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Via LC & IB Mike, we learn that the Dalai Bama actually does have an energy plan beyond “inflate your tires properly, drive smaller cars and wait for the wind.”

Oh yes, he wants us to wait in the dark too:

Finally, I will call on businesses, government, and the American people to meet the goal of reducing our demand for electricity 15% by the end of the next decade.

No word on how, as Hot Air’s Cap’n Ed notes, that’s going to play with the Dalai Bama’s 150 mpg Miracle Plug-in Hybrid Cars That Are JUST AROUND THE CORNER NOW! Yeah, that and flying cars, dumbass. Where is our flying car, dammit?

Really now. Provided that the Dalai Bama’s fairy tale Wonder Cars ever do arrive, presumably after he waves his +5 Magic Wand of Technical Innovation (he IS The One™, after all), just how are we going to plug an estimated 250,000,000 passenger vehicles into the garage power outlet every night and reduce electricity usage by 15% at the same time?

Only the Dalai Bama knows.

This is by far the fastest, easiest, and cheapest way to reduce our energy consumption

“Want to save energy? Turn out the lights and the A/C, peasants! Hah! I’m a frickin’ GENIUS!”

Damn, why didn’t we think about that?

– and it will save us $130 billion on our energy bills.

We’ll refrain from commenting on that number, other than to note that it came from the same glue-huffing oracle who insisted that merely inflating our tires correctly would immediately make up for our oil shortage and make us oil independent.

The state of California has implemented such a successful efficiency strategy that while electricity consumption grew 60% in this country over the last three decades, it didn’t grow at all in California.

That’s because there weren’t any electricity to use more of, you clueless cretin. “Rolling blackouts”, anyone? Gray-out Davis, call your office. Oh, sorry, it isn’t your office anymore, is it? Meanwhile, they tried to make up for their own idiocy in failing to note that if you want more energy, you have to produce more of it, by importing electricity from States that did understand that principle, then bitched about conspiracies and price gouging when those other States’ energy providers actually insisted on being paid market price for their services.

There is no reason we can’t do the same thing all across America.

You’re right. There is absolutely no reason that we can’t institute rolling blackouts all over America. There’s no reason at all that we can’t start rationing electricity (the Comrades in the Dalai Bama’s Politburo being exempted, of course, since they’re so much more important than the rest of us), no reason whatsoever that we can’t turn the United States into a dystopian copy of the defunct Soviet Union.

Other than common sense, that is, and the fact that if you try to cut off my A/C in the middle of the Texas summer, you’ll find yourself suddenly bereft of vital signs, you Commie cuntmuffin.

Thatisall.

71 Responses to ““And Don’t Forget To Inflate Those Tires!””
  1. OnceanIowan Comment by OnceanIowan UNITED STATES

    Hi all, I’m new here and thought I’d make a comment. Did I recall the Obamessiah mention he was going to put 1,000,000 new electric cars on the highway as well? Maybe in all his marxist glory what he meant was these would replace all current internal combustion powered cars. In other words we all will get to share these electric cars. We’ll all get our chance to drive one about 1/2 hour a week - that is when we’re not experiencing the rolling blackouts, er, brownouts, er, power outages (to be PC) . :em95:

  2. Unregistered Comment by Cheryl UNITED STATES

    Flying cars, Hell! Where’s my jet backpack that I was promised back in the Jetson days? :em95:

    There is absolutely no reason that we can’t institute rolling blackouts all over America.

    Under His Benevolent Oneness, there will be electricity rationing. Every city will be allowed 4 hours of electricity per day - excluding, of course, the homes of the :em72: ruling elite. :em72:

  3. Unregistered Comment by Z09SS UNITED STATES

    I reduced my household electrical use by 66% in the last year! I doubt I can get another 15%.

    The reason I bought the new windows and HVAC had nothing to do with Gaea, I simply got sick of the house being 80 in the summer with the AC running full bore 24/7. Compared to last year we are down 2/3. Gee, look at the market working!

    The rolling black-outs and what Enron did in California have a whole lot more to do with California price fixing than with anything Bush did to allow it. When electricity generated in the state can only be sold in state at a given price, and electricity generated out of state can be sold at market and there’s no restriction on exporting the energy out of state then a company SHOULD export all of the instate juice and bring in out of state. Problem with California is there wasn’t enough excess capacity out of state to support it.

  4. Blackiswhite, Imperial Agent Provocateur Comment by Blackiswhite, Imperial Agent Provocateur

    As I recall, the rolling backouts in CA coincided with a decision to perform maintenance on more than one California electrical generating plant at the same time. Funny how that works. Don’t recall of Enron owned the plants or the electricity, but I suspect that it is a liberal code word for “I blame Bush”.

    As for Obama’s ‘energy plan’ and desire to cut oil consumption, I have two observations:

    1. The Carter years were a miserable failure. Only a fool would want a second dose.

    2. Obama isn’t serious about cutting oil consumption. Not when he invites donors to a $1000 a plate dinner in Geneva, Switzerland, which is limited to 75 guests, and George Clooney. All those private jets are simply sucking the oil down wholesale.

  5. LC SkyeChild G.L.O.R. Comment by LC SkyeChild G.L.O.R. UNITED STATES

    DJ says:

    Rolling blackouts were a result of the ENRON crap that the Bush administration allowed to happen.

    1996 California begins to loosen controls on its energy market and takes measures to increase competition.
    April 1998 Spot market for energy begins operation.
    May 2000 Significant energy price rises.
    June 14, 2000 Blackouts affect 97,000 customers in San Francisco Bay area during a heat wave.
    August 2000 San Diego Gas & Electric Company files a complaint alleging manipulation of the markets.
    January 17-18, 2001 Blackouts affect several hundred thousand customers.
    January 17, 2001 Governor Davis declares a state of emergency.
    March 19-20, 2001 Blackouts affect 1.5 million customers.
    April 2001 Pacific Gas & Electric Co. files for bankruptcy.
    May 7-8, 2001 Blackouts affect upwards of 167,000 customers.
    September 2001 Energy prices normalize.
    December 2001 Following the bankruptcy of Enron, it is alleged that energy prices were manipulated by Enron.
    February 2002 Federal Energy Regulatory Commission begins investigation of Enron’s involvement.
    Winter 2002 The Enron Tapes scandal begins to surface.
    November 13, 2003 Governor Davis ends the state of emergency.

    The California electricity crisis (also known as the Western Energy Crisis) of 2000 and 2001 resulted from the gaming of a partially deregulated California energy system by energy companies such as Enron and Reliant Energy. The energy crisis was characterized by a combination of extremely high prices and rolling blackouts. Price instability and spikes lasted from May 2000 to September 2001. Due to price controls, utility companies were paying more for electricity than they were allowed to charge customers, forcing the bankruptcy of Pacific Gas and Electric and the public bail out of Southern California Edison. This led to a shortage in energy and therefore, blackouts. Rolling blackouts began in June 2000 and recurred several times in the following 12 months.

    Um…remind us again just when Bush was elected???

  6. LC Cheapshot911, Dept. of Redneck Tech Comment by LC Cheapshot911, Dept. of Redneck Tech

    (Wipes bits of slime from marble columns in Imperial Foyer,, decides not to peek into Outer Ante Chamber,,)

    I can see Deej had been by.

    it didn’t grow at all in California.

    Umm, Not so fast,,

    The folks in the north payed so the folks in the south could enjoy a nice rate freeze.
    Tha Governator made some enemies,, enron heads rolled,,

    It was freakin’ glorious!

  7. LC Cheapshot911, Dept. of Redneck Tech Comment by LC Cheapshot911, Dept. of Redneck Tech

    2. Obama isn’t serious about cutting oil consumption.

    Or drilling, BisW,.
    Otherwise he’d have a fairly handy chance to prove it by using some of that freakin’ light of his to get his own party to at least put it up for debate.

    There’s some serious winking goin’ on,, if he’s pro drilling and his party has the senate in full fugidaboudit to prevent discussion.

    DOG has farted things with more sense.

  8. LC Gunsniper Comment by LC Gunsniper UNITED STATES

    So, this energy “plan” is basically:

    Average Americans live like medieval peasants while the DNC and it’s cronies live like royalty. :em72: :em72: :em72:

  9. lc purple raider 9-time Division III Champions Comment by lc purple raider 9-time Division III Champions UNITED STATES

    If you look at the generalized energy program Obama has you will see nothing about a tire guage. Instead, you will see a general program that attempts to move us off of not only foreign oil on the short term, but into alternative energy sources over the long term.

    I don’t see a general program, I see the same Marxist dogma vomited all over my screen.

    Cap and Trade. Stop Oil Speculators. Enron Loophole. Climate Change. Windfall Profits. Tax Fairness.

    More BS from the Chicago Machine Democrat Marxist.

  10. LC FORGER - Imperial Blacksmith Comment by LC FORGER - Imperial Blacksmith

    …and the fact that if you try to cut off my A/C in the middle of the Texas summer…

    Ohhhh, it can’t be more than 104F in the shade…

    …of the Moon…

    What you worried about??? :em93:

  11. Unregistered Comment by LC Curmudgeon Imperial Bard UNITED STATES

    To facilitate movement; make sure your senator is properly inflated.

  12. Unregistered Comment by Diomedes UNITED STATES

    The tire pressure recommendation IS a valid thing we all can do to increase our own gas mileage and lower our personal costs. As a driver who consistently puts 400 miles on my car almost every day, I know that by keeping my tires properly inflated can save me about 5 - 10 percent in fuel consumption over not regularly checking my tires. That might not seem much as an individual driver, but multiplied over every driver, and it is quite a savings in consumption every day.

    First: why are you DRIVING 400 miles a day? That’s absolutely ludicrous. You’re guzzling more gas than 5-6 other people… I hope you have a GOOD explanation.

    Second: Any TWIT knows to keep their tire pressure at or near the recommended level for a LOT of reasons besides fuel economy. (Safety, tire wear etc). Those of use who lived through the first oil crisis and the LAST socialist president (Carter) had this pounded into us then.

    Third: Obama has no program. lc purple raider got ya on that one!

  13. LC ORWN Resident Bowling God Comment by LC ORWN Resident Bowling God

    FROM HIS WEBSITE: IMPROVE ENERGY EFFICIENCY 50% By 2030

    Set National Building Efficiency Goals: Barack Obama will establish a goal of making all new building carbon nuetral, or produce zero emmisions, by 2030. He’ll also establish a national goal of improving new building efficiency by50% and existing building efficiency by 25% over the next decade to help us meet the 2030 goal.

    Good on the new building efficiency standards, but the existing buildings is where I go,whoa, what if it’s not fiscally feasable for a certain company to completely renovate their current building to meet the gov. regulations, I know alot of government types who just think money just falls from trees, but it doesn’t, any increase in costs are going to increase what We as an example can or have to charge for our products, just as the federal minimum wage increase has also increased our cost of doing bussiness.
    And I for one can tell you from my own experience, Sales this year are up , great right,profits are down, and I’m not even figuring in fuel costs, just raised taxes, aformentioned, minimum wage increase,( for a high school ag student who really doesn’t deserve to be paid 7.00 an hour to learn on the job.) Electricity, natural gas, phone, internet, supplies, shipping in and out of the bussiness, and on and on.

    and just how much, oil is going to be consumed, in these renovations, almost every thing you use in constructing a building, uses oil in one form or another, it’s a complete pipe dream to expect to be off of oil.the technolagy is just not here YET. and who can say it will ever be here, we have been developing solar panels since what the late 70’s? It’s still not a viable alternative, and even if it magically was available tomorrow, do you have any comprehension, on what it would cost the American people to convert everything over to electrical, last time I checked they don’t hand them out for free, what about electrical storage , batteries aren’t really all that efficient, they are expensive, explosion hazard, disposal hazard.

    We can dream about this, It may be a great idea, to get it all done by 2030, but we are still gonna be using oil, a shit load of oil completing this feat which is gonna increase demand, AND he want’s to do nothing about supply, It just makes no sense.

    Let’s start by increasing the supply and while we are doing that, keep working to reduce our oil consumption, not our Energy Consumption.

    DRILL HERE DRILL NOW, NUCLEAR, SOLAR, COAL, EVERY DAMNED THING WE NEED TO KEEP THE ENGINE OF FREEDOM AND PROSPERITY FOR THE WORLD CHURNING.

    On a side note : why do they call them buildings when they are already built?

  14. LC cmblake6 Comment by LC cmblake6

    http://www.funnyordie.com/videos/64ad536a6d YEEEEAAAAHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  15. RedneckProgrammer Comment by RedneckProgrammer

    Re: DJ :em04:
    I surely do not group you in with the delusional of the left. You make some valid points and I
    consider you the “loyal opposition”.

    That being said I can’t help but notice the left always favors the demand side of the equation. You know,
    SUPPLY = DEMAND. It would seem to me, that to solve the current energy crises, we need to work at BOTH sides of the equation.

    Re: ORWIN

    DRILL HERE DRILL NOW, NUCLEAR, SOLAR, COAL, EVERY DAMNED THING WE NEED TO KEEP THE ENGINE OF FREEDOM AND PROSPERITY FOR THE WORLD CHURNING.

    AMEN!!!

  16. LC Mrs. M-ITT™-Imperial Sniper Comment by LC Mrs. M-ITT™-Imperial Sniper

    Rolling blackouts were a result of the ENRON crap that the Bush administration allowed to happen.

    Your BDS is showing Deej.

  17. LC SkyeChild G.L.O.R. Comment by LC SkyeChild G.L.O.R. UNITED STATES

    Especially as Bush didn’t even take office until California was in the middle of their energy crisis. But then, facts never DID matter to libs.

  18. Unregistered Comment by mindy1 UNITED STATES

    Mandated blackout isa bad idea. Why not just voluntarily try to use less

  19. LC GodIsMyJudge Comment by LC GodIsMyJudge UNITED STATES

    Rolling blackouts were a result of the ENRON crap that the Bush administration allowed to happen.

    Thanks for the laugh DJ. I’m guessing that you were just trolling for the fun of it since no one with half a brain would blame a problem that happened BEFORE a president got elected on that president. Even more funny, Ken Lay and Bill Clinton were golfing buddies, and it was Clinton who got Enron into the mess that eventually took them down (more on that in a moment).

    Furthermore, keep in mind that Enron had operations all over the country and yet only California, with its insane half-baked energy regulatory scheme, had rolling blackouts. The California energy crisis was, just like the current fuel crisis, the result of idiotic, communistic Democrat energy policy.

    When you idiotically regulate an industry you are going to see less of what it produces. This is what is happing now with fuel and it is what happened in California in 00 and 01 with electricity.

    As for Enron, it had nothing to do with the rolling blackouts. Did it benefit from Gray Davis’ idiocy? Well, not enough obviously.

    It was never implicated in any wrong-doing regarding its core business (energy commodity selling and energy plant operations). Enron starting failing because of a relationship with Bill Clinton and then stepped over the ethics line when it started cooking its books in order to stay in business and keep its employees and stockholders from losing everything.

    The dirty little secret of the Enron debacle is that, if the Bush administration had looked the other way and not gone after Enron, it might have lived to fight another day and its stockholders would not have lost their shirts. Not saying that the Bush admin is at fault for the Enron failure since obviously, it has to go after companies that cook books but just keep in mind, Enron needed new sources of cash to stay afloat and dig themselves out of the problems they had gotten into earlier. They decided that they had to convince everyone that they were solvent when they were not.

    Again, had this been successful, they might have righted their ship and continued on to pay dividends another day. Alas, it was not to be because Bush was committed to law and order where his predecessor was not. Enron was not given the opportunity by the Bush admin to convince more people to invest in them and so they went belly up and the little people got burned (well, the big people did too now that I think about it.)

    In any case, for those like DJ who don’t understand what caused Enron’s collapse, let me run it down for you.

    The Clinton administration facilitated a sweetheart deal for India to build a gigantic, hydro-carbon producing beast of a gas fired electric plant back in the early 90s. Clinton and Ron Brown consummated the deal with India in 1995 (was Bush was president in 1995?) and then Enron invested 1 billion dollars of its own money to get this plant going. India reniged on paying Enron for the power and Enron posted its first ever loss that same quarter. This was the beginning of the end for the huge energy company. It never recovered from the Clinton/India power plant debacle.

    By the way, Ken Lay gave the Clinton campaign $100K in return for getting the deal with India. In contrast, Haliburton only gave the Bush campaign $17K in 2000. In the former instance, Clinton facilitated the deal on Enron’s behalf while, in the latter, NOTHING was ever done by Bush for Haliburton. Nevertheless, Ken Lay had to regret ever dealing with the Clinton admin on the India deal given how inept the administration was in dealing with that country. They made their bed (with the Clintons) and they had to lie in it.

    As for you DJ, I think an apology to George Bush for your slander might be in order, assuming you have the moral quality to do so.

  20. LC Fmwoods01 Comment by LC Fmwoods01 UNITED STATES

    If Pigloosi gets all energy prices up where she thinks they need to be, we’ll all involuntarily use less. That’s the game-plan. After all she’s got an earth to save and she’s going to be in charge for a long time. Watch how this hope and change shit plays out. Brace yourselves it’s gonna get a little bumpy. Meager times ahead for all but the uber-elite, but don’t worry, the earth will be fine.

    D’

  21. LC SkyeChild G.L.O.R. Comment by LC SkyeChild G.L.O.R. UNITED STATES

    GodIsMyJudge

    since no one with half a brain would blame a problem that happened BEFORE a president got elected on that president.

    Did you miss a memo? Everything is Bush’s fault, even things that happened before he was born.

  22. LC ORWN Resident Bowling God Comment by LC ORWN Resident Bowling God

    Mrs M

    I stubbed my toe, it’s all the fault of the evil Bush administration!!!!!

    Oh yeah and the JOOOOOOOOOSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!

  23. LC ORWN Resident Bowling God Comment by LC ORWN Resident Bowling God

    O.k. what happened to my previous post?

  24. LC 0311 crunchie I.M.H. Comment by LC 0311 crunchie I.M.H.

    OnceanIowan, welcome aboard Sir. And you scored a “foist” on yer first comment, way to go.

    Pull up a chair, kick back and relax. Mrs. M is in charge of trash removal, both up close and long range (Imperial Sniper and all that), don’t talk to Jenkins the man-servant (he’s OK, the voices in his head keep him company), and never, ever, EVER open a link from BC, Radical Redneck, or The Major, at leas not if you value your eyesight and prefer to only taste your meals once. And please don’t mention Helen Thomas if BC’s around, the boy don’t need any encouragin’.

    Enjoy the ride buddy.

  25. LC 0311 crunchie I.M.H. Comment by LC 0311 crunchie I.M.H.

    O.k. what happened to my previous post?

    Akismet took a liking to ya Ohio. I rescued ya from spam purgatory.

  26. jaybear, Colonel of Imperial Ancient Artillery Comment by jaybear, Colonel of Imperial Ancient Artillery UNITED STATES

    I think Troy went off fishing without his trusty bass blaster

    booooom

  27. LC Darth Scoundrel, Dark Lord of the Refuge Comment by LC Darth Scoundrel, Dark Lord of the Refuge UNITED STATES

    I was once an Iowan myself.
    But I got better. :em02:

  28. crazylegs Comment by crazylegs

    Instead of inflating tires to save gas, how about we deflate some tires. Preferably at the DNC convention.

  29. Special Ed, Half-Vast Conspirator Comment by Special Ed, Half-Vast Conspirator UNITED STATES

    15% less electricity? Same or better standard of living?

    Right after the Gov’t uses 15% less money for the same or better bullshit.

  30. OnceanIowan Comment by OnceanIowan UNITED STATES

    OnceanIowan, welcome aboard Sir. And you scored a “foist” on yer first comment, way to go.

    Thank you! Glad to be here :em04:

    I was once an Iowan myself.
    But I got better.

    My family traded Iowa several decades ago for the paradise that once was Southern California now more commonly referred to as Mexifornia, specifically Los Angemexicentralamerangeles. Somehow, although I might be wrong, I’m kinda longing to be an Iowan again, floods, tornadoes and blizzards and all .

  31. LC ORWN Resident Bowling God Comment by LC ORWN Resident Bowling God

    Thanks Crunch.

    Im not spam dammit!!!!

  32. jaybear, Colonel of Imperial Ancient Artillery Comment by jaybear, Colonel of Imperial Ancient Artillery UNITED STATES

    I posted a report here about a week ago from the Department of Energy that pretty much spelled out what your Drillusions really are when it comes to drilling oil here.

    and what is the price per barrel of oil today? $120.10……….it’s dropped 20 dollars just from the threat of our “drillusions”

  33. LC Don_M Comment by LC Don_M UNITED STATES

    … the Republican Congress in 1995 made it illegal for the Environmental Protection Agency even to study higher CAFE standards.

    Guess those nasty ReThuglicans found a way to sneak that law into the U.S. Code without the benefit of Billy Jeff’s signature when they didn’t have a veto-proof majority. How nefarious and brilliantly eeeevilll!

  34. LC Darth Scoundrel, Dark Lord of the Refuge Comment by LC Darth Scoundrel, Dark Lord of the Refuge UNITED STATES

    My family traded Iowa several decades ago for the paradise that once was Southern California now more commonly referred to as Mexifornia, specifically Los Angemexicentralamerangeles. Somehow, although I might be wrong, I’m kinda longing to be an Iowan again, floods, tornadoes and blizzards and all .

    That’s why I went east instead of west. That and the US Navy insisted.

    Flooding and tornadoes I can deal with, blizzards not so much any more.

    Glad to have you here!

  35. OnceanIowan Comment by OnceanIowan UNITED STATES

    That’s why I went east instead of west. That and the US Navy insisted.

    Flooding and tornadoes I can deal with, blizzards not so much any more.

    Glad to have you here

    Yup, the military does have its way of putting people where they want them. Thanks for your service. Its the blizzards that my wife has to bring up to make me stop threatening to move us back to Iowa after we retire. If we aren’t obliged to go out to work, I figure we can keep stocked up on food and beverages and hunker down inside the house when need be to avoid having to go out into all that frigid air and snow my native SoCal wife so likes to avoid. Well, except the occasional trip with the inlaws to Mammoth for X-Country skiing and snowshoeing which she enjoys, as long as the winds don’t blow and the snow doesn’t fall while we’re out on the trails and she can go back after a few hours to a nice warm condo and hot tea.

  36. LC 0311 crunchie I.M.H. Comment by LC 0311 crunchie I.M.H.

    Thanks Crunch.

    Im not spam dammit!!!!

    Depends on who ya ask there Buckeye. :em01:

  37. LC Rurik Comment by LC Rurik UNITED STATES

    Gunsniper,

    Average Americans live like medieval peasants while the DNC and it’s cronies live like royalty.

    And that is not just the result, but the actual purpose and intent of all Dhimmiecrat policy.
    And that doesn’t matter whether it is the Obamarangutan or the Hildebeeste reigning in the palace.

    Sorry OBozo, but we’ve already got an Empeor, right here, and you can’t replace him. :em96:

  38. Radical Redneck Comment by Radical Redneck

    OMG! Kayinsane provides a treasure trove of schadenfreude via the whole Bruce Ivins anthrax story! :lol: :em01: :em41: :em98: :em95:

    Bruce Ivins suicided as Hilter’s Rommel

    Erwin Rommel knew too much about what Adolf Hitler and the Nazis were doing, so he conspired a plan to assassinate/oust Hitler and Rommel ended up being suicided by the Nazis in the end by taking a cyanide pill given to him by the Nazis…Bruce Ivins also knew too much.

    Hatfill was paid off with hush-money and Ivins suicided so the CASE CAN BE CLOSED so the FBI doesn’t have to admit the order to send anthrax out to liberals/democrats came from the White House

    And how much were the people in Ivins’ life paid to make him out to be a homicidal maniac who was a disturbed individual who had the mind of a killer and who would definitely fit the profile of the person who committed the anthrax attacks? Huh? How much? Or were the families, friends, co-workers and the therapist lives threatened if they did not cooperate with the FBI/Bush Regime in their game to divert the truth away from them?

    Hatfill & Ivins are victims of our government to keep the eyes & finger pointing away from them…the real perpetrators?

    And her weak-minded apparachiks never let me down either! :em95:

    Uncle Fester Lurks Says:
    August 7, 2008 at 10:46 am
    Yup Hydes, I’m into conspiracy theories all right. I wouldn’t put nothing past the Bush administration. I believe they allowed 9/11 to happen and they were behind Anthrax, if you don’t believe this that is your choice, keep your head in your ass

  39. LC Rurik Comment by LC Rurik UNITED STATES

    And by the way, how are you going to recharge the batteries for your electric cars that OhBummer wants you to drive, once he institutes those national rolling black African-American-outs?

  40. Blackiswhite, Imperial Agent Provocateur Comment by Blackiswhite, Imperial Agent Provocateur

    Yes, Obama would allow some off-shore drilling as long as the state who’s shore is being drilled wants it. (ooo, there is that “states rights” thing)

    How far out does each state’s jurisdiction exend, Deej? 2 miles? 10 miles? 30 miles?

  41. OnceanIowan Comment by OnceanIowan UNITED STATES

    And by the way, how are you going to recharge the batteries for your electric cars that OhBummer wants you to drive, once he institutes those national rolling black African-American-outs?

    Why, when the Obamessiah, in his idivine generousity, allows us to! Now get in the back of the line peasant….and hope the next rolling blackout doesn’t hit when its your turn to recharge.

  42. lc purple raider 9-time Division III Champions Comment by lc purple raider 9-time Division III Champions UNITED STATES

    Personally, I would nationalize it,

    You and Maxine Waters, eh?

    By the way, you say Big Oil is contributing to McVain.

    How much has George Soros, Maurice Strong, and Big Socialists given to Obama?

  43. OnceanIowan Comment by OnceanIowan UNITED STATES

    How far out does each state’s jurisdiction exend, Deej? 2 miles? 10 miles? 30 miles

    When last I heard, states have the first 3 miles and the fed has rights out from there to whatever the national limit is now. Someone else know different?

  44. LC ORWN Resident Bowling God Comment by LC ORWN Resident Bowling God

    Deej
    What kind of car did you convert to cng, just asking cause there can be serious ramifications to using cng in an interal combustion engine that is not originally designed for it.

    For all it’s so called faults, gasoline does more than just supply the fuel for combustion, it’s also cools the intake valves, during the combustion process, it leaves a small trace amount of an ashy deposit on the valve face, and seat, which LNG or CNG do not because they are what are considered cold dry fuels.

    What these trace amounts of ash do is provide a barrier between the seat and face, the valve seat and face are not capable of handling direct metal to metal contact, what eventually happens is the surfaces temporarally “spot weld” themselves together, and when that bond is overcum by the pressure of camlift,
    it basically breaks apart and small particals, “microscopic particals” are pulled away from either the valve or seat, generally the seat ( it’s not as a hard of a surface as the valve face) eventually resulting in premature valve failure.

    CNG or LNG are really efficient, but if every thing is not done right the consequences can be expensive.

    Just saying is all…..

    Oh just in case anyone is wondering, I build engines for a living, H.D., AG, light truck,auto, been to enough schools a tech seminars to last me the next three life times.

  45. LC ORWN Resident Bowling God Comment by LC ORWN Resident Bowling God

    should have read….. And tech seminars… :em41:

    Chruncie

    Thanks pal, nothing but love for you too.

  46. LC cmblake6 Comment by LC cmblake6

    There is no current plans to actually produce any oil off the coast or up in ANWR. Hell, it will take a minimum of ten years just for the infrastructure to be put in place for ANWR and five years for the rigs to be built for the first drilling off shore. And first they have to actually locate the oil.

    And how did the Scandinavians get it done in less than 2? This, remember, is AMERICA! If the profit is worth the risk, we can cut that in half. We know where there are some hellacious deposits RIGHT NOW. We can get it out on the streets in less than 2 years, safely and cleanly, if the miserable lefty ecoloons can be told to STFU. Yes, we need to get alternatives on-line. But we need to get there first. We have alternatives, algae oil, CNG sure, but they’re not enough. We need power to get to our goal, we need tax incentives to develop those alternatives to fruition. We currently run on petroleum, we need more. We need incentives to develop alternatives, we can offer them. When something better does get here, we can convert. How sensible/blatantly obvious do you need to get before the idiots understand? Dangle the carrot, don’t beat the animal, and the jackass donkey will follow. How hard is it to understand?!?!? :em98: SHIT!

  47. LC ORWN Resident Bowling God Comment by LC ORWN Resident Bowling God

    Cmblake6

    You are absotutly correct my good friend, this is America, we can, and must do everything we can to get it done.

    I’m fucking sick and tired of listening to people say we can’t do this we can’t do that.

    BULLSHIT, this is America, we build 8000hp top fuel dragsters…………. BECAUSE WE FUCKING CAN!!!!!!!!!!!

  48. L C hilljohnny Comment by L C hilljohnny UNITED STATES

    It also doesn’t guarantee more oil on the market to meet growing demands either. Remember, it is to the benefit of the oil companies to keep supply low in order to keep prices high.

    it is cheaper to pump here than buy there. “Both the varying reservoir characteristics and the physical characteristics of the crude oil are important components of the cost of producing oil. These costs can range from as little as $2 per barrel in the Middle East to more than $15 per barrel in some fields in the United States, including capital recovery. It is interesting to note that technological advances in finding and producing oil have made it possible to bring once-expensive deepwater Gulf of Mexico oil into production for less than $10 per barrel.” link if the oil is pumped here the profit margin is greater if it is sold here without the cost of shipping overseas. in any case more oil on the market will lower prices not increase them.

  49. Blackiswhite, Imperial Agent Provocateur Comment by Blackiswhite, Imperial Agent Provocateur

    How far out does each state’s jurisdiction exend, Deej? 2 miles? 10 miles? 30 miles?

    Isn’t the US limit something like 200 miles? If so, I would think that the state’s jurisdiction would be that limit.

    I asked because I didn’t know. I didn’t think your answer rang true.

    It took some searching, but I got to the answer: http://oceanworld.ta.....alzone.htm

    Summary: as a generalization, it looks like roughly 3 miles is the limit of an individual state’s jurisdiction, and then the next 197 miles under fderal jurisdiction depending on the activity.

    I didn’t think Californiweird got hold the rest of us hostage. It’s all the Dhims in Congress.

  50. LC ORWN Resident Bowling God Comment by LC ORWN Resident Bowling God

    DEEJ

    Thanks for the answer, I was just concerned it wasn’t just some company doing the work without knowing the effects of what could go wrong, and then a couple of months down the road you get fucked with a hugh repair bill for a new engine.

    You have been through enough, be well my friend.

  51. LC GodIsMyJudge Comment by LC GodIsMyJudge UNITED STATES

    DJ unloaded this BS on us:

    The Democrats have done a decent job of beating back the argument that this will effect prices in the short run, or even in the long run. But no one has addressed the point above. The Republicans make it seem like we won’t be dependent on foreign oil — and that prices will go down in the US — if we have our own oil. But it won’t be ours. And it will be sold on the world market, so its effect on global oil prices will be even smaller.

    First of all, if the Democrats have done such a great job of making their argument why are they doing so poorly in the polls and more people than ever want to drill?

    Second, the word is “affect” not “effect”. [you blithering ignoramus].

    Third, the “point above” about oil coming out of our ground and going into the world market is known by pretty much anyone who pays attention. Rush himself explained this reality on his radio show just the other day. This HuffPo writer thinks that this is somehow a newsflash :em96:

    BUT WE DON’T CARE IF IT GOES ON THE WORLD MARKET OR NOT BECAUSE OIL IS A COMMODITY THAT IS ALWAYS GOING TO BE TRADED GLOBALLY.

    Obviously our oil goes on the world market just like every other commodity. But two realities are at play here:

    1. Our oil being sold by our oil companies will largely be sold here because our oil companies make more money selling our oil here than overseas. Why on earth would Exxon sell oil at a lower margin overseas when it can make a higher profit by selling it here?

    2. Even if Exxon DID sell to a foreign market, that means that world supply of oil would increase and thereby ALL oil prices would come down. Saudi oil all the sudden is no longer so rare so they have to lower their prices in order to be competitive.

    I don’t even know why we are having this conversation with the economically illiterate. This is econ 101 stuff.

    (BTW, I especially liked how the “market correction” that DJ is sure was the reason for the price of oil coming down, happened to exactly cooincide with Bush’s lifting of the moratorium on offshore drilling. What a coincidence! :em98: )

  52. LC Rurik Comment by LC Rurik UNITED STATES

    Was there any particular reason why you had to mention race in your silly little comment? Oh that’s right, Republicans aren’t racist people, and they don’t make fun of what they consider “funny names”.

    The general answer is “The is the Rottie”, where poltiical correctness is not a way of life.

    Some more specific replies. Bringing in race has been very, very popular with the so-called Democrats of all factions throughout the currnet political cycle. He Whose Middle Name Must Not Be Mentioned slyly plays the race card regularly. “Any White person who doesn’t vote for me must be a racist”. Then sign me up, and I’m free with nothing mroe to fear. And may I also remind you of that recent fuss about Black Holes in Houston.

    As for Republicans, I haven’t been one for about a dozen years, so hold neither me nor them to each other’s account. This whole idiotiarian business about substituting “African-American” for “Black” has been an irritation ever since Jesse Jackass decided he needed that new gimmick to bate the Ice People. Seems to ignore issues of Afrikaaners, amongst other things. Now this Rabbit is talking back.

    Concerning the issue of racism, real, imaginary, or otherwise, many of us are very tired of being continually nagged (or mau-maued to use the expression of Tom Wolfe) about racial attitudes. It is long overdue to suggest that this sort of moral bullying could backfire and provoke people. Ever hear the expression “self-fulfilling prophecy”? I think it is happening before our eyes. Some of us used to believe in “Live & let live”.

    Making fun of “funny names”? I do that in a bi-partisan spirit. After you’ve discovered who is “Chimpy McHitlerburton”, you might also want to explore a little further back. Remember President Ray Gun? And the names the Democrats like to contrive for almost any prominent politician right of center Brezhnev.

    Having been expelled from the human race as a baby-killer 38 years ago, by your peasant-killer buddies, I have learned to be completely immune to the opinions of the self-annointed progressive pukes.

  53. LC Mrs. M-ITT™-Imperial Sniper Comment by LC Mrs. M-ITT™-Imperial Sniper

    Was there any particular reason why you had to mention race in your silly little comment?

    I do believe that was a jab at the dumbass City Councilman who got his lace panties in a wad when another Councilman said the word “Black Hole”, (referring to bureaucratic backlog) and accused him of being racist Deej. Pull your head out of Obambi’s ass and go find your sense of humor. You libs have just got to stop worrying about “code words” and looking for racism in every comment a person types. It just makes you look like a whining ass.

  54. DдrтH бдкфи Comment by DдrтH бдкфи

    Was there any particular reason why you had to mention race in your silly little comment? Oh that’s right, Republicans aren’t racist people, and they don’t make fun of what they consider “funny names”.

    Dave, if I didn’t know better, I’d think you were going out of your way to manufacture some Outrage™.

    I believe you know perfectly well he was lampooning the phenomenon of certain types taking umbrage at any use of the word “black”- even in reference to freakin’ astronomic features…even though they’re no longer even ‘black’ people.

    Of course, in your heart, you know racists aren’t the people who make silly jokes, but the ones who believe blacks can’t achieve without set-asides…IOW, so-called liberals.

  55. LC CiSSnarl5.7 Chariot Builder Comment by LC CiSSnarl5.7 Chariot Builder KUWAIT

    Republicans aren’t racist people

    There’s republicans here? Could have fooled me…

    Well I can safely say that I don’t think there are any racists here, I mean the lynching was on my list of “things to do” and by golly no-one and I mean NO-ONE showed. Not even teh black guy.
    *Shrugs*
    There I was out by the Oak tree O’ Doom and whistling Dixie all by myself…. :em98:

    And oh, would someone please have one of the bean counters from the palace PLEASE send a memo down to the Imperial garage IRT these blasted crosses?

    Really, I mean what am I supposed to do with them now? They’re pine!?!?! I can’t even use them for chariot repairs…. :em98:

  56. lc purple raider 9-time Division III Champions Comment by lc purple raider 9-time Division III Champions UNITED STATES

    Was there any particular reason why you had to mention race in your silly little comment?

    I haven’t mentioned race.

    I have mentioned his ties to the Chicago Machine.

    I have mentioned his ties to American terrorists.

    I have mentioned his ties to one-worlders like George Soros and Maurice Strong.

    I have mentioned that his Marxist politics will bring about the first American dictatorship.

    I have mentioned that his ward workers are quietly stoking the “celebrations” on Election Night, win or lose.

    Race, couldn’t care less, although he is Castro with a tan.

    BTW, around this Purple Raider Nation, PC stands for Pilsener Cold.

  57. Special Ed, Half-Vast Conspirator Comment by Special Ed, Half-Vast Conspirator UNITED STATES

    “Effect” was correct. “Affect” is a verb, “effect” a noun.

    Oil drilled here goes on a world market. More for everyone, less competition, lower prices. But if feces impacts oscillator, our oil is here, not there.

  58. LC SkyeChild G.L.O.R. Comment by LC SkyeChild G.L.O.R. UNITED STATES

    “Effect” was correct. “Affect” is a verb, “effect” a noun.

    The grammar nazi steps in:

    Affect is a verb: how did the weather affect you?

    Effect is BOTH a noun and a verb:

    What effect did the change have on you? (noun)
    His new policies effected a change in the campaign. (verb)

    Hey…I didn’t bring it up first…I’m just clarifying.

    So, Dave was wrong, GodIsMyJudge was right, SpecialEd was wrong. :em04:

  59. LC SkyeChild G.L.O.R. Comment by LC SkyeChild G.L.O.R. UNITED STATES

    And, technically, affect is also a noun, but it’s generally only used in psychology or psychiatry, as in:
    The patient exhibited a schizophrenic affect.

    And with this affect, the accent is on the first syllable, instead of the second. 8-)

  60. L C hilljohnny Comment by L C hilljohnny UNITED STATES

    have you seen the new salute?

    i think it indicates willingness to stroke the royal crank. :em02:

  61. LC SkyeChild G.L.O.R. Comment by LC SkyeChild G.L.O.R. UNITED STATES

    Hilljohnny,

    You mean the messiah’s big ZERO???

  62. L C hilljohnny Comment by L C hilljohnny UNITED STATES

    SkyeChild either that or it shows the I.Q. of His followers.

  63. LC Mrs. M-ITT™-Imperial Sniper Comment by LC Mrs. M-ITT™-Imperial Sniper

    i think it indicates willingness to stroke the royal crank.

    Actually it’s showing the proper hold when they are “servicing” The Dalai Bama so it doesn’t chafe. :em01:

    Freaking morons.

  64. Blackiswhite, Imperial Agent Provocateur Comment by Blackiswhite, Imperial Agent Provocateur

    i think it indicates willingness to stroke the royal crank.

    Actually it’s showing the proper hold when they are “servicing” The Dalai Bama so it doesn’t chafe.

    Both remarks presume that both hands would be necessary for such an act, when in a magnifying glass and a pair of tweezers might be more suitable.

  65. lc purple raider 9-time Division III Champions Comment by lc purple raider 9-time Division III Champions UNITED STATES

    DJ, sorry, hope you feel better.

    But you are still wrong.

  66. LC cmblake6 Comment by LC cmblake6

    Rush says what I’m thinking on international radio. He does not tell me what to think, he expounds my thoughts. Yes, I am a “ditto-head”. When I’m awake to listen to him, and that’s been years as a whole. Somedays I’m not working midshift, so then I can hear him pull up something I haven’t even read here yet.
    Get better DJ, you’re a good troop. A bit deluded by the proletarial propaganda, but a damn fine man.

  67. LC GodIsMyJudge Comment by LC GodIsMyJudge UNITED STATES

    DJ excretes:

    I didn’t write it…

    If you had actually read my post (and your own) you would know that I never said you did. :em98:

    [you festering blow-hole]

    See? We both can call each other names. Of course it is a great distraction from the core point, isn’t it?

    Not really. The point was to call attention to the low level of literacy of the person you were holding up as some kind of expert on the subject of commodity markets (which the writer clearly was not).

    <

    blockquote>Rush himself explained this reality on his radio show just the other day. This HuffPo writer thinks that this is somehow a newsflash

    oooo, Rush himself, huh? He didn’t have a minion do it for him? We got it directly from the horse’s ass, — I mean, mouth?

    Anytime I hear the phrase “Rush explained,” I just get all giddy. Especially since people like you have to get your instructions and explanations from a shill like Rush.

    Ah, I see. Argumentum ad hominem. Very good DJ. Nothing like immediately resorting to the best debating tactic the left employs.

    And by this response, I have to assume that anytime someone quotes the leading conservative voice in the nation, you are free to dismiss it out of hand even if his point agrees with your own.

    …OIL IS A COMMODITY THAT IS ALWAYS GOING TO BE TRADED GLOBALLY.

    The majority of people in this country are only going along with the drillusion because they are being led to believe that whatever oil is pumped out of our ground will end up in our gas tank.

    Ridiculous sophistry on its face. The general public knows (even if you and your friends don’t) that more supply results in lower prices. Like I said, Econ 101.

    But let’s take you at your word DJ and assume that you are correct. Drilling for oil does not lower prices. Okay, so logically, the inverse must also be true. If we stop drilling altogether, prices won’t rise.

    Good luck with that one.

    Let me explain global commodity markets to you DJ. Think in terms of Democrat tax policy, something of which, I’m sure you approve. The Dems tax your paycheck on a line that says “FICA”. You may think that this money goes to the social security trust fund (since that is where the Dems say it goes). But most of us know that that money goes to fund things like the latest West Virginian pork project named after Robert Byrd and not to our social security.

    You see, like your restricted (i.e. “dedicated”) tax allocation which is not used for that restricted purpose, oil is fungible as well. It goes into a large pool (both literally and figuratively) of oil. As a world commodity, introduction of supplies from a place like ANWR, immediately increase the size of this pool. As a result, world prices fall regardless of whether the gas in your specific tank is from ANWR or not.

    The oil companies aren’t making more money from us than they are from anywhere else in the world market.

    More economic illiteracy on display. I could enlighten you DJ but I doubt it would do any good to explain that when a company produces its own product it makes more money (and is therefore, more competitive) than it does if it simply resells someone else’s.

    I have probably forgotten more about this stuff than you’ve learned from Rush.

    Maybe so. Likewise, I’ve probably forgotten more about this stuff than I’ve learned from Rush as well. But given that nothing in your posts so far on this subject have shown any economic literacy at all, I’m not sure what Rush has to do with it.

  68. Special Ed, Half-Vast Conspirator Comment by Special Ed, Half-Vast Conspirator UNITED STATES

    SkyeChild, I was wrong. I only noticed the second “effect” in the paragraph. And yes, “affect” and “effect” can both be either noun or verb. Mea culpa.

  69. LC Darth Scoundrel, Dark Lord of the Refuge Comment by LC Darth Scoundrel, Dark Lord of the Refuge UNITED STATES

    Oh just in case anyone is wondering, I build engines for a living, H.D., AG, light truck,auto, been to enough schools a tech seminars to last me the next three life times.

    Good. Come to my house and get my Rampage running. I’m just a shade tree auto wrencher and I can’t figure it out. Trouble is, it’s so old that it doesn’t have a computer to pull codes out of so most of the “professional” mechanics can’t figure it out either.

  70. LC SkyeChild G.L.O.R. Comment by LC SkyeChild G.L.O.R. UNITED STATES

    SpecialEd,

    The way posts fly through this place, I’m surprised you were able to read them. I just sort of skim most of them. :em93:

  71. LC Gunsniper Comment by LC Gunsniper UNITED STATES

    I have to make this my last comment for a while. I am checking back into the hospital this afternoon.

    :em69: Good Luck to you, Deej. :em69:

    The majority of people in this country are only going along with the drillusion because they are being led to believe that whatever oil is pumped out of our ground will end up in our gas tank.

    The whole problem is being pidgeonholed into a “to-drill-or-not-to-drill” paradigm when there is far more to the equation.

    We’ve needed far more refining capacity since the seventies yet here it is, 2008, and we’re still stuck with the “same ol’ same ol’”.

    Any remaining oil-fired power plants must be replaced with a coal-fired or a nuclear power plant.

    Shitcan all Ethanol requirements and the subsidies to corn farmers. That will help fuel efficiency more than all of the tune-ups and tire inflation schemes enforced at gunpoint by jugears.

    Any Federal funding of “alternative energies” must be aimed at the best promising energy source rather than greenie bullshit.

    That’s just for starters.