your height, took several tape measurements, looked it up on a chart to determine your body fat content, and that’s what they went with. Then, the miracle of BMI came out, and they tossed the whole thing. Now, if your so many inches tall, you should weigh this much, and that’s it. No matter if you have a 34 inch waist, a 50 inch chest and a 20 inch neck, you’re overweight or worse, obese based on a “chart”. That’s why every professional body builder in the world suddenly became obese, as well as most other athletes.

    And not only did the docs buy it (hell, gave them more patients), so did the insurance companies, and we’re ALL paying for it. Not everyone can be a skinny, anorexic stick waiting for a high wind, life just ain’t like that.

  13. LC Wil Comment by LC Wil

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    Oh, and as an aside, when someone shows me people leaving Southern Kkkalifornistan to go to either Canada for Major Surgery, or to London for Dental Care, or to Pakistan for Diagnostic Services, or to Taiwan for Cancer treatments, then I will be impressed.

    Unitl then, FOAD.

  14. LC Wil Comment by LC Wil

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    Oh, hell, Vulcanrider, does that bring back memories.

    Young sojer, worked for me in about 1985, in Hawaii. They chaged the rules on body fat measurements. Kid was 6 foot nuttin’, weighed about 325.

    Bench pressed VW beetles. Never more then ten reps in a session, but I ain’t takin a punch from him.

    The Army tossed him out for being overweight. No appeal. No second opinion. He was over the standard, end of report.

    The Marines (Thank God!) swore him in the next day. Some sanity prevailed.

  15. LC JackBoot IC/A-OBR Comment by LC JackBoot IC/A-OBR

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    DJ-

    Doncha feel better now?

    Yes actually, Hyrdocodone/APAP 7.5/750 is your friend, when taken as directed of course.

    LC Wil-

    Now the difference between the longest (Andorra, 83.5 years) and the United States (# 41, @ 77.9 years), amounting to 5.6 years, may be nothing more than an artifact of the way that the data is gathered.

    and

    I would expect that minor, statistical, not worth mentioning differences such as the above would account for almost all of the difference.

    ZACKLY !!! I plucked some old statistics outta my brain finally and you are 100% correct. The difference between #1 and #41 on the ‘list’ is within standard deviation for the populations selected, IOW the difference is meaningless in mathematical terms, let alone well known ‘adjustments‘ of hockey sticks et al.

  16. LC&IB Vulcanrider Comment by LC&IB Vulcanrider

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    Oh, hell, Vulcanrider, does that bring back memories.

    Same here, Wil, young airman finishes second in a body-building contest on a Saturday, and Monday is in the Commander’s office signing paperwork placing him on the “fat-boy” program. He worked in MWR and a lot of us football players trained with him (not at the same intensity, of course). We couldn’t freakin’ believe it, but it was true. He did his 4 and bolted, and we lost not only a physical specimen that would have been a great recruiter, but a damn good airman as well.

    But, even though his bodyfat was water tank measured at, get this, 4%, he had to go. There’s something seriously wrong with that, and it gets worse every time the government gets involved with our “health”.

    Sorry I missed the bold on my response to you Draven, it’s been a long day…LOL

  17. sig94 Comment by sig94

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    Wil, a classmate of mine (police academy) has a son who was a body builder. Same thing, he was six foot tall and 280 pounds of bone-crunching sinew. Did a million push ups, sit ups, pull ups - too no avail. The County personnel dipwads threw him off the police candidate list because he weighed too much. I saw these same idiots pass skinny little girls who could barely crack a 3″ pull up and yet disqualify a guy because be didn’t have his arms/elbows absolutely straight when he pulled up.

  18. LC Wil Comment by LC Wil

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    That’s the point. Somewhere, there has to be some common sense in the loop.

    When you see a kid CURL 400 pounds, I don’t give a damn what the rule book says, he is not in bad shape. Anyone who can run 2 miles in 14 minutes while carrying 400 pounds, is not a health risk.

    BTW, he was Samoan (if you hadn’t already guessed), not a ‘roid freak.

  19. L.C. Mope, Imperial Offsetter Comment by L.C. Mope, Imperial Offsetter

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    J.B.

    Researchers said several factors have contributed to the United States falling behind other industrialized nations. A major one is that 45 million Americans lack health insurance, while Canada and many European countries have universal health care, they say.

    OK. Now. Before I burn down the inter-web-tubes with a steam-out-my-ears rant, allow me to just make two points.

    1) One of the reasons of the diffence was the inclusion of more (smaller, perhaps?) countries, as noted in this statement:

    Another reason for the U.S. drop in the ranking is that the Census Bureau now tracks life expectancy for a lot more countries — 222 in 2004 — than it did in the 1980s

    Whatever. If you want to spend six months of your life in a waiting room, waiting for some doctor to return from his union required safty meeting, be my guest. I perfer to amble across the street and pick up a pack of smokes while I wait. If I get hit by a bus it’ll ruin your statisics. Pinhead.

    2) Now let’s move on to this idea the insurance is the answer. IT IS NOT. Insurance is willfull socialism. Insurance is the problem.

    Now, I am sure some of you think that health care without insurance would be to exorbinant to pay for. Let me assure you that the marketplace would take care of that. Without insurance the price of a given proceedure would succomb to what the market can bear.

    I’ve seen it with my own eyes.

    Now back to your regularly scheduled beer. Before I blow out my pyloric valve.

  20. Ten-Ten Comment by Ten-Ten

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    Let me take this opportunity to state this fact: Ten out of ten people die in their lifetimes.

    Where will you spend eternity?

  21. L.C. Mope, Imperial Offsetter Comment by L.C. Mope, Imperial Offsetter

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    100% of the people that drink water die.

  22. LC JackBoot IC/A-OBR Comment by LC JackBoot IC/A-OBR

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    That’s the point. Somewhere, there has to be some common sense in the loop.

    There is none. Saw the same thing in the canoe club, we had a kid in nuklar power skool, Samoan. The kid could spin shut one of the power plant valves that normally took 3 sailors, one-handed !! He got pulled into the fat-boy program on Height/Weight and of course, didn’t make it. Another good sailor discharged from the program and he was 4.0 academically as well. Go figger.

  23. Ten-Ten Comment by Ten-Ten

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    …and .001% of posters get banned on their first attempt at Super Cheese Eater….(fwenchie)

  24. LC JackBoot IC/A-OBR Comment by LC JackBoot IC/A-OBR

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    Akismet just loves to eat DK’s posts for some reason. I let him out of purgatory, but damned if I know why that happens to him.

    If all else fails, Blame Bush DJ.

  25. L.C. Mope, Imperial Offsetter Comment by L.C. Mope, Imperial Offsetter

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    …and .001% of posters get banned on their first attempt at Super Cheese Eater

    I, for one, was damn impressed. You got that cheese bender to surrender with one post!

    I’ll have to bring you to the next meeting of the Pirate Armada and nominate you for… dare I say?… ensign!

  26. LittleRott84 Comment by LittleRott84

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    Vulcan-

    At my reserve unit, we still use the old system of determining body fat. That’s what saves so many people of either getting a dishonorable discharge or going on weight control (if a soldier is over his weight, but still makes body fat, the powers that be lay off).
    BMI is the biggest joke on earth, because like you said, they don’t take muscle into account.

  27. LC SkyeChild G.L.O.R. Comment by LC SkyeChild G.L.O.R.

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    A major one is that 45 million Americans lack health insurance

    I have to wonder: how many of those who are lacking health insurance have cell phones and cable television, drink beer, smoke cigarettes, eat junk food…

    All of those things cost money, and all are luxuries. From what I understand, a carton of cigs alone is over 60 bucks…

  28. Unregistered Comment by anomdragon

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    Okay, here is a question for these folks. How many of the deaths are due to disease and how many are due to accident/trauma. If I remeber correctly the last time this was surveyed, trauma was mainly in the younger age groups and disease was in the oleder age groups. I can’t remeber when or where I saw this except that it was years ago. I also think that population wise the trauma was higher. Does anyone else remember this?

    I was involved in an accident that caused major damage to my body and I feel that if we had been under universal health care I would not be alive, at best if I was alive I would still be in a wheelchair. I required over $300,000 dollars worth of reconstructive surgery and care. Would universal healthcare been able to handle this in a month? I seriously doubt it.

    Our health care system, even with the 45 million uninsured people, are taken better care of than elsewhere. I feel we have have a higher number of trauma type deaths due to the fact that Americans can afford faster, stronger and better play toys than elsewhere in the world, and we demand the same. Some congress critter will realize this and decide we need more nanny state laws to protect us. We Americans are more willing to participate in activities that are inherently dangerous because we still have that streak of independence and adventure.
    Anyone feel that I am totally off the mark here or am I right?

  29. Unregistered Comment by Draven32

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    From what I understand, a carton of cigs alone is over 60 bucks…

    Apparently you’re operating by rumor. Try $35.

  30. LC SkyeChild G.L.O.R. Comment by LC SkyeChild G.L.O.R.

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    Draven,

    Well, since I don’t smoke, rumor was all I had to go on. That’s still pretty expensive.

  31. LC JackBoot IC/A-OBR Comment by LC JackBoot IC/A-OBR

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    From what I understand, a carton of cigs alone is over 60 bucks

    More like $75-80 in the fetid, stinking hole otherwise known as NYC. The price of electing a liberal RINO is rather steep isn’t it?

    Our health care system, even with the 45 million uninsured people

    What’s left unsaid in this favorite figure the left kicks about, is that virtually NO ONE is unable to get medical care in some form or other. That number is merely a guesstimate of persons not having private health insurance. I’ll take a flyer here and just about guarantee it includes illegal aliens.

  32. Ten-Ten Comment by Ten-Ten

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    From what I understand, a carton of cigs alone is over 60 bucks

    $26 at this little shop in Oklahoma.

  33. LC Gunsniper Comment by LC Gunsniper

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    I’ll take a flyer here and just about guarantee it includes illegal aliens.

    …and rich folks who choose not to purchase insurance because they can afford to forego doing so and young folks who choose not to purchase insurance since they are less likely to need it.

  34. LC Cheapshot911, Dept. of Redneck Tech Comment by LC Cheapshot911, Dept. of Redneck Tech

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    A major one is that 45 million Americans lack health insurance

    Not having a social security number ensure’s they’re not burdened with the outrageous cost of health care.
    We don’ need no paper trails!

  35. Blackiswhite, Imperial Agent Provocateur Comment by Blackiswhite, Imperial Agent Provocateur

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    I guess I’m a gonna die!

  36. LC 0311 crunchie Comment by LC 0311 crunchie

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    You know, that magical number of “uninsured” Americans is just like the number of homeless, made up and vastly exaggerated. From Fox News.

    There is a battle in Chicago over just how many homeless people are on the streets. Democratic Mayor Richard Daley says homelessness is down 12 percent the last two years — and Daley’s government comes to a figure of just under 6,000 homeless on the streets.

    But the Chicago Sun Times reports a 15 week foot patrol of the downtown area revealed a new number for how many people are sleeping outside each night — 24. That’s right — just 24!

    The housing commissioner says — “the public perception is it should have been a higher number, but we couldn’t find it.”

    Homeless advocates are livid. The executive director of the Chicago Coalition for the Homeless says the count is “ludicrous” — and says the city is trying to “sanitize” its image to bolster its chances of winning a bid to host the 2016 Olympic Games.

  37. L.C. Mope, Imperial Offsetter Comment by L.C. Mope, Imperial Offsetter

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    :em99:

    I did see that Crunch-ster. They even count people that are “doubled up”. Can you say “Illegal Aliens”? :em99:

    Oh well, at least we have wrought iron fences. :em98:

    Smoking will be banned this year from Soldier Field, and if you have the temerity to walk outside to smoke, you can’ come back in. Sheesh… I can remember when the players smoked on the sidelines!

  38. L.C. Mope, Imperial Offsetter Comment by L.C. Mope, Imperial Offsetter

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    Emperor! There’s been an invasion! To Arms!

    Countries that surpass the U.S. include Japan and most of Europe, as well as Jordan, Guam and the Cayman Islands.

  39. LC Mike in Chi Comment by LC Mike in Chi

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    Each year, Dihydrogen Monoxide is a known causative component in many thousands of deaths and is a major contributor to millions upon millions of dollars in damage to property and the environment. Some of the known perils of Dihydrogen Monoxide are:

    * Death due to accidental inhalation of DHMO, even in small quantities.
    * Prolonged exposure to solid DHMO causes severe tissue damage.
    * Excessive ingestion produces a number of unpleasant though not typically life-threatening side-effects.
    * DHMO is a major component of acid rain.
    * Gaseous DHMO can cause severe burns.
    * Contributes to soil erosion.
    * Leads to corrosion and oxidation of many metals.
    * Contamination of electrical systems often causes short-circuits.
    * Exposure decreases effectiveness of automobile brakes.
    * Found in biopsies of pre-cancerous tumors and lesions.
    * Given to vicious dogs involved in recent deadly attacks.
    * Often associated with killer cyclones in the U.S. Midwest and elsewhere, and in hurricanes including deadly storms in Florida, New Orleans and other areas of the southeastern U.S.
    * Thermal variations in DHMO are a suspected contributor to the El Nino weather effect.

    And the sad note to this scourge of DHMO is, that it is used more in health care then in any other aspect of our lives.

  40. Deathknyte Comment by Deathknyte

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    Akismet just loves to eat DK’s posts for some reason. I let him out of purgatory, but damned if I know why that happens to him.

    If all else fails, Blame Bush DJ.

    Actually, today was the first day. However, vengeance is mine.

    Hands off my DHMO Mike.

  41. L.C. Mope, Imperial Offsetter Comment by L.C. Mope, Imperial Offsetter

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    Cayman Islands:

    The Cayman Islands are a British overseas territory located in the western Caribbean Sea,

    Andorra:

    Andorra (Catalan: Andorra), officially The Principality of Andorra (Catalan: Principat d’Andorra) is a small landlocked country in western Europe, located in the eastern Pyrenees mountains and bordered by Spain and France. Once isolated, it is currently a prosperous country mainly because of tourism and its status as a tax haven.

    (Lower taxes means longer life?)

    Macau:

    The Macau Special Administrative Region, commonly known as Macau or Macao is one of the two special administrative regions (SARs) of the People’s Republic of China (PRC), along with Hong Kong.

    San Marino: One of the European microstates, San Marino has the smallest population of all the members of the Council of Europe. Population 28,117

  42. Unregistered Comment by leoni2, LC

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    San Marino with a population of just over 28,000? Okay, how many people who thinks this report is rigged please raise your hands?

  43. Xystus Comment by Xystus

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    Policymakers also should focus on ways to reduce cancer, heart disease and lung disease, said Murray. He advocates [goose-JB] stepped-up efforts to reduce tobacco use, control blood pressure, reduce cholesterol and regulate blood sugar.

    Policymakers should focus on that obese ƒµ¢≤€® Uncle Sam. The ¢0¢≤$µ¢€® just keeps gettin’ bigger & bigger each year, gorging on huge multi-gigabuck servings every day–& is never satisfied! He always demands more! I may be type-2 diabetic, but any government meddler who wants to regulate my blood sugar can kiss my fat! :em08: I may weigh some 300 lbs/21 stone, but I bet I’m fit enough to throw the bastard (at least partway) across his office… :em12:

  44. Unregistered Comment by fanbladesaresharp

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    WOW, I am way late to the game here. That said, GUAM was on the list. Did the people compiling the list know that Guam is a US territory? Jeezus, after 81 years in the middle of the fucking Pacific on an iland the size of oh, Rhode Island, I’d want to die too. That has to be boring as hell.

  45. Unregistered Comment by LaVache

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    Am I an “healthcare crisis denier” if I question the wisdom of forcing those of us who exercise and eat right to subsidize the lifestyle choices of the Micheal Moores of the world?

  46. baslimthecripple Comment by baslimthecripple

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    “We haven’t done anything to eliminate those disparities.”

    Ya wanna quit having premmie babies with higher neonatal mortality rates, put down the crack pipe, darlin’.

    PS: Guam has been US since we kicked snot out of Spain in 1898.

  47. Unregistered Comment by Cheryl

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    More like $75-80 in the fetid, stinking hole otherwise known as NYC. The price of electing a liberal RINO is rather steep isn’t it?

    Tell me about it Jackboot!

    But as long as we can have a shiny, new muzzie madrassa opening up in the borough of Brooklyn at taxpayer expense, courtesy of Messrs. Bloom-turd and Klein [schools chancellor :em99: ], it’s all peachy keen worthwhile. :em72: :em08: :em12:

  48. Kristopher, LC Comment by Kristopher, LC

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    Hmmm. I think the slightly lower US rate is rather easy to explain. Food is cheap in the US. You really have to be badly broken to find a way to starve here. Because food is cheap, you see people using food as entertainment here. The Romans had similar issues … they dealt with it by using vomitoriums.

    People who live on restricted diets do live a bit longer. More boring lives … but a few years longer.

    I’ll take that steak, and the risk, thank you.

  49. ohio right wing nut Comment by ohio right wing nut

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    DHMO Should be completly outlawed NOW!!!!

    MOPE do you sell water offsets?

  50. LXi Comment by LXi

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    Think how much longer we would live if the illegal immigrants would stop killing Americans. Newark, anyone? Houston, we have a big problem.

  51. MuscleDaddy Comment by MuscleDaddy

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    I really didn’t see anything in any of those doom-talking points that could even be addressed by socialized healthcare.

    ** “Racial disparities?” - Nope.

    ** The “relatively high percentage of babies born in the U.S. die before their first birthday, compared with other industrialized nations.”
    - Well there you go! If we just handled it the way the socialized-medicine countries do and just didn’t bother to save ANY of the preemies & other high-risk births - those wouldn’t count against our numbers either! Brilliant!

    ** the social conditions in which African American women grow up and have children? - Nope.

    ** Also don’t see how the 10x homicide rate for 18-24 black males is supposed to be addressed by socialist healthcare…

    ** Also don’t see how “Americans get fat because we have an abundance of food” is supposed to be addressed by socialist healthcare…

    In fact, I’m kind of wondering when, in all this yappering about Socialist Healthcare, they’re going to start talking about issues that would be addressed by implementing Socialist Healthcare…

    Also - shout-out to Draven 32:

    Too many people getting in shape? Just change the BMI numbers… suddenly, you have an ‘obesity epidemic’.

    Just to remind everyone, by these current obesity rules, the Governator of Kaliforniastan was ‘obese’ at the height of his first career, and still teeters between merely overweight and obese. So are most if not all professional football players

    Hoo-Ah, brother!

    I couldn’t enlist in the Marines because they wouldn’t come off of that stinkin’ chart for my big, heavy, weight-lifting self!

    Told the Army recruiter, who said: WTF!?! C’mere, I’m putting a tape on you - there! Good to go!”

    - MuscleDaddy

  52. Unregistered Comment by LC Croaker

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    That is to say, in many other countries, they are kind enough to die before they count against the country’s life expectancy figure; that is to say that in, oh, to pick a country out of the air, Andorra, if a child fails to live through the first week after birth, it does not count as a live birth (in other words, it is counted as a miscarriage). Surprisingly, perhaps, to the authors of this POS study, in the United States, it counts as a live birth if the child takes ONE breath. In some Countries, it doesn’t count until the child’s first birthday. Isn’t that special.

    I would expect that minor, statistical, not worth mentioning differences such as the above would account for almost all of the difference.

    This also fails to take into account the number of infants that would have survived had they not been aborted. I note that it doesn’t seem to mention abortion rates at all…

  53. MasterGuns, Imperial Marine Comment by MasterGuns, Imperial Marine

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    My weight was 212# when I retired…..I’m 6′1″. USMC standard was 209# for my height. I had a moron try to put me on weight control. My command GAF’d him off same as I did.

    BTW…..I weigh 215# as of 10 minutes ago.

    Idiots.

    Semper Fi

  54. MuscleDaddy Comment by MuscleDaddy

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    Hey MasterGuns,

    I was about 6′00″ @ about 265 - martial arts instructor, benched around 310, but they didn’t want to hear it.

    All hail the Holy Chart.

    I guess it worked out in the end, though.

    - MuscleDaddy

  55. Unregistered Comment by CKO1986

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    Deathknyte said:Sonofabitch it ate my comment.

    Maybe it was hungry. :em93:

  56. hitnrun Comment by hitnrun

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    US Slipping In Life Expectancy Rankings

    This is why everyone to the right of Joe Lieberman doesn’t trust liberal news items, even when it’s something- like Life Expectancy Rankings- that we can all see with our own eyes.

    Neither the article nor the leftosphere is likely to mention that removing African Americans and Hispanics from the survey almost entirely closes the gap between Americans and Andorrans.

    Basically, the disparity stems from the following:

    1) We’re blacker (biology)
    2) We’re blacker (ghetto violence)
    3) We eat too much
    4) We smoke too much

    And that’s about it.

    Another reason for the U.S. drop in the ranking is that the Census Bureau now tracks life expectancy for a lot more countries — 222 in 2004 — than it did in the 1980s. However, that does not explain why so many countries entered the rankings with longer life expectancies than the United States.

    It doesn’t? Did you just pull that out of your ass? WHICH countries are tracked that weren’t back in the 1980s? If they’re mostly all-white, rustic or suburban, peaceful backwaters like Andorra…well then, yes, that would explain it entirely.

  57. Deathknyte Comment by Deathknyte

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    Maybe it was hungry. :em93:

    # :em99:

  58. psychochick Comment by psychochick

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    Thought you were rid of me!

    By the way, if you go to see the mission that “Vertigo” was filmed at, there isn’t a tower! It had crumbled, and they shot on set and grafted it in. I’m afraid of heights, but I thought maybe if I could clutch the railing, I could make it up. I’ll never know.

    –the rates for young black homicide are horrendous, but there are genetic variances in the rates of some major diseases for blacks. High blood pressure is one–don’t think you can entirely write it off to homicide and poor living. (Although I do have some vague memories of black life expentancy rates being really high if you corrected for the homicides.)

    –I have worked in the fitness industry (what a joke!) and realize that really fit men and women skew way off on the BMI scale (and am disturbed to read that super-fit men would get kicked out of the military for that). However, that does not abrogate the fact that obesity is a huge problem in this country and takes a real health toll–shorter life span, greater chances of cancers and dementia.

    Skychild
    You can give up your smoking and cable tv, but that won’t help if you can’t find a program to insure you. Even a lot of middle class people are having trouble getting health insurance because they screen you out for the slightest detail (athlete’s foot!). (Real estate agents who are individual contractors, for instance.) There is no way in hell that I could get new insurance on my own, since I have several serious conditions.

    Half of bankrupties are for medical bills, and so is a fair amount of homelessness.

    Now don’t go assuming I’m for Hillary’s plan missy. I know you! But I would keep my eye out for something new that is a little less draconian. I don’t say that lightlly. So far this year, I’ve had a radioactive thyroid scan, been in the hospital, had 5 iron IVs and am having an endoscopy tomorrow. The ability to have procedures is very important to keeping me going, so I can write obnoxious posts in the middle of the night.

    Xystus
    Since you are dealing with your diabetes, I really doubt the government would step in to regulate your blood sugar. (what kind of fascists would they be?)

    I think the issue is screening people who do not realize they have it before they end up like me in the hospital in a coma with blood sugar counts of 1200. (The doctor I had gone to see a few days before when I had obvious problems failed to check my blood sugar that day.)

    It’s should be very cost effective to catch the people with problems and treat them, so they don’t need hospitalization and put off the side effects as long as possible.

    —–
    There actually was a hospital that started analyzing who the most expensive patients in the ER were. One was a diabetic that was running $100,000 grand a year. They started giving her diabetic supplies, and her cost to the hosptial went way down (I forget if she stopped going to the ER totally or not).

  59. SoCalOilMan, LC Comment by SoCalOilMan, LC

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    More like $75-80 in the fetid, stinking hole otherwise known as NYC. The price of electing a liberal RINO is rather steep isn’t it?

    Today I paid $29.99 + tax for a carton of Marlboro, that’s $32.47 out the door. Of course the $1.50 per pack (that I know of) is hidden in the base price. Now they are talking about a $2.50 per pack tax to “pay for children’s health insurance.”

    At around $6.00/pack, yeah, I’ll quit (or at lest really, really try). However, if I quit, my foreman (who went on the patch a couple of days ago) quits, and the other guy I work with who is trying to quit for the fifty-whatever time does quits, where do they get the money for this program that they’ve already allocated funds for?

    Let’s look at New York as a trend center. Put a $0.75 cent/bottle sin tax on BOTTLED WATER. Thank god, I thought they would’ve gone after beer or peanut butter next.