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Yes and No, Ed. Yes and No [Updated]
Posted by: Emperor Misha I in Blogs and Blogging, Politics, The Obamessiah4:29 PM
Ed Morrissey warns against the onset of Obama Derangement Syndrome, a sentiment we can certainly agree with to a point, even though it’s not like the Anointed One and his Nutroots don’t deserve a taste of their own medicine.
But he uses some mightily strange examples to prove his point.
For one thing, he (and Jake Tapper) uses these comments from Congressman Broun (R-GA) as a perfect example of it. Granted, Congressman Broun may be extrapolating a bit here based on what precious little evidence we have, thanks to Obambi and his minions in the Obamedia’s successful disinformation campaign, but Ed’s visceral response to this “canard”, as he calls it, is certainly not based on reality:
“We can’t be lulled into complacency,” Broun said. “You have to remember that Adolf Hitler was elected in a democratic Germany. I’m not comparing him to Adolf Hitler. What I’m saying is there is the potential.”
To which Ed responds:
No, he wasn’t. Hitler was never elected to any office. He became Chancellor because of a deal struck between political factions warring with each other in the twilight of Weimar Germany, appointed to the position by President von Hindenburg. The Nazis never even won a majority in the Reichstag, and in fact lost seats in the last free elections before Hitler became Chancellor.
Why yes, Ed, but that’s a big whopping non sequitur right there. You can be forgiven for not knowing how parliamentary systems work, though, so allow me to enlighten you since I’m intimately familiar with how they work, having grown up under one: That is the case for pretty much any leader selected under such a system. They’re all appointed by getting together a sufficiently large coalition to push the appointment through. I may have missed one, but I think I’m on pretty safe ground when I say that if your criterion for being “democratically elected” is a majority of the vote, then there has never been a democratically elected leader of a parliamentarian government. Which, I guess, means that they were all “a lot like Hitler” in your book. Sorry, couldn’t resist.
Furthermore, what Congressman Broun is saying isn’t that, because Obambi was democratically elected just like Hitler, then it logically follows that he is a lot like Hitler. That would leave a whole lot of Hitlers walking around out there, and I honestly don’t believe that anybody would be daft enough to say that.
What he is doing is deflecting the usual canard, and this really is a canard, that “because he was democratically elected, then he can’t be like Hitler, because Hitler wasn’t.”
Bzzzzt… Wrong. Because Hitler was, under the rules of a parliamentary system. That he later usurped all power for himself under the Enabling Act is irrelevant. He got to a position where he could do so purely through democratic means. Which is perhaps one of the strongest arguments against democracy that you can make, if it wasn’t because all of the alternatives are infinitely worse.
I agree with Ed that one should think long and carefully before drawing out Hitler parallels, lest one end up in Kostard territory, but I would like to remind him that Godwin’s Law doesn’t apply when the parallels are actually there. Cult of personality, animosity toward free speech, required oops, airbrush time, “encouraged” participation in a massive youth organization, shared socialist ideology and much, much more.
This is not saying that he is Hitler, but that’s not what Congressman Broun is saying either. He’s merely pointing out that it would be folly to become complacent, that seemingly perfectly innocuous and democratically elected people have taken their peoples by surprise before.
Unless, of course, one subscribes to the notion that the Germans were by nature a bunch of bloodthirsty, Jew-hating Nazis who knew exactly what they were getting into all along and loved every minute of it. One might want to present that theory to a survivor of Hamburg, Dresden or Berlin. If one could find one.
No, let’s not go off the deep end, but let’s not put on blindfolds and become ignorant of history simply because it wouldn’t be “nice” to point out the parallels.
Eternal vigilance.
Thatisall.
[Update from a different location: I ran this short article tonight on-air. While it reeked of a direct connection between the two, I failed miserably to point out the differences in government (I was up against the time clock) and the parliamentary procedures unlike our own. For that I was wrong not to amplify the remarks a bit further, instilling the truth to our loyal listeners. My humble and sincere apologies since I profess to bring the "Truth" to the airwaves. I bow to the Emperor's better graces, analysis and concur, completely-JB ]
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Indeed. Here is where we fall into the “those who ignore history are doomed to repeat it” mantra. We’ll give him a chance to see if he can make it as good as his followers thought it sounded. But we’ll be watching for signs that it may not, and taking action to rectify it as required.
November 11th, 2008 at 4:45 PMUsing
Obama Derangement Syndrome. It’s way too damn late. I’ve been displaying the symptoms for months.
Do you think there’s a cure?
November 11th, 2008 at 4:54 PMUsing
Guns, ammo and a “come get’em motherfucker” attitude
November 11th, 2008 at 4:58 PMUsing
Ah, but read my other post re: BDS and this. over at the “Launch Pad” post.
November 11th, 2008 at 5:04 PMUsing
A fellow Christian sent out an email with some verbiage that equated Obama to apocalyptic prophecy, and got lambasted by some of the members of his DL (mostly Christians, mind you). It’s the same logic, and it’s exactly what I told him: I think it’s something people need to be aware of. Chances are, it’s not going to be that way. But we have a generation (and more) of people who consider BHO to be the person they’ve devoted their lives to, and that’s plumb scary. While I think most Republicans showed loyalty to GWB or Reagan, I wouldn’t classify it as holding them above any other including God. I absolutely see these types of things at the moment with BHO.
And if it DOES happen, the clueless morons who simply voted for the “Flavor Of The Month” could very well lose their ability to protest once their right to dissent with free speech is trampled upon (which is ABSOLUTELY would if he does become the next Hugo Chavez).
I see BHO’s hiring of a descendant of a militant Israeli as an illusion. It’s an obvious move because of the attacks on his Muslim heritage. Who knows what Obama has up his sleeve? Of course Emanuel is a disciple of the Chicago Political Machine, which only further undermines the legitimacy of future elections. We’ll see what happens, but I’m sure that the PC crowd will condemn any attempts to alert the populace to potential threats on their rights.
November 11th, 2008 at 5:14 PMUsing
ODS? No….just taking all that damn stinking BDS that has been piling up down in the Imperial Basement and recycling it right back at the bastards that regurgitated it in the first place. Gotta go Green ya know.
Dumb twats. They can dish it out, but they turn into whiny assed, shitty diapered rug rats when they have to eat the shit they created.
November 11th, 2008 at 5:14 PMUsing
I think any Hitler parallels should be made by pointing out the things that Democrats (including Oblahma) have in common. Lord knows they have more in comming with the Nazis than any conservatives out there.
RWR
November 11th, 2008 at 5:32 PMhttp://www.rightwingrocker.com
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@ LC cmblake6, Imperial Black Ops Technician:
Straight up bro.
What he does well, we shall commend him for; and what he screws up, we shall come down hard for.
It’s called “fairness”.
RWR
November 11th, 2008 at 5:34 PMhttp://www.rightwingrocker.com
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@ LC + IB Gutshot:
Indeed, there is nothing to guarantee that Obama is the Anti-Christ. Probability says he most likely isn’t. Consider this, though. If you believe as many other Christians do, that Satan is essentially in control of this world for now (until Jesus returns and kicks his a$$, that is), then it is Satan who makes ready the Anti-Christ. However, since da Debil don’ know just when Jesus will be back to finish what He started 2000 years ago, ol’ Satan’s gotta have someone ready in each generation or era who can easily become the Anti-Christ.
For instance, Hitler certainly could have been the AC, had God decided to send Jesus back during the 1930’s. He was charismatic and had other qualities that may have qualified him for the job. But, since Jesus didn’t come back in the manner prescribed in Scripture, Hitler was definitely not the Anti-Christ. But we could certainly say he was recruited for the job, had the position become available for filling.
That is certainly not to say that Obama is even an AC recruit for this era.
Food for thought.
November 11th, 2008 at 6:03 PMUsing
In this case vigorous use of the 25th Amendment.
November 11th, 2008 at 6:17 PMUsing
ODS?
Say it out loud!
:em01: :em01: :em01: :em01:
November 11th, 2008 at 6:20 PMUsing
Red Five sez:
If the Biblical teachers are correct, the AC is going to be born in the ME, and will fool the majority of the world, even Christians. Maybe that’s why he won’t release his birth certificate?
I don’t believe he’s the anti-christ, and I don’t really believe that the devil is “in charge.” God is still in charge. Satan only has the power that the Almighty (the REAL Almighty, not the black racist one) grants him.
November 11th, 2008 at 6:24 PMUsing
Actualyy we need to give the libtards a careful and measured dose of ODS just so we can record the response.
Thus we have ready proof on hand of their double standard. Nothing beasts a twerp who says, “I never said that”, faster than playing him the tape.
If nothing else he goes off the deep end. :em93:
November 11th, 2008 at 6:36 PMUsing
@ LC Old Dog SFC USA (RET): EXCELLENT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
November 11th, 2008 at 7:37 PMUsing
LC SkyeChild G.L.O.R., Imperial Grammar Hun sez:
As I said, I’m not about labeling anyone a Hitler or an Antichrist. Honestly, I think that everyone could use a good lesson in the history of Hitler, because I think that they have scrubbed a lot of that from today’s curriculum (I’ll raise my hand as the first one that needs a lesson). And in the same breath, each person should understand what their devotion to Obama (or any other person) indicates.
No, I think we need to be somewhat sensible about the garbage that we say about Obama. In fact, it’s the Press that’s the most culpable, because they refuse to investigate anything about the guy. And with the info leaked from the face-to-face w/ GWB, you can immediately see that the Obama Administration will be even more diligent in controling the media and using it to spread its propaganda.
Again, my biggest fear is that the gullible sheep who drank the KoolAid will wise up, only to realize that they have no way to reverse the cyanide pill they swallowed.
November 11th, 2008 at 8:35 PMUsing
I happen to concur with Congressman Broun’s cautious vigilance. Because, quite frankly, have we EVER had another President-elect who:
1) Had the anti American associations Obama has - including those who have conspired to overthrow the govt.
2) Was so heavily into propagandist art and props. Fake presidential possum seal, anyone?
3) Created an Office of the President-Elect, complete with Oval Office-type backdrop from which to hold press conferences.
4) Has a close advisor who blurts out that he can’t wait to “take power” and “rule” from Day 1?
5) Has spoken on more than one occasion of the desire to create a well-funded civil defense force under his direction.
6) Has actively and aggressively sought to stifle opposing speech.
7) Has not apologized for the abuse of government power that his campaign used to investigate and persecute a private citizen.
… crap … there’s just too much there to blithely ignore. How many German people warned about Hitler in advance? I wonder how many of their fellow countrymen laughed at them?
November 11th, 2008 at 8:38 PMUsing
I don’t claim to be an expert in very many things but regarding Bible prophecy, I have about 35 years of study under my belt. Forgive the following dissertation but I think it is important for LCs to know a little about the matter of “Is Obama the Anti-Christ” so we can dispel myth as it arises.
Now I know some of you are not Bible believers but grant for just a moment that there is specific Biblical teaching on the matter of the antichrist (a term, BTW, that is rarely used in the Bible - instead, terms like The Man of Sin [2Thessalonians 2:3] The Son of Perdition [2Thessalonians 2:3] and The Lawless One [2Thessalonians 2:8] are more common). According the Scripture, Obama ain’t him.
Here are a few things to bear in mind:
A. The Lawless One does not need to, indeed, WILL NOT make an appearance until all relevant prophecies have been fulfilled. These include: Israel being reborn as a nation (1948), Jerusalem being reclaimed as the nation of Israel’s capital (1969) and most importantly, the move by Iran and Russia against Israel. While Satan may have some Lawless One waiting in the wings at any given moment, he has not had to have such a person ready until after the events of 1969.
B. Hitler could NOT have been the Lawless One. Why? Setting aside for a moment that Hitler was the opposite of a friend of the Jews, none of the above three Last Days prophecies had been fulfilled at the time Hitler was alive. All one had to do to tell if Adolf was the Lawless One would be to check to see if Israel was a nation yet: checking… Nope, not yet.
C. Is Obama the Lawless One (LO)? We know that the LO will arise out of the a reformulated Roman Empire. Obama is neither a Western nor an Eastern European (remember, there were two legs of the original Roman Empire, the second one was ruled from Constantinople and lasted for centuries beyond the Empire of the Caesars - so we don’t really know which of these two areas will birth the LO). But regardless, Obama is not a candidate.
D. The United States has to COMPLETELY abandon Israel in order to make smooth the path for the LO to arise. As long as we protect Israel, he can’t, and won’t be revealed. The Scripture is VERY clear that the Israelies make a treaty with the LO (who evidently will be a charismatic, apparently honorable, respectable, and powerful leader - someone the Jews will intrinsically trust as being their true Messiah) as their political and military savior. Again, no way that the Jews would perceive Obama to be such a man, even if he were European. This protection treaty will be signed after an amazing war with Russia and Iran (referenced in the prophecy found in Ezekiel 38:1-7 which I won’t take space to quote here) in which those two countries are vanquished. It is critically important to note two things about this prophesy:
a. According to Ezekiel’s prophecy, Iran and Russia apparently have cart blanche to make their move against Israel. They apparently know that NO ONE will stand up to protect her and thus, the Iranians and Russians (Persia and Magog in Scripture) have no doubt that Israel is ripe for the taking.
b. Iran and Russia LOSE this war, not because of Israel’s military might, but rather, due to some unexplained natural disaster that destroys their invading force.
What this means to prophecy geeks like me is that the US is either unwilling of unable to come to the aid of Israel and has either been neutered somehow or has telegraphed that we intend to stay out of future conflicts in the Middle East (maybe we turn their protection over to the UN?). As we all know, as long as a Bush, Reagan, or even a Clinton was in the White House, there is simply no way that this prophecy could have been fulfilled. All of these presidents and their Israel supporting predecessors have been unwittingly forestalling the Last Days with their foreign policy posture vis a vis Israel. In other words, as long as the US stands by Israel, Russia and Iran will not attempt to invade Israel as prophesied by Ezekiel.
So let’s put the pieces together.
1. Israel IS a nation and DOES have Jerusalem restored to them. Two of the three major “Lawless One revealed” prophecies fulfilled.
2. No invasion from Iran and Russia yet (the next thing on the Biblical prophetic calendar - except for the Harpazo* of course) so we need to be looking for a situation wherein the US abandons Israel, leaving her unprotected and vulnerable.
3. Next, she will be attacked and then spared through, what should be and is intended to be, an obvious intervention by God Himself. The reason for this little drama is it is clearly God’s intent to send a message to the Jews that THEY DO NOT NEED THE UNITED STATES OR ANYONE ELSE TO PROTECT THEM as long as they rely on Him. Will they?
Sadly, no.
The Bible goes on to say that they wipe the sweat off their collective brows and thank their lucky stars that some mysterious natural disaster wiped out the Iranian and Russian armies. Whew! saved in the nick of time. They then decide that, given the US is no longer able to protect them, and given that they almost were wiped off the face of the planet by their mortal enemies to the north, they believe they need someone new to protect them. Thus, they make the fateful pact with the Lawless One, thinking him to be the long awaited Messiah.
So how does Obama figure in this? A couple of things come to mind:
1. His rise to power proves that many people in these latter days will abandon all logic and rational thought in their longing for someone to save them from the chaos of this world (something the Bible does predict as well). As flawed as Obama is, he gives hope (false as it may be) to millions. Just imagine if a guy came on the scene with Obama’s charisma but without all his baggage? Someone who DOES have the bona fides and the gravitas required to dupe EVERYONE. Imagine another Ronald Reagan type of guy but with more of a global peace agenda.
2. Obama may end up being The One who fulfills a foundational prerequisite to the Last Day prophecies. HE might be the one that abandons Israel, making way for the events that culminate in the coming war between Iran/Russia and Israel. If he, or one of his like minded successors do that, at that point, it will be an inexorable march toward the end.
By the way, I am as sure that something like I describe above will take place as I am of my own existence. It was predicted and it is coming to pass just as the Bible has said it would. It makes obvious sense based on the events of the last 70 years.
Hang on, its going to be an amazing and bumpy ride.
*The Harpazo (Greek for “the snatching away”) is what we call the Rapture of Believers. The Bible is clear that the Harpazo happens prior to the Lawless One being revealed. What this means to me is that, it is likely that Bible-believing Christians will not be on earth to see the Jews make their treaty with this European superstar. Only non-believers who still have their heads on straight will realize what is going on. However, I don’t intend to hang around. :em04:
November 11th, 2008 at 8:43 PMUsing
Barack Obama has been elected President of the United States that is an historic fact.
Barack Obama has ZERO experience running a Kool-Aid stand let alone a business of any size. That is an historic fact.
Barack Obama has demonstrated either incredibly stupid selection of friends, colleagues or mentors or is willing to dump them to gain election. That is an historic fact.
Barack Obama will either sign or veto legislation passed by a Radical Left-Left Center Congress. That is an absolute fact.
Barack Obama has much to prove to the 144 million Americans that did not vote for him. Will he honor or renege on his campaign promises?
I really couldn’t care less about him. The questions surrounding him have not disappeared. The stigma of Marx and Mao hang around him like that of 4 day rotting fish combined with 4 day rotton eggs.
About the only thing that can be said of his reign is that conservatives will have a field day for the next four years.
November 11th, 2008 at 8:56 PMUsing
@ LC GodIsMyJudge, Servant of the Most High:
November 11th, 2008 at 10:46 PMThat’s exactly right :em04:
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Nice to hear from a fellow believer!!
I’m looking up, but i will still wield the sword.The Lord never told us to disarm at any time.
I’m not convinced that the obamination is the anti-one, but it doesn’t hurt to be prepared.
He could very well be the precipitator of the Anti-Christ.
After all, He never said we wouldn’t have to see ANY bad times….
There is, however the condition of the generation that sees Israel become a nation again not perishing before the END.
There isn’t a lot of time left….
Paraphrase, ‘Whenyou see these things, LOOK UP!!’
November 11th, 2008 at 11:14 PMUsing
On a sillier note, I saw Obam-bam on the Fox News tonight, and HE WINKED AT THE CAMERA!
Alright, Leftists! go apeshit!!! I mean, get this screen cap OUT there IMMEDIATELY!!!
When Sarah winked at the camera, the Enemies immediately uploaded the still shot with vicious, sneering commentary and spread it all over the Net. Time’s a-wasting, boyz! get the lead out of your ass and get on the job!
God, how I detest liberals.
November 12th, 2008 at 12:19 AMUsing
It’s only a “derangement syndrome” if the critiques of Obama are illegitimate or unfactual — indeed, slanderous. (ex., Bush=Hitler, Bush lied/ppl died, etc.)
Furthermore, a Congressman advising an historically-informed cautiousness about Obama given the President-Elect’s (a) Marxist leanings, (b) associations with anarcho-terrorists & corrupt social/political figures, (c) disquieting ability to generate about himself an irrational cult of personality based on rhetoric and emotionality, and (d) demonstrably-massive ego.
Not to mention that one of Obama’s first priorities is apparently the establishment of a “Civilian National Security Force,” subject to (I assume) neither Congressional oversight nor military restrictions (like the 1878 Posse Comitatus Act).
Show me an accusation of Obama that is hyperbolically slanderous and I will agree with the labelling of ODS on that person. But labelling legit criticisms as ODS is an attempt to shut down the dialogue and impose censorship.
November 12th, 2008 at 12:36 AMUsing
@ Harpazo:
Indeed. Excellent points.
@ LC SleepTech: SandMan of the Empire: @20
November 12th, 2008 at 1:35 AMIndeed again. And I as well. We were given free will to do the Lords will, and stand as warriors on this plane. I am eclectic, but as I’ve said, there is some truth to all, all truth to none. If you’ve got to pick just one, it’s really hard to go wrong with Christianity. With a warrior ethic.I’ve been dead, I’ve been there. I have a slightly different perspective I think.
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I do believe that Obama may be an anti-Christ, but I do not believe he is The capital A Anti-Christ. Anyone who is against Christ could be considered anti-Christ. I also believe people in general use the term too easily. It’s like crying “Wolf!” When he actually does show up, nobody is going to pay any attention.
November 12th, 2008 at 2:58 AMUsing
Just to weigh in really briefly on the Anti-Christ thing - there really isn’t going to be any doubt. The anti-Christ is going to work real, verifiable miracles, things that can’t be explained any other way. When I see that happening, I will know. Until then there may be many evil and charismatic men and women who may do much damage; but anti-Christ they aren’t.
November 12th, 2008 at 3:02 AMUsing
I was telling my ex-wife earlier today, “Keep an eye out for a mysterious fire in Congress.”
(By which I mean, some circumstantial event that allows Obama and the Dems to grab even more power. A fire, of course, would be too obvious.)
November 12th, 2008 at 3:22 AMUsing
Fortunately, if one is a believer, one will have been caught up and be “outta here” when this happens. Of course, the other key give-away will be when some European politician makes a defense pact with Israel and then, exactly 3.5 years later breaks that pact and sets himself up as a world ruler.
The Bible is clear that, since no one knows the day nor hour of Christ’s return for His people (i.e. it is “imminent”) that it would be impossible for a knowledgeable Christian believers to be around to witness the events described above and not also know the exact day that Christ would return. Ergo, said, believers have to gone.
Chuck Missler has stated that he believes that the very event of the Harpazo precipitates the rise of the Lawless One. Someone will have to come onto the scene to explain away the disappearance of millions of people. That explanation may very well be that the Earth has been “visited” and the Lawless One will present himself as an emissary from these Visitors: “your planet is in a mess, and we’ve come to straighten things out”. The Emissary could tell everyone that the “people” he represents took care of the evil Religious Right that was standing in the way of world peace and harmony in order to make way for the New World Order.
People are suckers for this kind of stuff already in the movies and I can imagine that Visitors arriving on the scene to set things straight would work as a powerful lie (what the Bible calls “The Lie”) to get people in line.
Of course, there are no aliens, but taking advantage of the gullible is just the kind of thing Satan is good at.
P.S. I agree about the antichrist with the small “c”. Jeremiah Wright comes to mind.
November 12th, 2008 at 6:40 AMUsing
LC SleepTech: SandMan of the Empire sez:
Luke 22
35Then Jesus asked them, “When I sent you without purse, bag or sandals, did you lack anything?”
“Nothing,” they answered.
36He said to them, “But now if you have a purse, take it, and also a bag; and if you don’t have a sword, sell your cloak and buy one.
November 12th, 2008 at 8:44 AMUsing
One interesting fact about Bible prophecy: Who would have thought, millenia ago, that war in the Middle East could precipitate world conflict. Now, however, with oil issues, religious turmoil and conflicts already raging… who would deny that it is the world’s powder keg?
That alone should be worrisome.
Something big is looming on the horizon, and Obama will play his part. I don’t see him as the anti-christ, but who knows? The thing will have to play itself out, and only with hindsight will we know for sure.
November 12th, 2008 at 9:50 AMUsing
Dear Leader Barack Hussein Obama from me will get no more or no less the respect that the left gave President Bush for the last 8 yrs. Till they come for me for the re-education camp, they can all kiss my fat hairy ass! My blog will be used as a tool to annoy, shock and horrify the liberal left at any and all opportunity I get! It’s not that I don’t hope Obama is “Good” president, Good being my interpretation of the word and meaning, but I have all the faith in the world that the Obamessiah will in all likelyhood replace Jimmy Carter as the most failed President in history. It’s actually sad. The first black president and not because of race but because of his ideology will doom the Obamessiah to his legacy as a failure and a schmuck!
November 12th, 2008 at 10:23 AM:em96:
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AT WHAT POINT CAN WE SAY THAT RUTH BADER GINSBURG IS MENTALLY DERANGED AND HAVE HER CARTED OFF THE SUPREME COURT IN A STRAIGHT JACKET??????????
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/27678464/wid=18298287
Yes because I’d rather have all these beautiful whales swimming around while we live under the iron boot of fascism because our Navy couldn’t perform sonar exercises
DAMN I CAN’T WAIT TILL ALL THE WOODSTOCK ASSHOLES ARE DEAD!!!! FUCKING WHACKJOB HIPPIE ASSHOLES!!!! :em96: :em96: :em96: :em96: :em96: :em96: :em96: :em96: :em96:
November 12th, 2008 at 10:23 AMUsing
What’s a “nutroot”?
November 12th, 2008 at 10:25 AMUsing
@ mayim:
Oy! from some of our recent “interactions”…. I’de say you can easily determine that by looking in the mirror…..
@ LC Xealot:
There is ALWAYS something looming on the horizon.. its the human condition. Cant have good without bad, cant have peace without war, cant have rich without poor.
Obama’s evil revolves around his narcissitic behaviors, he highly over-estimates himself. I have not seen one moment of genuine personality from him yet. The problem is that he doesnt even realize he’s no better than a B rated actor.
November 12th, 2008 at 10:53 AMUsing
@ Terrible Troy
Reagan was a B rated actor. Obama is nowhere near the caliber Reagan was. How dare you insult the dead!
November 12th, 2008 at 12:00 PMUsing
@ Marinia:
MY BAD! You are absolutly correct! I must go atone for my sins now… dammers this whole atonement thing is getting old …… :em41:
November 12th, 2008 at 12:10 PMUsing
Atonement requires watching any movie with Reagan and a chimp. Carry on…
November 12th, 2008 at 12:21 PMUsing
Ahhhh MAAAAAN !!! Shit!….. Bedtime for Bonzo it is then……. :em04:
November 12th, 2008 at 12:32 PMUsing
This quote seems to ignore a major change in our current reality. That being that there have always been general crises and catastrophes looming but now, we can easily foresee The major catastrophe that now awaits us. This coming catastrophe could never have previously happened without several major changes in world politics.
Keep in mind, this planet is now in a completely “other” political place than it was 2 weeks ago. While the world still had one free society as the single super power, it still had some hope for the future. There is now, no going back. The planet is now on a trajectory toward one world globalism. This is what the population wants.
This is a completely different paradigm than the previous nation vs. nation, “one is up, one is down, but the one that is down will be up again someday”, kind of situation. What I am saying is that the election of Obama is a sea-change and a Pandora’s box.
So the thing looming on the horizon now is a completely different thing than this planet has ever seen. And it can only get ugly.
November 12th, 2008 at 12:53 PMUsing
Blue Helmeted warriors stationed in American cities, keeping the peace. It’s looming on the horizon. Loss of our sovereignty, it’s a comin’ folks. Imagine Third World Toilets like Iran, Zimabwe, China, anything ending with “stan” telling the U.S. how to operate and conduct themselves. Waterless toilets (a greenie euphamism for “shitting in a bucket”), and any other “progressive”, or “environmentally friendly” solution to reduce us to their squalor. It’s the Change Obama’s gonna bring to the world that the ObamaKids were singing about. Get ready for it.
Yeehaw, Comrades. It’s going to be quite a ride!
Everything within the State, Nothing Outside the State!
November 12th, 2008 at 1:02 PMUsing
Ultimately… here’s the way I see it… if things go real south… ultimately our good will prevail… we’ve done it before and I see no reason why we cant do it again. There has ALWAYS been ugly…. there has always been conflict…just because you see a horse of a different color doesnt necessarily mean the horse cant be ridden. Maybe its the eternal optomist in me that prepares for the worst so everything seems like gravy…. if there has to be a conflict I can only find solace that I know I am on the correct side. Regarding my relationship with GOD, my mortality and my “afterlife” I am comfortable with that too. What is to be , will be. This will not stop nor hinder my participation or efforts to influence events. I am after all … in GODS HANDS. :em04:
November 12th, 2008 at 1:07 PMUsing
Sooo many frayed ends, cross threaded concepts,, loose nutz.
Until they hate unemployment and lethargy more than they hate employers, it’s freakin’ on, and it ain’t stoppin” ’till that particular condition is,,, fixed.
‘Most anything shiny I ever had in my life arrived crusted, busted, and I fixed it.
‘Sometimes all it takes is just the right wrench in the right hands, applying the right torque to just the right spot.
We do so have the tools, ‘just gotta get after allllll them loose nutz, ’start crankin’.
November 12th, 2008 at 1:25 PMUsing
I had an interesting exchange with an Obama supporter (she had the sticker on her car) today, she sneered at my Palin sticker and said “Well, that didn’t work out for you, did it.” I told her that’s fine, now it’s my turn to show her President (who by the way was helped in his election by a tongue bathing media as well as voter and campaign finance fraud) the same kind of respect and support that she had shown George W. Bush for the last 8 years. The look was priceless, and the conversation ended abruptly right there.
Yep, ODS. Stand the fuck by.
November 12th, 2008 at 6:56 PMUsing
I note that while Congressman Broun wasn’t around for the PATRIOT Act, he DID vote for HR 6304.
There’s going to be a nationwide epedemic of selective amnesia in the next few years, with a lot of Republicans pretending to forget that Obama is merely using the same unconstitutional powers they heartily approved for George W. Bush, and many, many Democrats pretending to forget what they used to think of the PATRIOT Act, warrantless wiretaps, indefinite detention of American citizens without trial, access to legal counsel or charges, a president having the power to unilaterally declare ANYBODY a “terrorist” and thereby deprive them of their rights, and the Führerprinzip in general. It sure didn’t take long for Fox News long to drop the “ein Volk, ein Reich ein Führer” crap, or for Olbertwat & Co to take it up…
Over the past several years I have been telling Bush apologists to imagine what kind of fun someone like Hillary Clinton (and in the last couple years, the Mocha Messiah) could have turning the provisions of PATRIOT and Military Commissions Act, etc, against, say… RKBA activists and FFLs. Far-fetched, you say? We’ve already seen the PATRIOT act used to bust a New Orleans cathouse, and in other cases having nothing to do with terrorism…
The intellectually honest among former Bush apologists are going to regret having painted themselves into an executive-aggrandizing corner on some of this stuff. The strictly partisan, as I said above, will simply turn on a dime.
November 13th, 2008 at 12:25 PMUsing
Whereas Ed Morrissey comes out shrieking about ODS, Camille Paglia (yes, CAMILLE PAGLIA) offers a refreshing look from the other side of the aisle, one Democrats should take heed over:
http://www.salon.com.....print.html
And yes, I did have to read it twice, just to make sure….
November 13th, 2008 at 4:04 PMUsing
Well, Camille is, as usual, half right.
November 15th, 2008 at 1:10 AMUsing