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Obama defends foreign policy statements

Democratic Barack Obama on Thursday defended controversial foreign policy statements he’s made recently, saying presidential candidates must challenge conventional Washington thinking.

“My call for a new foreign policy is based on the same thing that informed my opposition to the war in Iraq: common sense, not conventional Washington thinking,” Obama said. “I’m running on my judgment and I’ll tell the American people where I stand.”

That would be the same common sense displayed in your statement about invading a foreign country? Back to the new Cut and Run over the horizon foreign policy now? Your judgment stance is suspiciously like that of J. “still waiting for his service record” Fuckin’ Kerry’s. I’ll invade Pakistan, but run away from Iraq and make sure we stop bombing all those RPG equipped civilians in Afghanistan.

Speaking before about 250 people at a Council Bluffs school, Obama said critics have ignored his vow to work cooperatively with Pakistan and that his call for negotiations with hostile foreign leaders was only common sense.

Perhaps because “negotiations” with foreign (hostile) leaders isn’t such a good idea as well as lacking common sense. Poor B. Hussein, being ignored, perhaps if you hold your breath, we’ll start paying attention.

Obama has come under fire from Democratic rivals, including New York Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton, and Republicans, who accuse him of being naive about foreign policy. They point to recent statements in which Obama has said he would be willing to send U.S. military forces into Pakistan to rout terrorists even without the permission of the Pakistani government and that he was willing to meet with the leaders of rogue nations without preconditions.

Note to B. Dumbo: The internet is forever. You can’t run away from statements now matter how hard you try. You didn’t really think the Hildebeast Cankled one was going to give you a free ride did you?

“I am not afraid of losing a propaganda battle to a bunch of dictators,” Obama said Thursday.

It’s not a matter of losing the propaganda battle you clue-bereft hack. Merely agreeing to meet with them is a big score for the enemy, getting the weak U.S. to the table with no preconditions as well. You really need to write that on the board 50 times, OK?

He also said he would always work with Pakistan and simply was stating his commitment to ensure that terrorists not have a safe haven.

Nice try, pull the other finger. See above. This is the big leagues Barack, not T-Ball. No do-overs, sorry.

Obama argued that extensive foreign policy experience doesn’t always lead to good decisions, and he used Vice President Dick Cheney’s tenure as an example.

Cheney has more foreign policy experience in his left big-toe nail than you’ll ever have snot-weasel. Perhaps you should study his resume before spewing the Kos-Kiddie Eeevil Cheney talking point.

“I think it’s time to turn the page on conventional foreign policy thinking,” the Illinois senator said. “What they lacked was good judgment.”

Obama also blamed the Iraq war on conventional Washington thinking and challenged rivals to a full and open debate over their differences on foreign policy.

OK everybody let’s say it one more time, out loud. The Bush foreign policy is based on fighting terrorism and asymmetric warfare by unconventional means and on multiple fronts, militarily, economically and to some extent diplomatically. We’ll give you the Sesame Street version, it’s better to kill bad guys where they live than where you live, especially since they’ve already done it here.

He devoted much of his remarks to underscoring his differences with Clinton, including her 2002 vote to authorize the use of force in Iraq.

“After all, the war in Iraq wasn’t cooked up by folks in Council Bluffs,” said Obama. “It was authorized by politicians in Washington who said they knew better. And if that’s what conventional thinking on foreign policy amounts to, conventional thinking has to change.”

Did they know “better” before, when they voted or afterwards? I do recall they voted in favor of the war, therefore “knowing better” after the fact is the answer. Can you say perceived political expediency?`

In his first term in the Senate, Obama has sought to use his inexperience as an advantage, arguing that Clinton and other candidates are creatures of Washington and not capable of pushing for real change. On Thursday, he again pointed to his new approach to foreign policy.

“Think of what we can achieve together if we change the conventional thinking that’s squandering America’s reputation in the world,” said Obama. “We can have a foreign policy that the American people are proud of and set an example of leadership that inspires not hate, but hope, in forgotten corners of the world.”

Yes of course, America is much more about reputation than national security. As long as the Iranians, North Koreans, Cuba and every other socialist or Euroweenie country loves us, we can all fly kites and prance with unicorns, in between group hugs. Meanwhile, back here at home, the murderous, mohammedan mutt-fuckers are free to maim and kill wherever they please. Spare us the vision of “hope” Obama. Our enemies fully intend to kill or subjugate us all.

Conventional thinking tells (most of) us, that if an enemy has repeatedly demonstrated his desire and ability to murder innocents, it’s best to kill them firstest and fastest and in their own shitholes, not on our streets.

Cue the two-step music.

13 Responses to “Flip Floppin’ With Barack”
  1. B.C., Imperial Torturer™ Comment by B.C., Imperial Torturer™

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    Firstest and fastest. :twisted:

  2. LC Mrs. M-ITT™ Comment by LC Mrs. M-ITT™

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    Obama has sought to use his inexperience as an advantage

    Only a total shit-for-brains asshat would consider inexperience in matters of Foreign Policy an advantage. I guess that means he won’t bother to ask for lube first when our enemies screw him six ways to Sunday. :em41:

  3. Unregistered Comment by nerbygirl

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    I can just see it now:

    President Barrack Osama Bin-bama.
    The leader who handed our country over to the poor, misunderstood terrorists.

    Anyone who votes for this fool is a complete idiot. Sadly, many Americans are.

  4. maxxdog Comment by maxxdog

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    He is toast! Too bad actually. Shillery can concentrate on ‘08 now and not spend a lot of time or money going after this doofus.

  5. DJ Allyn,  ITW Comment by DJ Allyn, ITW

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    It’s not a matter of losing the propaganda battle you clue-bereft hack. Merely agreeing to meet with them is a big score for the enemy, getting the weak U.S. to the table with no preconditions as well. You really need to write that on the board 50 times, OK?

    I don’t know why you people always seem to think that negotiation and compromise somehow translates to capitulation and surrender.

    Yes, they might consider it to be a “big score” just to talk to us. So what? Not talking seems to be causing many more problems. At least when you are talking, you aren’t fighting.

    As far as going into Pakistan, that is the frustration that MANY people are feeling. We know that Al Qaeda, and most likely Osama bin Laden escaped into the mountains of Pakistan, and they wonder why we just didn’t go after them.

    You know, the tough talk about “yer either with us or with the terrorists” routine…

    Of course it isn’t quite as simple as that.

    The area we are talking about has thwarted every army since Alexander.

    But Obama is right, we should have been focusing on Afghanistan and Pakistan all along, and not wasted our time and energy going after Saddam. He would have imploded on his own by now if we would have just kept things the way they were.

    We could have actually made a difference in Afghanistan if we would have pumped as much effort, time, and material there as we have in Iraq. We could have made THAT country the model for the rest of the region.

    Instead, we have an Afghan president who controls almost an entire city in the country while the Taliban and war lords are in control of the rest of the country, producing record crops of poppy so that Europe and America can now enjoy cheap heroin.

  6. B.C., Imperial Torturer™ Comment by B.C., Imperial Torturer™

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    Wow, Dave. I almost don’t know what to say about that “cut & paste” little screed directly from the Demented Underachievers. (Perhaps it KosTard land? Or did you pull a cue card from Randi Rhodes’ archive?)

    Yes, they might consider it to be a “big score” just to talk to us. So what?

    Apparently you haven’t paid much attention the history of negotiations with tyrants & genocidal maniacs. Legitimizing their regimes through senseless & pointless “diplomatic negotiations” gives them the “street cred” with their followers to continue doing what they’ve been doing to their oppressed populations.

    How many times do your idiotic fellow travelers trot out the old “Rumsfeld shaking hands with Saddam!” meme? We’ve “negotiated” with him (and a string of other tyrants) over the years and all it’s gotten us is the hatred of the “indigenous oppressed people” for all of our efforts.

    Negotiation for the sake of negotiation is a pointless and, most often, a suicidal endeavor. It allows the enemy time to fortify their position, whether it be through alliances with other enemies or by building up their armaments and/or number of trained soldiers. (Ask the Israelis how these last few decades of “good faith negotiations” have lessened the threat to their existence.) How many more hundreds of millions of people died throughout the world because the EUnuchs & Soviets negotiated with Hitler, instead of taking him out when they had a chance? Neville Chamberlain would be a god in today’s LefTardian Asshatemic™ circles.

    As far as going into Pakistan, that is the frustration that MANY people are feeling. We know that Al Qaeda, and most likely Osama bin Laden escaped into the mountains of Pakistan,…

    Osama is a greasy stain on the inside of a cave, Dave. He was almost as much of a camera whore as Jesse “Shakedown” Jackson, Al “Ace of Race” Sharpton. It wouldn’t fit his ego to go “cold turkey” and leave the glory of Jihadi Anti-American Idol™ to his lowly minions.

    … and they wonder why we just didn’t go after them.

    They” being “you and your retarded friends on the Left“. You (and everyone here) know for a FACT that the spittle-flecked fucktards on the Left would STILL be screaming “Illeeeegal Invasion!” if we’d have gone, full bore, into the Pakistani hinterlands and killed every last warlord in that festering shithole.

    I still say we should have turned the place into a nice, level radioactive soccer field future generations of kids to play & romp upon. Remember, we’re all about Teh Chiiiilren™.

    But Obama is right, we should have been focusing on Afghanistan and Pakistan all along,…

    You might want to ask all of those coalition soldiers & airmen what they’ve been doing over there since 2001, before besmirching their heroic work by saying that no one is “focusing” on the problem. Apparently you’ve been blinded by BDS to actually pay attention to the of Jihadis that have been (and continue to be) killed over the last six years…

    …and not wasted our time and energy going after Saddam.

    While he and his demon spawn, Dirt & Nap, continued merrily raping & murdering their way through the Iraqi population.

    He would have imploded on his own by now if we would have just kept things the way they were.

    Utter and complete bullshit, Dave. The maintaining of the status quo in Iraq was one of the reasons I, and many of my fellow GWI vets, got out of the military. We saw that there was never going to be an end to the murdering of innocents in Iraq and that we would be on a perpetual cycle of rotations into and out of Shoddy Retardia, while Sod’em & the Useless Nitwits continued to line their pockets.

    Remember, The Great UN Oiiiiil For Dead Iraqi Children™ scandal wasn’t discovered until AFTER the Babylonian Butcher of Baghdad™ was taken out. Also, remember that the LefTards were the ones screaming the loudest about ENDING the sanctions that they NOW say “would have worked to peacefully topple Sod’em and his henchmen”.

    Jeebus. Trying to keep up with the LefTards’ moving the goalposts is mind-numbing work.

    We could have actually made a difference in Afghanistan if we would have pumped as much effort, time, and material there as we have in Iraq. We could have made THAT country the model for the rest of the region.

    Instead, we have an Afghan president who controls almost an entire city in the country while the Taliban and war lords are in control of the rest of the country, producing record crops of poppy so that Europe and America can now enjoy cheap heroin.

    Again, you might want to actually talk to some of the soldiers and airmen, who have worked incredibly hard to make life better in that shithole for average Afghanis, before denigrating the progress that’s been made there. I’m trying my hardest not to just dismiss anything and everything you ever say again and just write you off as just another BDS-suffering assnugget. (I really get angry when ignorant assholes belittle the incredible progress that’s been made by the coalition troops in Crapcanistan and you’re pushing the envelope of my patience.)

    I’ll leave you to your DeadAir America-fed delusions and go enjoy my Saturday now.

  7. B.C., Imperial Torturer™ Comment by B.C., Imperial Torturer™

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    Ah fuck. I just lost an entire hour’s worth of Fisking that little screed by Dave. Fuck it. I’m not re-typing that.

    Update: I found it in the spam catcher! See? Even us Imperial Minions™ get sucked into the Spam Sponge™ once in a while.

  8. Sir Guido Cabrone, LC, M.o.P. Comment by Sir Guido Cabrone, LC, M.o.P.

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    The area we are talking about has thwarted every army since Alexander.

    I don’t recall Tamerlane having all that many problems…

  9. Beth* A. Comment by Beth* A.

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    B.C., *Applause*

    Niiiiicccce. :em69:

    He would have imploded on his own by now if…We could have actually made a difference in Afghanistan if…we should have been focusing on Afghanistan and Pakistan all along,…

    Woulda, coulda, shoulda. We are in Iraq. We needed to be in Iraq. We must finish the job we started there.

    Is the concept of ‘face’ not a HUGE part of most eastern cultures?, (and no small potatoes over on this side of the globe, either.) 99.98% of the time, negotiating with terrorists and their supporters, e.g. the groups who embrace wholeheartedly inflicting maximum suffering and fear as their reason for jumping out of bed each morning, and those who rush to kneel before them to put their bunny slippers on, is baaaddd. Doesn’t work. Leads to more terror. Lather, rinse, repeat.

    The only thing that makes .02% work, btw, is negotiation from a position of perceived strength. THEIR perception, not ours.

  10. Beth* A. Comment by Beth* A.

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    JB, Fine post. (Meant to say that before :em41: )

    You and your muse seem to have come to a meeting of the minds - - either that, or you hornswaggled the sumbitch :em58: and left it tied up in a corner courtesy of Duct tape, leaving you to get on with your writing in peace.

    Whichever, it’s all good!

  11. Unregistered Comment by Azygos

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    Obama in Mexico That the same Obama who sings this?

    Might convince the American people better if he were to sing God Bless America in English

  12. Unregistered Comment by leoni2, LC

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    I sometimes wonder what Obama’s handlers are thinking every time he put his foot in his mouth when it comes to foreign policy? Probably, ‘Will someone please tell him to stop talking off the cuff and follow the damn playbook?’

  13. LC HJ Caveman82952 Comment by LC HJ Caveman82952

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    Maalox, probably.