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Okay, after seeing a few threads go totally off the rails, I thought it would be a nice thing to have an occasional open thread where you can just say whatever you want right off the top (or bottom) of your head.

You can talk about the love of my life:

 

pusspuss001.jpg

Or anything else you want. It is all up to you, so have fun.

(Update: Click the “Give us more, O Emperor! to see DJ’s other kitty—B.)

DJ's OTHER Cat

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228 Responses to “DJ’s Totally Off-Topic, Open Thread #1”
  1. LC Wil Comment by LC Wil

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    You can talk about the love of my life:

    I’m gonna completely pass by the obvious comment . .

  2. LC Wil Comment by LC Wil

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    Oh, and FOISTEST!

    neener, neener, neener!

  3. LC Wil Comment by LC Wil

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    What happened to the nekkid wimmin on the left sidebar?

  4. DJ Allyn,  ITW Comment by DJ Allyn, ITW

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    I’m gonna completely pass by the obvious comment . .

    I’ll bet you can’t guess what her name is…

  5. BauerPower Comment by BauerPower

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    Well, this ain’t nekkid, but I hope it’s OK…..

    Amy Adams

    Kate Beckinsale

  6. LC Wil Comment by LC Wil

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    I’m scared to ask, quite frankly.

  7. Unregistered Comment by Cheryl

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    What a beautiful cat, DJ. Even though you’re a lib, and I am somewhere to the right of Attila the Hun, I can understand why she’s the love of your life. I love the critters myself. Pay no heed to crude remarks of others.

  8. BauerPower Comment by BauerPower

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    Or even this…..

    Sienna Miller

  9. Redneck Comment by Redneck

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    I can’t believe TAIR is advocating cat-blogging.

    Ugh.

    I’d rather talk about football and boobies. But that’s just me.

  10. LC Wil Comment by LC Wil

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    Not quite the same thing, BauerPower, but works fer me!

  11. BauerPower Comment by BauerPower

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    Sorry to distract, I just had to post some stuff for some of the other dudes here…. Do any of you men object?

  12. Blackiswhite, Imperial Agent Provocateur Comment by Blackiswhite, Imperial Agent Provocateur

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    Good. Its about time we got to talk about the problem of Antidisestblishmentarianism.

    Seriously, though, I about went off the rails with the story about the Dutch catholic biship who suggested that they just call God “Allah” to ease tensions in Holland. Perhaps if they just deported their anti-assimilation groups, then there would not be a problem.

  13. BauerPower Comment by BauerPower

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    OK, I got the clarification on next year of 24… It’s not Jack Bauer helps Al Gore save the rain forest, thank God. It’s the crew using more recyclable stuff during its filming, and all that…. no public service announcement for CAIR or Greenpeace or the Daily Kos-suckers….

  14. BauerPower Comment by BauerPower

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    Black, that bishop is not a real Christian, if he’s willing to call The Lord, Allah. The Lord I know is not a pedophile. The Lord I worship took one for all humanity and does not demand the death of those against Him. Nor does the real God demand some 7th Century form of living……My Lord and that bishop’s god are two different men apparently.

  15. BauerPower Comment by BauerPower

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    Padilla gets sentenced to life….but will likely appeal for 20 years….

    Rope, Scaffold, Padilla, some assembly required.

    Next, rope, scaffold, stupid ass lawyers of Padilla’s.

  16. BauerPower Comment by BauerPower

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    By the way, Allyn, nice cat by the way.

  17. Unregistered Comment by Cheryl

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    Good news about Padilla. :em94: :em93: I was suprised by the life sentence. I would not want to hedge any bets that it gets reduced because of some “technical” violation of the vermin’s rights.

  18. DJ Allyn,  ITW Comment by DJ Allyn, ITW

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    The Lord I know is not a pedophile.

    And you think “Allah” is?

    Allah (Arabic: اللّٰه, Allāh) is the standard Arabic word for “God”. The term is best known in the West for its use by Muslims as a reference to God.[1] Arabic-speakers of all faiths, including Christians and Jews, use the word “Allah” to mean “God”.[2] The Muslim and Christian Arabs of today have no other word for ‘God’ than ‘Allah’.[3] In pre-Islamic Arabia, Allah was used by pagan Meccans as a reference to the creator-god, possibly the supreme deity.

    In other words, Allah and God translates to the same thing.

    By the way, Allyn, nice cat by the way.

    Yes, yes she is. Her name is Puss-Puss, and she waits for me in the driveway to get home and she won’t let me get out of her sight while I am at home.

  19. LC Wil Comment by LC Wil

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    Her name is Puss-Puss,

    . . *whew* . .

    She is pretty, Dave. Bet she’s spoiled rotten.

  20. Unregistered Comment by Cheryl

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    Her name is Puss-Puss, and she waits for me in the driveway to get home and she won’t let me get out of her sight while I am at home.

    AWWWWW! Not sarcastic!

  21. DJ Allyn,  ITW Comment by DJ Allyn, ITW

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    I was suprised by the life sentence. I would not want to hedge any bets that it gets reduced because of some “technical” violation of the vermin’s rights.

    He has only been found guilty so far. He hasn’t technically been convicted because he hasn’t been sentenced yet.

    It is expected that he will get a “life sentence”, which in this case is 420 months. (life without is only available to cases where there was a loss of life.)

  22. Unregistered Comment by leoni2, LC

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    BauerPower,

    Sorry to distract, I just had to post some stuff for some of the other dudes here…. Do any of you men object?

    Object? Heck no. In fact, the more the better. Now, the gals on the other hand….

  23. DJ Allyn,  ITW Comment by DJ Allyn, ITW

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    Bet she’s spoiled rotten.

    There is an old saying that cats don’t have “owners”, they have “staff”

    But yes, I spoil the hell outta her.

  24. Unregistered Comment by leoni2, LC

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    BIS,

    Seriously, though, I about went off the rails with the story about the Dutch catholic biship who suggested that they just call God “Allah” to ease tensions in Holland. Perhaps if they just deported their anti-assimilation groups, then there would not be a problem.

    When I saw that the first same that entered my brain was, this guy’s a bishop????

  25. Unregistered Comment by leoni2, LC

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    I meant thing, not same. Quick fingers again. Bad fingers, bad!

  26. Blackiswhite, Imperial Agent Provocateur Comment by Blackiswhite, Imperial Agent Provocateur

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    I figure he and Pope Benny are gonna have a little chat.

  27. Unregistered Comment by leoni2, LC

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    BIS,

    One can only hope!

  28. Vergeltung Comment by Vergeltung

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    I may be a little out of turn here, as I am new, but we need more people who can start on-topic, important threads here. I mean, the dirty bomber scum bag has been convicted, and we got nothing going here. just chick pix. :em41: (not that that is bad, in and of itself. ;) ).

    And that’s just one example of a breaking news item that is not addressed quickly (or ever). Just my 2 cents. :em69:

  29. Unregistered Comment by leoni2, LC

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    Vergeltung,

    Don’t worry. The Emperor or one of his staff will get to putting that asshat on his own spit and start roasting him soon enough. ;)

  30. Unregistered Comment by leoni2, LC

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    Oh, and speaking of news, look what came up on LGF just now: http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3438591,00.html

    Sounds like the Poles has some balls on them. :em95:

  31. Unregistered Comment by Lord Spatula I, King & Tyrant

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    Okay, here’s something:  When was the last time that none of the Rott’s top three posts were written by either Misha or BC?

    (I dunno, either.  It’s prolly never happened.)

    In other words, Allah and God translates to the same thing.

    Uh huh.  Somehow, Dave, I think that if you ask a Mooselimb about Allah’s son, you’ll get quite the blank stare.

  32. LC Cheapshot911, Dept. of Redneck Tech Comment by LC Cheapshot911, Dept. of Redneck Tech

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    D’ya like to see the bad guys get it?

  33. LC JackBoot IC/A-OBR Comment by LC JackBoot IC/A-OBR

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    DJ-

    There is an old saying that cats don’t have “owners”, they have “staff”

    As the owner hotelier of 4 feline citizens, I can agree 1000% with being their staff.

  34. LC JackBoot IC/A-OBR Comment by LC JackBoot IC/A-OBR

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    Alright, what’s up with the RSS feeds….again?

    :em96:

  35. Unregistered Comment by Mark6591

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    DJ, we have our differences, but politics aside, you are a decent human being. If you love your cat, keep it inside, because it will get run over outside.

    Cheryl, you show real class not bouncing a brick off Allyn’s head.

  36. BauerPower Comment by BauerPower

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    Cat owners don’t have staff, just the owners who are under the mistaken impression that the cats are their pets….

    The cats think we’re the frickin pets. Little furry prima donnas. (I got 2 cats myself, brothers if that’s not bad enough).

    Of course they hiss at Dennis Kucinich on command…He looks like frickin Gollum from LOTR.

  37. BauerPower Comment by BauerPower

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    Allyn, just lemme say I respectfully descent on equating Allah and God, but you’re a heck of lot more patient and tolerant than the Religion of Pissheads….

  38. BauerPower Comment by BauerPower

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    OK, here’s a good question. Who kicks more ass, Jason Bourne or James Bond?

    Remember Matt Damon (duuuuuh) vs. Daniel Craig or Sean Connery. Think hard.

  39. LC Wil Comment by LC Wil

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    Sean Connery. Hands Down.

  40. Merc, Imperial SomethingorOther Comment by Merc, Imperial SomethingorOther

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    OK, here’s a good question. Who kicks more ass, Jason Bourne or James Bond?

    JASON BOURNE is 100X better than bond…. :em58:

    Oh and I’m not a cat fan, I’m allergic. I have a little foofoo dog… :em34:

  41. Blackiswhite, Imperial Agent Provocateur Comment by Blackiswhite, Imperial Agent Provocateur

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    Mr. Clark could take ‘em both without busting a sweat.

  42. JanetMae Comment by JanetMae

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    Oh, what a pretty kitty! Nice, DJ!

    The calico in my avatar is no longer with me, but she was the cutest kitten and sweetest little old lady cat who ever reached 19-1/2 years of age.

  43. Merc, Imperial SomethingorOther Comment by Merc, Imperial SomethingorOther

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    Mr. Clark could take ‘em both without busting a sweat.

    :em38: link
    :em58:

  44. DJ Allyn,  ITW Comment by DJ Allyn, ITW

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    Uh huh. Somehow, Dave, I think that if you ask a Mooselimb about Allah’s son, you’ll get quite the blank stare.

    Sure, if you ask a Muslim. But I think you missed the part where there is no other word for “God” in the Arabic Language. Arab Jews, Christians, AND Muslims refer to “God” as “Allah”.

    Allyn, just lemme say I respectfully descent on equating Allah and God, but you’re a heck of lot more patient and tolerant than the Religion of Pissheads….

    I am not saying that the Christian Allah is equal or the same as the Jewish or Muslim Allah.

    You also have to consider other translations for the word “God”:

    Dio
    Deus
    Бог
    Dios

    Those are just the common languages.

    The thing is, you are getting stuck on word association, and not the reality of the language. The word “Allah” for “God” predates not only Islam, but Christianity and Judism as well.

  45. BauerPower Comment by BauerPower

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    Allyn, your icon is creepin me out. Avatar I mean.

    Sorry, kids, I think 007 beats Bourne’s ass, period!

    And first and best is Sean Connery, Daniel Craig a close second (watch Casino Royale, the new one).

  46. Merc, Imperial SomethingorOther Comment by Merc, Imperial SomethingorOther

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    007 is to busy makin out with hot girls in bikinis to kick any real butt…Bourne is focused and efficient… hes better… :em58:

  47. maxxdog Comment by maxxdog

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    One of them Buddist stickdudes?

  48. lc ima mommy, Imperial Handmaid Comment by lc ima mommy, Imperial Handmaid

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    Hey Vergeltung, you’ve got a set, huh? Misha et al have a life other than this place, and they get to the news that interests them when they GET to it! Sheesh!! Pretty nervy if you ask me…(that’s my 10cents, my 2cents is free.)

  49. Merc, Imperial SomethingorOther Comment by Merc, Imperial SomethingorOther

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    not that the hot girls in bikinis were bad….
    they’re just not relevant to the question
    it was who KICKS more ass, not gets more… :em95:

  50. lc ima mommy, Imperial Handmaid Comment by lc ima mommy, Imperial Handmaid

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    And let me add to that…I love the idea of an open thread once in awhile. If you’re always “on” with all the shite going on in the world you’ll go nuts. It’s nice to talk about cats and dogs and what you’re having for dinner now and then.

    For the record, I have no cats, 2 dogs (an adorable Boxer and a Weimeraner who’s a real biznatch), and I made a new tasty dinner tonight of tortellini, tomatoes from the garden and balsamic vinegar…YUMMY!!

  51. psychochick Comment by psychochick

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    mommy
    I rather lust at the chance to bring up political topics that are not relevant to the current threads. I’ve been meaning to keep a list. Has anyone said a thing about Rove suddenly resigning?

    Speaking of lusting, your dinner sounds really good.

    The journalism thread went way off topic last night, so I got in some weird commentary (the narcotics agent and the Cialis).

    Two dogs! I’ve been limited to one. And cat aquisition has been vetoed. I’m always cruising the shelter site and finding abused and neglected dogs that need homes. There is a subdued Rottweiler that they think was abused that I have my eye on. And then there’s the Doberman rescue farm in Fillmore. But most of their profiles suggest only having one dog. But our Australian kelpie (pound dog) is territorial. God forbid a guest should sit on the couch. It’s amazing how strong 50 pounds of pure muscle can be.

    I am curious if you have the Weimeraner calendars. I forget the name of the photographer. I’m sure you know.

  52. JanetMae Comment by JanetMae

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    Comment by Blackiswhite, Imperial Agent Provocateur:

    Mr. Clark could take ‘em both without busting a sweat.

    I can’t resist responding with one of my favorite cat photos

    [I added the picture here for ya — DJ]

  53. DJ Allyn,  ITW Comment by DJ Allyn, ITW

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    Has anyone said a thing about Rove suddenly resigning?

    Why do you think this was sudden?

    Do you really buy the “spend more time with the family” excuse? I think that excuse is pretty worn out by now.

    Want a prediction based on a sequence of events?

    1. He leaves in September
    2. Fred! “announces” in September
    3. Do you need someone to paint you a picture?
  54. SoCalOilMan, LC Comment by SoCalOilMan, LC

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    Hey Vergeltung, you’ve got a set, huh? Misha et al have a life other than this place, and they get to the news that interests them when they GET to it! Sheesh!! Pretty nervy if you ask me…(that’s my 10cents, my 2cents is free.)

    Newbie….He’s looking for the hard hitting, cut to the quick postings that the site is famous for. We all know the Imperial Palace is moving from excessive to opulent, and that takes time, but he shows up, and we’re all over the place. Football, politics, cats (achoo).

    Holy crap! This is just like 1st grade. The teacher has left the room and we’re shooting spitwads. :em99:

  55. DJ Allyn,  ITW Comment by DJ Allyn, ITW

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    (Update: Click the “Give us more, O Emperor! to see DJ’s other kitty—B.)

    That’s just sad. Is she suffering from leukemia? She should be put down.

  56. LC Wil Comment by LC Wil

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    Holy crap! This is just like 1st grade. The teacher has left the room and we’re shooting spitwads. :em99:

    Thirty kids on a sugar high!

  57. B.C., Imperial Torturer™ Comment by B.C., Imperial Torturer™

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    That’s just sad. Is she suffering from leukemia? She should be put down.

    Nope. Idiots have actually bred cats to look like that.

    It’s what happened when they exposed several generations of breeding cats to psychedelic drugs, Marx, Chompsky, The Swimmer, Puglosi, Murthafucker, Dingy Harry and NPR. If that’s not proof-positive that Librulism is bad for ANY species, I don’t know what is.

  58. psychochick Comment by psychochick

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    DJ
    Why are you being so snarkey?
    –the announcement was sudden; of course it’s been planned for awhile
    –the “spend more time with the family” excuse got a “yeah right” response from both of us
    –I’m not sure what it has to do with Thompson announcing. Maybe you need to paint me a picture, being feeble-minded and all

  59. psychochick Comment by psychochick

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    DJ
    You think he’ll be Thompson’s advisor! very interesting idea, but I don’t if you could guarantee it yet.

  60. LC Wil Comment by LC Wil

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    Dave:

    Want a prediction based on a sequence of events?

    1. He leaves in September
    2. Fred! “announces” in September
    3. Do you need someone to paint you a picture?

    Ya think? Possible I suppose, but I was really thinkin’ Newt.

    Family time - Riiiight. ‘Bout a month. Pull the other one, Karl.

  61. SoCalOilMan, LC Comment by SoCalOilMan, LC

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    Click the “Give us more, O Emperor! to see DJ’s other kitty—B.)

    I don’t know what would have freaked me the most. I just reloaded the page and “it” was there, but the site promised to “Give us more, O Emperor!”. I’ll never learn and figure I can handle pretty much anything that needs to be blow the fold, but I didn’t even get the chance to swallow and set my beverage down and bingo, a picture of a cat we had about five years ago, Not quit as bad looking , but riddled with cancer.

    My wife made me take the SOB in to get put down, “because I didn’t really care about the cat”, she never understood the dynamics between a dog guy and cats.

    I cried (manly) for two days….just not in front of her and we ended up with another cat in about three months.

    Cats will never admit pain, so sometimes when you know it’s close to the end, it is really better to put them down.

  62. kwongdzu Comment by kwongdzu

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    A cat and his boy

  63. sixfootbrit Comment by sixfootbrit

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    Dunno if anyone knows about this, but the BBC has been caught with it’s collective pants down on Wikipedia….here’s the link, some of the comments are hillarious and spot on.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/theeditors/2007/08/wikipedia_edits.html

  64. LC Cheapshot911, Dept. of Redneck Tech Comment by LC Cheapshot911, Dept. of Redneck Tech

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    If you can’t love animals, how can a person trust ya?

    Ah but,, big but.
    There’s also that nasty part, where the pursuit of life-at-any-cost on the animal’s behalf delay’s the owner’s dreaded horror of the animal’s death,, as the animal’s pain multiplies, no chance of relief.

    I couldn’t let an animal go that far.

  65. Unregistered Comment by irish19

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    I have to agree with DJ on the God=Allah thing. It’s just the Arabic word for God. That’s not the problem anyway. Allah’s pedophile prophet and his words are the problem.
    Nice picture, DJ. You do realize she’s not really asleep, but plotting?

  66. Unregistered Comment by irish19

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    Actually that should be Allah’s self-proclaimed pedophile prophet.

  67. kwongdzu Comment by kwongdzu

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  68. kwongdzu Comment by kwongdzu

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    I so suck at this

  69. SoCalOilMan, LC Comment by SoCalOilMan, LC

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    PC and mommy

    In re: to posts #50 & 51, if you want to get guys to talk/discuss something, you have to pick a subject.

    You must have had 5 or 6 topics in that one post of thing to talk about. Guys will skim over it. That’s just the way we are. Two subjects are good, that way we get to focus on the one we think we know something about. We will completely ignore the other topic because it scares us.

    If you miss the first time, pick two more and try again. If that doesn’t work, post something on boobs and farts. If you then get a sudden rush of replies, delete the bookmark.

  70. LC 0311 crunchie Comment by LC 0311 crunchie

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    Boobies! There’s a topic I can sink my teeth into!

  71. SoCalOilMan, LC Comment by SoCalOilMan, LC

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    Jeez Crunch
    I was trying to string them along slowly and you have to jump right out there and ruin the whole deal.

    I will point out ladies, that if you pick economics vs. boobies, your plan will fail (see post 70), guys for some reason :em95: will always pick what you really didn’t want to talk about, so pick wisely.

  72. LC 0311 crunchie Comment by LC 0311 crunchie

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    I was trying to string them along slowly and you have to jump right out there and ruin the whole deal.

    You said BOOBIES! What was I supposed to do. Now, where are the boobies :em95: :em34:

  73. kwongdzu Comment by kwongdzu

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    newmanandthomas.jpg

  74. kwongdzu Comment by kwongdzu

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    ? Did it work?

  75. kwongdzu Comment by kwongdzu

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    Sorry it is so big.

  76. SoCalOilMan, LC Comment by SoCalOilMan, LC

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    Ok Cruch, Just for you.
    Photo Sharing and Video Hosting at Photobucket
    If mgt feels this is a no-no feel free to delete.

    [Management™ likee.  Management™ likee muchee.  Management™ just thinkee picture too small, is all.    -The Management™]

  77. LC Wil Comment by LC Wil

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    Basic Economics: The opportunity cost for talking about the paint in the kitchen, or kittens, or dogs, or funiture, or dinner, is the chance to talk about boobies.

    It’s human nature, Ladies.

  78. maxxdog Comment by maxxdog

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    http://www.denverpost.com/ci_6624865
    I didn’t see if it was paid and laid day off.

  79. maxxdog Comment by maxxdog

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    Hey Deej
    What happened to your post the other day? The one where you were getting your ass handed to ya? :em93:
    :em99:

  80. psychochick Comment by psychochick

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    Would it be terribly inappropriate to ask if anyone knows what a British come-on line means? I’ve been wondering since April. It always seems inappropriate, but with the boobies thread and the presence of a British guy, it doesn’t seem as bad to ask.

  81. LC HJ Caveman82952 Comment by LC HJ Caveman82952

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    I hear ya’ about the furry people, Dave. We got eight of the furry beasties, aged from two to sixteen. One irascible old cat threatened to shitcan me if I didn’t get my act together. We do not have any difficulties with rodents though……

  82. psychochick Comment by psychochick

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    boobies–what about the original cover of “Electric Ladyland?”

  83. Unregistered Comment by seagoon

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    I’ve always been under the impression that a British line (these days) is “hello love, how about a quick shag?”

    But I could be mistaken, what with all the colonial brits out here…

  84. psychochick Comment by psychochick

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    seagoonBrit
    “How much to fob me off?” sounds totally obscene. can’t figure out exactly what it means, although I have a couple ideas. vague reference would do.

    (This was at the Coachella Music Festival–we asked another British guy the next day, and he didn’t know.)

  85. psychochick Comment by psychochick

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    sorry about the bolding! please forgive me.

  86. LC 0311 crunchie Comment by LC 0311 crunchie

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    SoCal #76 Thanks Man!

  87. Merc, Imperial SomethingorOther Comment by Merc, Imperial SomethingorOther

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    psychochick:
    Sounds to me like they think you’re a prostitute…. But then again, ive never been to england… :em41:

  88. maxxdog Comment by maxxdog

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    seagoonBrit
    “How much to fob me off?” sounds totally obscene. can’t figure out exactly what it means, although I have a couple ideas. vague reference would do

    I don’t know either but it doesn’t sound bad. Well, maybe a little. :em99:

  89. Unregistered Comment by seagoon

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    PC- to ‘fob off’ in my understanding means to pass off, usually in a negative context.
    link

    but you never know with Brit slang. I’ve got the passport, but I’m long time non-resident…

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    I think I need my fob polishing…. (totally innocuous, that statement ;))

  91. LC HJ Caveman82952 Comment by LC HJ Caveman82952

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    Sounds like a blowjob……

  92. Merc, Imperial SomethingorOther Comment by Merc, Imperial SomethingorOther

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    PC
    I looked it up on urban dictionary and it says:

    1. fob off

    To dismiss (lie about) an underlying issue with something easier to explain.

    go figure…

  93. LC Cheapshot911, Dept. of Redneck Tech Comment by LC Cheapshot911, Dept. of Redneck Tech

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    “fob off”,,
    I hear that sometimes from some of the pastier looking tourists over in mall world,, ‘cept there’s usually “wanker” in the phrase too..

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    Carrier term?
    freight on board ?

  95. Merc, Imperial SomethingorOther Comment by Merc, Imperial SomethingorOther

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    I also saw a lot of “Fresh off the Boat” and variations there of…

  96. psychochick Comment by psychochick

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    Hmmm. “Fob off” would make sense with “wanker.” Caveman’s is one of the things I was thinking of. (8 cats!)

    I wonder if being heavy would help or hurt the prostitute idea. I dress in t-shirts and normal pants–nothing revealing. No makeup. no fingernail polish back then.

    I think he was just joking, but I’ve been curious about the exact meaning ever since.

  97. Sir Christopher Comment by Sir Christopher

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    you went to Coachella, Psychochick?

    Did you see Project Runway finalist Santino there? He rules.

  98. DJ Allyn,  ITW Comment by DJ Allyn, ITW

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    Why are you being so snarkey?

    Because I feel snarky at the moment?

    –the announcement was sudden; of course it’s been planned for awhile

    There was nothing sudden about this. They’ve been telgraphing this move for quite some time.

    –the “spend more time with the family” excuse got a “yeah right” response from both of us

    I don’t usually quote Paul Weyrich on anything, but he had this to say about the Same old Excuse:

    But most politicians are as dishonest in their departure from politics as they were in practicing it. The vast majority of political figures who look at the polls and find themselves on the losing end, or who know they are facing the possibility of indictment or even the taint of scandal, hold press conferences at which they piously declare, “I am leaving office to spend more time with my family.” Really? Some newspaper ought to do a survey a year after such announcements and find out how many of these characters are spending time with their families.

    There are rumors that Cheney wanted to see him go — quite possibly over the Scooter Libby thing, and they needed to let some time pass for the appearance that the departure wasn’t related to the incident itself.

    I think that might be part of the reason, but I also think that Rove is leaving a sinking ship for a ship that is getting ready to sail.

    –I’m not sure what it has to do with Thompson announcing. Maybe you need to paint me a picture, being feeble-minded and all

    Have you ever asked yourself what it is that Karl Rove does in the White House? We all know the official title, but what is it exactly that he does?

    Rove is a stategist, and it is his “job” to get Republicans elected. Not just any Republicans, but a certain brand of Republican.

    He has had his eye on 2008 probably since 2004 and knows that the current crop of declared Republican candidates have less of a chance of being elected president than a Muslim ordering the Moons over My Hammy breakfast at Denny’s.

    The only shot — and a long shot at that — is the one undeclared candidate that is somewhat Reaganesque.

    Fred!

    Karl works well with dummies, and according to Nixon, Fred is just one of those dummies:

    Moreover, new transcripts from the Nixon White House tapes reveal that the Nixon administration regarded Thompson as a useful idiot — “dumb as hell,” in President Nixon’s words, but “friendly.”

    By the time Karl is done with Fred!, there will be nobody who will equate Fred as Nixon’s spy or useful idiot, even though the reality is that he was just that.

  99. Sir Christopher Comment by Sir Christopher

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    speaking of prostitution, look at this whoring anti iraq effort headline at CNN’s website i saw today:

    Iraqi women sell their bodies to buy food for kids

    1) do they have statistics on how many women had to do so under Saddam?
    2) Can you imagine the BDS infection such a reporter (or Dreck Wizard) must have to seek this prism to view our efforts through?

    G#D if you fucks were as fastidious about your hatred of our Nation’s real enemies as you are W we could really save money and blood

  100. Sir Christopher Comment by Sir Christopher

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    you just can’t help bring up Nixon every couple days or so, can you Polesmoker?

  101. DJ Allyn,  ITW Comment by DJ Allyn, ITW

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    Electric Ladyland?

    I preferred Electric Larryland:

  102. DJ Allyn,  ITW Comment by DJ Allyn, ITW

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    you just can’t help bring up Nixon every couple days or so,…

    Let’s see, I will bet you that I probably have mentioned Nixon maybe ten times in the past six months — an insignificant fraction of the number of times you’ve dredged up Clinton’s name.

    can you Polesmoker?

    That sounds a little like projection to me.

    But seriously, I only brought up Nixon because Fred! is basing a HUGE portion of his campaign on being the “tough” minority prosecutor that asked the “tough” questions in the Watergate hearings.

    Except that reality is something different than the fantasy Fred! and his supporters are trying to spread.

    Now before you get your cackles in a kink, I personally don’t think that ANY of the known candidates of either side (declared or otherwise) are presidential material.

    On a related note, I ran across this the other day from the Political Compass:

    Now I know that this isn’t a totally accurate portrayal, but it is inteesting.

    Oh and Christopher? Let’s at least agree not to be calling each other names, shall we? You have to admit that I try to treat people here with respect most of the time — unless I have been provoked.

  103. psychochick Comment by psychochick

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    Christopher
    No–missed that band. There were so many. Plus, I don’t do well with heat in general and had a roasting thyroid condition back then. Spent the afternoons in the AT&T Cool Room. Laptops with black keyboards in a dark room with horrible night vision–I don’t think so.

    I don’t think it’s evil to portray negative news from Iraq. I think it’s good to know the whole picture, and the MSM papers I read do have positive pieces about the war. I would much rather see the pictures of soldiers with happy children, but I don’t think it’s an indication that you loathe Bush to show a negative piece. Honestly, I find that view kind of bizarre–not everything revolves around Bush. As for BDS, I can’t tell you how much I have loathed him from the beginning, but I would like us to win the war.

    DJ
    really enjoyed both links. It’s amazing how many people didn’t get the E. Ladyland reference. We saw the Butthole Surfers around 1990–they had a variety of projections as they played. It’s the only t-shirt that I can almost never wear. It’s a muscular woman with three eyes and says “Bondage” above it.

    I’m glad my candidates skewed down from authoritarian. There is one thing you can definitively say about me: not authoritarian! (politically–around the house is a different matter!)

  104. Robohobo Comment by Robohobo

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    Open thread? Can anyone guess the name of the tune?

    Well take me to my car now
    But the car won’t go
    Try to get next to you baby
    Ain’t got no place to go

    Taste better than a t-bone steak
    Excitement on the side
    If we don’t find some place to get off
    Gonna lose it on the ride

    Well you and me baby, go hand in hand
    Like a bowlegged woman, and a knock-kneed man

  105. psychochick Comment by psychochick

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    CAT PEOPLE
    http://www.latimes.com/features/health/la-na-cats16aug16,1,5833961.story

    This is an LAT article about potentially fatal hyperthyroidism in cats linked to flame retardent chemicals (changing foods can reduce the risk). It’s supposed to be more of a problem in Cal. And it’s a potential human problem also.

    When asked if I was authoritarian around the house, the individual took the 5th!

    There was a disturbing article about teenagers shooting and stabbing horses, cows, and goats. It’s hard to find the culprits, and apparently since it takes methodical planning, these kids are considered to be even more of a potential danger to humans than those that kill the smaller animals.

  106. Tsubaki Shijuro Comment by Tsubaki Shijuro

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    >OK, here’s a good question. Who kicks more ass, Jason Bourne or James Bond?

    Jason Bourne in the movie versions.
    James Bond in the book versions. (Nothing at all like the completely wussified versions we see on screen.)

    However, Derek Flint beats them all!

  107. DJ Allyn,  ITW Comment by DJ Allyn, ITW

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    Robohobo @ 104

    Bowlegged Woman
    by Widespread Panic

    (I was in radio for 18 years, then a sound engineer for a couple of well known bands for another six before I became a producer.)

  108. Tsubaki Shijuro Comment by Tsubaki Shijuro

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    >It’s nice to talk about cats and dogs and what you’re having for dinner now and then.

    Hahaha! Was that combination (cats/dogs and “what you’re having for dinner”) intentional?

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    Tsubaki- Funny, the combo comes up more often than you might expect round these parts! :)

    (dog. it’s what’s for dinner)

  110. psychochick Comment by psychochick

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    seagoon
    First you don’t like Macs, then this. I ask you this out of curiousity mixed with great revulsion. Do you know what they taste like?

    As far as my personal preferences go, I would put eating dog just slightly below cannibalism. (Yes, I have sworn off swine.)

  111. psychochick Comment by psychochick

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    DJ
    spouse used to be in radio at a small station in a dying industrial town. I got the impression that it sucked to be in commercial radio–that it was constrictive, and the pay was really low unless you were famous. Does that match with your experience? Although if you lasted 18 years, you must have liked it.

  112. Unregistered Comment by seagoon

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    Oh yes-(I thought we’d been through this before on another thread).

    Dog is quite fatty, with a slight gamy flavor- it’s mild, but obvious that they are omnivorous. Slightly reminiscent of bear, and best made into soup or served cold pickled in the Korean style.

    On the whole, the only food I really miss from the Dongbei exotic meats is dog- the locusts, silkworms and donkey were not so hot, though donkey dumplings aren’t bad, if you don’t mind eating someone’s ass.

    FYI, dogs in the north are just another farmed animal, not a pet. We aren’t talking ‘here fido, good boy, bang!’

    (but you’re turning green anyway)

  113. Unregistered Comment by seagoon

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    yes yes I know, worship dog, sleep with them on your bed-

    still doesn’t mean they aren’t tasty.

    I’m a cat and reptile guy, but I’ll still eat either - tho I haven’t found a dragon and tiger (cat and snake) restaurant yet

  114. psychochick Comment by psychochick

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    seagoon
    “(but you’re turning green anyway)”
    –actually, I’m pretty good at intellectualizing things

    The topic of dog as dinner had come up before, but we had never crossed the line of demarcation. You had talked about the idea of d as d. I had ranted for awhile. You said “What about pigs–they are intelligent?” I said that I had hesitated to say it, but eating pigs really bothered me, and I had sworn off all mammals. However, we had not discussed whether you had eaten dogs. Now I have some idea what they taste like.

    What do you mean bear? It’s like you live in some strange exotic country or something.

  115. Unregistered Comment by seagoon

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    an interesting take on it

  116. Unregistered Comment by seagoon

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    I’m Canadian. Bear was unusual but not unheard of.

    Weirdness happened on the link, I try again link.

    D as d? Dog as dinner? Why not? Meat is meat, if you eat meat, why draw silly lines based on cute factors?

    reminds me of an interview with an Amazonian ex-headhunter (anth film).

    Standing in the jungle, resplendent in stretched facial piercings, tattoos and his best tighty-whities, he was being told about war.

    He had gone to war, taken a few heads, and he couldn’t understand how we could kill total strangers. In his world, if you kill, you kill someone you know for a reason that is personal. Then you take their head and keep it as a trophy. Memory fails about cannibalism, but I think they were ritual endocannibals like the Yanomami- they ate their own family members postmortem, to keep them in the tribe. (ritualized. Cremated to ash and mixed with banana pap before consumption)

  117. Unregistered Comment by seagoon

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    why are my comments being eaten?

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    I’m Canadian. Bear was unusual but not unheard of.

    Weirdness happened on the link, I try again [link redacted to avoid spam filter]

    D as d? Dog as dinner? Why not? Meat is meat, if you eat meat, why draw silly lines based on cute factors?

    reminds me of an interview with an Amazonian ex-headhunter (anth film).

    Standing in the jungle, resplendent in stretched facial piercings, tattoos and his best tighty-whities, he was being told about war.

    He had gone to war, taken a few heads, and he couldn’t understand how we could kill total strangers. In his world, if you kill, you kill someone you know for a reason that is personal. Then you take their head and keep it as a trophy. Memory fails about cannibalism, but I think they were ritual endocannibals like the Yanomami- they ate their own family members postmortem, to keep them in the tribe. (ritualized. Cremated to ash and mixed with banana pap before consumption)

  119. kwongdzu Comment by kwongdzu

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    spouse used to be in radio at a small station in a dying industrial town. I got the impression that it sucked to be in commercial radio

    My husband used to be an engineer at a small station (then later worked for other stations as well before moving on to other endeavors). He did everything from installing a satellite dish, to maintaining the transmitters and station equipment, to putting up Christmas lights. I remember one time he had to go do some work on a transmitter at Deer Point, up on a mountain near Bogus Basin ski resort. We took the ski lift up (us and a big heavy toolbox), then trudged up the rest of the way on foot through deep snow.

    When we got to the building which housed several transmitters for different stations, there were mice everywhere. They were running straight up the cinder block walls. He took the transmitter off the air (I think they switched to a lower power backup transmitter), cleaned some dust out of it, then powered it back up to run some tests. There was a loud bang. He thought maybe a tube had exploded. When he opened the door on the back of the transmitter, there was mouse fuzz floating everywhere. The unfortunate mouse lay dessicated on the floor. I can’t remember the wattage of that transmitter, but obviously it was more than sufficient to create mouse jerky!

    While he finished up his work, I visited with the maintenance engineer who stayed up there full time. I watched an old King Kong movie and drank cocoa. Picture was lousy because of all the interference, in spite of an attempt at using tin foil to shield it.

    We took the lift back down. Skiiers razzed us until my husband pointed to his toolbox and told them that one of the chairs on the lift was loose and he was trying to figure out which one so he could fix it.

  120. kwongdzu Comment by kwongdzu

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    PC: My mom has a bear skin rug (a black bear). I guess my dad shot it once upon a time, and they ate it. According to their account, it was stringy and greasy. I don’t know about the flavor.

  121. Puddle Pirate Comment by Puddle Pirate

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    >OK, here’s a good question. Who kicks more ass, Jason Bourne or James Bond?

    Chuck Norris wins hands down.

    Chuck Norris is the reason why Waldo is hiding.
    There is no theory of evolution, only a list of animals that Chuck Norris allows to live.
    Chuck Norris does not read books. He stares them down until they give him the information that he wants.
    When the boogeyman goes to bed at night, he checks the closet for Chuck Norris.

    Anybody got any other good ones?

  122. Unregistered Comment by seagoon

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    OK, here’s a good question. Who kicks more ass, Jason Bourne or James Bond?

    William Shatner.

    He’s kicked the ass of nazi’s, cavemen, stone eating hortas, Greek gods and he shot the Gorn with a cannon made of bamboo, diamond and homemade gunpowder.

    He ‘negotiations’ lead more often than not to glowing radioactive balls in space and mass extinctions.

    His shirt gets torn, his flesh does not, and he’s ‘welcomed’ more species into the Federation than Ron Jeremy’s ‘instructed’ actresses.

    His toupee defies physical law, his spoken dialogue defies description, and his singing is best described as a cross between beat poetry and unanesthetized hemorrhoid surgery.

    Shatner can kick your ass in LP, MP3, and CD.

    Listen and weep.

  123. psychochick Comment by psychochick

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    kwongdzu
    “Skiiers razzed us until my husband pointed to his toolbox and told them that one of the chairs on the lift was loose and he was trying to figure out which one so he could fix it.”
    -that’s so hilarious
    -poor mouse. I’ve always liked them (properly caged). They are one of two reasons why I will never have a snake: 1) I like mice and rats 2) my friend across the street has a pathological fear of snakes and would never enter my house. On a personal level, that would be ashame, and on a practical matter, she waters the plants when we go away. (I walk her daughter’s golden retriever almost every day. If I don’t come for a few days, the dog lies there and stares at the door.)
    Some people buy rabbits to feed their large snakes. A friend of a friend was shopping, and they were out of normal rabbits. He bought one of the fancy floppy-eared ones, and the salesperson kept insisting whether the guy knew how to take care of it. Some guy in Phoenix just got 90 days in jail for feeding a puppy to his boa.
    I’m just so much fun, aren’t I?
    EG Also is not EG Too. There’s another Gorey book out there I don’t know about! I also have the little book on the Gilded Bat dancer (somewhere!).
    You must work hard to segregate the cats from the rest. It seems like the cats would be anxious to enter the forbidden zone. If you haven’t, you should go read that piece on cats.

    Seagoon
    I only eat fish and crustaceans. I can make delineations between types of meat! I also get invited to dinner a lot less since I dropped meat. It’s not like I’m veggie. Stir fry some shrimp!

    Only killing people with a personal grudge sounds eminently sensible to me. I think I should be allowed to do that, but I doubt the legal system would go along with me. But I’m special! (Yeah I know–goddamn liberal sense of entitlement.)

    I like the shrunken head idea. I’m pretty sure Ed Gein had some in his farmhouse that mysteriously burned down. Strangely enough the fire chief was someone who’s mother had been murdered by Gein, so he took his time getting to the fire. I had an old boss from Wisconsin who had seen the foundation.

    Now, I am highly curious if eating cremated remains vs whole brains can give you kuru–that prion disease that causes dementia (like Creutzfeldt-Jakob disease and mad cow disease). The tribe that ate the brains of the dead had those issues. It seems like fire would inactivate proteins, but we boil them all the time, so maybe not. It’s so weird for an infectious agent to not have any nucleic acids and just have protein. It must activate something major. I should read up and see if you get the tangled plaques in the brain that you get with Alzheimer’s disease.

    Well, that’s a cheery thread! I’m enjoying it.

  124. LC Scott Comment by LC Scott

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    Puddle Pirate

    My personal favorite.

    Chuck Norris gave Mona Lisa that smile.

  125. Unregistered Comment by seagoon

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    No kuru- well toasted remains. Kuru is endemic among a different tribe, and only among the elder women who had to ritually eat the brains.

    MMmmmm prions. Was a sausage eating youth in britain during the danger years for YKD (always referred to is as Yakov Kreutzfeld Disease, not sure which is correct), so I often wonder if I’ll wake up a drooling imbecile, or possibly a scientologist due to prions.

    Oliver Saks goes into it beautifully in Island of the Colorblind.

    I used to feed teddybear hamsters to my caiman. Fun.

    shrimp are hardly red meat. unsatisfying at best.

    food is food. live with it, or die without. Most culinary prejudice stops in the face of starvation, and over specialization is just a sign of long-term cultural affluence.

    If people had HAD to eat dog for millennia, like the Chinese, they will of course assimilate it into the cuisine as normative. Look at the other things they have accepted as ‘delicacies’: chicken feet, silkworm larvae, shark fin, sea cucumber, and bird puke.

    Hunger is the best sauce

  126. Unregistered Comment by seagoon

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    Sorry, to phrase it into current academic anthro-speech, your attitude toward eating dog is an ethnocentric prejudice stemming from a deep-rooted sense of cultural superiority cultivated by your position as a member of a post-industrial privileged group who views the world through the lens of unconscious post-colonial superiority.

    A truly liberal mind would accept that it is a non-absolute morality regarding diet, and that your perspective is no more valid than any other’s.

    Or, to quote Monty Python’s the Holy Grail, “Help! Help! I’m being oppressed!”

    :)

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    Anybody got any other good ones?

    World of Warcraft: Barrens Chat.

    you will get all the chuck norris you never wanted to hear.

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    seagoon
    It is possible (of course highly unlikely!) that I am wrong, but I am pretty sure that the prion diseases kick in fairly quickly after infection. I don’t think it would hover around for decades.

    I lent away my copy of “The Man who Mistook his Wife for a Hat” over 10 years ago and really want to read it again. (Oliver Saks)

    Shrimp are fine. I’m diabetic. 75% of us die from heart attacks. Limiting red meat lowers your heart attack risk by 50% if you are diabetic. Of course, people are forced to eat unusual things in the face of starvation. I have eaten cricket cookies and do not have a problem with the idea of eating insects. A lot of the world do. I would love to try sea cucumber (pass on the bird puke). I’m pretty live and let live with whatever people want to eat or not eat. On this thread, I did not say it was evil to eat dogs. However, I believe that you said I couldn’t really complain about eating one form of meat when I ate another. That’s why I pointed out that I do not eat meat. I’m pretty discreet about it. I do have the right to grumble about eating dogs. And I’m just grumbling. I’m not running out and attacking the Chinese embassy (see where that got Jack Bauer?). I’m not criticising that you have eaten them. I just wanted to know what they tasted like. When in Rome…

    But the other important question: Have you had pufferfish? Oh wait–that’s Japanese, not Chinese–right?

  129. Unregistered Comment by seagoon

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    You misunderstand me, PC- the old women are the ritual eaters of brains. They get infected quickly, but aren’t allowed to perform the ritual (growing out the fingernail for brain scraping etc) until they are old.

    As for residuality, what about the prionic connection to Alzheimer’s postulated by Saks?

    I’m not up to date, just curious if you know. Seem to recall that prions by themselves are often innocuous until triggered by an external factor.

    You have called eating dog blasphemous, or something similar, in our previous discussion :) - but I bear you no ill will about any of this. Food is a personal choice, and I respect all people’s choices in the matter, so long as they stay away from preaching at me.

    I dislike all proselytizing, be it religious, dietary, behavioral or other.

    Sea cucumber basically tastes like soft squid, but it’s shaped like a dildo. Seriously, knobs and all. Never had bird’s nest, because overpriced bird puke isn’t worth my cash- but if someone else was paying, why not?

    never had fugu because I’ve never had a sushi chef I trusted enough to feed it to me, tho when our tokyo office opens I’m all in.

    I don’t recommend deep fried caterpillars, unless you really like chitin.

    Dog’s not bad tho, and not as red as some meats- more porky in nature. Besides, I drink my red wine regularly, stay in shape-ish, and don’t care if I die younger because I enjoyed life.

    If my quality of life slips too far I will happily exit it voluntarily, knowing I lived life well.
    There’s only so much I’ll exchange for longevity

  130. psychochick Comment by psychochick

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    Seagoon!
    Actually, I agree with both paragraphs.

    In discussing this issue previously, I did agree that logically you couldn’t discriminate between different meat sources.

    This thread is called “The love of my life.” That’s how I feel about my dog. It’s an emotional thing. Considering how much I adore dogs, I am just grumbling about eating them. I’m showing great restraint to try and not be judgemental about another culture. I think I’m doing quite well. How many hard-core dog lovers would even discuss the idea of eating dogs and not castigate you for having eaten them? Why are you giving me such a hard time now, when I am being more restrained? It looks like you are enjoying yourself, and it’s evident that you write professionally.

  131. Unregistered Comment by seagoon

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    and apparently prions can lie dormant for decades. Won’t put in link because that gets it eaten by the spam checker.

    just google prion latency

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    PC, forgive me if I seem like I’m giving you a hard time, it’s a hold over from my days in school where I spent most of my Anth degree poking holes in other peoples’ (hypocritical) sacred cows.

    As I said, I’m not trying to be malicious- I’m just having fun. The fact that it’s 45 min from quitting time on a Friday may have sharpened my tongue somewhat, and for that I apologize.

    If you want to see real venom, let’s talk about male vs female circumcision and parent’s rights over their children’s bodies…. I’m a little out of practice but I still have 4 years of research in on the topic.

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    seagoon
    sorry–caught your previous post that appeared as I was writing. I really do try not to be judgemental about what other people eat or do, as long as it doesn’t involve poor treatment of other people or animals. I don’t begrudge anyone their meat. My husband made sausage tonight–I practically lunged at him. But I’m happier not eating animals. Fish I don’t mind.

    Not drinking wine is a risk factor for Alzheimers. And red wine is full of compounds that protect your heart. Boy, I’m going to talk myself into drinking some wine.

    I wasn’t familiar with a prionic connection to Alzheimer’s, but I’m out of date and should be shot. I did read up on it a little between posts. All of the external prions that are transmitted are infectious. But we have really similar proteins in our brains (not sure of rest of body). The infectious prions have an abnormal structure, and they bind our natural prion proteins and cause them to become abnormal. It must have some sort of chain reaction. I think the infection progresses pretty quickly. That’s something else I should read up on.

    Boy, I bet you’re a blast in person. We really should do the Tahiti thing sometime. I hope I’m not on a no-fly list. Between opposition to the Bush administration and cruising extremist web sites (no Islamic ones), it worries me a tiny bit. If you looked at my web usage, I’m a right-wing, fringe Christian (Army of God) Communist Nazi. The one Klan site definitively said they were considered a terrorist group, which is a good thing, I think. This N Carolina group was selling drugs and bombing things.

  134. psychochick Comment by psychochick

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    Seagoon
    You have been anything but malicious. You just were way more hard-driving than normal, and strangely at the time I was being less judgemental.

    The prion latency thing sucks. That would make me wonder about an Alzheimer’s connection. Keep drinking that wine! I have a greatly increased risk factor for several reasons. I’m hoping that active use of mind might help protect me, since I’m rabidly curious.

    What an awful area to do research in! Do you have a thesis/dissertation or anything published? I could request IL loan if you do.

    Have a good weekend. It’s 2:30 AM here. I don’t know the time difference with China. I guess it would have a bunch of time zones, since it’s so large.

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    I’m flying into NYC after half a decade in commieland. I’m a little concerned myself.

    I collect wine, because it’s healthy (yeah, right..) have about 100 bottles cellared up.

    It makes me happy. Cats, igs, and vino…. contentment.

  136. Unregistered Comment by seagoon

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    China has one time zone, because mao had limited grasp of the realities of global geography.

    Seriously, it sucks.

    sent you an email. can discuss details there.

    almost 6pm. poker night, beer waiting…. the validation of my week’s work awaits!

  137. Unregistered Comment by seagoon

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    quitting time! later all

  138. lc ima mommy, Imperial Handmaid Comment by lc ima mommy, Imperial Handmaid

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    HAPPY FRIDAY!!! :em94:

  139. LC Wil Comment by LC Wil

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    lc ima mommy:

    Happy Friday!

    What say, since everything is going so well, just to show our appreciation, we all take the next couple of days off, and just take it easy?

  140. BauerPower Comment by BauerPower

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    TGIF, Hey Allyn, here are my cats….

    Timmy and Duke

    Who the hell woke me up?

  141. LC&IB Vulcanrider Comment by LC&IB Vulcanrider

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    More Chuck Norris:

    When an episode of Walker Texas Ranger was aired in France, the French surrendered to Chuck Norris just to be on the safe side.

    and

    Chuck Norris invented black. In fact, he invented the entire spectrum of visible light. Except pink. Tom Cruise invented pink.

    and one more:

    There is no such thing as global warming. Chuck Norris was cold, so he turned the sun up.

  142. Sir Guido Cabrone, LC, M.o.P. Comment by Sir Guido Cabrone, LC, M.o.P.

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    One of my five is my avatar.

    His name is Dustmopp, aka
    Dusty/Dustbunny/Bearcat/Dogcat (he drools when you pet him, just like a big sloppy dog)

    I’ll have to do some uploading to get the pics of the rest of Entropy in Action out where they can be shown…

  143. Sir Christopher Comment by Sir Christopher

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    Mayor Won’t Use Pistol to Start Race

    CINCINNATI (AP) — Mayor Mark Mallory is refusing to fire a starter pistol to kick off an upcoming road race, saying he doesn’t like the gun’s symbolism

  144. DJ Allyn,  ITW Comment by DJ Allyn, ITW

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    DJ
    spouse used to be in radio at a small station in a dying industrial town. I got the impression that it sucked to be in commercial radio–that it was constrictive, and the pay was really low unless you were famous. Does that match with your experience? Although if you lasted 18 years, you must have liked it.

    It all depended on the market. I worked in some good markets and some very bad markets. The pay depended on the market.

    Pure fluke, I started in the Seattle market, and ended in the Seattle market. In between, I’ve worked in New York and LA, but I also worked in some below bottom markets like in Tennesee and Wyoming.

    Pay for a disc jockey was never really all that much. I usually worked as an engineer when I wasn’t on the air, so I would make more than the average DJ.

    The perks (again, depending on the market) made up for the low pay. I met a lot of very famous bands and personalities, and by the time I left radio in 1985 I was able to network myself into a really awesome gig as a sound engineer for Kaye Smith Studios where I hooked up with xxxxxx and later xxxxx. In 1990 I hooked up with xxxxxx and toured with them for four years before the drugs finally wiped me out.

  145. Tsubaki Shijuro Comment by Tsubaki Shijuro

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    >never had fugu

    I have, a number of times. It’s okay, but nothing to get excited about. I’ll take a big serving of octopus instead.

    Mmmmmm…tentacles!

    As long as we're talking about things we have a strong attachment to, here's mine.

    “As long as we’re talking about things we have a strong attachment to, here’s mine.”

  146. WayneB Comment by WayneB

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    CINCINNATI (AP) — Mayor Mark Mallory is refusing to fire a starter pistol to kick off an upcoming road race, saying he doesn’t like the gun’s symbolism

    That’s the same worthless d!ckhead who insisted he had to have a bodyguard (A Cincinnati City Police Officer) follow him around all the time.

  147. HarleyRace (ultra leftist colostomy bag!!!) Comment by HarleyRace (ultra leftist colostomy bag!!!)

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    FASCISM WINS AGAIN!!!!!

    ANOTHER DAY, ANOTHER RAILROADED BROWN VICTIM IN THE FASCIST STATES OF AMERIKKKA! :em95: :em71: :em72: :em98:

    UNITED STATES OF AMERICA 1776-2000 :cry: :cry:

  148. LC Wil Comment by LC Wil

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    Maybe, if America is lucky, you and Padilla can share a cell, dombass. Then, the two of you could take turns playing at being a “man”.

    Now, go play on the railroad tracks.

  149. DJ Allyn,  ITW Comment by DJ Allyn, ITW

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    he doesn’t like the gun’s symbolism

    and what “symbolism” is that? It’s a fucking tool which its only function is to make a loud noise.

    I don’t care for guns myself, so I don’t own one. I don’t own tennis racket for exactly the same reason. Or a basket ball, a satellite dish, an Easy Bake Oven, or a whole lot of other things. Does that mean that I worry about someone else owning these things or *gasp* using these things?

    Of course not. Just because I don’t have an interest in something doesn’t mean I should deprive someone else of their interest.

    I don’t dislike guns, I just don’t have an interest in them. There is a huge difference and the distinction is lost on many people.

    Guns are lethal. What a shock.

    So are hammers, knives, rocks, baseball bats, shovels, cars, trucks, and just about any object you can think of. I could probably kill you with a bannana if I was so motivated. ( I could make you want to kill yourself by locking you in a room and continually playing Donny Osmond singing “Down by the Lazy River” at 100 decibels)

    Instead of going after the objects themselves, go after the people who would use them to kill other people.

    Sure, you could ban guns. Take them completely out of existence. Then what? Is that going to magically stop people from killing other people?

  150. LC Wil Comment by LC Wil

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    Dave:

    If, mayhaps, you are ever in the Northern Virginia / DC area, let me know. I got a couple you may actually enjoy.

    I shoot for the same reason some people play golf. The zen of the proper mindset can be addictive.

    ( I could make you want to kill yourself by locking you in a room and continually playing Donny Osmond singing “Down by the Lazy River” at 100 decibels)

    I seem to recall a provision in the Constitution prohibiting Cruel and Unusual Punishment. I think that would also be prohibited under the Geneva Conventions . .

  151. DJ Allyn,  ITW Comment by DJ Allyn, ITW

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    I seem to recall a provision in the Constitution prohibiting Cruel and Unusual Punishment. I think that would also be prohibited under the Geneva Conventions . .

    The Eighth Amendment only pertains to punishment meted out by the government under the color of law. It doesn’t prohibit me from being cruel or unusual in if I chose to “punish” you for something. There are statutory laws that might prevent me from being too cruel, or too unusual, but frankly, if I am trying to kill you, I am probably not giving a fuck about the law.

    The Constitution is a pact between We the People and our government.

  152. LC Mrs. M-ITT™ Comment by LC Mrs. M-ITT™

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    Well since everyone is posting pics of their owners I guess I will to. That is if the links will work…

    Nikki

    Cats

  153. B.C., Imperial Torturer™ Comment by B.C., Imperial Torturer™

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    I could make you want to kill yourself by locking you in a room and continually playing Donny Osmond singing “Down by the Lazy River” at 100 decibels

    That’s child’s play, Dave. Throw in some Yoko Ono & Roseanne Barr doing grunting out (c)rap-style Gregorian chants, while mutually masturbating each other with genetically-modified, steroid-enhanced pickled herrings, and you’ve got a case for a contemporary Nuremburg trial.

  154. LC Mrs. M-ITT™ Comment by LC Mrs. M-ITT™

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    More Chuck Norris

    OH YEAH!

    Chuck

    HAChaCha!!!

  155. WayneB Comment by WayneB

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    OK, we knew that reporting was getting pretty bad, but this list is a little more impressive than I would have expected.

    It’s not completely limited to “journalists”, but that’s most of it. It also has some Academicians and Politicians.

  156. Tsubaki Shijuro Comment by Tsubaki Shijuro

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    >he doesn’t like the gun’s symbolism

    In other words, he doesn’t like the ability of the individual to protect himself, those he cares about, or his property.

    Makes sense…if you’re a totalitarian thug.

  157. maxxdog Comment by maxxdog

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    Who’s toughest?
    Might be Gen Petraeus.
    I hear Chuck Norris cleans his hummer
    http://www.blackfive.net/main/

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    A hummer from Chuck Norris?

    Not my cup of tea….

  159. DJ Allyn,  ITW Comment by DJ Allyn, ITW

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    OK, we knew that reporting was getting pretty bad, but this list is a little more impressive than I would have expected.

    It’s not completely limited to “journalists”, but that’s most of it. It also has some Academicians and Politicians.

    I notice there is nothing in that “list” that talks about FOX having a First Amendment to lie when it reports the news.

    Well, apparently, in 2003 they argued just that in a case brought by two former reporters who refused to lie about BHT in our milk supply. FOX fired them and they filed suit under the whistle-blower laws.

    They won their case, but FOX appealed and the case was overturned because they successfully argued that they had a right to lie and distort the news.

    I know that most of you are vehemently against regulations of any kind, but this is a case where the Reagan deregulations of the 1980s caused most of the problems you are complaining about today.

    Prior to the FCC deregulation by Reagan, broadcasters used competition to accurately report the news. Inaccuracy could lose viewership, while deliberate distortion could cause the broadcaster to lose their license.

    You have to understand that the airwaves do not belong to the broadcasters. They are owned by We, The People.

    Do any of you remember prior to the deregulation, when a radio or television station’s license was up for renewal, they would broadcast this fact and there would be public hearings to discuss whether or not that station should be renewed? One of the grounds for not being renewed was whether the station misled or distorted the news that they were required to provide a minimum of sixty minutes per day.

    That doesn’t happen any more. There hasn’t been a public hearing to discuss licensing since 1986. There are no consequences for lying or misleading.

    Now before you start yelling at me about the Fairness Doctrine, let me tell you that I am NOT advocating the return of the Fairness Doctrine. In fact, not one of the hosts on my network are wanting to see a return of the Fairness Doctrine — as it applies to a single station in a market.

    But we are looking for a Fairness Doctrine within a market itself. People should have a choice of what to listen to, and not have it be decided by five major broadcast conglomerates. (but that is a whole different rant)

    Getting back to the topic of reporting the NEWS and nothing but the vetted, fact-checked news, the simplest way of getting accuracy back to the news reporting is to get back to regulating the airwaves.

    There is only one industry mentioned in the US Constitution and that was the media. It was mentioned by the founding fathers because they felt that an independent press (or media) was important to a honest and transparent government. Lately it is all but that.

    Anyways, the plane is here and I got to fly back to Everett.

  160. B.C., Imperial Torturer™ Comment by B.C., Imperial Torturer™

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    Prior to the FCC deregulation by Reagan, broadcasters used competition to accurately report the news. Inaccuracy could lose viewership, while deliberate distortion could cause the broadcaster to lose their license.

    :em99:

    Uh-huh. And pigs dressed up as ballerinas and routinely entertained audiences at the Boston Pops.

    So, CNNABCNBCMSNBCNPRCBS™ would have had their collective collectivist licenses revoked years ago, under your Idiotarian Proletariat Parallel Universe™ scenario. Dum Blather, Walter Crankite & 99% of The Lamestream Midiots™ would be doing “in-depth” (IYKWIM) stories about the joys of soap-dropping in the Wal*Mart SuperCenter Gulags™ if “deliberately distorting” the news were illegal.

    You have to understand that the airwaves do not belong to the broadcasters. They are owned by We, The People.

    Now before you start yelling at me about the Fairness Doctrine, let me tell you that I am NOT advocating the return of the Fairness Doctrine. In fact, not one of the hosts on my network are wanting to see a return of the Fairness Doctrine — as it applies to a single station in a market.

    Yeeeeah. You only want to ensure that “The People’s Airwaves™” have at least one Marxist station putting people to sleep in every market, at the expense of a station that could be actually making money for its owners on its own accord, without having to steal money from Boys & Girls Clubs.

    Getting back to the topic of reporting the NEWS and nothing but the vetted, fact-checked news, the simplest way of getting accuracy back to the news reporting is to get back to regulating the airwaves.

    Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot & both Kim’s would be so proud of you. :em72:

    The “simplest way” is, as has been happening these last few years, to fact-check their asses mercilessly and laugh derisively at the ass-masters as they swirl down The Shitter of History™ into The Sewers of Oblivion™.

    There is only one industry mentioned in the US Constitution and that was the media. It was mentioned by the founding fathers because they felt that an independent press (or media) was important to a honest and transparent government. Lately it is all but that.

    “Independent” means just that, Dave. It means “keeping the government (Read: Political parties) and the media from becoming political allies.

    For the last 50+ years there’s been an unholy alliance between one particular political party and the media. (And it hasn’t been a certain party whose mascot is an elephant.) It’s only recently (since the fruition of the internet) that more and more of the “unwashed masses” have been able to communicate, en mass, and find out the bullshit that’s been being shoveled onto our plates and being told that it’s “accurate“. Big Meeeedia™ (aka “The Shitstains on the Sheets of Humanity™”) are having to eat their own shit these days and they’re none-too-happy about having their Marxist Monopoly™ taken away from them by us lowly plebes.

    Anyways, the plane is here and I got to fly back to Everett.

    Hope you had a safe and enjoyable flight.

  161. Radical Redneck Comment by Radical Redneck

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    Chris, are you going to this? :em38: :em72:

    If you are you should hook up with a bunch of people I know who’ll be there. They plan to spend the entire 8 hours mercilessly mocking the hippies and leftoids (few are as good at it as my friend). They’ll bring a bunch of shirts pro Thompson, Reagan, Cheney, Military, America as well as anti Hippie, Che’, Castro, Chavez, Hillary, Commie, etc. :em99: :em69:

    If there was any way I could get away, I would have flown out there for this spectacle. :em94:

    The “Peace Mother” will be there too. It promises to be the second worst day of Cindy Shitbag’s life! :twisted:

  162. psychochick Comment by psychochick

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    BC
    You know the left thinks this “marxist” media is right-wing. Since the right thinks it’s left-wing, maybe that puts them in the middle. I think maybe you should read an actual marxist paper before you consider the MSM to be of that persuasion. Check out “Worker’s Vanguard.” One thing you might like is that they seem to hate other marxist groups as much or more than mainstream US politics/government. (I have never been marxist, but do read things out of curiousity.)

    Wayne
    It looks like a frightening list, but there have been so many news stories and books published in that time. If you break it down per year, it’s probably less heinous.

    The Photoshop stuff worries me the most. It would be so easy to change the flag on that warship in disputed territory, for example.

    Taking a photo of an action figure and passing it off as a soldier? That is kind of alarming.

  163. LC SkyeChild G.L.O.R. Comment by LC SkyeChild G.L.O.R.

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    Chuck Norris? No thanks. THIS one makes MY heart skip a beat. (If I don’t get the pic, I’ll up a link)
    Ohhhhh, yeah.....

  164. LC SkyeChild G.L.O.R. Comment by LC SkyeChild G.L.O.R.

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    http://tinyurl.com/28vkh8

  165. LC SkyeChild G.L.O.R. Comment by LC SkyeChild G.L.O.R.

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    So how DO we add photos, anyway?

  166. Unregistered Comment by 1inchgroup

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    AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARGH!

    (tension breaker, had to be done.)

    Good thread, I needed that.

  167. psychochick Comment by psychochick

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    SkyeChild
    The question I’ve been dying to know (photos).

    Classy.

    Chuck Norris does nothing for me. He’s probably a wonderful person, but not liking the films doesn’t help. I don’t like the muscular guys. Give me the scrawny Daniel Craig in “Layer Cake.” He really bulked up for the Bond role.

  168. psychochick Comment by psychochick

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    This is how I first fell in love:

    http://www.k9pals.org/adopt_profile.php?dogid=107

    They say he’s a dobie mix, but he’s got the perfect coloration to be a black and tan Australian kelpie, and he’s got that big bushy tail, and we are in cattle country. The description is wrong–he was fearful and wreaked devastation until he calmed down. Trying to get out of a carpeted room by digging under the door was one example. A little ruined carpeting is not the end of the world, and so what if the wood on the front door is thoroughly gouged. He’s worth it.

  169. LC Cheapshot911, Dept. of Redneck Tech Comment by LC Cheapshot911, Dept. of Redneck Tech

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    Smiles! Everyone!

    Two of the Best!

  170. LC Mrs. M-ITT™ Comment by LC Mrs. M-ITT™

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    So how DO we add photos, anyway?

    Get the link to your image and then look up at the button bar and you’ll see an Img button. Click that and paste your link in there and then it will ask you for an image name. Just type whatever you want to call it in that. :em93:

  171. LC Mrs. M-ITT™ Comment by LC Mrs. M-ITT™

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    And Lefties want to accuse Bush of being a Totalitarian Dictator??

  172. LC Wil Comment by LC Wil

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    Dave:

    You have to understand that the airwaves do not belong to the broadcasters. They are owned by We, The People.

    Do any of you remember prior to the deregulation, when a radio or television station’s license was up for renewal, they would broadcast this fact and there would be public hearings to discuss whether or not that station should be renewed?

    Remember it quite well - especially given that my favorite radio station (which is the one carrying Rush, Sean, and Mark Levin) broadcasts the message every couple of years, at license renewal time. (btw, none of the others ever do,)

    I understand your point, that the airwaves are a scarce resource, etc. I just don’t see a need for regulation. The Fairness Doctrine wasn’t an issue to anyone until Rush and Sean and Mark Levin and Neal Boortz and Glenn Beck and Gordon Liddy and Tony Snow and a few others made the Democrats run for cover after 1994.

    Prior to the FCC deregulation by Reagan

    He had a little help from Congress (controlle by whom, exactly?) who had to approve all the deregulation you don’t like. Yes, I would like more accurate media, too, but credit where it is due, m’kay?

    “You want more accurate and truthfull? Hey, it only costs a quarter!”
    . . . Lewis Grizzard, Commentator for the Atlanta Journal and Constitution.

    That doesn’t happen any more. There hasn’t been a public hearing to discuss licensing since 1986. There are no consequences for lying or misleading.

    It’s called the marketplace, Dave. There is a consequencefor innacuracies. It’s just that it takes a while. Be patient.

    But we are looking for a Fairness Doctrine within a market itself. People should have a choice of what to listen to, and not have it be decided by five major broadcast conglomerates. (but that is a whole different rant)

    What the people want, the people get. If yiour ideas aren’t making people happy, either change the ideas, or sell them better. Asking for Government requlation to control a free market reslts in the loss of a free market. Freedom or Kark Marx?

    blockquote>Getting back to the topic of reporting the NEWS and nothing but the vetted, fact-checked news, the simplest way of getting accuracy back to the news reporting is to get back to regulating the airwaves.

    No, the easist, cleanest, least restrictive (and above all, allowable under a strict reading f the First Ammendment) way to accomplish a free media is to get the hell out of the way.

    Two things the Authoritariansd always want: Control of the guns and control of the media. Guns are already under way the hell more than Constitutional control, and now, we are faced with an attempt to control the media. Guess where we are gonna come down?

    Have a nice flight, Dave.

  173. LC 0311 crunchie Comment by LC 0311 crunchie

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    That doesn’t happen any more. There hasn’t been a public hearing to discuss licensing since 1986.

    Gotta throw the BS flag Deej. Two or three tears ago WJNO AM 1290 here in WPB aired a PSA stating exactly that. Their license was up for renewal and they had to announce a public hearing on the renewal and were inviting comments.

    If that call sign looks familiar it’s because it was Randi Rhodes’ old station before she went to Err America. It still carries her show because of “contractual obligations” as I heard it described.

    he doesn’t like the gun’s symbolism

    Bull shit, he doesn’t know what end to point up.

  174. LC Wil Comment by LC Wil

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    Oh, and Dave, Independent Press means that NO MATTER WHAT is being broadcast AS NEWS, it is absolutely, positively, NONE OF THE GOVERNMENTS FUCKING BUSINESS. Any intervention beyond this point by an agent of the Govenment, the Press is no longer FREE.

    If Glenn Beck calls Barack Obama a shit eating, dog porking, islamist son of a cheap baghdad whore, it is THE PRESSES responsibility to fix the problem. If the Government gets involved, it will regulate everything to death, even though in the case I just outlined, there was clearly wrond being committed.

    Feel free to sue for Libel or Slander, and take your chance in fron of a Jury of your peers. Prior Restraint is evil.

  175. LC 0311 crunchie Comment by LC 0311 crunchie

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    he doesn’t like the gun’s symbolism

    Actually. let me retract my last statement. He doesn’t like the guns symbolism because it represents a free citizenry rather than a subservient, subjugated, population of serfs.

  176. Useful Idiot Comment by Useful Idiot

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    You should draw the blinds when you let your pussy sit so close to the window.

  177. LC Wil Comment by LC Wil

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    PsychoChick:

    BC
    You know the left thinks this “marxist” media is right-wing. Since the right thinks it’s left-wing, maybe that puts them in the middle. I think maybe you should read an actual marxist paper before you consider the MSM to be of that persuasion.

    Since the marxist democratic party has gotten used to having total control of the media (”Pravda” anyone?), and thinks anyone to the right of John Kerry (who was actually described as a moderate!) is a KKKonservative, right wing death beast, I can understand that they feel that they are losing control of late. Since they have only retained control of NBC, PBS, CBS, ABC, CNN, MSNBC, CNBC, Public radio, the Washington Post, NYT, LAT, adbliddynauseum, and have lost control of half of talk radio and half of the internet, they don’t have the total control they feel is their God Given right and entitlement. Fact checking the annointed just cannot be allowed.

    Funny how half control of talk radio and the internet has handed the Democrats asses to them, time after time. Lies, Half truth and misdirection don’t work anymore.

    Talk radio started flexing it’s muscles just about ten years ago. The power of the internet is still being explored, still being determined, but the viral, unchecked, and above all, UNREGULATED power of unrestrained communication scares the bloody hell out of a certain class of people.

    Like damn near everything else, freedom comes when the Government gets out of the way. “Free Press” doesn’t mean the newspapers are cheap - it means that it’s none of the governments GODDAMN BUSINESS what is printed.

    Power used to come from the end of a gun. Now it comes from a keyboard or a microphone. Beware anyone who wants to control what you can read or hear “for your own good.”

    Prior restraint is evil.

  178. LC 0311 crunchie Comment by LC 0311 crunchie

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    Prior restraint is evil.

    Amen brudda!

  179. Sir Christopher Comment by Sir Christopher

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    Radical Redneck:

    Actually i detest going into the city except for Giants games and certain restaurants (Gary Danko, Slanted Door, Boulevard, Le Central, etc.), and although the thought of provoking libtards with my Reagan shirt is appealing, i’d rather stay at home and record my OWN music.

    but if YOU were coming, i’d be there in a heartbeat…reconsider?

    Crunchie:

    I’m coming out to Florida around Christmas for a cruise, and plan to arrive early and make the rounds of family and friends…will advise.. you too B.C. Is Neil still around?

  180. Tsubaki Shijuro Comment by Tsubaki Shijuro

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    >I don’t like the muscular guys.

    Look out! You’re playing right into the whole liberal men=scrawny, effeminate men stereotype! :)

  181. LC SkyeChild G.L.O.R. Comment by LC SkyeChild G.L.O.R.

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    Mrs. M

    Get the link to your image and then look up at the button bar and you’ll see an Img button. Click that and paste your link in there and then it will ask you for an image name. Just type whatever you want to call it in that.

    I did that, but for some reason the url I was using didn’t take. Of course, it COULD be cause I shortened it with Tiny URL.

    Tsubaki

    Look out! You’re playing right into the whole liberal men=scrawny, effeminate men stereotype!

    Give me the rugged cowboy-type anyday. *Swoons at the thought of Tom Selleck, Tom Skerritt, Sam Elliott* *SIGH*

  182. LC Wil Comment by LC Wil

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    Oh, and Dave:

    There are no consequences for lying or misleading.

    Why did AirUnAmerican go broke, then? That was, after all, their stock in trade.

  183. Radical Redneck Comment by Radical Redneck

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    Chris:

    That’s nice of you to say but my schedule is impossible. My next big moonbat taunting fest will be on 9/11 where a bunch of us plan to infiltrate the Truthers™ and heap the ridicule. :em58:

  184. Radical Redneck Comment by Radical Redneck

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    Swoons at the thought of Tom Selleck, Tom Skerritt, Sam Elliott* *SIGH*

    Oh come on now Skyechild! We all KNOW you have the life-sized David Schwimmer poster on your ceiling! ;-)

  185. LC Wil Comment by LC Wil

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    Tsubaki:

    Look out! You’re playing right into the whole liberal men=scrawny, effeminate men stereotype! :)

    Aaaaand stereotypes get started how? :em99:

  186. LC SkyeChild G.L.O.R. Comment by LC SkyeChild G.L.O.R.

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    Oh come on now Skyechild! We all KNOW you have the life-sized David Schwimmer poster on your ceiling!

    EWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW
    WWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW
    WWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW

    I DID, however, just find a picture of Sam Elliott’s nekkid backside. 8-)

  187. LC CountryRED GLOR Comment by LC CountryRED GLOR

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    Ok Cruch, Just for you.

    I see testicles, not boobies!

  188. Radical Redneck Comment by Radical Redneck

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    I’m coming out to Florida around Christmas for a cruise

    Chris, maybe you’ll get lucky on your cruise! :em34: :em69:

  189. LC SkyeChild G.L.O.R. Comment by LC SkyeChild G.L.O.R.

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    Where’s B.C. with the brain bleach when ya need him?

  190. Tsubaki Shijuro Comment by Tsubaki Shijuro

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    >Aaaaand stereotypes get started how?

    Hmmmm…Do you mean…from reality?!?!?!

  191. Ten-Ten Comment by Ten-Ten

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    http://www.hyscience.com/archives/2007/08/new_data_publis.php
    So why isn’t this ALL over the media?

    Kinda kills the whole deal.

    Chicken little is wrong, the sky is not falling.

    But Al Gore has no hidden agenda……Lying scum.

  192. Merc, Imperial SomethingorOther Comment by Merc, Imperial SomethingorOther

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    Power used to come from the end of a gun. Now it comes from a keyboard or a microphone. Beware anyone who wants to control what you can read or hear “for your own good.”

    :em34: I THINK I LOVE YOU WIL! :em58:

  193. LC HJ Caveman82952 Comment by LC HJ Caveman82952

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    This may explain why this site it hated by the left…read some real interesting appraisals, and laughed my ass off. They view us with disdain, we hold them in contempt. Fair enough……..

  194. Ten-Ten Comment by Ten-Ten

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    *chirp* *chirp*

  195. DJ Allyn,  ITW Comment by DJ Allyn, ITW

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    Uh-huh. And pigs dressed up as ballerinas and routinely entertained audiences at the Boston Pops.

    So, CNNABCNBCMSNBCNPRCBS™ would have had their collective collectivist licenses revoked years ago, under your Idiotarian Proletariat Parallel Universe™ scenario. Dum Blather, Walter Crankite & 99% of The Lamestream Midiots™ would be doing “in-depth” (IYKWIM) stories about the joys of soap-dropping in the Wal*Mart SuperCenter Gulags™ if “deliberately distorting” the news were illegal.

    Actually, yes. At least the broadcast stations. But either you were too young to remember, or you never paid close enough attention to any of this. (most people didn’t)

    I am familiar with this because it is an industry that I’ve worked in and around since 1967.

    The general theory in the mid-1980s was that deregulation would bring on more competition. Just the opposite occured because the big fish swallowed up the smaller fish, which was the intent all along. I got out of radio right at the time that deregulation went into effect, and I can tell you that it was pure carnage.

    Now, twenty years later, news has become infotainment with more money spent on glitz and ditz than in actual news gathering and fact-checking. Actually, there is probably nobody that does fact-checking any longer, since most news outlets don’t even have their own reporters any more. Networks buy their feed stories from any tom, dick or harriet with a camera and a microphone. Much of the reporting is voice overs done to stock footage. Many stories are out and out fakes.

    Yeeeeah. You only want to ensure that “The People’s Airwaves™” have at least one Marxist station putting people to sleep in every market, at the expense of a station that could be actually making money for its owners on its own accord, without having to steal money from Boys & Girls Clubs.

    *yawn*

    Yes, Evan M. Cohen and Rex Sorensen were fucknozzles. They are gone, and AAR is out of bankruptcy with Stephen L. Green as the owner. It still isn’t turning a profit, but then again it took FOX Noise almost six years before it broke even. And they started with their own stations.

    But you fail to see the important thing here: WE own the fucking airwaves, NOT the broadcasters.

    Because of deregulation, there are only six major broadcasters that own all of the broadcast media in this country. Six. That is basically a monopoly. We the People no longer “decide what the market is” because there is no longer any need for competition. You get one flavor and that’s it.

    Air America has a toe-hold in a few of the top markets. Most of the stations are low-wattage stations with very small footprints. So when you try to say that nobody will listen to Air America based on daypart numbers compared to other conservative talk stations, it is comparing apples to oranges because less people can even pick up most of the Air America stations.

    Then you have stations in places like Ohio that had the Air America format and despite the handicap of being a low-watter, they became number one in the market. Then the stations were bought out by Christian Conservatives for an obscene amount of money and converted to Christian broadcast and quickly dropped to the bottom of the market.

    In other words, the owners would rather tie up the frequency and run it at a loss than to have a liberal/progressive station in their market.

    Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot & both Kim’s would be so proud of you.

    The “simplest way” is, as has been happening these last few years, to fact-check their asses mercilessly and laugh derisively at the ass-masters as they swirl down The Shitter of History™ into The Sewers of Oblivion™.

    And so you end up with endless stories of Aruba and Anna Nichole Smith — because they are “safe” stories. You are oblivious to the fact that the only thing that stands in the way of an out of control government is the media that was put there to keep in in check. But if you make the media worthless, then government can run amok and you would never know until it is too late.

    We are beginning to see that now.

    “Independent” means just that, Dave. It means “keeping the government (Read: Political parties) and the media from becoming political allies.

    Don’t you see it, BC? They are already in bed with each other!

    Of course you don’t see it because you are only seeing that there is a problem, not what the cause of that problem is.

    Like I said, I have been in the industry since 1967, and I know first hand what is going on.

    I also think that it is too late to fix the problem.

    Hope you had a safe and enjoyable flight.

    I did. The problem is that it takes me longer to get from the airport home than it does to get from Portland to the airport.

    Oh, and here is an interesting read on our media

  196. psychochick Comment by psychochick

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    guys
    -I didn’t realize there was a stereotype of scrawny liberal men
    -I thought the stereotype was of scrawny intellectuals
    –they have those as conservatives, don’t they? :em93:

    -I think there are too many people involved to generalize: scrawny conservatives/liberal musclemen

    But thanks for pointing that out. I am frequently oblivious to some of the stereotyping from this end of the aisle. For instance, I didn’t realize that the people who drive a Prius are hippie assholes. Now I am better informed!

    Wil
    I have to think about the media thing and think about what I’ve read over the past decades. What comes to mind immediately is that Reagan made a bunch of factual errors in speeches, and there wasn’t a peep from the MSM–back then they were conservative. There was almost never a critical word about Israel until after they invaded Lebanon. (I don’t not support Israel–but the governments and policies are not always perfect. I hope it’s become clear that I despise anti-semitism and the people that practice it, so no one needs to call me a cupid stunt again.) The problem is that there are gaps in my keeping up with the press, depending on how difficult graduate school was at the moment.

    I think you can make a much better case for the MSM being under Democratic control than for being Marxist, unless you consider the Democratic Party marxist, which is ironic considering their source of funding from businesses. My God–I re-read your post, and you do consider the Democratic Party marxist! But I have read innumerable positive pieces about Republicans. Obviously, the coverage varies depending on what is going on in the country and world.

    I would say that I have not noticed media bias, but then Tsubaki would swoop in and go ahah! That is evidence that it’s existence is so pervasive and well-hidden. It’s hard to argue the lack of something.

    At least with the MSM (and Fox), there is some effort to fact-check and be accurate. News pieces are on the record and can be analyzed later for accuracy, and you end up with lists like the one Wayne posted.. A lot of talk radio and internet information is freeform and is broadcast without a good grounding in fact and then dissipates. Opinion is fine. We need it to debate and be a democracy. But I don’t like that people can spew lies and not even leave a record of them. That would apply to liberal outlets, too, but there are fewer of them. I generally don’t trust any opinion I get from the web unless I know the source (liberal/right).

    And as for the MSM being propaganda, how many people could tell you what a National Security Letter is? I bet it’s a pretty low percentage, and I bet it doesn’t even come up in most local papers. I knew there was a dispute about their being issued, but I had to read the definition in a book to get some grip.

    Well, I’ve spent a chunk of my life on this and will probably just piss people off. I need to walk the monster, which involves getting mauled when I grab his choke chain. never seen a dog that can leap like that–but apparently as the sheep go through the chutes, they will jump up and run along their backs. I was so shocked to read that a trained kelpie can go for $10K! Ours is not trained that we know of. Haven’t been able to find a herd of sheep to test him on, and I think people would get pissed off if we messed with their cattle. Just a guess. I’m pretty timid in real life: “Oh, may I rent your herd?” I don’t think so.

    Mrs. M
    Thanks–you know everything about the site, don’t you?

  197. psychochick Comment by psychochick

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    Ten-Ten
    It was covered in yesterday’s LAT. Apparently there is satellite data for the temps of more recent years that do show a substantial increase in temp (I think I read that in some sci mag, not in the LAT).

    I guess I was wrong about MSM fact-checking. I read major papers that have their own reporters, so that’s what I’m used to.

  198. WayneB Comment by WayneB

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    Then you have stations in places like Ohio that had the Air America format and despite the handicap of being a low-watter, they became number one in the market.

    You need to be more careful where you buy your mushrooms. Some of the funky ones must have gotten in the last batch. If you had specified what PART of Ohio, I might have believed you, but with an implication that it was Ohio in general, I can only sit here laughing. Nearly all the radio stations in this area are in Ohio, and the only thing Airead America led the market in was receiving heaping helpings of scorn from radio personalities and listeners alike.

    Also,if you notice in that list I linked to, approximately 10% are from BEFORE 1986, while over 90% of the rest are from 1998 forward. Since 1998 is about the earliest you can find widespread usage of the Internet, then doing Internet searches would be expected to turn up a majority of results after that point. In fact, I’m amazed that so many were from before then. When you factor in the point that the list was created from a fairly small amount of web searches, it seems pretty likely that there’s a lot more waiting to be added.

    Oh, and the radio stations around here have advertised recently about needing to hold public hearings to renew their licenses, too.

  199. Unregistered Comment by leoni2, LC

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    ANOTHER DAY, ANOTHER RAILROADED BROWN VICTIM IN THE FASCIST STATES OF AMERIKKKA!

    You again. Please, aren’t you yet tired of singing the same old stupid song and dance? Go and cry us a river somewhere else.

  200. WayneB Comment by WayneB

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    Psychochick - A Political Scientist at UCLA did a media bias study and was surprised at his findings:

    “I suspected that many media outlets would tilt to the left because surveys have shown that reporters tend to vote more Democrat than Republican,” said Tim Groseclose, a UCLA political scientist and the study’s lead author. “But I was surprised at just how pronounced the distinctions are.”

  201. Lady Heather Comment by Lady Heather

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    ANOTHER DAY, ANOTHER RAILROADED BROWN VICTIM IN THE FASCIST STATES OF AMERIKKKA!

    My dear retarded child,

    Please go jump off the highest bridge you can find in protest.

  202. psychochick Comment by psychochick

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    Wayne
    Wow! Thanks. That seems like a really logical approach. When I have a little time, I’ll dig out the original paper. I’m glad that NPR rated with the news magazines.

  203. Unregistered Comment by DukeFenton

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    OK, first off, something needs to be clarified here. I suspect some of you already know, and others will think it’s awfully nitpicky; but a few (*COUGH*DJ*COUGH*) might benefit from the education.

    No matter what you’ve been told, ‘Allah’ *IS NOT* Arabic for ‘God’ and it is *NOT* a name. It is a title meaning simply ‘the Lord.’ It has the same meaning as ‘Elohim’ but might or might not refer to the same deity.

    While it is true that both Muslims and Arab Christians use the same term, strictly speaking they *DO NOT* worship the same God. In the time of MoeHamHead (GRTBG) that title was understood to refer to the moon god Hubal - which is itself not a name but a title meaning ‘great chief.’ Not that I really care if someone wants to worship a black rock representing an ancient moon god, but I really have a problem with them lying about it. If the raghead camel-humpers have forgotten their own deity’s actual name, :em99: that’s their problem.

    **********

    On a completely unrelated and off-topic matter: I’m still looking to get to somewhere that isn’t under the iron thumb of His Phallocephalic Excrescence Mr. Blumenthal. Can anyone tell me about North Dakota? It sounds pretty quiet and not yet overrun with, ahem, ‘people who don’t have permission to be there.’ (Of course, that might mean there’s no jobs to be had.)

  204. WayneB Comment by WayneB

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    Oh, I love this. Dave uses a legal document to make a “point” about Fox in the same post along with blaming deregulation on the distortions in the media, but the legal document contains this gem:

    The policy did not begin to take shape, however, until 1969 when the FCC
    was called upon to investigate complaints regarding news distortion.

    That’s a little before deregulation went into effect. I’m sure it must have been all Nixon’s fault.

  205. Tsubaki Shijuro Comment by Tsubaki Shijuro

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    >I would say that I have not noticed media bias, but then Tsubaki would swoop in and go ahah! That is evidence that it’s existence is so pervasive and well-hidden. It’s hard to argue the lack of something.

    Well, not necessarily evidence that its existence is so pervasive (which it is) and well-hidden (which it most certainly is NOT), but just that when a person espouses a certain viewpoint or ideology, the depiction of that viewpoint or ideology, whether as spin on a news story or the content of a sitcom, often appears to that person to be mainstream or moderate.

    Liberals believe that the mainstream media isn’t biased only because the mainstream media is almost always in line with liberal ideology; in other words, with the way liberals think things should be. Thus, it looks mainstream or moderate to them, even when it is so wholly one-sided that it has become an over-the-top parody of liberal bias.

    The fact is, there is almost no conservative viewpoint or interpretation being expressed in mainstream/old media. Liberals frequently (if not always) have the asinine notion that President Bush is conservative, so I’m not surprised that so many seem to believe that anybody that isn’t a Marxist is a hardcore conservative. George W. Bush is not, and has at no time, been a conservative, except on a few issues. (When I say conservative, I mean espousing the ideology that was promoted and written about extensively by the Founding Fathers. Modern American liberalism, obviously, is completely foreign to their vision.)

    I’m not goofy enough to believe that I’m a moderate or mainstream in modern America. I know that merely believing in the Founding Principles of the United States of America makes me an extremist these days, but at least I’m honest about where I stand–and I stand in good company. I’m 100% for the vision of liberty as presented by the Founding Fathers, and 100% against the totalitarian collectivism that has infested and begun to destroy America. That’s why I’m neither Republican (the big government party) nor Democrat (the huge government party). Neither cares about what the United States was intended to be, or about anybody’s liberty, and both are taking us down the road to serfdom, just at different speeds.

    So, just having a token Republican on a panel with five Democrats doesn’t mean that a conservative viewpoint is being presented. It just means that varying degrees of collectivism are being presented. It is highly unlikely that any of the six adhere to, or even know, what the Founding Fathers intended this country to be.

    It’s a telling fact that when I want to teach my kids about not getting scammed, I turn on something like CBS News and have them pick out the spin. It’s getting to be waaaaaay too easy, though. Even commercials are more honest than mainstream news broadcasts/newspapers!

  206. psychochick Comment by psychochick

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    Tsubaki
    Sorry–didn’t mean to seem like I was criticising you, but it was something we had discussed before, so I knew that my not seeing a bias would buttress your point that there is one. I have to read that study that Wayne pointed out.

    “the vision as presented by the Founding Fathers”
    –Declaration of Independence, Constitution/BIl of Rights. I’ve had several exhortations to read the “Federalist Papers”–since I haven’t read it (yet!), I’m not quite sure where it fits in the big picture. Anti-FP was another recommendation. Is there anything else I should read?

    The everybody is a marxist thing is getting old. The Spartacist League–now there are marxists. I proposed this in a late night post, and I don’t think you ever saw it. When I get all the communist stuff read that you gave me and the unedited current stuff that goes on endlessly, could we go private to discuss it? (C vs D) We could have our own thread that way. I’m a privacy fiend with my Rottie correspondents.

  207. Xystus Comment by Xystus

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    A belated comment about beastflesh: Here in West Cutover/North Flyover I’ve had at least two opportunities to sample bear in a casserole. The meat’s been described as “rich,” meaning relatively filling, I suppose. Served this way, at least, it ain’t bad.

    About HugeEgo Chavenezuela: I’m reminded of Julius Caesar’s successive terms as Roman dictator. He finally got himself named dictator for life; the next year he got himself whacked.

    Sic semper Tyrannus.

  208. DJ Allyn,  ITW Comment by DJ Allyn, ITW

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    Oh, and the radio stations around here have advertised recently about needing to hold public hearings to renew their licenses, too.

    Yes, because Kevin Martin, the FCC Chairman, is starting to enforce the rule. It has largely been ignored by most broadcasters in the past twenty years.

    If you had specified what PART of Ohio, I might have believed you, but with an implication that it was Ohio in general, I can only sit here laughing.

    I forgot to type Cincinnati? Doh!

    As I recall (and I don’t have the Arbitron book for that time period here at the moment), AAR had been on a blast horn with 50,000 watts that could be heard along the East Coast all the way down to Florida. They were number one in their Daypart, and suddenly they were moved by Clear Channel to a 5,000 watt station that couldn’t be heard within much of the city limits. The format that replaced them was a sports station, as I recall, and their numbers went down in the cellar.

    I will have to dig out that book to see the exact numbers.

    As far as stations and show bleeding money and still staying on the air, do you realize the ESPN Sports radio has NEVER turned a profit? Neither has FOX Radio. Bill O’Reilly’s radio show is a big money loser — in fact it is a vanity show that he pays for.

    Thirty percent of Michael Savage’s affiliates are vanity stations paid for by his distributor. Rush and Hannity have ten percent of their stations run as vanities.

    I am not trying to say that Air America will always beat out other stations in a market if they are given a level playing field. It would depend on the market. But even if they came in third or fourth in any given market is better than not being allowed into that market because they are being shut out.

    Yse, in some markets they are only pulling a 0.4 share, and that looks damn low. But several of those markets have other genre to take into consideration. You also have to consider that Entercom, ClearChannel, and Infinity might set AAR up in a station, but it is usually a small watter, with a tiny footprint, and they aren’t willing to promote the format or hire local talent for local shows.

    If ANY syndicated talk format is going to succeed, they need to:

    a) be heard.
    b) be promoted
    c) have some local talent during at least on of the drive-times.

    Air America doesn’t control any of that. They are just a content provider. Or show is distributed to 67 affiliates, sixteen cable outlets, and two satellite rebroadcasters. We don’t control whether the stations broadcasting us are promoting us or even providing a strong enough signal to get us out there.

    But I will tell you, those markets that DO promote and have local programming, such as KPOJ (where we broadcast from) are going real strong, and we are number two right now in our market.

    We also go head-to-head against Rush, and we beat him completely in seven top markets, even with small watters.

    So we can prove to be viable.

  209. psychochick Comment by psychochick

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    Xystus
    I don’t why it didn’t occur to me until Seagoon mentioned it last night that you could eat bear! Most everything seems edible, so I don’t know why I was so rigid about it. I think your description is as close as I’ll come, so thanks.

  210. psychochick Comment by psychochick

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    DJ
    I guess it’s not surprising, since it’s your field, but your command of the broadcasting system is really impressive. I’m also highly envious that you worked with xxxxx, xxxxxx, and xxxxxx. I really love them all, but spouse always considered AC to be subpar to the others. That must have been hard if you actually knew xxxxxxx.

    Tsubaki
    Please let me know if you come back tonight. I will keep worrying that you thought I was rude to you.

  211. Xystus Comment by Xystus

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    DukeFenton

    Regarding the A-word, I can’t offhand find confirmation of what you said about its meaning. The Biblical words meaning “Lord” that come to mind are Baal & Adonai–but I’m no expert.

    I do know something about North Dakota, however! The slogan around here is “North Dakota, where there’s a pretty girl behind every tree.” (You’re supposed to laugh because of the prairie’s presumed scarcity of trees.) :em93: My general impression of the state has always been that it’s part farm, part ranch. The big cities, Fargo & Grand Forks, are across the river from Minnesota. My brother lived a spell in GF & came to hate the place. If you’re concerned about illegals, you’d probably want to avoid that end of the state, since I think there’s a migrant-labor element to the harvest season. Winters of course tend to be cold & windy. 25 years ago there was an oil boom in the west, but I couldn’t say what the action’s like now. Outside of Fargo-Moorhead & GF it may be that work is scarce–but, yeah, it’s relatively quiet, & agriculture rules.

    BTW, which Bloominfool do you want to escape? I can think only of Klintoon flack Smedley.

  212. lc ima mommy, Imperial Handmaid Comment by lc ima mommy, Imperial Handmaid

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    Somebody tell Vergeldung that this ‘not news’ thread is up over 200 comments :em99:

  213. B.C., Imperial Torturer™ Comment by B.C., Imperial Torturer™

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    BTW, in Arabic there is a word for a “god” and there’s the word for “Gawd”. Lemme see if I can get this thing to post ‘em without screwing it up.

    Little “god” : اله

    Big “Gawd”: الله

  214. WayneB Comment by WayneB

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    Dave, I simply can’t imagine where you got your numbers, because I’m in the Cincinnati area. I’m telling you that no one around here listened to AAR except to find out what loony-toon crap was being spewed by the nutballs on it. It WAS a curiosity for a few weeks, but listening to petulant teenagers alternate between complaining about their angst and bragging that they’re the smartest people on the block gets old pretty quick.

    If ClearChannel moved it to a low-watt station, it’s because they were losing listeners in droves and/or getting tons of complaints about polluting the airwaves.

  215. Sir Guido Cabrone, LC, M.o.P. Comment by Sir Guido Cabrone, LC, M.o.P.

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    My dear retarded child,

    Please go jump off the highest bridge you can find in protest.

    Preferably with ten sticks of sweaty dynamite stuffed into your pants.

  216. CiSSnarl5.7 Comment by CiSSnarl5.7

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    And so you end up with endless stories of Aruba and Anna Nichole Smith — because they are “safe” stories. You are oblivious to the fact that the only thing that stands in the way of an out of control government is the media that was put there to keep in in check. But if you make the media worthless, then government can run amok and you would never know until it is too late.

    Ahhh helll….Deej you stepped in it this time..

    Hang on let me read the Consitution for the gazillionth time..”we the people in order ..mmmm nope don’t see anything in there about the media being put there for the purpose keeping the “U.S. Government in check”..sorry.
    I do however see a clearly defind system of check and balances..

    And the media in the USA is USELESS, because they have an AGENDA… you can’t see that agenda with the onslaught of sex, filth, homosexual peddleing, and race bating bullshit they stream across the airwaves 24-7/365?!?! …Oblivous? ACK!

    The only thing that stands in the way of an out of control government is US not the blow dried airheads on the ID10T box….. you know the ones that because of the Media generally get called such endearing names as “middle / fly over America… the yokels, trailer trash, hicks, and the red necks”

    BTW..that same bunch of people quietly every day gets a little more disgusted with the assclowns in DC, both coasts, and the shrills on the nightly *spit* news *spit* slurping down their fetid spew ….At least I know I do.

  217. DJ Allyn,  ITW Comment by DJ Allyn, ITW

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    I’m telling you that no one around here listened to AAR except to find out what loony-toon crap was being spewed by the nutballs on it.

    It’s not what the Arbiron book says, and just because YOU or your friends never listened to it, doesn’t mean that there weren’t a lot of other people listening.

    I am just going by our industry data tells us. We get the official and unoffical books all the time. I don’t listen to the second and third hand pundits who filter and analyze this data to spin it in such a way to make it look bad.

    Look, here is something you have to take into consideration when it comes to looking at the numbers.

    Talk radio is a subset in radio, and a small one at that. When breaking down a “share” you are doing damn good if you break a 1.0 share. If you break a 3.0 or even a 4.0, you are a stud, and worthy of worship.

    But those numbers also depend on how many other talk shows are in the market. The more talkers, the lower the share.

    Shares are broken down into several groups.

    There are shares for daypart, or specific times of the day such as “drive time” or “daytime” or “Early or late fring”

    There are shares for demographic which can be brokend down even further into age, social, and even race or nationality.

    The most important share is the genre. Music is the number one genre for radio. Then comes News and Talk, followed by Spanish and then Christian broadcasting. (I am talking about the top twenty markets in the country here, and not some of the smaller ones where the genre might appear a lot different)

    In the News / talk genre, NEWS is going to overshadow any talk format. If you have a station that is 60 or 80 percent news, then that station is going to get top billing in that genre’s number share.

    A talker that has local programming during at least one of its drive-times is going to get a higher share than a talker that only has syndicated programming. The thing is, local programming is much more expensive than piping a feed into a station and setting the station programming on auto-pilot.

    Unfortunately, that is what a lot of station owners are doing with the Air America format. It isn’t that a particular show doesn’t play well if put in a good daypart, it’s that the station’s overall numbers drop because they don’t compete with onother station’s local programming.

    Our show competes with Rush during the same daypart in six of the major markets. Ed Schultz competes with Rush in most of the other markets. In our six markets, we beat Rush in five of them. Schultz beats rush in 9 of them. Not bad, if you ask me.

    Randi Rhodes kills Bill O’Reilly in all of the markets, and bruises Sean Hannity in about half of them. Again, not bad. Stephanie Miller is doing good for a syndicated early morning West Coast show.

    Another thng that effects the share is the broadcast “footprint”. In other words, what size of an area does the signal reach?

    There are major six station owners in this country: Clear Channel, CBS, Entercom, Infinity, Citadel, Viacom. Those owners operate or tie up 94 percent of the available radio frequencies in this country, each owning several stations in each market, and the licenses for frequencies currently not being used.

    For example, Clear Channel and CBS both sit on licenses for 11 frequencies in the Seattle market that are not being used, nor do they have any intention of developing them. They are simply tying up the frequencies so that another broadcaster can’t come in and develop a station. This is one of the results of de-regulation. (there is a difference between “available” and “possible” frequencies, and that has to do with topographical complexities and the wattage and footprint of other stations with the same frequency.)

    The point I am trying to make, (and got a bit technical for most here) is that as a FORMAT, Air America is just as viable as its conservative counterparts. They “fail” in the your eyes because they bring in low share numbers with the assumption that they are operating in the same playing field as their Conservative competetors. They aren’t.

    In the case of the Cincinnati station, Clear Channel moved AAR to a low watter because they never expected AAR to actually do well. They were doing very good in their numbers, until they were forced to another station, and the sports format that replaced them sent the numbers for that station to the cellar.

    Why did Clear Channel make the move? Because AAR was competing head to head with their conservative talker that they had to pay more money for the show feeds. They were losing money NOT from the AAR station, but from the conservative one. So they torpedoed the AAR format to keep from bleeding money on their other station.

    THIS is what we progressives are talking about. Instead of de-regulation creating more competition in each market as was predicted by Reagan, it has actually stiffled competition and created an oligopoly.

    It is no longer “what the market decides” but by what the supplier dictates.

  218. LC Wil Comment by LC Wil

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    PsychoChick:

    Wil
    I have to think about the media thing and think about what I’ve read over the past decades. What comes to mind immediately is that Reagan made a bunch of factual errors in speeches, and there wasn’t a peep from the MSM–back then they were conservative.

    Uh, this is the same “conservative” media that managed to call Ronald Reagan an idiot or worse at least once a week for his entire Presidency? Pull the other one, this leg is getting a wee stiff.

    There was almost never a critical word about Israel until after they invaded Lebanon.

    Ok, two in a row. What planet have you been on? Every UN Resolution against Israel was reported like the end of the world. You know the one; “World Ends, Women and Childen Hurt Worst.” Israel has never has a friend in our media.

    I hope it’s become clear that I despise anti-semitism

    It has to me. Can’t speak for the rest of the audience, but I know.

    so no one needs to call me a cupid stunt again.

    I don’t think I have made that mistake. If I have, please accept my abject appology. I have been a wee harsh with some of the “drive-by” knuckleheads we see occasionally, but you have been a Lady, and have not to my knowledge done anything to deserve such an appelation.

    I think you can make a much better case for the MSM being under Democratic control than for being Marxist, unless you consider the Democratic Party marxist, which is ironic considering their source of funding from businesses. My God–I re-read your post, and you do consider the Democratic Party marxist!

    With a caveat, yes. Not the entire party. Not even a majority of the party. But the people who currently control the Democratic Party, and the people who pull THEIR strings, my personal opinion, (based on more years of people watching than I care to admit) merely Marxist would be a step up. The result is that the entire party (the sheeple who go along with the leaders) get the tar, as well.

    I’m old enough to remember when the term “Politics stops at the waters edge” didn’t have to be explained.

    I’m old enough to see what liberalized divorce, abortion and welfare checks have done to the inner cities.

    I’m old enough to remember when voting was considered a duty, not just a right, and people took pride in learning enough about the candidates to make an intelligent choice.

    I am old enough to have been present when there were more Republicans than Democrats in the march across the Selma, Alabama bridge.

    May God save me from good intentions, for they pave the road to hell.

    I’m also old enough to remember when the Office of the Presidency was enough of a cachet to get respect for the man in to office. Dubya didn’t take that away.

    The media gladly reports every tiny mistake by any Republican as a willful lie, worse than Watergate. Then, they report William “Cold Cash” Jefferson as being picked on.

    Anybody here remember Hillary being asked any “tough” questions? You know, little things like “Where did those billing records come from, and how were they found the day after the statute of limitations ran out?” Typical question period for a Conservative starts with “Have you stopped beating your wife yet?”

    Yes, the media is biased.

    But I have read innumerable positive pieces about Republicans. Obviously, the coverage varies depending on what is going on in the country and world.

    Yes, John McLame and Rudy Guiliani have gotten rave reviews in the MSM. Can’t remember either being accused of being a Conservative, and if, mayhaps either were to win the Republican Nomination, then they will both be reported as Reich-Wing Death Beasts, and worse than GeorgeHitlerHaliBushBurton.

    The easiest way to NOT see the bias is when it is an outlook you have been trained to agree with.

    Any regulation of the media would be wrong. The market will decide what survives.

    And contrary to what Dave may think, Ruch, Sean, et al., didn’t become popular due to some vast, right-wing conspiracy. They had a message that NO ONE ELSE was broadcasting, stepped into a void, and cleaned up.

    Now, the Authoritarians, have found that their ideas cannot compete in a fair market place. (Yes Dave, it is - if Al Franken was able to make a coherent point and attract an audience, Clear Channel would have given the start up money away. They lose money and steal from charities because they don’t have anything to sell but hate.)

    Let’s see, the Conservatives have talk radio, and half of the Internet. And the Authoritarians want to control that, so that there is no way to escape the message we are supposed to hear.

    ===================

    In the interest of HIM’s bandwidth, I’m gonna bring this to an end. PsychoChick, have a great day, and may all be well in your world.

  219. DJ Allyn,  ITW Comment by DJ Allyn, ITW

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    Hang on let me read the Consitution for the gazillionth time..”we the people in order ..mmmm nope don’t see anything in there about the media being put there for the purpose keeping the “U.S. Government in check”..sorry.
    I do however see a clearly defind system of check and balances..

    Perhaps you should read a little closer:

    Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.

    Notice they don’t mention buggy whip manufactuers or shop owners, or farmers, they mention THE PRESS.

    Now you have to look for the intent, or why the framers chose to include the PRESS in the Constitution. There are a few places you can go for this:

    Here

    or even here

    Both of those will give you the general gist of why the founders felt that mentioning the PRESS in the Constitution was important.

    Uh, this is the same “conservative” media that managed to call Ronald Reagan an idiot or worse at least once a week for his entire Presidency? Pull the other one, this leg is getting a wee stiff.

    And the same “liberal” media that felt that Bill’s penis was a great story.

  220. LC Wil Comment by LC Wil

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    And the same “liberal” media that felt that Bill’s penis was a great story.

    Quite frankly, I fail to see that as being a great stoy at any time.

    Now, lying under oath about what he did with it ia another matter . . .

  221. Tsubaki Shijuro Comment by Tsubaki Shijuro

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    PC

    I didn’t think you were rude at all, so don’t worry about it. (I don’t think I’ve ever thought you were being rude to me.)

    When you get all that stuff read, there really won’t be anything left to talk about, unless you decide that you prefer collectivism.

    >The everybody is a marxist thing is getting old.

    It’s getting old for those of us who prefer liberty as well, so I wish they would just stop being Marxists :)

    Totalitarian collectivism is totalitarian collectivism, regardless of whether it’s called “Marxism,” “Nazism,” or “Modern American Liberalism.” When the government levies taxes at anything over a 1 or 2% rate, that’s too much, and here we’ve got about half of our income going to the government. When the government regulates just about everything in people’s lives to some degree, that’s totalitarianism. When the government steals money from me at the threat of violence, and gives it to somebody else who has no right to it, because of some Utopian social engineering scheme, that’s totalitarian collectivism. When the government forces me to participate in something like Socialist Insecurity, that’s totalitarian collectivism. If people want to have totalitarian collectivism, that’s their choice, but they shouldn’t try to pass it off as anything other than totalitarian collectivism.

    I honestly wonder why this is such a hard concept to grasp. Heavy government intervention and regulation is antithetical to liberty. The Founding Fathers established the United States specifically to get away from it, and established a Constitution that was intended to protect us from government intrusion and oppression. Communists, socialists, liberals, and other collectivists, by definition, are opposed to people being free from heavy government intervention. I’m not saying that in every point Democrat=Communist. Not all liberals are necessarily hardcore Marxists, but at the core, there is maybe a penny’s worth of difference between the two. The fundamental ideology is identical. It has been said that the difference between a communist and a socialist is that the communist will kill you to impose collectivism but the socialist will ease it in, little by little. The methods differ somewhat, but the goal is the same.

    Call me old fashioned, but I prefer liberty, and will fight to the death to prevent others from stealing it from me. I guess I’m just one of those wacky “live free or die” types.

  222. LC Wil Comment by LC Wil

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    Howzabout we start another Open Post, Dave? Whan they get over 200 comments, they start to get a tiny bit unwieldy.

    Just a thought.

  223. Tsubaki Shijuro Comment by Tsubaki Shijuro

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    >And the same “liberal” media that felt that Bill’s penis was a great story.

    The liberal media thinks everybody’s penis is a great story.

  224. Radical Redneck Comment by Radical Redneck

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    The liberal media thinks everybody’s penis is a great story

    One could extrapolate a “those that can’t, teach (or report on)” out of this. :em58: :em99:

  225. Sir Guido Cabrone, LC, M.o.P. Comment by Sir Guido Cabrone, LC, M.o.P.

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    Now, lying under oath about what he did with it ia another matter . . .

    You left out “To a Grand Jury” in there, Wil.

    The press kept insisting that, “it’s all about sex!”

    I had a conversation with my mother about that time, where she repeated the above line.

    My response was, “No, Mom, it’s about lying under oath to a Grand Jury.”

    “But still, it’s just about the president having sex.”

    “Mom, the MAFIA doesn’t lie to Grand Juries. About anything at all.”

    She just got a thoughtful look at that and dropped the subject.

  226. LC Wil Comment by LC Wil

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    Just fer shits ad giggles, I checked the stats. This thread is now # 2 on the “Most Commented” list for this year.

    Not bad for soething that started with a picture of Dave’s boss.

  227. DJ Allyn,  ITW Comment by DJ Allyn, ITW

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    I’m old enough to see what liberalized divorce, abortion and welfare checks have done to the inner cities.

    What, you are over 200 years old?

    I am old enough to have been present when there were more Republicans than Democrats in the march across the Selma, Alabama bridge.

    And then those Democrats that didn’t march wound up joining the Republican party.

    I’m also old enough to remember when the Office of the Presidency was enough of a cachet to get respect for the man in to office. Dubya didn’t take that away.

    No, Republicans did when they started their constant, un-ending attacks on Bill Clinton from the very moment he was elected. (Remember “The White House under Seige, day ##”?)

    The media gladly reports every tiny mistake by any Republican as a willful lie, worse than Watergate. Then, they report William “Cold Cash” Jefferson as being picked on.

    Do you have selective amnesia? Was the press on vacation when Clinton was in office? Thanks to the press, I know more about Clinton’s penis than I really need to know.

    The man had a blow job. Not the first time a president has been there and done that. It was none of our business, yet that “liberal press” felt that we really needed to know — in technocolor and slow motion.

    “Where did those billing records come from, and how were they found the day after the statute of limitations ran out?”

    The statute of limitations still tolls if discovery is still being sought. But notice that once those billing records were found, there still wasn’t any evidence of criminal wrong-doing?

    The entire $77 million investigation (paid for by you and me) was a Republican fishing expedition that found out nothing more than the fact that Clinton was a randy heterosexual who happened to like the occational blow job.

    So spare me the sob story about having respect for the man in the office. It rings rather hollow.

    Yes, the media is biased.

    No, more like lazy, under-staffed, and under-funded.

    The easiest way to NOT see the bias is when it is an outlook you have been trained to agree with.

    So where were you during the 1990s? Hell, where were you during the early 2000s when our “liberal media” pushed for the war in Iraq, and was a huge GWB cheerleader?

    Any regulation of the media would be wrong. The market will decide what survives.

    Except that you don’t even realize that the market DOESN’T have a chance to decide if the suppliers dictate the content. The “market” (being you and me) don’t get to decide on the content, we are only given choices by the suppliers. If the suppliers all become consolidated into one or maybe two mega suppliers, then there is no longer any competition or incentive to create more content.

    We are already seeing stations turning off and going away because it is cheaper for the owner to have one station than two or more broadcasting the same genre. As I mentioned above, owners like Clear Channel have no problem shutting down a station showing a “good book” if it means shoring up another station they own that has a higher operating cost due to contractual committments. So your meme about letting the market decide is a false premise in reality.

    The thing is, you get distracted by people like Brian Maloney and his echo chamber Michelle Malkin, as if either one of them are interested in telling you the entire story. Maloney, whose last gig has kept him working in the vanity radio arena because of his integrity has an axe to grind, and he isn’t going to let a few facts get in his way. Malkin only sees the ’scandal’ of the initial mismanagement of the previous owner, and the fraud of the first CEO, to paint the entire network provider as some eeeeevil organization.

    Air America is under new ownership and management now, and things are picking up. There is a great business model working now, and a viable five-year plan.

    And contrary to what Dave may think, Ruch, Sean, et al., didn’t become popular due to some vast, right-wing conspiracy. They had a message that NO ONE ELSE was broadcasting, stepped into a void, and cleaned up.

    I can remember when Rush was still Jeff Christie, and working at 14KQV

    Jeff Christie

    You won’t get any argument from me about how Rush is responsible for the revitalization of the AM radio band. If it wasn’t for Rush, AM would probably have been abandoned by now.

    (Yes Dave, it is - if Al Franken was able to make a coherent point and attract an audience, Clear Channel would have given the start up money away. They lose money and steal from charities because they don’t have anything to sell but hate.)

    First, Franken is no longer with AAR.

    Second, Franken didn’t have radio “chops”. He was initially brought in for “star power” and stayed longer than he should have.

    Third, You really need to move on from the previous ownership. The new Air America has new ownership and is run differently.

    Fourth, Clear Channel does supply over half of Air America’s affiliates, and they buy the liberal content from Air America, Jones Broadcasting, and Nova M. The problem is, they just don’t invest in the stations at the local level because it will hurt their other investments.

    The stations that do invest in local programming and wattage improvements and promotions are really taking off.

    Let’s see, the Conservatives have talk radio, and half of the Internet. And the Authoritarians want to control that, so that there is no way to escape the message we are supposed to hear.

    Actually, that is what we have NOW. What progressives are asking is that the airwaves be open to all, not controlled by one or two companies.

    I certainly don’t want to get rid of Conservative talk. I also don’t want to be required to give the opposing view on my station or radio show. I have yet to talk to any progressive radio host that WANTS the Fairness Doctrine to return. Everyone in the industry is against it. EVERYONE. But you wouldn’t know that by listening to Rush or Sean. They will continue to spout the lie that those of us in the industry want to see a return.

    What we want to see is a restriction on ownership and a restriction from the creation of an oligonopoly. Letting the market decide is a great slogan, but in order for that tho work, the market has to be able to make the choices, NOT the supplier dictating them to you.

    It would be a whole different story if the airwaves didn’t belong to all of us. But they do, and because of that, there needs to be some regulations on the usage.

    Now, lying under oath about what he did with it ia another matter . . .

    AND

    You left out “To a Grand Jury” in there, Wil.

    Gee, and when Scooter Libby got convicted of doing it you felt that was “over the top”, “excessive”, “not a crime”, ect.

    Howzabout we start another Open Post, Dave? Whan they get over 200 comments, they start to get a tiny bit unwieldy.

    Okay.

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    Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.


    Cornell? There’s bastion of democracy if I ever heard one…/ sarcasm

    And that all somehow translates into the “Media” is responsibile for keeping the Government in check exactly how?

    I fully understand the intent of those words, and no it is not to be read into like you and the rest of the liberal establishment seem to be so fond of doing with your “living document” tripe.

    And that is EXACLTY what your post asserts; that we are to try and read into what the founders had in mind, or worse via the “living document ” blather change it at whim and make a square peg fit into a round hole when we don’t like what we see or it doesnt fit our agendas.

    …Carefull there Deej, yer strawman is getting a wee bit close to the fire …another missive like that and he’s going to look like your avatar.