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Nov
27
2008
Happy Turkey Day
Posted by: Emperor Misha I in Blogs and Blogging, Lefty America-Haters, Verbal Bitch Slaps12:14 PM
…and make sure that the turkey isn’t the only thing stuffed at the end of the day.
For your reading gratification while you take in the smells wafting from the kitchen, we bring you a post from LC & IB Blackiswhite, who stumbled across a liberal turkey doing the usual liberal shtick of “celebrating” a national holiday by crapping, peeing and vomiting all over our beloved nation.
His skewering, slicing, dicing and obliteration of the twat is a thing of beauty to behold.
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Indeed it was, and thus has BiW come to my blogroll!
November 27th, 2008 at 12:28 PMUsing
GENOCIDE?
Of what genocide does he speak? There are more aboriginal Americans alive now than there were in the 1400s. If there was a genocide it must have been run by the likes of the so-called “journalist” who wrote that piece of tripe.
November 27th, 2008 at 12:36 PMI always thought that those who worked as wordsmiths had to at least know the meanings of the words they used. This one apparently subscribes to the HumptyDumpty school of thought of definitions: “when I use a word, it means exactly what I want it to mean.”
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@ LC Ogrrre, Imperial Grouch:Og. The word “Smith” has long been used to denote skill at some particular trade. It usually implied to some form of manual labor or artisanship. Wordsmith is more of an oxymoron than a description, as is so beautifully exemplified by this idiot. She uses words to prove that she is a moron(not in the aoshq’s use of moron). There must be a very large cave that houses all these moonbats. They appear as if by magic, shit all over everything, then disappear. Time for some Vietnam-era “Tunnel-Rat” exterminators. :em96:
November 27th, 2008 at 1:02 PMUsing
Happy thanksgiving Rotts! Although I am unknown on this site, I visit it daily and have the most profound respect for the readers and the Royalty. Best wishes to all of you, your friends and families. :em03:
November 27th, 2008 at 3:09 PMUsing
First of all, the Redmond-Reporter is one of about a 100 “reporter” papers in this area. Hardly anyone reads it because it is mostly an advertising rag they pass out for free in stores and malls.
Secondly, I didn’t find anything in that article that was false. In fact, its basic premise was true — much of our “history” is sanitized and completely made up.
Christopher Columbus DIDN’T “discover” the US. He didn’t come within a thousand miles of it. The first “Thanksgiving” wasn’t that happy story of getting along with the “Indians”. We killed off entire tribes of them.
But that aside, there is NOTHING wrong with our current thoughts of creating a day where we can be thankful for what we have in our lives. I just wish we wouldn’t make up a back story to validate it.
November 27th, 2008 at 3:15 PMUsing
Don’t be too hard on the dumass guilt mongering killsports, let ‘em stay complacent and smug in their lofty airheaded cloud of self blame.
November 27th, 2008 at 4:32 PMNot a single poultry porkin’ one of them could EVER live through those years of incredible hardships, hard work, social/economic/sexual/racial injustice before the daily (SPIT) kos sorted it all out for us.
Please folks, let them remain feeling secure enough to spew snot everywhere sacred.
They’ll grow even more lazy, stupid, and most importantly, soft, tender. Juicy.
‘Coz after tha shit hits for real, they’ll be my food.
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DJ Allyn, ITW sez:
HORSESHIT! At the time of the first Thanksgiving, there were not enough puritans to be off KILLING entire tribes. The reason for the first meal was one of common survival, the combining of resources and was a demonstration of two cultures ability to co-exist. They didnt have time nor the numbers for offensive killing spree’s. They were too busy just trying to survive. Im sure the Puritans practiced self defense when necessary but not repeat NOT OFFENSIVE OPERATIONS. It is nonsense to lump the behaviors that occured later on in history on top of the premise for this holiday.
Also take into account that the Native Americans were also in the habit of commiting genocide and practicing slavery within thier culture along with just about every other fucking culture in the world at the time. It was the way war was practiced.
November 27th, 2008 at 5:44 PMUsing
Deej,
Who ever claimed Columbus discovered the United States? Now history might not be my strongest point but as I recall the U.S. wasn’t around for another 300 years or so when Chris was doing his thing. Kind of hard to discover something that doesn’t yet exist. So your assertion, while almost correct, was never needed, nobody was saying Columbus discovered the U.S. By the way, the island of Hispanola is not more than 1,000 miles from the mainland of the American continent so you are only partially correct in your assertion.
There was no genocide of native peoples. There were conflicts and people died but there was no genocide. For example the myth of the smallpox-infected blankets that were allegedly deliberately given to Indians to cause them to contract the disease has been thoroughly debunked yet there are still those, like Ward Churchhill, who spread this lie around.
Deej, this is not a fact-based article - it is not an article at all - it is opinion, and is posted as such on the Web page of the Redmond Reporter.
November 27th, 2008 at 6:08 PMUsing
[...] I thought I would stop by and see what some of the blogs I read are doing for thanksgiving. [...]
November 27th, 2008 at 7:11 PMUsing
LC TerribleTroy, Imperial Centurion sez:
I meant over the next couple of hundred years.
Here is an exercise for you:
Google the following:
“This day forth shall be a day of celebration and thanksgiving for subduing the Pequots.”
The quote is a proclamation from the Governor of Massachusetts Bay Colony following the massacre of 700 Pequot men, women and children.” In 1637, the Pequot tribe of Connecticut gathered for the annual Green Corn Dance ceremony. Mercenaries of the English and Dutch attacked and surrounded the village; burning down everything and shooting whomever try to escape.
THAT was the first official Thanksgiving. The other story is just that: a story, that has been sanitized to make us FEEL better about ourselves, much like a lot of other crap we learned.
Another fairy tale we learned as kids was that George Washington chopped down a cherry tree. It never happened, but we needed to have a moralistic story to make us believe we had this great little history.
Wake up. Like every other culture and nation past, present, and future, we had some despicable periods in our history. We practiced genocide on a very major scale, we persecuted people we didn’t agree with politically, religiously or racially. We worked our very young children in virtual slave labor until the 1920s, we treated some races as partial humans and others as animals. Women had a slightly higher status as chattel.
LC NevadaDailySteve Imperial Scrivener sez:
Not the “United States”, — the Americas. He made it as far as the West Indies and that was it. He never set foot anywhere in the Americas.
LC NevadaDailySteve Imperial Scrivener sez:
I DID mention that the “Redmond-Reporter” is pretty much the same “paper” as the “Kirkland-Reporter”, or the “Issaquah-Reporter”. It goes by about a hundred different names depending on what city the bundles are dropped in. They are predominately a shopper rag with a few items they call “news”. They are free at most super market entrances and are dumped off by the bundle at most apartments buildings and office buildings.
But yes, the premise of that opinion is correct. The point being made was that our polished and shiny “history” is not as factual as the fairy tales we were told as children.
As far as those smallpox blankets, the natives were had never been exposed to a lot of the diseases the White Man brought over to this country. There is a LOT of empirical evidence that there was a deliberate effort to exterminate the natives.
Our history is not pure or even close to it. I understand the “NEED” to believe that it was at all costs even to the point of sticking your fingers in your ears and singing “la la la la la” so as not to hear the truth and shatter the image you have of lollipops and gumdrop dreams, but the reality is a whole different story.
Now I know that the knee-jerk reaction to this “treacherous” “moonbat” thought is to name-call, and call me every nasty thing you can think of. But I think you will have missed the point.
I know the history only to not want to repeat it. There isn’t anything I can do to change what happened, but that doesn’t mean I am going to ignore what happen and make up a lovely tale to tell my children. It happened, and it is in the past. All we can do is learn the lessons from our past and be better in the future. It doesn’t make ME or my country any different by acknowledging the fact that our past isn’t as pure as the Walt Disney version of our history. Every country, every nation has had some periods of its history that were terrible — we are no different.
November 27th, 2008 at 10:06 PMUsing
*sigh*
November 27th, 2008 at 10:13 PMYes, we know of many atrocities, mostly arising from less than honest assessments provided by the unscrupulous to the less than fully informed populations and their leadership, goading them into outrageous solutions.
That’s idiotarianism at work.
Thanks muchly for reminding us not to repeat it.
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Oh, just stick him like a pig and be done with it. What’s a little more blood?
Bwahahaha!
Happy Thanksgiving, all! And may all goodhearted and true Americans survive the coming winter in fine estate!
November 27th, 2008 at 10:41 PMUsing
DJ Allyn, ITW sez:
And our behavior mirrored every other society of the period. It was the way things were. My desire isnt to whitewash the true events of the past. But the mentality behind that opinon piece wasnt a lesson to not forget the past, but more an insinuation that the holiday should be celebrated with some sense of guilt which is BULLSHIT. Why should I feel guilty or sad or any fucking emotion about actions that occured in the past, and that every other nation in the world (more or less) were also participants. Its just the way things were.
And as far an interpting “What you meant”, there was no indication in your post to lead someone to beleive that you were discussing the “official” first Thanksgiving, or the actual interaction with the Indians during the first years. Nor did you give any indication that you were alluding to “the first couple of hundred years.”
I found the “opinion piece” to be an purposeful attack on holiday morale. I beleive its intent was none other than to undermine the national psyche. When it comes to my nation.. I know we havent been perfect…. but I beleive that we have done a helluva lot more good for the world and humanity… than we have done bad.
November 27th, 2008 at 11:03 PMUsing
LC Cheapshot911, Dept. of Redneck Tech sez:
:em99:
As if I thought THAT would work. Americans have a collective memory that goes back maybe two years, at best. Some can’t even remember last week, nor do they care. They have this Candyland mentality to our history, and I will bet there are a lot of people who believe that Christmas trees are in the Bible.
We have an entire generation of people who grew up since 1980 that barely learned history in school. It just isn’t anything that is taught any more.
Much of our “history” is nothing more than propaganda — and always has been. What is that old saying about the victors writing the history?
Winston Churchill has been attributed to the following:
“History is written by the victors.”
I suspect that he borrowed the thought from the latin, “Vae Victus”
Churchill also said the following:
“History will be kind to me for I intend to write it”
November 27th, 2008 at 11:06 PMUsing
DJ Allyn, ITW sez:
You are correct, fortunatly those are the sheep, not the ones making decisions.
DJ Allyn, ITW sez:
Again correct, but it is also your position that what was being taught was little more than propaganda to begin with….
Im not going to approach our history from a negative perspective…methodolgy was based upon the social climate of the time…. and we were successful.
November 27th, 2008 at 11:18 PMUsing
LC TerribleTroy, Imperial Centurion sez:
I don’t think we have been any better or worse than any other nation out there. As far as an attack on “holiday morale”, I think there is a HUGE difference between what the original Thanksgiving as proclaimed by the Governor in 1637 and the current version attributed to Lincoln and later FDR who made it a nationally unified holiday in 1941.
I know it is natural for Conservatives to have this totalitarian attitude that it isn’t right to criticize our nation for any reason. But that is a bastardized vision of what this country has always been about. For the past eight years, Liberals weren’t “allowed” to criticize President
HooverBush for running this country into the ground. “You don’t criticize this nation or president while we are at WAR™”Horse Pussy. That is EXACTLY the time to criticize.
I am under no illusions that now that President Obama (say it a few times, you will get used to it) will be our Commander-in-Chief and leader of the nation, you will waste NO time criticizing his every move.
(Oh wait, you already started.)
Why should I care? You have EVERY RIGHT to criticize this country and its leaders. It is wholly American to do so. We ALL have that right, even if you wanted to deprive us on the Left of that right in the past.
But I am not going to candy-coat our history to make it easier to swallow. I am not going to do that for the present either.
November 27th, 2008 at 11:24 PMUsing
What the heck, I had to toss in my 3cents worth thusly:
November 28th, 2008 at 12:55 AMUsing
I know, a long shot, but something tells me there’s just enough in your little peanut that might be worth cultivating.
Yep, the ones that haven’t been back and forth through it a few times might make that assessment.
We call em’ moonbats.
T’ink I can see what’s buggin you.
November 28th, 2008 at 8:48 AMSome folks just don’t seem to feel your pain the way you’d like em’ to.
Oh we know it’s there, but lemme expand a bit.
If you’re at a funeral, wedding, New Years celebration, or a party of any kind and decide to butt into a eulogy, dissertation, or the vows with some ambiguous, arrogant, depressing “corrections”, you can expect the crowd to glare and snort.
Only that, if you’re lucky.
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DJ Allyn, ITW sez:
Two things about this statement, 1) It is you that is defining the Holiday as 1637, the writer did not.. so unless you wrote it.. then please dont move the proverbial goal posts. AND 2) there were Native Americans at the “official” 1637 Thanksgiving, could it be that they were the enemies of the penquiot? Could it be that we invited our allies to sup with us and celebrate the defeat of a mutual enemy?
DJ Allyn, ITW sez:
Oh yeah? Then where did we get the term BDS? Where did we get “Bush Lied people Died”? Code Pink? Cindy Sheehan, BERKELY, calls for impeachment… CMON man how in the fuck can you make a statement like “Liberals weren’t allowed to criticize”? He’s probably been the most domestically maligned President in History, with Clinton being a close second. Man .. you really lost some credibility with me by writing that. What were you drinking? I mean that is just so high on the NONSENSE curve, that I cant believe that you went there.
Now understand I’m not a big fan of Bush… I think he was adequate to good, and he got lucky with the prosecution of Iraq only being saved by Patreaus. But he did respond to 9/11 calmly and exhibited the leadership we needed at that time with clear, concise language we all understand. So he gets credit for that.
In the mean time I will only call Obama a charletan that is SO weak he had to surround himself with a bunch of Clintonites. I believe the band “WHO” said it best….”meet the new Boss….. same as the Old Boss”……. The only real thing that has “changed” is the overt duplicity of a National Media to corrupt the election process. So I will only Address Obama as the Charletan in Chief……and I make this promise to you. I will not criticize Obama with anymore vitriol, and vehemence… than I personally witnessed coming from the “Democrats” within the past four years. You have my word of Honor.
November 28th, 2008 at 9:32 AMUsing
All this “white guilt” bullshit is so tedious and boring. I am not buying it. I feel no guilt about shit that happened in the past, that I did not even fucking do. I am an individual, not a part of some amorphous collective mass, and therefore I will not be held fraudulently responsible for what someone else allegedly did all these years ago. So, to guilt-pimping whiners: shove it where the sun don’t shine. I. DON’T. GIVE. A. FUCK.
November 28th, 2008 at 9:45 AMUsing
Deej,
You said specifically the U.S., and I quote: “Christopher Columbus DIDN’T “discover” the US. He didn’t come within a thousand miles of it. ”
You didn’t say the American mainland, you said specifically the United States, which is proven by using you own words. Don’t blame me that you messed up, just fess up and ’nuff said. But of course you can’t do that, you’re a liberal and liberals never make mistakes.
No, it is not. Your contention that native peoples were the victims of genocide is wrong. There is not a shred of empirical evidence that there was any such thing. What you have are some quotes from people which you can argue represent evidence if you interpret them as American hating liberals are wont to do, but there is no solid evidence. Were there people who would have killed all the Indians? Yes, there were some; but they did not constitute the policy makers, they were just localized haters.
You liberals love that hate America crap that idiots like Ward Churchill put out but it is totally wrong. Sure there are events that happened that were wrong, but liberals are quick to put too much emphasis on the fact the U.S. is not perfect and focus on all the imperfections you see. You can’t say “This country has done more for oppressed people around the world than all the other countries combined,” which is true - you say “This country isn’t perfect so it is evil.”
You want to see evidence of native populations decimated look south of the border, the Spanish were much more efficient at that than the U.S., and even they didn’t accomplish genocide.
As far as Obama is concerned, come Jan. 20th he will be the president and I will give him the respect that deserves. If he does something I disagree with I will say so, not because I hate Obama, but because I have always done that - no matter who was in the Oval office.
November 28th, 2008 at 10:10 AMUsing
DJ Allyn, ITW sez:
Ach, horse hockey. I have absolutely no problem with people criticizing their little heads off as long as the subject is things going on currently that we can do something about, should the criticism win popular support.
What bores and annoys me to to distraction is professional hand-wringers and whiners who just can’t help it but grab every opportunity, great or small, relevant or not, to moan and piss and insist that we all feel deep abiding guilt over something that we had nothing to do with and that we can’t do fuck all to change unless somebody invents a time machine.
I mean, what can one possibly hope to achieve by pointing out how horrible we all are because our nation was “built on the backs of slaves” or some such similar nonsense? I don’t recall having ever had slaves, I don’t recall having ever killed a Native American to steal his stuff and, moreover, if somebody were to suggest that we do something like that in the present, then I’d be the first to man the barricades and tell the fuckhead to shut up or else.
If not to deliberately piss on your own nation and encourage a wholly unjustifiable sense of national “guilt”, then what for?
November 28th, 2008 at 10:34 AMUsing
Deej, I know that you feel that some sort of great weight has been lifted from your poor, tired, oppressed shoulders with the election of the embodiment of Eminence Front, The Blessed One™, the savior of all who refuse to live up to their end of the American Compact and actively pursue their happiness, rather than expecting to have it spoon-fed to them by government, but Bush and Cheney are not the source of all evil in the land any more than they caused the current economic mess that you seem so eager to lay at his feet with your derogatory “Hoover” remark (Barney Frank et al, call you office.) I know that those on your side of the fence will always think it necessary to find fault with our nation and history, and will more than happily concoct contorted and selective readings of history in order to support any narrative that would require our collective gaze to be pointed at our feet rather than the next rampart.
The point of the fisk was to fillet a truly stupid op-ed that started with a false premise and only went downhill from there. As for your point of it being one of many “Reporters”, I’m afraid I don’t understand. Does the fact that it is one of many local rags in the area somehow make it less worth of being called out as the steaming loaf of stupid that someone pinched off in an attempt at writing a serious and thought-provoking essay? If anything, its publication is indicative of just what has gone so wrong in our society today, and as someone who knows better, it is my DUTY to slice and dice it for the sophistry that it represents. “Genocide”, the term tossed about like a bit of fertilizer on a field of crops, denotes a concerted effort to exterminate an entire people. While there were certainly instances of the evvvviiilll white man committing atrocities against various tribes, there never was a “genocide”, your quote from 1637, 16 years after the landing at Plymouth, notwithstanding. What this op-ed was was yet another attempt to create the perception that things actually happened the way the left wants to believe they happened. Nothing else. And despite the well-deserved evisceration applied to this piece of work, I’m equally confident that given the general state of denial that King County exists in, the author will be patted on the head and given a cookie for their labors on behalf of the movement. As for your defenses of the this ‘work’ here, keep slamming your penis in the door. Yes, as a guy, it makes me cringe, but you simply will not force me to look down. Looking down for too long is what lead us to a place were publishing nonsense like this became acceptable in the first place.
November 28th, 2008 at 1:04 PMUsing
I think part of this irritating attitude is due to a differing definition of justice and fairness. The Left definition is more concerned with equity in situations, while the Right definition is more concerned with actions.
Because the Left is more concerned about situations, a nation being “built on the back of slaves” is an inescapably dreadful source of all kinds of guilt-provoking questions– how many presently existing families with “old money” can trace their lineage back to slave owners? In how many presently existing corporations have these people invested money? Why are there still so many poor and uneducated black people? Why do the ones who do pursue higher education tend to be disproportionately less interested in software programming than white people, favoring medicine and engineering instead? All of these situations are inequities that in the Left mind must be rectified in order to achieve justice, and when the root of the problem is in the unchangeable past, it becomes a bogeyman that can only be defeated if the United States of America are entirely destroyed.
The Right is more concerned about actions. What are people doing now? Is slavery being practiced now? To tell a real problem from all the fake problems in the world, look beneath the seemingly inequitable situation and find out if the people are actually acting agreeably towards one another, before you start
shit-stirring“community organizing” to get people to demand more and more and more and more.Hey, I just noticed after standing at an angle to my LCD monitor that there’s a Rott watermark-esque image in the reply window .
November 28th, 2008 at 2:00 PMUsing
DJ Allyn says…
There is NOTHING on this planet that is 100% pure or perfect, but as Abraham Lincoln, one of our greatest Presidents, said,”The true rule, in determining to embrace, or reject any thing, is not whether it have any evil in it; but whether it have more of evil, than of good. There are few things wholly evil, or wholly good. Almost every thing, especially of governmental policy, is an inseparable compound of the two; so that our best judgment of the preponderance between them is continually demanded [June 20, 1848].” . Believing that, a logical person must conclude that a Values Decision must be made behind which there is no compromise .
November 28th, 2008 at 2:37 PMI don’t know of any of my 1950-s childhood friends that suffered from that which we were taught in schools, about the Pilgrims, Geo Washington, Thomas Jefferson, etc. ; if anything, we all acquired a love for our Country that was unknown to those of the ’60s to date whose parents failed miserably in that regard. The John Wayne westerns and WWII and Korean War movies we all watched made us increasingly proud to be American. The principles required in order to be of this nationality were very clear. While I feel sorry that there are those who feel they must be apologetic, as you do, DEEJ, I feel sorrier for their children who were never really given the option to expererience uncompromised love for their country at the selfless sacrifice of countless others who gave it all to allow that.
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Holy Batshit! It’s one of those “subliminal messages” we heard about a couple of Elections ago! Put on your Bat-goggles or you’ll instinctively attack any LefTard or Obamatron within reach, in true Rottie fashion!
November 28th, 2008 at 3:12 PMUsing
LC Paladin sez:
Without the slightest doubt. Mind, heart and spirit.
November 28th, 2008 at 11:57 PMUsing
I think DJ needs a new title or two–such as Kicker of Dead Horses or Slayer of Straw Men–”With–aaaa–(red) herring!“
November 30th, 2008 at 12:45 AMUsing
I’v'e come to the conclusion that the reason that DJ is so… how do I say .. unfuckingreasonable lately is that he is in his honeymoon phase. The endorphins from the orgasmic “landslide” 4% victory of the media annointed one havent reduced yet. He’s walking around with a perpetual Obama / Liberal chubby… and just cannot resist breaking it out and waving it around.. Much like his idol Billy Bob.
Ultimatley I forgive him… and this will pass too. Eventually he will realize that instead of a high end call girl that he paid for, all he got was a crack-head street tramp.
November 30th, 2008 at 12:25 PMUsing
Deej sez:
yep you poor lefties were certainly not “allowed” to criticize President
HooverBush were you:well, now that we have president Lenin Obama in the White House, expect some of this to be thrown back at you. Biggest difference will be that our messengers will be a bit more “adult” in how they convey their protests….
As for your claim of totalitarian repression of free speech and dissent, please refresh my memory as to who was president when the military was turned loose on dissidents in Waco…..and who was president when machine gun wielding agents kicked in the door of an American citizens house to kidnap a Cuban boy at gunpoint.
jeeez, talk about rewriting history. Seems that your side has the monopoly on propagandists there.
November 30th, 2008 at 12:39 PMUsing