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Senate Republicans Grow A Pair
Posted by: Emperor Misha I in Democrat Arses, Good News, Politics12:32 PM
…and about time it was too.
Harry “Oil Makes Me Sick” Screed was planning on pulling a House Kommissar Pelousy and blocking any sort of vote on lifting the off-shore drilling ban, thus doing his part to keep prices sky high at the pump and American working families struggling.
Unfortunately for him and his totalitarian ambitions (a majority of Americans are in favor of drilling and doing so NOW), the usually dickless dorks on the Republican side finally managed to locate their testicles and came up with a brilliant idea: “Until we get a vote on drilling, nothing else is going to get voted on because we’ll block every last motherfucking one of your bills. Period.”
It’s a thing of beauty, we tell you. Now Harry “Let ‘Em Starve” Screed can either allow the vote or continue to be a saboteur willfully torpedoing the economy where more and more families are feeling the thumbscrews. Either way, he’s fucked. If he stalls, the Democrats Communists will have to explain to the voters (did we mention that a majority of them are in FAVOR of drilling?) why they don’t want them to have jobs and be able to put food on the table and if he allows the vote and manages to whip all 51 Democrats Communists into voting against, then they’ll still have to explain the same thing.
Should play out nicely in November.
In a way it’s funny, really. The Democrats Communists desperately need for the economy to be hurting in November so they can play their usual “freebies for everyone” card, which is really all that they have, but, at the same time, it’s becoming obvious to everyone that the main reason the economy is ailing at all is that the Democrats Communists are doing everything in their power to make it so.
We believe that’s known as “a backstabbing coming back to bite you in the arse.”
The only thing that can go wrong, as far as we can tell, is for the normally feckless noodlespined Republicans to lose their nerve and back down which, sadly, is a very real possibility. They’re not exactly known for their principles or courage under fire. But if they, for once in their worthless lives, decide to stand fast, then they just can’t lose.
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The great compromiser McVain is busy on the campaign trail, so the Senate Republicans don’t have a cranky old man nagging them to reach across the ailse.
July 24th, 2008 at 12:38 PMUsing
I agree with Misha and DJ. Let both sides grow a pair and let the chips fall where they may. I believe if Congress removes all barriers to drilling, the price will go down. Moreover, if and when we do drill for all we have, that will certainly reduce our need for oil from foreign sources in the future. I don’t see that as a bad thing.
July 24th, 2008 at 12:51 PMUsing
deej, seriously man. Leave that medical marijuana card in your wallet. You’re embarrassing yourself.
Put down the hooka hose!
Step away from the bong and that hopeychangyfogginess will clear up!
July 24th, 2008 at 12:56 PMUsing
I’d much rather they be backing the Dems up against the wall and getting the damn taxes knocked off. THAT would make an IMMEDIATE difference. Feds are sucking the life out of us on every damn thing we buy and use anyway. Not like they are going to miss what they are lapping up on fuel taxes. Just because they are all sucking Al Gore’s stubby dick over Gorebal Wormening doesn’t mean they should be taxing the life out of us just to turn around and spend it all on fucking pork.
July 24th, 2008 at 1:01 PMUsing
DJ, you and I live in the same state. After Bush’s executive order allowing drilling, I saw a precipitous drop in the prices at the pump…and that was without out lifting the Congressional impediment to drilling. I’m fairly certain that if we drop that block, and then if we actually drill, the difference will be marked and obvious to even the most ravenously drooling Obamazombie.
July 24th, 2008 at 1:02 PMUsing
Well, we know where 90 BILLION barrels of oil are.
90 billion barrels.
Technically recoverable.
Where’s a bullshit flag when you really need it?
July 24th, 2008 at 1:08 PMUsing
Republicans blocking 80 something bills eh? Like the save the sea lion bill right… yeah thats a priority issue right now… Doesnt matter, yesterday Reid announced he was going to package ALL of the bills into what he titled the COBURN OMNIBUS package. Take a moment to look at the titles of some of these “bills” and weigh them (as a priority issue) against the need to begin addressing WHAT THE PEOPLE WANT ADDRESSED RIGHT NOW.
Hey …. fucknuggets in congress…. When the people say JUMP…its your fucking job to jump! Not play out your bullshit political agenda based on a upcoming election. WE SAY JUMP… YOU FUCKING JUMP…. WE TELL YOU… NOT YOU TELL US. GOT IT?
I swear if they dont start getting thier shit together Im going to have to start actually doing what the dog says to do.
July 24th, 2008 at 1:39 PMUsing
Same Ole Shit….. different day…..
To say that just the very idea of the US producing its own oil doesnt or wouldnt have a impact on the “speculators” is nonsense. And what I mean by the word “impact” is it would cause prices to lower.
Evil Oil, Evil Oil, say it like a mantra……. who exactly are these evil oil companies that you speak? Who owns them? Are they majority US based? If they arent US companies is it your position that our current government has sold out to foreign oil companies? Or have they sold out to just the US ones?
yada yada yada yada….
July 24th, 2008 at 1:52 PMUsing
O
K
deej.
And all that wet stuff on the ground up there in The Great Northwest Moonbat Breeding Grounds™ isn’t from rain, it’s the drool coming off all you liberals.
Is thorazine free up there?
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July 24th, 2008 at 2:02 PMUsing
Well, either there is (significant) speculation going on, or there isn’t. The price drop on a symbolic change by the President looks to me like there is a good chance that is so. The Democrat House leadership have been blaming the high prices on evil speculators until a few days ago, now it isn’t so? My goodness, history changes fast these days.
In either case, the price will drop. If speculators are behind this, then producing more will burn them good, as their bank accounts go empty trying to buy up oil to keep the prices high.
If it is a pure case of supply and demand, and there is a demand for 1 million more barrels per day than is being produced, then producing that million will drop the price, and not just a penny or two. A few percent one way or another will produce wide price swings.
There are capped wells off California that could be producing in months if the laws were changed.
My final thought is that gridlock in Congress is almost never a bad thing. :em93: That goes for whichever party is nominally in charge.
July 24th, 2008 at 2:13 PMUsing
Of course they are just sitting on them for the hell of it….or would it be because they AREN’T ALLOWED TO DRILL without Congress dicking around with whether to allow drilling, and every Envirowacko Gaea Nazi group filing lawsuit after fucking lawsuit to stop them?
July 24th, 2008 at 2:15 PMUsing
Well I must say I like the idea of backing as many Democrats againt a wall as possible…….not to make them vote you understand…… That being said the only thing we can really do is vote at every level against everyone of the commie vermin no matter if they claim to be conservatives or blue dogs or whatever the hell the traitorus scum call themselves to sucker idiots into voting for them. They must be revmoved at all levels from goverment and along with them must go RINOs like McCain or Snow. Don’t ever “vote for the man” that is how we got into this mess. Primary them the hell out. Findout who you local pols are and vote or run against the dems at all levels. AND NEVER “vote for the man” even if he is your best friend if he is a socialist he is your enemy period…
July 24th, 2008 at 2:24 PMUsing
which experts? wolf blitzer and the rest of the obama proppers?
Deej, I’m part owner of a few small oil wells in Colorado….and have been watching the markets pretty damned closely lately. It’s more that a coincidence that the financial markets started bouncing back after the executive order was lifted…..every “expert” that I’ve talked to, and they’re ones who work in the industry, they say that just the intent of opening up drilling….on VIABLE land….not on dry land leased to the oil companies by the BLM and Interior Dept….is enough to influence prices long term.
Hell, let’s ask the resident industry expert here….
SoCalOilman…..any opinions here? :em02:
July 24th, 2008 at 2:29 PMUsing
,,And just what would make a speculator estimate a lower future value for a product?
Certainly not the prospect of more product availability.. as the speech would lead one to believe.
‘Course, the dems could win and the recent spike would look like a splinter when they crap on the whole idea for simply not being a quick-enough fix.
If I had a couple of those GI roaches you’ve had layin’ around Deej, maybe I could understand how not drilling will help lower the prices within the same ‘quick-enough’ period demanded by the, well, you know who.
,,whoamIkidding,, it’d take a lot more than a couple of roaches to understand that.
July 24th, 2008 at 2:35 PMUsing
Oh yeah……
can you say Government shutdown? remember what that did to Newt and the boys in the 90’s…… The GOP better be prepared to fight this battle more vigorously that they have in the past. There’s a lot of voters out there who cringe at the thought of the nanny staters not being able to supply them with free money, food, and housing, and medical care…..The MSM obama strokers will play this all the way to election day, i.e. “Do you want more of the same do nothing govt or do you want change?”
this could be a catastrophic campaign issue for the Repubs if not played right, I have my doubts that they are that smart.
July 24th, 2008 at 2:36 PMUsing
From the news story I linked to:
Sounds like that’s actually recoverable oil up there in the Arctic.
So let’s do nothing? For the Children? My children, who’s looking at a future of a Obamarx regime that will make the totalitarianism of Stalin, Hitler, and Pol Pot seem like a walk in the park.
For the environment? When regimes in China and India are firing up coal burning power plants every week?
When folks like Al Gore, Pelosi, Huffington, and their ilk are only walking from their SUV’s to their private jets?
You drink the kool-aid if you want, DJ, but don’t invite me to your pity party.
July 24th, 2008 at 2:44 PMUsing
Drink? Are you kidding me?
deej speedballs that shit. He’s got more track marks than Richard Pryor!!!!
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July 24th, 2008 at 2:59 PMUsing
Nope, sorry you’re wrong on that one DJ, I thought the same thing up until I got into a discussion over on the BobO files…
And did some research.
100% Of the oil coming out of Prudhoe Bay is refined in CA …. The practice used to be to sell a small amount of it to Japan and other Asian Countries, but what I found says that practice ended in 2000 (?) when one law or the other expired. I’d have to go back and find those articles.
Hope that works for you….make sure they are a good shop, NG can wreck havoc on a poorly tuned and overly rich set up, to include burnt pistons and valves which is gonna cost plenty to fix.
I know a lot of interest is starting to be generated on propane as a fuel now as well.
July 24th, 2008 at 3:13 PMUsing
Spoken like a true communist. “Free market? Free for me, not for thee!!!”
Way to keep those dollars here in America. Oh wait…. I converted my Expidition to this which was manufactured right here in the US and burns US gasoline.
FETE
July 24th, 2008 at 3:15 PMUsing
Here’s something that should be burned into ClueBats™ the size of Babe Ruth’s legendary piece of lumber and imprinted, vigorously and with much enthusiasm, onto the foreheads of every LiberIdiot™ in the nation.
Dave, just wait a few months and Sir George will be back and posting on the results of something that, if all works out the way he hopes it does, will have your fellow Marxists jumping off buildings and bridges when they realize that there’s no way in Hell that they’re going to be able to block the energy source that he’s testing out on a small scale. (Here’s a hint: We’ll be able to produce a gallon of gas and sell it for about $1.00 and it involves no Eeeevil Oiiiiil™.)
BTW, why do your moronic LefTardian friends hate Native Americans so much that they’d rather them starve than to be able to make use of THEIR natural resources?
July 24th, 2008 at 3:32 PMUsing
That’s one hell of a bodyman you have to be able to complete that conversion. :em95:
Seriously, nice Victory. I have a Harley FXRS-Sp that is currently in pieces (it has 250K on it, so it has a good excuse) and a Suzuki GS-850G that needs a back tire.
July 24th, 2008 at 3:32 PMUsing
Thank, but it’s a V-Star 1100 Classic. 51 mpg. :em95:
July 24th, 2008 at 3:42 PMUsing
BC, are you referring to coal gassification?
July 24th, 2008 at 3:42 PMUsing
LC Ranger 6
‘Hope you gotta sweet little ‘P’ to go on that teeny little pad!
OR, is this your solo?
Whatever,, it ain’t ‘zackly written in the advertising, but those things can end a dry spell too!
July 24th, 2008 at 3:46 PMUsing
I smell a t-shirt and some bumber stickers!!!!!!!
July 24th, 2008 at 3:49 PMUsing
I need to get the larger seat with a sissy bar, but actually that pad isn’t all that small. My wife forced me to get a $1,000,000 life insurance policy before my ass could actually make contact with it and she claims she’ll never get on it. (we’ll see). :em93:
July 24th, 2008 at 3:52 PMUsing
Hell, it’s about time the GOP found its ‘nads and used them, hell, put ‘em up againdt the wall and make ‘em show their true colors, every shade of piss yellow, to be exact! DJ, the GOP blocking legislation? My cats cough up hairballs smarter than that! Can you say Judicial Emergencies? There are shortages of Federal Judges in many places in the USA, creating a big backlog of federal cases, and it’s because the chickenshit pissbucket asswipe libs keep blocking the President’s judicial nominees!! It’s been going on for years, so lay off the kool-aid, it’s given you some serious memory loss and possible brain damage! :em02:
July 24th, 2008 at 4:13 PMUsing
Having trouble gettin’ her on it?
July 24th, 2008 at 4:15 PMPush the ‘territorial’ button: let her see some sweet young thang noticing it,.n’ mebbe you.
And,,later, if she’s still around:
A lumbar pad might look a bit luggish, but if you adjust it a bit, confidence follows comfort.
‘Seen it work,, :em69:
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Ranger 6 Just have her sit on it (the bike) in the driveway, and rev the engine a few times……. have her close her eye’s so she can “imagine” the wind in her hair, feeling the power of the iron “HORSE” as it pulses under her. …. She’ll be ready for a ride in no time :em93:
July 24th, 2008 at 4:39 PMUsing
Oops, when you said American I thought Victory since it didn’t look like a Harley.
July 24th, 2008 at 4:48 PMUsing
Yeah. Still waiting on word about the T-shirts and bumper stickers for the “Just Drill, DAMMIT!” campaign…
July 24th, 2008 at 5:01 PMUsing
Look at what DJ just said here. I highlighted the “money quote”. I’m telling you, he’s more one of us than you seem to think folks. Yeah, he’s got some of that hopeychangeyness, but he’s got some wisdom.
BC are you speaking of that wonderful bacterial conversion of plant waste to petrol?
Not a good part.
July 24th, 2008 at 5:36 PMUsing
Came out almost the way I wanted it to after all. Thanks for the edit function back Deej!
was how that last line SHOULD have looked though.
July 24th, 2008 at 5:45 PMUsing
Um, I may off-base here, but wouldn’t more oil on the open market lower prices? The way I see it, it doesn’t matter if the oil we recover here is used here or not; the simple influx of more oil on the market would drive down the price anyways.
July 24th, 2008 at 6:31 PMIt was said that we would sell it overseas anyway; um, as I understand it, we are at 100% refining capacity as it is…no new refineries have been built here in 30+ years. How would it be refined? Do we stack up supertankers one behind the other out on the open seas? We would also need to build new refineries, something the green saliva-droolers would no doubt block at every opportunity.
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Sen. Barack Obama scrapped plans to visit wounded members of the armed forces in Germany as part of his overseas trip, a decision his spokesman said was made because the Democratic presidential candidate thought it would be inappropriate on a campaign-funded journey.
OT but thought you’d like to know :em12:
July 24th, 2008 at 6:36 PMUsing
See “Filthy Peasant” thread Jaybear. :em93:
July 24th, 2008 at 6:43 PMUsing
He saved some wear n’ tear on his security details suits by ducking Ramstein..
‘Got friends that work at Landstuhl,, it can get,, sticky. Reality is like that.
They’re very busy folks, unstoppable, very dedicated,
They’ll welcome you off the transport “You’re in Landstuhl,,, they SAY his/her name,,,and we’re going to take care of you,,”
They are totally dedicated to their mission,, unlike o’bo..
and there’s always someone around edgy enough to say something that’d be sure to make him cry.
‘Just watched his speech in Berlin,,
All that was missing was some appropriate background score.
July 24th, 2008 at 6:59 PMUsing
That’d be good advice for me too,, :em41:
July 24th, 2008 at 7:06 PMUsing
LC Ranger 6 sez:
oh…..
I was up with a sick dog all night, we got him back from minor surgery yesterday and he was out of sorts all night so he and I went down for a nap about 3 hours ago. I was awake for all of 15 mnutes when I posted that earlier. didn’t have all my shit lined up yet…….still don’t
that bitch still pisses me off though…..
and I’m not talking about my dawg
July 24th, 2008 at 7:06 PMUsing
Cheapshot,
My psycho ex spent 14 days in the psych lockdown at Landstuhl back in the early 90s. Edgy didn’t begin to describe those people. It was more like “shut the fuck up or I will jam an IV in your ass and replace your blood with thorazine”. First time since I met her that she didn’t have some wiseass comeback.
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Those guys ROCK!!!
July 24th, 2008 at 7:11 PMUsing
That’s kinda what I didn’t realllly want to say, ‘glad you did,,, ‘just bein’ careful what words I put in Sir Lanceyerass’s mouth.
They are no doubt a big part of the reason illegal aliens have managed to kill more Americans than the taliban.
They snatch that many folks right out of deaths vestpocket.
July 24th, 2008 at 8:18 PMUsing
Hmmm…a couple of days ago, I made reference to a previous thread that had been posted to death, and I got *admonished* about how we often repeat threads on here, and it’s okay to do so.
So when does Ranger 6 get the same *admonition*?
Jus’ curious, is all.
July 24th, 2008 at 10:23 PMUsing
WhOAH! Hold on here a minute…. (let me get my admonishin britches on)
Now Lookee here Ranger 6! You just considered yourself admonished from this moment forward! You got that sir? You have been officially admonished and have been duly notified of same. I hereby present you with this medal of admonishment. Now go forth and wear your admonishment with pride.
Did I cover that good enough for ya Skye ? :em93: He’s been admonsihed for sure now!
July 24th, 2008 at 10:31 PMUsing
That’ll work, centurion. After all, fair’s fair, dontcha know. :em93:
July 24th, 2008 at 10:38 PMUsing
Deej,
You are deluding yourself about what effect lifting the drilling ban will have. Within about 3 days after the president lifted the executive ban, gas dropped by over ten cents around here. In total it has dropped by roughly 15 cents to date.
July 24th, 2008 at 11:05 PMUsing
<moonbat>Now I believe that I have covered this in the past and have rectified my position such that modification of the facts are not the issue and that there are factors that have not been brought to light that I have previously clarified using the standards that are accepted by the majority of the body considered to hold the prevailing view. Those of you opposed to this obviously do not understand said view and need to educate yourselves on the values and views held by the world body that I am referring to.</moonbat>
The rest of you can fuck off.
July 25th, 2008 at 12:11 AMUsing
Roger that … permission to fuck off received…. going into fuck off mode now…. Im a veritable fuck off expert…. I got fuckin off down to a fine art. I can take a day, and turn it into a fuck off masterpiece.
July 25th, 2008 at 12:20 AMUsing
Troy and Ranger 6…
Knock it off you wiseasses before I pee on myself. :em01: :em99: :em01: :em99: :em01:
July 25th, 2008 at 12:49 AMUsing
Sorry Ma’am. In this state You’ll need a marriage license for that.
July 25th, 2008 at 12:56 AMUsing
Oh it very well may still be in excess of 4 per gallon, seeing how the Dems seemingly are wanting to slap another 50 cents a gallon tax on gas.
Nothing like a self fulfilling prophecy now is there ?
July 25th, 2008 at 12:59 AMUsing
That’s the great thing about taxing an inelastic good. Demand won’t go down, because most every-damn-body (except you and your buddy, DJ) needs it to function as a contributing member of society. You can tax consumption of alcohol and tobacco into oblivion (theoretically), but consumption of gasoline? Not until we have a widespread alternative to gasoline. And no DJ, CNG is not that widespread yet. Perhaps it will be, and that will certainly help things.
Building 30 pebble-bed nuclear reactors and using their waste heat to help electrolyze hydrogen? That actually might help us even more, if we can just tackle the problem of keeping the damn stuff contained.
Until then? The spice must flow.
July 25th, 2008 at 2:14 AMUsing
Now if we can just get those damned
Communistssand worms to stop blocking every attempt we make at getting at our own damned spice, we wouldn’t have to be depending on Baron Harkonen Ibn Saud and paying out the ass for it!BTW, Dave, exactly what by-products (gases) are released into the atmosphere when CNG goes through the combustion process? If one of them is CO2, you’re still part of “Teh Problem of Glow Bull
July 25th, 2008 at 6:57 AMWormingClimate Change (In One Direction or Another)”.Using
Two people. Pelosi and Reid. Thwarting the will of the people and the Congress. Them’s some fucked-up parlementarian rules right there, I don’t care who you are.
July 25th, 2008 at 8:02 AMUsing
At least the folks at the DNI are tired of getting kicked around, demanding an accounting for the NYTalibans slander.
July 25th, 2008 at 8:06 AMUsing
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July 25th, 2008 at 10:18 AMUsing
Testing…
July 25th, 2008 at 12:15 PMUsing
DJ, damned glad to hear you’re doing better. :em69: :em69:
I read somewhere that NG has an octane rating of around 104 - 106, while regular no-lead is 88 octane, and premium is 92 - 94 octane. There’s your extra pep, you’re running stuff closer to racing gas now.
Being able to fuel up at home is pretty cool, but how’s the “out and about” refueling situation?? If you go on a trip that will require you to refuel before you get home, where do you get it??
And most importantly, how much does it cost/gallon??
It’s one thing to read the sales info, but I like to hear “from the horses mouth” real world user info. When I was in school, they converted the buses to LPG/gasoline to help during the crunch in the 70’s. We had some really long routes and had to have a back up fuel source in case the LPG ran out mid-run.
The biggest problem was the system to switch from one fuel to the other. There was several times a bus stalled out because the system failed to live up to the sales hype.
July 25th, 2008 at 2:22 PMUsing
Really?!?!??!? That simply AMAZING DAVE :em95: :em95: I’m going to convert my Monte over RIGHT NOWWWW……ER wait ….. * :em98: moonbat mode ….off *. Okay, whew …that’s better.
If CNG is running at a 30% fuel efficiency you really aren’t gaining anything over any conventional gasoline other than due to the price of gas lower cost of operation and okay..I’l give it to you…reduced emissions. I’d like to see the actual results of a sniffer test between the two engines tho.
In any modern fuel injected mill, on a fuel used to work performed (other wise known as driving) ratio they generally run o %. efficiency at idle (0 because no work is being accomplished by the engine as it burns fuel) and peak somewhere near 30 % at around 75% of usable RPM.
This is why the 55mph Idea by Guv’ner Warner of VA is a bunch of hooey, any modern engine today runs better and is more energy efficient at higher speed.
Diesels like my Cummings 6.7L BlueTec are slightly better in this area than gas or CNG / LPG due to higher compression ratios and they do not run at high RPM. Mine red lines at 3200 RPM. But going into that an explaining it all is a bit long winded.
Sorry, but thats the way a modern 4 stroke internal combustion engine works regardless of the fuel source.
Not to slam subject matter around too much but heres a pet peeve of mine…Want to really make a change in your gas / fuel consumption??…look to your right see that little thingy between the seats or on your dash that says P-R-N-D-3-2-1?
Scrap it, and use a manual 6 speed transmission.
I can attest to the fact that a 1995 Trans Am with a hyped up 5.7 L LS1 motor will in fact pull just about 30 Miles to a gallon Highway, running a very comfortable 75 MPH with the AC going …..imagine what a V-6 would pull? Or a Inline Four?
That same 6 speed in my T/A also had a nifty electronic lock out feature, unless you had the go fast pedal almost on the floor ..(which btw I generally used this driving method :em95: so my city mileage sucked goat balls… ahem) it would force a skip shift from 1st to 3rd gear, and by pass 2nd gear completely to help save fuel in the city.
But how many cars can you find that have a 6 speed manual?!?!?!?!…..not very many. Know why? Mostly because consumers are too darn lazy to pull their own gears and run a clutch.
That one simple thing the auto industry (no matter if it’s GM Ford Chrysler or an Import badge) SHOULD be forced to do and offer in every freaking car they sell but aren’t would improve mileage of a modern car by leaps and bounds. Automatic OD Transmissions are the biggest gas vampires ever invented.
Okay I’m off the soap box and back to making fun of Obambi…
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July 25th, 2008 at 4:37 PMUsing
jeeeezus…..and I thought my commute from Kirkland to Sea-Tac was a long one
July 25th, 2008 at 6:21 PMUsing
Dave, that’s all good a well, but you DO know that your brainless MoonBattian™ friends won’t let us drill for OIL OR NG, don’t you?
Also, I’ve asked this question of quite a number of EcoNazis and not a single one of them has ever been able to come up with anything better than “Uh, well… spit, sputter… NO DRILLING IN ANWR! NO NUKES! NO COAL!”…:
“Just how, pray tell, do you morons propose to generate enough electricity to power 200,000,000+ additional EcoCoffins™, when the power grid of the United States is already pushed to its limits by the fact that you fuckin’ idiots have blocked , and continue to block, the construction of any and all new nuclear and/or coal and/or petroleum-fired power plants?”
July 26th, 2008 at 9:38 AMUsing
Unicorn Farts! Mmmm no…Co2 will still be a problem….
Fairy dust ! Well No…. still too many partial emissions…..
Hook every last enviro-nazi latte sucking moon-bat in the country to a treadmill and flog their worthless asses like a 2 dollar mule…each treadmill turns a small 1000 watt generator….. EUREKA 11!!!11 It’s PERFECT! :em95:
July 26th, 2008 at 9:55 AMUsing
I just paid $3.88/gl. to fill up my ride this morning. That’s down from a high of $4.25/gl. a few weeks ago. Amazing what a little word of mouth can accomplish even with Turkeyvulture Pelosi standing in the way.
July 26th, 2008 at 12:51 PMUsing
ALL of the oil we can get our grubby mitts on. (For instance…)
We also need at least ten new refineries that can easily be located on old military reservations… :em04: Click here! :em04:
A pity there aren’t any genuine sources that fit the bill.
Oh please! Nuclear power should have been in our inventory since the Eighties. Pedal that “China Syndrome” crap elsewhere.
July 27th, 2008 at 12:16 AMUsing
Lots of opinion here.
Sorry about the delay, been busy raping Mother Gaea.
In the two days since this was originally posted, the price of oil has dropped steadily. Now as someone who gets their income from the price of oil I’m not overly happy, but I am a realist and realize $80-90/bbl. would be a realistic price. Something happened, and my opinion is that the rest of the world started to realize that we may be serious about “exploiting” our own natural resources.
Speculators throw their chicken bones and look at the projected future supply…more supply in the future…Yadda yadda.
Deej
Saw a news story on the CNG conversion a few days ago. You got one of those compressors working off the NG line in your garage to fill the tank over night? If I remember correctly, it worked out to around $0.40 per gallon. The drawback was the range, but if it gets you to and from where you need to go, why not?
I had a friend who worked for an oil company and they treated NG as a waste product. He converted his truck to NG and hadn’t spent a penny on gasoline in over two years.
As I stated before. I blow off projections of the life of a field they always underestimate the amount there (the first field I worked was suppose to be depleted in ‘72, I started working there in ‘78 and it would still be producing today if the new owners had more than one brain between the three of them). Most projections are fore optimal field production. The site then gets sold to a secondary producer, then a tertiary producer, and with the technology today, there’s lots more oil to pull out with a little revamping.
The site I work now, there were layers of oil that were bypassed and could be exploited today with the advanced slant drilling. My company is in escrow right now, and the new owners are planning on taking advantage of this.
Finally..new oil won’t solve the problem long term. It’ll just fill the gap until we can get other energy sources online, but taxing the hell out of oil companies to pay for the new technology won’t work. Big oil realizes that if they want to stay in business they are going to have to diversify. They need the capital to invest in order to do this.
July 27th, 2008 at 1:43 AMUsing
I said :
Deej replied with:
Who told you that? You better do some research, unless they put a fusion reactor under your hood there is NO way ANY 4 stroke Internal combustion engine will achieve 130% efficiency, it is physically impossible. The physics of such an engine will not allow for those numbers. Simply because of things like heat transfer, friction of moving internals, and other factors.
I will not argue that you may be gaining better mileage or that in fact your little Passat is now over all more efficient however, if this shop is touting those sorts of figures to get people to undertake a costly conversion costing thousands of dollars, they are lying. Period.
July 27th, 2008 at 3:30 AMUsing
That seems a bit petty dude. He mis-spoke, and attempted to correct it. I understood what he meant, he has had a 30% improvement in fuel consumption. I believe you’re picking on DJ simply because he’s him. Come on, man, give it a break.
July 27th, 2008 at 3:47 AMUsing
You obviously don’t understand my rebuttal. Engine efficiency and fuel consumption are two separate issues.
He has clearly stated that “it” is running at 130% efficiency which is nonsense and physically impossible. I’m translating the word “it” as his cars power-train, as that is the only logical “it” in the discussion.
Now if he’s claiming a 130% reduction in fuel consumption I’m still going to need to see some proof of that claim, as that would (roughly figured) result somewhere in an increase of the cars engine efficiency to the neighborhood of 50 plus percent, again an almost impossible
feat unless the engine is running at 75 % of it’s usable power rating and RPM and has forced induction with a compression ratio well over reliable limits.
Even a Jet Turbine does not achieve those sort of figures.
I’m picking on no one, I’m merely stating the facts as they are related to an internal combustion engine.
Furthermore if you read my post I asked him “Who” told him his “it” (engine) is running at 130% because if it is this shop that did the conversion for him at 3,000 plus dollars they are blowing smoke up his ass, and bilking people hooked on this whole environmental save the whales “mother gaia has a fe-vah” hype.
I also stated clearly that I would not argue he is probably getting better over mileage. Did I not?
My post is merely a discussion on the physics side of things and maybe a lesson to others that may consider a costly conversion of their cars based on frivolous advertising & numbers buy disreputable mechanics.
July 27th, 2008 at 5:46 AMUsing
Is a 130% even mathematically possible? I mean just from a therory point of view? Isnt 100% the max? Like the old coach who says …. “I want you to give 110%” Well i dont have 110% I have 100% and thats it, thats the full load so to speak. And I agree, I didnt find Chariotbuilders response overly argumentative , condescending, or derogatory.
but then again…. what the fuck do I know?……. nuthin
July 27th, 2008 at 9:33 AMUsing
Mheh… Now I want in too:
Me too! Because, mathematically speaking, a 130% reduction in fuel consumption would mean that the tank would fill up as you were driving :em93:
Now, all that and other misunderstandings aside, it’s also perfectly impossible for any engine to run on 130% efficiency since that would mean that you’re getting more energy out of it than you’re putting in. That’s not “merely” a perpetuum mobile, something that we’ve yet to come up with, that’s actually better.
What he meant was, I believe, that his efficiency had improved to 130% of what it was, which is possible as long as [previous efficiency in percent] * 1.3 < 100.
Mr. Smartarse Math Person hath spoken
July 27th, 2008 at 11:09 AMUsing
Or simply that he’s had a 30% improvement in fuel mileage, i.e. 30 mpg is now 39 mpg.
July 27th, 2008 at 11:58 AMUsing
Okay Einstein…LOL
Really alls I’m really driving at here is the last part of my diatribe….
And that is if they shops out there on the left coast and elsewhere are hooking people on a rather expensive conversion and do so by spitting out these types of “efficiency” numbers ….then they are ripping people off. Period. Like The old saying goes…There’s a sucker born every minute.
July 27th, 2008 at 12:03 PMUsing
Roger THAT part!
July 27th, 2008 at 12:39 PMUsing
Unleaded regular at Quiktrip in Springfield, Mo. 7/26; $3.51.9 sans ethanol.
July 28th, 2008 at 1:02 AMUnleaded regular at Lebanon, Mo. $3.69.9
Unleaded regular east of Crawford Co. $3.77.9
Go figure.
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