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How Obama got elected
Posted by: in Bias?What Bias?, From the MSM, Idiotarians, LC Contributions, Stupidity Gone Wild, The Obamessiah, Useless Swine9:03 AM
512 Obama Voters 11/13/08-11/15/08 MOE +/- 4.4 points
97.1% High School Graduate or higher, 55% College Graduates
Results to 12 simple Multiple Choice Questions
57.4% could NOT correctly say which party controls congress (50/50 shot just by guessing)
81.8% could NOT correctly say Joe Biden quit a previous campaign because of plagiarism (25% chance by guessing)
82.6% could NOT correctly say that Barack Obama won his first election by getting opponents kicked off the ballot (25% chance by guessing)
88.4% could NOT correctly say that Obama said his policies would likely bankrupt the coal industry and make energy rates skyrocket (25% chance by guessing)
56.1% could NOT correctly say Obama started his political career at the home of two former members of the Weather Underground (25% chance by guessing).
And yet…..
Only 13.7% failed to identify Sarah Palin as the person on which their party spent $150,000 in clothes
Only 6.2% failed to identify Palin as the one with a pregnant teenage daughter
And 86.9 % thought that Palin said that she could see Russia from her “house,” even though that was Tina Fey who said that!!
Only 2.4% got at least 11 correct.
Only .5% got all of them correct. (And we “gave” one answer that was technically not Palin, but actually Tina Fey)
Un-fucking-believable…..
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I wish every right-wing blogger would forward that video to every MSM player, with only one comment:
Bwhahahahahahaha!!!! Obama voters are MORONS!!! Hahahahahaha!
Be sure to send it to Jon Stewart, Bill Maher, Jay Leno, and David Letterman. Apparently, that’s where the Obamacons get all their political info.
November 18th, 2008 at 9:07 AMUsing
The founding fathers made one mistake when drafting the constitution: They didn’t bank on human stupidity. Idiots will be the death of this country.
Maybe we ought to come up with some starship troopers-esque voting system, whereby you actually have to earn the right somehow. That way we avoid handing the keys to the country to any idiot who can stumble into a ballot box and fill in a circle.
Sure, we can win intelligent debate, but how do you fight mass stupidity like this?
November 18th, 2008 at 9:19 AMUsing
I have been employed at an institution of “higher learning” for over a decade now, and I’m amazed at what passes for intelligence coming out of the “educated” masses.
Jaybear, especially, will appreciate this one: at our all-campus meeting last Friday, we went over the mission and vision statements for the university, and the “motto” that was put up on the screen was, “Education isn’t about KNOWLEDGE; it’s about ACTION.”
HUH?????
We definitely see that. Obama voters may be “educated,” but obviously action was more important than knowledge. Without knowledge, one cannot take the proper action.
November 18th, 2008 at 9:35 AMUsing
These people are educated? Like hell they are! They wouldn’t form a pimple on an educated person’s ass!
God help this country; He’s the only one who can.
Does anyone else think the three young women behaved as if they were baked?
November 18th, 2008 at 9:46 AMUsing
Gibson girl sez:
Hence the quotes around the word. :em93:
November 18th, 2008 at 9:51 AMUsing
LC Xealot sez:
Actually, I believe they were well aware of the ignorance of the masses - they referred to it as the “tyranny of the majority” - which is why they set up a representative republic instead of a pure democracy.
Maybe some of the more well-read historians here can correct/supplement this, too, but the right to vote has been developed over time. Of course, women couldn’t vote at all until the early 20th century. I seem to also recall that there was a restriction - either discussed or originally implemented - of having to own land before being given the right to vote.
At any rate, our nation has become more “enlightened” over time (”/ sarcasm”), and look where it has taken us.
November 18th, 2008 at 10:01 AMUsing
LC Brendan, you are confusing “legitimate campaign issues” with “distractions.”
/sarc off
November 18th, 2008 at 10:09 AMUsing
:em98: :em98: :em98: :em98: :em98: (I could go on, but you get the point.)
I would love to see voters required to read a list of each candidate’s positions (comprised of their own words and voting records on each issue) and pass a multiple choice test on such before being able to vote. “Here’s the information upon which you should be voting. Now prove you actually let that information tumble around in your head before we’ll let you vote.”
November 18th, 2008 at 10:11 AMUsing
heck I’d like to see the presidential ballot be a multiple choice test and not mention names of the candidates at all. That way you would insure some ignorant moron isn’t voted for a name and a face(or skin color) but is voting about the main issues.
November 18th, 2008 at 10:18 AMUsing
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November 18th, 2008 at 10:29 AMUsing
LC Xealot sez:
at the time only property owners could vote. if you did not have a certain value of land or business you did not have a say. even free blacks could vote if they had the financial requirements.
November 18th, 2008 at 10:34 AMUsing
It is believable, and it’s not really a surprise. Did we really expect the current public education system to produce anything else?
Change!
November 18th, 2008 at 10:35 AMUsing
LC Xealot sez:
First reaction:
:em96:
This kind of thing almost makes you wish that the moonbat theory of birth control in the drinking water WAS true. . .
November 18th, 2008 at 10:37 AMUsing
I’m just a dumb old red neck with some college and a tested IQ of about one forty, an ignorant fuck. Yet I answered all of these questions correctly. I took a math test, in my head while driving, that over half of all college professors could not pass. I aced it. If you want to talk functions of a limit in calculus I can oblige you. This developent? I am not in the slightest bit surprised. But, me being little but a red neck country hick, how could I know jack shit? Maybe the two thousand books I have here? Fuck these morons, usless people. Not in a good space this morning. Just got back home with a sick wife from work. When my lady is sick I don’t fuck around, she becomes my top priority. Not after once watching her on life support for four days, then going home bawling my eyes out. She is stressed enough, times are austere. I handle all this shit. Finding out this morning, courtesy of the Fresno Bee, that my bank may soon disappear. I left checking alone, but savings is getting smaller, real fast. Six hundred bucks hit our ATM cards at four-thirty this morning. My gun safe can handle it. I’ll get the rest tomorrow……..
November 18th, 2008 at 11:05 AMYet in all this she is very much looking forward to the new addition to the family, our soon to be had .357 Ruger revolver with a six inch barrel. She wants to shoot .38 Specials, easier on her arthritis…..tomorrow, I hope.
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The fundamental issue I see here is that of the Main Stream Media’s duplicity and complicity in getting this moron elected. These spineless jellyfish aren’t even remotely aware that they have a cerebral cortex. The one girl with the horn rim glasses and the big tits was the only one even REMOTELY aware of what an idiot she was. The rest of them should be taken out, sterilized so they don’t pass this idiocy on to people.
Holy Shit…. :em98:
November 18th, 2008 at 11:16 AMUsing
nytedrgn sez:
I agree with your sentiments here, but isn’t that just another outrageous spoon-feeding accommodation of voter stupidity – “Here, let me help you hold the gun so you don’t shoot yourself (or me) in the head.” There is just no sense of shame about gross ignorance anymore. Instead of being subjected to real and deserved humiliation, these folks are judged with a resounding “Whatever!” by the masses, while the rest of us not-so-clueless shake our heads and wonder where it all went wrong and where we could possibly begin to rectify such a hopelessly deteriorated situation.
I am inclined to place heavy blame on the dumbing-down of the K-12 system over the last couple of decades (some of my kids’ textbooks make me want to scream and long for that musty, stodgy, no-frills 1960’s algebra text that forced me to simply learn the material or else, sans story time and pretty pictures), but I am at somewhat of a loss to explain the older individuals in the video. I hate to say it, but if this is a continuing trend, our days are short until America as we knew it slips beneath the waves and whatever continues will be the result of unthinking masses bleating for whoever keeps the food and sparklies coming.
November 18th, 2008 at 11:17 AMUsing
Sheep, following the wolves to slaughter.
:em98: :em98: :em98: :em98:
November 18th, 2008 at 11:23 AMUsing
etc.
Don’t forget that the stoopids will deny the negative info. about The One. They’ll insist that it’s all lies, even after listening to a tape of Obamessiah enthusiastically crowing about how he’s gonna bankrupt the coal industry causing energy prices to skyrocket. Even when they’re freezing in winter and suffocating in summer because they can’t afford the heating and A/C costs, they’ll blame Bush! :em98: :em98: :em72:
November 18th, 2008 at 11:38 AMUsing
Come on now, haven’t we already determined that college ’students’ are seriously challenged when presented with something other than indoctrination points? After 12/14 years of public
indoctrination’school’, college students can only conceive what theirindoctrinatorsteachers bring fort.What really bothers me about this abysmal calamity is these people will become the fodder for their elitist masters, those who were ‘lucky’ enough to be born in well-to-do families that could afford private education.
Thankfully, my grandchildren are homeschooled.
November 18th, 2008 at 12:17 PMUsing
I’m glad to see this on the front page.
Did anyone hear the companion piece Howard Stern did? He sent a couple of reporters to Harlem to ask the Obots there some questions. They presented McCain’s positions as Obama’s, and asked the morons what they thought of the positions.
E.g.:
“So, are you in favor of Obama’s pro-life position?” “Sure.”
“And you think, like Obama, that we should finish the course in Iraq?” “Makes sense to me.”
And the kicker:
“So you have no problem with SARAH PALIN as vice president?” “No, doesn’t bother me.”
!!!!!!!!!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SCcHzUmVP5c
November 18th, 2008 at 12:36 PMUsing
The blank looks I get when I state known and verifiable (at least, it is documented well enough for anyone who can spell Google) facts is beyond frustration. It’s enough to make me want to get in my car and run the
deersdears over. Wouldn’t help, though.The poor bastiches think they voted for the ultimate ‘American Idol’ contest, for Chrissakes! I’m running out of confidantes and acquaintances. One
oldex-friend, when asked why he didn’t like McCain, could only respond, “He sucks!”My son could read the ‘Golden’ children books my mom gave me before he started kindergarten. He was so bored of the remedial style HS courses I took him to Marian Catholic HS for their entrance exam (was #1 private HS in the Midwest). He did good on the exam and boy did his ego inflate. Sometime later, his siblings complained that he was bragging on and on about his being a genius. I told him he was smart alright, but that, with the standards in education lowered to such basic skills and difficulty, in reality, he was average. His senior year he enlisted in the Army.
November 18th, 2008 at 1:08 PMUsing
Yes it is.
What is “Un-fucking-believable” is that you care one way or the other.
Should I submit a new entry for the upcoming DMS-V? The ODS? :em99:
November 18th, 2008 at 1:43 PMUsing
I hate to say it, but it is watching things like this that make me wonder if I feel my service is worth anything.
This is what I am defending?
I admit, there were one or two of those questions I would not have been able to answer. Biden’s plagiarism was one. I never heard about it, though knowing other things about the man I definitely wouldn’t doubt it.
The other question that I may not have answered correctly I can’t even remember what it was.
HOWEVER, that sure an’ as hell doesn’t change the fact that everything I DO know about Obama and Biden was one more reason I didn’t pull the lever for them.
I didn’t really like either Obama or McCain, but that Obama won really and truly worries me. I am usually rather pragmatic about things like this. Though I am conservative (Not Republican, but conservative) I did not worry when Clinton was elected in ‘92. I wasn’t happy about it, but I didn’t get the creeping sensation that it was the end of the nation either.
Yes, I know, I sound like an alarmist, but honestly this is the first time I am truly concerned about what is going to happen now.
November 18th, 2008 at 1:57 PMUsing
If you look at the absolute shit sold on TV that never works as advertised, you have to realize there must be masses of dumbasses buying it. Not only do they buy one, but if you pay for the s&h you get a second “free”. Heads up to the mendicants but the s&h covers the cost of the product AND the shipping, AND a profit margin. This may seem off topic, but it isn’t. It shows a symptom.
I can take people individually, but for some reason, call it Marinia’s law, the more people you put in a room the dumber the aggragate I.Q. becomes. Exponentially. Take a Mensa meeting. You’ve never seen such a group of retards. These are the intellectual elite, in theory, but put them all together and I would rather volunteer at Special Olympics (and I have) than deal with them.
Same goes for the recent Obama-craze. On paper, it’s impossible. A Marxist running for leadership of a Capitalist country. His record on paper wouldn’t qualify him for one of those appointments he’s now handing out. If logic and reason were used, he’d never even have gotten his party’s nomination.
Yet the reality is, he’s elected. By the masses. Which means the masses are idiots, comparable to the monkey cage at the zoo. I think we all know what those monkeys do when the crowd applauds at the zoo. If you don’t, go visit and clap for the monkeys some time. Then duck if there’s no glass.
Never underestimate the stupidity of others. That’s called,”setting yourself up for failure”. Instead, be like all those companies that are harnessing the power of stupidity and profitting from it. Now if you’ll excuse me, I’m off to patent a douche-warmer and sell it on QVC.
November 18th, 2008 at 1:58 PMUsing
What’s un-fucking-believable is that you also voted for the Magic Communist, and his lovely wife, Terrorist Spice.
November 18th, 2008 at 1:58 PMUsing
I hate to say it, but it is watching things like this that make me wonder if my service is worth anything.
This is what I am defending?
I admit, there were one or two of those questions I would not have been able to answer. Biden’s plagiarism was one. I never heard about it, though knowing other things about the man I definitely wouldn’t doubt it.
The other question that I may not have answered correctly I can’t even remember what it was.
HOWEVER, that sure an’ as hell doesn’t change the fact that everything I DO know about Obama and Biden was one more reason I didn’t pull the lever for them.
I didn’t really like either Obama or McCain, but that Obama won really and truly worries me. I am usually rather pragmatic about things like this. Though I am conservative (Not Republican, but conservative) I did not worry when Clinton was elected in ‘92. I wasn’t happy about it, but I didn’t get the creeping sensation that it was the end of the nation either.
Yes, I know, I sound like an alarmist, but honestly this is the first time I am truly concerned about what is going to happen now.
November 18th, 2008 at 1:58 PMUsing
SeniorD sez:
And my folks really wonder how I got my arse suspended from a
November 18th, 2008 at 1:59 PMuniversityscrewel in New York!Using
Sorry about the double post… I kinda screwed up on the preview…
November 18th, 2008 at 2:00 PMUsing
You know guys, it’s going to come down to some tipping point. Like the people in China who are being forced out of their homes and arrested for 200 days without due process because they’re trying to stop the wrecking ball from demolishing your home, where’s the bottom?? When do you say ENOUGH IS ENOUGH and have to resort to other measures other than reasoned argument to accomplish ANYTHING?
It’s that old joke “TACT: The ability to tell some asshole to go to hell and make him feel happy on his way”
I’m convinced Obama is a social experiment. Someone high up has gambled that the democratic process can be swayed and manipulated and this was carried out to test the hypothesis. The media knows how complicit they were. And they’re laughing their asses off because they got away with it.
LA Confidential: Rollo Tomassi (great movie btw).
The Matrix: I need guns, lots of guns
:em98:
November 18th, 2008 at 2:02 PMUsing
Unfortunately not all the idiots are Obama supporters.
November 18th, 2008 at 2:07 PMOne woman commented about supporting McCain because Sarah Palin would make a great first lady. Another anti-gay bigot commented about how Palin had taken action in Alaska against gays (when actually she vetoed the legislation that would have denied same sex couples access to state benefits.)
The astounding amount of ignorance is appauling.
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http://www.timesonli.....180546.ece
After reading this? Fuck Somalia. Fuck Saudi Arabia. Let them call up their crack force of towelheads to go in and stop them.
The last time we wandered into that East African Toilet, 19 good American men paid the ultimate price.
The ones that made it but bled for their country had their sacrifice dishonored and disgraced by a garbage politician who governed by polls and got blow jobs in the oval office from a fat, Jewish intern.
The country is in total chaos.
It should remain in total chaos. They deserve nothing else.
I watched the reaction of these morons on the documentary portion of the “Black Hawk Down” DVD. They hated us for trying to take out Aidid. They’re happy that US Men died. They act like they’re some proud cultural heritage with their damn Khat and black market AK-47’s. Well, we left. So who the fuck is responsible for all your problems now?
Not one more drop of American blood should be shed in that backwater outhouse that calls itself a country. :em69:
If military force must be used…..Daisy Cutters, day and night, 24/7 until nothing remains. Probably one will be all it would take to destroy everything. :em96:
But now with President Chickendick, we’re going to probably sacrifice a few more boys. :em38:
November 18th, 2008 at 2:14 PMUsing
LC SkyeChild G.L.O.R., Imperial Grammar Hun sez:
not surprising to me my friend. What do you expect from a school system that teaches that the Christian Crusaders “kicked out” all the non-Christians from Europe. Never mind that they were Saracen conquerors bent on setting up a caliphate in Europe. Actually heard that one in a school wide assembly.
I’ll bet half of the idiots in this video get foreclosed on in the next year if they’re homwowners…..as they’re probably expecting Ohhhhhhh……bama to magically “vanish” their mortgages.. :em01:
Hey 52…….buyer beware.
November 18th, 2008 at 2:59 PMUsing
Marinia sez:
November 18th, 2008 at 3:02 PMUsing
@ Marinia:
I’ve seen it put this way: the IQ of any group of people is equal to the average IQ of the members of the group, divided by the number of members.
By way of practical application, a group of any six Mensa members has a collective IQ of no more than about 35.
I’ve never heard anyone credited for having devised the formula, so I second the motion that it henceforth be known as “Marinia’s Law.”
November 18th, 2008 at 3:04 PMUsing
Sorry about the goofed-up embedding on that previous post - I haven’t quite got this blocking figured out.
November 18th, 2008 at 3:08 PMUsing
Take a look at the top-rated shows on TV. Crap you wouldn’t watch if you were locked in a jail cell and your other alternative was to look at the underside of the top bunk. Now think about all the people who make sure they’re parked in front of the videot box because they wouldn’t miss that episode for all the tea in China.
Then think about the stupidest person you know, the one that’s so dumb you can’t believe they haven’t managed to walk out into the middle of the street and get hit like a dog. Then realize that the person probably holds a driver’s license, and pilots a 2000 lb. vehicle at high speed around the same highways you have to use to get to work.
November 18th, 2008 at 3:10 PMUsing
Brendan
Perhaps this link will help to decipher the voting patterns of the recent election:
http://www.americant.....ected.html
I just got off the phone with my brother, after blistering his ears for 15 minutes. Why? Because he posted in his cyber journal that PALIN said she could see Russia from her house :em12: . Needless to say, he will be doing major KP during Thanksgiving as penance for his stupidity.
November 18th, 2008 at 3:11 PMUsing
I’ve been posting here for years. Your problem is….what, exactly? That I identified the fact that the MSM was successful in one of the worst abuses of the public trust in 100 years?
Or is this now “What’s this Australian doing posting on a US blog?”
Well, Allyn?
How about using plain english.
November 18th, 2008 at 3:25 PMUsing
Remember that list of scoundrels klintoon loosed on us during his last days?
The moonbat that assembled and executed the Historic Fleabag Emancipation is getting a new job.
Perfect.
Well, in the same spirit, I certainly hope Dubya sees fit to free a couple too before check-out time.
Like Tha ‘Nuge said about Gordon Liddy: “They’re MY kind of felons!“
November 18th, 2008 at 3:39 PMUsing
@ LCBrendan:
I got caught in the Spam Catcher…sigh….but left you a link which helps to explain your post.
And don’t be offended by DJ. My opinion: he is afraid of being categorized with the same idiots on the video.
:em01:
November 18th, 2008 at 3:44 PMUsing
Brothers, Friends, Allies…
Welcome to the world of socialism. You have finally arrived. A mal-informed and under-educated citizenry steered by the media following the empty promises of demagogues… A brave new world.
However, there is still hope. Doing the Rottie thing (kicking, screaming and wielding the clue bat) for the next four years will go a long way of cutting short this nightmare. Everything is at stake. My country and people have paid dearly for two adventures of this kind. 10mn dead and irreplacable land and beauty lost. Silesia, Prussia, Pomerania, Moravia…
I wish and pray for the best.
November 18th, 2008 at 3:45 PMUsing
lc purple raider sez:
Also? You mean other people here voted for him also? Wow, I had no idea…
BU2 Lander sez:
It’s because you believe all of the hype and nonsense that has been spread here and elsewhere like dung in a fertilizer factory. You have a choice:
You can go through life and not worry about it, or spend all your time worrying about something that will most likely never happen.
LC Lord Elrond sez:
Yeah, the Bilderburgers, The Trilaterals, The Illuminati, and the Grays. I’ll call Art Bell.
anonymous hourly worker sez:
Voice of experience?
anonymous hourly worker sez:
Where are you driving and at what time? Maybe I can alter my schedule and route. :em99:
November 18th, 2008 at 3:47 PMUsing
LC Aggie Sith sez:
You mean I haven’t been already? I mean, you all wield some pretty broad brushes here.
There is only ONE category I am no longer in: The Losing Side.
What I find funny is that a LOT of the people that voted George Bush into office twice changed their mind and went with Obama this time. So you have to ask yourself: were they dumb then too?
Welcome to cyclical politics. What goes around comes around.
November 18th, 2008 at 3:55 PMUsing
I was going to note the same thing. As I tell me kids, 99.9% of people are morons in one way or another. The company here mostly excepted
I see it in the TV shows I don’t watch, the people on the road trying to kill others while on their cell phones, the kids in my kids’ high school classes, the teachers that teach them, my sister-in-law and her adult children.
It’s a scary world folks. I guess the one positive is that if the world turns into Mad Max, those of us left will be the ones able to take care of ourselves.
November 18th, 2008 at 3:59 PMUsing
@ DJ Allyn, ITW:
Any reason you are so snappish?
Well, I prefer to call it “Being prepared.” And yes, I will still enjoy life, DJ, even though I prepare for the worst. The two scenarios are not mutually exclusive.
November 18th, 2008 at 4:05 PMUsing
I doubt that anyone on the Rott besides you voted for Castro with a tan.
November 18th, 2008 at 4:07 PMUsing
I don’t have to ask myself anything, they are always happy to show how much they’re taken with the way things look, versus the way things are.
That’s dumb.
November 18th, 2008 at 4:09 PMUsing
I don’t have to ask myself anything, they are always happy to show how much they’re taken with the way things look, versus the way things are.
That’s dumb.
These are the VERY LAST folks I seek to assist after storms.
November 18th, 2008 at 4:13 PMThe ones who just can’t come up with a reason to lift a finger, but cry like li’l girls, whining for help when tha shit hits.
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I would like to share a post I made at another website:
and it’s no joke…I’ve had this dream 4 times since the 5th…waking up drenched in sweat and my heart beating right out of my chest. I’ve been spending my days checking my equipment, sharpening blades, and making sure my survival necessities are met.
I will not be some socialist drone….I will remove myself from society if I must….and after this election I realy doubt there is any way to save this country other then a yea umm this isn’t a secure channel….but you get the idea.
November 18th, 2008 at 4:17 PM:em96: :em96: :em96: :em96: :em96:
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@ DJ Allyn, ITW:
Some do, some don’t. I like to think I’m in the latter category. Then again, you like broad brushes too
Many people have different reasons for voting for Senator Obama. I know of five who did so because they were disgusted with the GOP and the direction it was going. But, ALL OF THEM HAD ALL THE INFORMATION ABOUT ALL FOUR. The people on the video clearly showed they did not.
Is that your not-so-subtle way of saying “Payback’s a bitch”?
November 18th, 2008 at 4:19 PMUsing
Oooh. Mannnn.
November 18th, 2008 at 4:26 PMGet ready for a nassssty paradigm.
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LC Aggie Sith sez:
Try being the Imperial Chewtoy™ yourself! :em99:
November 18th, 2008 at 4:44 PMUsing
You are…you just dont know it yet.Trust me…you will.
That’s PRESIDENT Bush to you.
They were lied to. Congrats, Allyn, you’ve been sucked in by a spinmaster Chicago politician.
November 18th, 2008 at 4:48 PMUsing
Of all the Obama voters I personally know, there are not two of them who agree on what Obama has accomplished, nor what he will do in the future. I’ve heard a variety of stories, but they all sound like the mumbled contradictory alibis on a TV episode of “Cops”
With a bright smile they all agree on one thing though - “Barack sounds nice, and says he’s going to change things!”
As time goes by, a substantial number of Obama voters are either going to be very disappointed, or worse, feel betrayed. The only question will be who? The lefties, or the moderates? Time will tell, and it shall
November 18th, 2008 at 4:56 PMUsing
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November 18th, 2008 at 5:01 PMUsing
Two words to you DJ.
FUCK YOU
Stupid liberal bastard.
I got a website for you. Go play on MrCranky.com and get jazzed up with the rest of the illiterate ignorant liberal loony toons.
November 18th, 2008 at 5:11 PMUsing
Wow! Burying your noggin in the sand even before sultan jugears is crowned. Keep pretending that your false god isn’t going to set a record for royally fucking up.
:em01: Blaming Bush won’t work anymore, just an FYI. :em01:
November 18th, 2008 at 5:16 PMUsing
BU2 Lander sez:
Remember your oath.
LC Panzermann sez:
Therein lies the “Fairness Doctrine” they want, and the control of the ‘net.
LC Aggie Sith sez:
And again, therein lies the rub. To install something like this to the halls of power to shock/awaken the nation. Carter got us Reagan. Who will be Reagan 2012?
LCBrendan sez:
Indeed. Shame we ALL have to ride that train to awareness. Some of us knew, the rest of them will. *SIGH*
November 18th, 2008 at 5:19 PMUsing
A pity their egos won’t allow them to admit it.
November 18th, 2008 at 5:22 PMUsing
They may feel betrayed, but I dont see them placing the blame where it belongs …on themselves and on Obama. They are professional victims who are “entitled” to thier “rights” like perpetual welfare, perpetual government housing, perpetual government healthcare. They beleive thier mere existence entitles them to something more that sucking air. So end the end.. they will be disgruntled.. but they’ll beleive anything thats handed to them and it damn sure wont be the Dems admitting fallibility. It’ll be more like reaching back across revisionist history a laying hands on a scapegoat.
And for DJ… sir, What exactly is the justification for a Civilian Security Force? Thats armed? Why couldnt they operate like the majority of Security (that way out numbers police officers in this country as it is) and act unarmed as a observe & report? You do know how irresponsible it is to put weapons on the “street” right? Who’s going to train these people? Where these people going to be recruited, from thier own “hoods”? Why not just give organized criminals weapons and tell them its ok to terrorize thier neighborhoods? Can you say “extortion”. In my “hood” I AM THE NEIGHBORHOOD WATCH. I do it for free, everyone knows its a “safe house”, everyone knows I will call the police, and everyone knows I dont play around. My little podunk town doesnt need a “civilian security force”.
Or is all this just “hype” and president elect Obama and Rahmm dont have a history of discussing this at all? And intersting how you used the term “most likely won’t happen” does this mean that there is a possibility under President Elect Obama that it “could” happen? Cause I didnt have these concerns a few months ago.
November 18th, 2008 at 5:28 PMUsing
Brendan, that is plain english to me. The DSM manual is the American Medical Associations list of approved mental illness diagnoses. We are currently using version four (IV). ODS=OSama Derangement syndrome.
Does that help?
November 18th, 2008 at 5:39 PMUsing
@ LC TerribleTroy, Imperial Centurion: No shit brother. Mine too, and me too.
November 18th, 2008 at 5:41 PMUsing
*shrug*
All I will have to do is sit back and watch as the litany of fuckups begins. As he makes one screwup after another, I’ll just sit here and add it to the growing list.
He’s already made one beauty….naming Valerie Jarrett as a senior advisor. First move, hire a friend and business associate of an indicted felon.
Smart move, Barack baby….
November 18th, 2008 at 6:00 PMUsing
@LC cmblake6
You are right indeed. I apologize for needing to be reminded.
My oath is to protect and defend the Constitution.
I view of that, I will carry out what my oath entails.
November 18th, 2008 at 6:06 PMIt does also say Against all enemies, both foreign and…
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@ DJ Allyn, ITW:
Why…..yes.
November 18th, 2008 at 6:07 PMUsing
I am making a prediction for 2012. Barack Obama will go down in history as the President of the most corrupt administration..BAR NONE.
November 18th, 2008 at 6:13 PMUsing
@ LC Lord Elrond:
A little visit from the USS Missouri would set a few things straight down there. The craphole of Eyl, a few 9 metric ton broadsides…and there’s not much “Allahu” in “Akbar” left, and presumably not that many maritime pirates neither. Although, an AC-130 can be lots of fun as well, at least for the watchers. Djibouti would most certainly sponsor the airfield, so you can load up more ammo.
Malaysia, Indoneasia (less so) and Singapore solved their maritime piracy problem about 5 years ago for good. Required a few judicial applications of something called “RSS Ardent”, though. And 1st ComBat for rooting out their hideouts.
November 18th, 2008 at 7:13 PMUsing
@ mousseman:
Was that the Malacan Straits? Or are those close to the Phillipines?
November 18th, 2008 at 8:16 PMUsing
Ah yes, the AC-130: “When you need to kill a whole city!”™ :em95:
(I am referring, of course, to the as-yet-unaccounted-for AC-5 Gunship)
November 18th, 2008 at 8:37 PMUsing
@ LC TerribleTroy, Imperial Centurion:
Straits of Malacca? That’s between Sumatra and the Malayan peninsula. Used to be quite infested with maritime pirates.
November 18th, 2008 at 8:59 PMUsing
Let me reference, for those of you who may or may not read my blog, this entry written tonight. Go there, read it. Then come back here and comment more on what your thoughts are about the future of this nation.
November 18th, 2008 at 9:10 PMUsing
@ LCBrendan: While I believe that “The One’s” administration will be the most corrupt administration in history, it will not be recorded as such. The lap-dogs in the MSM are going to be as busy as a cat covering crap on a marble floor trying to keep O’Bumbles diefied. Keep chipping away at those feet of clay :em41:
November 18th, 2008 at 9:16 PMUsing
@ LC cmblake6, Imperial Black Ops Technician:I was an officer in the Navy and have been reviewing my oath in my mind since the election. It seems that the line is drawn and that our government is getting very close to stepping over that line I and millions like me have sworn to uphold and defend. I am not afraid of the foreign enemies, nor am I afraid of the domestic enemies anymore. They have clearly shown themselves in this election. What I have been doing is quietly getting ready to make good on my obligation if this government goes across that line. :em96:
November 18th, 2008 at 9:24 PMUsing
RE:
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Aggie Sith and Cheapshot911 are on to something.
Every society; feudal, tribal, democracy, even a socialist dictatorship, has politics. Politics is how power and resources are allocated, problems are solved, and rewards and punishments are administered. Every society’s politics has certain inbuilt rules and assumptions that are accepted by all in that polity as giving validity to the decisions made. It may be votes, it may be noblesse oblige, it may be following the traditions of one’s ancestors, or it may be the truncheon and the bullet in the back of the neck for those who displease either the State or the monarch. But each has certain manners and mores that must be followed in the name of legitimacy, or politics breaks down into the only alternative way of allocating power, resources, etc. Brute force.
As a political system fails, as more and more of the members of a society begin to believe that the rules of old no longer apply, and there is no point in resorting to them, violence becomes more common, and more extreme. It is a positive feedback system. All it takes is to reach a trigger point that pushes one side or another too far.
Our particular society holds the Constitution, the rule of law, and honest self-government at the ballot box as the trinity at the core of our politics. Yet we see that neither of the two primary world views conflicting in this country can any longer have faith in the ability of that core to hold by itself.
We have seen registration and vote fraud en-masse, by one side. We have seen violence and intimidation accepted as political tactics by one side, alongside misconduct by Democrat elected and appointed officials. We have seen massive violations of Federal law in the financing of the election campaign with foreign and ineligible domestic donors giving Hussein Pasha more than twice the sum that McSame got legally in total. We have seen the provisions of the Constitution ignored or flouted, by one side. We have no reason to assume that the person about to be installed in the White House is anything but a usurper of foreign nationality. Further, with the connivance of Democrat elected officials, we cannot be anywhere near sure that the vote count is honest. Hell, in Minnesota, they are still finding “ballots” all voting for the Democratic ticket, behind the seats of private vehicles and in glove boxes. And counting them. And this does not include the hundreds of Democrat votes where the paper ballots are there, but for some unknown reason the confirming voting machine computer tapes are non-existent.
We have Hussein Pasha’s own words, and that of his new Chief of Staff, that they intend to create a parallel armed force outside the control of the military. That is not the action of a Democracy or a free Republic. Historically, that is done by dictators.
From the point of view of Conservatives, the trinity above is being flouted with impunity by the Left. The system has been compromised beyond the ability to bring Leftist lawbreakers to account. Therefore, depending on the system is to guarantee submission to a Leftist state. From the point of view of the Left, the exercise of power is what matters, to enforce their state-controlled utopia. To them, the Constitution, the laws and the vote are just impediments to be overcome en-route to ultimate power. The only thing they offered to us after November 4 was an opportunity to allow us to make nice, forgive all the insults and attacks we have been targeted with for years, and to allow us to collaborate in the final destruction of what we hold dear. I grant that more than a few Institutional Republicans have gone Quisling in hopes of preserving themselves in the future. Good Riddance to them; the same as to a certain historical character named Ep(h)ialtes described by Herodotus.
This division is going to do nothing but get wider and deeper. Already I have grave doubts that it can be resolved in a civil manner. All it will take is an eventual over-reach by Hussein Pasha and the trigger point will be passed. Already, by means of 5 of those Republican traitors, a bill attacking the 2nd Amendment has been submitted. [ H.R. 6257: Assault Weapons Ban Reauthorization Act of 2008 http://www.govtrack......=h110-6257 ] How long before the rest of the Bill of Rights is attacked?
Oh, as to the matter of brushes being broad. I suspect that perception has most to do with which end of the brush one ends up on.
If all we have left is the Oath, it is enough.
LC Subotai Bahadur
November 18th, 2008 at 9:29 PMUsing
@ Hephaestus-forger of steel: I salute you sir. Not with that emoticon, but with true honor. As I do all the others who see it as well. And I am quite sure many of us here are such. Stand ready, and hope it comes to naught.
November 18th, 2008 at 9:34 PMUsing
@ LC cmblake6, Imperial Black Ops Technician:Thank you sir. Sic Semper Tyrannus. Semper Fi
November 18th, 2008 at 10:26 PMUsing
@ LC Subotai Bahadur:
That, Sir, is the most trenchant and intelligent piece I’ve ever read on the current state of affairs. Just absolutely so.
Strike One:
“We have seen massive violations of Federal law in the financing of the election campaign with foreign and ineligible domestic donors giving Hussein Pasha more than twice the sum that McSame got legally in total.
Strike Two:”
“We have no reason to assume that the person about to be installed in the White House is anything but a usurper of foreign nationality.”
Strike Three:
“Already, by means of 5 of those Republican traitors, a bill attacking the 2nd Amendment has been submitted. [ H.R. 6257: Assault Weapons Ban Reauthorization Act of 2008 http://www.govtrack......=h110-6257 ] How long before the rest of the Bill of Rights is attacked?”
(As if it hadn’t already been decimated.)
Strike Four:
“We have Hussein Pasha’s own words, and that of his new Chief of Staff, that they intend to create a parallel armed force outside the control of the military. That is not the action of a Democracy or a free Republic. Historically, that is done by dictators.”
Wait a minute…. That’s THREE strikes and yer out!!!!!!!!!
“All it will take is an eventual over-reach by Hussein Pasha and the trigger point will be passed.”
I guess we’ll just have to wait until he actually signs it all into “law”.
November 18th, 2008 at 11:41 PMUsing
Joan of Argghh sez:
I did my best to accommodate: Daily Show Forum
http://forum.thedail.....ge.id=4836
I’d never been to the Daily Show Forum (didn’t know they had one), but reading some of the posts by these half-retard college dummies is enlightening as to the subject of this thread.
I forget if it was in the original, or if it was in some of the scenes that didn’t make the movie, but in “The Godfather” there was a scene at the table when Michael informs the brothers that he’s enlisted in the Army, and Santino smacks him in the head & says “What didja go to college to get stupid? ….. Stupid.” Whenever I hear from the self-proclaimed “educated” “elite” in this country, I think of that scene.
Where’s Sonny when you need him, the Left in this country could use a beat down a la Sonny on Carlo.
November 19th, 2008 at 12:12 AMUsing
Tailfin sez:
The problem is that schools in this country provide no CIVICS education. If they did, people might understand that along with their God-given rights, this country requires a few minimally burdensome duties of its citizens.
American citizens have a RIGHT to vote. But they also have an OBLIGATION to vote intelligently (i.e., make an INFORMED decision).
This, among other obligations like upholding the Constitution and Eternal Vigilance against tyranny, is never explained to Americans. Neither in school, nor through the media. It’s only because Americans are unaware of their TRUE Duties that they can be duped by the Left into believing that they have other (leftist invented) patriotic duties … like paying higher taxes.
November 19th, 2008 at 12:22 AMUsing
Eyas, that is WELL said.
LC Brendan - thank you so much for posting this. It should be shouted from the rooftops, mandatory watching in every possible medium, shown front and center on every single network, front page news in every single newspaper, and otherwise spread far and wide. Americans have not voted intelligently or informedly, and that is a travesty.
There was one woman on this video who had at least a curious and somewhat open mind, who could be won to the truth if only she were exposed to it. While I’m not especially tolerant of ignorance in this age of information, there do exist some people who just need a little outreach to make better choices.
And of course, the fact that WE all have a contract to live under the constitution, while the left wants to shred it into toilet paper and subvert it completely and not fulfill their contract, is something that must be addressed - there’s not much point trying to address it any further with the left; it’s now our moral duty to address it with RINOs and false conservative/libertarians and INSIST on enforcement of the constitution in all its precepts. Which of course include very limited government and free trade, not coercion, theft, force, and communism. You all have been inspiring me to write my own treatises on all these things and stop wasting my breath on the left and on their reading material. (Hat tip to Gonzo for bringing that home in sharp relief.)
This is the future - and if it isn’t, there’s no point in life anyway. Liberty or death, real talk.
November 19th, 2008 at 12:32 AMUsing
This is from a bang-up, knock-down, drag-out, BRILLIANT essay by David Limbaugh: Toward the Tipping Point.
Kind of says it all.
November 19th, 2008 at 1:12 AMUsing
I see our resident Useful Idiot has shown up to do some triumphal ass-wagging.
“Our side won! Yours lost! NEENER NEENER NEENER!”
Thank you for playing, DJ. You’re either a fool or a blackguard. In neither case is debate with you going to be fruitful.
November 19th, 2008 at 1:30 AMUsing
WORD.
I can tell you that several people I know in the Big Apple are angrily determined to get rid of the Republicans completely, and yearn for a one-party dictatorship. I pointed out to one of these Useful Idiots that we already HAVE one-party government in New York, but she was obsessed with finding the last Republican under a bush somewhere, and exterminating him.
Totalitarian bastards.
And tonight, on Charlie Rose, an Obot doctor was holding forth on how we should PASS LAWS dictating what Americans eat and how much we exercise: all for our own good of course! The idiot Rose and the other doctor nodded along like bobblehead dolls.
Their ideal for a healthy population? This broad said, “China, 20 years ago. With their plant-based diet and bicycles.”
And Chairman Fucking Mao, killer of 50 million. BUT that’s a DETAIL.
November 19th, 2008 at 1:42 AMUsing
Tallulah, it’s pretty established that “health” is a great club by which to beat people about the head and institute fascism/totalitarianism. Whether that means eliminating fat people (impossible without genocide) or instituting things that DO NOT WORK to eliminate fat people (bikes, veggies). The irony is that the biggest fat rights people, who claim they want to be left alone, also advocate for communist healthcare, mandated things like bike paths, planned cities (I shit you not) and mandatory vegetables and fruits. Even though they are the ones proving time and again that those things do not eliminate health threats in the slightest. It is a huge paradox that people who advocate for treating fat people like human beings worthy of the same rights as every other person are by far the biggest advocates of fascist feminism and fascist totalitarian government. They also tend to love Obama.
Except the mighty Sandy Szwarc, who exposes only the science and doesn’t subscribe to any of that bullshit - http://www.junkfoodscience.blogspot.com (Check out the obesity paradox series for a start. Or perhaps the National Institute of Health’s final solution for fat people. Or Paul Campos “The Obesity Myth.” Or Gina Kolata.)
As to the post by David Limbaugh, I have long wondered if capitalism (freemarkets) carry the seeds of their own destruction. Because a prosperous people inevitably feel humanely guilty about the poor of the world, despite that the remaining poor are from countries which are NOT under free markets). I also just posted a quote on my blog from - de Tocqueville or Smith, can’t remember offhand, about how such a society would last until congress figured out that it could BRIBE the public with the public’s own money. We’re victims of both realities. It is a paradox, but it needn’t be permanent.
November 19th, 2008 at 2:09 AMUsing
@ LC Subotai Bahadur: Excellent.
November 19th, 2008 at 3:57 AMUsing
DJ Allyn, ITW sez:
does this mean you didn’t vote for Obama?
November 19th, 2008 at 5:53 AMUsing
I, like so many others who post to this site, swore an oath to support, protect, and defend the Constitution… and gladly did so, twice.
Having read ALL of the posts herein, and a large number of the links (although after three days, all I get at Gonzo’s site is blank space), I wonder why we all tend to forget that there are checks and balances built into the system. Our individual Representatives and Senators at both levels, the State and Federal court systems, the op-ed pages of the media, and the court of public opinion all will act to dilute, and eventually dissipate the “Rising Tide of Hope and Change” currently lapping at the shores of this land.
I would further submit that good old fashioned inertia may yet play a large part in defeating the most objectionable plans of the upcoming administration.
This is all an exercise in practical politics until we start discussing a Constitutional Convention. That’s when it gets serious. And that’s when we need to be ready. Until then, Godspeed, be well, and be free.
Oh, and, um, last?
November 19th, 2008 at 8:02 AMUsing
Here’s the deal with Somali Pirates
STOP FIGHTING WARS WITH ONE HAND TIED AROUND YOUR BALLS.
YOU ARE NOT TRYING TO WIN HEARTS AND MINDS, YOU ARE TRYING TO KILL YOUR ENEMY
THIS INVOLVES KILLING HIM, HIS MILITARY CAPACITY, HIS ECONOMIC CAPACITY, HIS HIDING AND COMFORT CAPACITY.
THIS INVOLVES BOMBING THE ENTIRE COUNTRY JUST LIKE WE BOMBED GERMANY IN WW2.
ONCE THEIR FAMILIES AND LOVED ONES START PERISHING, I THINK YOU’D SEE A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF SUBMISSION TO ‘IMPERIALIST RULE’.
WE ARE NEVER GOING TO WIN THEIR RESPECT OR GOOD GRACES BY JUST BOMBING THE MILITARY CAPABILITY. THEY WILL NEVER SAY “OH AT LEAST THEY DIDN’T BOMB MY DAUGHTER’S SCHOOL, WHAT NICE AMERICANS!!!”. AND IF YOU CAN’T HANDLE KILLING WOMEN AND CHILDREN, YOU HAVE NO BUSINESS ATTACKING THEM AT ALL THEN.
November 19th, 2008 at 10:45 AMUsing
1oldleg sez:
leg, have you paid no attention to the dominant party? Unless we can do a whole hell of a lot of screaming, in some fashion that our new overlords will pay attention to, they have all three sides of the triangle of power. There will be NO checks or balances. The only hope we have is the not quite filibuster proof majority. We still have maybe enough to hold them back a bit. Until you look at 5 Rs that sponsored the renewal of the AWB. RINOs will be the death of us. Unless we have their attention in no uncertain terms, we’re screwed.
November 19th, 2008 at 12:08 PMUsing
Re: 1oldleg and cmblake6
cmblake6’s scenario in # 88 above is the “best case” situation. We are not dealing with a best case. Closer to a perfect storm. When out of power, the Democrats and their allies on the Left have had no compunction about violating either the law or the Constitution; even when in theory there could be unpleasant sequalae for said violation. It is in their nature. Now that they have absolute power, and have promised to create a separate armed force outside the control of the military for their own uses; it is unrealistic, at minimum, to operate on the assumption that the law and Constitution would restrain their actions when they know that there will be absolutely no consequences for anything they do.
If the law, the Constitution, and fear of political consequences [given that they will control the existence. conduct, and vote counting in any future elections that they may allow to occur] does not stay the hand of a tyrant; we are left with the Oath.
It is enough.
LC Subotai Bahadur
November 19th, 2008 at 12:58 PMUsing
Or Germany @70 years ago under Der Fuhrer’s plant-based diet and mandated exercise. Yep, those are the folks to look up to. :em72:
November 19th, 2008 at 2:05 PMUsing
The other thing about the Left’s tyranny is that the Democratic Party is now its golem. They just roll up the instructions, stick them in its mouth, and off it lumbers to do the Left’s bidding.
The Left is sworn to destroy our free republican government. We are the Great Example that proves us wrong, and we must be eliminated. “By any means necessary,” as they’re so fond of saying.
Their leader, whom they’ve shoehorned into the White House, has already spoken longingly of “breaking free of the Constitution.”
This is about as serious as it gets.
I kept trying to tell my friends and sister (my brother, USAF, is already on board! and remembers his oath very well, he assures me) that this Zero guy is not a “garden-variety Democrat,” though those are bad enough — they give us a real bad socialist wedgie, but this guy will split the torso if he can. He has no scruples: witness his alliance with murderer and rapist Ayers, racist demogogue Wright (his Spiritual Mentor, no less!). He makes ole Huey P. Long look like a pussycat.
And Oobonga has zero interest in “helping the poor.” His track record in Chicago, taking money from slumlord and criminal Rezko, who was subjecting “the poor” to horrific living conditions, proves that amply. It’s all about POWER for Oobonga.
And the MSM will cover for him no matter what he does. The Republicans/Patriots will be the “Goldsteins,” the scapegoats, the target of the “Two Minutes Hate” sessions daily. All failures and problems will be ascribed to us, by the Left and their lickspittle lackeys in the press. All opposition to Oobonga’s policies will be ascribed to “racism” or “greed.”
….On the other hand.
The founding Patriots fought free of the most powerful empire on Earth. Who would’ve predicted that? And that was with the full support of only about a third of the colonists (about a third in the middle, and roughly that many were Tories).
The barons forced the signing of the Magna Carta, which was a thunderbolt in world history. Never been done.
The Athenians developed this crazy idea of democracy, in a world that had only known absolute monarchs and chieftains.
Hitler, who had a death grip on Germany and Western Europe, was overthrown.
The USSR collapsed from within (with some pressure from us ;-)). I remember that one: it was astonishing.
….So, in the course of human affairs, EVERYTHING IS POSSIBLE. And sooner or later, it all seems to come to pass.
/my 20 cents.
The Golem: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golem
November 19th, 2008 at 2:38 PMUsing
Me, I’ve got a cunning plan for privatizing the K-12 education system but I don’t have any money or the patience to do what it takes to get a teaching degree.
November 19th, 2008 at 4:40 PMUsing
@ LC Subotai Bahadur:
Imagine if you will, a depression like economy. A economy where there are so many out of work that idealism becomes secondary to survival of self and family. Im thinking now that a collapsed economy will advance, not hinder a entities efforts to assert control. First the skids.. millions unemployed…. then displaced…. then hungry…. crime is necessary to eat., desperation is allowed to set in. Next comes the “government” ala the workforce created in response to the last depression. “Join us… we’ll give you government housing and substance living AND well give you training and a gun”. We’ll give you work so your family wont starve. “Join us”. Turn in your firearms and join us, and your family can eat.
Interesting…. with the inevitable collapse of the auto makers on the horizon we may be looking at the “perfect storm” indeed. Kiss Detroit goodbye.. and probably rightly so.. they along with most others were disportionatly GREEDY. Remember back in the 80’s that whole “yuppie” movement, and that dumbas movie ‘Wall Street” with Michael Douglas saying “Greed is good.” A whole bunch of dumbass’s took that shit for gospel. I have long said that there is positive capitialism and negative capitalism….. negative is about conspicuous GREED. Used to be if a company turned a 6 - 8% net profit over a fiscal year.. they were damn healthy and good.. lately the “stockholders” and Exec’s expect 10 & 12%. Is that really reasonable? And everybody feels like thier entitled to cable, internet, etc. Did you know that cable is considered a necessity in regards to bankruptcy? How fucking crazy is that? File bankruptcy.. keep your cable.??? WTF?
The real problem with a economic collapse today is that unlike the the 20’s we are no longer a agrairian society…. the 52% have no clue how to provide for themselves nor the means to do so should it become necessary. I strongly suggest a “rural” extract plan for those of you that are urban and suburban located. Or else you may get very fucking hungry, and have to fight off the wolves at the same time.
November 19th, 2008 at 5:52 PMUsing
@ LC Subotai Bahadur: @ 89.
November 19th, 2008 at 7:31 PMI know.
Too well.
And you are correct.
There is the OATH.
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Civilian Defense Corps = Red Guards = Cultural Revolution = Brown Shirts = Hitler Youth = Young Goat Molesters for Allah…..
The fucking Mau-Mau.
O-Bah-Maaaaa!
O-Baa-a-a-a-Maaa-a-a-a-a!!!
Most nauseating thing I’ve ever seen/heard.
EVER!
I’ve been wondering what’s with all the zombie movies/video games….
Now I know. They are a (unconscious?) metaphor for the last living individualist/conservatives mowing down the legions of braindead Obots who, of course, are reduced to feeding off the labor of the responsible and free, unable and unwilling to think or provide for themselves.
May there be a fitting end to the bastards who are perpetrating this disaster. In THIS world AND the Next.
November 19th, 2008 at 8:22 PMIt is of little comfort to think that they’ll get theirs come Judgment Day. Let ‘em have it NOW and save this Nation and the hope of Liberty for all mankind.
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Note to self:
November 19th, 2008 at 8:42 PMAdd case of MREs to bug out kit.
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@ LC Subotai Bahadur:
“Now that they have absolute power, and have promised to create a separate armed force outside the control of the military for their own uses; it is unrealistic, at minimum, to operate on the assumption that the law and Constitution would restrain their actions when they know that there will be absolutely no consequences for anything they do.”
That has to be the ‘tipping point’. Surely the US Military, whose rank and file have all taken the Oath and many of whom have risked it all to defend the Nation, will not only not cooperate in these schemes but also will not stand by and see a political army created to nullify them and enslave the people.
How can The Enemy, with all the economic distress, find the funds and the time to implement this Corps before the right people decide enough is enough? First, they would have to disarm us all, then emasculate the military. To say that either of these, in a time of war with very real and determined foreign enemies, would produce very serious unintended consequences is an understatement.
I pray every night that there are still men of principle and courage sufficient to purge this a(o)bomination.
November 19th, 2008 at 9:02 PMUsing
@ Jon the Imperial Hunter:
“Surely the US Military, whose rank and file have all taken the Oath and many of whom have risked it all to defend the Nation, will not only not cooperate in these schemes but also will not stand by and see a political army created to nullify them and enslave the people.”
Unfortunately not all who have taken the Oath understand what it means and more unfortunate still are those who disregard it completely.
Though currently serving in the Navy Seabees I am prior service Army. I served eight years in the Army, two and a half in the Reserve, which convinced me that the Active Army might be a good choice of career, then three years Active which convinced me otherwise.
What convinced me otherwise were the attitudes and behaviors that I observed while serving. Admittedly, the comments that I make here come from the perspective of a support soldier. My MOS was first 76C (Parts Load List Clerk) then converted to 92A (Automated Logistics Specialist).
First I found that the support field was full of politics and pencil whipping. No one really gave much of a damn about doing the job properly the only thing that mattered was that the paperwork made it look like something was getting done, whether it was or not. It might be imagined that fixing the f##k ups that resulted made for some long hours of uncompensated overtime (Yeah, technically you paid a salary while in the service so there is no “overtime”. I think many of us will agree that our service members are under-compensated as it is, take almost any enlisted pay-grade you chose and divide it into an hourly wage and you might agree with me about uncompensated overtime).
The second thing I discovered was the pervasion of CYOA (Cover Your Own A##). Basically, the attitude that so long as your own s##t was in order no one else’s problems mattered. If getting your s##t in order meant dropping your problems in someone else’s lap, so be it. This also meant that if you were senior and were told to implement a policy that you knew would create work for your subordinates then you kept your mouth shut and implemented the policy. It’s not like you would be fixing the problems that got created anyway. Besides, what else are subordinates for, right?
The final disillusionment was the attitude of my fellow subordinates. Upon learning of an imminent deployment to Somalia the general consensus was that no one had enlisted to be deployed. Of course everyone still expected to be granted the benefits that they were promised when they enlisted, but they did not expect that they might be selected to be deployed into a hot zone to earn those benefits (Thinking back on it, it makes me wonder that they did not question BASIC TRAINING,“Why are we learning all this combat stuff anyway? I enlisted to be supply.” ).
As I said, this is all from the point-of-view of a support soldier. I also had friends in combat arms, mostly of the 19K and 19D persuasion as I was stationed on Ft. Hood. They said that their experiences were very much different. Apparently, when your job might put you into the immediate line-of-fire and you may depend on the guy next to you to save your bacon you realize very quickly that it would be a bad idea to play politics and screw him over. Unfortunately, in the support field there is no such sense of camaraderie.
So, what is the upshot? From my experience there are many who either choose to disregard the Oath or do not understand what it means when they take it. Not only this, but also that taking the Oath does not automatically educate one in the history of a political candidate. I find it unfortunate to report that even in my current detachment there are those who supported Obama. Did they know everything that had gone unreported about him and what has been discovered about him since? I cannot answer this. What I can say is that when the topic was discussed they sounded about as well informed as anyone else who supported him, which unfortunately is not very.
November 19th, 2008 at 11:09 PMUsing
There it is. Tha crux of the biscuit.
That fine print.
An agreement. A promise. A CONTRACT.
A little scribble that describes exactly what whom shall do.
On their honor.
That growing disrespect for ones own signature, “I had to sign it or they wouldn’t let me in, now I don’t wanna;,,,,(fill in the blank)!” is what I think is at the bottom of our national malaise.
“Sign anything to get anything, ditch later, don the victim of economic injustice hat, screw the pooch,, console y’self by saying everybody’s doing it.” (SPIT)
‘Haven’t taken any oaths m’self, but if circumstances left me with a decision of making a difference or just making a fuss,, well, we’ll see what happens.
November 20th, 2008 at 3:14 PM‘Bet the enemy won’t be using it for propaganda tho’.
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