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It’s Like Deja Vu All Over Again
Posted by: Emperor Misha I in Politics, Public Announcements1:08 PM
A heads up from the PUMAs, who aren’t in the least bit surprised by the undiluted “inevitability” bullcrap the Obamedia are shoveling in their frantic attempts to get McCain/Palin voters to stay home on Tuesday.
Because, you see, they saw it all before during the primaries:
This is really intended for Republicans who did not follow the primaries on the Democrats’ side this year (because, well, we guess you took a nice long Atlantis cruise to Mars, in which case, color us jealous).
The same pattern that unfolded during our primaries is happening again, because the media has just one tattered old used playbook (written by David Axelrod, of course), and they have not deviated from it yet. What the media and Obama campaign did, in concert, to Hillary Clinton before every major primary is what they are doing to McCain/Palin now. Here are the top three media/Obama head tricks to watch out for in the last days before the election.
If you, collectively, can keep Republicans and other McCain voters from falling for these, we believe there’s nothing Obama can do to win this election. The ONLY way McCain loses is if you Eeyores allow the media to keep you from the polls.
Head Games Coming Your Way:
Read the whole thing, it’s both encouraging, informative and funny as all Hell to read, but if you want a summary of the three things we will be seeing a LOT of these last few days, here it is:
(1) Calls for McCain to just give up and quit, because the race is over.
(2) Wild claims of Obama winning states that shock and surprise you.
(3) Repeated insistance that blacks and young people will decide this election, and they are all going to vote in record numbers for Obama.
Remember: The only ones who can lose this election are YOU.
Pass it on.
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I believe I’ll be taking time off from my busy schedule to help other people get to the polls regardless of their political leanings. Tuesday for republicans, Wednesday for demoncrats. This will be a first for me.
D’
October 31st, 2008 at 1:15 PMUsing
There is substantive statistical evidence that an Obama win is, if not inevitable, then certainly extremely likely. See this site for details. The proprietor is an Obama supporter but his methodology is sound, clearly explained, and completely transparant.
On a related note, the only comfort I could glean from a McCain victory would be the fact that, when his policies are actually enacted, the PUMA’s will be shitting bricks. If those dumbasses genuinely think McCain’s agenda is the closest to Clinton’s then there’s no hope for them. If they’re supporting McCain out of spite then they’re contemptible, petulant scum and, again, there’s no hope for them.
On a completely unrelated note, I would like to quickly apologise to those Rotties who responded to my post in the recent thread about Barbara West’s travesty of an interview with Joe Biden. I’ve been obscenely busy and haven’t had the time to compose a coherent contribution - you guys just keep waiting on the edge of your seats :em02:
October 31st, 2008 at 1:32 PMUsing
Muzzy sez:
Muzzy………………..GO FUCK YOURSELF.
October 31st, 2008 at 1:35 PMUsing
Coherent contribution. Yeah, I’m just perched here, on the edge of my seat, waiting for that.
October 31st, 2008 at 1:36 PMUsing
Misha: spreading the word as ordered, sir! I’ve updated a post of my own, adding credit back to you for it:
Inside the Obama Campaign - Secrets Revealed [Updated!]
October 31st, 2008 at 1:47 PMUsing
:em01: :em01: :em01: Nothing else to add.
:em99:
:em72: :em72: :em72:
The only thing completely transparent is you poor attempt at disinformation. jugears sunk his own boat with his loose talk.
:em01: If you think McCain is some kind of Buchannanite conservative there’s no hope for you.
October 31st, 2008 at 1:48 PMUsing
hamburglar wrote:
You sir, are no gentleman!
LC Darth Scoundrel wrote:
Listen, you dunderheaded threadshitting homunculus, when you see one of these —> :em02: it means the preceding line is a joke. I know no-one’s on tenterhooks for my response, I was being self-deprecating. The lesson here, is that while industrial strength solvents can be fun as well as useful, posting while under the influence of honking great clouds of drano fumes can severely impact your ability to post without looking like a twat.
October 31st, 2008 at 1:55 PMUsing
It’s interesting … I’m in the People’s Republic of California, and I voted early (last Saturday) and I saw no throng of early voters. I verified who I was, voted early, and was done less than 10 minutes after I started.
So where, oh where, is this massive throng of early Obama voters?
October 31st, 2008 at 1:56 PMUsing
When anyone sees your avatar it means the following post is a joke.
October 31st, 2008 at 2:04 PMUsing
L.C. Gunsniper
Your rebuttal of my cite consisted of three pixellated dog turds.
October 31st, 2008 at 2:08 PMUsing
Someone… No, EVERYONE needs to go shout this at Allahpundit and pelt him with copies of this PUMA-post.
Michelle gives him WAY too much traffic for his “we’re doomed” shtick.
- MuscleDaddy
October 31st, 2008 at 2:14 PMUsing
Sorry Muzzy. That right there disqualifies him from being sound, clear and transparent. That’s like asking William Ayers to give a sound, clear and transparent opinion about the Death Penalty for Domestic Terrorists.
October 31st, 2008 at 2:19 PMUsing
LC Mrs. M-ITT wrote:
You think Obama supporters are able to circumvent the rules of arithmetic??
This is a story about the guy who runs the site. He used the same system to predict that the Tampa Bay Rays would have a good season this year. He’s also correctly predicted the results of almost every primary. Just sayin’.
October 31st, 2008 at 2:24 PMUsing
Why yes, it did. I’ll award you another :em72: for your observational skills.
October 31st, 2008 at 2:27 PMUsing
Fine. Let him predict next weeks Powerball numbers and I’ll believe him.
October 31st, 2008 at 2:31 PMUsing
Prominent Dem lowers the definition of middle class Interesting read .. forward it on
October 31st, 2008 at 2:33 PMUsing
LC Mrs M-ITT
Uh, not an appropriate comparison.
October 31st, 2008 at 2:40 PMUsing
@ LC MuscleDaddy, Имперский Заключительный Ответ:
I certainly want to triumph, and will settle for just a bare squeak-by. But that, for me, is not the essential call . I just don’t fucking care if we’re doomed, Win, lose, or Charge-of-the-Light-Brigade futile. On the properly appointed day I am going to vote. :em96: For Mac. According to custom, I will dress up and wear my medals. If anyone tries to interfere, then I will end up on the local evening news. If any pollster tries to survey me upon leaving, I will be ready, both barrels loaded with a mix of buck, sarcasm, and verbal abuse.
October 31st, 2008 at 2:40 PMUsing
Sniff, sniff… is that a concern troll? Goebbels would be proud of you and yours, asshole:
October 31st, 2008 at 2:52 PMUsing
I like the HillBuzz comment about young voters. My daughter’s beau and I get along well. But he’s been trying to convince me that Obama really is the best choice. Yesterday he sends me an email:
I had to inform him that the deadline to register to vote in this election was two weeks ago. So that’s your big youth vote.
October 31st, 2008 at 3:09 PMUsing
And predicting a good season of Football is??
October 31st, 2008 at 3:12 PMUsing
muzzy spurts:
YOU sir are no gentleman……..
October 31st, 2008 at 3:36 PMUsing
LC Intellectual Conservative:
Cheezits Crispy, that means I must be somewhere in the low lower class. Along with three quarters of the staff at work.
October 31st, 2008 at 3:43 PMUsing
Muzzy,
Thank you for not just sharing your opinion, but your justification for it, and your willingness to actually debate it, at least to a point. I mean that, because it shows you have the potential to grow beyond the shallow soil of the left and intellectually invest yourself in a philosophy that demands something more if its adherants then a repeat of whatever the bubbleheads on the news are babbling about that hour. It also helps us to refine our skills and ability to put into writing the various reasons why we are right about so many of the topics we discuss.
Your sense of humor is appreciated, and I usually enjoy the back and forth, even when I have trouble believing that you actually believe whatever you said to touch off the conversation.
Having said that, bringing a poll compiled by an Obama supporter in The Year of Mammoth Hyperbole™ to this crowd and expecting a fair hearing is a little like marching through little Havana in Miami in a “Castro is GOD” t-shirt. You have the right to do it, but if you think you can do so unmolested, you have suffered a serious separation from reality.
October 31st, 2008 at 3:50 PMUsing
Have you seen the latest video from Moron.org?
I wonder how retarded one has to be if he still votes for this commie Obama after seeing this video.
You can actually put any name in the video (I used M. Moore)
October 31st, 2008 at 3:59 PMhttp://www.cnnbcvide.....7jExNDM2OQ
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How far under? I make roughly 11k. Am I considered middle class?
October 31st, 2008 at 4:01 PMUsing
LC SkyeChild:
Maybe we qualified all along for food stamps, even though we’re working. How depressing.
October 31st, 2008 at 4:06 PMUsing
LC Mrs. M-ITT™-Imperial Sniper sez:
Baseball! Don’t embarrass us!
October 31st, 2008 at 4:11 PMUsing
Simply remember one of my old sayings re: politics. “The word right means correct. Therefore what is left is wrong.”
October 31st, 2008 at 4:13 PMUsing
Baseball, Football…..just a bunch of overpaid jocks chasing someone else’s balls. :em99:
October 31st, 2008 at 4:39 PMUsing
Hoo-Ah, Mrs. M!
The only real competitive sports involve guns, bows, swords or internal-combustion-engines!
- MuscleDaddy
October 31st, 2008 at 4:52 PMUsing
This just in. Results of a poll among minority voters in this metropolitan area within the last week stated that 1/3 of respondents don’t like and won’t vote for Obama. If there’s nothing to this, why is B.O. stumping in states he’s supposed to have owned out of the gate? The source was not revealed. But if McCain wins here despite the Demoncrat cheating which is common knowledge, their media bull :em72: mill
October 31st, 2008 at 6:34 PMwill drive themselves the rest of the way to crazy. Nihilism is it’s own reward.
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Any victory by Obama will be phyrric at best. You simply cannot reason with or debate with his supporters…..at least those I’ve encountered. This guy is a god to them, coming from one individual, an atheist, I found it amusing. I pointed out to one man what happened to the democrats in ‘94. I have no doubt it would happen again should the country take a hard left turn. It will not survive the votors wrath, the country even more divided. And make no mistake this country is extremely divided; Obama will not unite it. My opinion of him well known among my associates; of course liberals blame it on conservatives, most conservatives have little use for liberals or their opinions…and it goes on. Simply put, will will not submit to them, end of story. From the almost ten per cent increase in firearms sales these last few months, to those incensed that Obama’s tax cut will increase welfare payments to those paying no taxes through the earned income credit. Nothing more than back door welfare. Growers hereabouts are complaining they cannot find people to pick, many illegals have either gone home or been deported. Now as for those welfare recipients, and remembering the field work I did as a young man, I have a suggestion…….
October 31st, 2008 at 6:45 PMUsing
@ LC Mrs. M-ITT™-Imperial Sniper:
I’ve never come up with a good one for baseball, but here is how I have always described football:
A buncha grown men running around chasing an oblate spheroid. As soon as they git their hands on it they give it to a guy in a striped shirt. The guy in the striped shirt puts in on the ground and they all back away from it. Foxtrot Tango Whiskey?!
They say it’s a game for men.
October 31st, 2008 at 7:07 PMUsing
All the hype of Election Day is the main reason that, after *I* vote, I’m going to keep the TV and computer completely away from all news sources. I do not want to deal wit the insane adrenalin rushes and heart palpitations associated with the idiocy of LameStream Media reporting.
I’ll sleep well, and wake up on Wednesday morning with a new president-elect either way, so I see no reason to go thru that particular roller-coaster ride.
Hm. Maybe I should set up an IM/GTalk/Twitter chat group just to indulge in silliness completely unrelated to Election Day. *snicker*
October 31st, 2008 at 7:37 PMUsing
LC Rurik sez:
Now, Rurik! EVERYONE knows you are supposed to lie to the exit pollers. Especially the little phenomenon from last election - that is, the young hottness College hottie, asking, who you voted for. Did I mention young and hot?
That’s why the exit polls were so scrod up, and everyone was so surprised about 11-ish.
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Muzzy:
At the risk of being accused of feeding-the-troll, I’m going to try and respond (just once!) nicely to the first part of your suggestions.
I do look at 538 dot com, every day. And Electoral-vote dot etc. I actually look at their data, and look at where their projections come from.
Then I take the polls apart from which they develop their projections.
I have been watching electoral vote since mid - 2003, and this is the third election I have followed with them. 538 is new to me this election, but I have been watching every day, for about 4 - 5 months.
They both seem to share the same problems.
1) As you note, they are both run by liberals, which seems to color their pre-dispositions, somewhat. Understandable, but hard to accept as definitive.
2) They both take the partisan polls into their accounting.
3) They both ignore the two polls closest to the election results in 2004 (Investors Business Daily (0.4% off in 2004) and Battleground (0.5% off in 2004), both of which currently are within the margin of error). Completely drop them from consideration.
I have developed a rule of thumb which works (for me) at e-v, and I suspect that something similar would work at 538. Take his numbers the Friday before the election (that is, today), break down ALL the state races, and subtract 3 percent from the Democrat, and add to the Republican.
Yes, I know, but in 2004, E-V was showing Kerry at 283, Bush 246 in the Electoral Votes. Three states (FL, IA, and NV) were wrong per their projections.
Following this formula this year seems to put me firmly into 269-269 territory - that is, this weekend will tell the tale.
Other “tells:”
1) If PA was really O + 11 points, nobody would be spending a dime there. Instead, we have both campaigns working their asses off in PA, OH, FL, VA, NV, MO, NC, and May the Lord have Mercy, New Hampshire (!). This is not a “decided” race. Otherwise, The Obaminable one wouldn’t be spending money like it’s water.
2) Most of the polls showing more than a 2 - 3 point national lead are skewed (oversampled) to the Democrat side - that is, since 1980, the electoral population that actually drags their lazy asses to the polling place and shows up has been within one point of 39 percent Dem, 35 percent Rep. This year, I see a LOT of polls, from major organizations (*cough* NBCHotlineCBSGallupABC *cough*) showing a weighting of 45 - 50 percent D and 20 - 28 percent R. Ain’t never happened, and never will.
3) While the early vote seems to be turning out D’s more than R’s, the exit polls seem to be closer than the turn out numbers - that is, some D’s are voting R.
4) The Democrat and Republican early vote strategies are different. Just ask Karl. Since 1996, Republican early vote strategy has been to get people in that you weren’t sure was gonna show up on election day. The college student who may get drunk / high / laid on election day. The arthritic grandmother, who may be having a bad day in November. The Democrat E-V tends to “cannibalize” the election day vote. That is, they bring in early the ones who are gonna vote anyway.
5) NONE of the projections are taking into account the various ballot measures that are up this season. For instance, in that bluest of blue states, there is a traditional marriage ballot measure on the ballot, defining marriage as one man, one woman, and screw the Kalifornistan supreme court. Seems to be bringing Republicans out of the woodwork.
6) Don’t forget the PUMAs. The Obaminable one is missing about 14 - 16 percent of his base, and doesn’t know it.
7) A hell of a lot of people wanna shove the election up Chris Matthews and Keith Olberman’s asses, this year.
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None of this is, of course, anything other than spitballin’ on my part, but I really believe Palin / Whatshisname is gonna pull this out. It certainly ain’t gonna be a landslide.
October 31st, 2008 at 8:22 PMUsing
Check this out, Just came across Drudge. This could prove a horse race. I thought I had felt it tightening……last minute doubts about the messiah. Damn, what a bloodbath this will be..or the media realizing the public may hold them accountable should something unforeseen happen……unforseen my rosey red ass.
October 31st, 2008 at 9:11 PMUsing
I’ve stayed away from the whole thing once I made my reasoning known more than a month ago. One reason is that I have a lot of respect for all (OK, most) of the denizens here and time and again you have proven that respect deserved. I didn’t want to get into pointless arguments with those I respect. As for those trolls who show up here I just don’t give a crap about your opinion so why waste my time on you?
The way I figure it is simple. No one can know outcome of most hotly contested races, no matter how enthusiastic, or not, you are. All you can do is try to figure out who the best (or at a minimum the least bad) candidate is and vote for them. I don’t let polls influence my vote. I don’t care if my choice for an office has no chance at winning according to all the pundits, otherwise my free will choice isn’t really free will at all. It’s not a winning move to jump on a bandwagon just because that candidate is winning the election it just means that anyone who does that is a sycophant and not deserving of having a vote in the first place.
I am glad to see many here come to the same conclusion I did about McCain. For all his faults he is an order of magnitude better than Obama could ever be. He has backed some ideas I heartily dislike but at least I trust him on what matters most to me.
I hope McCain not only wins but by a significant number. Chances of that happening? Slim or none and slim just up and left town. It’s like when I buy a lottery ticket every month or two. I don’t really think I’m going to win but I just like to dream about it and I get more entertainment out of those daydreams than most of the Hollywood dreck in the movie theaters and it costs a whole lot less so I indulge myself.
I already voted for McCain. I’m going to be an election judge and I voted absentee because I won’t be working at my own precinct. The upside of working as an election judge is that I am forbidden by law from discussing anything about the election. The downside is getting up at 4 a.m. in order to be out at the polling place at 5:30 to be ready for a 6 a.m. opening.
Once I’m checked out after the election I plan on heading home and crashing. If I happen to wake up in the middle of the night I’ll just roll over and wait for morning. I don’t plan on wasting my time watching the tube biting my nails. If Obama wins ignorance is bliss and if McCain wins everything will be alright - not great, but alright.
October 31st, 2008 at 11:11 PMUsing
LC NevadaDailySteve Imperial Scrivener sez:
Yeah, I’m not sure I want to watch either. I have a good friend who is a local talk show host and his station is broadcasting from GOP headquarters on election night. I’ll listen to him on the way home from the night classes I teach, but will probably hang out here when I get home…….
I hope McCain wins as I don’t think I’ll be able to deal with the smugness and gloating that’s sure to come with an odumbo win. It will be sickening
Hey Management!!! waddya say to opening up the Instant Bark on election night??? :em93:
October 31st, 2008 at 11:22 PMUsing
I second the election night instant bark. My current plan is turn the tube on around 22:00 CST with a couple of beers. It isnt necesarily the result of the election Im looking for… its the behavior of the masses. …. I want to get a grasp on how my “assesment” plays out.
DOG and I JUST LOVE FIREWORKS
Some one mentioned DFP’s (defensive fighting positions for you non-milspeak types), did I mention that a good fire extingusher is required? They also make good field expiedient weapons (only for temporary incapcitation / irritation) and temporary concealment (not to be confused with cover) gernerators.
November 1st, 2008 at 11:06 AMUsing
Muzzy sez:
there are lies, damn lies, then there are “statistics.”
November 1st, 2008 at 12:38 PMUsing
Okay, again I will express my concern. As the media is soooooooo fond of “calling” an election before the votes are even counted (like when they call it with less than 1% of precincts having voted), what’s to prevent them from “calling” the election for Bambi even if he doesn’t win?
When they call it, they award the electoral votes. Why don’t they wait until the votes are counted?
November 1st, 2008 at 2:32 PMUsing