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Did you know that the Founding Fathers screwed the pooch when they wrote into the Constitution that we had right to bear arms? Yep. They obviously thought that we would be enemies with Britain forever and forgot to read those tea leaves they dumped into Boston Harbor. Now that we’re allies with the Brits we don’t need those nasty guns anymore.

Thus saith another GFW who is scraping the bottom of his cranium to come up with another half assed reason for banning guns.

It is better to be silent and thought a fool, than to open your mouth and remove all doubt.

~Abraham Lincoln~

87 Responses to “Another GFW Opens Mouth, Proves He’s A Fool.”
  1. Imperial Tobacconist™ LC&IB M Comment by Imperial Tobacconist™ LC&IB M UNITED STATES

    The British found greater spoils in Africa and India and never looked back on the United States after the Revolutionary War.

    That is to say, they didn’t look back until about, oh, 1812. Or again when they invaded and burned the Capitol in 1814. This idiot has obviously never picked up a history book.

  2. SeniorD Comment by SeniorD UNITED STATES

    The right to bear arms is killing all of us.

    - First, actually, it’s only a small, clearly identifiable segment of the population. The CONSTITUTION grants citizens the Right to Bear Arms. Until a Constitutional Convention crafts an Amendment denying citizens that Right AND the Congress approves AND the majority of the citizens of this country vote FOR the Amendment, it stays a Right. Deal with it.

    In 2005 the Center for Disease Control and Prevention reported 3,006 children and teens killed by gunfire, most of them young, black men in inner-city neighborhoods.

    - OK, here we have someone mixing apples and pomegranates. 3,006 children and teens were killed then you further qualify those killings as young, black, inner-city men (thus easily recognizable). Last time I looked, the inner city (let’s use Detroit as an example) makes Fallujah look tame. These youngsters run in packs, deal in illegal drugs, commit drive-by killings, routinely pop a cap into some innocent person for fun or just find themselves painted with a target. Besides, as seen in the supposedly gun-free UK, when goblins want guns, goblins get guns whether it’s legal or not.

    And CNN reported yesterday that black-on-black murder of young black men is up 40 percent from last year. The harder the times get, the higher these statistics will go.

    - OK, using 3,006 as the baseline number for 2005, we get an increase of 1,202 (40% of 3006) young black men over two years. That sounds like an overall decrease in per year numbers.

    Black on Black crime has ALWAYS been a problem and it is up to the Black ‘Leadership’ to come up with a solution. It’s YOUR problem, YOU deal with it. Once the crime scene gets down to a civilized level, maybe, just maybe, business will start coming back.

    Oh, I would not consider exporting black on black crime as black on white crime outside the urban centers. There are people out here that have MUCH bigger weapons, know how to use them to maximum efficiency and don’t like their friends and families threatened.

  3. Mike M Comment by Mike M

    It never ceases to amaze. There’ll always be somebody out there singing that same tired, naive “ban guns and there won’t be any more guns” refrain. What a dope. Yet, he seems to fit right in on that site. On the same page, there’s another contributor who calls herself “Bonnie Bucqueroux” and she’s making fun of Sarah Palin’s grandson’s name. Another one named “Libby” is, of all things, bashing Bush and his “apologists”.

  4. LC Mrs. M-ITT™-Imperial Sniper Comment by LC Mrs. M-ITT™-Imperial Sniper UNITED STATES

    SeniorD sez:

    The CONSTITUTION grants citizens the Right to Bear Arms.

    Actually the Bill of Rights and the Constitution recognizes that the Right To Bear Arms is a G-D Given Right. The Founding Fathers acknowledged that there are certain inalienable rights that even they themselves as the authors of our Government could not grant nor take away. The reason it was even written into those documents was because they knew that there would be tyrants that would attempt to do otherwise. Therefore even if the Constitution were to be amended, it would be not change the fact that we as human beings have the right to protect ourselves, our families and our property. They can make it against the law, but that doesn’t make that law justifiable or legitimate because it is attempting to take away something that they themselves don’t have the right to confer or eliminate from our society.

  5. SeniorD Comment by SeniorD UNITED STATES

    MRS,

    I agree in principle. However both documents establish the rule of law (which for some strange reason ignores God). Thus, if the Constitution was Amended, the entire body of law providing that Right is moot.

  6. LC  MuscleDaddy, Имперский Заключительный Ответ Comment by LC MuscleDaddy, Имперский Заключительный Ответ UNITED STATES

    SeniorD @ #2:

    Ah, Yes - MuscleDaddy-The-Elder used to teach in Detroit, and had an oft-repeated phrase related to programs for “at-risk” students - went something like this:

    “At-risk-students” my ass!
    The only ones “at-risk” is anyone within gun-or-knife range!”

    I actually went to the trouble of registering over there, just so I could point out that these guys (for instance) would be singularly unimpressed with his “ban”….

    Leaving only those who deal with weapons-smugglers…armed (and everyone else at the mercy-for-which-such-people-are-known).

    Jackass.

    - MuscleDaddy

  7. LC Duncan Comment by LC Duncan UNITED STATES

    Imperial Tobacconist™ LC&IB M @:

    I was thinking the same thing. War of 1812. Another reason this douche-nozzle lacks any credibility.

  8. LC cmblake6, Imperial Black Ops Technician Comment by LC cmblake6, Imperial Black Ops Technician

    It is better to be silent and thought a fool, than to open your mouth and remove all doubt.

    ~Abraham Lincoln~

    Too late.
    Not to mention, we’ve lost exactly what by his description of the principle death type? We do not need thugs and gang-bangers anyway. I’ve often thought we should airdrop weapons and munitions into that sort of neighborhood.

  9. LC HJ Caveman82952 Comment by LC HJ Caveman82952

    I do have a question for this jerk……a gun ban, huh?
    You gonna’ start with black inner city youth? Go ahead, pass your silly national gun ban, but pray tell, just who do you have in mind to enforce it? :em96: :em01:

  10. Blackiswhite, Imperial Agent Provocateur Comment by Blackiswhite, Imperial Agent Provocateur

    That is to say, they didn’t look back until about, oh, 1812. Or again when they invaded and burned the Capitol in 1814. This idiot has obviously never picked up a history book.

    Its even better than that. As a resident of Detroit, you might think that he would at least be dimly aware of US and British warships mixing it up on the Great Lakes during that second conflict. Or the fact that Detroit was actually British territory for part of that conflict, as was much of the state, and had a seat in Parliament in Ottawa. I’d call him an idiot, but that really wouldn’t do justice to idiots.

  11. L C hilljohnny Comment by L C hilljohnny UNITED STATES

    look at Mr. Smith’s profile . it explains the ignorance displayed in his article.

  12. LC AnnieMcPhee Comment by LC AnnieMcPhee UNITED STATES

    Well I got as far as the title: “Ban All Guns” and that was about it. Does this asstard have any influence?

  13. Blackiswhite, Imperial Agent Provocateur Comment by Blackiswhite, Imperial Agent Provocateur

    I do have a question for this jerk……a gun ban, huh?
    You gonna’ start with black inner city youth? Go ahead, pass your silly national gun ban, but pray tell, just who do you have in mind to enforce it?

    Caveman, this is the same kind of fool who would bitch endlessly about the tragedy of black men being thrown in prison for long sentances for violating the ban he is lobbying for.

  14. LC AnnieMcPhee Comment by LC AnnieMcPhee UNITED STATES

    “The right to bear arms is killing all of us. In 2005 the Center for Disease Control and Prevention reported 3,006 children and teens killed by gunfire, most of them young, black men in inner-city neighborhoods. And CNN reported yesterday that black-on-black murder of young black men is up 40 percent from last year. The harder the times get, the higher these statistics will go.”

    So ban guns for black people. It makes as much sense as anything he’s saying.

    Also, how many kids drown in pools every year? 15K? Ban those too.

  15. LC  MuscleDaddy, Имперский Заключительный Ответ Comment by LC MuscleDaddy, Имперский Заключительный Ответ UNITED STATES

    L C hilljohnny @ #11:

    Let’s see… Born in the year of “Octo” (is that a scientologist-thing?), Last voted for Kerry, and can’t stand “Chaney” (apparently the VP in the evil Star Trek parrallel universe).

    Yup - that about covers it.

    - MD

  16. LC Aggie Sith Comment by LC Aggie Sith UNITED STATES

    LC MuscleDaddy, Имперский Заключительный Ответ @6 & 11:

    I read the comments over at that blog. I must say, your post was a thing of beauty, approaching the surgical precision of a daisy cutter. Hats off to you!!! :em04:

    “Chaney” (apparently the VP in the evil Star Trek parrallel universe)

    I bet “Chaney” has a goatee, too…. :em01:

  17. LC AnnieMcPhee Comment by LC AnnieMcPhee UNITED STATES

    Beat me to it Aggie - Muscle Daddy, that was an excellent post. Since the comments there were pretty much running entirely against the guy, I’m not going to bother. Other people are doing a great job putting the moron in his place.

  18. The Lone Haranguer Comment by The Lone Haranguer

    If you thought that guy was stupid, read the other columns. It goes downhill from there.

  19. Wild Bill234 Comment by Wild Bill234

    Large urban settings have some of the most draconian gun laws there are in America. That hasn’t stopped those 3,006 children and teens killed by gunfire, most of them young, black men in inner-city neighborhoods from shooting each other. Insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results. :em98:

  20. L.C. Mope, Imperial Offsetter Comment by L.C. Mope, Imperial Offsetter

    Pardon me while I hijack this thread. Blago named Roland Burris to the Senate. Blago seems to be throwing it in Obama’s face when he had at the news conference Bobby Rush to defend the nomination. Rush was a ‘Black Panther’- think of him as a kindred spirit to Ayers. Bobby Rush claimed that because the only black in the Senate was elected president it would be racist not to confirm Burris.

    I’m telling ya- this is like watching a train wreck,, you just can’t keep your eyes averted. Basically, Blago is telling Obama if Burris ain’t confirmed it would be because Obama ain’t black enough. :em01:

    Ah this is shadenfrude!

  21. jaybear, Colonel of Imperial Ancient Artillery Comment by jaybear, Colonel of Imperial Ancient Artillery UNITED STATES

    L C hilljohnny sez:

    look at Mr. Smith’s profile . it explains the ignorance displayed in his article.

    amen to that Brudda, I liked what he put for his movie that he has to watch at least once a year…..

    Oliver Stone

    :em01: :em99: :em93:

    (said in my best Yoda voice):

    “ohhhhh, strong is the stupid in him”

  22. The Lone Haranguer Comment by The Lone Haranguer

    The author also forgot about the British Twit Invasion. :em02:

  23. jaybear, Colonel of Imperial Ancient Artillery Comment by jaybear, Colonel of Imperial Ancient Artillery UNITED STATES

    The Lone Haranguer sez:

    The author also forgot about the British Twit Invasion.

    see, that’s where I’m deeply conflicted Haranguer, back in the 70’s I had hair down past my shoulders but hated hippies and the anti-war crowd. And I LOVED the music, especially the Beatles. Yeah, did my share of drugs and such but never embraced that culture…..I usually bought pot just to take with me on my many trout fishing trips up in the Colorado rockies..

    I think the real twits were the hysterically screaming girls who were too busy having aneurisms from their screaming to hear that excellent music….

  24. LC cmblake6, Imperial Black Ops Technician Comment by LC cmblake6, Imperial Black Ops Technician

    So, I went over there, read the article, read the comments, and this idiot has ZERO support. Not one. :em41:

  25. LC  MuscleDaddy, Имперский Заключительный Ответ Comment by LC MuscleDaddy, Имперский Заключительный Ответ UNITED STATES

    L.C. Mope, Imperial Offsetter @ #20:

    WooHoo!

    “I don’t think they want to go on record doing that.”

    Roll Tape!

    - MD

  26. LCRedneckProgrammer Comment by LCRedneckProgrammer

    Hail Rotts :em04: :em04:
    @ Jaybear:

    And I LOVED the music, especially the Beatles.

    I had long hair and loved the music of the Beatles.(My favorite Band) Then……sometime around 1980, I figured out that all of the hippies were commies and proceeded to cut my hair. None of this changed the fact that The Beatles were awesome artists, even if politically not correct. I loved John Lennon, I just disagreed with his politics. I can certainly relate to where you are coming from.

  27. LC  MuscleDaddy, Имперский Заключительный Ответ Comment by LC MuscleDaddy, Имперский Заключительный Ответ UNITED STATES

    LCs Aggie Sith & AnnieMcPhee @ 16&17:

    Thank you Evah-so-much! :em93:

    I know I’ll probably never go back there again, but sometimes I get all ‘motivated’.

    - MD

  28. Deathknyte Comment by Deathknyte UNITED STATES

    That is to say, they didn’t look back until about, oh, 1812. Or again when they invaded and burned the Capitol in 1814. This idiot has obviously never picked up a history book.

    You forgot about the fact that the colonies never stopped trade with Britan for the most part.

    And CNN reported yesterday that black-on-black murder of young black men is up 40 percent from last year. The harder the times get, the higher these statistics will go.

    I guess the only solution is to completely disarm the black community.

  29. LC Aggie Sith Comment by LC Aggie Sith UNITED STATES

    LC MuscleDaddy, Имперский Заключительный Ответ @15:

    Born in the year of “Octo” (is that a scientologist-thing?)

    Hmmm….quick search finds several possibilities:

    Octo- prefix for “eighth”, so maybe he was born in the eighth month, or August…. Octo, short for October….or even http://www.octo.org , the home for the Orange County Transporter Organization….

    Of course, being so ethnically inclined, he should have typed “ashta”, Sanskrit for “eight”.

  30. LC Aggie Sith Comment by LC Aggie Sith UNITED STATES

    LC MuscleDaddy, Имперский Заключительный Ответ @27:

    sometimes I get all ‘motivated’.

    If that was “motivated”, I would LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOVE to see you really fired up!!!

    :em01: :em99: :em01:

  31. Unregistered Comment by Interpretive Clog Dancer

    Imperial Tobacconist™ LC&IB M sez:

    The British found greater spoils in Africa and India and never looked back on the United States after the Revolutionary War.
    That is to say, they didn’t look back until about, oh, 1812. Or again when they invaded and burned the Capitol in 1814. This idiot has obviously never picked up a history book.

    Uh, technically speaking, we were the aggressors in the War of 1812. America declared war on Britain in response to the British harassment of American shipping, which, in turn, was a response to the technically neutral America carrying on trade with the French, which was making it a lot harder for Britain to fight Napoleon.

    Let’s say America is fighting a nation that is stronger than it (lets call it Nation B). Nation C is constantly sending supplies to Nation B, and it is well known that Nation C is no friend of America’s, and what’s more, Nation C, America can beat Nation C in a war. Now I know this lot would be calling for war against Nation C, yet Nation C declares war against America?

    The War of 1812 was a result of a still-bitter America thinking they could humiliate their old foes by aiding a tyrant trying to take over Europe. Britain wouldn’t have looked twice at America if America hadn’t tapped them in the back and slapped them in the face. Hell, part of our decision to declare war was based on the fact that America wanted to take over Canada.

  32. jaybear, Colonel of Imperial Ancient Artillery Comment by jaybear, Colonel of Imperial Ancient Artillery UNITED STATES

    LCRedneckProgrammer sez:

    I had long hair and loved the music of the Beatles.(My favorite Band) Then……sometime around 1980, I figured out that all of the hippies were commies and proceeded to cut my hair. None of this changed the fact that The Beatles were awesome artists, even if politically not correct. I loved John Lennon, I just disagreed with his politics. I can certainly relate to where you are coming from.

    George Harrison was always my favorite Beatle, I liked John but his politics and that no talent skag of a wife of his always turned me away from him.

    I kept my hair pretty long up until about 1998, that’s when I lost enough of it that long hair in the back looked pretty stupid with nothing on top. Hell, I had shoulder length hair when I worked for the DoD, you wouldn’t believe the crap I got when I went on base somewhere like Ft. Hood or Knox….but it was all good natured, especially when I told them that if they kept it up I wasn’t buying the first round anymore.

    I have to look around the politics of a lot of the bands back then, bands like Steppenwolf…CSNY…and Steve Miller. I have to do it because the music is so damned good. But what I find funny is that a lot of the stuff they were talking about back then is so relevant today, stuff like fighting against an authoritarian government, excess taxation, oppression by big brother….you know, pretty much the entire DNC playbook.

  33. LC AnnieMcPhee Comment by LC AnnieMcPhee

    The guy says his hero is Gandhi. I left him a nice Gandhi quote that I bet he won’t like.

    Also, what in hell is it to be born in the year “Octo”? Wtf is an octo?

  34. LC  MuscleDaddy, Имперский Заключительный Ответ Comment by LC MuscleDaddy, Имперский Заключительный Ответ UNITED STATES

    Interpretive Clog Dancer @ #31:

    I think you’re going a little cart-before-the-horse there…

    The trade situation with France hadn’t changed significantly (or at least, not in any unpredictable way) since England recognized America’s independence in 1783.

    If “Country C” (US) is friendly and doing business with “Country B”(France), …

    and “Country A”(England) gets into a war with “Country B”…

    Does “Country C’s” continuing to do business with “Country B” constitute ’starting a fight’ with “Country A”?

    I think not.

    Now, should “Country C” expect “Country A” to try to cut off that pre-existing trade with “Country B” - for the sake of the war they’re trying to win?

    Of course.

    That’s still not picking a fight - it’s accepting that to continue on about your own business-as-usual is likely to bring the fight to you.

    Whole different matter.

    - MuscleDaddy

  35. Kristopher, LC Comment by Kristopher, LC UNITED STATES

    Since the British are no longer forbidding political speech by Americans, or mandating the Church of England as the state church, the First Amendment is no longer needed, and can be done away with.

  36. Unregistered Comment by Imperial Librarian Azygos UNITED STATES

    MD, That comment was a thing of beauty but

    “Chaney” (apparently the VP in the evil Star Trek Star Gate SG1 parrallel universe)

    Fixed it for ya :em93:

  37. Unregistered Comment by Hephaestus-forger of steel UNITED STATES

    Deathknyte @:Dk, I have been saying in many related post’s lately that when the “wheels come off the bus” on the national level, it is going to start in the metropolitan areas. I doubt that it is going to start in the high-rise deluxe apartments IYKWIMAITTYD. Taking the guns away from “everyone” really means getting guns out of the hands of those most able to pose a credible defense against further incursions into our freedoms. It would be like cutting the floats of the anti-shark nets during a freeding frenzie. I have thought that we should airlift guns into the inner cities, wait three days, go in and bury the losers and arrest the winners. :em95: :em95: :em69:

  38. jaybear, Colonel of Imperial Ancient Artillery Comment by jaybear, Colonel of Imperial Ancient Artillery UNITED STATES

    Interpretive Clog Dancer sez:

    Uh, technically speaking, we were the aggressors in the War of 1812. America declared war on Britain in response to the British harassment of American shipping, which, in turn, was a response to the technically neutral America carrying on trade with the French, which was making it a lot harder for Britain to fight Napoleon.

    well, historically you’re a little off. By 1812, Napoleon was retreating from Russia and was close to being exiled to Elba. He would resurface in time to lead the 100 days campaign in 1815…culminating in the Battle of Waterloo and his final permanent defeat. Technically, he was through as a threat to Europe..He still had enough fight in him to wage the battle of the nations in 1813 but after that, he got penned in in France with the allies actually taking Paris and rethroning the Bourbons.

    The war was over free trade and British impressment of American seamen to serve on their naval vessels. The Brits actually preferred American seamen over their own, because they considered them more independant minded and “better stock” than the native sailors they pressed into service from the dregs of English society.

    Hell, part of our decision to declare war was based on the fact that America wanted to take over Canada.

    That was part of it, but England and France were already fighting over claim of Canada AND the West Indies. There was a lot of trade there that was necessary for both countries, most notably the lumber in Canada and the northern American territories which both countries needed to expand, upgrade and maintain their naval fleets. England had pretty much deforested itself building a world class navy, the only two sources of the right timber were the Baltic countries and The northern parts of this continent. The War of 1812 was a side theatre in the world war going on in Europe.

    There’s a lot more to the story than your portrayal of a jingoistic America out to prove itself.

  39. LC Aggie Sith Comment by LC Aggie Sith UNITED STATES

    Azy,

    I believe MuscleDaddy and I were referencing the Star Trek episode, “Mirror, Mirror”, although SG1 also had that damn mirror thing in a few episodes.

    Damn Machello…. :em01:

  40. Unregistered Comment by qsilver UNITED STATES

    LC MuscleDaddy, Имперский Заключительный Ответ @:

    Roll Tape!

    Was it just me, or did this guy sound like either a massive stroke victim or a VERY heavy user of pharmaceuticals? And the scary part is these people are running our government.

  41. LC SkyeChild G.L.O.R., Imperial Grammar Hun Comment by LC SkyeChild G.L.O.R., Imperial Grammar Hun UNITED STATES

    In 2005 the Center for Disease Control and Prevention reported 3,006 children and teens killed by gunfire, most of them young, black men in inner-city neighborhoods.

    [emphasis mine]

    See? That just PROVES that guns kill people!

  42. LCBrendan Comment by LCBrendan AUSTRALIA

    Posted in reply

    Dear Mr Smith:

    I live in a nation with lots and lots of gun laws and gun bans. As we speak a man is holding three people hostage,and he is armed with a shotgun.

    We have had armed robberies galore, shootings, murders with guns, home invasions with guns, carjackings with guns, and a few months ago we had a gangland shootout in the middle of a shopping mall.

    NINETY THREE PERCENT of all gun crimes committed are with illegal guns, and I might also add that our police add suicide in as a “gun crime”.

    Two days ago a man held up a bank with an illegal gun.

    Day before that, a man shot a woman with an illegal gun

    Week before that, 200 rounds were pumped into a house.

    We have gun crimes in this city every single day, and speaking as someone who knows, I defy you to prove to me in any way shape or form that a ban on guns will result in anything else other than a massive rise in crime.

    The NSW police have admitted openly that they are helpless to prevent the flow of illegal guns, up to and including machine guns and..I kid you not..rocket launchers, into the city.

    Meanwhile the citizens are banned from even carrying a knife for self protection.

    Ban all guns, and only the criminals will have them.

    Go ahead, argue with me. I live in a nation that is acting the way you want, and the citizens are prisoners in their own homes.

    You, sir, are a fool.

  43. LC AnnieMcPhee Comment by LC AnnieMcPhee

    Um, what’s a GFW?

  44. Unregistered Comment by Jerry

    “Um, what’s a GFW?”

    Gun Fearing Wussy. :em93:

  45. Princess Natasha, Resident Crazy Cat-Lady and Alcohol Snob Comment by Princess Natasha, Resident Crazy Cat-Lady and Alcohol Snob

    The guy is a stupid reject from the shallow end of the gene pool and should die of dysentery.

    Is it really too hard to realize that our right to bear arms does not stem from any government, or any document, but from the very fact that we are human and our life is our highest value? The right to LIFE is an individual’s fundamental right, because without life, WTF is he? Therefore, we have a right to defend LIFE. That’s it. End of fucking story.

  46. Trish Comment by Trish UNITED STATES

    jaybear, Colonel of Imperial Ancient Artillery sez:

    LCRedneckProgrammer sez:
    I had long hair and loved the music of the Beatles.(My favorite Band) Then……sometime around 1980, I figured out that all of the hippies were commies and proceeded to cut my hair. None of this changed the fact that The Beatles were awesome artists, even if politically not correct. I loved John Lennon, I just disagreed with his politics. I can certainly relate to where you are coming from.
    George Harrison was always my favorite Beatle, I liked John but his politics and that no talent skag of a wife of his always turned me away from him.
    I kept my hair pretty long up until about 1998, that’s when I lost enough of it that long hair in the back looked pretty stupid with nothing on top. Hell, I had shoulder length hair when I worked for the DoD, you wouldn’t believe the crap I got when I went on base somewhere like Ft. Hood or Knox….but it was all good natured, especially when I told them that if they kept it up I wasn’t buying the first round anymore.
    I have to look around the politics of a lot of the bands back then, bands like Steppenwolf…CSNY…and Steve Miller. I have to do it because the music is so damned good. But what I find funny is that a lot of the stuff they were talking about back then is so relevant today, stuff like fighting against an authoritarian government, excess taxation, oppression by big brother….you know, pretty much the entire DNC playbook.

    You know something? They’re not the people our parents warned us against. They’re the people they warned us against. :em98:

  47. Deathknyte Comment by Deathknyte UNITED STATES

    America declared war on Britain in response to the British harassment of American shipping, which, in turn, was a response to the technically neutral America carrying on trade with the French, which was making it a lot harder for Britain to fight Napoleon.

    As Jaybear said, America declared war because the British were basically kidnapping American sailors from the ships they were stopping to inspect.

    Deathknyte @:Dk, I have been saying in many related post’s lately that when the “wheels come off the bus” on the national level, it is going to start in the metropolitan areas. I doubt that it is going to start in the high-rise deluxe apartments IYKWIMAITTYD. Taking the guns away from “everyone” really means getting guns out of the hands of those most able to pose a credible defense against further incursions into our freedoms. It would be like cutting the floats of the anti-shark nets during a freeding frenzie. I have thought that we should airlift guns into the inner cities, wait three days, go in and bury the losers and arrest the winners. :em95: :em95: :em69:

    Sarcasam, you missed it. I am well aware that the only guns they get will be ones from people willing to obey the law.

  48. Proud Infidel Comment by Proud Infidel

    That asshat is SO fat that the fat cells have migrated to his head and pushed his brain out of his left ear!! :em01: :em99: Man, if you could put a tax on stupidity, he’d be paying out the wazoo!! :em99: :em01: :em41:

  49. Unregistered Comment by Interpretive Clog Dancer

    LC MuscleDaddy, Имперский Заключительный Ответ sez:

    That’s still not picking a fight - it’s accepting that to continue on about your own business-as-usual is likely to bring the fight to you.

    Yeah, but then Country C is the one who declares war? I agree its not picking a fight to continue about your business even if you know whats going to happen. What is picking a fight is if you know whats going to happen, do it anyway, and than declare war over it.

  50. LC NevadaDailySteve Imperial Scrivener Comment by LC NevadaDailySteve Imperial Scrivener UNITED STATES

    Up in the early comments someone said something about the stupid being strong in this one. Truer words were never spoken. This guy is aggressively stupid, not just passively stupid like so many of his ilk.

    I believe MuscleDaddy and I were referencing the Star Trek episode, “Mirror, Mirror”, although SG1 also had that damn mirror thing in a few episodes.

    That’s what we need. the Tantalus device and Leonard Nimoy and his funny ears ready to push the button on this idiot.

    Is it really too hard to realize that our right to bear arms does not stem from any government, or any document, but from the very fact that we are human and our life is our highest value? The right to LIFE is an individual’s fundamental right, because without life, WTF is he? Therefore, we have a right to defend LIFE. That’s it. End of fucking story.

    Princess,

    Simply beautiful, I bow to your logic.

  51. Eyas Comment by Eyas UNITED STATES

    jaybear, Colonel of Imperial Ancient Artillery sez:

    The Lone Haranguer sez:
    The author also forgot about the British Twit Invasion.
    see, that’s where I’m deeply conflicted Haranguer, back in the 70’s I had hair down past my shoulders but hated hippies and the anti-war crowd. And I LOVED the music, especially the Beatles. Yeah, did my share of drugs and such but never embraced that culture…..I usually bought pot just to take with me on my many trout fishing trips up in the Colorado rockies..
    I think the real twits were the hysterically screaming girls who were too busy having aneurisms from their screaming to hear that excellent music….

    I despise hippies. Hippies then. Hippies now.

    However, it remains an incontrovertible FACT that hippies make the best music. It may be unfortunate, or frustrating; but it is nevertheless true.

    jaybear, Colonel of Imperial Ancient Artillery sez:

    LCRedneckProgrammer sez:

    I have to look around the politics of a lot of the bands back then, bands like Steppenwolf…CSNY…and Steve Miller. I have to do it because the music is so damned good. But what I find funny is that a lot of the stuff they were talking about back then is so relevant today, stuff like fighting against an authoritarian government, excess taxation, oppression by big brother….you know, pretty much the entire DNC playbook.

    Lately, I often find myself humming the first verse of “I’d Love to Change the World” by Ten Years After.

    Everywhere is freaks and hairies
    Dykes and fairies, tell me where is sanity
    Tax the rich, feed the poor
    Till there are no rich no more.

    I agree that you can’t bother with the politics of your favorite bands. This is like boycotting a movie because of a particular actor’s politics — you’d end up foregoing ALL movies altogether. There’s just no way that you could limit yourself only to movies made (and acted) by conservatives — there aren’t any. Likewise, why worry about the retarded leftist politics of, say, CSNY - Suite: Judy Blue Eyes is still an awesome song.

    There’s just no denying it: Hippies make the best music.

  52. Eyas Comment by Eyas UNITED STATES

    Some cheeseball had to do it; & I’m that cheeseball:

    When they tear them from my cold, dead shoulders!

  53. Eyas Comment by Eyas UNITED STATES

    actually, this one’s better

  54. LC madtom : Main Propulsion Assistant Comment by LC madtom : Main Propulsion Assistant UNITED STATES

    Maybe, just maybe, them powdered wig guys were asserting that our ‘right’ (not scare quotes) to keep and bear arms was based on the fact that we did. And as long as we do, bearing affirms our right to keep them.

    Whoa. Scary to the GFW’s for that exact reason. We keep ‘em, They fear them. Ergo, they fear us.

    Works fer me.

  55. Eyas Comment by Eyas UNITED STATES

    Sorta off-topic, sorta on-topic; but the degree of hypocrisy in this story is unbelievable - had to post it:

    Hell, just read the headline:

    Influx of black renters raises tension in Bay Area
    Dec 30
    By PAUL ELIAS

    ANTIOCH, Calif. (AP) - As more and more black renters began moving into this mostly white San Francisco Bay Area suburb a few years ago, neighbors started complaining about loud parties, mean pit bulls, blaring car radios, prostitution, drug dealing and muggings of schoolchildren.

    In 2006, as the influx reached its peak, the police department formed a special crime-fighting unit to deal with the complaints, and authorities began cracking down on tenants in federally subsidized housing.

    Now that police unit is the focus of lawsuits by black families who allege the city of 100,000 is orchestrating a campaign to drive them out.

    the rest of the article here: http://apnews.myway......896O0.html

    At first I figured that they must be talking about some other “Bay Area”; but, no. The Libs in San Fran are upset about too many of those damned blacks moving into their neighborhood.

  56. Unregistered Comment by mighty aphrodite

    Isn’t the terrible increase in “black on black” crime a sign of systemic racism??? :em96: Oooops……that argument won’t work.

  57. Kenashimame Comment by Kenashimame UNITED STATES

    mighty aphrodite sez:

    Isn’t the terrible increase in “black on black” crime a sign of systemic racism??? Oooops……that argument won’t work.

    Of course it does:

    “Teh Man” forces the poor blacks into ghettos, then cuts them off from any economic opportunity forcing them to prey on one another.

    See “black on black” is totally because of racism.

    Please excuse me, I need a lot of vodka after forcing my brain that far to the left.

  58. Jon the Imperial Hunter Comment by Jon the Imperial Hunter

    All other aspects of this topic having been so well covered, I’ll simply repeat…

    Molon Labe!

    Their end game is impossible. There are not enough thugs to disarm 30 or 40 million Americans if even 10% of us are unwilling to be disarmed.

    Molon Labe!

    Oh, and uh, ICD? Your pretense to expertise in historical analysis is exceeded only by your willingness to select and color the facts to fit your agenda… and your lack of credibility, and relevance, and significance and….

    You come by these traits ‘honestly’ though… it’s how you’ve been trained by the example of those you follow.

    Wise up. Or fuck off and die. Those really are your only choices.

  59. LC AnnieMcPhee Comment by LC AnnieMcPhee UNITED STATES

    What kenashimame said, plus a little something: it’s also because of “internalized racism” which is something like that old saw that if someone tells you you suck you’ll start to believe it and become a drunk or something. So yes it is whites’ fault. See also “internalized misogyny” which means that when women do horrible shit to other women or to children it’s men’s fault. And when they kill men it’s also men’s fault. Same principle.

  60. LC AnnieMcPhee Comment by LC AnnieMcPhee UNITED STATES

    Er: the views above are not my own but the unfortunate result of too much reading of feminist/leftist material.

  61. Deathknyte Comment by Deathknyte UNITED STATES

    Now that police unit is the focus of lawsuits by black families who allege the city of 100,000 is orchestrating a campaign to drive them out.

    Ya Think?!

    The lefties only approve of blacks moving into areas where they don’t live. Unless they are rich blacks, or know their place in society.

  62. Skul Comment by Skul UNITED STATES

    I’m sure as hell not the brightest flame in the candlabra, but, I sure as hell know WHY the second is there. :em96:

  63. LC AnnieMcPhee Comment by LC AnnieMcPhee UNITED STATES

    Or they could, you know, just try to do away with the federally funded housing in the area.

  64. LCBrendan Comment by LCBrendan AUSTRALIA

    No one noticed my little note? He wont be able to argue with someone who is telling him the cold hard facts from a country that did as he suggested….

  65. LC cmblake6, Imperial Black Ops Technician Comment by LC cmblake6, Imperial Black Ops Technician UNITED STATES

    Indeed Brendan, I noticed. Your statement, however, is so inarguable as to be blatant. He can’t. It is brilliant.

  66. LC cmblake6, Imperial Black Ops Technician Comment by LC cmblake6, Imperial Black Ops Technician UNITED STATES

    LCBrendan @ 42: for anyone else who may not have. Pure, cold, hard fact.

  67. LC Darth Scoundrel, Dark Lord of the Refuge Comment by LC Darth Scoundrel, Dark Lord of the Refuge UNITED STATES

    The war was over free trade and British impressment of American seamen to serve on their naval vessels. The Brits actually preferred American seamen over their own, because they considered them more independant minded and “better stock” than the native sailors they pressed into service from the dregs of English society.

    Also, by 1812 (when, as ICD stated, we declared war and thus picked the fight) the Brits had the time to kick us around the continent for a while since the first round of Nepolionic troubles were pretty much over. They had pretty much ended the impressment practices by then, but we were still plenty steamed about it.

    And we did get kicked around, pretty much everywhere except on the high seas where it was British policy never to engage an American vessel unless they had the numerical advantage of at least 2 to 1. That’s when USS Constitution got it’s “Old Ironsides” sobriquet. Our Navy built themselves a pretty good reputation on the high seas. On the Great Lakes, not so much.

    Eventually what we got out of the deal was recognition by the Brits in exchange for us giving up all aspirations to Canada (who made it pretty clear that they didn’t want to join us anyway) and the realization that we really needed a professional standing Army after all (it was pretty embarassing to have the Brits enjoy the dinner that Dolly Madison had laid out).

    After the war, a young Army officer by the name of Winfred Scott went on a world tour to see all that there was to see in the way of military technology and tactics, and then he came home and earned the name “Fuss and Feathers” as he shaped up our Army.

    Yes, that’s pretty basic, and yes, there’s a lot more to that story Paul Harvey. But, as much as it may hurt to admit it, ICD had the basic story right. Give credit where it’s due.

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  69. LC Aggie Sith Comment by LC Aggie Sith UNITED STATES

    LCBrendan @64:

    No one noticed my little note?

    NOTICED???

    I copied that, and e-mailed it to ALL my friends, even the anti-gun nuts…..Here’s hoping it goes viral! :em03:

  70. LC & IB RightWingRocker Comment by LC & IB RightWingRocker

    Best use of guns:

    Scaring the GFWs …

    All too easy!

    RWR
    http://www.rightwingrocker.com

  71. LC Wil Comment by LC Wil UNITED STATES

    Mrs M:

    Not to put too fine a point on it, but since when the hell does a GFW ever have to PROVE he is a fool?

    And when this idiot or his friends come to pick up my guns, all they will get is some seriously warm metal, a stack of empty cartidge cases, and a world of hurt. By the time thay actually get to the guns, I will be well beyond caring about the concerns of mortals and their foolishness.

    Meanwhile, GFWs may feel as free as their conscience dictates to preemptively surrender.

    —————————

    On a related note, if two young drug dealers elect to commit mutual suicide on the streets of Detroit (or Chicago, D.C., Atlanta, et. al.), this is my concern, er, how, prithee?

    —————————

    Comes the revolution, Friends. Buy ammo.

  72. LC Ogrrre, Imperial Grouch Comment by LC Ogrrre, Imperial Grouch UNITED STATES

    I know Liberals in general, and GFWs in particular, don’t like facts, but here are a few facts:
    Washington DC had the most restrictive gun laws in the nation until the Heller decision overturned their laws. DC’s population peaked in 1968 at 809,000. Since then it has been in steady decline. In 2005, the DC population was down to 550,521.
    The last year for which I have crime statistics for DC is 2005. In that year, there were 195 murders (35.4/100,000), 166 forcible rapes (30.2/100,000), 3700 robberies (672.1/100,000), 3971 agravated assaults (721.3/100,000), and 3577 burglaries (649.7/100,000). Yessiree, getting rid of guns will cause the crime rate to drop.
    The peak year for murder in DC was 1991 with 482 murders (80.6/100,000). For rape the peak year was 1969 with 776 rapes (97.2/100,000)
    Contrast the pattern of Washington, DC with that of Kennesaw, GA. In 1982, Kennesaw passed a law that every household would be required to have at least one working firearm in the house. In 1981 (pre-gun law) the population of Kennesaw was 5242. By 2002, their population had grown to 22664.
    In 1981 there were 54 (1026/100,000) burglaries in Kennesaw. One year later, after the ordinance was enacted, there were 35 (665/100,000) burglaries. And, in 2002, after their population had grown over four fold from just before the gun legislation was enacted, there were 60 burglaries, which comes out to 264/100,000.
    I leave the research on numbers for murder, rape, agravated assault, etc., as an exercise for the factually challenged Libtrolls. It might do you some good.
    Would you anti-gunners care to explain to me again just how we are safer with fewer guns in the hands of law abiding citizens? Hmmmm? I’m waiting.

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  74. Unregistered Comment by LC Curmudgeon Imperial Bard UNITED STATES

    Knocked off of Red Roses For aBlue Lady

    I bought a black rifle on the black market
    With a dozen extra magazines
    I showed it to a liberal goob the other day
    Who blasted :em72: down both legs of his jeeeeeeeenz :em93:

  75. LC Aggie Sith Comment by LC Aggie Sith UNITED STATES

    LC Ogrrre, Imperial Grouch @71:

    Would you anti-gunners care to explain to me again just how we are safer with fewer guns in the hands of law abiding citizens? Hmmmm? I’m waiting.

    You have a better chance at bagging Anjelina Jolie, than getting a legitimate answer from any anti-gun nutjob.

  76. LC HJ Caveman82952 Comment by LC HJ Caveman82952

    Who blasted down both legs of his jeeeeeeeenz

    Did he clean up after himself? What I find amusing about these GFW’s is the idea that somehow a military looking weapon is more deadly, by its appearance, than your average western looking type rifle. A friend showed up to see my new .357 revolver. And yes, it is a big, impressive looking gun. But when I showed him one of my .45 semi-automatics, he got paranoid. I just looked at him, checking the gun status, removing the magazine, racking the slide, twice, handing it to him. “Either one of these, at this range, would send you to the promised land, both are running hollow points, appearance makes nooooo difference. Both have inherent advantages, you are just not familar with the semi-auto. That’s all. It can’t hurt you if you don’t point it at yourself or say, drop it on your foot.”
    In time I think he grew fascinated by it….yeah, I’m working on my fourth convert, although this one may not count, he already owns a twenty-two rifle. And at least he didn’t shit on the floor………

  77. LC HJ Caveman82952 Comment by LC HJ Caveman82952

    I forgot to thank you, Brendan. I poached your letter, as usual for you, excellent. It went out to everyone on my mailing list. Along with a personal note saying, myself being half Aussie, on my mothers side, that I do not appreciate what has been to a land I hold dear.

  78. LC SkyeChild G.L.O.R., Imperial Grammar Hun Comment by LC SkyeChild G.L.O.R., Imperial Grammar Hun UNITED STATES

    Eyas @ 55:
    And how many of those Bay libs voted for the Magic Negro? They wanted “change”; they got it.

  79. LCBrendan Comment by LCBrendan AUSTRALIA

    Caveman et al….you are welcome.:)

  80. LC AnnieMcPhee Comment by LC AnnieMcPhee UNITED STATES

    LC SkyeChild G.L.O.R., Imperial Grammar Hun sez:

    Eyas @ 55:
    And how many of those Bay libs voted for the Magic Negro? They wanted “change”; they got it.

    You do know that today in particular The Magic Negro meme is ALL OVER the leftist blogs right? Hehe. They aren’t even blaming Rush anymore (their tiny little idiot attention spans can’t take the shifts) - they’re blaming the guy who sent out the tape. None of them seems to have any clue that it was a parody based on a leftist columnist who was the first to refer to it. In fact, he was denouncing it, but that makes no difference; the thing was dumb, it was begging for a parody, and a parody it got. So since it got parodied, you’re:

    RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAACIST!!!

    Hehe. HAPPY NEW YEAR ALL!

  81. LCgahayz Comment by LCgahayz UNITED STATES

    Fugg dhis schidt.

    It’s NEW YEARS EVE!

    Happy New Year, everyone!!!!!!

    Let’s keep this thread going, as a New Year’s chat!!! Not to worry about Bacchus B-logging,
    as Deej said, come midnight, it all goes away!!!!! YaaaaaaHoooooooo!!!!!1

  82. LC AnnieMcPhee Comment by LC AnnieMcPhee UNITED STATES

    Wait a minute: Bacchus blogging?

    Does that mean I can post crazy shit because I’m drunk?

    WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOT fuckety WHOOOOOOOOOOT!

  83. LC AnnieMcPhee Comment by LC AnnieMcPhee UNITED STATES

    MISCHA - OPEN THE CHAT ALREADY!!!!!

  84. LC Aggie Sith Comment by LC Aggie Sith UNITED STATES

    Damn, y’all are drunk already??

    And here I have to wait until the kiddies are abed, after midnight….Sniff….

    Still, I am sure some of y’all will post some good stuff to read….and decypher ;)

    :em01:

  85. LC AnnieMcPhee Comment by LC AnnieMcPhee UNITED STATES

    Well we STILL might post something good despite the lateness of the hour or drunkenness.

    I’m told that my drunken rants far surpass the STRAIGHT rants of many leftist thinkers. Which says that either they are insane or I am BRILLIANT.

    Which do you prefer?

  86. jaybear, Colonel of Imperial Ancient Artillery Comment by jaybear, Colonel of Imperial Ancient Artillery UNITED STATES

    LC AnnieMcPhee sez:

    I’m told that my drunken rants far surpass the STRAIGHT rants of many leftist thinkers. Which says that either they are insane or I am BRILLIANT.

    Which do you prefer?

    Either……regardless of your state, your posts STILL make far more sense than any leftist idiot’s.

    and as one of the resident non-drinkers here at the Rott, I wish you all a very happy new year….Remember, that headache that you wake up tomorrow with will be in direct proportion to the amount of fun you have tonight. :em69: :em93:

    :em41: :em41: :em98: :em98: :em98: :em38: :em38: :em72: :em72: :em72:

    Happy New Year y’all

  87. LCgahayz Comment by LCgahayz UNITED STATES

    LC Aggie Sith @ 84:
    No, honi, but we’re workin’ on it! With some sour-cherry wine, gifted by a friend, what
    growed the cherries, and another made the wine.
    ‘Aint friends wonnnnerrrfulll? *hic*